You could not begin to calculate the lack of interest I have in yet another live service.
@Blisterdude123
3 сағат бұрын
@@McGalahad Start from zero, and go down from there in my case lmao
@ThePowerOfOneThePowerOfTwo
3 сағат бұрын
It was a hard sell for me when they announced it as an extraction shooter. I my mind closed completely shut when they shifted to a hero based shooter. I’m just exhausted with hearing these qualifiers in the gaming industry
@mchammer5592
3 сағат бұрын
I head about a 1-ton super-powered microscope in Arizona. Worth a shot 🤔
@izzaazzurri
3 сағат бұрын
Honestly, im excited for marvel rivals and mecha break.
@JoeHodgiex
3 сағат бұрын
Which is why you clicked on and commented on a video about….a live service game?
@Jakco808
4 сағат бұрын
Luke is rolling out content a rapid pace! I like it
@TheForever206
3 сағат бұрын
Im about as interested in a new Bungie game as my first colonoscopy in 10ish years. 😮💨
@mckinleyostvig7135
2 сағат бұрын
I mean I would like a Bungie game just not an extraction shooter.
@chrisborges7344
2 сағат бұрын
Bungie is just a husk of it's former self. All that's really left that matters is... Jason?
@KeirnothVT
18 минут бұрын
@@mckinleyostvig7135The Bungie that made Marathon in the 90s is long gone.
@KevinKoolx
3 сағат бұрын
It was "too much water" lol
@xTYBOx
3 сағат бұрын
The only reason “hero shooters” even exist is to sell skins. They’re literally made to sell costumes. Why cant we get a great AAA FPS shooter that isn’t a money sink anymore?
@elvickRULES
3 сағат бұрын
I fully agree that if they go forward with $40 then they are going to be compared directly to Concord even more. And it’ll be an uphill battle. Especially if it’s another hero shooter, even if they’re doing something unique. Battleborn couldn’t even shake Overwatch comparison and it wasn’t even a hero shooter, it was a MOBA in its MP, and it had a campaign with co-op that let you utilize MOBA style leveling for different ability builds. *If* it’s a really great game, they need to push it into people’s hands. Not just a free public beta will be enough if they want to charge money. Sony set a bad precedent with how they rolled back on Concord. People are going to be very wary buying another game by them for $40, if they just take it all down before a month has even passed just because it wasn’t financially what they wanted. Concord didn’t happen in a vacuum. But it should be interesting to see what happens.
@GoodBoyGoneDad
3 сағат бұрын
They gave everyone who bought Concord a refund, which is honestly a big deal. Sony has a history of offering everyone a refund when a game fails at launch or is too far off the advertised product. No Man's Sky, Cyberpunk, Concord, etc. The way Sony handled Concord gave me the message that if Marathon fails, then it doesn't matter because Sony will refund your money. Although i no longer buy games since there's really no point with subscription services. Everything i want to play eventually ends up on either PS+ or Gamepass, so I'm able to play multiple games per month for considerably less money.
@elvickRULES
2 сағат бұрын
@@GoodBoyGoneDad no they didn’t. Cyberpunk was removed so they wouldn’t have to, and even with refunds it didn’t come close to everyone. And to at was because CDPR, Sony was mad they told people to refund through Sony without telling Sony. Don’t remember anything over NMS either. Concord is a unique case study, it is not a good selling point to a new live service game that if it doesn’t pop off they’ll just shut it down. That sends th e message to not even bother, because if you like it it will just get shut down if others didn’t buy it.
@RO1AND808
3 сағат бұрын
Hero shooters allow for more egregious monetization. Bungie wants to sell $30 skins that can only be applied to a single character.
@YourBlackLocal
2 сағат бұрын
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Valorant is a hero shooter and only sells weapon skins/charms.
@chinyson1023
Сағат бұрын
@@YourBlackLocal Overwatch
@YourBlackLocal
Сағат бұрын
@@chinyson1023 The person who made Marathon a hero shooter is literally from Valorant. Which again, doesn’t have hero skins. Because they aren’t anywhere as lucrative as good gun skins.
@paradopx8618
Сағат бұрын
@@YourBlackLocalyou mean rip off* got it and Fortnite wants to have a word with you about skins and lucrative money making lmao
@YourBlackLocal
Сағат бұрын
@@paradopx8618 Its almost like Fortnite isn’t an FPS game genius… You know Fortnite is a third person game right? Not a FPS hero shooter like Marathon or Valorant
@bigbox1431
3 сағат бұрын
Paul Tassi lol
@darkmattergamesofficial
Сағат бұрын
Multiplayer only games should always be free to play. The reason is that if the game dies out or loses support, you have nothing left! SP games at least can be played forever, so your money was spent on something concrete.
