France never de-colonized , they were kicked out brutally. The Brits started decolonizations by creating autonomous dominions , like Hong Kong could self governed and could definitely be a country of its own , a fully developed democratic government and legal system on its own , while France do the opposite, from somewhat self governed colonies under colonial ministries , France created the French Union , Abolish colonial ministry, absorb the colonies into French sovereign territories directedly controlled and administered by Paris , which ultimately completely remove any chances of decolonizations or independences . in my country of Vietnam , the French packed every single things onto trucks , cargo and shipped them back to Paris, from even dirty torn out rags to broken furniture, machineries... literally anything and everything they could carry on the run after nearly a decade of brutal wars. On that note , the American war were very brutal , but the Americans at least have the honor and decency to leave everything behind when they go.
@JamesKerLindsay
4 ай бұрын
It is absolutely fascinating how the different European colonial powers handled colonialism and decolonisation. It is often said that ten French tried to make Frenchmen, while the British had no pretensions. The Belgians probably fall at the bottom of the pile, by almost any measure. When they departed the Congo in 1960 they left fewer than a dozen graduates amongst the native Congolese!
@daphuc502
4 ай бұрын
@@JamesKerLindsay I think the west, especially the Americans , need to force the hand and put pressure on the French , just like they pressured Britain to give up colonies . The greatest failure of the Americans in Vietnam -American war were not Johnson Nixon or Kennedy ,they completely failed Vietnam in 1945 when they supported , entirely funded the French war against all Vietnamese people and even participated in that war . France is not a good ally , people often forgot that for more than 4 years , Vichy France were an ally of Germany and Japan, Japan did not invade Vietnam , but were invited by axis ally Vichy France over. If the Americans and the west keep helping France , they will be the very first one to get kicked out after France just like Vietnam , and to some certain extent, the African countries recently. If the Americans could ally with the tyrannical monarchy French and Spanish empires to fight for their freedom against the constitutional bill of rights Britain , then China , Russia or any other enemies of the west 's helps would be greatly appreciated.
@michaelg3855
4 ай бұрын
As a matter of fact, British decolonization began very unwillingly when they were forced out of most of Ireland despite a resolute and brutal military effort to hold onto it. (This comment is not aimed at excusing French colonialism in any way whatsoever!)
@cmolodiets
3 ай бұрын
New Caledonia has been managed largely the british way with lot of autonomy, a traditional legal system for kanaks. Very far from the universalism that was imposed to Martinique
@kagenlim5271
3 ай бұрын
@@michaelg3855 That isn't true per se. Decolonisation was something the Brits had been doing even before ww2, just that the post ww2 kicked things into overdrive for both sides. A lot of current superstates like India and Malaysia were formed from separate colonies and combined into one as a means for making economically viable post British states
@KonradAdenauerJr
4 ай бұрын
I can't believe I've lived to see the day when Azerbaijan trolled France...
@727fara
4 ай бұрын
As an Azerbaijani, me neither
@mitchyoung93
4 ай бұрын
It's glorious, isn't it?
@vizibilibende5194
4 ай бұрын
Türkiye and Azerbaycan offically support free new caledonia and corsica +free guyana .......we are in 2024 and this terrorist(colonizer) country still have colonies in the world
@kazmuz8678
4 ай бұрын
Turkey and France often clash because of their influence in various countries. Azerbaijan is the brother and ally of Turkey, which speaks Turkish and has many agreements with Turkey. Azerbaijan is supported by Turkey and both countries dislike each other because Armenian Azerbaijani conflict.
@youknow6968
4 ай бұрын
😂
@usercoimbar
4 ай бұрын
France supported Armenia in the Karabag war between Armenia and Azerbaijan. This is why Azerbaijan has invited some people from New Caledonia government to Baku and pledged support for their independence. The riots might have ended for now, but this is not the end of it. As long as France supports Armenia, Azerbaijan and others will find a way to make life uncomfortable for France.
@JamesKerLindsay
4 ай бұрын
The recent rioting in New Caledonia has raised some interesting questions about colonialism in the 21st Century. But should we really think of the territory as a colony? France would argue otherwise. And will the recent rioting mark the start of a more sustained campaign to end French rule, especially is supported by outside forces? And is Azerbaijan really behind it all!? (Yes, you heard that right: Azerbaijan!) As always, I look forward to your thoughts and comments.
@lambda6564
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video and greetings from Germany! Since we are at the topic of island seperatism in France: Do you have plans to cover the situation of Corsica aswell? I myself really have only basic understanding of the situation, but it seems that in the last few years political forces for greater autonomy and even independence in Corsica have gained wider support on the island. Would a New Caledonia-style unrest be possible there awell or are the issues too different to compare? Another talking point when covering France is its still prevalent language chauvinism that is rejected by most EU countries and even is forbidden for countries aspiring to join the union. I'd like to hear your opinion about these topics, since they fundamentally ask how the French state views itself. Language seems to be the preferred unifier of french nationality, more so than in other countries.
@SpicyTake
4 ай бұрын
8:30 A 97% vote is always a great sign of a free democracy. 😂
@TrumpAndKamila
4 ай бұрын
Melanesian Society is very corrupt and the Chinese are able to exploit this. Older Papuans always say they regret getting independence from Australia so early (1975) if at all. Nepotism rules supreme in Melanesian society. Having a third party like a colonial power can be a good thing in these situations. If France left, the kanaks would lose their country try to china forever.
@dyawr
4 ай бұрын
@@TrumpAndKamila I fear that as well. I don't think France is the prob here... I read 25% of N Caledonia's GDP consisted of French subsidies a few years ago. If that all stops, I think poverty & inequality will rise, since the money was aimed at addressing precisely this issue...
@clashoflands
4 ай бұрын
Settler colonization is still happening to very this day. And what we are seeing is ethnic exchange
@rathersane
4 ай бұрын
Whenever a referendum’s turnout is reduced to 44% due to a boycott, the issue is _never_ put to rest.
@JamesKerLindsay
4 ай бұрын
Very good point!
@MrNukedawhales
4 ай бұрын
yeah... assuming it was the only referendum... but it wasnt. they lost the previous two... dont forget that. the boycott was the admission, that they will lose the third too. so instead of accepting defeat, they boycotted it, to muddy the water and declare the whole process that led up to the third referendum as null and void... but it isnt. two referenda with a turnout of 85+% were against independence.. doesnt that count for something, even if you ignore the third? from an objective point of view, france kept its word, the kanaks havent. they do understand that they wont get a democratic majority for independence, therefore they are trying it by force ... again.
@rathersane
4 ай бұрын
@@MrNukedawhales From an objective point of view, the issue is far from resolved, regardless of which side, if any, is in the right. One may pretend otherwise at their own peril.
@viktorreznov1548
4 ай бұрын
@@MrNukedawhalesdemocracy might as well be swapped by dictatorship if it always ends up in colonisation. What's the difference ?
@MrNukedawhales
4 ай бұрын
@@rathersane i didnt say the issue is resolved. i said that france "delivered what it promised", the kanaks are sore losers... i never said its solved.
@PoliticswithPaint
4 ай бұрын
I have to admit, Azerbaijan creating a pro-separatist organisation for a French quasi-colony was not on my geopolitical bingo list. Great video, working on one on this issue as well!
