2:29 Sweet, that's MY store! I have to say that videos like this do no favours for anyone. Portraying the mall as dead and creepy instead of showing what actually IS here - like the multiple isles that ARE full - builds on the narrative of it being dead at the expense of everyone who actually operates a store here. It might appeal to certain people with a morbid fascination in empty spaces, but it might help us out a bit more to come on a weekend and show the collector toy store, the board game store, the Japanese vintage and import video game store, the guy that paints Heavy Metal t-shirts, the British food shop, the card and model shop behind mine, my shop, the soap store across from me, and all those places you DIDN'T show.
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for taking the time to comment and for your feedback. There are some other commenters who have said some of the same things as you have here. I would be extremely interested in doing another video on exactly what you have said - maybe coming on a weekend and talking to some of the vendors. Would you be interested in participating as an interview subject? No pressure at all, but drop me a reply here and hopefully we can set something up.
@MonsterKidCory
Жыл бұрын
@@ProklaimYYC Happily! Ironically I'm not open this coming weekend due to other engagements, but my typical store hours are Thursday and Sunday 1-6 and Friday/Saturday 11-6. Feel free to swing by!
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
Very gracious of you, thanks. I’ll look forward to stopping by in the next week or two.
@Grammarless
Жыл бұрын
It is dead lol, handful of stores in there and a majority typically closed. I’ve visited quite a few times in the last couple of years
@BONGONDORForthewin
Жыл бұрын
Yeah ive been there and live in chestermere it’s full with a nice food court and lot’s of people that are there also very interesting stores
@albertatundra
Жыл бұрын
This mall is a huge success ... for the developers. They took the money and ran with it.
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
The developers no longer seem to have a skin in the game, which is a very different dynamic from the traditional mall business model.
@SeanEpoc
Жыл бұрын
@@dankelly5150 cross iron mills next door is huge and the parkinglot full every day of the week
@garystrankman3841
Жыл бұрын
A Ponzi scheme or something like it.
@samizdatbroadcasts7654
Жыл бұрын
Not unusual for that neck of the woods. Developers in Calgary might as well be issued a crown and sceptre. Too bad. I've been to a mall like this in Toronto and kinda liked it.
@dallassegno
Жыл бұрын
depreciation is a form of value
@sharon4364
Жыл бұрын
Too bad it can't be turned into a medical facility/seniors living facility. Add a few stores and dining/coffee shops for them. Convert part of it into a kind of courtyard that resembles outdoors. Add a fitness spot and a few activity areas. Think of the great indoor walking opportunity. Pity our country or a private company would not take on that project.
@chrismair8161
Жыл бұрын
I think it should be. That is a Big Chunk of nothing.
@brandonmacdonald7802
Жыл бұрын
Its not that easy. Each unit is privately owned. It's not some big corporate entity that can take a buy out. Every owner would have to agree to a sale and most people are just normal folk like you or me who would be taking massive losses on their investments.
@lordjungalee
Жыл бұрын
I like your idea. Me I was thinking of all that ice space, and how many hockey rinks would fit in there
@chrismair8161
Жыл бұрын
@@lordjungalee 5 pads. Kids and Laughter. I'll make some Coffee!
@ladyjade6446
Жыл бұрын
You want to pay even more tax?
@Classicrocker6119
Жыл бұрын
Trying to locate the washroom was insane!
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
That was actually my first stop. I had to walk across the whole mall then up some escalators. They are in a strange location and I could only find one set of washrooms and I walked around for an hour or so.
@zigarten
Жыл бұрын
@@ProklaimYYC Parkade was the other one I believe. Went to the motorcycle show last winter (?) and it was ground level
@Roycebert
Жыл бұрын
Right?? I live 5 minutes from this mall in Airdrie, so it wasn't a hassle for me to check it out, and as empty as this mall is, it was still riddles to try and find a place to take a leak.
@itssaaronn5292
Жыл бұрын
They should turn it into a convention centre, hotels are like a 10 minute bus ride away as well-
@sinny2292
Жыл бұрын
Did you reach out to the news channel and/or individuals that you cut the voice clips from for this video?
@paulcurrie4445
Жыл бұрын
Completely off topic of what the video is about but at the 2min 11secondish mark of the video where the guy is talking in front of the mall outside, there is a streak in the sky on the left side that looks like probably one of the best ufo caught on cameras that I've seen in a while!! Not sure if anyone else picked up on it
@jeffjiang5272
Жыл бұрын
Halo hair is pretty good. I go that mall for haircuts 😂😂
@abfree5501
Жыл бұрын
Would rather shop there than at corporate crap stores.
@innisa
Жыл бұрын
New Horizon Mall sounds like a medical mall
@GEKay-xt2cq
Жыл бұрын
Most spots were purchased by rich foreigners looking to stash their money outside their home countries. They didn't care about renting space out. And the appeal was owning your space. If you just rented, why not rent at Cross Iron, Chinook, etc.? It's a failure as a mall, but successful at laundering money for Chinese billionaires.
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
I wasn’t able to find any hard numbers on who owns the units. But from what I could determine, those listed for sale and for lease seem to be owned by local individuals. In the mall, however, the majority of the empty units don’t have any for sale or for lease signs up. It does raise questions as to what those owners’ plans are for their units.
@shanemathews4177
Жыл бұрын
100
@zigarten
Жыл бұрын
@@ProklaimYYC Speculation may have been part of it, I remember the prices were being asked in the beginning by 3rd parties were stupid. I'm sure many incurred heavy losses.
@harrys5925
Жыл бұрын
Some of the owners might be foreigners but a lot of them are local investors and normal everyday people who wanted to open up their own mom and pop stores
@weili42
Жыл бұрын
You have no idea. Chinese billionaires won’t look at calgary. This is more like money laundering for Canadian weed growers
@tdawg4756
Жыл бұрын
Okay, I’m being 100% serious here…. I’ve lived in Calgary for 11 years now. And this is seriously the 1st time I can remember hearing about this mall.
@c.aleb6
Жыл бұрын
I heard about it but to this day I never went. Who tf wants to go all the way down by Cross iron to see nothing 😂
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
There are a lot of comments here that local residents didn't even know this mall existed. It seems there was a failure somewhere in the marketing plan.
@Chasingcheque
Жыл бұрын
You’ve been under a rock
@mezzyvt701
Жыл бұрын
U live under a rock lol
@tdawg4756
Жыл бұрын
@@mezzyvt701 haha.
@FROMdaHOOD15
Жыл бұрын
I live about 10 minutes from this mall and always assumed it was strange that someone would open a mall right next Cross Iron. Told my wife that it was likely some sort of fraudulent activity. funny to see I wasn't very far off.
