If you would be so kind as to share this video on your social media such as Facebook and so on I would REALLY appreciate it :-) Gotta show my love for the gun that everyone loves to hate haha! Have a good day everyone! :-)
@Will831100
6 жыл бұрын
Didn't know they updated it again. Has particular interest after shooting the ACF version and LSW. Like the new mounting feature as I can see how it certainly adds to flexibility. A little fun vid as payback. Cheers. kzitem.info/news/bejne/l5qu05ONbKd_jKw
@sheriffhotdog1443
6 жыл бұрын
Matsimus moar Abrams
@Noobyara1337
6 жыл бұрын
A2 vs A3 uppers: kzitem.info/news/bejne/y6lqymyZcH2rdoY
@DharmendraKumar-jz6hj
6 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on HAL Tejas
@ottoc8895
6 жыл бұрын
Matsimus If/When the A4 comes out, I hope they change up the charging handle and include a reliable bolt release so you don’t have to reach around in some awkward way to get you gun going.
@callum7018
6 жыл бұрын
L85 A1- NOBODY LIKES YOU L85 A2- Come closer child L85 A3- I'll always love you Senpai
@danw4237
5 жыл бұрын
@Sparrowhark Based on personal experience....?
@imjxshf9188
4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@jay_idk337
4 жыл бұрын
Umm okay I don’t wanna have to explain like how the sa80a2 when made was the best and most accurate on the market Or that the sa80 a3 is even better and still considered the most accurate rifle Cause then I’d feel really dumb And then I bet I’ve only used ar’s or m4 Which then I’d have to explain that the sa80 a3 is better as a bass infantry rifle However I will agree it’s better for special forces like the sas To use the l119a1/2 But as a standard riddle man soldier the sa80 a3 can’t be compared in accuracy
@jay_idk337
4 жыл бұрын
Replace some I’s with u’s autocorrected them if u have half a brain ull know where
@youneszreika
4 жыл бұрын
Why doesn’t anybody love the l86a3 LSW
@thumbsfree5587
6 жыл бұрын
I am in the Grenadier Guards and I can tell you that this weapon is a vast improvement. Although it feels heavier than the previous version it is actually slightly lighter. The weapon system is more balanced as the the A2 was front heavy. Firing the L85A3 feels exactly the same as the A2. All in all, a great weapon, one of the best but I am biased, I thought the A2 was a really good weapon system too. People go on saying there is a flaw by not being able to fire in the left shoulder as well as they right but a skilled operator will be able to do so.
@rob4214
5 жыл бұрын
Does it have a free floating barrel?
@josephnakale7343
5 жыл бұрын
The gun is beautiful my question is are they making complete new L 8 series or they remanufacture old weapons maybe making improvement on old weapons?
@pete.thismoment
5 жыл бұрын
Thumbsfr ee serious question : what happens on Public Duties...?
@para_magnus2200
4 жыл бұрын
Really front heavy? I’ve held the L98A2 and the L85A2 and I always feel as if it was rear heavy
@thumbsfree5587
4 жыл бұрын
@@para_magnus2200 not really mate, the pitcatany hand guard made it balance quite well, unless you had all your bits and bobs attached.
@Wojtek-The-Mighty
6 жыл бұрын
Love how everyone hates on the L85A2 for the A1’s downfalls, but everyone forgets how shite the M16 was when it was first introduced.
@Danny-zi6xw
4 жыл бұрын
Ikr good point mate I was saying that to people for a long long long time, thank you for agreeing with this controversial topic.
@anelbegic2780
3 жыл бұрын
Probably because of all the publishacian of the problems and because of how the government & military reacted (They fumbled the whole thing honestly). Knowing the British though, the L85 will probably go up A10 or more before they make any kind of major new shift. They did exactly that with the enfield and that rifle only really got replaced after WWII but was introduced several years before WWI. The British have a hard time letting go of the past man, just look at all their former colonies and dominions now.
@jasonclaros7073
2 жыл бұрын
Just clean it and you'll be fine the A1 however just fell apart
@ej_22
4 ай бұрын
The m16 problem was the gunpowder and the army wanting to save money than lifes, just look at the xm16
@bodie463
4 жыл бұрын
Forgotten weapons gives a full explanation of the A3 upper mods.
@richardlahan7068
4 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@brianfuller5868
6 жыл бұрын
For all the hater- many of whom have never used any L85. Yes, the A1 was an all- around disaster but the A2 was a marked improvement. The A3 will be better. Very good video and information.
@pwrserge83
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah... funny how most of us who have gone to war with the M4 or M16A4 have very few negative things to say about them.
@d3203
6 жыл бұрын
pwrserge i know enough people who hate the m4.
@pwrserge83
6 жыл бұрын
da ve Pre or post redesign? The early M4s were pretty horrible, but once they re-designed the bolt and feed systems, all the early teething problems disappeared.
@faxx2
6 жыл бұрын
One key selling point of the l85 is how short it is- Which is an advantage to mechanized and Urben ops
@tonypeppermint5329
6 жыл бұрын
pwrserge So the selling point is not really strong?
@Jabber-ig3iw
6 жыл бұрын
So many ‘experts’ in the comments, I’m gonna guess 99.9% have never used the SA80,
@idk-db6jt
6 жыл бұрын
Pretty much
@itsyaboijack229
6 жыл бұрын
And this new one is a British improvement on that German design
@jordanboyle539
6 жыл бұрын
@john martin H&K was British owned at the time.
@karaloca
6 жыл бұрын
john martin Wrong numbnuts, H&K were owned at the time by BAE Systems, a British company.
@ruger9617
6 жыл бұрын
You are correct I have never fired an SA80 rifle I have far to much respect for my face. I only have partial sight in my right eye and a gun that ejects spent cases into the left side of my face with the damage the cocking lever reciprocating I recon five rounds max before thousands of pounds on plastic surgery on the face.
@user-jr2ue9nu6y
6 жыл бұрын
But can it run Crysis?
@mcsammy9980
6 жыл бұрын
hahahaa
@straytakermusic
5 жыл бұрын
Best comment, underrated.
@trundelingporpoise2404
5 жыл бұрын
Lol I have not seen this comment in a looooong time!
@tomasu301
5 жыл бұрын
The joke now is...can it run minecraft
@captainmaf017
4 жыл бұрын
Crysis can run it hehehehe
@MatoVuc
6 жыл бұрын
Well, one of the things that has been improved on the upper receiver to make it more reliable is the improved welding that method, which you can actually see at 06:10. Those "C" shaped welds are there to affix the barrel trunnion, which is a considerable improvement to the previous spot-welding techniques. way more reliable and rigid. Ian McCollum from Forgotten Weapons has a really good video covering the A2 and A3 differences.
@Not_Dio22
6 жыл бұрын
I think what the British is doing with the LA80 is what the Russians have done with a lot of there platforms, make small improvements until they have an almost flawless system.