@DuckDodgersWannabe
4 ай бұрын
France has just experienced a geopolitical butterfly effect: they were friendly with Armenia, and so Azerbaijan went in and hit them where it could. I really doubt the Azeris "created" the riots, though - the tensions were already high, Azerbaijan merely poured some more gasoline on the fire. New Caledonia is a headache no matter how you look at it. Most of the Kanaks want independence, but they are only a third of the population. The European third wants to stay with France. And the last third is, I assume, split on the matter. No matter how you look at it, you can't satisfy even a good half of the island's population without angering the other. Great work as always, Professor. Summarising complex issues so well in under 15 minutes is a skill I wish I would have. Hopefully by the time I start having my first gray hairs I will possess it!
@JamesKerLindsay
4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. 🙏🏻🙂 I completely agree on all your points. The Azerbaijan angle is fascinating. I find hybrid conflicts so interesting. The ingenuity we are now seeing is quite impressive, and rather worrying. I think you’re right. It isn’t starting something. But it is exacerbating existing issues. This is right out of the hybrid threats playbook. And you’re spot on about the deadlock between the two sides and the position of the third group as the deciding factor. But it does seem that France is now playing a rather dirty game to dilute the vote in its favour. Anyway, thanks for a wonderfully analytical summary of my summary! The talent is clearly there. 😀
@ayhankaracaoglu6845
4 ай бұрын
Dont forget they made a conference in Istanbul, leaded by Azerbaijan and of course open support from Türkiye, Corsica,and New Caledonian delegates were there. Aim to disturb France, a greedy but incompetent figure that provokes, try to provoke Armenia.
@CB-ke7eq
4 ай бұрын
The island belongs to the Kanaks though. Non-natives shouldn't be allowed to vote and if independence is achieved they should be kindly asked to kick rocks.
@TheesHenning
4 ай бұрын
@@CB-ke7eq they have been living there for hundreds of years by now. They have every right to Vote and that non natives shouldnt BE able to Vote IS Just racist Policy. Imagine the outrage If you applied this Logic to europe.
@ymichel7593
4 ай бұрын
@@CB-ke7eqSure. Just like Somali and Syrian migrants in Sweden shouldn’t be allowed to vote, right?
@Present-Tense
4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, for small low-capital island nations such as this, "independence" would undoubtedly soon morph into "Chinese target".
@SiRasputin
3 ай бұрын
Funny how you label pacific nations "Chinese targets". All pacific nations want to trade with China. We've come to the point where normal trade and investing relations with China are demonised. And here you even hint at maintaining colonial rule because independence would mean trade and investment with the region's biggest economy. Double standards to the core
@Present-Tense
3 ай бұрын
@SiRasputin "All"? More fools they.
@thinkingtoomuch7974
2 ай бұрын
As if a situation where your resources are being plundered by France is a golden alternative!
@Dhako345
2 ай бұрын
@@SiRasputin it's western propaganda
@spehropefhany
4 ай бұрын
They claim New Caledonia has 20-30% of the world's nickel reserves. Nickel is a vital material for things like stainless steel and batteries. Quite the economic prize, and with such a tiny population.
@Glenn_Ratcliffe
4 ай бұрын
Correct. It's also y France has made voting easier 4new residents. It's part of their neo-colonialism mindset 🤮
@aboukirvienne5352
4 ай бұрын
Kanak have been given full management of 2 out of 3 largest mines of the island. With help of France, they brought in international mining groups (non French) to pour in more investment. As they are mismanaged and loosing money, they survive with subsidies from France. The international mining groups want to disvest and focus on main competitor in nickel extraction: Indonesia.
@roiduc9985
4 ай бұрын
the nickel sector has never made a dime go check it up. Vale Glencore all had a try and broke their teeth
@Saucisse_Praxis
4 ай бұрын
It also has a unique biodiversity (that an understatement), but the french mining industry is endangering all of it.
@aboukirvienne5352
4 ай бұрын
@@Saucisse_Praxis Kanak are first requestor in exploiting the nickel and France has among the most advanced regulations on bio diversity. What is your benchmark Fidji? Indonesia?
@MrSaemisch
4 ай бұрын
You left out the part about how the referendums did not include all residents of the territory. The franchise was heavily restricted to favor independence.
@achmedaan
4 ай бұрын
This was exactly what I was wondering. I think it wouldn't make sense to allow French citizens who migrated to New Caledonia 3 years ago to vote. Apparently in order to vote you needed to reside in New Caledonia since before 1994. This seems like a really reasonable requirement.
@WatchMeDoMath
4 ай бұрын
@@achmedaan Residency for 30 years? Most developed countries have pathways to citizenship that are ten years or less, which seems to be a perfectly ample time to earn a say in where you live. Complaints about immigration in developed countries generally aren't at all to do with the choice of this timescale.
@rmgeneral8554
4 ай бұрын
Every coloniser say the same thing
@Saucisse_Praxis
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, why not let french people vote for Canadian and US elections, they colonized it as well...
@Laitalafraise
4 ай бұрын
Allowing colonizers to vote in a referendum for independence does not make sense
@guillaumeroy7528
4 ай бұрын
It's essential to mention that the electorate for the three recent independence referenda (2018, 2020 and 2021) were restricted to French nationals who had settled in New Caledonia in 1994 or earlier, thereby excluding a significant proportion of New Caledonians. This frozen electorate arrangement favouring independence was to last until 2022, not indefinitely. Moreover, independence would succeed if 50% + 1 of the restricted electorate voted in favour at ANY of the three referenda. In these circumstances, I find it unacceptable to accuse France of modern-day colonialism. Do critics truly believe France should disregard the will of the people expressed in the five referenda (1958, 1987, 2018, 2020 and 2021)? They could more appropriately accuse France of violating democratic principles by freezing the electorate and excluding part of the population that has lived there for decades and contributed to the archipelago's development. Moreover, only Kanak residents reaching the age of majority were automatically registered to vote whereas their non-Kanak counterparts had to take action to register themselves to participate in the referenda. Even the proposed 10 years is twice the time period normally required for alien residents to be able to naturalize in France (typically 5 years reduced to 2 years for most native francophones). I am not French and have never lived in France so this topic is foreign to me. Please feel free to correct any mistakes. Thank you.
@aboukirvienne5352
4 ай бұрын
Noumea Agreements of 1998 were already planning a 10 year residency voting rule. It is French president Chirac who froze the voting group in 2007. Some people are not able to vote but have been living on the island for 26 years. Put also in perspective that Kanak are not the first Melanesian settlers of the island but rather arrived in significant numbers 150 years before European. So quick question how long before settlers families arrived on the island in 1853 to 1900 are considered by UN locals in their own right? They might not be the prime settlers of the island but they justify a long presence here. Longer than a lot of ruling communities in middle east, Africa and South America.
@andrewlim9345
4 ай бұрын
Watching from New Zealand, another former settler colony. I see parallels between the Kanaks and Maori, who were demographically and politically marginalised by British settlers during the 19th and 20th centuries. Kanaks fear such a fate. Being a Chinese Kiwi, I can also identify with migrant populations who came to New Caledonia after 1998 and cannot vote due to the Noumea Accords. Tricky balancing the rights of Kanaks with those of the migrant populations.
@cmolodiets
3 ай бұрын
funny. According to the U.N. or namely to the "United Nations list of non-self-governing territories", the 4 remaining colonial powers are the U.K., U.S.A., France and new zealand.
@gusarov_ruslan
3 ай бұрын
Please do not mess with Azerbaijan Republic and NZ will be A-OK. I live in Canada and like all new Canadians with Chinese roots. You guys are a brain.
@user-vv7rr3ls9i
3 ай бұрын
Live and let live.. Everyone living in NC should get the right to vote. Don't submit to gang violence.
@taen6917
4 ай бұрын
I like the way u explain back from history to date so keep Ur good work.
@Spacemongerr
4 ай бұрын
Thanks, James. Best summary of the situation I've seen by far. PS. Enjoyed your book!
