Increased Lethality from this new program? See how training has changed over the last 25 years - kzitem.info/news/bejne/mWaem4SaiYijm3Y. Don't forget EMMA from Army's social statement - kzitem.info/news/bejne/0p6Ar3mfe3V5Z2k. The real question, is the Marine Corps leadership up for a new battle space -kzitem.info/news/bejne/uKWuzZyijmSHgY4.
@digitaldreamer5481
3 жыл бұрын
There was one important piece of information missing from these interviews since we are talking about the areas around the South China Sea that I was looking for in the video and changing the type of training these Infantry units will be going through in ITB. That is whether the US Marine Corps will bring back the two very important schools that I went through in Panama and the Philippines back in the Marines. Those were the Jungle Warfare School in Panama and the J.E.S.T. Training School in the Philippines, which stands for Jungle Environmental Survival Training. Where you learn about vines and trees as a source of naturally filtered drinking water and the trees with 2-2-1 leaves that coagulates the blood for very deep cuts and other important survival techniques. If our next battles or wars are going to be in jungle type environments, these young Marines must be properly trained for it too. Semper Fi
@andrabook8758
3 жыл бұрын
'higher aptitude for success" LMAO!!! yeahh....i guess that must mean they're less likely to get blown up....like there's a strong BS cover which repels fire at all times........we're all gonna die
@andrabook8758
3 жыл бұрын
everything I hated about higher learning/university ---> all right here.
@andrabook8758
3 жыл бұрын
"don't lower the bar" -- you like what he just said but it's all crap.
@andrabook8758
3 жыл бұрын
Everything I hated about university. Everything is right here. Just wait until you all finally realize what that jargon really means. I'm both amuzed and horrified.
@lukea.907
3 жыл бұрын
These officers are great at talking a lot but not saying anything... truly a skill to behold.
@olherb9633
3 жыл бұрын
It's really about just, you know, going back to the fundamentals so when they get to the fleet they can do more...things
@oscar.esteves
3 жыл бұрын
@@olherb9633 I agree 100%. Fundamentals are everything, having a solid foundation will make a huge difference in order to allow these Marines in the fleet to be able to do more things... in the fleet.
@tdgdbs1
3 жыл бұрын
Any 04 and above are politicians; not align with whoever at the WH and you're just as good as retired. The only exceptions are the aviators, you can fly as long as you pass physical up to 06
@krane15
3 жыл бұрын
It would behoove you to learn it, and learn it well. Especially since it will carry you through for a lifetime. Whatever job you choose to do.
@reapordeath
3 жыл бұрын
@@krane15 all the more reason to keep your mouth closed and let the talkers talk and you'll get through most any job. Just take notes when people talk about how they just repeat themselves to continue reiterating their point with different words lol People are stupid. They will accept bullshit answers as long as it doesn't SOUND misleading. Often times just repeating yourself using different words or rearranging them is enough to keep them quiet and convince them.
@hollandahern3585
3 жыл бұрын
Anytime I hear the word “diverse” anymore, I immediately sigh out loud
@felixrodriguez7423
3 жыл бұрын
Unity should be the goal, NOT diversity! A hyphenated Marine is a less lethal Marine. Terrorists don't care what pro guns people use.
@MidMo4020
2 жыл бұрын
Me too, brother…
@bdan6954
2 жыл бұрын
We got a white guy, a black guy, a brown guy, a deaf guy, a blind guy, a gay guy, and a guy with no arms.
@benadams5557
2 жыл бұрын
My last CO in the army told me that multigenerational military families are what's wrong with our military and that we need all new diverse blood
@PewPewFig
2 жыл бұрын
It should be replaced by the word "competent"
@Tommy1977777
3 жыл бұрын
the emphasis is placed on how wars will be fought without overlapping with the Army too much while transforming into a more , true "Elite" force.
@JamesonsTravels
3 жыл бұрын
agree. way to much army overlap. we became a less funded version of the army.
@fredcollins8919
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Better said, even more elite & versatile than what USMC Infantry already are.....Amen to that!
@G.IKendall
3 жыл бұрын
Yep the had the basically the same missions as army in Afghanistan.
@iltonnotattico6231
3 жыл бұрын
Imo, they need still need to be prepared for some overlap with the army, ex: new georgia campaign. In the event of a war with China, I could see a joint campaign being fought in Taiwan
@fredcollins8919
3 жыл бұрын
@@G.IKendall Agreed. Fortunately for us most places in the world, both hotspots (past & present & possibly future) are NO WHERE near as bad (in countless ways) as Afghanistan (or Vietnam 1959-1975). Varies widely of course by region/culture/enemy. As the worlds only real remaining technological/military superpower, We (USA) along with our priceless beloved European (UK, France, Italy, Holland) allies & Asian allies & those in Latin America (our beloved, sacred backyard (which weve foolishly neglected for too long (but not anymore)), we WILL & MUST improve US & Allied military capabilities in every way, Sea Air & especially Land (ground combat forces & Special Forces) & paramilitary forces in order to fight & survive & quickly defeat China, North Korea, Iran Venezuela, Nicaragua Nigeria Syria and/or ANY other current & potential "contenders". Our superb training & weapons must & WILL be constantly sharpened, strengthened & uograded no matter what. The American people & people of the world expect no less of us & we shall not disappoint. Cheers!!!
@malachor5ve
3 жыл бұрын
11 years and counting veteran here, and the new recruits coming out of boot camp are more intelligent on average I'd say but* on average they also have very little discipline and no respect for authority.
@brianharris4275
2 жыл бұрын
They seem to be a little chubby ?
@Dont_Tread_on_Me448
2 жыл бұрын
@@brianharris4275 a little ?? Lol
@이용현-z3j
3 жыл бұрын
1.mental training: amplified hostility 2.physical training 3,official' leadership. Above thing is a necessary condition for victory in the fight. 🌻
@gentleman4691
2 жыл бұрын
@Scythian Lancer so you don't need to be strong, enduring, confident/capable of doing your job under pressure, or have good leadership?
@jchandler3225
3 жыл бұрын
I think training is a good idea as long as it hits the key points don't waste time and money if you're not going to train them anything new or anything is not going to help them
@JamesonsTravels
3 жыл бұрын
I like the idea just don’t focus to much on tech.
@thetruewinner8038
3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesonsTravels agreed tech is only as good as it’s programmer. Not always reliable
@Joshua_N-A
3 жыл бұрын
Tech is only there to help, not to replace. Too much reliance would be a weakness rather than strength as the world today is more networked than 4 decades ago. Also be sure of who are the contractors that supply the tech. Once the enemy knows what makes your forces look unbeatable, they'll be try to take it away from you, rendering you powerless.
@stevecomstock3563
3 жыл бұрын
Why does it matter anymore if our kids get good training. Our "leadership" will just quit anything in which we engage ourselves.
@felixrodriguez7423
3 жыл бұрын
All that matters is are Marines more lethal and more survivable on the battlefield with this new training.
@isaacsweilem9655
3 жыл бұрын
I think it makes sense: a smaller, more specialized, independent force able to engage in missions without the need for constant overlap with the army would do the marines much better.
