The whole reason this is not getting a 200.00 Tax stamp and registration is because its not a shotgun because it has no stock. So, if you add a stock to this, with a shorter barrel than allowed on "Shotguns" onto this " firearm" you have created a SBS in my opinion. I'm no lawyer but you guys should really look up the NFA rules to be legal.
@IAmJohnnySnow
Жыл бұрын
This is not a Stock. It is a brace.
@IAmJohnnySnow
Жыл бұрын
This weapon falls into the same category as the Komrad 12, I have one of those as well, they come from the factory with a brace and vertical foregrip. I have not seen any regulations that makes it illegal. If you know of such regulations, please inform. Adding a stock is definitely a no no without a tax stamp.
@@IAmJohnnySnow i'm still trying to get all the damn parts for this! 3 different pieces. I got the short piece that folds and I got the brace but NO ONE has the tube that connects the whole thing!
@nitrocell9287
Жыл бұрын
@patriotpaul Thankfully your opinion is not the law, the law views this as putting a brace on a semi-automatic short barrel firearm.
@SuperFuely
Жыл бұрын
The black left side folding adapter is VISM PN VG076 (that is a zero) and the Black Comm Spec tube to fit in the adapter is VISM PN VG094. Sold out everywhere, but I just back ordered from Optics Planet for $55 total. Will be fun picking a arm brace. Thanks for the GREAT Video, Best, Junior PS Gun on clearance at Palmetto for $299
@37gdog
Жыл бұрын
What is the actual folding piece from, I can't seem to find it.
@SuperFuely
Жыл бұрын
@@37gdog The parts he's using are aftermarket parts made for other Turkish made shotguns. Don't worry about the shotgun they're made for, just use the PNs given above. They are easy to spot as they all have that "Triangular" looking male / female attachment.
@virgiljohnson4260
Жыл бұрын
@@SuperFuely just ordered some from Mountsplus. Hope this is legal! LOL🤣
@gusmunoz9
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the parts info.!! I just ordered myself the VRF14 for Christmas...
@SuperFuely
Жыл бұрын
@@virgiljohnson4260 Merry Christmas, enjoy your new Firearm! Again, Hats Off to Johnny Snow!
@jacobmanalang8162
2 жыл бұрын
WOW i could not find a brace adapter so i passed on this. glad to see you found one!
@charlesleggett2546
10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video Bro. I'm sold. Gonna get one withing the next 4 months.
@2000BIRD
Жыл бұрын
This why I rock with you Johnny! Bro gonna MAKE it work! 💯💪🏾👏🏾👍🏾
@myfavoritemartian1
7 ай бұрын
I too have a VRF14. **The 9 round mag can be made into a 10 round mag easily by trimming 1-coil from the spring and trimming off some of the bottom extension of the follower. **Inspect your magazines for bolt contact! Top/rear corners will have the points knocked off and be silver in color. Dremel and sanding drum will fix this. It will make a great difference to the smoothness of your gun. **The 19 rd mag is way too clumsy and may have feeding issues due to the spliced body design. **The drums are heavy and make the gun awkward to use, but are great for showing off. I have 5- 10rd (Modified) mags in pouches for home defense. **A Factory Rep at the Shot Show said putting anything on the back or a front vertical grip was frowned upon by the ATF. (His words)
@bernarddlugonski2624
Жыл бұрын
Where did you get the attachment for this gun , as well as the name of the folding attachment? I'm considering the vrf14 myself , and like the idea of a folding stock.
@G4JVideos
3 ай бұрын
Would a brace change this legally? Just wondering as it may be construed that this firearm is to be fired from the shoulder. I know this isn't the case for AR pistols but those are classified as pistols. I suppose the brace wouldn't contribute to OAL though as it can be removed. Also, what about a vertical foregrip? From what I can find it wouldn't change the classification of it, and it's still using 2 hands to fire it so it SHOULD be ok?
@FazeG
2 жыл бұрын
*New Sub Alert* Salute bro!!! You have cracked the code AGAIN with this folder for the VRF14!!! The black accessories were out of stock on the site so I had to settle for the VRF14 Tan accessories. But nothing that a lil black spray paint can't fix lol! This vid was a big help!! Followed the instructions from this vid and got the folder installed! All I'm missing is the brace but they don't sell it on the site (yet) I'll get the brace from the other site you recommended! Thanks again!!