@ottomanosman2463
4 ай бұрын
France created this themselves and then they claimed Azerbaijan and Turkey support New Caledonian unrest. 🤣
@patanouketgersiflet9486
4 ай бұрын
One does not exclude the other, mind you. Plus they didn't claim Turkey played a role in it, as far as I know.
@fatobeko3181
4 ай бұрын
ottomanosman2463 nobody claimed turkey support new caledonian unrest
@lours6993
4 ай бұрын
It is a mischaracterization to call New Caledonia ‘a colony without self-determination’ - It is today a ‘collectivity’ represented as a region of France, like any other region of France, with its own members of parliament. It has a degree of local administrative devolution and it has voted in multiple referenda to remain in France, and even the indigenous people know they are better off economically with the massive subsides they receive from France and have much greater GDP per capital and services than their neighbors in the region. There does indeed remain a numerical minority of indigenous people, usually at the low end of the socioeconomic scale, who want full independence; there is nothing unique about this in principle: you can find the same in very many countries across the so called ‘New World’ - from Australia (Torres Strait Islanders) to the US (Hawaiian indigenous people), Canada and many other large nations. As correctly pointed out at the end, external agents, Azerbaijan, are furious at France’s support for Armenia in that conflict and are doing all they can to generate this recent flare-up in New Calendonia as pay-back.
@karacaddy
3 ай бұрын
In this comment, you read about classical French chauvinism and how to be superior to everyone else, that is, French fascism! The French are one of the biggest massacre colonies in history. Even the Nazis did not carry out the massacres they committed in Africa, North Africa, Oceania, Syria, occupied Turkey and Indochina! But for some reason the French, for example, accuse the Turks of genocide, oh what a contradiction!!!!
@kewintaylor7056
3 ай бұрын
New Calidonia liberation would be the best!…. No more colonialized by France!,… Good job ppl of New Calidonia!👏👍
@pz4336
4 ай бұрын
Great video, as always. If I may add a contribution from my (mainland) French point of view, framing the electoral law change as just a manipulation to dilute the pro-independence vote is only telling half of the story. Currently, only people who have resided continuously in New Caledonia for the past 26 years can vote in provincial elections and for independence referendums. While this is justified by the willingness to give more weight to the Kanaks and other people who have a generational connexion to the territory, it is also a democratic anomaly to have such a large portion of the population, some of them having established in New Caledonia more than a decade ago, deprived of voting rights. Seeing it in this light, the government's reform makes more sense as a middle ground between the current system and full voting rights for everyone (I am personally against it and support the Kanaky independence movement, but I don't think it is fair to not mention this point of view). It is a very interesting territory and there are lots of things to be said about it, including for instance the colonial mindset and racism of the whites living there (much more so than the government), but this is a great summary!
@JamesKerLindsay
4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much. It is really great to get this perspective. I sincerely appreciate it. Excellent point about allowing people who have lived there for quite some time to have a say in local affairs. This is how it should be, and you're right; there is a good democratic justification for the changes from that perspective. But I can also accept that there's also an extremely delicate demographic situation that any such electoral changes will inevitably alter in a way that will allow more outsiders to take part in any independence vote. I haven't looked into whether this has already happened, but this is the sort of thing that a body like the Venice Commission could be ideal to assess and come up with formal proposals.
@FOLIPE
4 ай бұрын
@@JamesKerLindsayWell some people might argue that about Scotland or Quebec or even the whole of the UK when it comes to any future vote on joining the EU. Whenever some demographics vote different than another, one might argue "differential franchissement" is an important thing to take into account
@daphuc502
3 ай бұрын
@@FOLIPE allowing settlers to vote for NC independence is probably like maybe lets have every single person in the UK , especially the English vote for .... Scottish and Irish independences . This is between Kanaks and the French , not between French and French , Kanaks are not French , and they never wanted to be, they were forced to.
@lake1963
4 ай бұрын
Very well done. Thanks, Professor! Once an Armenian French girl came to my college in NYC as an exchange student. This makes me realize the influence of Armenians in France. This anecdote, needless to say, was overgeneralized. But the end of the talk kind of confirms my impression.
@conorreynolds9739
4 ай бұрын
One French woman of Armenian descent indicates what exactly?
@lake1963
4 ай бұрын
@@conorreynolds9739 Armenians are rather influential in France and America. Since two Caucasus countries are at war, little wonder Azerbaijan does not like France much.
@eren3390
Ай бұрын
@@lake1963armenians? influence? 🤣🤣🤣
@comfy8250
4 ай бұрын
I mean if they voted to accept the new constitution and laws they accepted the rules that allowed more people to live there, and if even after being allowed to restrict the right to vote in their favor, they still lost three times, can they really complain about the results and demand an even more rigged voting system to guarantee minority rule? Even if they become independent they'd still have to deal somewhat fairly with the 60% of people there who aren't Kanak and won't start voting like Kanak nationalists after being forced to leave France against their will. They ether expel everyone, have brazen minority rule in their own ethnostate or split the island if they want their own state now. Realistically that's their options.
@FOLIPE
4 ай бұрын
Yes it reminds one of ugly situations where some populations have been disenfranchised due to how they vote
@cs4155
4 ай бұрын
"Even if they become independent they'd still have to deal somewhat fairly with the 60% of people there who aren't Kanak and won't start voting like Kanak nationalists" That is a way better outcome than being a slave to a country halfway across the world that is also draining their natural resources.
@damiendehorn6350
4 ай бұрын
So does that mean we can split france into micro states too?
@John-Jenin
4 ай бұрын
It's non of your fkin business. We live in 2024, there's no excuse for colonialism.
@nsk370
4 ай бұрын
@@cs4155a way better outcome for a minority, at the cost of depriving the majority of its basic rhuman rights. Sounds like a very nice system/s
@markaxworthy2508
4 ай бұрын
What is the point of three referenda in four years?
@irtov2270
4 ай бұрын
The government knew remainders were the majority and the support is not going to change much in 4 years to change the outcome. But, they will be able to say that they gave 3 referendums and use this to stop the independence movement. That's what I think.
@Leiwanderer
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video! I had hoped you would cover this this week! I'm still wondering about the UN list. Do the UN mention what France can do to get New Caledonia off of it or why it's still on there? Are there any differences between these islands and territories like French Guiana or Mayotte?
@JamesKerLindsay
4 ай бұрын
Great questions! You’re absolutely right. It is a strange situation. All of Britain’s overseas territories are on the list, but not all France’s are. I think it is because it has more completely integrated them into the French state. It’s interesting to note that the US got Alaska and Hawaii off the list by making them states, but also managed to get Puerto Rico off my making it a Commonwealth, although it is regarded by many as a colony in all but name - although many Americans would of course disagree. It is such a fascinating and confusing situation. Perhaps I should try to make a video on all this!
@brendasmart553
4 ай бұрын
@@JamesKerLindsayYes, more on Puerto Rico specially would be sweet to learn more about them.
@someguy3766
4 ай бұрын
The reason is because Mayotte and French Guiana are not dependent territories, but rather, integral parts of the French state.
@Leiwanderer
4 ай бұрын
@@someguy3766 What does this mean in practice? I know they have their own currency in New Caledonia, but do they have fewer rights than the people of Guiana? And French Polynesia is also on the list, even though it's part of the COM.
@GinoLaMainFroide
4 ай бұрын
@@Leiwanderer Nope that's the opposite. New Caledonia and Polynesia have more autonomy than integrated departments while still having deputies and senators and voting for President of France. They're on the UN list because there's a significant amount of local politicians who want it, while it's a way less prevalent topic in Guadeloupe, Martinique or French Guiana.
