Getting to the point where bikes ought to be marketed as “free” pending purchase of accessories.
@user-sw2lv3zp6o
3 жыл бұрын
Looks okay and is good value. I have no need for excessive electronics.
@brianharradine8130
3 жыл бұрын
Looks better than F750GS but a real world comparison test of the 750GS and 850 Tiger would be worthwhile
@robbikebob
3 жыл бұрын
I like it. The colours are good and it's got lots of nice features without the bells and whistles that some people simply aren't bothered about. Softer tunes are better and more relaxing on bikes made for touring. Thumbs up from me. And if you don't like this model then at least you get the choice of the 900. Rather several models than one 'like it or lump it' option. As for optional extras, folk like me, who wouldn't buy options would be able to get a cheaper bike. Others can add exactly what they want. I can't see much of a problem.
@victorong6205
3 жыл бұрын
The Graphite and red really does look stunning!😍
@johnward3490
3 жыл бұрын
Can’t see the point of it to be honest. How many versions of the same bike do you need. Where’s the replacement for the 1050 tiger sport ?
@user-sw2lv3zp6o
3 жыл бұрын
It's 3,500 GBP cheaper.
@TheAlien1970
3 жыл бұрын
@@user-sw2lv3zp6o only 200 GBP cheaper than the base 900 it replaces. For a loss of 10hp/5nm torque, I would expect a more substantial price cut.
@petersabou
3 жыл бұрын
Was hoping to see an 850 version of the 1050 Sport with upgraded street styling. This is a detuned Tiger 900 with scrambler tires and a price way out of reach for new riders. Swing and a miss.
@simondavis741
3 жыл бұрын
@@petersabou I agree. Missed opportunity in my opinion. And do new riders really buy a 900 class bike and have it restricted? Can’t be that many. Seems like a cynical ploy by Triumph to direct potential customers towards the higher spec (more profitable) models.
@GURUKHAN_OG
2 жыл бұрын
You are forgetting the ₹$€£ difference!
@jimgordon3468
3 жыл бұрын
Listen. Tell triumph to make a 650 adventure bike. Price point. 6 to 7 grand max. Give it the 675 motor. That would be a fantastic beginner bike. Ps. I have a tiger 1200 explorer . Fully loaded. Best bike ever. For my fun bike I have a KLR650. 300lbs of sheer do all enjoyment.
@wrxguyusa
3 жыл бұрын
Quite likely that the new Trident 660 motor will find its way into an ADV.
@davidphilion1432
3 жыл бұрын
I bought the 2021 tiger 850 and love it. I'm all about getting on a bike and riding . All of the extras are great but I don't miss something I don't have. Just get on your bike and have fun.
@georgeblumenthal7938
3 жыл бұрын
I rode the BMW 750 GS, loved it except the seat was painful. I owned an R1250RT and had to immediately buy an expensive aftermarket. I previously rode a Tiger 800 and loved it. Stock seat was great. I would probably lean Triumph for tripple engine and comfort.
@saddle8bag
3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy they painted the subframe black. I hate that the other ones that look like they bolted a ladder on back. New colors are cool too. The marketing is crap though. It sounds like this one actually makes a little more power over a shrunken rpm range. They must be thinking that cutting the revs by a grand up top spares the valve train wear as maintenance has increased to 10k mile intervals. Anyway, more power at lower rpms is actually less mangable. The old bike is likely more manageable i.e. less powerful at normal operating conditions. The original only gets more powerful near the peak of its powerband. Personally, on road bikes, I prefer the meat in the middle of the rpm range where I tend to do the vast majority of my riding. I also like that it doesn't come with all the expensive whiz bang gadgetry that I have no use for and no desire to pay for. I'm a fan.
@trekkydelirium-vroom5821
3 жыл бұрын
Beetween a Tiger 850 Sport 2021 & a BMW 750 GS 2021 for similar price, no doubt i would buy the Tiger 850 Sport. But i am already very happy after 7000 km with my Tiger 900 GT 2020. Im not sure about “Sport” name, i think it would have been more appropriate to call it Tiger 850 STR (for Street). Good marketing strategy from Triumph to try to make their base version of the Tiger 900 more attractive. Better stock tires on the 850 Sport (Michelin Anakee Adventure) compare to the stock tires of the GT & GT Pro (Metzeler Tourance Next).