@fronts3165
Жыл бұрын
It always seemed like a scam or money laundering scheme. Isn’t the first principal of retail success: location, location, location. I actually couldn’t believe it when I first heard about this project, given that Cross Iron Mills was already there and CMI never actually seemed all that busy the few times I was willing to drive up there only to look around Bass Pro Shop. It’s just another stupid mall, too far for most people and empty to boot. I feel bad for the folks who bet their life savings on it.
@kkate25
Жыл бұрын
You took the works out my mouth. I never been there didn’t even know it existed I been in Calgary for ten year yet, I only been there like 3 or 4 times. It is not easy getting there in public transit. And for what I see in this horizon mall it looks narrowed and boxy. To bad.
@derricklafrance9440
Жыл бұрын
Probably crooked dealings yes. Has to be.
@matf4505
Жыл бұрын
Could be land banking. Buy some retail just outside of city and wait for city limits to expand around you. Then you sell for big $$$$$
@prairietan
Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what it is. Money washing, and a tactical location right beside the airport for chemical warfare under the ccp
@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki
Жыл бұрын
@@matf4505 you're going to be waiting for awhile. stolen money maybe. or laundered. or both.
@ianicus123
Жыл бұрын
It had nothing to do with shoppers not coming, all you have to do is look next door at cross iron to see retail activity is still very high in Calgary. The problem was many and or most of the units were bought by speculators, who turned around and tried to turn a profit on rent. Only problem was they took away a huge part of the incentive of opening up there, and cheaper commercial space was available IN town. Demand never developed from a store operator standpoint, and here we all. There should have been contract items in the purchase agreement that the space was going to be owner occupied and at LEAST a business plan presented, provided it wasn't a larger known entity. The sales people are what killed this mall.
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
I remember Calgary in 2013 and everyone had money, and everyone was looking to invest. The atmosphere was intoxicating - everyone though the good times would go on forever. The sales people probably had a pretty easy time selling.
@MrTobytherat
Жыл бұрын
@@ProklaimYYC I think it's that optimism that it's going to be a success with many factors that support that optimism that make it easy to sell. Completion of Stoney North, 100k+ people living in communities off country hills BLVD, the good economy, heck even proximity to Airdre!! But even with all that, i think what killed it was the emptiness of the mall. I went to the mall earlier in the year and would not go again. Nothing for me there.
@CanCobb
Жыл бұрын
That doesn't make a ton of sense. The shoppers are not there, they are across the "street," aka 500m as a pedestrian and a very inconvenient drive away. Anchor stores attract people into malls, and New Horizon has no anchor stores. Being across the street from a major mall works if you have a brand. New Horizon Mall has no brand, and there's no reason to turn right when everything you need is on the left.
@ianicus123
Жыл бұрын
@@CanCobb if you knew anything about the area, it might make more sense to you, I don't know how else to explain it to you, access is fine, it's literally across an intersection, can from cross iron, the malls are already well outside of people's regular travel patterns, so it's a captive audience, they simply had no stores and the perception of a ghost mall.
@CanCobb
Жыл бұрын
@@ianicus123 Oh I know it super well. To get out of the New Horizon Mall and get back on the highway, one makes no less than 3 left turns at lights that take more than a minute each. Furthermore, that is only to go south on Deerfoot/QEII. If you want to go north, then you must go past all 5 stoplights for the CrossIron Mills Mall area. And it is completely inaccessible for pedestrians.
@Nolegu
Жыл бұрын
Years ago I went to China and went into a few malls there and they seem to have a very warehouse-like or barn-like design, when I was visiting my cousin in Calgary we went to Cross Iron Mills then we wanted to check this place out after out of curiosity and immediately I got this Chinese mall vibe from this place. This place stinks of a money laundering scheme for some very rich people and the 1-2 stores being in there to keep it going.
@Michelala
Жыл бұрын
Pacific mall in Markham (on the Toronto border), the one that inspired this mall is exactly the same. It’s super sketchy. It was even named one of the biggest selling locations of counterfeit and pirated products in the world by a US authority, I forget which one. The cops have raided it sooooo many times it doesn’t even make the news anymore.
@jackl135
Жыл бұрын
Same thing in Aberdeen Centre in Richmond B.C., a lot of the stores in there with high def security cameras and code pads, all the exterior were covered up and you have no clue of what’s happening in there.
@Nolegu
Жыл бұрын
@@jackl135 I've seen the place when I stayed at the Radisson across the street.
@lauriepenner350
Жыл бұрын
@@jackl135 That is a weird-ass mall. The one side is fun and hopping with big anchor tenants and restaurants, but the other building is as empty as New Horizon, which is really weird because the train station connects to the dead side of the building. You have to walk through there to get to the "good" mall, but all that foot traffic doesn't seem to improve business at all.
@DarkPaladin2004
Жыл бұрын
I'm a frequent patron of New Horizon because of Bento Gaming. The interesting thing I've noticed because of that is that stores you'd typically only see at Calgary Comic Expo or Otafest are actually thriving and expanding in New Horizon. A good example of that being Bento Games which now has two stalls for the store and one for card tournaments and the local Gundam model community to meetup. I don't know if it's the be all end all solution to the occupant problem, but I think getting more of these niche stores into New Horizon might be the fix for encouraging growth. I wouldn't be surprised to see a comic shop open up there in the near future.
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
I think that stores like Bento were supposed to be the backbone of the mall. People would make the trip to visit those unique retailers. The issue might have been that in the years it took to build the mall, online shopping really took off and you could essentially get whatever you wanted without leaving your house.
@bruhsanto8836
Жыл бұрын
old video lol, i've been there tons of times. I even get my massages there lol.this place is packed lol
@craigjones7343
Жыл бұрын
@@bruhsanto8836 packed? Are you drunk? Maybe 30% of stalls have anything in them.
@P0rtalgate
Жыл бұрын
@@craigjones7343 today it was honestly super busy, I was only there for bento gaming and the war hammer store. It looks it might be on the turn around just maybe
@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking of opening up my hobby store there, but I only heard stories about how NH is failing. Nice to hear something is happening there.
@imisstoronto3121
Жыл бұрын
I'm from Toronto and I can tell you why it didn't succeed. Lack of population. The one in Toronto is in an area that is largely Chinese, plus the population of the GTA alone is more than the entire population of Alberta.
@robertpalmer7444
Жыл бұрын
I was looking at opening up an outlet here -- once I realized that property developers and speculators purchased most of the stalls i knew the mall would fail. the only way this type of small shop mall works is if the small stalls are owned by individual shop owners who have a vested interest in being there every day. This was a failure of the developers who took the easy way out by selling to speculators.