@AhmedMushtaq-ux9wu
3 ай бұрын
Freedom for New Caledonia now
@g1y3
4 ай бұрын
Will there be a video on recent ICJ ruling telling Isreal to stop offensive into rafah.
@JamesKerLindsay
4 ай бұрын
Probably not. I have already covered the main case. While it is a welcome decision, it doesn’t fundamentally change anything at this stage. But I will certainly return to it when there is a major development.
@artman12
4 ай бұрын
How does Australia feel about this? Australia’s Indigenous peoples were also demographically replaced. Australia must be concerned because an independent New Caledonia will be a huge win for China, which made a security agreement with Solomon Islands and is continuing to increase its presence across the Pacific islands.
@momokui
4 ай бұрын
Strange... why the mind of western people always thinks of China, not the real victim which is the Kanak, who have been colonized for very long time.
@budawang77
4 ай бұрын
The Australian government is supportive of France retaining its stake in the Pacific being seen as a counter weight to Chinese influence. On the other hand, Australia has to be careful to acknowledge the concerns of Pacific island states, particularly the Melanesian ones, that have obvious sympathies for the Kanak people. Likewise, indigenous Australians are also inclined to support New Caledonian independence. The crisis in New Caledonia is not good news for Australia or the West more generally. China and Russia are obviously happy about this distraction.
@guyh9992
4 ай бұрын
See the France/Australia strategic partnership originally signed in 2013 which has always benefited France more than Australia.
@hohepatewhiu1818
4 ай бұрын
And New Zealand.
@DollyRanch
4 ай бұрын
@@guyh9992 and the deal Australia signed with the States and the UK in AUKUS also benefited them more than Australia. We make poor strategic decisions
@anthonytitone
4 ай бұрын
1:11 how do they conclude who is non-self governing? For example why is New Caledonia on the list while Mayotte, Guadeloupe, & Martinique r not?
@fredleung616
4 ай бұрын
Mayotte, Guadeloupe and Martinique all voted in referenda to fully integrate with their sovereign power as equal citizens. According to the UN, a non-self-governing territory can be taken off the list if the population self-determines to either 1. fully integrate with the colonial power or another power, 2. enter into free association with the colonial power or another power, 3. independence. While most colonies chose 3., some chose the other options.
@anthonytitone
4 ай бұрын
@@fredleung616 o ok, I thought New Caledonia votes in French elections tho? Am I wrong about that or is there some other factor that makes them non equal citizens?
@erikthomsen4768
4 ай бұрын
@@anthonytitoneThey have senators in the French Senate. The only undemocratic thing about Senatorial Elections is that a number of New Caledonians can’t vote because they’ve only been there for 30 years.
@terayres
4 ай бұрын
Do note that Capitain James Cook was not Scottish he was born in Yorkshire.
@someguy3766
4 ай бұрын
Correct he named the islands after Scotland because they reminded him of the Scottish mountains.
@mr.mysteriousspyman4016
4 ай бұрын
He had Scottish ancestry.
@alexanderSydneyOz
4 ай бұрын
@@someguy3766 the logic of which, one would have to say, cannot be faulted....
@leechgully
4 ай бұрын
care factor nil
@heycidskyja4668
3 ай бұрын
@@mr.mysteriousspyman4016 Irrelevant.
@Dhekem
3 ай бұрын
🇮🇱 is behind 🇳🇨
@rpgbb
4 ай бұрын
Another important point is Chinese interference. The troll farms are in Anti-France mode now, supporting New Caledonia independence
@alicejyi4705
4 ай бұрын
Right, the Chinese are behind the gilet jeune, the retirement reform, the students' protest, the violence in the banlieue...'etc.. and even the French explosive deficit.. without China, France could have dominated the world lol !!
@cuber5003
4 ай бұрын
@tekinfomedi Inside the PRC yes, however, The CCP would be more than happy to encourage separatism abroad. Only the naïve would believe other wise
@cmolodiets
3 ай бұрын
there seems to be a lot of pro-french trolls too
@eren3390
Ай бұрын
free caledonia 🇹🇷♥️🇳🇨
@fionaogarlasisi803
2 ай бұрын
Africa Supports The Freedom Of New Caledonia.
@chef5588
4 ай бұрын
Very interesting topic and place. A colonised archipelago where extending the right to vote to all residents, generally viewed as a good thing, is counterproductive to national liberation! Both of my sympathies are being pulled at. They may need a more unique, complex political arrangement given France isn’t likely to remove itself and non-Kanaks from the region anytime soon. Thanks for the video!
@nromk
4 ай бұрын
There is a solution, New Caledonia 🇳🇨 becomes a country.
@FOLIPE
4 ай бұрын
@@nromkBut that is against the wishes of the locals so it'd be anti democratic
@TMWT
4 ай бұрын
They voted no for independence 4 times (first time in 1988). They know how suicidal it would be to try to live off of unstable nickel prices and tourism, never mind the loss of security. Dignity through independence means nothing if you're just gonna end up like Haiti.
@relaxedmind01
4 ай бұрын
@@TMWThow many years did France milked Haiti to bring to its knees
@TMWT
4 ай бұрын
@@relaxedmind01 1/3rd of New Caledonia GDP is subsidies from France. Kanaks aren't the majority, how would independence work out in your eyes exactly?
@TheLocalLt
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video professor! Complicated situation with Azerbaijan’s involvement, but it seems like a calculated risk by France to alienate Azerbaijan with the hope of pulling Armenia away from Russia, an effort that appears to be making some slow progress. I doubt the flare-up in New Caledonia was seeded by Azerbaijan; as you pointed out there is a preexisting history of unrest in the territory. In that regard, with the territory’s future in the French Overseas now secure after the series of referenda, Paris should work on efforts to further satisfy the needs of the Kanak population. There has seemingly been progress made in this regard over the past few decades, but perhaps now is the time for a further commitment. Thanks as always for providing a solid basis for discussion!
@JamesKerLindsay
3 ай бұрын
Thanks LocalLt. Yes, France also has a complex relationship with Turkey. To add to all this, there's a large and well-established Armenian community in France. In this sense, Azerbaijan certainly has a lot to be annoyed about. But it still comes as rather a surprise to see it launching a hybrid attack on France in this way. It really does show how the world is changing and how so many issues can be weaponised.
@Zen-sx5io
4 ай бұрын
I read the title as New California.
@JamesKerLindsay
4 ай бұрын
That would make for a very different video indeed! :-)
@bilic8094
4 ай бұрын
The way newsom runs California it wouldn't be far fetched.
@simonpetrikov3992
4 ай бұрын
That would be an American insurgency
@marilynlucero9363
4 ай бұрын
New California Republic!
@zurielsss
4 ай бұрын
Fallout 4 ?
@clouds2593
3 ай бұрын
It serves them right, they consistently voted against independence from France.
@JamesKerLindsay
3 ай бұрын
It serves who right?
@asya9493
3 ай бұрын
How can a 40% Kanak population rule over 60% Europeans and mixed-bloods ? They cannot and should not. The important things will be to build ties between the Europeans and mixed-bloods to prevent splits there, plus remove the top Kanak activists to a French prison while ensuring those remaining have the carrot of the means to an enjoyable life but are aware of the stick of armed force ready to deal with any activism.
@billking8843
4 ай бұрын
Had dinner with some Kanak activists around 40 years ago. They were keen on a peaceful settlement that would bring a Kanaky that would work for all of the communities. That was not to be. Instead of partnering with the Kanaks to build a durable independence, France was set on further marginalising the Kanaks.