@IAmJohnnySnow
2 жыл бұрын
Fasho 💯
@moiecol
Жыл бұрын
You can use black Rit Dye in boiling water and let set for 5 minutes. Look it up on KZitem
@PatriotPaulUSA
Жыл бұрын
RIA's 1st New gun to come out of their new USA manufacturing plant is the VRF14. Good for the USA , new firearm and new jobs :) I think the beauty of the new VRF14 is, its a shoot from the hip, close quarters, home defense firearm.
@dreadsguns
2 жыл бұрын
Man they making shotguns look so good 😍
@jmichna1
Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your video, Johnny! Just bought myself a Black Friday Christmas gift VRF14 from PSA, and then came across your video while trying to figure out how to improve my ability to handle & aim the VRF14... that folding brace assembly is just what the doctor ordered! Thanks again, and Merry Christmas to you and yours!
@IAmJohnnySnow
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir and you have a merry Christmas as well
@virgiljohnson4260
Жыл бұрын
@@IAmJohnnySnow i just got the special from Palmetto as well. $199 after rebate!!! can't beat that deal
@AaronLives34
Жыл бұрын
I also added the chainsaw grip because reasons
@virgiljohnson4260
Жыл бұрын
@@AaronLives34 whats a chainsaw grip?
@JPE_DRAEB
Жыл бұрын
@@IAmJohnnySnow Where can i find the brace folding adapter?
@jacobbleeder301
2 жыл бұрын
HELP ! JSnow umm you hit the spot , I’m loving this from the Beginning now I’m going on this journey bruh 😎 Thanks
@christopherconey209
2 ай бұрын
Johnny Snow, that thing that you want to get rid of on the back is for a shoulder strap
@cookingwithloveandmore
Жыл бұрын
I've been thinking about getting this gun Rock Island
@IAmJohnnySnow
Жыл бұрын
I love it! You will not be disappointed 🫡💯
@afngary
2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to see your next video with the brace on it. The other spring you showed is either a heavy spring or a light spring. The heavy is when shooting hot full 3 inch shot and the light is for smaller low power shot. Have you thought of putting a front grip on it?
@AmericanPrideGunReviews
Жыл бұрын
It's odd. I bought 2 VRF14s today and neither came with an additional spring. They came with a light and heavy lost gas piston though.
@skirusher
Жыл бұрын
Love the Video Johnny, thanks. *** Where did you buy the folding buffer tube???
@Blackstryder
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! I have been wanting to pick up the VRF14 but when I saw that it had not brace/stock adaptability, it turned me off. Could you kindly share exactly what brace you are using in the video and do you intend on installing an actual shoulder-stock onto it?
@IAmJohnnySnow
2 жыл бұрын
Here you go this gives you everything images.app.goo.gl/QoPVVnR4N6wYH4Qj7
@Blackstryder
2 жыл бұрын
@@IAmJohnnySnow Thanks! Keep up the content! Love it!
@jgonzalezny3197
2 жыл бұрын
@@IAmJohnnySnow the link has several adapters which specific adapter is for the vrf14? Thanks I’m advance also what stock tube is compatible?
@tommyjoyner1134
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I bought this a couple months ago and was told there's nothing for it/ was about to sell.. got a guaranteed new subscriber
@guninkdesigns3838
Жыл бұрын
@@jgonzalezny3197 it’s OOS on Evike. I found these on Optics Planet. I believe will do the job. DLG LEFT FOLDING ADAPTOR DLG-076 VISM Grip Adapt Telestock Tube
@oonsaalwayswins5786
2 жыл бұрын
So I hate to be that guy. And I may be wrong so correct me if I am but. Does not adding that adapter not technically make it illegal? Considering its "firearm" status is contingent on the overall length being under 27"? Or does it not count if the brace is folded?