@joeporter4616
3 жыл бұрын
We had a lot of stress fractures or shin splints at about the 2/3rd way through Infantry Training. We had one guy get them so bad he simply couldn't function anymore. Whenever you increase the time load, you need to carefully monitor the effects on the human body. A lot of Old Timers might think thats BS, but it's not always something you can suck up to make it better.
@katy9291
3 жыл бұрын
I hope you will continue watching the Danish huntsmen corps aswell. This was very interesting, i have a lot of respect for the marines.
@JamesonsTravels
3 жыл бұрын
I am going to work on it this weekend. I am on it!
@dennis350
3 жыл бұрын
While I was in Nam 67-69, I would incorporate training inside the wire and outside the wire. This was much more effective for all including the FNG. Made a better killing machine with less loss of life. Semper-Fi, go with God.
@austin0351
3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Marines at infantry training actually getting experience in helo and amphibious operations, especially if we are trying to shift our focus away from "mini-big army" mode. I don't know about SOI west but east coast on Gieger we humped through MCAS New River literally everytime we headed out to the field. Why couldn't we also be stepping over to link up with birds doing their regular daily flying and get actual hands on training there. Between the additional time now and the chance for the air wingers to do more than just do circles around Lejuene to get their flight hours it seems like a win-win to me. Maybe bus a training company over to courthouse Bay every few weeks to do cross training with an AAV company so every Marine goes to the fleet with at least some familiarization with the whole spectrum of operations.
@Joeglovers
3 жыл бұрын
My son is in marine training now . He wants to make it a career i couldn't be more proud of him.
@PhysifistEngineering
3 жыл бұрын
@@WeAllWeGot333 somebody wasn't allowed into the military, lol
@PhysifistEngineering
3 жыл бұрын
@@WeAllWeGot333 I said the military, not the Navy.
@BigTomInTheBasement
3 жыл бұрын
@@WeAllWeGot333 In any case, I hope that Mr Biden doesn't push the USA into an internal conflict. The older generations may not be fast but they don't have to be in a domestic conflict. They don't have to fight fair either.
@PhysifistEngineering
3 жыл бұрын
@@WeAllWeGot333 That's because sailors always hang out with their kind....friends are always a reflection of one's self, lol.
@PhysifistEngineering
3 жыл бұрын
@@WeAllWeGot333 I did. I just don't need to post my DD214 on KZitem for the world's approval. It's pretty obvious you're really insecure about the work you did in the Navy or this wouldn't be upsetting you so much.
@mishakeller3788
3 жыл бұрын
Just graduated the second cycle of IMC, very pleased with the caliber of training and the way we were taught by the instructors in Alpha Co. I would say it’s a step up from the “legacy” 9 week program. I’m eager to see how the school will evolve with more cycles and training becomes more streamlined.
@ryanspeckert3984
2 жыл бұрын
I’m about to start the second to last cycle before they go back to ITB for a while
@camorlandis8201
3 жыл бұрын
Well from my experience we have about 12 imc marines in a squad together basically to see what their skill sets are and how they operate strictly off commanders intent , which they implemented in the new imc course , and it’s been proven that it’s increased the level of proficiency in multiple aspects of training, they aren’t robotic and timid like years before , it actually makes training younger marines a lot easier and makes the unit more efficient as a whole , so that’s what I got from it so far with actually working side by side with the imc guys
@gordo3697
3 жыл бұрын
How many guys are still Iraq and Afghanistan veterans? It used to be dam near 80 percent and the other 20 were boots I think all the wars and the violence maybe had a higher degree of hazing and your not worthy yet kind of mentality
@ivorypoacherplays
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been living in Canada for 2 years as a student from America and I show your videos and Odin videos to people up here who don’t really understand the current political climate. 👍🏻👍🏻
@JamesonsTravels
3 жыл бұрын
thanks MineHunter. Enjoy your time aboard. Fun to learn new cultures and Canada is fun to explore.
@ivorypoacherplays
3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesonsTravels thank you! Love the channel!
@Kevinfromhtown
3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesonsTravels can you do a video of your backstory and how you got the place where your at now?
@alphaomega3766
3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesonsTravels Canada is quickly becoming a dumpster fire. We have a rainbow army up here now that spend weeks learning political correctness.
@GySGTGerman
3 жыл бұрын
Everyday the Corps strays away from Emma Army is another day this Marine is proud!!! 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲 SPIRITUS INVICTUS 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
@bma308
2 жыл бұрын
I’m proud they are making some changes. I believe the extra training will give a better foundation for new Marine’s. I’d want my Marine son and his fellow Marine’s to get all the training and experience they could.
@SlimeSquare
2 жыл бұрын
I went through ITB and MARSOC selection in 2007, followed by two combat deployments to Helmand with 3/8. From what I've seen of IMC, these Devils are not only better trained than we were, but the Marine Corps also seems intent on increasing infantry mental and physical readiness and capability for three reasons: 1) increase the lethality and autonomy of the Marine infantry squad 2) operate more effectively in support of Special Forces attachments out of the gate 3) significantly better infantry Marine candidates for STA, RECON, and RAIDERS selection means decreasing the washout rate without decreasing the standards. To the last point, this is evident in the fact that Marines going through IMC now have to pass a new physical assessment test similar in difficulty to the Ranger RPAT and a step below the RECON RPAT. I wouldn't want to fight the Marines coming out of the new training pipeline, that's for sure.
@fsarfino
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely jealous of the gear from the improved boots to the optics used. When I went though SOI 0331 in 92' we only used optics on 2 brief range trips, had Vietnam era jungle boots & still used shelter half's
@mattschmitt145
2 жыл бұрын
Me too in 94’ our boots were 1960’s technology!
@RainyCloudCore
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the boots today are seriously nice. The new danner reckonings were getting sold out on every base from how popular they were back in 2018
@alexd6557
2 жыл бұрын
i used shelter halves in missouri in winter if 2013-2014. i would fucking desert if i actually had to use those dumb fucking things in combat /s
@dylanhicks7996
3 жыл бұрын
I like that the Marine Corps is still finding better ways to teach their new Marines and fleet to KILL BETTER and BLOW STUFF UP BETTER. That's what the Corps is here for, Semper Fi Marines, Kill.
@JamesonsTravels
3 жыл бұрын
exactly, the big green machine keeps on moving.
@dylanhicks7996
3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesonsTravels Yes sir.
@OLDSKOOLRAVER1
3 жыл бұрын
Teaching them to run faster in retreat.
@iltonnotattico6231
3 жыл бұрын
Kill stuff more deader
@marcuse7261
3 жыл бұрын
@@OLDSKOOLRAVER1 Retreat?, like hell Marines never retreat
@ORIGINALCRESTED
2 жыл бұрын
I joined the Marine Corps in 2003. My dad was in the Army. His dad was in the Army. I can admit that at least in my bloodline, I came more intelligent, more well trained, and more prepared than previous generations and I am actively training the next generation to do better than I did.
@garyhomanick6129
3 жыл бұрын
“That’s a hell of a price to pay for being stylish…” ~ Dirty Harry
@greenmarine5
3 жыл бұрын
Couple of my friends I served with that stayed in and retired 3 years ago said that most of the Marines that come out of boot camp are much more ready and prepared than we were back in the late 80's. They said they are physically ready before boot camp and with the, No GED acceptance the Marine Corp has (unless you have a written request from a senator) Marines that are better prepared mentally on a technical side of things. My buddies told me they are smarter with their diet, exercise and simply how they conduct them self.