@guywolff
3 жыл бұрын
Great news . Talking to one dealer in the know about Triumph in the USA he said there were just a handful of base model Tigers brought into the USA this year .He may have said 6 but I can't remember at this point ...Triumph USA is not interested in the lower proffit margin market I am guessing . I am hoping the 850 Sport is given a chance over here at any rate .. With the GT starting at $14,300.00 and the bace not even offered (originally online here at $12500.00 ) $2K is nothing to sneeze at ... No matter what I would still personally add a center stand ,skid plate and heated grips so maybe the GT :)
@NtGism
3 жыл бұрын
Totally disappointed with what I saw. Basically a Tiger 900 at 200 GBP less but with 10ps missing. Ridiculous of Triumph to even try that move
@fs5866
3 жыл бұрын
The Triumph CEO must have had a brain stroke when he approved this bike
@disco41
3 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always nice bike but to be honest I’m a little disappointed, was hoping for a new 1050 tiger sport variant, I’d forgot BMW did the same with the 750 &850 gs👍
@johnfitzsimons3198
3 жыл бұрын
have to agree, doesn’t look anything near as sporty as the current 1050 Sport either (which i’ve got).....still looks like an adventure bike or a variant of the 900🤔strange addition to the range!
@khurshidhere
3 жыл бұрын
BMW replaced the same with F900xr
@B1ueStryk3r
3 жыл бұрын
Why buy this when you can get a used Tiger 900. What is the point of this bike? A2 license? Yamaha tracer 7 got that market cornered. I wouldnt be suprise to see sale stopped within a year.
@paulharrison8155
3 жыл бұрын
Yep, in the same way they've dropped the base Tiger 900 in less than a year from launch
@TK_100
3 жыл бұрын
I’d take a tracer 7 here in the US
@Akephalos204
3 жыл бұрын
Is 9000 and less debatable electronics
@stephenfleming7056
3 жыл бұрын
Or a "full Power" S Version, it's just a re-map that could be done on unsold stock.
@thedawapenjor
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it would have worked better if they made like a street triple with more off road tuning and specs. Like a more off-road street triple instead of a more on road tiger.
@tomdaniels4119
3 жыл бұрын
Should sell a few more than the 900 Base model! Better Colour Options (Always love Caspian Blue) and Better Price. And 10,000 mile service intervals! Much better than the 6,000 of the GT & Rally Models
@davidg1230
3 жыл бұрын
If only they had announced this a month ago! I would have certai ly considered this. I was pushed the standard base Tiger when I got my GS but it was too sparten and Triumph were reluctant to make any, hence I went for the BMW. Looks like a great bike and at a much better price point
@jeremythomas6980
3 жыл бұрын
Great move by Triumph, a back to basic's bike good quality at a reasonable price and probably more than powerful enough for all you bike park hero's who are not quite as fast and skillful as you would have the rest of us believe ! Keep dreaming boys
@tubejorrit
3 жыл бұрын
Not really a sport, should have had 17inch wheels with a 180 rear section. This way they could have taken on the Tracer 9 GT.
@IanTed
2 жыл бұрын
Can’t see the point unless you are allergic to electronics, better colour scheme than the 900s though, only thing wrong with the 900s are the plain colours mixed with a silver subframe.
@love4boost
3 жыл бұрын
It depends. I love the Tiger 900 no matter what. But I remember there was a reason I preferred the GT model. Maybe there was an option it offered last year that the base model didn’t. I’d have to put them side by side. The power drop doesn’t matter to me. It’s still faster than my Harley lol
@jimclements3190
3 жыл бұрын
Think I will trade my 94 mk 1 Speed Triple for the nicest 1050 sport I can find and run it alongside my 1050 Speed Triple👍
@chazlyle41
3 жыл бұрын
If I'm reading their website correctly the low setting for the adjustable seat (how is an adjustable seat and handlebars not on every motorcycle over 4 digits?) is only 31.88" tall, and THEN there's a 20mm lower seat, which I assume would make the low seat height only 31.1" tall. That alone will draw a lot of beginner and intermediate riders who don't feel quite confident yet without feet on the ground. On top of that the ability to raise it back up quickly and easily as they improve or need to. Very nice. Only downside . . . this should have come with Cruise Control standard (and a less weird display for rpm). I may grab one eventually. Great looking bike :D
@alexbowey2760
3 жыл бұрын
Hope Triumph make a adventure Trident, would buy one of those, these bikes look a tad tall.
@user-ck1me4dl9v
3 жыл бұрын
Omit the colors and you will see the ghost of the Tenere - everybody wants a piece of the pie lol
@karlosh9286
3 жыл бұрын
Triumph keep on promising the My connectivity stuff for the current Speed Triple RS. Not yet available. I could be interested if it was available !