@gtanutz774
Жыл бұрын
Greed destroyed it. It was supposed to model the one in Ontario. but they sold to realtors and investors instead of store owners. Sad
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
I thing you're right that ideally it would have been sold to retailers. But from the developer's point of view, a sale is a sale.
@Bryan46162
Жыл бұрын
New Horizons is a perfect example of everyone wanting to be the landlord and nobody wanting to be the worker.
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
Speculation on the value of the units is one of the main theories on why the mall hasn't experienced much success so far. It would appear that a number of the investors are now trying their best to rent or sell their units.
@timh1187
Жыл бұрын
This was really bad business. It’s one thing to launder your money. It’s another to just drop bombs and slap everyone and think it will go unnoticed. I was in cross iron yesterday and drove by this place. Whole thing is insane.
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
In some news clips I didn’t include in the video the management staff of the mall would continue to say “We’ve got more stores opening every day!” and “We’re expecting more stores before the end of the week.” Multiple interviews over about four years.
@GrassBuffalo
Жыл бұрын
I told my sister in the U.S. about this mall, it was hard to describe just how hauntingly abandoned it is. Now I have this video to share with her. I have personally been there only one time and it was probably the last time I really want to go there. The general description in this video is extremely accurate, in my humble opinion. Its a fine place to go for a laugh at the hubris and lack of foresight by the developers, but little else.
@skutahuniai4830
Жыл бұрын
The developers did not lack foresight. In fact, I think they were extremely wise. If they were the owners and operators, then yes, they have a massive problem. But they are not! They built the actual building and then SOLD the storefronts. They have their money(presold) and couldn't care less what happens to it. Same thing as residential condos. The developer builds them and then sells them. If you lose your job and can't pay for it, that's between you and your bank. The developer has nothing to do with the matter and is long gone with your money!
@vstrom9586
Жыл бұрын
turn it into a big grow-op --- for vegetables
@donaldbest1295
Жыл бұрын
Great story and presentation with upscale production values for an independent journalist. Loved your description “The empty halls feel like they are haunted by ghosts of dreams that died with the mall’s failure… Every ‘For Lease’ sign is the tombstone of an investor who thought this would be a good place to park their money.” Looking forward to seeing more from you. Are you on any other social media, twitter, facebook etc.? Cheers from Barrie, Ontario.
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the kind words! I spent a lot of time near Barrie when I was growing up before we moved out west - we had a cottage there. I have another video coming up in the next few days in a much more serious topic. I hope you’ll enjoy it! I haven’t been a practising journalist in more than 10 years, so this video was me shaking the rust off and trying to get back in to it a little bit. Again, I’m very glad you enjoyed the video and hope you’ll continue to enjoy my future content.
@MonsterKidCory
Жыл бұрын
Except it's also grossly misrepresenting the mall. If you know it, he conspicuously avoided the full isles, busy stores, and the parking lot on the north side of the building where everyone actually parks. It's an interesting exercise in how even independent journalists present a narrative.
@tomrogers9467
Жыл бұрын
This mall reminds me exactly of a similar disaster in Toronto, “Improve Canada”. A home improvement centre with miles of empty glass cubicles, and the ones that were occupied were appointment only. Similar condo style ownership. Still seems to be in business though. Both these places smell like a laundromat for dirty money.
@JIGgameoverSAW
Жыл бұрын
I've been there for like 20 minutes. (In June 2022) I wanted to leave right away honestly, the vibe was so weird/dead there. Exactly what you saw in the video. I really recommend visiting the Cross Iron Mills mall, it is like a 8 min walk from the New Horizon mall :)
@rokulus7910
Жыл бұрын
Demographics are a factor too. Pacific Mall is surrounded by hundreds of thousands of people of Asian descent, which matters for an Asian style mall. And not only does it have bus stops nearby, but also a train station across the street.
@romanmichaelhamilton8729
Жыл бұрын
So is China taking over all of Western Canada???
@rokulus7910
Жыл бұрын
@@romanmichaelhamilton8729 No.
@ginger_nosoul
Жыл бұрын
Some of those spots are so small they look more like prison cells than a possible store.
@misterslats
Жыл бұрын
Turn it into a hospital to relieve some of the pressure on the city's medical facilities.
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
It would require a lot of investment to redevelop the interior, and it’s doubtful any level of government would be interested in taking that on, all for different reasons, I’m sure.
@tomservo9254
Жыл бұрын
Who would staff it? The pressure on the facilities is because there's too few (burnt out) professionals to meet the demand. Unless more buildings magically make more doctors sprout out of the ground you'll just be building yet another endless triage space to dump patients into.
@joywebster2678
Жыл бұрын
@@tomservo9254 don't forget all of usxwho lost work because we would only test daily, not partake in the Vax crap
@Tropicsca
Жыл бұрын
With a shortage of doctors and nurses?
@gorillaau
Жыл бұрын
@@Tropicsca Other industries have the same crunch. Even if you were to offer 100% scholarship, it's going to be around 10 years before you have competent doctors and nurses popping out into the clinics nd hospitals. The shortage will be generational.
@mdzz182
Жыл бұрын
Lol. This place is not empty, it's actually growing
@ArtofLuba
Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of Art Central (Jubilee Block) in Downtown Calgary. The owner was the landlord, so we didn't own the units, but the churn was high, the rent was high, and people were taken advantage of during a time when lease space availability in Calgary was at an all-time low. Not to mention that artists are easily taken advantage of because we are always looking for opportunities to show our work and/or open little businesses. Excellent public access with the train just next door but bad parking. Management was a nightmare to deal with. Lease rates were outrageous. They were billing some of us for utilities which weren't even metered yet they claimed there was metering. When we moved out, they tried collecting "metered utilities" from the deposit rather than giving us any money back even though the space was cleaned and painted professionally. Half the tenants were behind on rent for years and the rest of us were paying. Favoritism was rampant with some of the tenants paying less than others or not at all. No customers, people walked through the +15 from office to the train without stopping. There are plenty of landlords who take advantage of people in Calgary... Art Central (Jubilee Block) is now the Telus Sky tower.
@Busker_3000
Жыл бұрын
I agree going into that mall is a unique experience. That playground on the top floor is kind of impressive, even with it's critical flaws.
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
The play area had a bunch of customers the day I was there. Obviously I wasn't going to film the play area, but it didn't seem that anyone was sticking around to shop after their kids finished their play time.