@joeswinsick8977
3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear all of that. I was in from '75 to '78 and there were a few recruits in boot camp to nullify a jail sentence and had very checkered backgrounds and character. I think the extra training is a truly magnificent idea too; as long as it is 'quality' training. In the USMC and my entire working career 'management' loved to let you 'fire a few rounds through a .50 cal' and call it good. They'll still be the awkward FNG's when they get to the fleet but they'll get up to speed much quicker.
@greenmarine5
3 жыл бұрын
@@joeswinsick8977 yup that went on until the late 80's any Marine is no stranger to,... I'm here because it was the Marines or Jail time,. very old news brother... moving on. Do you Marines know nothing About History? WTF.. One Woman in the Old Testament in the Bible took down nations because of her deceitfulness. I'm just saying harness that power for the greater good :-)
@MurseSamson
2 жыл бұрын
My ASVAB was 98, and tbh I never even picked up a FPS game before signing up. 🤷♂️ Kids are definitely different these days. I don't relate anymore, and the physical fitness & mentality is MUCH different, than even 20 years back. Will look forward to seeing if the engagements match the phrasing. Something tells me, the psych's are guiding the process and I'm thinking they might be on the ball.
@SemperSometimesProductions
3 жыл бұрын
I’ll be honest based on my experience with “gen z marines” a lot of them join for reasons of vanity. They wanna be infantry by name not by trade, but that was just my experience at my unit i can’t speak for all the other units out there.
@returnfreedom
3 жыл бұрын
I agree, I was in from 2007-2012 2/4 echo. We still had those vanity marines, but the new one I have met are all about "looking good" and IG clout. Garbage.
@lcplshmuckatelli1360
3 жыл бұрын
Yea the tick tock generation, so fucking embarrassing it’s depressing.
@lcplshmuckatelli1360
3 жыл бұрын
Yea the tick tock generation, so fucking embarrassing it’s depressing.
@Cypher84X
3 жыл бұрын
@@returnfreedom social media should be banned. I fucking hate it. Downfall of society. Soldiers should not be allowed to have sm accounts
@returnfreedom
3 жыл бұрын
@@Cypher84X if there is anything I could agree on it would be this. I am not for mandating medical procedures or anything related to the body, but these social media pages are known to sell info, china is invested in many of them so they should be banned. Period.
@jackhampton2062
3 жыл бұрын
I guess generations change so the Corp feels they need to change the training to be able to relate. This video is refreshing to see if for no other reason then they aren't focused on what type of pee pee the recruit thinks they have. As always, thanks for the advanced screening, JT.
@JamesonsTravels
3 жыл бұрын
I was very encouraged by the training. more time on a weapon system the better. looked very well thought out.
@ilikecars-js
3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesonsTravels good videos
@andrabook8758
3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesonsTravels 3 days? that's an improvement? LMAO. cannon fodder
@andrabook8758
3 жыл бұрын
im gonna translate the jargon for you guys and in a little while we'll see if i'm right: they're trying to make sure that everyone has a lot of ''diversity" of skills and then they're gonna all contribute to the intersectionality of operations equality and get concensus on battle plans --- aka, a bunch of kids sitting in a group argueing until they get blown up.
@BigTomInTheBasement
3 жыл бұрын
@@andrabook8758 They look pretty locked in for kids a few weeks out of boot. It doesn't take long to get proficient with a weapon system if one is performing focused training for a few days on the same equipment. They aren't headed out to a fight right now, so they'll get more training when in the FMF.
@TJ4AUSA
3 жыл бұрын
Additional time for Infantry Training is great. My concern rests with ensuring the standards are maintained and not “waived”. There is a desire for some to lighten up on the standards to allow the unfit or less than suited an opportunity to “grow” when they get to the FMF. This is wrong. Basically you either make it or you don’t. With regard to MCT…that is vital to ensure all Marines regardless of MOS have basic infantry skills beyond what is provided at recruit training. Shortening MCT or cutting it out altogether as some have discussed will be a long term negative for a wide variety of reasons.
@fredselbman3319
3 жыл бұрын
I went through ITS in 1979, looks like a lot has changed since then, not necessarily for the better from what I can see ! Semper Fi 🇺🇸
@davidlucasmachado2831
2 жыл бұрын
Why not for the better ?
@paleamigo8575
3 жыл бұрын
A higher quality of training can mean fewer Marines that are needed to accomplish a specific task. It looks good from my perspective. I believe kids today learn faster and it will continue to increase with future generations.
@chriskeel3096
3 жыл бұрын
learn faster? we knew what bathroom to use by 4. they still dont know at their coming of age dude......
@basedpatriot4982
3 жыл бұрын
The extra time is for CRT and Gender Studies training.
@JamesonsTravels
3 жыл бұрын
my lord, i hope not and I could see powerpoints and pledges about crt and their privilege.
@victoreous626
2 жыл бұрын
You guys are racists . . . . jk of course
@davidadams2726
3 жыл бұрын
What about iron sights? Seems like optics are on everything now. I hope the fundamentals of marksmanship are still taught.
@ssgus3682
3 жыл бұрын
Not a Marine but when I was an 11B we had to qualify expert on both our M-68 (Aimpoint) and then quality with our iron sights.
@badacyborg
3 жыл бұрын
They'll probably still use iron sights in boot.
@robertbloom9400
3 жыл бұрын
@@badacyborg hate to tell you, but a lot of rifles don't even have the rear sight post. Been in 3 years so far and haven't fired a single round with iron sight. I haven't even seen anyone else do it. I am in an infantry unit, so it's not like this is coming from some CLB, or airwing marine.
@badacyborg
3 жыл бұрын
@@robertbloom9400 What are y'all firing these days? Does the M27 have iron sights? Either way, I understand both sides of the equation. If you're going to be fighting with some sort of optic, it helps to train with that same optic. I'm in the USAF but everytime we shoot there is a mandatory iron sight portion.
@gordo3697
3 жыл бұрын
@@robertbloom9400 I was with 9 esb we were the first unit to get m16a4s before we went to Iraq in the 3 mlg the acog is such a superior device to iron sights those things are rugged you could take them off throw the carry handle on they still held there bzo I bet the m27s really make the a4s seem like m16 a2s no more 3 round burst and way more reliability not being direct impingment
@AgileApache64
3 жыл бұрын
The Army should implement this
@JamesonsTravels
3 жыл бұрын
The Army has messed with it a few times. At one point it sounded better.
@ironstarofmordian7098
3 жыл бұрын
No. The Army is a fundamentally different organization. Should more adaptive more adult training programs be utilized, yes. But the training should be more specific to each kind of infantry brigade. Light infantry doctrine is close to useless to a heavy mech grunt. And understanding vehicle born operations is absolutely a necessity for us stryker and bradley boys. A commando model makes sense for our light guys, folks in or going to the airborne, air assault, or 10th mountain.
@Andrew54123
3 жыл бұрын
@@ironstarofmordian7098 the training in the video is about kids fresh out of boot camp. This video is not about unit level training. It would be pointless for the Army to break up infantry school training specific for each brigade combat team. That would make no sense. Just as army infantry school is now. Everyone is taught the same, and when they get to their specialized brigades, whether they’re going to be rucking everywhere with 10th mountain, skiing and snow shoeing with 25th in Alaska, or operating bradlys with an armored brigade, that training is conducted unit level.
