Unfortunately, the dwarf sniper will never have the high ground 😢
@Specterish
4 ай бұрын
That's going in the book.
@eresgal7802
4 ай бұрын
We gotta grudge!
@merengueatang4
4 ай бұрын
@@Specterish clearly, he underestimates your power
@Olsnapper
4 ай бұрын
laughs in *Ratling*
@paulcatindig2260
4 ай бұрын
Sad obi wan noises
@feuerklinge9004
4 ай бұрын
"...are shortly to be coming out in Killteam." SHORTLY!?!
@alessandrocastronovo9275
4 ай бұрын
“Short!!!” “NO ALLIANCE”
@stripeybag6977
4 ай бұрын
Cool, Votann Scouts. Also love how everyone brought guns or explosives but one guy was like "I'm built different." and brought a crossbow with some blue goggles. That guy's going places.
@BTTFF
4 ай бұрын
The sniper is feeling cute as well. It's a precision shotgun. ;)
@Hartwig870
4 ай бұрын
He's not going anywhere more than 4 feet high, though.
@TheCrimsonSpork
3 ай бұрын
“Don’t worry sir, I’m from the internet”
@azeria1
4 ай бұрын
Finally votann have 5 models
@drunken-master7904
4 ай бұрын
It's a 10 Dwarfs squat
@1onebegger
4 ай бұрын
Lol, Grey Knights have been around longer and have 3!
@BTTFF
4 ай бұрын
@@1onebeggerrumor is, Inquisition is being added to the GK range.
@HighEffortUsername
4 ай бұрын
They now have 51% of their army
@nonamenoname1133
4 ай бұрын
I need a nap. GW Spelling got me reading that as Yaygirls (indeed). Sweet models.
@reginlief1
4 ай бұрын
Watch them get a leader unit called a “Yasskwëen”
@stripeybag6977
4 ай бұрын
That APM Launcher reminds me of why I feel like a Heavy Super type is needed for Vehicles and Monsters.
@RJALEXANDER777
4 ай бұрын
I'm surprised we haven't gotten something like a super Ironkin yet as well. A dreadnaught/mechanicus robot equivalent would be a nice thing to have.
@modelsnstuffreveiws6628
4 ай бұрын
We have the sagitaur which is like an upgunned chimera, and a giga transport which is basically an upgunned Russ that can carry, but we have some serious holes in all parts, from super heavies to chaff
@fallensigh199
4 ай бұрын
@@RJALEXANDER777 ironkin roomba
@gregsmw
4 ай бұрын
@@modelsnstuffreveiws6628 you have a rhino and a land raider you are missing the ENTIRE non transport tank line
@dxpsumma383
4 ай бұрын
Not every faction should have access to every type of troop. I thought that was the basic principle of an asymmetric strategy game
@bradleymartinez185
4 ай бұрын
GW finally remember they exist! Hopefully they get half an army soon :)
@SnowLeopard784
4 ай бұрын
Makes more sense than the snipers on Stilts the Admech use.
@rutherfordappraisal258
4 ай бұрын
That’s a pretty low bar.
@ceerizzle9300
3 ай бұрын
Infiltrators for Votann is HUGE. These will be an auto include in every competitive list.
@hausdorffspace
4 ай бұрын
Jagers? I'll drink to that.
@bigquazz7547
3 ай бұрын
No no, these are Games Workshop brand Yaegirs (tm)
@TVs_Brent
3 ай бұрын
i'm in love with this kit, regardless of whatever the rules for it are.
@RConnickJr
4 ай бұрын
I have no idea if this would even work in the rules, but I really wish these had the ability to split up in a Sagitaur with the five foot sloggers still being able to be set up as Infiltrators.
@davylively2294
4 ай бұрын
its drip or drown, and by the emperor they are floating
@Portice92
4 ай бұрын
Gotta say, really disappointed at the disconnect between what's on the model and weapon profiles. No demo charge, no axe+crossbow, no dual wielding knives or pistols; that's 4 out of 10 models in the unit without proper profiles.