@Saint_Edward_987
4 ай бұрын
Giving white folks rightfully living there the right to vote is not marginalising the indigenous. It is a basic right and if black/asian/whatever else citizens were not allowed to vote in France, the world would be up in arms.
@solsunman383
4 ай бұрын
Crucially it's people who have lived there for 10 years. That's not France bussing in a bunch of people to skew a vote. That's people who have lived there long enough to become naturalised citizens if New Caledonia WAS independent. It's also not just White Europeans being given the vote. It's non Kanak Polynesians, Asian, Black etc.
@Saucisse_Praxis
4 ай бұрын
Exactly, but this is not surprising considering France's colonial track record
@elios4592
4 ай бұрын
They had 3 rounds of votes, boycotted the last one because the knew that it was going to be the last fail. Reality is that kanak independantists must reject these democratic votes to continue to exist, to continue pretending that they are marginalized when they are in fact a privileged group on the island. They are now a minority denying thousands of people the right to vote, their only leverage being that their ancestors where there first, but is it normal that people that lived for 25 years on this island and their child have no right to say anything about politic there? For how long must we consider those people "colonists" when lot of them are born there ?
@cmolodiets
3 ай бұрын
@@elios4592 if the kanaks are sure to fail, there is no risk organising a new referendum. From what I have seen of the slums they lives in, the kanak population doesn't seem "priviledged"
@Todd.B
4 ай бұрын
"There aren't any real winners in psychological warfare, but there are victims and there are students." Ren textbook psychological warfare, or hybrid conflict, we are seeing it in every country around the world these days.
@philbrooks5979
4 ай бұрын
What makes you think those referendums were not rigged in any way?
@GinoLaMainFroide
4 ай бұрын
These referendums were done in a way that was decided by the Noumea agreement of 1998. That agreement was signed by French Government, leading pro-Independence figures and leading anti-Independence figures in New Caledonia, and was then approved by referendum (and it got an higher share of the vote in Kanak-majority cities than in Kanak-minority cities). Rules on who can vote were clear and deemed acceptable by both pro and anti independence sides, all partie had observers and every citizen can witness counting if he or she wishes so. First two referendums were as valid as that kind of referendum could be. On the other hand the third one was a complete joke, French Government rejected calls by pro-independence politicians to delay it due to Covid (thus forcing both sides to dial down campaign efforts and messing up with Kanak mourning traditions), which led to a boycott. And that's because of third referendum being such a joke that pro-independence parties are way less willing to compromise.
@erikthomsen4768
4 ай бұрын
Guilt has to be proven first because one is innocent unless one is proven guilty.
@abdifatah8520
4 ай бұрын
Great video, as always. Professor, thanks for the hard work
@andrewsarantakes639
4 ай бұрын
James, great video on an issue that has many facets to examine. And I believe the issue of outside agitation needs to be examined more in depth. France has this territory and has in all political situations has to create a method to balance many political issues with various coalitions while grounding these concerns in political pragmatism. That is why, as you brought up, the issue of outside agitation is salient. Outside agitation in effect creates an artificial construct, when previously a balancing of political concerns has previously been accomplished. Thanks for the great video.
@damiendehorn6350
4 ай бұрын
Racist france, always trying to deflect.
@ChrisTheLoneWanderer
4 ай бұрын
Hilarious that Azerbaijan has presented itself as an anti-colonial force by doing only some rhetorical posturing. They even did a mass meeting of various separatists from French territories last year...for...some reason. I think the colony label is very apt in more ways than one. While autonomous and self-governing in some respects, Kanak is still not as integrated as say, French Guiana. Theories of colonialism also note economic colonialism, and France's extraction of nickel and use of military bases certainly qualify. Thus, it's an unequal relationship that needs to be mitigated. The latest riots must be due to more systemic reasons than just the voting law, like economic issues. Without that being addressed, New Caledonia will erupt once more.
@patanouketgersiflet9486
4 ай бұрын
Yes the voting law seems to just have been the spark the ignited it all. Deep rooted causes, socio economic ones, historical ones. On top of that, the territory has a hard time supporting itself from an economic standpoint ( not many resources, unfortunately many businesses were just burned to the grounded and looted during the latest riotings, which wont help matters ) and from a food production point of view. No matter how you look at it, there's no easy way out of this.
@nsk370
4 ай бұрын
A country where the titular ethnic group did not even reach 2/3 majority 100 years ago and that has annexed and ethnicaly cleansed large swathes of territory that explicitly did not want to become part of it presenting itself as anti-colonial. If that isn't ironic idk what is.
@marccru
3 ай бұрын
Poor bastards if France does leave
@johnkwenamakgamatha5502
3 ай бұрын
Prof James Ker-Lindsay How is West Papua not on that UN list? Indonesian occupation of the territory is illegitimate!
@shakiMiki
4 ай бұрын
Another informative video filling in vital gaps left by the news.
@youknow6968
4 ай бұрын
He does have that touch.
@Samirustem
3 ай бұрын
People in azerbaijan were always very strongly against colonialism. They would supported kanak people even before france decided to be enemies with us. Now we have reason also to put money where our heart is
@kishfoo
4 ай бұрын
Wow! That is superb journalism! That puts things in perspective. There are so many players and agendas. I don't know how the Kanaks are gauging disparity. Sure, they might not get better salaries than their European counterparts, but that's to do more with class than racism and every country's has it. They seem pretty well off compared to other neighbors like East Timor. But then their are successful independent nations in the region like Indonesia. Is independence really worth the gamble? Also, the minimum wage in New Caledonia is higher than that of my country, Japan. Go figure (granted, the cost of living might be higher).
@kishfoo
4 ай бұрын
Class disparity can seem racially motivated, especially in this kind of scenario. French advanced technology in mining and refining are used, and naturally, they would want to protect this tech by sending over educated people who earn larger salaries in tow with their education. They could also open a new wave of low labor force immigration by asking if any low education Frenchies want to work New Caledonian at local Kanak wages. I'm sure there will be many who would jump at the opportunity to live the relatively peaceful island life. This could show the locals that it's not about racism, but it'll also take away their jobs. Maybe 5000 such workers. Young men and women who fancy interracial freedoms. A bizarro reverse in immigration norms. Might be interesting to see what happens.
@princehassaniii530
3 ай бұрын
Professor. As always, I commend your historical videos. I just wanted to mention that around 15 years ago. I had the privilege and the honour of delving deeply into the history of New Caledonia and had lead to uncovering some disturbing injustices and intentional suppressions of historical events by France. Much like how Britain had colonised Australia in the 1800s by transferring large amounts of petty criminals from Britain to Australia. I had discovered that the French had also conducted a similar initiative up until 1950/60s by relocating hundreds of thousands of Algerian/Arab anti-colonial activists from North Africa to New Caledonia to deliberately suppress the Algerian people’s resistances to the brutal France colonial rule in North Africa but also had used the deportations from North African to colonise the New Caledonia island to justify a French occupation/rule. More importantly. I have come to the realisation that every single conflicts and disputes around the world 🌍 today. Stems from a European colonial legacies which is causing continuous conflicts till this today global. Regards
@2msvalkyrie529
3 ай бұрын
Colonial countries like Malaya , Indonesia , Vietnam and India are all prosperous today. Most of them have been independent for 60- 70 years......corrupt and incompetent government are the main cause of conflict...See ; Pakistan ..?!
@markwin77
4 ай бұрын
France still owns 3 Pacific Territories. The 2 well known and mentioned is both French Polynesia and New Caledonia but the third 1 is Wallis & Futuna Island Group which is located between Fiji and Samoa.