@prd6617
6 жыл бұрын
yep and its way more cheaper than making/designing/buying a new rifle for the whole army.
@tonypeppermint5329
6 жыл бұрын
Ronald Pradesya Money is important.
@dernwine
6 жыл бұрын
L85 or SA80. Not L80 XD
@Not_Dio22
6 жыл бұрын
dernwine shit, my bad.
@Not_Dio22
6 жыл бұрын
keith moore what...
@Droid_Behaviour
3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video, nice to see the British Army is continuously upgrading their rifle ; yes, in the beginning it was not a very reliable rifle, but since the A2 version, it's now a very reliable rifle. The Daniel Defense rail was very nice, but the new HK type handguard seems to be more suitable to the new requirements of modern battlefield. The new color is nice too, it's a more effective camouflage than a full black rifle, and the full lenght Picatinny rail with an Elcan Specter/piggy back mini red dot sight is a very nice update! I'm French so we don't have the FAMAS anymore, HK416F now, we lost our "typical visual identification" with our domestic rifle, cool to see Great Britain has decided to keep the L85 :) (Sorry for my English, i'm French) Greetings from Lyon, France !
@disaffected_malcontent
Жыл бұрын
your English is perfect!
@youtuber12148
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, there is a possibility that the British Army General Corps will stop using the L85 and replace it with the Knights & Stoner AR-15.
@afriendlycadian9857
8 ай бұрын
@@youtuber12148luckily that's on for the Royal marines and sf so the sa80a3 is being kept
@willworkforcoffee
5 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the Canadian Army brother. The C7A2 will serve you well like it did for me. Support your CCFR as well!
@archie3527
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much mate I would like to say that you keep me motivated to pursue my dream to become a piper in the Royal regiment of scotland Because of you now run a 7 min mile every day and do 40+ press up and sit ups Thank you for helping me become my best
@_Matsimus_
6 жыл бұрын
piper. MILK you are making the effort!! Well done
@archie3527
6 жыл бұрын
Matsimus thank mate
@jimyoung2188
6 жыл бұрын
do you like your wobbly bits swinging in the breeze? That much
@samwelguy
6 жыл бұрын
That intro should be the official British army advert
@MilitaryCombatNetwork
6 жыл бұрын
Good video buddy, I’m looking forward to testing the improved rifle 👍
@MegaAndyman101
6 жыл бұрын
The main difference on the upper recivever is as far as I know a different kind of welding (deep penetration welding or some such) and some tolerance work. I only got to use it for a couple of days a few months ago. All of the recievers and bits are brand new but kind of interchangable with the A2, marked up as A3 though and not really to be used in an A2. It disassembles the exact same way. It also doesn't necessarily come with the quad rail and the pic rails. It does come with the plastic foregrip and a longer length of weaver rail to allow adjustment of the carryhandle sight.
@themadhammer3305
6 жыл бұрын
MegaAndyman101 makes sense for the parts of the A2 and A3 to be interchangeable as it allows for 'conversion kits' to be distributed to troops rather than brand spanking new rifles, probably significantly cuts down on the cost
@davebettey1936
6 жыл бұрын
I loved the SA 80 A1.. Never had problems with it. LSW gunner, Two Tours op Banner. I think the SUSAT sight was great.. Easy to use. Good vid and info.. Cheers
@thecurlew7403
2 жыл бұрын
A1 bits fell of it and super glue was issued to glue on come of it this is not acceptable in combat their was no reason the SLR could have been modernised like dsa arms has done.
@tomstech4390
6 жыл бұрын
Don't scroll down just watch the video, give it a like and move on, whole battalions of warriors in the comments arguing the toss like it's going to change anything at this point.
@edwardzero9275
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the warning mate, I saw a bit of what you mean
@johnpotter4750
3 жыл бұрын
Looks like at Bisley Range, bad hole in his pouch.
@harryroberts166
6 жыл бұрын
There was an A3 at my cadet camp I've just came off and i got to hold it. It seems to be a huge improvement over the A2 just based on it's feel in the hands alone
@bartunthegreat2999
5 жыл бұрын
The A3 receiver uses a new upper receiver with improved welding technology, also the bolt, bolt carrier, trunion and gas piston are of new improved desing. I saw the changes made, and I can tell it improves reliability a lot. Of course, the new picatinny rails on top will make mounting new optics much easier.
@weasle2904
4 жыл бұрын
If you're already replacing everything, just adopt a new rifle. M4s are $400 a pop on contract, cheaper than the ORIGINAL L85A1. Britain tried making their own rifle, spent more than the Americans, and made a disaster of a rifle...
@R.Tafolla
Жыл бұрын
@@weasle2904you have to retrain all your troops as well on manual of arms
@markrainford1219
Жыл бұрын
@@weasle2904 But the M4 is less reliable, less accurate and less powerful?
@weasle2904
Жыл бұрын
@@markrainford1219 the AR-15 has proven to be one of the most reliable firearms of the day, and are MUCH more accurate than the L85 which is based on the AR-18 short stroke piston. Also they shoot the exact same round so I have no f idea what you're talking about lol
@markrainford1219
Жыл бұрын
@@weasle2904 L85 less prone to jamming than M4. Same round yes, except L85 is propelling it down a 21 inch barrel= more power. More accurate? lol
@justintime1218
5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant rifle.. I used the sa80A2 all through my service. No issues at all. Reliable and accurate. The A3 looks great. For those saying it's crap.. is obviously still reading about the a1 version.. which you're about 15+ Years behind.
@TheRealNintendoKid
5 жыл бұрын
Is H&K basically just redesigning everyone's rifles now?
@Mr_Makina
4 жыл бұрын
@Haribo 73 dogs are reliable The A1 was not. Don't insult dogs lmao
@weasle2904
4 жыл бұрын
@Arsene Who? Best in the field... They're selling American rifle derivatives. Half of their guns use American operating systems.
@jackday9730
3 жыл бұрын
yes
@ChrissieBear
3 жыл бұрын
Rule of Acquisition number 34: war is good for business.