@cm-pr2ys
3 жыл бұрын
@@ironstarofmordian7098 Just get rid of the Airborne by converting them to Ranger Regiments. That way you'd have more good paratroopers (versus decent paratroopers), and there'd be no barrier between the conventional Army and the Rangers. That would increase the lethality and morale of the Army infantry branch. Imagine if the leg Army carried themselves the same way the Airborne does?
@ironstarofmordian7098
3 жыл бұрын
@@Andrew54123 i disagree. Infantry basic training and the infantry in general needs to be completely changed. Infantry basic training should begin teaching buddy team movements in white phase. Range day ends and you get back to the bay, get back down stairs with full kit and blank fire adapters. Vehicle mounted infantry soldiers should've started out with their own MOS separate from light infantry. All of them would learn the same battle drills, light infantry would simply go to their duty stations sooner. And the Stryker and heavy mech boys would stay to work on their specific vehicle for a few weeks in the field.
@billstopage
3 жыл бұрын
If I may…I don’t agree with the statement that the marines are smarter or have a higher aptitude. I would restate and say, the Gen Z marines were raised in an era where information is at their finger tips. Before a leader could withhold information from recruits and really shock their system. But now, kids are taught at an early age to research all available informant to make the best decision possible. These recruits have done their research before even enlisting and have that information going in. So what might look like higher aptitude in really is actually recruits who are better informed. Just my thoughts.
@mmholling87
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Kids are taught to research things and like you said they have a ton of information at their fingertips. IMO kids today are more book smart than the generations before them but lack experience doing task that would be considered simple 30 years ago. We have raised a generation of book worms that cannot change a tire lol.
@CrucesNomad1
3 жыл бұрын
As a army sergeant in the gulf war I seen the Marines land and train. They are tough and I hope they never change that, but yes better combat skills and prepared as mentioned in by the OP.
@anthonymanchild9591
3 жыл бұрын
@@CrucesNomad1 oh please stop. Where was this? Where they land and train in the gulf?
@victordonavon292
2 жыл бұрын
Having information at one's fingertip doesn't make one smart. If one is too dependent on having to... "look things up" (and thus being unable to actually retain any significant level of information) makes one loose-rooted and poorly-disciplined in a field where being able to make and commit decisions on the fly with what you know down to your bone and drill for. Also with all the political indoctrination that's been inundating the population living in their little safe bubbles or safe-spaces topped off with an overall dangerous affinity to more online interactions vs real-time face-to-face interaction, real-life is going to be a bit of a kick-in the face.
@notsocrates9529
2 жыл бұрын
Higher aptitude is reflective of higher intelligence. I can see it your way it too, it depends on your worldview or perspective.
@paydenladeroute7129
3 жыл бұрын
This is similar to what we've done in the Canadian Armed Forces. Training across multiple weapon systems as opposed to just the rifle. I believe Infantry training is about 14 weeks long, most of that time is spent focusing on squad and platoon level tactics across all weapons found in that formation. Lots of leadership, field craft and mobility is what is the focus.
@cm-pr2ys
3 жыл бұрын
Don't you guys have to go through a general infantry training first after your boot camp, and then you can report to your infantry training after (third)?
@paydenladeroute7129
3 жыл бұрын
@@cm-pr2ys no. Not for infanteers, at least. After they finish boot camp, they go straight to their infantry battle school, usually run by the regiment they are being assigned to. The course you're referring to is called BMQ-L and it doesn't exist anymore.
@mickh4256
3 жыл бұрын
@@paydenladeroute7129 BMQ-L Still exists for Combat Arms Trades. They just took away the requirement for it this year for support trades. Same as the Army phase of the Leadership Qual (PLQ/AJLC)
@paydenladeroute7129
3 жыл бұрын
@@mickh4256 no, the modules from Land have just been put into the combat arms' trade courses. AJLC/PLQ is still required for Master Jack hopefuls from the combat trades.
@mickh4256
3 жыл бұрын
@@paydenladeroute7129 ah, gotchya. Similar what they had already done to the Infantry then. Removed SQ but attached on to DP 1. I don't know how I feel about it, other than knowing that support trades will have a much easier time getting their leaf.
@alfe1402
3 жыл бұрын
Royal Marines Comandos take 36 weeks, and 60 if you go officer. The more you train, better your performance.
@joeswinsick8977
3 жыл бұрын
I think that may be comparable to our Marine Raiders. And, of course, "the more you sweat in training the less you bleed in war". I don't think truer words were ever spoken.
@beezlebub3955
3 жыл бұрын
700k subs, that’s pretty legit 😎hope you’re doing well Jameson
@JamesonsTravels
3 жыл бұрын
thanks my friend. thanks to you fine viewers.
@IstvanThree
3 жыл бұрын
For a second I thought they doubled the time Marines (pardon me for calling them recruits) have to finish their tasks. But no, actually something good is happening. Almost no longer used to this...
@IstvanThree
3 жыл бұрын
@@Lucid925 Just patched it! In my defense, I´m from around the globe and did not know this.
@scoogsy
3 жыл бұрын
It was nice to see a military video talk about fighting a war.
@JamesonsTravels
3 жыл бұрын
yeah, there has been alot recently regarding military drama.
@universal_wisdom3416
3 жыл бұрын
Any attempt to improve and evolve in a positive direction is good to hear. Let’s hope the Army follows suit.
@Doc_Holiday.
3 жыл бұрын
The Army all ready did. Last year they increased basic training I believe a few weeks longer then the Marines to focus on all infantry related training.
@universal_wisdom3416
3 жыл бұрын
@@Doc_Holiday. I hope that’s true. That sound awesome. Bootcamp shouldn’t be some short field trip. It should be a long test of your physicality and mentality.
@HailRider
3 жыл бұрын
23yrs in. I went to ITS (infantry training school) in 1984. We needed more range time and weapon handling time was my thought. More land nav as well too. It was a harsh environment with a steady amount of drops, but since we went there right after Boot is wasn't that big of a deal. Early 80's Boot Camp you still had combat training, there was no MCT. You went out with your Drill Instructors and learned what is taught at MCT. Third Phase was the fun part of Boot. While in the Infantry THAT is where you learned what you really needed to know and how to do it. Pre-deployment work ups was intense. We used to run in 18 month cycles. 6mo pre-dep / 6mo on dep / 6mo down time. Pre dep was when you did a lot of small pumps to various places for various scenarios. Dep...was dep... being ready, living on boat, shore leave now and then at ports, hitting various beaches on various exercises. Post dep(down time) was the WORST! That is when for the next 6mo you could take leave and when you weren't on leave you would be fapped out to Guard Duty, Mess Duty, Grounds Duty, Weapons Duty(armory bitch) all while still having to perform your turn as Fire Watch... I really hated that part. Anyway... I think it is okay that we let go of tanks. I think smaller ops that are light, nimble and deadly are where the Marines need to be. Nothing pissed me off more than sitting in Iraq, Kuwait, Afghan as an occupying force. I never learned that crap as a young Marine as my instructors were mostly Viet Nam vets. We were taught to be light and fast and silent. Go in, kill anything that moved, get out and let the Army sit and occupy. We had Amtracs and AAV's. That is all we needed. If the attack came from the water that was us. Occasional fly-ins if we weren't swimming in. Shock troops. That was our tradition. Attacking from the water. It is what we should get back to. In case of emergency - Break Glass.