@mapofthesoultagme7143
Жыл бұрын
I want to go there but I am 22 and my parents wouldn't let me
@snakemadness1439
Жыл бұрын
Who the heck wants to go to the mall now with all the online ordering there is now. Not including all the shootings and kids running wild in the malls!!! NO THANKS ILL SHOP FROM THE SAFETY OF MY OWN HOME LOL JUST SAYIN
@amsro9094
Жыл бұрын
Pacific Mall in Toronto is pretty much the same building. That place is overflowing.
@jcalm1
Жыл бұрын
Toronto has a larger population than Calgary, thats why. This is like opening Chinook Centre in Milk River, resulting in a lack of support by locals.
@amsro9094
Жыл бұрын
@@jcalm1 I agree, it just amazed me to see the same building nearly empty.
@freetranslate-u8e
Жыл бұрын
This is disgusting. You'll have an empty building doing nothing, yet the homeless are still sleeping out in the cold.
@SilverPaladin
Жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw that the mall had no troubles selling multiple store fronts to investors who wished to turn around and lease the units at a much higher price, I knew the mall would not succeed. If they had wanted success, they would have stipulated that the buyer must have a business occupying the space within 60 days of purchase. No business? you forfeit your space.
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
I suspect the developers couldn’t have cared less whether the stores got filled as long as they all got sold.
@应小姐-e7h
Жыл бұрын
@@ProklaimYYC Dear Proklaim I am a beginner in learning English,could you please explain that this world is you suppose the developers were care more or less about the occupant please 。thank you!
@brucefreadrich1188
Жыл бұрын
@@应小姐-e7h Hi! former ESL teacher here. "Could not care less" is a common idiom to indicate that something is considered trivial, beneath notice, or even contemptable. eg: The kids couldn't care less if we have hamburgers or pizza for dinner. They like both. I couldn't care less about going to my wife's cousin's wedding in Winnipeg. Most sane people couldn't care less about Joe Rogan's vaccination opinions. In this sense the property developer had no interest is the success or failure of the businesses in the mall once all the units were sold. They have already been paid.
@应小姐-e7h
Жыл бұрын
@@brucefreadrich1188 😄So……appreciate your help! You have no idea I spent almost half an hour focusing on this sentence🤣.I thought that it might be the subjunctive for it has“could have done”.Though I know the developer do not care about the situation of the mall I just could not figure out what the sentence express it like that way…And since you mention winnipeg I also in the Winnipeg😁. Thank you so much for being so supportive andwarm-hearted! Best wishes Ying
@brucefreadrich1188
Жыл бұрын
@@应小姐-e7h Aaah thanks. Glad I could help. Every time I do a good deed I have to do something evil to bring the cosmos back into order - So say out loud: "Harry and Larry are in the library in order to repair the water purifier" 😁👅😛😜😝 There… my work is done.
@LoriLynnePringle
Жыл бұрын
First, the volume on your video is really low. You need to improve your audio quality. Second, this seems like you’re out to destroy this mall. It hasn’t filled up, but it does have a fair number of shops. Unfortunately, due to the way they sold the shops, they can’t move them all around to put them closer together, so you have to walk past all the empty ones to get to the open ones. There are some good stores in there. “The Best Store” will interest anyone who likes dollar stores or items from Asia that we don’t see at most places. And there’s a board game store, and there are a bunch of other random stores, several of which have pretty unique items for sale. They have a huge kids’ play castle, which would be of interest to parents who need a break, and right now, they have a Halloween pumpkin show in the parking garage. If yoy had posted this video 2 or 3 years ago, I would likely agree with your assessment, but it really feels like you’re trying to convince people that there’s nothing in New Horizon Mall, and while it’s still struggling, there actually IS enough in there for it to be worthwhile to go have a look.
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback - I appreciate you taking the time to post a long comment. The audio should be better on my next video. My intention wasn’t to encourage or discourage anyone from going to New Horizon. I went to the mall on September 28, 2022 and described my experience. Other people who have visited other days and at other time would have had different experiences; many commenters here have pointed out the mall is busy on weekends. But the fact remains there are a lot of empty stalls, and that has an impact on shoppers’ experiences, my own included. While the mall might appeal to some in its current iteration, the fact that so many of the stalls are vacant, for rent, and for sale suggests there isn’t enough to attract vendors, let alone shoppers.
@LoriLynnePringle
Жыл бұрын
@@ProklaimYYC I definitely agree that they need to do more to attract more vendors, as that will allow them to attract more customers as well. I think that New Horizon Mall does still have a lot of potential. With so much available space in there, I think that businesses would likely be able to make a deal to rent out stalls for a song, and the more of them that get rented out, the more customers it will attract. I don’t go over there all that often, but I do stop periodically to have a look around, and sometimes, I find some really neat stuff. Like there’s a shop that sells the best tea I’ve ever had, and there was an art show there once. I hope that the mall will start doing better.
@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this video. I own a hobby shop in High River and I was thinking for years to open a store in NH, but it always seemed like such a failure. Interesting that it's still so empty now.
@MarkRose1337
Жыл бұрын
If you sell stuff that people will make a drive for it may not be a bad place to have a shop. My last visit there I went to see a specific store, but it was closed. It does have the advantage of being easy to get to by car from the north end of town or the surrounding cities. Expect no foot traffic though.
@brianlacroix822
Жыл бұрын
If your rent is $300 a month and you have customers on the north side why not open one day a week for 4-6 hours? Or one weekend day and one weekday night? The mall is very niche--people don't just go there to walkabout they go there because there is a business that they will follow is there. And if you ship your products to the USA+INT, DYK post is in the building which saves you and your non-Canadian customer HUGE amounts on shipping. If you ship your products and you have a loyal customer base, do it!!! your rent for 2 years is $7200!!!
@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage
Жыл бұрын
@@brianlacroix822 Sounds good if you can guarantee the rent is $300
@MonsterKidCory
Жыл бұрын
@@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage $300 would be around the average rent for one of the 146sq.ft. units. I pay $500 for a 292sq.ft. unit, which is on the lower end for those. The 437sq.ft. units tend to go more for $800-$1000.
@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage
Жыл бұрын
@@MonsterKidCory Seems like small units. i was looking for 750 Sq feet...but anyway...I am in High River Ab. I should plan a trip up to NH Mall and see you.
@justintrudeau2464
Жыл бұрын
Easily turned into an internment camp under the guise of a shopping center..
@rona6063
Жыл бұрын
This place was a huge success if they sold all of the stalls. All thats left is to build the monorail.
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
What’s it called? Monorail. What’s he’s say? Monorail! Monorail…. Monorail.