@bartonlynch
3 сағат бұрын
Marathon is an early IP from Bungie during their Macintosh only days of the 90's. The version they are cooking now, resembles nothing of the original. Nothing.
@xTYBOx
3 сағат бұрын
The old marathon games were so fun. There’s a wealth of sci-fi shooter there to make a great game and we got this….
@22caught
Сағат бұрын
Those newer bastards at Bungie couldn’t help themselves like Hollywood rebooting old franchises only to butcher the original idea.
@justindiaz7860
3 сағат бұрын
Marathon will be another concord lol even the names are identical
@goufr3540
2 сағат бұрын
If Sony were smart, they should of ditched this plan completely, especially after the massive loss with Concord. They just need to refocus and restructure, cause neither Marathon nor Fairgames look to be moving any needles.
@nerobiblios4086
3 сағат бұрын
I do feel like people are heavily underestimating the influence of GTA6, I still remember when GTA5 released back in the day, and it was insane. GTA6 WILL affect other games and it will affect them for a good long while. It's going to put the entire gaming landscape in a chokehold for like 6-7 months, much like how Elden Ring did, but ever more severe.
@uther10
4 сағат бұрын
Going to be super difficult when you have games like Marvel Rivals coming out for free!
@XNyvedX
3 сағат бұрын
40$ price tag and a battle pass disgusting, I won't even touch this with a 10 foot pole.
@BeloSZN
9 минут бұрын
Luke! You can't forget Arc Raiders! It's an upcoming extraction shooter being made by the Finals devs. It's also being priced at $40!
@SubzeroBlack68
2 сағат бұрын
There are a lot of "last chance" games for all these massive companies...
@DakotaRose2546
59 минут бұрын
Wasn't the agreement that Destiny 2 was to be completely separate from Sony control, and that one - if not the - main reason for purchasing Bungie was for their "games as a service" expertise (which was supposedly why the Last of Us 2 got cancelled?). Bungie is certainly infamous for their aggressive mtx, as Destiny 2 is riddled with it. As far as Marathon goes, maybe they should test the waters with an open beta just to see how many people are actually really definitely interested 🙂
@blackdoc6320
Сағат бұрын
I honestly think that the biggest problem with "Premium products" of past years, is that they don't feel like Premium Products. For the most part, the ones that are "Premium" but fail, have incredible or at least mostly incredible graphics, super detailed worlds and clutter, decently good animations and characters, but it's all just soulless or broken. Like they look really good in a screen shot but then you play them and it just feels cheap and boring.
@Mark-sd4hv
2 сағат бұрын
As someone who loved Marathon and still replays it, this game does nothing for me. I don't even see the resemblance
@cd8815
2 сағат бұрын
It's just a name, probably most of the dev team never played the originals
@LU6TIE
4 сағат бұрын
I really hope marathon is good love the lore.
@Athasin
4 сағат бұрын
I have no faith in this project because it was Sony's attempt to get into the extraction genre the same way Concord was Sony's attempt to make an Overwatch competitor. And after Concord's failure I know they're doubting everything.
@Blisterdude123
3 сағат бұрын
This will probably only be 'Marathon' in name only. It was already weird as hell cashing in on the name value of such a niche IP. Can't imagine they'll be doing anything to really connect it to the old games.
@D4C_LoveTrain1
3 сағат бұрын
I do too man, I get people hate live service but mindlessly hoping a game fails isn't very cash money.
@KeirnothVT
17 минут бұрын
@@D4C_LoveTrain1You can hope a game to fail when the devs and management are doing the wrong thing. Knock it off with the corporate butt kissing.
@ckling217
50 минут бұрын
Do you think they are just going to kill off the current GTA Online? Or do you think people that purchase GTA 6 will get additional content in GTA Online and others that only play GTA online wll be able to pay for an upgrade? A lot of people already have a lot invested in the current GTA Online...
@ajfgaming7387
4 сағат бұрын
Luke, did you see that Bethesda thinks people will be disappointed with TES 6?
@mckinleyostvig7135
2 сағат бұрын
Well it's made on the Creation Engine so
@SilverSpectre266
Сағат бұрын
Every game fights an uphill battles once they announce its live service, especially multiplayer only. Helldivers 2 got lucky with it being meme'd to death and the community practically doing the marketing run for them. Plus the game isnt PvP, which for a "premium" game is a bonus because its much even harder on top of all that to convince most people to part with money on that scale for a live service game that costs that much up front. For this...idk. The fact that its premium and PvP focuses will put it at an even stronger disadvantage, especially if its really an extraction game. Its happened before, but those were by dedicated devs and studios that wanted it to succeed no matter what. Not big corps and investors who wanted their money and wanted it now.