@Aldersees75
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid Jameson! Random question, have you ever considered doing a patch wall for fans to send in their military or Emergency services patches? Just wondering, would be cool.
@JamesonsTravels
3 жыл бұрын
I would love to. I have a few sent already but it interesting seeing all of the unique unit patches for sure/
@jivetalk1045
3 жыл бұрын
I went through US Army Infantry training at Ft. Benning in 1983. That was some ass kicking training, but it made me a better soldier, citizen & man.
@burkejones8277
3 жыл бұрын
I have a Master’s Degree in Adult Education. Everything the Marine Corps does is, and has always been, based solidly on that model.
@OLDSKOOLRAVER1
3 жыл бұрын
What a waste of time, A masters degree in lego would of been more useful.
@burkejones8277
3 жыл бұрын
@@OLDSKOOLRAVER1 I have done quite well with it.
@burkejones8277
3 жыл бұрын
@@pbird5351 I just saw this. Military training is typically designed on the adult education model. The objectives are clear, defined, and communicated from the start. The design is backwards in nature. By “backwards”, I mean that the outcomes are determined first and the instruction is designed moving backwards to the beginning. Most people don’t give this much thought when going through it, but the instructional design is critical to training that is task oriented. It is a different approach than learning that is designed to illicit critical thinking. However, critical thinking is also something that must be considered and addressed. That is why you need field experience to learn how to solve problems as they occur.
@burkejones8277
3 жыл бұрын
@@pbird5351 Obviously, there is a lot more to it than what I explained, but that is the basic model from more of an instructional design perspective. I am not sure what the research says on the male/female end of it. But in my view, I think it has a lot to do with how committed someone is to learning something. Self direction is a key element in the model. I heard the guy mentioned that, too.
@triciaanddennisb9548
2 жыл бұрын
Served 70-74, Hollywood Marine. Loved every minute
@Getithowyoulive863
3 жыл бұрын
"A new environment they'll be fighting in" that sounds like they're preparing for war.
@JamesonsTravels
3 жыл бұрын
they have been saber rattling for the last year about the S China Sea.
@proger1960
3 жыл бұрын
Why do I smell another Vietnam lol ? Like imagine a Vietnam style conflict against China but we’re fighting in like Myanmar or something
@ironstarofmordian7098
3 жыл бұрын
No combatant arm should do anything other than prepare for war.
@badkarma2761
3 жыл бұрын
@@proger1960 Well, the Chinese people might rise against an oppressive communist government, but that's what we thought about Vietnam as well and look how that turned out....
@proger1960
3 жыл бұрын
@@badkarma2761 True lol
@reddevilparatrooper
3 жыл бұрын
All infantry units when starting training at any level have to start with the basics. All comes down to basics again. No matter where or what level you are at. Safety is always to be concerned before starting combat. Needless accidents in combat means more firepower on your side and doing the right things like not doing stupid things and accomplishing the mission.
@jaymobiggety9903
3 жыл бұрын
"Can you get them to stop eating crayons?" "Yes, but it's going to take more time."
@t3hSpAdEs
3 жыл бұрын
“A diverse fighting force to continue losing wars”
@albofrfr
3 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of longer training since china having the numerical advantage having well trained british troops/Nato troops and better trained american troops is the our only advantage against the PRC
@albofrfr
3 жыл бұрын
@@lyonsmaneproductions3431 i do hope so im kinda scared that it will happen when i join the british army lol
@teufelhunden4272
3 жыл бұрын
F china
@Hoplite9
3 жыл бұрын
And I thought the PRC was Taiwan.
@albofrfr
3 жыл бұрын
@@Hoplite9 taiwan it is the og ww2 republic ,ROC (republic of china) they fled to taiwan when the soviets helped mao take over
@focke-wulffw-1902
3 жыл бұрын
Just your average servant of god Highly unlikely there will be a conflict with China as it’s not in their interest. They will continue waging “grey war”. But we still prepare for it regardless.
@jameslytle8527
3 жыл бұрын
You were on point in your reaction here, as always! This is one ex-squid that agrees with 97 % of your commentary. I wonder what Lumpy would have to say on this subject!! My favorite reaction you have done involved him!! Not a gray-area kind of guy. Keep your good military content rolling Marine!!
@jaymac7203
3 жыл бұрын
"More diverse" does not always mean more effective! 😤
@danielniffenegger7698
3 жыл бұрын
“By creating a better trained marine…that’s one less thing the fleet has to do.” 1. Centralized vs decentralized. Yes you can enforce higher and more consistent standards in a school, but on the job training will ALWAYS be needed; no school will ever replace that. 2. “More rounded marine.” This was the same reason universities expanded their core requirements and 4 year degrees became 6.
@miraculousladybugandchatno3941
2 жыл бұрын
More training is always a good thing. Better than what we had back in 1969!
@ggamba9729
2 жыл бұрын
As a 0369 staff sergeant retired can say that lethality comes with the ethos warrior creed that guides training with changing situations/times. Leather necks have been evolving-adapting with the world's security. And due to the fact that we don't know what type of mission our chain of command will ask us to accomplish. Let's be optimistic and keep training like we fight. Semper Fi SSgt Gamba 0369
@basedclave539
3 жыл бұрын
It's very encouraging to see the corps hasn't become infected with the same wokeism as the army has, very uplifting to see America still have some tough fighting men left.
@bluehotdog2610
3 жыл бұрын
Most of the military isn't woke. Don't let the ads define everything. The ads are unrepresentative of reality.
@greenmarine5
3 жыл бұрын
@@bluehotdog2610 exactly
@alphaomega3766
3 жыл бұрын
They look thoroughly feminized to me.
@Babyfacemcgill
3 жыл бұрын
Uhhhh…..have you talked to any SNCO or officers with 15 years or more experience. What has happened in the las 15 months would make you sick.
@jackmillwater3604
3 жыл бұрын
Oh, there's been PC in the Corps for a long time. Had to call them "turn charts" instead of "flip charts," and "dry erase board" instead of "white board" as an ITB instructor, and that was almost 20 years ago.
@1TigerShark
3 жыл бұрын
New training should be a good direction. Also keeping stats on what is working and adjusting what doesn’t. Make sure you have combat instructors to pass on what can’t be learned with out real time experience. Semper Fi
@digitaldreamer5481
3 жыл бұрын
ITS to ITB, hopefully more detailed training than before? I know the new Commandant, General Berger, has stated over the last six months about turning Infantry units into smaller, more amphibious units like our Seal teams and IBS training squads and I would assume a more stronger focus on combat communications along with more deployments of man portable drones for field surveillance and tactical advantages on the battlefield. I wonder if this South China Sea threats will motivate the Marine Corps to send more Marines to Ft.Benning for airborne training and quals? Plus send more to Ft.Campbell for Assault School also? That to me would be more adult training. Having Marines be able to handle anything that comes their way and not just line up to die training we had before. Time will tell…
@cm-pr2ys
3 жыл бұрын
USMC has their own air assault training and courses though. I see what you mean but air assaults and helicopters apply to all types of infantry not just the Army (or the 101st). Therefore, Marines get air assault training.