@hakankillberg6043
3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks. This is not a new bike just a tuned down bike to fit a new/different market, dont get this at all. Still wating for a real sporttourer like the 1050. But everytime the release/if a sporttourer they always go upp in cc to match the competitors and then you suddenly have a super charged (almost) machine thats to pricy to buy and insurance. So who wants that. Go instead for a good stable sporttourer that handles well in weight and loadcapacity without to much electronic specs to reduce the price. Just have to wait for that day. Meanwhile what happends to the 900 GT Pro for 2021? Any changes? New/better colours?
@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA
3 жыл бұрын
Super cool bike, sharp looking. Capable for sure . Triumph or BMW? Hmmmmm. Love the GS! Ridden them all. Never rode a triumph adv bike. Have to try it before making a decision! Nice work !
@chrishart8548
3 жыл бұрын
I would have a F900XR over this. Not much in the price both £9k something.
@paulharrison8155
3 жыл бұрын
@@chrishart8548 And the Beemer comes with a 3 year warranty as standard
@masongoss4615
3 жыл бұрын
Seems pretty good if that’s what you need. Honestly, it seems like there are dozens of this type of bikes now? 3 models to replace the outgoing one, and another 2 models with fractionally larger engine? And that’s just Triumph! Obviously a big market but it must be close to saturation now surely?
@KondorMoto
3 жыл бұрын
So what's the difference between this and the 900 it repaces? I don't see anything other than the reduced performance obtained electronically. What am I missing?
@wolfman.7002
3 жыл бұрын
Have to admit I'm also a bit "disapointed". Would have preferred a more road orientated sports tourer with 17" wheels front and rear like the 1050 Sport. Would probably have been high up on my list for a purchase next year!
@chrisgeorge6812
3 жыл бұрын
I hope they update the 1050 sport! Perhaps use a de-tuned version of the next gen speed triple engine plus a few whizzbang electronics. Triumph need an upright road bike with more power like the BMW XR1000
@nomadicag5599
3 жыл бұрын
In Norway they sell stock 850 at 130,000 NOK and 900 GT at 160,000 NOK. To be honest for my needs 850 does all (May be add quick shifter) and spend rest of the money on luggage and protection etc. Right now that’s what I think since I am planning to buy one. Although one eye on BMW 750 GS model too ;) what you guys suggest ?
@mickleblade
3 жыл бұрын
The road version is madly as a competitor to the tracer 900
@jblue1299
3 жыл бұрын
Cruise control?
@barryhughes1612
2 жыл бұрын
Just bought one off Mike at Fowlers!
@buraqmejker
3 жыл бұрын
A bit too much bass to my ear. Maybe apply a high pass filter before you compress the audio?
@motobob
3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the advice - I use an isovox for my voiceovers as I don't have a good room for it, and it does give a boxy sound. I've already rolled off the bass quite a bit but I agree that when I listen back with headphone it needs more
@4RMS7TRONG
3 жыл бұрын
@@motobob I think he's got his bass turned up too high. As a serious audiophile your audio is spot on.
@jonnycando
3 жыл бұрын
@@motobob an RCA 77dx microphone will take care of everything
@motobob
3 жыл бұрын
@@jonnycando just looked... a little out of budget! I'll stick with the trusty SM7B for now
@karlosh9286
3 жыл бұрын
@@jonnycando I'm sure it's a very good microphone . I could get one of cheaper 125 cc bikes brand new for that much !
@punkrockdidi
3 жыл бұрын
If I want handguards,heated grips and a tune so it makes the power of the 900 it will be more expensive than the standard 900 witch has more standard options... a bit ridiculous no?
@terrybrooks7140
3 жыл бұрын
Where's the 1050?????????
@karlosh9286
3 жыл бұрын
Ahh my bike show replacement fix ! :-D I like the red colour scheme . No surprise for me ! Calling it "Sport" seems a bit silly. Maybe "Tiger 850 S" would have been a better ( or just "Tiger 850" ) . i.e. like other bikes in Triumph's range. I get why it's had the power limited, get some A2 riders interested. For me , I really still prefer the fairing on the current Tiger Sport 1050cc, plus I prefer the 120 degree crank. All that bike needs is a new TFT and a red colour scheme. Hope they don't "T-plane" the crank on the 1050cc. I like the smoothness of the 120 degree crank.
@morrisdevereaux3248
3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't really looking for a video on specs. I can read that on the website. I was looking for rider impressions head to head. This didn't do much for me there at all.