@Roycebert
Жыл бұрын
I was hoping someone would make a Simpsons reference lol
@Roycebert
Жыл бұрын
There ain't no monorail here and there never was!! *closes shutter of Monorail Cafe*
@NatureXwars
Жыл бұрын
The interior & exterior of the building looks like it should be a recreational/fitness center (like Talisman or Village Square Leisure Centers), offering physical joy in contrast to Cross Iron Mills' more relaxed nature next door; complimenting the area as a bigger hub for people to gather to have fun instead of hopelessly competing against the established mall.
@hcgaunt
Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see someone find a creative use for the space - accessible housing? Community resource hub? You have the individual units and the food court there already. You have bathrooms. Add some public transit options to Calgary and Airdrie, you’re set. It wouldn’t take a whole lot of imagination to make this a valuable space for a lot of people.
@kostiemuirhead8187
Жыл бұрын
It's not valuable space, because it's not accessible space. The use cases you and others propose, while laudable, create more problems than solutions if they aren't accessible by transit or on foot. Those that need affordable housing options or community resources are also the same people least able to drive out to the middle of nowhere.
@hcgaunt
Жыл бұрын
@@kostiemuirhead8187 Exactly - which is why I said there would need to be public transit options implemented. You would really only need a couple busses connecting to pre-existing transit routes. I don’t think that in itself is a reason to rule it out. Yes, it would be further away to access services at this location rather than somewhere within city limits. But - imagine having ONE building to access ALL of the services you might need. Instead of making multiple trips to multiple locations, everything is grouped together. That would be a lot more accessible to me, especially if I could take care of multiple tasks on the same day. Overall, that’s less time spent on transportation, less time off work, less time away from my life trying to get to opposite ends of the city. And speaking of barriers to entry, even if I had to go there on different days, that’s still only one transit route to figure out. If I know where to find a place and I know how to get there, it’s much less daunting than having to learn multiple transit routes.
@stevesmith8484
Жыл бұрын
Pac Mall in Markham has a HUGE Asian population all around it and all over Toronto, You cannot compare them at all.
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
The developers were constantly comparing the two, but they never really pointed out the differences in location, demographics, and overall interest in such a mall.
@McBain403
Жыл бұрын
I prepared drawings for a few of the units and trying to get things approved through the micromanagement of the mall developers was brutal. The rules constantly changed and anything was just up to the whim of a dude named Mel. Was the worst experience I had with a developer in more than 10 years of architecture and design.
@dankelly5150
Жыл бұрын
They should just convert it into a wear house! 🤷🏻♂️
@hugosmith6776
Жыл бұрын
the money laundry gig got too much attention.
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
Definitely after construction that seemed to be one of the more popular theories on how and why the mall got built. The fact the pushed so hard through a massive downturn in Alberta does raise some significant questions.
@joywebster2678
Жыл бұрын
Lease for 300 a month, move people into the empty shoppes, cover the windows with dark paper, and a warm dry place to winter that is affordable!
@YouTubeLate
Жыл бұрын
The day it opened, people described it as looking like one big flea market. The mall’s interior is quite dull. I feel bad for this venture as it would’ve been nice to have an alternative to going to Cross Iron Mills right across. Also quite a waste of space, when this building was being built, I hoped it would be a recreational facility.
@jaredcorreia6903
Жыл бұрын
From the mall developers standpoint the mall was a success as they sold basically all the units before they finished construction to investors or business owners. They no longer have much incentive to keep the mall busy, they delivered on their part of the deal of having the building up and operating. Great business play by the mall developer, they knew it wasn't going to cashflow through operations so they took all the profit at the start and never had to look back. Shifting all the risk to the "investors".
@PrinceHeru
Жыл бұрын
I remember this, been in it. Its got like, 10, maybe 12 stores. Its literally the deadest mall on the planet, and coming from one of the riches cities. Its surprising.
@kostiemuirhead8187
Жыл бұрын
Yep. Allowing speculators to buy everything up killed the entire premise. Buying into a new and interesting location has some appeal, but if I were to want to lease commercial space, I'd want it to be in a location that already had foot traffic and a nearby anchor store or two. I don't feel the least bit bad for the speculators who were actively looking to fleece would be small business operators.
@dallassegno
Жыл бұрын
it's like... some kind of scheme... shaped like... a triangle of some sort. except this box full of nothing had something in it. a money vacuum. shaped like a triangle of some sort.
@VanCityKicks
Жыл бұрын
Same as Aberdeen Square & Landowne Mall in Richmond BC... some small stores and rest are empty units.
@tazz4766
Жыл бұрын
There’s so much they could do with this space and yet it stays empty 4 years later and no one seems to be trying to change it. The price was stupidly expensive from the get-go that didn’t help!
@fueledbyfumes8016
Жыл бұрын
I visit crossiron mills once in awhile and have seen the new horizon mall but I didn’t even know what the building was.
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
There’s no question that the marketing - if there was any to begin with - was a colossal failure. To be fair, however, when you open a giant mall with only nine stores, what are you going to market to potential shoppers?
@naturallyherb
Жыл бұрын
This mall is based on Pacific Mall in Markham ON, just north of Toronto. That was built in the early 1990's on an empty plot of farmland. At the time, only one other mall was in the area, a relatively small one (Market Village, closed 2018). Because of its isolated location, that was often the only choice for people to do shopping nearby, contributing to Pacific Mall being a relatively busy and popular mall. Also, Pacific Mall has been host to a lot of illegal activities, most notably pirated CD's and DVD's for sale; many of those shops were raided by the RCMP and local police departments over the last couple years. Pacific Mall was designed by Hong Kong immigrants, and Hong Kong is a place where a lot of malls have tiny little shops, partly due to the very limited land there, and also the shopping styles there are really different. Unfortunately, when they based New Horizon Mall out of Pacific Mall, CrossIron Mills (essentially a clone of Tsawwassen Mills and Vaughan Mills) was already thriving, and it was a much better shopping environment compared to New Horizon. Furthermore, Canadian malls typically have larger shops because it's how the style and culture of shopping here evolved. As most chain stores and small businesses in Canada prefer larger shops, the tiny little shops in New Horizon simply wouldn't be a good fit for them, and so the result is a nearly dead mall. Also the almost non-existent public transit in that location partly contributed to this as well.
@tomrogers9467
Жыл бұрын
Pacific Mall is known as a centre for cheap counterfeit junk. Police are paid off to leave them alone.
@tempestmkiv
Жыл бұрын
I always wondered what that building was as I drove by... no idea it was a shopping mall!