@TheMrNukeman
4 сағат бұрын
This is the only of the three Sony live service games I had any hope for... Concord and Fairgames or whatever both looked trash but Marathon is intriguing...
@fseiba6718
3 сағат бұрын
But how the gameplay looks is still a mystery. I also hyped for the game cus bungie might be lazy but they can make fun gameplay.
@lucasLSD
2 сағат бұрын
The setting is peak, I wonder how the mystery thing would've worked originally
@alpsalish
Сағат бұрын
Marathon is only interesting in art style and because we know so little, but interesting is different from interested. I agree.
@XerrolAvengerII
2 сағат бұрын
Concord 2: Destiny boogalo?
@richard-or3ur
Сағат бұрын
Favorite and most fair guy out here. Just tells it how it is
@Daniel-Lonsdale
Сағат бұрын
bro i love just chilling and listing to your shit love you work brother keep up the great content.
@SilverSpectre266
Сағат бұрын
It wouldnt honestly be funny if GTA6 caused literally other game to just not release in 2025 out of fear of low sales. Though personally, I've never been big on GTA, but I respect it and acknowledge its accomplishments.
@SIlverbullet108
2 сағат бұрын
I'm really starting to wonder if GTA6 is going to be that huge to be honest. There are many concerning rumors floating around that game and gamers are feeling very defiant in general. It could be a time for surprises.
@slawskigeorge
3 сағат бұрын
I thought we learned this from the successful launches of Brink, Concord, and Titanfall 1 (compared to Titanfall 2 with an actual campaign)? How many times do we need to keep teaching you this lesson old man?
@ThePowerOfOneThePowerOfTwo
3 сағат бұрын
Just imagine this; if this game flops, Bungie would’ve sacrificed their rabid destiny audience for a game that nobody wanted….
@lordrams9058
2 сағат бұрын
If i can't create and customize my own character the game is dead to me. If i do i can even consider the 40$
@mchammer5592
3 сағат бұрын
Forget the game mechanics, talk to me about what skins and loot can I purchase? Is there some kind of storefront I can peruse? 🤔
@22caught
Сағат бұрын
I feel ‘new’ Bungie could learn from Jurassic Park. They dug up a franchise, one that built Bungie, twisting it into some hero extraction shooter that they’ve no experience with, no one asked for, and now selling it. It has massive potential for a horrible disaster of a game.
@TorqueBow
Сағат бұрын
i think not having even a barebones character creator for Marathon is already damaging the game as it is. I don't think people want hero shooters anymore
@emceha
3 сағат бұрын
As Fryer said, there are two prices, Zero and everything else, it might bite them in the chicks
@CallTheDocter
3 сағат бұрын
Oh boy it gonna be a miracle if Marathon becomes successful.
@DNDaMD
2 сағат бұрын
Lol Sony really out here charging for a f2p live service slop.
@DJ-wl5qo
Сағат бұрын
Shame this is probably gonna bomb because I really like the first cinematic
@deezy1270
2 сағат бұрын
I remember seeing the first trailer when it was announced and I was initially really excited, but now I feel like it’s building up to a massive disappointment.
@TwoHandedChargedBonk
2 сағат бұрын
I love the size of Ls Sony is taking now after opening an office in Commiefornia and going the regarded live service route. May thy Ls cleanse thou of thy delusions Sony.
@Heretican
2 сағат бұрын
People that play games like Tarkov probably arent gonna be super interested in a game like Marathon with Heroes, I dont see it
@cristopher8186
59 минут бұрын
I’m hoping it’s good but I have a bad feeling about it
@kirobz
3 сағат бұрын
I don’t understand why people want a f2p game with hundreds of microtransactions instead of a premium game. $40 isn’t even that much. I’m not into live service games that much anyways.
@jmo8391
2 сағат бұрын
Because Bungie will never just sell you a game for $40 dollars. They will sell you the game + expansion pass + battlepass + premium skins + characters. Basically Selling a retail game with F2P monetization. The proof is in Destiny.
@chrisborges7344
2 сағат бұрын
@@jmo8391 Yup, this is why.
@Flyhi808
2 сағат бұрын
Sony has the Concord L and they’re about to get duped on Matathon 😂
@verum117
Сағат бұрын
Sony been on loosing steaks recently sheesh
@oscaroska7613
Сағат бұрын
Are people ok with 70$ priced game with cosmetic to buy ?
@GreenBro11
3 сағат бұрын
GTA 6 online is gonna be the final boss of the gaming industry.
@fseiba6718
3 сағат бұрын
We should fight against it by not buying it.
@petros9711
3 сағат бұрын
Speaking of extraction shooters, check out Forever Winter - going into early access tomorrow and it looks amazing!