@digitaldreamer5481
3 жыл бұрын
@@cm-pr2ys Well, it’s about time! Back in the day, we were sent to Air Assault School at Fort Campbell, Ky, which at the time was ran like US Army boot camp, which was laughable to all of us Marines. For us, it was just a lot of fun and the instructors knew we could handle anything they could dish up. At that time, command wouldn’t allow any Marines to wash out of this school and Airborne school, meaning, it they required 50 push ups and sit ups, we weren’t allowed to go if we couldn’t do 100 of each. Now if the Marines has their own schools now, OUTSTANDING!
@glensilva5082
3 жыл бұрын
All of that is what we were asking for back in the day, nice to see they are actually doing it. I hope it is working, doesn’t many a day re educating all the Marines coming from the school house. 90-2015
@soulvacaine
3 жыл бұрын
I can't speak for Marines, but when I went through Infantry Basic back in 2001 at Fort Benning it was still hard-core. I've heard in recent years it's gone soft. I really hope this isn't the case.
@trooperodst6880
3 жыл бұрын
I think the US Army really goot boot camp 80 90 early 2000s after that is started get relaxed
@bradoakwood
3 жыл бұрын
I will say in January 08 Benning wasn't soft. I was a 13f that was supposed to be in OST at sill but had to complete basic at Benning last minute. As a 25 year old married with 2 children I feel I was more prepared than most of my younger brothers where. Still was not a walk in the park but held and still hold the upmost respect for my Drill Sargent's. God speed to them.
@ssgus3682
3 жыл бұрын
I went through C 1/50 in 2001
@cm-pr2ys
3 жыл бұрын
One thing you guys gotta remember though is you guys can haze your boots. We can't do that anymore. I guess Marines doing extra push ups, pull ups, or sprints is bad and "scawy".
@kurthasedd7923
3 жыл бұрын
I think newer, better leadership, with a fresh outlook on how wars should be fought would help much more in improving effectiveness and professionalism in the marines. I think the better question though is that is it better to try and give guys a little more range time, a little more field exercises to hone their skills or is it better that they be with their platoon to improve cohesion faster and if you got a little extra training budget, giving it to active units so they can get some more time practicing or being in the field or taking training trips down in Guatemala or the Philippines or wherever they think their next theater of war might be? Keep in mind, they aren't extending contracts to compensate. I think if they were learning how to work with new equipment being added and not replaced or if they wanted to teach them more tricks of the trade it would be beneficial, but if they're just going over more of the same, they can do the marines who will be their own guy
@elig9900
3 жыл бұрын
The new guys coming from SOI and hitting the fleet have the technical skills to utilize their gear but as for actually knowing their job they lack the knowledge to even be somewhat competent. So once they hit we have to re train these guys on basically everything
@JamesonsTravels
3 жыл бұрын
ah, thanks for the input. i figured it has not changed much in 30 years for infantry skills in practice. plus learning how the real Marine Corps works.
@the_womp_and_only9062
2 жыл бұрын
My platoon sergeant at MCT shat on our generation so much but, once we finished and got honor platoon, he gave us a great speech I always look back on when things get shitty. The long and short of it is that we're the best of our generation (which is scary) and that we all chose to do something much greater than ourselves. For most of us, it was a much greater leap than it was for his generation(he also enlisted when he was 24) but that we should continue to strive for excellence.
@tonybacon6277
3 жыл бұрын
Good training concept. Unfortunately with politics being ramped up so bad and social justice “feel good” crap being pushed, there are a lot of good Marines exiting the Corps at an alarming rate. MOSs are being eliminated with no option but to get out. Some are being pushed out by other ridiculousness. God Bless the United States and success to her Marines. Semper Fi!
@dave-d-grunt
3 жыл бұрын
I remember 15-20 years ago the Corps was working on developing a Company Landing Team. CLT. Fully reenforced rifle company’s as independent landing teams. Sounds like the new training.
@BradPitbull
3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to renaming our commandant to supreme social justice warrior in charge of our elite battle buddy system
@jacobengel2210
2 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe that it's taken this long for the Marine Corps to figure out that Marines going through SOI need to be trained on more weapons systems. When I went through in 2011, I had minimal training on the M240B, and none with the M2. I also remember having minimal radio training, so I think that this a great addition to the SOI curriculum.
@matthewwebster3143
3 жыл бұрын
Curious on your thoughts on where we stand as a fighting force that is ready or not ready to face china and win?
@JamesonsTravels
3 жыл бұрын
I think the fighting force is the leadership is questionable so, right now, i dont think we would fair well due to that.
@proger1960
3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesonsTravels I mean it’s still better than Chinese military leadership , not underestimating the Chinese though
@drakeandjosh007
3 жыл бұрын
China has a bigger and high grade military just as us. The big difference is that Chinas military has not become full of PC culture, they still have a more brutal true military culture. You don’t have instructs getting “fired” over putting hands on recruits. It’s sad our military has been getting softer year by year
@proger1960
3 жыл бұрын
@@drakeandjosh007 Eh again their leadership sucks which will hurt them in actual combat
@OLDSKOOLRAVER1
3 жыл бұрын
Lol China??? You can't even beat a few villagers with ak47, s but you are wondering about China. Get a grip.
@tankeater
2 жыл бұрын
Train like you fight, fight like you train
@mykulpierce
3 жыл бұрын
I'm not convinced we have a military doctrine that is going to be success in modern battlefield. We are effectively losing wars while winning battles with technological advantage.
@JamesonsTravels
3 жыл бұрын
sad but true. i agree. great way to put it. our doctrine to win a war is lost in politics.
@mykulpierce
3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesonsTravels I think it's one of the subtle things that's eroding combat effectiveness. Without passion about the mission (not relying on youthful enthusiasm) we are going to have men trained in combat that simply don't want to fight anymore. No clear objectives for victory. Its tough. My military career didn't go as I'd hoped. My cousin on the other hand went through every bit of training I wanted to do, had many deployments with SF units, but last year he took his own life. It messes with me sometime. He fulfilled what I had wanted to do but somehow wasn't enough in his life.
@gordo3697
3 жыл бұрын
@@mykulpierce I was in the Marines from 2006 to 2011 everyone I knew wanted to go to Iraq and then Afghanistan especially the young guys who had never deployed. I dont necessarily agree that we lost those wars we pacified the al anbar province before obama pulled even with horroble roe sorry about your cousin passing I hope you and your family find peace I personally think allot different about these wars looking back
@TotallyAmerican-1774
2 жыл бұрын
Man I remember just a few years ago my Sgts and staff telling our ITB class that “times are changing so that means the corps must” they weren’t kidding alots changed in the last few years
@davidodonovan1699
3 жыл бұрын
More time training sounds like a very good thing. In probably any profession you get into. I wonder how much training there is as a standard after you become a marine? Like more practice on a machine gun or in squad tactics?
@OLDSKOOLRAVER1
3 жыл бұрын
Should get Taliban fighters to train your army lol.
@davidodonovan1699
3 жыл бұрын
@@OLDSKOOLRAVER1 I'm not from the USA or Afghanistan, I'm Irish. But I get it lol. Thank God our tiny army seem dedicated enough to die fighting.