@followthegrow108
3 жыл бұрын
Not Israel's tevor rifle
@AnonymousONIagent
6 жыл бұрын
Speaking as an American firearms enthusiast, the L85 should not be as divisive as it is, at least not today. The A1 iteration of the weapon was certainly a disaster, I don't think anyone will disagree with that. But the A2 has certainly brought it up to snuff with its contemporaries and transformed into an effective fighting rifle. But it was not transformed into an excellent rifle. Everything that it does, it does adequately; in no aspect is it generally considered a cut above its contemporaries, and certain minor flaws in the original design still remain. While Heckler and Koch was able to smooth out the function of the rifle, certain aspects of the rifle mostly relating to its form were unable to be reconciled without simply designing an entirely new weapon. The most glaring example of this is the ejection system, a problem shared with a number of other bullpup designs; the location of the ejection port combined with with the rifle's ejection pattern means that the weapon must be shot right-handed in order to avoid having hot brass kicked into the shooter's face. Not only does this require soldiers to learn to shoot right-handed regardless of the hand or eye dominance, but this prevents the user from being able to shoot lefty around corners, forcing the shooter to have to adopt an unnatural stance in order to perform this task, one that is not conducive to proper recoil management, thus causing accuracy to suffer. This is also exacerbated by the fact that unlike nearly every other bullpup that suffers from this problem, there is no option to at least reconfigure the weapon to eject from the opposite side, thus enabling left-handed use (although still not allowing a quick change of firing hands in a pinch). There is good reason why the SAS and SBS have chosen to field primarily AR-15 pattern rifles (Colt Canada C8 carbines and LWRC International UCIWs, specifically) to their personnel instead of L85s, as well as some G36s and some of the older roller-delayed blowback HK rifles. But none of the L85's current issues are what I'd call particularly major or potentially life-threatening to the soldiers who use them, at least when it comes to standard infantrymen. But they are issues nevertheless. In short, the L85 is merely an adequate rifle, not a great one, nor a poor one (discounting the A1, of course) I do, however, totally understand why the L85A3 is being adopted instead of a brand new service rifle. As stated in the video, a large amount of investment has already been sunk into the L85 family of weapons, and the UK government would be wise to squeeze every last ounce of life they can out of the platform before looking to a move to something new. But there's more to this being cheaper than what is stated in the video. With the L85A3 still in fact being an L85, that means that the British military already has armorers who know how to repair and maintain it, and that they already have 90% of the weapon's parts already in their inventory should something break and need replacing. That's a significant amount of cost that now completely does not have to be worried about. So overall I think that the L85A3 is a sensible move on the part of the British MoD, and those of you who do truly enjoy the rifle will get to see it remain in service for a bit longer yet.
@isengard1500
6 жыл бұрын
Good assessment. The A1 was a disaster. There was a Pathfinder platoon that used them in the Lungi Lol confrontation, a book called Operation Mayhem, documented it. The A1s jammed quite a bit in the battle that occurred only well trained single-shots and the GPMG prevented anyone from dying, The Pathfinders after wining a firefight in a village, went after the African terrorists through the jungle and huts. (a lesser trained force would have lost life thanks to the terrible A1), I really do think that the British would have been better served with WW2 Bren guns and L1A1s than the SA80s back then as they performed well in the Falklands War. The A2s and A3s are fine rifles though.
@chrissheppard5068
5 жыл бұрын
You have got to be a civvie.
@leod-sigefast
5 жыл бұрын
Yes a 'knowledgeable American' who has of course fired and fought in combat with the SA80....mmmbbuullshit.
@eriktrimble8784
4 жыл бұрын
While your points are taken well, I think the "commonality" and "cost-effectiveness" of the upgrade are FAR overstated, and that the decision is mostly a political one, not a functional or cost one. (Note I'm going to say "AR" when I mean the M16-class, but, more generally, ANY of the other current generation infantry assault rifles, e.g. G36, et al). Firstly, the cost to upgrade existing inventory to A3 standard is VERY significant, as it was from A1 to A2 standard. The quoted prices to do so are nearly that of a whole new AR platform. Thus, the idea that upgrading the existing A2 inventory to A3 standard would be noticeably cheaper is simply wrong. The same goes for buying new A3s - the cost is MORE than buying new AR platforms, because AR platforms have economies of scale that the L85 simply cannot match. Secondly, when upgrading a A2 to A3, you're taking a USED rifle and replace SOME parts on it. When you replace that with a new rifle (A3 version or another rifle altogether), you get a rifle that is just beginning it's lifespan. Thus, the A2 -> A3 refit upgrade doesn't buy you much. You're taking a used rifle and comparing that to a new one? Thirdly, the "existing parts inventory" is pretty much pointless. The number of parts changed between the A2 and A3 is significant enough that you don't want to be using most of the A2 parts in an A3 model. So what's the point of having that inventory is you can't use it in your new A3? You have to buy a whole bunch of new parts to support the A3 model, so how is that any different than for a whole new rifle platform? Fourthly, while yes, current armorers are "used to" the A2, the difference for them to swap to servicing some other rifle is very low. This is about the only place where there is some sort of significant cost-savings for going to the A3 vs a new rifle. But again, it's likely an overstated cost, as the A3 will require some training as well. It's not a "free" upgrade. Fifthly, there is very little reason to NOT phase in a new rifle at this time. The same argument for the A3 could be used to advocate that Paras and SAS should not be allowed to change from the A2 to something else (which, they obviously have). The UK military is not some monolithic force that once you decide to change a rifle, you have to suddenly buy it for EVERYONE in the entire military the next year. It's a specious argument to assert that this is a problem when buying a new rifle. Lastly, there is very little training costs to be done to swap a soldier between A2 and AR platforms. You're not talking about having to have the average infantry man spend a month to become proficient with using and servicing their new weapon. More like, a week, at best. I've fired both, and with a couple hours of instruction in maintenance added in, I think the difference is a couple of days to move smoothly from the L85 to an AR. That's a trivial (and mostly on-paper-only) difference. Note we're also talking about the "average" infantry guy, some some super-high-proficiency SAS operator. The standard "good enough" marksmanship doesn't take very long to achieve, if the infantryman was already taught the basics of good marksmanship. Fact is, moving the A2 into the Territorials and other reserve formation is entirely reasonable, as is leveraging the existing inventory for use in non-frontline infantry units. This was done when the A1 itself was introduced, and is how ALL major upgrades are handled. You do end up with a small amount of logistical costs to running 2 different rifles, but, frankly, it's overstated significantly, as the vast majority of those folks not only are never deployed outside the UK, but even when they are, they tend to use the equipment that the previous unit left them. So the probability that the UK will have IN THEATER problems with having to support 2 different infantry rifles is very, very small. I really fail to see any cost-based argument that isn't really based on "it's OUR rifle, we can't replace it with someone else's!" political crap. The truth is that the UK could easily get themselves a top-notch current generation rifle for about the same cost as the A3 upgrade. This new rifle would perform better, and would remove the necessity of having to get a new rifle in 10 years. Which, even with the A3, is going to happen. The A3 is simply throwing good money after bad - the truth is that the A2 should never have happened, and something else should have been bought to replace it then. The UK is repeating the same mistake again, with about as weak an excuse as for the A1 -> A2 upgrade.
@TheBucketSkill
3 жыл бұрын
@@leod-sigefast Look, the only reason I believe the A1 was horrible was because of the feedback from soldiers in the Gulf War. So i believe whatever the british soldiers who used them say. Are you a former brit soldier? And if so is the A2 reliable and good? Genuinely curious.