@colwhol
Жыл бұрын
I had the same concern
@forestschultz5740
Жыл бұрын
Looking at it it seems to be the same length when folding so it should be fine
@PatriotPaulUSA
Жыл бұрын
Exactly if you read the "rules" adding a stock makes it illegal
@oldstuff333
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Johnny !!! Great info !!!
@davehd2009
10 күн бұрын
That "weird thing" on the back of the gun is a loop for a sling.
@anthonyvickers4484
6 ай бұрын
Snow looks like you are moving and grooving but where did you get the folding buffer
@BruceBoyd-tc5fl
Жыл бұрын
I have designed an adapter piece that will allow this shotgun to take a normal AR-15 Style Metal buffer tube. If anyone is interested.
@MrBubba901
2 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual...I just copped one of these too..where on the planet did you find the folding buffer tube?
@Sickofsociety1
2 жыл бұрын
Search "folding buffer tube".
@BangersandBullets
Жыл бұрын
New subscriber. I just bought this and will be making a video soon
@joyroc885
Жыл бұрын
LOL I was thinking the same. Someone has to make a brace adapter for this. Would be nice to see a 1913 rail adapter for a brace.
@IAmJohnnySnow
Жыл бұрын
There is definitely a market for it!
@MichaelThomas-j6l
10 ай бұрын
What's the exact brand name of that specific buffer tube, and folding device, that is obviously compatible for the VRF-14?
@fnaf-aftonmichaellindsey7040
2 жыл бұрын
OUT OF STOCK!!! Do u know of a another folding brace tube adapter?
@jeremyrice8133
2 жыл бұрын
New sub and love the vids. I was wondering if you actually need the folding adapter to put a brace on. Please let me know sir
@IAmJohnnySnow
2 жыл бұрын
No the tube fits the same as the adapter
@danielspears7383
Жыл бұрын
Interesting hope it works well.!!
@RyuRadickal
2 жыл бұрын
hey Mr. Snow can you Please tell me where you got the folding brace adapter from? 🤞🏾😁🙏🏽
@JasonSabbides
3 ай бұрын
What’s the buffer tube you bought for this? I just bought the VR
@easyprepping
Жыл бұрын
It would be nice if it worked. I have two and they both jam every round. It's a POS. And RIA customer service will not answer the phone or respond to emails.
@BigHarryBalzac
Жыл бұрын
I almost bought an RIA USA VRF14 this afternoon but they sold out again before I could get it. Advanced Tactical has the folding stock/brace right there with spare magazines under the listing for the gun. And +3 TF mag extensions. I'm thinking about applying to SBS it when I get mine. A long time ago I read that if you manufacture an SBR or SBS instead of buying one, the tax stamp was only $5. If that's true, there are a lot of people with stupid pistol braces on ARs that could be replaced with good solid stocks, so you can shoot more accurately and comfortably, for $5.
@gregjewer4512
Жыл бұрын
Ill have one for sale this weekend
@BigHarryBalzac
Жыл бұрын
@@gregjewer4512 Newe or used?
@nitrocell9287
Жыл бұрын
I know this is technically a firearm and not a pistol but the ATF can change whatever rules they want apparently. They came after pistol braces I'm sure its only a matter of time before these new firearms catch there attention. The new rule gives owners, manufacturers and distributors 120 days to report their stabilizing braces to the ATF tax-free. They may also remove the stabilizing brace or turn in any pistol modified by a stabilizing brace to the ATF... 4 days ago
@johnrobert6821
2 жыл бұрын
Jonny snow my favorite show 💪💯
@RonBorg-lv9wp
Жыл бұрын
where did you find a commercial spec brace to fit that tube
@virgiljohnson4260
Жыл бұрын
did you ever finish this build? and take it out to the range??
@virgiljohnson4260
Жыл бұрын
wonder if I can install a fixed brace if I can't get the folding brace parts?
@dougvanleeuwen1835
2 жыл бұрын
Knowing you it's going to be badass 💯
@IAmJohnnySnow
2 жыл бұрын
Thank You Sir 💯
@ganstathuganomics11
Жыл бұрын
I knew there had to be something out there for the vrf 14 to have a stock. I shot this at the arizona firearms festival and when I saw the screw there I knew it. No I just need to find that adapter you got there and I'll be sold on this gun fa sho
@kenyonsmith4469
2 жыл бұрын
Sweet... love me a 12gauge. I know you gone freak it. 💪👑... "mod king".