@davidodonovan1699
3 жыл бұрын
@@OLDSKOOLRAVER1 it's a good joke though. Lol
@tommythompson7941
3 жыл бұрын
Good luck and God bless youse marines. Fair wind and following seas from a proud supporter from north Jersey. Semper Fi - Do or Die!
@BloodEagle1583
3 жыл бұрын
Marine Viet vet. You already know what I think.
@Tadicuslegion78
3 жыл бұрын
This is slightly off topic but, a couple years ago Thomas Ricks wrote a phenomenal book called The Generals, now it was mainly about the Failure of Army Generals post WW2 and how nobody got fired unless they were literally caught with their pants around their ankles and he said one of the things that needed to be fixed for officer training was doing away with the hand holding lake woebegone everyone passes mentally and go back to the demanding a lot more from officers, especially Majors on up by requiring a lot of reading, a lot of writing, a lot of discipline, and a lot of firing and rewarding success instead of protecting the guild from criticism. As he put it the military after Vietnam built a powerful giant tactically that could fight anyone but left a rotten head on top that didn’t learn from all the failures of Korea & Vietnam. And now tripling down after Iraq and Afghanistan to avoid taking any responsibility for their failures
@davidodonovan1699
3 жыл бұрын
Two questions as a civilian: 1: Why does the instructor/ guy next to the machine gunner, have his arm around the machine gunner? I'm guessing to make sure the gunner is keeping his arm correctly positioned during firing? 2: I know helmets are almost never bullet proof, and where brought by the British in WW1 to reduce shrapnel deaths from over head artillery. But is it more effective to keep these light helmets, or wear a sun hat like the guys in this video? Plus, if marines main job is short, quick encounters, would it be more effective to have a properly bullet proof helmet like the Russian special forces sometimes use? Like if the objective is a raid, where the actual combat is planned to last under five minutes, wouldn't it be far more effective to have a marine grunt breaching into a room, wearing a helmet that has his or her entire head covered in bullet proof material? Even if a bullet proof neck armour, that still gives 100% perfect neck movement, isn't available yet.
@harryfaber
3 жыл бұрын
1: If someone is really good with a machine gun, it is a good idea to be his best buddy. 2: A helmet will protect the head from all sorts of stuff that flies about in a dust up, but must not impede movement or spacial awareness. They have been under development since the days when blokes in boats would run up the beach with battle-axes, I guess the science is pretty well thought through.
@davidodonovan1699
3 жыл бұрын
@@harryfaber yeah. Thank you for this information. Also, I'm Irish, Vikings running up our shores, among other pirates, was a thing that happened over here, back in the day. More so up north though. I live near the south coast. I think it's the "Irish National Heritage Museum" in Dublin City that has probably the best example of an intact Viking helmet in the world. It's cool. Archaeologists keep finding skeletons, weapons, armour, coils, etc, probably maybe a few times a year from all periods in history. Literally a mile r two from this house is a my local church, who's tower has a bunch of skeletons in it they found in a hidden lower chamber, maybe five years ago. Not to mention the local ancient standing stones thing like a mile or two north of here, and a castle in the other direction.
@harryfaber
3 жыл бұрын
@@davidodonovan1699 I used to live on the north bank of the River Thames, plenty of places along there that Vikings raided and had battles, what I found amazing was that very few people were even slightly interested in the history. Places like Benfleet where there was a battle between the Saxons and Vikings, or Barking Abbey, where not only were there problems with Vikings, but William the Conqueror stayed there after his coronation, as well as (much later) Captain Cook got married there.
@davidodonovan1699
3 жыл бұрын
@@harryfaber wow. That's very cool. During the Irish War of Independence (1919-1921) apparently half of the boys in my mom's, grandparents family, here in the British Army, the other Half in the IRA. Meanwhile one of them was married to an English Lady, who lived in military housing outside Collins Barracks in Cork City, which was called Victoria Barracks, at the time. Michael Collins was Ireland's George Washington, in many ways. Looking into his history. It's clear that like George Washington, God was clearly on Michael Collins side. No offence. I also have a I think grand uncle or great grand uncle, also on my mom's side of the family, who was a British WW2 Paratrooper, in the far East. Apparently coming back with PTSD, getting drunk, into fights, etc. God help those men with PTSD.
@02stampede
3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see they are making an effort to improve training. Now is the time to implement it when you have so much experience getting ready to retire soon.
@mykulpierce
3 жыл бұрын
As soon as it began with "more diverse" it seems like a huge red flag that they are focused on people's skin color or whatever instead of competence.
@JamesonsTravels
3 жыл бұрын
code word for lower the standard.
@seamuszharper
3 жыл бұрын
Specialization shouldn't be the end all be all. That kind of mindset puts you in a rut you may not be able to fight out of. Training in several areas will always be better. Just as a 'for instance' as a Navy sailor in Desert Shield/Storm we had to be able to do every job on our gun mount.... or every job on a firefighter team.
@manofaction1807
3 жыл бұрын
I'm with you. As long as you are getting good training and making MARINE's, that is the only issue that is relevant. I have no confidence in the mush mouth talking here, though. Lets see the trainers talk, and hear what they have to say... screw the office pogue.
@JamesonsTravels
3 жыл бұрын
the political speak with a mental circle J. just make marines to fight.
@joeswinsick8977
3 жыл бұрын
I agree completely. And, after the reprehensible Afghanistan withdrawl I've never seen so many spineless liars as some of our general staff officers and politicians. I was listening to Bill O'reilly speak on this subject and he simply stated: "What would General George S. Patton have done?" I thought that was perfect. Biden and some of our generals are incapable of answering that question!
@Flintlock1972
3 жыл бұрын
A 30 year Soldiers perspective. I was Army Infantry and spent time training with Marines out at K-Bay/Scholfield BKS. Increase training on individual skills, weapon systems, Land Navigation with baselines not GPS and Optics but just compass and protractor and iron sights. Develop proficiency with the basics then use the additional time with tech assisted skills optics and GPS. Develop Marines and Soldiers to be able to use the new tech and then basic team, squad, platoon manuver training. Everyone knows that has served that once you get to your permanant unit duty assignment you need to train with them on their SOPs and TTPs in order to integrate into the unit that you will fight with. More trigger time makes a more lethal Marine and Infantry Soldier. Add to the Marines, water survival and operations training. There will be a time again where amphibias beach landings will happen. Gain that toe, God hopes it is a foot hold, to allow follow on forces to free the enemy's tortured souls.
@2ATristan
3 жыл бұрын
I love the increase in training. I enlisted under a recon contract then lost it in bootcamp when I got pneumonia and my PT scores suffered. When I went through MCT the training was a mere month. Did I learn a lot? Sure. Could I have learned more and become more proficient with the m16a4? Undoubtedly. I was medically separated last year but I do like seeing the Marine Corps learning and growing.
@fraisercrane3784
3 жыл бұрын
Are you still going for recon?
@fraisercrane3784
3 жыл бұрын
And what was you pt score before your pneumonia
@2ATristan
3 жыл бұрын
@@fraisercrane3784 135 sit ups, 28 pull ups, 17 minute 5k
@2ATristan
3 жыл бұрын
@@fraisercrane3784 I was medically separated back in december. Got hip problems. Whenever I ran or marched it felt like my hip was catching on fire. Turns out, I don't have any cartilage left in my left hip and degrading cartilage in my right.