@minuteman4199
6 жыл бұрын
realistically, rifles aren't all that important in the overall scheme of things. I've used FALs, M16 variants and L85s, and I would be happy to go to war with any of them. If you look at statistics rifles don't actually cause that many casualties. If you have good machine guns, mortars, artillery and tanks, the individual soldier could be armed with Lee Enfields and Sten guns, and still win the battle. The most lethal weapon on the modern battlefield is the radio.
@chrisspencer6502
6 жыл бұрын
Minute Man better off with Nokia
@makkaschatsanddits7899
6 жыл бұрын
I agree with you with alot of that
@mememaster147
6 жыл бұрын
Chris Spencer+ Fun fact: Nokia started out making military radios.
@chrisspencer6502
6 жыл бұрын
Meme Master yes but I think it was the bowman system which people joked stood for "Better Off With Map and Nokia"
@mrdrebin123
6 жыл бұрын
Take every edge you can, using a rifle that is actually made with the mindset of how the individual soldier will maneouver there's no reason to toss your money at a l85 it's made fucking upside down, and jams horribly..C8IUR A4- MCX, M4, m16.. I don't even have to explain why they'll beat tha l85 out of the park.
@gustavomiyazono3951
6 жыл бұрын
The A3 designation came before the HK handguard and FDE paint came along, it started as the A3 upper receiver. The changes came after the upper receiver contract in early 2017. Changes to the upper receiver are as follows: Better welding (Deep Penetrating Welding) mainly to improve overall sturdiness and prevent the guide rail from warping. Longer weaver mount with pressed in tabs and lateral welding to improve sutrdiness (was later improved to a picatinny rail).
@CoMoEnTrAsAlE
6 жыл бұрын
They clearly didn't get the memo that M-lok won the battle...
@Alex4n3r
6 жыл бұрын
It's Heckler&Koch's HKey version of the free KeyMod which is apparently just in the opposite direction. I wonder if they demand license fees from equipment manufacturers. It's the British's problem as customers if they don't demand the also free M-lok.
@barrywatts2908
6 жыл бұрын
Emilio yeah strange they went that way. M lock is a lot better. You don't want your parts falling off in a stress full situation.
@jamescameron1635
6 жыл бұрын
Emilio saving that for the A4😂
@brabblemaster401
6 жыл бұрын
Leslie B much of the testing that was done by the US Army is stuff a normal grunt would do. Such as dropping the rifle, hitting it against things, and rezeroing the laser for night vision (mostly SF on that one). Also keymod doesn't have quite as much support behind it anymore.
@Bryan_Kay
6 жыл бұрын
M lock isnt better its just popular right now. Keep in mind there have been many rail systems but we still use the 1913 picatinny rail.
@MaxwellAerialPhotography
6 жыл бұрын
Hey Matsimus, I think you slightly misunderstand Keymod. Keymod and M-Lok are both rail ad on attachment systems developed to replace full piccatiny quad rail systems. The way they generally work is to provide a space on a fore end that allows to attach various length sections of piccatiny rail to the handguard, only as much as needed in order to save weight and provide a smother grip surface. there are a few accessories out their that attach directly to Keymod or M-lok slots, but the vast majority still attach to piccatiny rails which are mount on to the handguard via the Keymod or M-Lok slots.
@fred_ditto
6 жыл бұрын
Sad Doggo Yes, indeed it is.
@MaxwellAerialPhotography
6 жыл бұрын
Sad Doggo I feel like you didn't actually read the Crane report in it's entirety. It said that empirically M-Lok is stronger, not be a huge degree though. M-Lok is a stronger design, but part of the reason why it had better results is that Keymod is an open source design thus there were no qualitative standard to which they were required to be made to unlike M-Lok which is licenced from Magpul. Don't get me wrong I prefer M-Lok but it's not like Keymod is completely useless or obselete.
@MaxwellAerialPhotography
6 жыл бұрын
Sad Doggo that is literally the exact opposite of what I said, I meant that because Keymod is open source there is no quality standard to which it must be made unlike a licenced design like Magpul.
@MaxwellAerialPhotography
6 жыл бұрын
Sad Doggo sorry dude, will amend the previous coment.
@lulu-x6v
5 жыл бұрын
The SA80 a2 to me was like marmite “ you love it or you hate it “ and personally I loved it from basic training to Afghan I never had any real dramas with mine
@gerardpaulbyrne48
5 жыл бұрын
Here in Ireland we've used the steyr since the late 80s. Originally the F. N. And the Bren etc. There's only 7 parts to it and it works and cleans a treat👍 I heard from lads in 1st desert storm that the standard issue for the Tommies kept seizing up? 🤔I hope that's being rectified. Respect to you all lads. Regardless of the uniform worn.
@MarkNorville
4 жыл бұрын
First gulf you mean. Desert storm was the operation name. We were also not tommies, that was a term used during WW2. However, your comment shows no respect, if you cannot even get basic facts correct.
@alexlyster3459
4 жыл бұрын
Seemed respectable enough to me. He acknowledged that what he was saying was second hand information and wasn't just stating it as fact, and clearly there are still places where they call us Tommies. It's not like the name was an insult. The tone of the post was well natured, so why not accept it as such? Respect right back at you Gerard
@NaeMuckle
4 жыл бұрын
Has Ireland been in a war that didn't involve a car bomb?
@NaeMuckle
4 жыл бұрын
Tell that to the protestant loyalists.
@NaeMuckle
4 жыл бұрын
@oyinbo peppe that your mums a mattress?
@Pembroke.
5 жыл бұрын
I have never had the pleasure of using this weapon but I have always loved the design and it's a shame they didn't come out with a left-hand version. However, the weapon I used when I was the Cdn army, the legendary FN C1A1 will always be my favorite, (7.62 mm straight downrange).
@mrgingerninjadan
4 жыл бұрын
The Handguard is now free floating, which means it is attached to the body of the rifle and does not touch the barrel, this in conjunction with new 'C' welds to secure the barrel to the chamber makes the rifle accurate up to 600m, from 400m. The top handguard rail is in line with the body rail so day and night optics can be aligned and used in tandem. The top rail on the body has a new welding process to make it more secure to the body. The TMH has stoppers above and below the Change lever to prevent over rotation. The rail on the inside of the body which the cam stud rides on has been re designed, newer manufacturing process and attachment to the body is improved, as previous iterations of the rail would warp over time. The rear body pin housing is also a little stronger to help prevent the body pins from being pulled out all the way And of course a new paint scheme, not only to help with camouflage but also a protective coating.
@早上好我爱你
6 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, a late night matsimus video to prolong my procrastination
@thebulk5137
6 жыл бұрын
Same
@Accentaur
6 жыл бұрын
Same here
@RunicRhino22
6 жыл бұрын
a level coursework and exams be damned
@D_us_T
6 жыл бұрын
“Good morning, i love you”
@largol33t1
5 жыл бұрын
But Matsimus makes it worth watching. He's always pleasant and makes military videos educational AND fun to watch.