@stephanielennie14
Жыл бұрын
This is a wonderful video, here's my 2 cents as a local. I've been to this mall a handful of times, everytime in hopes of something to catch my interest, each time has ended in disappointment. The last time I went there was for the farmers market, we were the the hours it said it was open and it was not open. Each time before, the few stalls open are either not, or are filled with stuff you could find on wish for cheaper. The gaming store in the mall is really good, but its not worth it for me to make a trip out there for it when there are already Asian style malls closer to home. I also find some of the stalls that are open are trying to get your business by shouting at you to come in the store, but it feels far too pushy to be inviting. I really feel for the small business owners in here, but I do think it was bought up by greedy investors who didn't give a crap about the stores in it. It's a very sad mall for those involved, but the heated underground parking is very nice.
@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki
Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine what the cost of heating the underground parking would be in the winter in Calgary. And it's a cost that has to be paid by the leasors', owners or not.
@Tiger-gs6xm
Жыл бұрын
I wonder why Alberta has to advertise for people to move there. I wonder why house prices are so cheap. Hint……………..
@LPL1221
Жыл бұрын
They should somehow turn this into a mixture of residential and commercial space instead. Some malls in the states have done it and it’s actually cool.
@owenneale5912
Жыл бұрын
I was hoping thos mall would resemble Dragon Mart in Dubai. Which has almost anything you could ever want from home decor to clothing. But then Dragon Mart built Dragon Mart 2 using the same formula as New Horizon. It FAILED. The condo model is a poor choice for a mall.
@Mightyfish_
Жыл бұрын
I really wanted this store to pop off but it never did. It's very sad. I really do hope some day in the future, it will be a lively location.
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
It has potential, no question. I'm just not sure what would draw crowds. If it were lively and there were a lot of interesting shops it would be a very cool destination.
@jackmorrison8269
Жыл бұрын
Calgary aint Toronto. Looks like a prison not outdoorsish not anything like active culture like most Calgarians are
@kevintennant7701
Жыл бұрын
I went to this mall about 2 years ago when there was one store open. My initial thought was how boring this mall is. Even the interior of the CrossIron Mall is slightly less boring, but the differnce is the Cross Iron Mall has open shops. Also, the Horizon mall gives off a small vendor rip off vibe. The same kind of feeling I get with a used car salesman or a rigged game setup like they have at the stampede. My other thought when seeing the size of the shops was how anyone could fit anything larger than a candy stand in there was beyond me. If you sold anything larger than candy bars, where would you fit a cash register, cleaning supplies, storage or sale merchandise racks? Doomed from the start. Even Farmers market vendors have more individual sales space. Too small and too cold looking. The only thing that might save this place is gutting it and turning it into an indoor amusement park like the WEM has.
@hearhere2165
Жыл бұрын
That is a $20 million barn. It's basically a warehouse without anything of value inside.
@rona6063
Жыл бұрын
Flood the floors, let the Flames play there, looks nicer than the dome.
@boomds5602
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking that too lol it’s probably big enough
@lancepheng
Жыл бұрын
No one wants to drink and take a $100 cab ride back home or down town. No thanks 😅
@bobcaygeon6799
Жыл бұрын
Ha! I was thinking flood the parking lot and rent out ice time for shinnies. Get Tim Horton's, Wendy's, McDonald's and A & W inside and it's on!!! |LOL.
@holt7088
Жыл бұрын
So interesting 🤔 Can anyone explain why Eau Claire mall is a fail for decades. Everything around it flourishes & can’t get a better location. All the condos, high rises & businesses.
@crochet7322
Жыл бұрын
usually a new mall offer free rent or at least 6months free or until over 80% unit is rented out and opened. this is why one managment is important. it fails because they are individuals owner.
@tomservo9254
Жыл бұрын
It's just a flat out bad concept. There's a mall with the same format in Vancouver (Aberdeen Centre?), it's directly attached to a Skytrain station with a conventional mall behind it. The conventional mall has no issues attracting crowds, but the micro-units are a ghost town. A clear majority of them sit empty and even most of the few that are occupied seem to be perpetually closed even on weekends.
@jenniferlarsonjaylaplans
Жыл бұрын
They tried to save it when they first opened by having haunted house at Halloween and other such activities in the parkade but it’s been years since I’ve heard anything about it. The opening was covered and definitely a flop. I’m in Calgary and don’t go that far out of the city just to shop. Plus if there’s only ~9 stores why would you go there unless you were supporting a friends store that was there
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
I believe they are doing the haunted house again this year.
@gregisaacs7546
Жыл бұрын
So in the west, we rent or own business space to make cash. In China, they can't invest in as many things as we can. So if you're rich, real estate is the way to go. However, in China, real estate is worth more if the property is unfinished. No need to clean up after a previous owner or Tennant. Just skip that part and go straight to renovation. This is why China has ghost cities filled with empty condos. My opinion is that any property proposal from China should be ignored. Real estate or commercial. The rich seek to make a return on investment instead of using a space for living (housing) or for commerce (commercial schemes).
@whatthepick
Жыл бұрын
It's haunted that said for $500 a month and six months free ... (or $300) 3:47 Anyone who wants to gamble on an idea may have a maker space or a personalized youtube studio :) Next time I visit cross Iron maybe i'll trek over to experience it lol
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
I went in with an open mind and my intention was to make a more lighthearted bit of content, but as soon as I walked in the doors there was a sense of foreboding I couldn’t shake. As I said in the video, it’s uncomfortable to be in there.
@TheMiccoliGroup
Жыл бұрын
Don't be delusional, read the comment I posted about my experience as a tenant. You will get robbed and harassed.
@whatthepick
Жыл бұрын
@@TheMiccoliGroup I don't see your comment ? Care to explain
@whatthepick
Жыл бұрын
@@ProklaimYYC Ya I passed it a few times but have never stepped in ... that said I believe it if you say spooky no security?
@TheMiccoliGroup
Жыл бұрын
My comment was flagged and deleted. I was a tenant and my landlord was an owner. Incompetent board hired corrupt management company that hired G4S security who's emploees have been historically involved in multiple mass shootings (including Edmonton, Alberta and killed a family friend and Orlando, Florida). I learned about 4 major robberies at that mall including my small bus was broken into and I was robbed. Yet nobody sees or knows anything. When I asked for a report and video my landlord said the management company called him and told him to get rid of me or he gets locked out. This was the last straw after being repeatedly harassed, intimidated, bullied, stalked and told they havevideos of me. I have picture evidence of this. I was one of the few female business owners. During the pandemic with no traffic and closures. If you think you have a forboding something is not right... that's because the remaining tenants are plotting their escape. Tenants were moving out while I was moving in and then I was moving out too (keep in mind my rent had been paid on time. When the landlord told me the pressure he had to get rid of me by management, I took the opportunity. As for G4S security just Google G4S and the word "arrested" or the words "mass shooting".