@jamesygamesy5124
4 ай бұрын
it would be cool but its so annoying when a unit has like 6 different weapons and you have to go through each one it takes forever and ruins the cool factor for me
@delilahfox3427
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, the reason I got into 40k was because I wanted a complicated game I could spend lots of time studying and learning about. 10th edition took all of that away. So, uh, 40k just kind isn't doing what I got into the game for anymore. I've pretty much just stopped buying new stuff. Maybe if 11th is actually fun, I'll play more again, but until then, I'll just play other games I prefer that are more complicated than yahtzee.
@paulshaw3907
4 ай бұрын
@@delilahfox3427 complexity is kept away from the 2 mainline games they have. It turns off a lot of the casual audience they aim for. The complexity is kept for their other games.
@lucask9651
4 ай бұрын
Tbf that's more so in kill team as it is a kill team kit we are seeing. Also i think the knife profile is pretty decent.
@rileysmith7763
4 ай бұрын
That’s a kill team specific thing. Same with the Krieg kill team. (lots of them really) Don’t forget these are technically kits made for a different game that just get condensed datacards for use in 40k.
@solidblockgaming2105
3 ай бұрын
At 80 points these are going to be a one unit auto include, there a lot of builds that will include more than one too
@Daeavorn
4 ай бұрын
Finally a new unit for Votann! When are they gonna get their second wave?? Cmon GW!
@games-wz7sz
4 ай бұрын
With their codex, like every other army that gets wave 2 does
@zandosdwarf-king
4 ай бұрын
@@games-wz7sz well, we're still waiting for kharadron wave two, and in 7 years we only received 2 heroes
@games-wz7sz
4 ай бұрын
@@zandosdwarf-king what? Khardran isn't a faction lol
@zandosdwarf-king
4 ай бұрын
kharadron overlords, dwarf pirates from aos. on release they had 3 ships, 3 units and 6 characters. 7 years later they bothered to make 2 new models only. GW hates dwarf armies
@games-wz7sz
4 ай бұрын
@@zandosdwarf-king lol that's different. That's a subtraction of dwarfs. That's like a salamanders player complaining that there are only generic new space marines
@Streygenmoment
4 ай бұрын
I hope that when the app gets updated to have this datasheet, they have a mini-errata that allows characters to join them and that it allows them to go into Sagitaurs
@ElGrompho666
4 ай бұрын
Why would you put an infiltrator unit into Sagitaurs? To split them up, have one half in the Sagitaur and one half infiltrate?
@Streygenmoment
4 ай бұрын
@@ElGrompho666 yes, so that you can have two 5 man units instead of one 10 man unit. Makes it easier to do shenanigans
@ElGrompho666
4 ай бұрын
@@Streygenmoment That being worth it really depends on how much they cost I guess. Yes, you will have one infiltrate unit, but you'll also have one basically useless unit sitting in a Sagitaur and other than infiltrate and their reactive move, they don't really have much going for them. Honestly, I just hope they're dirtcheap :)
@Streygenmoment
4 ай бұрын
@@ElGrompho666 well they could be used to run up the board for a funny melee unit. Something to tie up some enemy infantry for a turn
@Azazel-zv4fy
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the vid. Any chance of seeing Australian prices added into your videos as a regular thing? I know we're small but we're big enough for you to have Gap Games on the page, and I do use your link when I buy from there (even when its not GW stuff!)
@DJRaffa1000
4 ай бұрын
They have significantly fewer datasheet rules and output than the orc kommandos while also being less tanky (kommandos have a once per game 5+ invul) if they are anything above 100p, they are overcosted. Even at 100 It's going to be tough competition, as you can't even split them. (and the 5+ save will kill them real quick) But also I'm definitely picking up the kill team box as my friend plays gene stealers.
@CMTechnica
4 ай бұрын
At 100pt I’d reckon an equivalent comparison would be Infiltrators. If they’re not up to snuff, they should be priced like scouts
@tastefulavenger
4 ай бұрын
really barebones 10 man infil that literally have nothing unique aside from offering something the (currently unfinished) army didn't have access to. No stealth or wargear options, or fun but tricky utility buffs.
@tajj7
4 ай бұрын
@@CMTechnica Infiltrators are 5 though, these are 10, infiltrators also probably have less damage output than these guys, no special weapons (these can have 2), no fancy close combat knives, these are also T5 and marines are T4 (but also have 3+ save not 5+). Infiltrators have a better rule of course, but considering there are 10 guys and have more damage output. Same with the comparison with Marine Scouts, these guys have basically double the shots and double the melee attacks a space marine scout unit has because you have 10 guys so 65pts would be far too low, somewhere around 80-90 I think would be fine, over 100 would be too much.