@eljanrimsa5843
4 ай бұрын
The video is based on the "United Nations list of non-self-governing territories" and Wallis and Futuna is not on this list, but New Caledonia is. The video does a poor job explaining this, but the list is a bit odd and not easy to understand. E.g. French Guyana, Guadeloupe, Martinique and Réunion are not on the list anymore because they are considered a fully integrated part of France now, and thus not considered colonies by the UN. On the other hand, New Caledonia and French Polynesia, have been reinstated to this list by a UN vote because they are neither fully integrated nor fully autonomous. I haven't found any explicit reason why Wallis and Futuna is not on the list, perhaps it's just a matter of the UN never putting it to the vote.
@27rauf
4 ай бұрын
As Azerbaijani I'm quite happy that we've introduced the concept of french double standards to France itself. The basic rule is to never do to someone what you wouldn't want done to yourself.
@achmedaan
4 ай бұрын
What double standard is that?
@ravenmusic6392
4 ай бұрын
You're unhappy that France spoke out against Azerbaijans ethnic cleansing of Armenians from Nagorno Karabakh lol
@johnwright9372
4 ай бұрын
How is democracy going in your country?
@27rauf
4 ай бұрын
@@ravenmusic6392 Why does the story on your local TV constantly become the basis of your understanding of our conflict with Armenians? When France backed a violent foreign incursion that forcibly uprooted a million of my countrymen and then dismissed everything as a separatist movement inside our nation's internationally recognized borders, I, along with the rest of the country, was obviously unhappy. Please don't try to force your pseudo-democratic foolishness on us; I don't care what controls your presidential election, if you opt to support separatism you might get it on your own backyard or rather 16 thousand km from it.
@turanmardanov7264
4 ай бұрын
@ravenmusic6392 there were no ethnic cleansing, even Armenian Prime Minister has mentioned it
@joshraymond979
4 ай бұрын
Look man if all kanaks are French citZens and take part of the French political process n vote yet a Frenchmen who moved their 20 years ago and had their kids their who call the island their home cannot vote like I get they want to be free but you can’t just disenfranchise half the population and not let them vote and then rioting when France offers to expand voting rights it’s ridiculous if they get independence what of those other minorities that weren’t allowed to vote will they be kept out of the political process? Given citizenship? What’s stopping them from having their own uprising or insurgency to keep France in power
@Fyrlss
4 ай бұрын
WOW... thanks Professor.... an extremely useful video, I didn't know how deep this issue is rooted and who is "playing" a key role. Apropos the last part, do you think that Russia is stirring up trouble for France through Azeri proxy, or do you think that Turkiye would do that? What your opinion about this part?
@moeawale4891
4 ай бұрын
You mean the Russian apropos or agitprop?
@Fyrlss
4 ай бұрын
@@moeawale4891 "apropos" means by the way or "regarding" ...
@terayres
4 ай бұрын
Nickel was discovered in the 19th century not in the 1960s
@user34274
4 ай бұрын
The video was talking about deposits discovered in NEW CALEDONIA in the 60s. He didn’t imply that nickel was discovered for the first time then.
@SuperHowie001
4 ай бұрын
The French usually wear out their welcome everywhere they go.
@YorranKlees
4 ай бұрын
Really? And why is it that it's not happening in the Silicon valley? And I didn't even start to talk about British villages in France, because people wanted a better life than in the UK. My guess is, you have your own personal bias on the subject.
@kuchingkuching
4 ай бұрын
Who would a thought WW3 starts in the Pacific.. oh wait thats literally also what happened last time
@zolandia5262
4 ай бұрын
Gee I could make quite a few suggestions for additions to the UN's list of non self governing territories in need of de-colonisation. Who do I write to about this?
@benjauron5873
4 ай бұрын
Why not just make New Caledonia an Overseas Department, like French Guiana or Reunion? Then they won't be "non-self-governing" anymore.
@jackyex
4 ай бұрын
That would end the high autonomy that New Caledonia has.
@cmolodiets
3 ай бұрын
That's probably what is intended in the long term but Kanaks are rioting for a 4th referendum and against a law that would enlarge the electorate college and reduce Kanaks' influence. The truth is this island has been theirs for centuries and they want it back free from colonial occupation.
@scarletcrusade77
4 ай бұрын
Wait so uk made the discovery of of the island in 1700’s but France took it in the 1850’s, why didn’t the uk just take it before then? Was it really left independent for all that time?
@lanceyoung9955
4 ай бұрын
It's not that surprising, there was a fair level of reluctance to get involved by UK in pacific islands unless it had too. There were plenty of European whalers and Missionaries in NZ from 1770s, but UK didn't make a move to establish a formal colony until 1840 and even then it tried to keep presence minimal.
@FlamingBasketballClub
4 ай бұрын
You meant this particular flag? 🇳🇨
@JamesKerLindsay
4 ай бұрын
Indeed. New Caledonia has its own flag.🇳🇨
@vizibilibende5194
4 ай бұрын
🇹🇷🇦🇿❤🇳🇨 🥰🥰🥰
@lucna3295
4 ай бұрын
Please, stop using the term colony for New Caledonia, it is a separate territory of France…
@JamesKerLindsay
4 ай бұрын
France can call it what it likes, but it sure looks like a colony to the rest of the world.
@BondJFK
3 ай бұрын
is that separate territory in European continent ? if not its colony
@redjacc7581
4 ай бұрын
Lets get the elephant in the room out of the way. If it becomes independent it will become another haiti, no industry, no jobs, no hope. Also, i doubt france can actually do anything as it failed to stop the islamist insurgency in mali after 2 years of trying and eventually gave up and handed responsibility to the UN. I am no against independence for countries but do hate it when they cannot properly govern themselves and then when things spiral out of control they then go back to the colonial power crying for help.
@salakasto
4 ай бұрын
Name a single case in which the former colony has gone back to its colonial overlords crying for help.
@artman12
4 ай бұрын
@@salakastoAnguilla became independent and then decided to become British again.
@artman12
4 ай бұрын
It couldn’t be like Haiti because Haiti was devastated by the plantation system and all the natural disasters. Comoros is a more fitting example. Comoros decided to become independent while Mayotte chose to remain part of France. Now, the people of Comoros are immigrating to Mayotte for a better life and to give their children French citizenships.
@salakasto
4 ай бұрын
@artman12 Anguilla has never wanted independence. It only became independent briefly to separate from St. Kitts and rejoin the UK.
@budawang77
4 ай бұрын
New Caledonia is very different to Haiti! It has a diverse population with no one group in the majority. It has good infrastructure and significant natural resources with a relatively low population density. It has stable and prosperous neighbours (Australia and New Zealand) and France would be unlikely to stop supporting it completely. New Caledonia already has a lot of autonomy and outright independence is a very unlikely outcome.
@user-vs4uh1vr8v
3 ай бұрын
I hope the Native Kanak population gets their full independence. Get out France.: you have no right to be in New Caledonia
@thebeautifulones5436
4 ай бұрын
Just imagine if native French in France didn’t let recent settlers vote!
@ihavenojawandimustscream4681
4 ай бұрын
Well the Native French don't give a damn about other native peoples under their rule as we can see in New Caledonia. The world would respect Europe's anti-immigration demands more if not for their hypocrisy in their colonies
@shafsteryellow
4 ай бұрын
How is that remotely logical
@mitchyoung93
4 ай бұрын
@@shafsteryellow He is talking about the mass migration into French of the last 60 years.
@davidaxelos4678
4 ай бұрын
You must be French to vote in national elections.
@shafsteryellow
4 ай бұрын
@@mitchyoung93 irrelevant.
