The Gefell proves here why it is a legend. It’s absolute magic here!
@ClassicalGuitarTones
22 күн бұрын
Lovely mic for sure!
@AmyKSpreadborough
3 жыл бұрын
Wow, the Gefell sounds really lovely and present. I feel transported into the room. Very nice comparison... and that instrumental piece is really gorgeous. Thank you.
@ClassicalGuitarTones
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the thoughtful comment, Amy. I appreciate it. The Gefell has a very juicy sound indeed.
@SantoMachismo
3 ай бұрын
Beautiful guitar playing! Could listen to it for an hour!
@ClassicalGuitarTones
22 күн бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@EcstaticSuffering
Жыл бұрын
Wow, I watched this assuming the neumann was first, because it comes first in the title. I much preferred Mic A in this setting. I was surprised when I realized it was the Gefell.... I think I need one!
@ClassicalGuitarTones
Жыл бұрын
Gefell truly makes outstanding microphones! The only problem is that you can't just have one. ;)
@ManicMaximus
2 жыл бұрын
Wow wonderful demo, thank you. Since I can get 2 Gefells for the price of 1 Neumann, I know what I would pick!
@ClassicalGuitarTones
2 жыл бұрын
You can't go wrong with Gefell; the UMT70s is a wonderful mic, and a pair of them is magic.
@marcgib2000
Жыл бұрын
pour ajouter encore une chose, je dirais que le Neumann semble récupérer plus d'informations que le Geffel, et est moins étriqué que le Geffel. C'est un avis très personnel et une écoute d'autant plus attentive que je suis moi-même guitariste et ai essayé plusieurs micros déjà pour m'enregistrer et n'en ai retenu que trois à ce jour. Le meilleur résultat de mon côté je l'ai avec des micros à ruban, des RM-6 de chez Bumblebee (artur fisher). C'est là que j'entends le plus le naturel de mon instrument. alors que je dispose aussi d'un DPA 4011-TL de très haute qualité. Peut être il donnerait de meilleurs résultats si j'utilisais un magnétophone analogique. C'est peut être grâce aux enregistrements numériques, plus "stridents" et avec un e qualité dynamique particuliere que les micros à rubans sonnent d'autant mieux. Ils ont le vent en poupe en tout cas, ils se vendent très bien. système d'écoute ; pionneer + enceintes 4 ohms hifisound , Systeme simple mais plutôt agréable. ou casque beyerdynamic dt 770
@simoncoyle1616
3 жыл бұрын
I have to say I prefer the TLM 170, by a slender margin. The extended bass and soundboard articulation make a very realistic and compelling argument! Trebles and mid strings have a clear, bell like tone. The UMT70S absolutely holds it's own too. Both great sounding mics and beautiful playing! Out of curiosity, was it the red or purple badge 170?
@ClassicalGuitarTones
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Simon! Excellent description! This is the red badge TLM170.
@marcgib2000
Жыл бұрын
yes. The tlm is meilleur.
@TheChadPad
3 жыл бұрын
I liked the Gefell better. Still, both lovely sounding. Maybe a warmer bottom end with the Neumann, tiny bit, but here, the top end presence is very pleasing with the Gefell
@ClassicalGuitarTones
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. That M7 capsule on the Gefell is a lovely, creamy sounding capsule!
@vincenteoppolo9025
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing demo.... with the Gefell it sounds like I am a room / hall listening to you play..crystal clear reproduction....the Neumann (as expected) places the guitar more forward & wraps it in warmth..leaving less room ambience. I would chose the Gefell ...actually I have !
@ClassicalGuitarTones
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Vincent! That's an excellent description of the two microphones' characteristics!
@SantoMachismo
3 ай бұрын
That's an excellent description indeed! Points oit exactly why I chose the TLM 170 to be my definitve VO mic: Focus on the source, wrap it in warmth. But it's always super clear and defined.
@D.Uwins777-music
6 ай бұрын
The Gefell sounds excellent.
@ClassicalGuitarTones
6 ай бұрын
Such an elegant sounding mic.
@2tallB
3 жыл бұрын
Well, the Gefell definitely has more high end with more scooped mids, but it works well with this guitar and setting. I have a TLM170 so I'm a little surprised at the darkness here, but I just think of it as a great all-around mic for the price.
@ClassicalGuitarTones
3 жыл бұрын
The Neumann TLM 170 (and 193) is a great sounding mic with a very natural and un-hyped response, I really like mine and I don't plant to part with them any time soon; the Gefell definitely sounds creamier. Thanks for the comment!
@voiceaddict
2 жыл бұрын
I've been around far too many classical guitarists, I'm not accustomed to hearing the darker veil of the TLM170 in person 3 feet away. But I've also been in a studio long enough to know a good EQ can get you there, especially with a mic that takes eq well and starts off flat. But if I'm going to be doing that with every track, I'd just by a pair of UMT70s and call it a day - which is exactly what I did. Beautiful recordings....
@ClassicalGuitarTones
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Kevin. Beautifully written!