@GURUKHAN_OG
2 жыл бұрын
This bike seems interesting.. I'm thinking of buying a lean machine like Honda CB500X. Is Tiger 850 a good alternative to Cb500x?
@surferdude642
3 жыл бұрын
It is the same weight and seat height as the 900. Problem is it offers nothing over the 900 GT for most riders as I see it. I would rather see a Street Triple R sport touring version with a suspension tuned for comfort. Kawasaki has this market to themselves currently with the nice ninja 650.
@sunilsipun9799
3 жыл бұрын
Triumph is just resorting to more bikes with same platforms and engine. Disappointed Its just a new paint scheme on tiger 900 base.
@fyorbane
3 жыл бұрын
And less power.
@martimt.8749
3 жыл бұрын
Did Triumph ever sold one single base tiger 900? I dont think so. Only GTs and Rallys
@hartwinfritz
3 жыл бұрын
Next, Review on the new 2021 Kawasaki ZX-10RR winter edition
@InfusedBiker
3 жыл бұрын
lower bhp, lower torque and still 19 inch front wheel 🤔 😐 I really can't understand their reasoning for this supposedly road touring bike. What is the point of it? Now with the updated Yamaha Tracer 9 I wouldn't be interested in this Tiger. Triumph really missed a great opportunity to be a bit more competitive!🤔🙄
@4RMS7TRONG
3 жыл бұрын
I think they're trying to target the middle range market. With more people purchasing lower cc bikes over their bigger 1000cc beasts. Manufacturers are also fighting with emissions regs. So smaller engines are going to become a common thing.
@tubejorrit
3 жыл бұрын
Indeed, I just want a tiger 900 with 17inch tires, sporty suspension and a more rush in the higher rpm's so I can race my buddies on R1's on the street.
@4RMS7TRONG
3 жыл бұрын
You need to remember this IS a 900cc bike. They just call it an 850 because its essentially detuned. Slap a cheeky remap on it and watch it fly!
@NtGism
3 жыл бұрын
@@4RMS7TRONG But it's the same engine. 888cc. It basically loses 10PS over the normal Tiger 900 for 200GBP. Why not go with the Street Triple engine and make something sportier?
@graemeshaw9716
3 жыл бұрын
Great review, thankyou👍
@nickbenfell4327
Жыл бұрын
It is not a close contest. Triumph 850 wins by a large margin against its BMW competitors.
@MrRichiban
3 жыл бұрын
I have no problem with the existence of this bike... I'm just pissed off that they called it the Tiger Sport. 1. There's nothing "Sport" about this at all. Less power, non-adjustable suspension? Plus it still _looks_ like an off-road bike with the beak and the exposed subframe. 2. They must have known there'd be a load of people waiting, hoping, pleading for an update to the existing Tiger Sport line. Using the Tiger Sport name for the basic/cheap & _detuned_ version of the Tiger 900 is just *cruel*.
@starlordnetzero9633
3 жыл бұрын
I own a 2019 Street Twin and love it. I was interested in a Tiger as a second bike but frankly there are SO many variations of the Tiger I am quite confused
@karlosh9286
3 жыл бұрын
everyone is confused by the Tiger range !
@frnchfrs
3 жыл бұрын
Any news on the modern classic front? These are also due for -at least EU5- update, aren’t they?
@savardr6
3 жыл бұрын
dont understand triumph on this one....mistake.
@jamescoles2596
3 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown of the bike. Really like how you go through everything and keep it simple (especially for people like me!). Just out of curiosity, why do you think triumph bothered with the basic tiger 900 in the first place? Was it always the plan to replace it or a change of tactic? For me i think it looks like a great option, just not sure if people might simply regard it as 'the cheaper one'. Keep up the great work!
@jetrex1986
3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a good Far East built bike.
@viktornilsson7867
3 жыл бұрын
"sport" - and that shrimp-like body posture in the ad? What?
@arshishmaneckji9547
3 жыл бұрын
Cornering ABS?
@wanshamsulwanakhbar6777
3 жыл бұрын
How the weight this Triumph 850 sports?
@richiektm
3 жыл бұрын
V2 streetfighter??
@mikesampont6091
3 жыл бұрын
Not needed.
@tonebonetones
3 жыл бұрын
Come the second hand market, people are gonna bypass this and buy the 900's. Thai rumph should have made a smaller, mid range ADV based on the Trident. These ADV bikes are way too big for 80% of riders who buybghem, imo.