@ookiemand
6 жыл бұрын
Verry cool edit at the start!
@olliecrawford
6 жыл бұрын
Yeh but he didn't make it
@kaneworsnop1007
3 жыл бұрын
Well I still haven't seen this or officially heard anything about it. I actually tried telling someone on KZitem about 6 months ago that the British Army didn't have the A3 and that Heckler and Koch had designed an A3 upgrade off their own back and tried unsuccessfully to sell it to the British Army as that's what I had heard through the millitary. First up if your numbers are correct then it means it's costing just over £500 per rifle for a new grip, a blob of welding by the change lever which isn't needed, a paint job a 1 of the working parts being upgraded. The A2 upgrade cost just over £200 per rifle and saw the majority of the working parts modified or redesigned, the gas parts modified and Teflon coated, a new cocking handle, redisigned locking splines in the breach and on the bolt as well as other things and that was around 15 years ago so inflation wouldn't mean you get far less for 2 and a half times the price! Also with the new foregrip, it doesn't look like you can gain access to the gas parts without removing the foregrip, if that's the case then it's a serious design floor! Admittedly the current foregrip features a top cover hich has been made to such poor tolerance levels that it either pops open when cocking or firing the rifle, or needs to be levered open with the combi tool as its too tight.
@theunion92
3 жыл бұрын
Floating barrel and the weight decrease will be worth it. Takes range from 400m to 1000m. They haven’t rolled out to us yet, b I can’t wait tbh.
@Ezekiel903
3 жыл бұрын
nope, heckler and Koch redesigned the whole system, this was the L85 A, the first model with all this issue, they made al this improvement, and because H/k was a subsidiary company from Enfield it make sense to ask them for help. watch forgotten weapon, but you find also other reliable sources
@ulsternation2673
3 ай бұрын
As a cadet I used the Lee Enfield,in juniors I used the SLR,LMG,SMG.(As an apprentice armourer (REME) got to strip and assemble the L85A1 in 1985. Joining the TA in 1990(R Irish Rangers) used L85A1,MG,GPMG,SMG. L85A2 and finally 5 years after the regular army got them on my very last ACMT(ANNUAL SHOOT) the L85A3,my service ended 3 weeks later.Final act was saluting King Charles at the Royal Albert Hall at The Festival of Remembrance in London.
@matt-f1c
4 жыл бұрын
After nearly 30 years they finally got it right .. May be the best carbine in the world even .. But can it fight George Groves in Wembley stadium in front of 90.000 fans
@ctp.cheekibreeki8992
6 жыл бұрын
1:07 totally didn’t se that guys face
@pymathus2283
6 жыл бұрын
You cant make out his face when hes aiming, but he blurred it for when he stood up showing is whole face.
@drbendover7467
6 жыл бұрын
probably still be use the L85A2 when the rest of the world moves to atomising rail rifles lol.
@Accentaur
6 жыл бұрын
They'd probably have rail rifles in the shape of an L85.
@mikeyforester6221
6 жыл бұрын
that actually sounds bad ass
@Euannac
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah but still get the jobs done. British military is one of the best militarys in the world. It's not about numbers.
@raz_hz
6 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@razgriz1258
6 жыл бұрын
Well great Britain still used the Lee Enfield until the 1980s so that may be fair
@davidw1634
4 жыл бұрын
Always had that one guy who let his spring go flying across the room
@raseli4066
6 жыл бұрын
That intro. .. thats why i love weapons
@Galvars
6 жыл бұрын
Music, you mean that you love music! :D
@raseli4066
6 жыл бұрын
Galvars and guns :D
@casbot71
6 жыл бұрын
I suspect someone watched Baby Driver when syncing the shots to the music.
@Barbaroossa
4 жыл бұрын
Being Brazilian myself, and witnessing the 2+ decades long saga of the Brazilian Army searching for a 556 replacement for the FAL rifle, I can fully understanding the British MOD decision of still sticking with the same platform. Changing the service goes beyond just buying a new gun and plopping it on the laps of every service personnel, it involves retraining thousands of armorers, buying a whole new suit of tools to service the firearm, reprinting new instruction manuals, revising doctrine, retraining hundreds of thousands soldiers, it just costs too much.
@ashipnerdoffical4260
6 жыл бұрын
I feel the biggest drawback with the current l85 is its heavier weight. Personally though I kind of like that. A larger mass helps against recoil so the l85 is very controllable on full auto.
@theimmortal4718
3 жыл бұрын
That footage of the L86 is beautiful
@kevinthornley7659
3 жыл бұрын
Don’t they teach recruits how to correctly load rounds in to a mag anymore. Used the mk1 and it was shite especially after the SLR. I hope the upgrades work well. Can it be shot left handed now.
@jiggerman1000
4 жыл бұрын
...Good, interesting video Matsimus...Thank You for taking the time to put this together, some interesting points brought forward by your Good-self. I personally found the SA80 A1 workable if you new how to look after that particular individual weapon system and it's own, individual quirks and eccentricities. Matsimus, 'Thank You' for your past service UK forces...and Thank you for your ongoing service within the Canadian Forces you serve with now Brother... Stay We, Be Well, Keep Well...and all the Very Best Mate... Very Best Regards Jigger
@owainrichards4372
6 жыл бұрын
Matsimus look at forgotten weapons video called SA80 history. He goes into what they changed about the upper
@nworesistance9834
6 жыл бұрын
Owain richards yh I saw that video. The difference between l85a2 and l85a3 is small
@makkaschatsanddits7899
6 жыл бұрын
all new parts were sprayed red i was told
@bruceinoz8002
5 жыл бұрын
I can remember when the SA-80 was described as "An AR-18 shoved up the arse of an EM-2". I spent a lot of years with the AUG. It was "sold" as light, accurate and low maintenance." Where had we heard that before? "LIght?" Somewhat heavier than the M-16. "Accurate?" Points for that. The powers that be had to redesign the "scoring rings" on the targets because of its better grouping performance by most shooters. (precision, not "accuracy") The "circle of death"" reticule was initially a bit odd for those raised on adjustable aperture sights, but it clicked, eventually. The initial deployment with a "fixed" optical sight assembly (Adjustable but not removable) was OK, but NOT when the actual optical chain was incorrectly assembled by the manufacturer and contained parallax errors, in a 1.5x scope, no less. Eventual change to a Picatinny rail system (new / modified receiver housings) nice, but added a bit more weight. "Low maintenance"? sort-of. The plastic firing mech pack concept is neat, but in dusty conditions, they wear at a ferocious rate. The upside is that it is an easy job to do a complete swap in a very short time. If the baggage and workshop train can keep up the field maintenance, not a bad piece of kit.
@weasle2904
4 жыл бұрын
To be fair the M16 is generally a pretty light rifle. It was designed to be.