@gift7233
3 ай бұрын
No need of referendums give them their freedom. Stop colonialism.
@Noah1976-c1u
4 ай бұрын
Today's France is a weak country without the military capacity or the economic means to allow Paris to keep it's large colonial empire overseas. French colonialism is known to be very humiliating for native people, it imposes french language and culture by force without any economic gains or advantages for the colonized people. In today's world, large opposing superpowers will not allow western countries to dominate in their backyards. There's no way China, Russia, Brazil or even India will accept that a small european country like France occupies a neighboring island. I personally think China is helping behind the scene the native Kanak people to get their independence from the french colonizer.
@robertchautardjensen6846
3 ай бұрын
Your assumptions are utter nonsense.
@theconqueringram5295
4 ай бұрын
Just another headache for Macron.
@alicejyi4705
4 ай бұрын
Macron IS the headache
@sirstiffpilchard
4 ай бұрын
Britain had to return most of their colonies back to the indigenous people. France have not let all of their colonies go. Both countries must complete the job.
@pomperidus
4 ай бұрын
Have Australia and New-Zealand been returned back to the indigenous people? What a joke.
@cmolodiets
3 ай бұрын
according to the United Nations list of non-self-governing territories, most remaining colonies are british
@malmotumotu5218
3 ай бұрын
Stuff France! The indigenous needs their freedom,Tahiti,New Caledonia,Futuna and Uvea! Shame on them,that in these days and era,they aren’t ashamed of their dark Colonial history!!!
@SarjoKhan-u8s
4 ай бұрын
Free New Caledonia 🇳🇨✊🙏💯♥️
@blakebauman9654
4 ай бұрын
Not a big fan of democracy?
@Doochos
4 ай бұрын
Did you miss the video?
@rennydesu
4 ай бұрын
@@blakebauman9654democracy is the will of the people. France allowed open migration into New Caledonia in order to dilute the risk of the Kanaks voting for their freedom. The Kanak's overwhelming vote for independence. Stop using democracy as a shield when this is barely fair
@JeanGoalin
3 ай бұрын
There have been 3 referendums, more than 50% of the population of the Archipelago of various communities (not counting people who arrived after 1998 who do not have the right to vote) are opposed to Independence... should we ignore them? Do native peoples in Australia or New Zealand impose their views on the majority of the population of external origin?
@dantepr1566
3 ай бұрын
Hah. They should.
@sebastienrimbeau6998
20 күн бұрын
No, they shouldn't. They didn't have any kind of civilization before the Anglos, no alphabet and were practising cannibalism. The British created Australia and New Zealand and the indigenous tribes were either killed, either assimilated to the local Anglo culture and Western civilization.
@barry7608
4 ай бұрын
That’s seems very balanced. I maybe wrong but is it not true that the US and China are also deeply involved? I have subscribed, so maybe you can look into that side of things. I live in Australia and NC is closer than Perth.
@ANZACJugger0
4 ай бұрын
WOOOOO yeaah New Zealand becoming a colonial power
@eljanrimsa5843
4 ай бұрын
Tokelau has voted 60% for independence twice but it remains a dependent territory of New Zealand because New Zealand required a 67% majority to let go of its colony.
@ANZACJugger0
4 ай бұрын
@@eljanrimsa5843 Well in fairness what kind of economy does tokelau have without NZ? and will it maintain a democracy or go the way of fiji?
@sebastienrimbeau6998
20 күн бұрын
We can say the same about New Caledonia. And New Zealand itself is a former colony.
@jimmylam1486
3 ай бұрын
Thank you Prof James. As Kanaks are now the minority and without economic means, they have no way of gaining independence. It would be better for all if France treat this local group nicely, educate them and assimilate them into the more affluent groups.
@JamesKerLindsay
3 ай бұрын
Thank you. You raise a hugely important issue. Regardless of what happens with independence, it is clear that the Kanak community suffers from terrible levels of poverty and deprivation. This desperately needs to be addressed.
@xhaozhao
3 ай бұрын
France has helped the Kanak People already. The only thing they haven’t given are ventilators to breathe for them.
@sebastienrimbeau6998
20 күн бұрын
Well, Chinese would not treat them any better. They would only take the nickel.
@xhaozhao
20 күн бұрын
@@sebastienrimbeau6998 Curious. How so?
@clashoflands
4 ай бұрын
Why does the caption say a new insurgency and not what it is "A new freedom movement".?
@John-r4b1i
3 ай бұрын
🇳🇿⚖️🇵🇱over 20 years ago, Paris flooded New Caledonia with thousands of French settlers-colonisers and now say, let's exercise democracy by the vote. A joke.
@turanmardanov7264
4 ай бұрын
Free New Caledonia!
@viviogvz8886
4 ай бұрын
They are completely free! And it is the French constitution which allows precisely this. If there is one day independence in New Caledonia then struggles between communities will begin and above all they will come under the domination of other powers.
@EchoBravo370
4 ай бұрын
They have freedom. They can vote in French elections.
@mz6228
4 ай бұрын
Free from Colonialism ✌🏻
@blakebauman9654
4 ай бұрын
And democracy, apparently
@adamfrisk956
4 ай бұрын
that’s never gonna happen unfortunately, France steps out, China steps in
@Saucisse_Praxis
4 ай бұрын
@@adamfrisk956Settler mentality
@BondJFK
3 ай бұрын
@@blakebauman9654 There is no democracy if its still a colony
@dubversion1989
4 ай бұрын
Hello! Thank you very much for your analysis! As a foreigner (european, non-french) living in New Caledonia, I can say the situation is highly complex. I am lucky to work with a good amount of the kanak population and the culture difference is very important. There are many great things to say about the kanaks and others not so great, as in any society. I can understand and share their frustation with the outsiders that came in and took their lands and altered their culture. However, more than a century later, the multiculturality of New Caledonia is undeniable. Kanak, french prisioners and vietnamese are all victims of the same situation. I do not know what the solution for this situation is and it seems like every colective in this issue stands very far from having a global consensus. It is sad to see the city burn... Businesses, shops, pharmacies, medical centers... Young kids are told to slash and burn not knowing they are shooting themselves on the foot. It is estimated that more than 2000 jobs have already been destroyied. Also, this past year has not been great for the nickel, value going down with greater competence coming from Indonesia which has a way cheaper labor force and has cut down prices. We will see what how next weeks go and lets hope for the best...
@adineatha9766
4 ай бұрын
The fact that European countries still have colonies is mind boggling.
@TLCTLC-cg6cm
4 ай бұрын
NC It's not a colony. You are talking about USA there.
@Zeus-d2d
4 ай бұрын
@@TLCTLC-cg6cm Yes it is.
@TLCTLC-cg6cm
4 ай бұрын
@user-un1gx1xs2f then Hawai Puerto Rico and all US island in the Pacific are colonies too. So Yes the fact that US still has colonies which they only use for warmongering and to put their weapons on IS mind boggling. I'd much rather Iive in New Caledonia and Reunion. If only AUKUS and other warmongers leave us in PEACE.
@TLCTLC-cg6cm
4 ай бұрын
@user-un1gx1xs2f No, it's an overseas department. With special autonomy status.
@guyh9992
4 ай бұрын
In 1940 Australia strongly pressured the pro Vichy governor of New Caledonia to resign and sent a cruiser to accompany a Free French replacement. These days France benefits more from the strategic partnership signed with Australia in 2013 than Australia does. Pacific territories come about 8th in strategic importance for the French who do not have the capability to project power here indefinitely. With the situation in the Solomons Australia will naturally be concerned about destabilisation elsewhere in our region with much stronger powers than Azerbaijan involved.