@csabarikk9525
3 жыл бұрын
another great video!
@ClassicalGuitarTones
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ToddWhirley
3 жыл бұрын
The Gefell takes this one in my opinion. Sounds very nice
@ClassicalGuitarTones
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Todd. The Gefell sounds lovely indeed. Care to share what is your listening setup?
@ToddWhirley
3 жыл бұрын
@@ClassicalGuitarTones I watched on my laptop with a pair of Senal SMH-1000 headphones. Not the most expensive headphones out there but fantastic for the money.
@WilliamJohnston
3 жыл бұрын
Another great comparison! Small typo though - it says in the description TLM 170 OC818...
@ClassicalGuitarTones
3 жыл бұрын
That's right, it's fixed now! Thank you, William.
@user-yb8hk1xv6x
2 жыл бұрын
geppel sounds more detailed, dynamic, and lively for me and tlm 170 seems to limit the loudness or dynamic but still imo the The sound quality is not much different. If I could hear the sound of that guitar in the room myself or another test something like vocal and piano, I might conclude with certainty which one is better.
@ClassicalGuitarTones
2 жыл бұрын
It's hard sometimes to understand the subtle differences if you don't personally how the guitar sounds in the room. I hope that with all the different recordings and all those mics on the channel, people will have a more complete picture. About the two microphones, I think that you hear their differences very well. The Gefell captures more information about the strings, wood, the fingers, the room, etc. The Neumann focuses on what is important. I don't think that there is a better or worst microphone here, just two antithetical perspectives.
@user-yb8hk1xv6x
2 жыл бұрын
@@ClassicalGuitarTones yes two antithetical perspectives I'm really grateful for this valuable video thx
@teashea1
2 жыл бұрын
very well done
@ClassicalGuitarTones
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@willfest
16 күн бұрын
I must say, it is very tough to pick a winner here. I feel like I chose the opposite mic a couple years ago.. now I am leaning the other way. I don't want to tell which one I am picking. I am concerned my speakers are somehow affecting the winner!!! is it possible one set of speakers makes one better and a different set makes the other one better????
@MxxRie
3 жыл бұрын
Amazing that you can almost get two gefells umt70s for one tlm170.
@ClassicalGuitarTones
3 жыл бұрын
The Gefell's are pretty spectacular!
@alexisrudnik563
3 жыл бұрын
I like to hear the gefell in voices... What do you think about it?
@ClassicalGuitarTones
2 жыл бұрын
Depends on a voice, but generally it has a classic character thats hard to beat!
@danieljohnson5861
2 жыл бұрын
An appropriate comparison would be a UMT 70 against an M149 and a TLM170 against an AKG C414 XLS.
@ClassicalGuitarTones
2 жыл бұрын
If you never compare a UMT70 (or other classic Neumann mic) with a TLM 170 (or other cleaner sounding mic), how would you appreciate their differences?
@danieljohnson5861
2 жыл бұрын
@@ClassicalGuitarTones Ahh, ok. I'll give you that. I stand corrected. I'm so used to people doing direct comparisons to say, a TLM103 to a U87, or a TLM49 to a U47...your comparison didn't make sense at first. This proves how much KZitem is click bait. So much so, this went way over my head as I've now been "conditioned." My apologies. Truth be told though, the TLM170 becomes more and more valuable as time goes on with advances in DSP. Outside of Schoeps Colette, no mics on the market today are more linear. I would advise anyone getting into recording to save up for one. Especially as supply chain/import issues are sure to become worse.
@marcgib2000
Жыл бұрын
les deux micros s'en sortent bien, alors qu'une guitare classique n'est jamais simple à bien enregistrer. toutefois il y a plus de boisé et plus de naturel ave cle TLM 170, sa courbe de réponse particuliere explique probablement cela en plus de sa qualité globale excellente. Il est à l'opposé du U87 qui lui relève dans le médium alors que le tlm les atténue. ce qui empèche une surbrillance du registre médium aigu souvent présents avec ce type de guitare. Ma préférence va nettement au tlm donc. d'ailleurs j'ai remis en vente mon dpa 4011 tl pour me payer un tlm 170 d'occasion.
@tyremanguitars
3 жыл бұрын
really like the gefell, which also sounds like it has more 'colour' to the sound, not just brighter but more character, the tlm170 is very warm but maybe a bit boring.
@ClassicalGuitarTones
3 жыл бұрын
That Gefell is a lovely microphone indeed, creamy sounding! Thanks for the comment.
@danieljohnson5861
2 жыл бұрын
This comparison is absurd. The capsules in these mics couldn’t be more different. Why do an apples and oranges comparison?
@ClassicalGuitarTones
2 жыл бұрын
Both are high-end German-made microphones and both can effectively capture acoustic instruments, putting them side by side illustrates their differences and allows you to understand and appreciate their distinct characteristics.
@veronatragedy7016
Жыл бұрын
@@ClassicalGuitarTones I'm glad you compared apples to oranges! Hearing this audio comparison really helped me know which mic to buy!
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