@kaneworsnop1007
3 жыл бұрын
Damn accidentally posted before finishing writing. Considering the SLR was designed during the second world war, but wasnt out into production as they couldn't fford the down time in the factories to replace the tooling and it was still in service in the 80s, is there really a need to procure a completely new rifle? Apart from in the jungle it's a highly reliable rifel in all climates, its very accurate. I've only ever used the SA80, but I would hate trying to soldier with a non bulpup rifle, the extra weapon length would be such a ball ache in most circumstances! I understand that a bulpup rifel is more complex, but I can't understand why all militaries aren't using them due to the shorter weapon length making it far more practical in all environments.
@Punisher9419
6 жыл бұрын
The welding on the upper receiver has been changed to a different type of welding. So it doesn't fall apart over time. They are all new receivers. That's pretty much the only part and some furniture. The rifles alright but not the best. Might as well stick with it until something significantly better comes along. There isn't anything that much better. They are better off with getting better boots and uniform to be honest.
@youraveragereloader649
4 жыл бұрын
I've met some British Royal Marines before Most of them Dislike the SA80 Platform They say it's Bulky, Awkward to carry and Rear Heavy But they can't deny the reliability and the accuracy of the SA80 I can probably take their words
@thenb5094
6 жыл бұрын
Fuck, the notification was late. thank god for Discord
@angrynortherner5214
6 жыл бұрын
I had the privilege of using the L85A2 and personally I loved using it, I don’t think the A3 would be a negative or positive personally it looks like a side step, still a great rifle in my eyes, great video!
@jakebrowncollection1772
6 жыл бұрын
They have completely reworked the upper receiver inside and out
@thedr00
6 жыл бұрын
I used the A1 and really liked it, I never really understood why it got so much hate but then again, I never had to use it in a scenario where my life depended on it. Thanks for the video.
@CaptainTwix7
6 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on the Sea King helicopter that has been in use for the maritime since 1963, they have these really cool pods they drop sonobuoys that can detect underwater movement like submarines and such. They are a really cool anti submarine helicopter.
@bigjimTraining
6 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if anyone else has commented on this, but the changes to the upper where changes to the way it's welded. It should stop the uppers from warping over time. It's also where the A3 designation came from. It is an A3 upper, rather than a complete revition to the rifle.
@andrewschulze3865
6 жыл бұрын
Good day sir I was wondering if you will cover the buccaneer jet, I read alot of Tom Clancy and just want to know more also will you ever cover weird and quirky vehicles that were in service like the Atomic Anny Nuclear Cannon, I think it was called the M-51 Atomic cannon
@biddyboy1570
6 жыл бұрын
I took an A2 on a tour once. Didn't get to shoot anyone with it but I was glad to have it with me. If I was going somewhere dangerous I'd pick this over any other rifle. Not cos it's better on paper but because I know it and fits like a glove. It's also very accurate.
@MrSandan03
3 жыл бұрын
Still rather have the SLR 7.62 real stopping power and soldier proof.
@Jabber-ig3iw
3 жыл бұрын
So old and antiquated.
@markknivila8383
3 жыл бұрын
I would love to shoot the LSW version of the L85A3! It just looks like a really sharp weapon, to me! Great video, brother!
@christopherlum4736
6 жыл бұрын
Can’t help but recall L85 in the anime Upotte!!
@christopherlum4736
6 жыл бұрын
Blaze the Amazing u have ur opinion and I have mine don’t push urs on me
@christopherlum4736
6 жыл бұрын
Blaze the Amazing ur the first person to answer me honestly when I pull that response thanks man
@aluxtaiwan2691
6 жыл бұрын
I'm here for the L85 chan I literally buy a SA80A1 AEG because this anime
@mandalorian_guy
6 жыл бұрын
She is my Waifu. She trys her hardest, it's not her fault she's clumsy.
@christopherlum4736
6 жыл бұрын
Mandalorian Gaming its not her fault her firing pin keeps breaking
@largol33t1
5 жыл бұрын
2:40 - VERY good point Matsimus. The US has done the same with the Colt M-16 series. They're squeezing everything they can out of it. The first two versions were real dogs. The version we're on now is called the M4 and with training and redesigns of certain areas such as the bolt and the barrel, the rifle has been massively improved. I WILL say it isn't perfect but at least it won't jam on you within 30 shots!
@TheScottishSpartan
6 жыл бұрын
All the L85A3 prototypes are built on LSW receivers, for some reason. I wish they'd just destroy all the crow cannons to be honest.
@Mjk10957
4 жыл бұрын
LSW aka crow canon 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢 love the A2 but i fucking hate the LSW
@darthsarcastus1064
3 жыл бұрын
Maximus, the change is more in the internal construction of the weapon system, better welds along the bolt carrier assembly guide rails, the welds around the breach assembly where it connects to the upper receiver. The welds on the A1 and A2 actually warped the body of the weapon. Whatever has happened to the exterior is mainly cosmetic and done in order to make newer sight systems and accessories easily attachable.
@mngunisimelane7819
6 жыл бұрын
If it does it’s job it’s good
@ricocaswell3030
6 жыл бұрын
The end of the day as a British soldier myself. If you can't drop a target at 300m regardless of what type of weapon you use. You should not be in the infantry. It's not the rifle, it's the person using the rifle that makes the difference
@napoleonibonaparte7198
6 жыл бұрын
HKey is pretty much only compatible to HK’s attachments and products
@New2Kendo
5 жыл бұрын
The A3 upper reciever has a better spot welding system for the internal rails, which will stop them from getting warped. HK knows what they are doing and the upgrades will only make the system more reliable and robust
@devidyx99
6 жыл бұрын
German worth work in it. 🇩🇪👍 But the A2 version foregrip looks way better in my mind. Now the L85 have the same foregrip like the new G36's. Everything new from Heckler&Koch.
@forestalfrank1074
6 жыл бұрын
Just write "Wertarbeit" or " German craftsmanship" "woth work" doesn't make any sense gg^^
@nige601
6 жыл бұрын
I'm a REME veteran and I knew the L85 was a bag of spanners before it was issued. In conversations with my armourer pals and having read official reviews/reports it should never have been issued before ALL the problems were sorted. The government at the time did not care about these problems because they had a vested interest in making money, they also showed scant regard for the boys that were going to be using it. I left the service in 87 and only got round to getting a chance to firs one in 2003, I was impressed with the accuracy but nothing much else.
@bruhman9774
6 жыл бұрын
Are you able to talk about your transition into the Canadian Military ?