@aBadWizard
2 сағат бұрын
@@petros9711 imo the gameplay looks aggressively mid.
@KiazaKadaj
2 сағат бұрын
yea i refuse to play a game with hero’s in it unless it’s a moba.
@chrispeace4181
2 сағат бұрын
if they really tried and make good live service game it could actually work.
@lucasLSD
3 сағат бұрын
I mean tarkov is still 50$, it's not a big genre yet, there are very few competitors and only 1 is free, though I wasn't thinking about the finals, but arena breakout, the finals IS about player fighting, there's no stealthing around, unlike tarkov and arena.
@kleeklee4572
Сағат бұрын
The only live service I want is PUBG with ue5 update
@surfin392
Сағат бұрын
I may own a PS5, but I couldn't care less about hero shooter live service games...
@monkeybrains5077
2 сағат бұрын
I might be crazy but I’m starting to feel like this game isn’t even real
@Kirtahl
24 минут бұрын
Marathon did not age greatly. But to scrap that art and go MP only. Idk man, I will look at it. But it's not really marathon.
@CraaaaaabPeople
2 сағат бұрын
Concord 2.0
@dannysmi7162
3 сағат бұрын
I’m sure it’ll be great. Just not something that I’m buying.
@CaymanS-ug8ii
34 минут бұрын
So let`s say there is: CONCORD Fairgame$ = CONCORD 2.0 (For sure) Marathon = CONCORD 3.0 (Maybe) I really wish Bungie just the best, because Marathon looks very interesting. For maybe it will not fail hard, but will get stuck in a playercount that is just "neat"... And a half year later it ends up like XDefiant or worse, because the most people are leaving already. For this moment actually, it`s looking not that good. Even without GTA 6.
@BrunoUtech
16 минут бұрын
as if Marathon will be successful... i mean, Concord was made by Ex Bungie devs 🤣🤣🤣
@KeirnothVT
20 минут бұрын
Guys. I'm tired, boss. As someone who grew hp with the Marathon franchise as a Mac user, this pretty much cements the fact Marathon is dead. Sony is using its corpse to print money, and its designs are bland and uninspired. God I hate modern gaming so much.
@deadterrorrist
3 сағат бұрын
Please cancel it. Before it's too late.
@flaneur1917
2 сағат бұрын
Around 15,000 people are still playing destiny 2 even with it’s lack of content. The game was launched at full price $60 with each expansion being around $30. I would agree with your points if this was bungie’s first game or something - with their established player base they’ll be fine (I know, my best friend is one of those players).
@Smdjrjj
44 минут бұрын
Sony is fucked
@andrewrehrig1938
Сағат бұрын
Zero chance I even try this game. Played destiny for 8 years and watched them destroy it.
@SnailHatan
2 сағат бұрын
I hope Marathon turns out to be a good game. I’ve been dying for a solid Bungie game for over a decade
@graemeorr5884
24 минут бұрын
Paul Tassi opinions are worthless even if he is right about this game
@acenoble8197
3 минут бұрын
My personal opinion here and maybe I'm the only one who thinks in this way. But I'd rather pay a 40$ upfront cost whit some real "micro" transactions (10 to 20$) rather than the free to play premium not so microtransactions (40 to 60$ skins + mounts whatever). Concord honestly just was not an appealing game. Gameplay wise and artsyle.
@calebmoss802
2 сағат бұрын
Im just so tired of extraction shooters and tactical pvp shooters. This is just going to be another game that I avoid because with any kind of story mode theirs nothing to keep me interested.
@christianlaw1992
3 сағат бұрын
They could have bought the Minnesota timberwolves for the price of bungie.
@darkmattergamesofficial
Сағат бұрын
This game looks very uninteresting. Cool cinematic trailer does not convince me anymore lol
@sol5916
3 сағат бұрын
I think first person games are slowly dying. People caught on that it’s just lazy development
@iDriveAhondaCivic
Сағат бұрын
No one cares about another live service title. No one cares about this stupid looking game
@xbotLife
23 минут бұрын
I’d be more interested in a Destiny 3 than this garbage. DOA just like concord.
@michelians1148
58 минут бұрын
Another sad wokeflop incoming.
@bryandong
2 сағат бұрын
Marathon = Concord V1.5 👎
@RandomDude1842
3 сағат бұрын
What happened to making things cool. Customizable characters are cool; hero’s are not.
@dimasta9385
2 сағат бұрын
3:00 which extraction shooter is FTP?
@SoldierBoy3064
2 сағат бұрын
Well there be a psn requirement on pc? If so it's dead on arrival... Not literally dead it will have like 40,000 max concurrent but that's not a huge success
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