@NecroGoblin-yl2fx
4 ай бұрын
if they get Rules for 40k now, we got a chance even if factions that already have a codex gets new kill team. Hoping for Tyranid Shrikes. :D
@astral_ragtime5365
4 ай бұрын
Now if only Votann could get a book 🙃
@jwebcoding7289
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, Necrons had to wait nearly a decade after their refresh to get any kind of book and they're way more popular. My guess is that Votann will get a book some time between fifteen years form now and the heat death of the universe. But first we need to hear about some doubtlessly exciting space marine antics.
@OriginalItsFly
4 ай бұрын
Love the votann range
@dominicglover9032
3 ай бұрын
The sniper would make good use of the mechanicus sniper's stilts
@Codes911
4 ай бұрын
It makes little sense but I still absolutely love the aesthetic
@Kalemvir1
4 ай бұрын
I kinda hate that the picture they use on the datasheet has 2 out of 3 models with an illegal gear setup... a bit underwhelming IMO, but at least its one unit more than we had last week
@SynthWaghhMinis
4 ай бұрын
Im just happy to have any new units
@LordOfD3stro
4 ай бұрын
For the comment of dual wielding pistols, technically there is, in the fact that when you are shooting, you either fire all of a model's long gun or pistols so its not out of the question that a model could be equipped with multiple pistols with examples being cypher and chaos marine legionary (dropping the bolt gun for a plasma pistol and astartes chainsword while keeping the bolt pistol, hence dual wielding)
@Dios.scary.Monsters
4 ай бұрын
ROCK AND STONE
@alessandrocastronovo9275
4 ай бұрын
Did I hear a ROCK AND STONE!?
@Koh-Learn
3 ай бұрын
I wonder if GW took inspiration from the "Browncoats" in Firefly (series) / Serenity (film)... I hear Captain Malcolm Reynolds whilst looking at these 😆🤣
@dylancrice9496
Ай бұрын
Looking forward to these
@SturmfaustHobbies_Games
4 ай бұрын
Might be an unpopular take - I think what would be really cool is some sort of medic character was added to the Votann, similar to the Iron-Master, but with two little medic bots. I think that would be cool. Return D3 Models to a unit it's attached to maybe?
@spicymchaggisjig1294
3 ай бұрын
I have a feeling that when the full codex drops the pre-existing plasma knives will get an AP upgrade to match this profile OR this will get nerfed...personally I'd prefer the former to the latter so that you can give Hernkyn units some good melee punch
@JackRabbit002
3 ай бұрын
I already want another Hernkyn unit similar to the Eliminator just 5 Lads & Lasses with the magna coil rifles Think they'd be cool to ship aways at Space Marines Lol I really like the missile launcher though
@markman11111
4 ай бұрын
I think the cloak makes that one model look a little too Space Marine-y, but I love the look of the rest of them!
@christerprestberg3973
4 ай бұрын
I love the models, suprised by the nasty melee, makes it pretty hard to decide between the loadouts. Too bad you can't field them in 5-man with a missile launcher per squad, would have been nice. Should be some nice synergy between them and Pioneers scrapping for midfield/early positions. Edit, not only do they have plasma knifes that have the same name and a diffrerent profile from the Pioneers, the shotguns also have the same name and different profile, Pioneers shotguns have 12 range.
@zdron07
4 ай бұрын
The main use I see is marking a small infantry unit at the start of the game so these guys blast them away turn 1 for the max cp from the detachment and then forcing your foe to divert some fire at them early when your still marching up the board and giving out a judgment token for their deaths
@NornQueenKya
4 ай бұрын
Those snipers are impossible to spot, as long as you dont look down
@nexxs4495
4 ай бұрын
the bolt shotgun is also the name same as the pioneers but it has different range
@stevenbolton1244
4 ай бұрын
My scouts absolutely wreck my pals Votaan, having them stuck in there own deployment as opposed to half the army in the mid board t1 really limits them
@jdurthu4304
3 ай бұрын
Do I understand corectly that they can replace ONLY shotgun with knifes and pistol? Does the close combat weppon stay? Looking at the text it should
@Thaif010
4 ай бұрын
Love the models in their theming and design, but the rules seem bland for what are incredibly characterful models. Imperial Navy Breachers are chock full of detailed rules to give an example. If the points are anywhere decent they will be in demand purely due to being the only infiltrating unit in a half-released faction.