@TrillKickzTv
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I have this gun. Definitely needed a brace
@IAmJohnnySnow
Жыл бұрын
FaSho 🫡💯🫡💯
@FOEKizzleMusic
Жыл бұрын
Where did you get the brace from? I can’t find anything online
@IAmJohnnySnow
Жыл бұрын
They have sold out but here’s the link advancedtactical.com/shotgun-grip-adapter-left-folding-stock-adapter/
@moiecol
Жыл бұрын
Total Sweet !!!
@tactifoo
Жыл бұрын
They have both parts available at mountsplus! :)
@johnfenchak4484
Жыл бұрын
Not available, all on backorder with no eta
@tactifoo
Жыл бұрын
@@johnfenchak4484 I guess they sold out fast
@virgiljohnson4260
Жыл бұрын
@@tactifoo yeah, i ordered them and the website didnt say out of stock. they took my order, THEN told me they were backordered and since they are coming from CHINA, no estimate on delivery! probably never.
@mattleeson2976
Жыл бұрын
What's the name of the buffer tube? I can't find it anywhere
@tactifoo
Жыл бұрын
@@virgiljohnson4260 same here. Sorry about that. The damn website doesn't say anything I had to email them and find out the same thing!
@tacticalskillionairdefense8201
2 жыл бұрын
I love it with the folded on it.
@IAmJohnnySnow
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Skilly 💯
@IAmJohnnySnow
2 жыл бұрын
I sent you the finished product in your text msg
@tacticalskillionairdefense8201
2 жыл бұрын
@@IAmJohnnySnow ok
@lacalvinbethea4253
Жыл бұрын
Where did you get that folding brace from my guy
@virgiljohnson4260
Жыл бұрын
so i finally got all the parts for the folding brace but cant figure out how to take the 'butt plug' outta the gun. It doesnt seemto be an allen wrench item
@cookie5535
2 жыл бұрын
PLEASE make a video shooting final product. a semi auto shotgun mag fed beats anything with home defense or CQB
@junkemails5050
Жыл бұрын
Hey bro wassup, how it’s being your experience with this gun? Would you say it’s worthy buy it? Iam thinking yet but not sure if i should
@JW52654
2 ай бұрын
The weird thing is probably where the sling is mounted.
@goreone313
Жыл бұрын
I wounder if the vrf barrel and gas tube would fit on to the vr60
@knowshet313
2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video. Just FYI? Putting a pistol brace on that gun does not make it a pistol? It was not sold as a pistol. The only other option is a short barrel shotgun, which requires a tax stamp From ATF in order to be legal? Just trying to keep everyone out of jail? We have to follow the rules, even if they’re silly? God bless.
@joelewis3934
2 ай бұрын
Is it legal to put a vertical foregrip on this thing ?
@Marz-px6vx
Жыл бұрын
Where did you get that folding attachment
@alaele2952
Жыл бұрын
Does this make it into a short barreled shotgun? Since you are modifying the length of the firearm? You can do it but is it legal?
@SaucyNuggs_2313
Жыл бұрын
ATF be licking their lips when they see a brace and foregrip on that thing. So yeah, if you make it "shoulderable" it turns into an NFA sbs
@lettheboysbeboys7058
Жыл бұрын
can you post the info on the buffer tube. can't seem to find it
@richardpelzer2137
8 ай бұрын
Where can I buy this for my VRF14 ?
@gusmunoz9
Жыл бұрын
Where can i order the 9 round mag? can't seem to find it. Thank you for your vid and all the info.
@JFlex76
Жыл бұрын
Palmetto has it
@jimb.8134
Жыл бұрын
although just looked and they are out of stock, so check back later
@TheHonestTruth
2 жыл бұрын
Anotha sick one.......
@dreHoncho
8 ай бұрын
Does the case comes with the Rock Island Vrf14 ??
@joeyd2105
28 күн бұрын
Yes
@pedalfr3ak265
3 ай бұрын
Where can I find the brace stock piece?
@fanetodaforeign1229
2 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the folder from??