@thisspacenotforrent
Жыл бұрын
Pacific Mall works in Toronto (actually it is in Markham on the border of Toronto) as you can get just about anything and everything illegal you want there (counter-fit everything...) ...it is in the middle of a bunch of middle class neighbourhoods, and it caters to the SE Asian community who heavily populate the residential areas around the mall. The stores there offer a lot of items you cannot get at other places in the NE Toronto area (for the most part)...when I use to visit the mall 10 to 20 years ago, I use to go as there were a few food places both in the mall and in the adjoining plaza that were so unique and so good (Mongolian Grill for instance (now closed) had amazing, tasty food and a very unique cooking experience)...I actually use to drive out of my way to go there as it was somewhat close to a major highway (a few kms south of the 407 - also a few kms north of the 401 though 401 is more a perpetual construction parking lot than hwy...)...New Horizons has NO residential around it, nothing to draw people to the mall from Calgary...it really needs some unique food places for people to start showing up IMO for starters...
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
The location of New Horizon couldn’t be more different then Pacific Mall. I’m not sure even unique food offerings would drive more traffic. The food scene in Calgary has been very hot the last few years, but people tend to go downtown, not out of town, to eat out.
@beginnerplox
Жыл бұрын
@@ProklaimYYC Pacific mall isnt even doing that well anymore tbh. It's a glorified cellphone case mall with multiple store fronts owned by one guy.
@MarkRose1337
Жыл бұрын
@@ProklaimYYC I agree. The only kind of restaurant that would work there is something catering to shoppers who are already there or people who work in the area. If you're going out of your way to a restaurant, you want something more than a food court experience.
@tomrogers9467
Жыл бұрын
@@beginnerplox but it’s a good place to buy a $100 Lois Vuitton purse, or a $75 Canada Goose coat! Can you say “counterfeit”! Police must be paid off not to raid the place.
@wiegraf9009
Жыл бұрын
@@ProklaimYYC The food scene in Calgary is still pretty sad. If we could get an Asian style hawker center somewhere in town that would be awesome.
@Kitchguy
Жыл бұрын
The design is horrible. It's cold and clinical. A mall has to have colour, personality etc.
@thevinmeister5015
Жыл бұрын
They based themselves off of the Pacific Mall in Markham which was starting to die when they started building this one.
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
In other news footage, the developer said it took about two years to fill the Pacific Mall with vendors. Are there vacant storefronts there? I'm curious to know if the business model was a success giving the different circumstances.
@my2iu
Жыл бұрын
@@ProklaimYYC the Pacific Mall is in a thriving Chinese district in Toronto. Culturally, many of the locals like opening small businesses and they like owning their own real estate, so the Pacific Mall model is a perfect fit (why rent, only for the owner to jack up the rents when times are good, taking all your profits?) Plus, everyone in the city knows that if you need to get weird Chinese stuff, you can probably find it at Pacific Mall, so it has a large catchment area. Obviously, things aren’t as great there currently due to the pandemic and the poorly planned construction projects of Metrolinx. Like, it was already a pain to drive out there and very difficult to find parking, deciding to sink the road and do funny stuff with the routing wasn’t helping things. I imagine things will revive once they start approving giant condo projects in the area to take advantage of the more frequent commuter train line that is starting nearby. I’m not sure if Calgary has a large enough ethnic population who aren’t being adequately served by traditional Canadian malls, which is what allows alternative malls to exist. Like, there are a few T&T supermarkets in Calgary, so maybe? But those T&T supermarkets aren’t near New Horizon mall. Also, I’m not sure if Calgarians are okay with the idea of an entire mall that’s not intended to appeal to westerners at all. Even if New Horizon mall were thriving, it’s assumed that normal Calgarians would never go there.
@mumble_jumbo
Жыл бұрын
Wow, the store sizes, tiling, decoration are like a tad bit above Pacific Mall in Toronto. 20 years later, Pacific mall floor tiles are all busted, ceiling dripping with water stains and dead full of nail salons, even the ceiling frame work is down to the bone basic like New Horizon mall.
@crush42mash6
Жыл бұрын
They should probably do an Amazon store that sells returns that’ll get people in there
@danielcain1003
Жыл бұрын
It doesn't look very shopper friendly. You'd need a map to find what you're looking for.
@CrispyPoouhhh
Жыл бұрын
I remember walking in there and thinking it was one of the most miserable places I had been in.
@JIGgameoverSAW
Жыл бұрын
FR! Same
@digitalbilly
Жыл бұрын
bulding a asian mall outside of chinatown or international Avenue... hahaha fools
@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki
Жыл бұрын
The base consumer population of Calgary is in the deep SW and NW area of the city. This mall is in the top North East, no where near consumers and their huge SUV's and large tanks of gas. Even for Alberta this is just nuts.
@danq.5140
Жыл бұрын
I read about this mall a few years ago but didn't know it's all the way up in Balzac. There was nothing in the NE when I lived on 26th Ave SW from 1996-2000.
@nickskier1
Жыл бұрын
Well yes it’s a bit further from the main consumer spending residential areas, cross iron mills does just fine right next door. People are willing to travel a little bit further if the stores are worth it
@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki
Жыл бұрын
@@danq.5140 The only thing I know in Balzac was the bull market A. I. centre (artificial insemination collection)!!!
@lorettal8720
Жыл бұрын
There is no consistancy if venders hours I can show up today and some are closed and tomorow open .Too unprdictable.Venders shoud have to be there daily and regular hiurs.Its a long drive ti get there and find stores clised
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
I did notice there were very sporadic operating hours for some of the shops while I was there. I also saw shops that were open with signs on the door saying to text the owner and they would show up in 10-15 minutes. I doubt casual browsers would go to that effort.
@brahmincalgary9239
Жыл бұрын
Last 2 years with covid and lock downs didn't help the mall as well. Mall lost two years to maybe turn things around.
@TheMiccoliGroup
Жыл бұрын
Can't blame covid for bad management.
@420technique420
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure this is some Chinese mall, at least that's why I have never even considered going there. Plus a better mall is literally across the street.
@vincentlussier8264
Жыл бұрын
The whole idea behind the mall was to draw local consumers together to shop, eat, and socialize back in the 1950's. It worked back then up untill the 2000's when things started to change. People aren't shopping like they used to be. Shopping on line from Ebay and Amazon and other on line distributors are the fastest growing as more and more people shop on line and it has taken place of driving to crowded shopping malls, cost of gas and public transport fares to get there not to mention the hanging around the bus depot to get home! Convenience has taken place of the bullshit consumers don't have to go through anymore! So trying to figure out what happened to the mall isn't rocket science and these stupid ass developers can't make consumers go back to mall shopping no matter what ideas they put on paper!