@fraisercrane3784
3 жыл бұрын
@@2ATristan dude you were a machine I’m getting my recon contract I it’s got to 35 pull ups 130 sits ups and 3 miles in 17 but I’m getting knee problems from squats what’s a quick fix because it’s not chronic or anything
@antonioliles5027
3 жыл бұрын
I never understood why the Marines were expanded so much. I always thought of the Marines as the tip of the spear while us Army guys came in after to secure the area. The Marines would smash, the Army would grab.
@davidgoodenough6450
3 жыл бұрын
Let's hope this will not become "diverse" in the progressive way...
@bluehotdog2610
3 жыл бұрын
@RW LT There is no point in saying you aren't an American. America, despite what some people say, is by far the least racist country in the world. In places like Denmark or France, there are a ton of people who are in favor of banning all immigration, even skilled immigrants.
@why8298
3 жыл бұрын
@@bluehotdog2610 well in a sense it is the most racist, but that’s due to the citizens, not the country itself. Not only is the country the most diverse in the world, it’s also the one with the most racial tension, not to mention media outlets using race as a tactic to discredit people they don’t like/don’t align with politically. When you don’t include how the citizens behave america itself isn’t racist at all.
@claymcalister7128
3 жыл бұрын
I hope the training does better prepare them. I was Army Airborne Infantry (82nd) and I agree with Jameson's assessment that even after infantry school, you got to permanent party and then you really learned what you needed to know. My oldest son is currently in USMC boot camp and he will be infantry. It will be interesting to hear from him if this new training is better or not.
@andymac3565
3 жыл бұрын
Marines should simply be tough badass fighting squad. What they are known for. When the instructors start using "catchy phrases" and "buzz words"then it becomes a worry. I hope the enemy dont see the "diversity" etc that is being pushed so much now days in many Western military.
@davidodonovan1699
3 жыл бұрын
Well done marine. You're awesome as usual sir. I mean it.
@lerssilarsson6414
3 жыл бұрын
The paradigm of war has changed -- learn to code in Python.
@danielf4136
2 жыл бұрын
I went through ITB in 2012 and I felt felt very proficient with my TOW and Javelin systems. I do wish we had more training on uses of comms systems, land nav, 9 line executions etc. It felt basic in the sese that pretty much all of our time was spent on our weapons systems.
@nicklawrenson6921
3 жыл бұрын
Any more or additional time that the lads have on the range or improving their core battle skills and not sitting in a class room getting b/s political correctness workshops is a win win.
@richardjoseph8683
3 жыл бұрын
But what about all the Emma's with two mom's?
@Glaamdring
3 жыл бұрын
I'd be more apt to trust the opinions of leadership in the military in 2021-after literally 20 straight years of war-than the opinions of military leadership from the tail end of one of the longest periods of peace on record (pre-9/11), whatever it may be, you know it's coming from people who have not only been in but have been deployed.
@nicklawrenson6921
3 жыл бұрын
@@richardjoseph8683 🤣😂
@Ced_GT
3 жыл бұрын
More training time means better preparation and fewer deaths in the field. Seems like they are going down the right path with this.
@Joshua_N-A
3 жыл бұрын
Brain save both sweat and blood.
@rwcowell
2 жыл бұрын
These new recruits lack the discipline and motivation we had when I served. Basic or ITS weeded out the folks who lacked the right character or failed to have the necessary mental skills to remain disciplined. Lets face it, nearly all of the hard training we endured was mostly mental. It was the DI's job to break us down mentally, and rebuild us into the soldier we required to be. Sure it's physically grueling too! Most kids today aren't physically active enough and requiring a lot of physical conditioning. Nowadays, these new recruits just aren't as disciplined as the way us older generations were. We were brought up to respect others, perform hard work, show determination, and have teamwork. It was drilled into us from home, school, sports, work and almost everything we did growing up. This is all lacking into todays age! Kids are pampered, weak, overly sensitive, lack work ethics, lazy, stupid and undisciplined to handle the training we old-timers endured! They all received a trophy for participating in sports, so they can all feel special. I can understand why the military has to modify their training programs to accommodate these younger folks. Otherwise most would fail, dropout and receive a TDP! I appreciate there is more training involved. They obviously need it with the new quality of recruits! You can't get enough training! But I learned 10 times more once I was assigned to my permanent unit. My unit trained and evaluated us a daily with the focused areas we needed to be successful as a unit. So unless they are going straight from boot to the battlefield, they will have plenty of time to get better and regular training once they are assigned. But it's obvious that today's recruits are not the same caliber as the recruits that I trained/served with 30 something years ago!
@stephenbrasher1823
2 жыл бұрын
Army Infantry recon guy here. When we went to basic and AIT it was 14 weeks. 6 for basic and 8 for Infantry training.
@akafxde7245
3 жыл бұрын
Expectation: 6 more weeks of hardcore training to become elite special forces that aren’t related to the army. Reality: 6 weeks of DI’s screaming in your face about how you shouldn’t even be here because you barely even passed Boot Camp.
@lilzumi284
3 жыл бұрын
Huh?
@thodan467
3 жыл бұрын
what elite special forces? That not RMC training?
@sancocho1718
3 жыл бұрын
There are no DIs in ITB.
@lilzumi284
3 жыл бұрын
@@sancocho1718 lmaooo right
@akafxde7245
3 жыл бұрын
@@sancocho1718 twas a joke
@naja2270
3 жыл бұрын
This looks quite similar to the Royal Marine Commando training. They recently reworked their training and updated their kit to return to their roots as small unit raiders. Commando's basic is 32 weeks however, but with a smaller force they can afford to take more time and be more selective.
@CP025129
3 жыл бұрын
I notice repeated use of “infantry Marine” in lieu of “infantryman”. I perceive this as woke rather than service pride. Thoughts?
@JamesonsTravels
3 жыл бұрын
new pc speak in the Corps.
@KSmithwick1989
3 жыл бұрын
That said, "PC speak" doesn't mean anything in a combat environment. Whether it's a man, a woman or child behind the trigger, bullets kill people. It objectively doesn't matter what terminology they're using for PR reason.
@aleccope1320
3 жыл бұрын
@@KSmithwick1989 words turn into culture
@KSmithwick1989
3 жыл бұрын
@@aleccope1320 Yeah right, how old are you? People have been grifting that "culture war" argument for well over 20 years. Although hardly anything changes on a grassroots level. You can really break it down to people arguing over First World "problems". When there is more important things in life.
@davidt2291
3 жыл бұрын
A Marine is a Marine. My older uncles both have two bronze stars each. They earned them for sure. So lets hope these young Marines understand how that is done.
@spectre06x
3 жыл бұрын
If you're not prioritizing jungle and urban warfare, you're wrong.
@jmjjim819
3 жыл бұрын
the all core basic reality of an infinite warrior is this. Survive-kill/destroy-survive-teach. infinite cycle.
@cheesegyoza
3 жыл бұрын
I think the training should also focus on the back end of a service member’s career. When I was in it was basically, “good bye”. I think there should be a 3-6 month out process. Have the service member go to therapy and classes on how to adjust back to civilian life.
@slappymcfatface8056
3 жыл бұрын
We have that. Classes on how to adjust. They make us make a resume and everything along with a bunch of other trash.
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