@jacobbleeder301
2 жыл бұрын
Help ! What’s the name of the folding adapter/buffer tube ? If you can respond back or maybe on the shoot and review that would put expresso with Carmel on top for me to how it runs
@IAmJohnnySnow
2 жыл бұрын
Here you go this gives you everything images.app.goo.gl/QoPVVnR4N6wYH4Qj7
@johnriddick3500
2 жыл бұрын
I followed the image. I see the adapter but what about the tube?
@IAmJohnnySnow
2 жыл бұрын
@@johnriddick3500 the tube is on the page as well
@johnriddick3500
2 жыл бұрын
I'll have to look again. I just want to make sure I get the right one for it. Have you tried mounting a side grip on it and a drum mag?
@IAmJohnnySnow
2 жыл бұрын
@@johnriddick3500 not yet.
@lonestaroutdoorsman9652
2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the sko shorty from standard manufacturing
@trutexas34
2 жыл бұрын
Who makes the adapter and where did you get it
@davidfoster3425
2 жыл бұрын
where and what's the brand so I can get one
@virgiljohnson4260
Жыл бұрын
watch the video from shotshow where the company owner talks about it and says 'wink wink' you might be able to modify it LOL
@Marz-px6vx
Жыл бұрын
Nevermind found them optics planet
@shanestinnett9744
2 жыл бұрын
Who's the buffer tube from I've got one of these and would love a folding stock
@siri.9923
Жыл бұрын
Mounting Solutions Plus
@CaptDestro
2 жыл бұрын
I had a suspicion that the DLG shotgun buffer tube/folding adapters would fit.
@kissitnow898
Жыл бұрын
I would suggest taking this video down since the ATF dropped the pistol brace rule where hidden in the 292 pages of BS is the text that says any shockwave or other firearm with a brace is automatically considered a short barrel shotgun.
@michaeljoyce4415
7 ай бұрын
the ATF is not a lawmaking branch of government
@tygur23
2 жыл бұрын
Where did the adapter come from sir
@IAmJohnnySnow
2 жыл бұрын
Here you go this gives you everything images.app.goo.gl/QoPVVnR4N6wYH4Qj7
@IAmJohnnySnow
2 жыл бұрын
Hit load more to see the buffer tube
@tygur23
2 жыл бұрын
@@IAmJohnnySnow thankyou so much sir
@Countrylife434
Жыл бұрын
Is putting the brace on legal? I've had mixed answers about this...
@johnfreeze9230
Жыл бұрын
sbr yes yes yes
@27613James
8 ай бұрын
I have a AFG2 on my VRF14.
@famousbigwes9392
7 ай бұрын
What's that?
@iamfresh3005
Жыл бұрын
Yo what’s the one at the top
@jonathancarroll5740
2 жыл бұрын
What adapter is that
@ZZTful
2 жыл бұрын
What is that part ?
@noepena5847
7 ай бұрын
Why does it jam after every shot ..help
@oldskoolj23
11 ай бұрын
Does anybody know if you can put a suppressor on this shotgun?
@gerardplendl7346
Жыл бұрын
what the name of the brace/folder
@shavarmason3254
2 жыл бұрын
love tha VRF14 12 gage, it suit me more than tha kamrad 12ga tha vrf is more comfortable to ma body class.
@papidagunguy
Жыл бұрын
How does it run? And what runs best with it?
@trevonwatson6630
2 жыл бұрын
Could I own this at 19 I’m from nc
@ZZTful
2 жыл бұрын
Man whaaaat ?
@gregjewer4512
Жыл бұрын
Pointless to put that on that gun, not needed!
@jeffreyfales7343
Жыл бұрын
Not that u can't but soon as u do it is a nfa short barrel shot gun. Better send uncle San that 200$ befor they shot your dog.
@virgiljohnson4260
Жыл бұрын
I GAVE UP ON THE FOLDING BRACE IDEA. GOT THREE OF THE FOUR PARTS NEEDED BUT THE TUBE IS OUT OF STOCK FOREVER EVERYWHERE IT SEEMS. LOOKED FOR AN ALTERNATIVE BUT NO LUCK!
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