@grapetonenatches186
4 ай бұрын
They reached deep into the name bucket for that one.
@frostedbutts4340
4 ай бұрын
It's fun to say out loud at least
@mk-ultraviolence1760
4 ай бұрын
Wow another unit that is half the cost that gets more damage output than Reivers, thanks GW.
@enclavecafe
4 ай бұрын
Unless they cost
@connoroneill221
3 ай бұрын
One unit will be picked auto just to move block deny scouts/infiltrators etc
@liamalbiges7748
4 ай бұрын
I think its one of those where if it were a 5 man squad youd jump at 60pts, but double it to 120pts for 10 and it feels a bit meh. 90-110 feels reasonable to me.
@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle
4 ай бұрын
I don't care about how good or bad they are I just want another usable option for votann
@ToasterNipps
4 ай бұрын
They looks really cool! Love the jackets
@Cygnus_MC
4 ай бұрын
Will these be added to the 40k app when they come out on their own?
@jeremiegartner464
4 ай бұрын
Well the scalp market for these will be strong until they have their own box
@bigdaveyeo350
3 ай бұрын
unless they can get a grmnyr to lead them to get their toughness up to 6 hopefully in the new codex otherwise they will be wiped pretty quick. still can't wait for more votann
@Tulkash01
4 ай бұрын
Nothing terribly exciting but they enable scout moves. Unfortunately, being 10 man strong I expect them to be priced above the 100pts threshold (I expect 115)
@ElGrompho666
4 ай бұрын
I mean...they are a unit. Not really what Votann need though and yeah, a 10-dwarf-infiltrator unit that's probably 100+ points (I assume they will cost more than Warriors) is a bit "meh". On the plus side, I think the models look quite cool and add a litte more desperately needed variety to the army. Ironically, with all the scout moves and now infiltrators, Votann are one of the slowest and at the same time fastest armies in the game. Anyway, hope when their codex approaches they get a big model release alongside their two or three detachments and not just stuff that's hidden behind instantly soldout Kill Team boxes :P
@woagwoag
4 ай бұрын
if they cost more than 80pts they're almost unplayable lmao - they're warm bodies that say infiltrate they do basically nothing else.
@professionaldork237
4 ай бұрын
I have to hope they are costed more towards Space Marine Scouts than they are Ork Kommandos. 80-90 points feels reasonable to me. The fixed squad size is really a big drawback for a unit that fills a desperately needed role in the larger Votann army.
@SouthWestBadger
4 ай бұрын
So gutted we don’t have the demo expert guy 😭😭😭 I will buy two packs just to build him and pretend he’s just carrying grenades
@SGashesNetwork
4 ай бұрын
All I know is that I’ll be playing Season 1 theme song of Attack on Titan every time I deploy these
@gregoryshinn9805
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video
@RAINBOWBEARMAN
11 күн бұрын
i thought these guys had a jump pack troop?
@spoonsrattling
4 ай бұрын
Honestly these guys look cool enoug to warrent t a spot
@mintw4241
4 ай бұрын
They look cool, and if they arent wildly overpriced they could be fun
@morkaili
4 ай бұрын
60-90 points is where they should end up, otherwise they are overcosted. And the comparison with Ork Kommandos is bonkers, as the Ork units has much, much more going for them, not to speak of the 5+ invul once per game.
@jefflewis8232
4 ай бұрын
I think the APM launcher is the cross-bow weapon.
@Tulkash01
4 ай бұрын
It’s the rocket launcher…
@danmiller4242
4 ай бұрын
More likely to be the bottle rocket
@BeardedWargaming
4 ай бұрын
These guys could be 300pts for hot garbage and id still be happy for the extra unit variety
@LovedandTheLover
3 ай бұрын
What point cost would people pay for this? I feel like 120 is a good price point for them
@elijahpostell6553
4 ай бұрын
Maybe they will update it when they get a new codex
@joehill6916
4 ай бұрын
Will make a cool Necromunda gang
@vodka2724
4 ай бұрын
Xenos eat ya heart out, more humans with guns in 40k! WOOO!!