@erikgood732
10 ай бұрын
The saws pitch for this was “The SA80,well it’s better than throwing rocks”
@kunicross
6 жыл бұрын
What many people overlook is, that changing the rifle platform does come with a whole lot of follow up problems and costs - it's not just the rifle cost but the whole technical package (Maintenance, vehicle mounts....) and then don't forget the whole re-training and changes to tactics etc. That's a whole lot of costs without much gain - it's the same with the US trying again and again to replace the M16 but sticking with the platform or all those NATO countries which did stick to 7.62x51 for ages (where the practical difference is much bigger than between one 5.56 assault rifle and the other). I would guess the British military will take a good look onto how well France manages going from a bullpup to normal design and include that in its own plans. And knowing militaries around the world its more than likely that the A3 will be in British service till 2035. 😂
@jugganaut33
6 жыл бұрын
There is literally nothing wrong with the A3 staying in service.
@pwrserge83
6 жыл бұрын
jugganaut33 Other than the fact that it's an overweight piece of shit with all the reliability of a Hugo... yeah... "nothing wrong"
@PaddyInf
6 жыл бұрын
pwrserge Aaaannndd the uneducated speaks. Too heavy? Depends on what you're used to. The weight distribution is all at the back so you barely notice it, and it balances nicely. Don't like it? Get on your arms and get bigger. Unreliable? Still beats most other service rifles on the market in reliability tests, and has confirmed this in the last 2 major conflicts, with excellent reliability after action reports.
@pwrserge83
6 жыл бұрын
"Get stronger" is a retarded answer. Infantry loadouts are a zero sum game. Every pound I'm carrying in rifle is one pound less I could be carrying in something else.
@PaddyInf
6 жыл бұрын
pwrserge it was a tongue in cheek answer. Seriously, I have carried the SA80 for almost 3 decades, most of that as an infantryman. I've carried it over many thousands of miles over the years on about a dozen operational deployments as well as on countless exercises in desert, temperate, jungle and arctic conditions. It really makes me scratch my head when people complain about the weight of the weapon. It's a couple of pounds more than a M4 but really not that heavy. Its like anything - you get used to it quickly.
@9SS94Cr
6 жыл бұрын
Maybe someone already said this, but a- Keymod is for you to attach additional sections of Picatinny rails onto it, usually by using fastening screws and backplates. This is a natural evolution of the old quad rail systems mostly to reduce weight. Most of the time you don't really need side rails, and when you need it, it is surely not necessary to go full length. By using Keymod, you maintain the options of mounting lasers or other small equipment onto the side of the forend, without carrying the weight of the rails that you don't need.
@Wanderer628
6 жыл бұрын
Matsimus: I like the L85. Viewer who has never actually used the gun: Reeeeeeeeeee!
@jaymac7203
2 жыл бұрын
I'm just glad our forces don't have sub par weapons anymore, there's no excuse for that!
@petesheppard1709
6 жыл бұрын
Don't feel too bad. There are still Yanks who haven't gotten past the M16's problems from the 60s!!
@weasle2904
4 жыл бұрын
*What?* The M16 solved it's problems after only a few years in service with the M16 to the M16A1. The fact people blindly believe myths is saddening. The issues were a result of meddling with the rifle by the the Army Ordnance, they were upset the M16 was privately developed unlike their government headed M14. So they decided to screw it over (allegedly), by using cheap surplus powder that radically changed pressure and bolt velocities, leading to malfuntions, and not chrome lining the barrel. These being fixed with the M16A1 directly after, and even years before by using new buffer springs on M16's. Soldiers liked the M16 substantially more than the M14, and their combat effectiveness were statistically improved. The Brits took 10 years for SOMEONE else to fix their rifle, and it's still a dog. The modern AR-15/M16 system is one of the most reliable systems, and it's why its still one of the world's most popular rifles
@leonowak6209
3 жыл бұрын
British army is the best. I saw young British soldiers in north east Poland .They show his equapment , scout car and fire arm Sa 80. Amazing gun !!!!!
@AllericEnslin
5 жыл бұрын
Intro ends at 0:50 . Thank me later for saving you 50 seconds of your life
@_Matsimus_
5 жыл бұрын
TX3 Ulti hahahaha cute
@moonmanmoonman6265
2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s an old weapons platform that needs to be revised , it’s nearly 40 years from its issue . If you looked back from 1985 40 years we were using the Lee Enfield before the semi automatic version of the Fabrique National FAL I would love to see something like the G 36 being issued. As an ex RFN of the Royal Green Jackets era it would be great to see everyone that has come after us get some quality kit which is up to purpose, reliable and durable.
@garybromiley7250
6 жыл бұрын
I still take a SLR over any L85 variant i like my guns to have stopping power which probably explains why my unit got L85a1 I switched to GPMG I always hate a pea shooter
@makkaschatsanddits7899
6 жыл бұрын
but you dont have a choice you dont just say, na sergeant im grabbing a GPMG instead.
@garybromiley7250
6 жыл бұрын
you do when your the only one in your company trained in SF with GPMG
@rodreilly4686
6 жыл бұрын
Gary Bromiley it's not a gun
@stevepalpatine2828
3 жыл бұрын
I got the chance to fire an L85A2 in Afghanistan (the one HK fixed) despite it's horrible reputation I don't have any malfunctions, although I only put a couple of magazines through it. I prefer my M4, and certainly my hand built ARs I have at home and my X95, but it wasnt bad. The trigger is squishy and awful but that's a problem I've noticed with all bullpups, the sear being so far back and the transfer bar means you have to put each individual weapon in with a talented Smith to get the best out of it. I spent about $300 getting the trigger on my X95 to a state where I'm happy with it. I'm not a fan of the SA80 platform, but the one I had the chance to fire wasnt what I'd been expecting, I was pleasantly surprised. I'm not a fan of bull pups personally. Since I got my X95 it's been growing on me, but I'll always prefer the AR platform.
@user-ve8ry1xw8v
6 жыл бұрын
SCAR 17 for the win!!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@hansstrouf
5 жыл бұрын
SAR H
@finnmartin281
6 жыл бұрын
It looks so much more modern and sleek. Hopefully I'll get to use one in the future sometime.
@alantorres7916
6 жыл бұрын
ALL HAIL ARE LORD AND MONG SAVIOR MATSIMUS 🙏🙏🙏 #bringbacktheEmpire
@Swat_Dennis
6 жыл бұрын
The new foregrip kind of looks like the one from the AUG A3, gotta say, it makes the gun look cooler too! But being able to put on a grip as standard I think is a good thing… that could make a big difference and making it even more modular is not bad either…
@harryvj6397
6 жыл бұрын
Such a sexy design ❤️❤️
@dustinrobinson58
5 жыл бұрын
the only problem I ever had was my gas parts exploding and destroying the plastic hand guard on a night ambush. luckily no injuries. but a very accurate rifle in the right hands.
@brabblemaster401
6 жыл бұрын
Why do they keep spending money on the gun. For the price they have put into the upgrades they could have bought more C8 (Canadian built M4). The going price a few years ago for a M4 was $640. The gun has gotten better since the A2 upgrade fixing the reliability problems but the gun is heavy and the ergonomics are trash; even for a bullpup. And I do love my Tavor bullpup. I have meet a few Royal Marines and most have said they all prefer their C8 over the L85s.