@chechenknightslaillaillall2047
4 ай бұрын
I feel a strange connection here to Russia's oppressive rule on us. Like the French, whenever the Russians go, these countries go to dusk together. But that's not a surprise for me, when I learnt that Russian Tsarist regime modelled themselves after the French regime.
@moeawale4891
4 ай бұрын
It makes sense because Russian occupy Chenchniya, Crimea and many other central Asia and eastern Europe nationalities and minorities since Tsarist regime empire.
@JoBlack-dg6ey
4 ай бұрын
France changed the rules. What did they think would happen?
@erikthomsen4768
4 ай бұрын
You don’t make an agreement without being expected to follow it. The voting ban was never meant to be a permanent thing. It was entirely dependent on the outcome of the referendums. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
@bluedahlia9552
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for such a concise explanation of the situation very interesting and informative
@JamesKerLindsay
4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@JM-qi9vw
4 ай бұрын
Free New Caledonia from French occupation & colonialism, by any means necessary.
@roddychristodoulou9111
4 ай бұрын
When this happens you know it's the former colonial days that come back to haunt you . Beleive it or not I sympathize with both sides , yes every country or territory should be free and independent if they so wish . However the last thing that France wants is to grant independence then a few short years down the line New Caledonia suffering something similar to the Haiti effect . There is a halfway house whereby France could grant gradual independence say over a period of ten years . This would stop the violence and allow stability to take hold , it could also allow democratic institutions to slowly take power / control of government . I just get the feeling macron doesn't know how to proceed or that he doesn't really care what happens in distant land . Whatever happens the first thing macron needs to do is to agree on diplomatic talks regarding the situation immediately .
@Africanchild825
4 ай бұрын
France is only corncerned about the Russians in Ukraine.Their own nastiness does not concern them.
@cmolodiets
3 ай бұрын
it's not really the same scale either yet. Russia is at the apex of the fascist imperial regim
@castlerock58
4 ай бұрын
The Falkland are governed by democratically elected local governments. They have exercised their right of self-determination with referendums. Calling them non self governing is Orwellian propaganda. It is demonstrably false. France has made former colonies integral parts of democratic France with full French citizenship so it is not accurate to call them colonies. They are no more and no less self governing as any other part of France. That is why this could be messier than a colonial power simply withdrawing from a colony. If the majority of the population are French citizens who want to remain part of France, they will fight. It will be a civil war like Algeria. There is no way France can give up if 90% of the population wants to stay part of France.
@madmouse4400
4 ай бұрын
I don't see what the kanak would have to gain from it. They're the minority and Economically , they're the most impoverished group (this means that many of them are unemployed compared to other groups ), they have no actual experience in running a country (goven that the concept of an actual modern state was foreign to them before the french), they'd most likely end up like papua new guinea .
@damiendehorn6350
4 ай бұрын
Not up to racists like you to decide.
@CJ-fs1zr
4 ай бұрын
They will end up like Solomon Islands and other pacific island states which are run well
@Somalia111
4 ай бұрын
I just didn't heard and know this place before this weeks crisis, The New Caledonia, I saw Emmanuel Macron visiting here settling out the crisis.
@fuzzyhair321
4 ай бұрын
Hey france, looks like you needed Australia now
@haoyuan92
4 ай бұрын
Hello Prof, would you do a post on what next for Iran after Raisi's sudden departure
@JamesKerLindsay
4 ай бұрын
Thanks. I probably won’t cover it. It is all a little too speculative at this stage and perhaps too inward looking in terms of domestic politics. I am not sure what I can really usefully add. (And I like to use my videos to tell a bit of a bigger story in terms of international relations.) But I will certainly come back to Iran at another point.
@davebroad642
4 ай бұрын
New Caledonia, is actually part of New Zealand..geologically speaking!
@TeWakaOAoraki
4 ай бұрын
Part of the continent of Zealandia.
@hakan_ozdere
3 ай бұрын
Aren’t they French citizens? Don’t they have French public schools, don’t they have powerful passports? I think if poverty is widespread among Kanak people, could we consider if it is because of their cultural habits, just like people of Nauru. This island is very valuable for France and also Australia and New Zealand. So-called independent New Caledonia is to become a foothold for China.
@elvador999
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the explanation
@trogdortpennypacker6160
4 ай бұрын
France will have a lot of problems in the future all over the place. If the Azeris lose interest then the Russians will certainly be looking to settle scores over the next few decades and flooding the Kunaks with arms is an easy way to get some payback. We are in for a bumpy ride as we move from the rules based order to what is hopefully a more equitable system based on international law
@chechenknightslaillaillall2047
4 ай бұрын
The Russians are already after New Caledonia now. Azerbaijan is not powerful to influence, but Russia can.
@cmolodiets
3 ай бұрын
if Russia is scheming, it's unlikely a system based on international law will prevail anywhere
@thedoctor.a.s1401
2 ай бұрын
There are way for France to decolonisation in strategic geopolitical manner, if France immediately offered new Caledonia independence on the condition that they could keep a permanent French naval base in new Caledonia that would constructively and proactively co-exist and co-operate with the local population. That would not only be ethical & in line with decolonisation but it would earn you goodwill and then create a new context of mutual friendship and co-operation by winning hearts and minds. independence for a naval base. I think that's a very fair deal.
@luishernandezblonde
4 ай бұрын
I think what made it so messed up is France, unlike other former colonial empires, still regard oversea departments to be part of Metropolitan France, so the entire of French economic data was used. This created a fake sense of development. French Guiana is such an example, it has a bizarrely the highest GDP per/capita in all Latin America, yet its infrastructure doesn't match it - it looks like if we are travelling to Honduras, El Salvador, Paraguay and Bolivia - which are some of the poorest nations in there. Clearly, this happens to New Caledonia as well. This greatly fuels resentment of the Kanak population.
@adamfrisk956
4 ай бұрын
why doesn’t France develop these territories?
@luishernandezblonde
4 ай бұрын
@@adamfrisk956 Well, because all of the economic data in France was applied to their overseas territories.
@jimgraham6722
3 ай бұрын
The question is not France pulling out, but who takes over. It won't be native New Caledonians. It's you know who, the Tiktokkers who are already moving in to the Solomons just to the north. Controlling New Caledonia's substantial mineral resources and the port of Noumea is a major prize. By the way, Noumea has an interesting Pacific museum that amongst other things celebrates the Pacific explorations of Captain James Cook.
@davidbowie5023
4 ай бұрын
France has a strange ability to turn almost every colonial land they occupied into ruins. Algeria, Lebanon, Syria, Vietnam, Haiti, Guinea, etc.
@loeffelm
4 ай бұрын
It's a bit more complicated than that ...
@Pocuslol
4 ай бұрын
I could say the same about british dutch or spanish colonies with a few examples...
@davidbowie5023
4 ай бұрын
@@Pocuslol None of these colonies were as bad as French ones. While there are some examples, the general trend of French empire was always the worst.
@keshi5541
4 ай бұрын
@@Pocuslol Nah they are correct. Even the Italian colonies are doing better than many of those countries. It's why West Africa is a mess and despite the wars in East Africa economically they are doing better off. Why Libya is doing better than Algeria.
@sebastienrimbeau6998
20 күн бұрын
You should look at former Spanish, Portuguese or even some former British colonies.
@andreebesseau6995
4 ай бұрын
They had 3referendums in Wich they were asking to stay or not in France,they say yes!! So now we have a band of malcontents reacting to a new law wich in fact make sense...there is always malcontents everywhere it would seem????🤔
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