@prairietan
Жыл бұрын
This mall serves to allow the Ccp to send there sex slaves and drugs easily to the Prairies
@ampex189
Жыл бұрын
It's a traditional Chinese mall design. I remember seeing those in Beijing in the early 2000's. I also worked on one (Aberdeen Square) in Richmond BC where there's a large Chinese population (53% of the city). If this had been built closer to a Chinese population centre, it would probably do much better.
@AntonSander
Жыл бұрын
I WANT A BLOODY RACETRACK HERE, NOT ANOTHER STUPID MALL.
@FAIRWEATHER_MUSIC
Жыл бұрын
we have corrupt politicians giving contracts to developers who want to build things and make money... Calgary is Canada's New Jersey
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
I wasn’t able to find any information on the amount of government subsidies and grants this project received, but I’m sure it received some sort of assistance.
@solice8844
Жыл бұрын
So much for the old saying “Build It and They Will Come”.
@AshleeCastor
Жыл бұрын
I’ve lived in Calgary for 13 years.....never even heard of this mall..
@isaiahlancer152
Жыл бұрын
Same, first time hearing of it
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
My guess is they planned to have a huge marketing push as tenants started to occupy the units. When they realized that wasn’t happening, they just never advertised it at all. Add to that there were no anchor stores when they opened, and so there was no buzz and no one was talking about it.
@Roycebert
Жыл бұрын
Only reason I knew of it was because I live in Airdrie. And EVERY time I drive passed the mall on the highway, I can count on one hand how many cars in the parking lot I can see.
@InTecknicolour
Жыл бұрын
i'm from toronto and I've been to pacific mall, which new horizons is based on. it's gotten pretty dead in the last 5 years or so, even before covid. it's all cell phone accessories, snack food/drinks and clothing stores. this concept of individually owned tiny little shops just isn't conducive to any other type of business.
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
I wondered if that perception of Pacific Mall contributed to the negative opinion of New Horizon. As I mentioned in the video, the top Reddit comment was ‘Brick and mortar wish.com’. Perhaps shoppers thought that the stores would be full of low-quality mass-produced merchandise.
@TMBpk
Жыл бұрын
There’s literally no parking available on the weekends…lol. Pacific Mall was over capacity before I’d say…
@InTecknicolour
Жыл бұрын
@@TMBpk there's no parking because they destroyed half the parking spaces due to construction. which has been ongoing for......3-5 years.
@johncheresna
Жыл бұрын
Never made any sence to me. Edit. It is a giant flea market in the middle of nowhere.
@christophermelo275
Жыл бұрын
I go to this mall on a regular basis and it's never as "empty" as this guy makes it out to be. Sky Castle on the 2nd floor is a fantastic play place for kids that is always super busy. Shops like TFToys and Bento are doing great. On the weekends in the centre of the mall there are events / seminars that's have tons of people attend. Way to cut/edit your filming to make the place appear abandoned when you appear to have only shown one of the 4 areas to park, the one no one uses on the west. The south & east side are always a quarter to half full & the parade is always half full. Biased reporting to fit a narrative...
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback. I was there on a weekday morning, just after the mall opened at 11 a.m., and I stayed until about 12:30 pm. Many of the other comments indicate that the mall is busier on weekends, and that may be the case but I can't say - I have never been there on a weekend. I also understand that the kids' play area is also very popular and draws a lot of traffic to the mall, but I'm obviously not going to film the play area. There are shots from both parking lots - the one that faces the back where I did the on-camera shots with the mall in the background on a different weekday than I filmed the inside, and the title card, which was taken from the front parking lot that faces Hwy. 2 on the same day as I filmed the interior. Both days the parking lots I was in were relatively empty. To be clear, I am in no way rooting for this mall to fail. Quite the opposite - I want people who have purchased units to succeed. The purpose of this video wasn't to create a narrative of "ha ha look at this empty mall!" I had heard about the mall, and I went to get my own impressions. My video is an explanation of the impressions I got from the mall, and my thoughts on why it's in the position it's in. No pre-determined narrative or agenda was intended, and if that's what came across, I'll be mindful of that in my next video. Again, thanks for watching and taking the time to write the comment. I sincerely appreciate the feedback.
@harvirathwal4491
Жыл бұрын
when i went there it looked exactly how this guy filmed it was dead
@mwatson251
Жыл бұрын
@@ProklaimYYC weekends maybe ...try going on Wednesday at 6pm....completely dead..or like he said a few shops open. Lift kings has been going on for a few seasons now and that mall hassnt gained anything.
@tonystevenson5125
Жыл бұрын
Maybe you or the maker of this Video can make another video of the peek times on weekends?? Maybe New Horizon can show Updated videos of how things are improving, etc. Regular, Updated promotional videos might bring people in. No regular promotion and people forget very quickly that New Horizon even exists.
@toxic_tacoo4666
Жыл бұрын
Change it to a water park or indoor amusement park, it’s useless as it stands
@bryancampbell9622
Жыл бұрын
On a positive note, the most successful tenant is Sky Castle on the second floor. You can find tons of videos of kids having a blast in the large play area.
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
Some comments on the Reddit thread I referenced in the video say Sky Castle is amazing, and when I was there it did look like it might be amazing for little ones.
@Roycebert
Жыл бұрын
My kids loved it haha it's pretty epic, I'll give it that. Expensive, but it'll wear three kids out for dern sure.
@raywest7810
Жыл бұрын
Tear it down..it's a waste of time, money & a dead hulk..
@republic_738
Жыл бұрын
Over 50% of the stalls are open now, so it’s getting more popular. It gets pretty busy during the weekend because of the indoor playground. I like the mall, and I don’t find it depressing at all
@sakalaath
Жыл бұрын
It's awesome to see a 400 sub youtube channel get 150k views about Calgary.
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
I can promise you no one was more surprised than I was 😂
@bigbertha4080
Жыл бұрын
A hospital/ senior complex as mentioned by someone else seems like the most logical choice. This could have been used during covid.
@10N1Z3D
Жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd see a liminal space in broad daylight, let alone so close to home.
@spartan3294
Жыл бұрын
To think all this wasted money could have been used for something necessary, like a new sporting arena to replace the saddledome
@ProklaimYYC
Жыл бұрын
As far as I could tell, this was built with private money. I'm sure the Rocky View County and Balzac tossed some tax incentives their way, but in terms of the construction and maintenance, I believe it was all privately funded.
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