@kieranwilliams5148
6 жыл бұрын
Since when have the Royal Marines used a C8 weapon, L85 is standard issue. Only unit that I can recall ever using C8 is the SAS and SBS.
@MrTangolizard
6 жыл бұрын
Brabble Master if we were to by a AR type rifle I would assume we wouldn’t by a direct gas impingement one but the 416 by H&K but seeing as it wouldn’t really increase the British army’s lethality by doing so I can’t see why they would whenever a rifle is replaced it should really offer something more and to be honest it wouldn’t
@thomas1brad
6 жыл бұрын
Kieran Williams 43 commando use the C8
@MrTangolizard
6 жыл бұрын
TB 2018 only for nuclear defence or ship boarding
@thomas1brad
6 жыл бұрын
MrTangolizard yep I know was just saying that the C8 is used by those other than UKSF.
@justlee596
Жыл бұрын
The a2 for me was a really good rifle and I never had any problems with it as long as it was properly maintained.
@thelieutenant7732
6 жыл бұрын
Personally, I just don't like bullpups, sorry man, I know it's efficient and compact, but I just hate how they feel ergonomically
@MyWatchIsEnded
6 жыл бұрын
The Lieutenant they should adopt a P90-esque magazine feeding system through the internal body of the rifle. Imagine the mag being at the front like a normal rifle, but when the gun is loaded the rounds get fed to the rear of the gun and into the chamber. It would fix the awkward mag changes. Hell directly copy the P90 style mag on to a bullpup and it would be perfectly easy to use.
@thelieutenant7732
6 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the DPRK's AK74s? They have these extended drum mags that hold like 150 rounds, slap on of those on an L85, heaviest thing you gotta carry
@jameson1239
6 жыл бұрын
That’s actually me
@Berthrond
6 жыл бұрын
Don't worry Lieutenant as long as you remember to lift with your PFC's instead of your knees the weight difference would make no difference at all :)
@chaz8758
6 жыл бұрын
I used the SA80 for over 16 years, never had no problems with the ergonomics, most people I see who complain about Bullpups being awkward have never used them - they may have fired one but they have not carried and used them.
@thijs6264
3 жыл бұрын
The keymod allows you to ad rail sections, not attachments themselves. Its designed to keep the weight down. Still a great vid man💪🏻
@unsungdrummer
6 жыл бұрын
That is one hideous hunk of weaponized metal. Just plain fugly'. And they went with Keymod over MLOK? Well.
@onahi2002
6 жыл бұрын
Anyone that has anything bad to say about this weapon system clearly has never used it, especially on operations. The A2 was a very good platform. The A3 more improvement. Thanks for the video.
@mixedfootage8010
6 жыл бұрын
Just let it die already
@pymathus2283
6 жыл бұрын
lul
@Killerpixel11
6 жыл бұрын
The A3 is just the various UORs being officially "ratified" and polished. The troops had need for something when they were in Afghanistan and they needed it quickly. They got the DD rails and the ACOGs for their rifles and SIG pistols as sidearms. None of that was actually fully adopted, tho. Now things are being made official, with the Glock becoming the new service sidearm and the rifles getting modern equipment for everyone.
@downrange4073
6 жыл бұрын
The L85 series needs to be scrapped. Limeys need a new weapon system. M16 needs to be changed up as well to something like the HK 416. Maybe .224 Valkyrie or 6.5 Creedmore or 6.5 Grendel. I do like the ballistics of the .224 Valkyrie if the military wants to stay with a similar round to the 5.56. Of course there always is the 6.8 SPC but I am not too familiar with that round. But really... only life extension to 2025? Just 7 years? Waste of money.
@jameson1239
6 жыл бұрын
Pickle Rick but testing and buying a new gun is even more expensive
@kieranwilliams5148
6 жыл бұрын
The 2025 life service was the date that the L85 was due to be replaced but with this upgrade it'll probably be in service till 2035 or 2040 max. A2 was a good weapon, it was just the A1 that was rubbish due to Enfield getting poor materials. If the materials weren't rubbish and it had the proper materials control then A1 probably would have been a decent rifle. Also, theres been talk for the last few years of changing the standard NATO caliber and rounds so making a new rifle now would be pointless and a waste of money if in ten to twenty years time the standard NATO caliber changes.
@chaz8758
6 жыл бұрын
The SA80 had good and bad points when it was introduced (I used my first one in 1985 - the worst of its issues had gone within a year or two of entering service - apart from lack of being able to fire left handed). It was never as bad as people make out (particularly since most of them have never carried the weapon nor fired it, they may have shot a Bullpup at some time and hated it because it was different though). I personally never had the issues that it is slammed with (I carried one till I left the British army in 2007, joined the regulars in 1983), I never saw all the huge problems it supposedly had (it had some big ones when introduced but they were fixed quickly). When it entered service every infantry soldier went from iron sights to a 4x optic as their unit was issued them (as well as some other troops and all LSW gunners), this made a big difference on accuracy and distance shooting. It was much handier than traditional weapons in vehicle and FIBUA, while outranging carbines due to it still having a full barrel length.
@jugganaut33
6 жыл бұрын
just saying that the experts and Defense staff in charge of war fighting capability Who get paid a HECK of a lot more then you buddy have decided to keep it. Why? because not everything has to be american to be good. stop fooling yourself and be patriotic for one miserable second of your life.
@pwrserge83
6 жыл бұрын
jugganaut33 Yeah... it has nothing to do with the fact that the US military has been refining the M4/M16 platform for more than 50 years or anything... Oh... wait... they have. The reality is that a modern M4 is probably the best infantry combat rifle on the planet. It's light, it's handy, it has adequate range and stopping power when compared to other 5.56x45 firearms, and most importantly it's dead nuts reliable after 50 years of incremental design improvements.
@lee4171
Жыл бұрын
9 years of service, the A1/2 never let me down. No experience of others, apart from the odd play on AKs' and AR15s'. All about the training at the end of the day. And GB remains at the pinnacle.
@megastack95
3 ай бұрын
Something about the SA80 platform just makes me patriotic. The first variant was piss and we learned that the hard way. Asked Germany for some help and now have a good functioning rifle. I just love that when you see someone with the L85 you know they're most likely British! This along with the new AR platform the Royal Marines may be inducting is just awesome.
@gilanbarona9814
6 жыл бұрын
I served with the Philippine Army's scout rangers. We once received a sample of the older L 85A1 for evaluation as a possible replacement for our M 16A1. None of us who tried it liked it very much, and for me, the fact that it was impractical and near impossible to fire it left handed was a problem. I suppose the A3 version shares this same issue. We ended up acquiring the Steyr AUG. We were impressed by the SUSAT however. That was it's sole redeeming quality.
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