@CynUnion-ji9uj
3 ай бұрын
I do not build lists to be effective, I build lists to look cool. is 40 hearthkyn warriors good? Idk but they look cool on the table. will 20 Yaegirs and 9 Pioneers be good? Probably not but it'll look cool
@benlewis2130
4 ай бұрын
Not the greatest unit but ill take anything for Votann, especially a unit to help board control which is great, however all depends on pts cost aswell.
@atlas_chief3137
4 ай бұрын
I would say 100 points same as the warriors, a little tax for that infiltrate
@PTurbo4th
4 ай бұрын
Weird that they don't get stealth... they will fall like paper if within range or even with indirect...
@Mrwarfull
4 ай бұрын
God dam it, can we get a sniper for alpha legion in 40k already;
@deathlytree434
4 ай бұрын
I love their look and gear
@PlayWii360tm
4 ай бұрын
Dark mode someday?
@thefloatingcontinent9897
4 ай бұрын
They look awesome though. So that makes them auto-include
@robiwrestler145
4 ай бұрын
makes zero sense that they dont have a 4+ save unless they are missing armour under those dusters... need to be 60 pts max.
@-RedWitch-
4 ай бұрын
Dwarves with reactive movement just same as nyds or eldar, these rules are so samy and decklisty at this point. Why not give them free ow or some extra toughness in terrain, anything at least somewhat immersive.
@davidpearson6916
4 ай бұрын
Crossing my fingers that Hearthkyn finally get a "Bolt Pistol+Plasma Knife" loadout. Or at least the original stats back for the Theyn powerfist.
@TOOTHBRUSHDUCK
4 ай бұрын
Oh yay, 5+, not that fast, and the weapons suck. Yep, it's a new LoV release! At least the APM launcher is kinda neat, even if they once again got a railgun sniper that is incapable or range and hits like a moderately stiff noodle At least we look sick if nothing else
@ronantheronin3521
4 ай бұрын
Too bad Votann snipers will only be capable of shooting people's kneecaps due to height.
@Redtecho
4 ай бұрын
I am beer.
@dabbingstickmandeltaclaw2055
4 ай бұрын
Jager
@Chawk282
4 ай бұрын
Dwarf Rangers
@leloupchris
4 ай бұрын
Sniper does not enough damage and save 5+ is too low.
@burnin8able
4 ай бұрын
The idea of an infantry shoulder fired missile launcher hitting THAT HARD is wild to me. that thing is a damn titan killer.
@osogitzgraymane72
3 ай бұрын
Almost all Sniper Rifles are really underwhelming. If they don't come as a team, they really aren't worth taking.
@Der_Iago
4 ай бұрын
10 men unit...so again no cheap option for mission play other than warriors in saggis.
@notknightbean
4 ай бұрын
Toughness 5 on them? Is gw planning to make them all t5 or did I miss something?
@whitewall2253
4 ай бұрын
The dwarves are all T5 and have been since 10th started. They're built like washing machines.
@patrickh8109
4 ай бұрын
T5 is the base toughness for Hearthkyn warriors and beserks.
@Ethilith
4 ай бұрын
Isn't that reskinned and shrunk Space Marine Eliminators? Has the design team gotten lazy?
@Damnedlegion40k
4 ай бұрын
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@BloodyArchangelus
4 ай бұрын
People who whine about LOV - you had to buy it. They flopped hard. part of it - is a Gw problem, yes, but nobody bought it As Eldar's books. One day they would make the IOM alliance and I could field them again ahah
@LoboDerPraesi84
4 ай бұрын
They need to be at least 120 points because 5 Scouts are 65 and those stupid stuntys of course have way better weapons all over the place and higher toughness. Only their save is a tad worse and they do not have a scout move.
@zandosdwarf-king
4 ай бұрын
don't sm scouts have 2 hp each?
@woagwoag
4 ай бұрын
they're literally half a scout each. they should cost damn near the same as sm scouts lmao
@leSmokySmoke
4 ай бұрын
luckily these guys will be exremely cheap for how bad they are.. :)
@KnightsofTitan
3 ай бұрын
There just reviers
@quacker2212
4 ай бұрын
First like😊
@drunken-master7904
4 ай бұрын
Disapointing Unit. Where are the jump pack dwarfs?
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