@utkarshkaushik617
3 жыл бұрын
I think rather than buying this you should just extend the budget a little bit and get the 900GT you will get better equipment and buying this will just doesn't seem a better buy TBH
@Boksburg1982
3 жыл бұрын
To many electronics which most people will not use or need. Replace these with some useful accessories like engine guards rear carrier etc. Oh sorry this is Triumph and they never miss an opportunity to stick the buyers for things they will actually require.
@tokyosmash
3 жыл бұрын
Non switchable ABS... well, we know who this bike is really aimed at.
@MrRichiban
3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately that's the law now. Under Euro 5 you're not allowed to turn the ABS off.
@tokyosmash
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrRichiban so how did RE get away putting it on the Himalayan?
@youridv
3 жыл бұрын
big snore. This thing isnt new. Its a detuned budget option and you only save 200 quid.
@fs5866
3 жыл бұрын
It's nothing budget if it's only 200 cheaper wtf,it's more like a slap in the face for people that don't know what they're getting
@Franciscolj1
3 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry! But!!!! Triumph is the same as the successful country singer who goes to the entrepreneur's conversation and starts to sing Rock and Jazz to please more audiences, in my opinion, an 800 and a 1200 with good footprint and cutting edge technology would be more interesting. An 850? 900? and 1200? it was even stranger at 850 with a trimmed and reduced engine. I am of the opinion of Bruce Lee - It is better a fighter who trained a thousand times, one type of kick than a fighter who trained a thousand types of kick. Want a tip? Put all the weight of the bike as low as possible to be more maneuverable at low speed and light in curves.
@mrsilbo6499
3 жыл бұрын
Has Triumph dropped the ball? Unless you're an A2 license holder, what is the appeal of this bike? Naff paint colours too.
@remarkableflooty7476
3 жыл бұрын
Dieses Bike erschliesst sich mir nicht. Im Grunde ist es eine überarbeitete alte "Tiger 800 XR" und der Unterschied zur 900er ist zu gering. Eine "Tiger 700" auf Basis der grade erschienenen 660er Trident hätte mehr Sinn ergeben. IMO.
@abdullakhan4411
3 жыл бұрын
How does that even make sense!!! Triumph has made this motorcycle for long distance road use,and are saying customers are not looking for Bluetooth connectivity 🤣🤣🤣🤣 that is the lamest reason I have ever heard to make you spend more money on the accessory.
@czarekp3552
3 жыл бұрын
Something stinks about it. As a Triumph fanboy i'll pass
@kwk43
3 жыл бұрын
Okay it might be better than the 750 GS but the looks just dont make it for me
@fyorbane
3 жыл бұрын
Pointless model. Where's the 1050 Tiger Sport replacement? Come on Triumph. You can do better than this.
@chriscurrie5597
3 жыл бұрын
Going backwards... To many tiger models already,, and no cruise control... Could have been more brave, like they have been with the trident..
@CriticalRider
3 жыл бұрын
Your video is better than the bike itself :-)
@janot3661
3 жыл бұрын
we need new 1200 Model. Not this , what is it, MISTAKE??... !!
@gilbertbonnet7064
3 жыл бұрын
Je crois que ce n'est pas du tout l'idée que l'on se faisait d'une "850 Sport" ! J'espère que ce ne sera pas un flop !! Suis déçu !
@jasondavies6220
3 жыл бұрын
Less than 100 brake horsepower what's bikes for kids or something
@tabriz17
3 жыл бұрын
Hearing the name Tiger, the first thought was Honda
@RedRupert64
3 жыл бұрын
Off pavement!? 🤔
@hawkslayers1
3 жыл бұрын
im british and im ashamed to say triumph are trash bike british badge and made in thialand enough said build quality is worse in market
@stephenfleming7056
3 жыл бұрын
@Too Legit To Quit yes, If I want a bike built in the far east it would be Japanese made. I think the BMW engine is made in China as well. is that correct?
@Azaadia
3 жыл бұрын
Lol.. no phone connectivity, because no one wants phone connectivity at that price point? lol... thats too funny... in a world where most people in the world own a smart phone.. no one wants phone connectivity so.. every time you get a call or a message you gotta stop.. take out your phone... not to mention they should all switch to phone projected Navigation like cars.. Android Auto or something..
@paulopalma1932
3 жыл бұрын
I think the bw750GS is a better product...and more bike!
@gerryryan2302
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand this bike at all ..
@humandroid53
3 жыл бұрын
Looks nice apart from the ugly exhaust join.
@texrex4580
3 жыл бұрын
A pointless addition to the Triumph range. Nothing about this bike qualifies it to be classified as a 'Sport' model.
@echoalphatango9945
3 жыл бұрын
front good looking , when side view not good.ugly sport tiger
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