M3 with a manual. Edit: didn't realize these were all wagons
@Tavarish21
Жыл бұрын
M3
@lovemoremunhenga269
Жыл бұрын
M3
@philippebeinaerts
Жыл бұрын
So the AMG uses MORE fuel than the non-hybrid BMW. They’ve absolutely ruined it … for nothing. Baffling
@Bahamuttiamat
Жыл бұрын
wokeium.
@boogboog8097
Жыл бұрын
EU goal is to end ice production and in fact to destroy the economy of Europe. Look up EU beyond growth and the Degrowth green agenda. You won't believe it.
@KingofInterns
Жыл бұрын
Yep it is shocking 😲 my nearly 20 year old 5.4L C55 V8 estate will get 30-33 UK mpg on a highway run vs what 40 mpg from this 2L 4 pot??
@davidnjuguna9477
Жыл бұрын
They didn't use electric mode.
@Dr.Ian-Plect
Жыл бұрын
@@Bahamuttiamat vomit
@ShogunsDojo
Жыл бұрын
That 4cyl hybrid Merc is just depressing. What were they thinking.
@philippebeinaerts
Жыл бұрын
What are EU gouvernements thinking…
@_Chev_Chelios
Жыл бұрын
An “electrically assisted turbo” sounds suspiciously like a hairdryer.
@Bahamuttiamat
Жыл бұрын
@@wltdo6930 LOL net zero. Can I have what you're smoking. That will not happen. Mining for batteries is far more environmentally unfriendly than fossil fuels.
@flacjacket
Жыл бұрын
@@wltdo6930 we don't need to get to net zero.
@ghepardogts
Жыл бұрын
It wasnt by choice from Merc or fans. They were forced to do this by the government.
@asalazar
Жыл бұрын
If Merc thinks brand loyalty is enough to keep the c63 going, they are sorely misinformed
@thabo9218
Жыл бұрын
Brand loyals will just buy a used E63
@thomasmiller2395
Жыл бұрын
I agree considering the options from the competition these days.
@505LAN
Жыл бұрын
@thabo9218 A used w204 c63 amg I'd say 😉
@kenoh818
Жыл бұрын
They will find out soon...
@geraint8989
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been a fan of C-Class AMGs since my first C32. There is absolutely no way I would ever buy the current C63. There is so much talent in the AMG back catalogue, for better value, which sound like real cars, with less annoying tech. I like to drive cars rather than play them like a computer game.
@shuaibshariff2797
Жыл бұрын
Good grief. What were Mercedes thinking? Owner of 3 V8 C63s, now in an M3 and eagerly awaiting my new M3 CS.
@them60productionm6zero2
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@peterhammer6915
Жыл бұрын
M3 CS I think might be better than the M4 CSL. If I would have money for a second car, the M3 CS would be high on my list. Though in our country it probably is way over 200k eur new.
@shuaibshariff2797
Жыл бұрын
@@peterhammer6915 Agreed. The M3CS is both limited and expensive. Not sure if the standard M3 Competition's daily usability will be stripped away too much. I hope not.
@jwanilpatel3223
10 ай бұрын
Yes i love my 16 Bugattis , 15 amg ones and 25 gt3rs as much as u love ur cars
@rootsmanuva82
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely Nobody: “I love the 503 bhp V8 in my C63 but it would be better if it were a 4-cylinder plug-in hybrid to save the environment”.
@Don-pk2uy
Жыл бұрын
Actually worse for the environment
@mikehagmaier3949
Жыл бұрын
If you really want to save the environment, keep the V8 and don’t have kids!
@MD-uu5nt
Жыл бұрын
@@mikehagmaier3949not having kids is idiotic. Who are we saving the planet for if you don't have kids? Climate change is bollocks.
@blakecliff5724
Жыл бұрын
Gayyyy
@dont5363
Жыл бұрын
@@mikehagmaier3949 👏
@AndrewL31413
Жыл бұрын
MB should have tried a 6 cylinder hybrid not a 4. It’s just too much changing from a V8. The main reason someone got the C63 was the V8 so I really don’t understand why they went with a 4 cylinder.
@CARmagazineTV
Жыл бұрын
Good shout!
@boogboog8097
Жыл бұрын
Yup and they already have this in the 53 series cars
@AndrewL31413
Жыл бұрын
@@boogboog8097 the new E63 is doing that. I don’t get why they didn’t go the same route. It’s like MB doesn’t understand what we like.
@rel6294
Жыл бұрын
because they design 206 chassis to fit only 4 cylinder, which is a shame really
@robertlifea6405
Жыл бұрын
That stupid controllers are mostly the reason
@aaronhussain3873
Жыл бұрын
I'm really interested to see how the Merc sells. It seems like such a blatant cock-up ditching the V8 - which is what attracted AMG clientele - to a grim 4 cyl hybrid unit, while adding more weight to rub more salt into the wound. BMW are laughing all the way to the bank with the new M3. Its ugly, but it still maintains the good stuff which its customers like.
@htank6955
Жыл бұрын
I think it will sell (in absence of anything else in Merc stable) but lesser than previous model.
@shantanukhaladkar7588
Жыл бұрын
The performance of the m3 more than makes up for its ugliness. I think people are also growing used to the looks, which will help its case.
@pherron7471
Жыл бұрын
Well remember Porsche did the same with the Boxster/Cayman. We saw how that went although I think Porsche buyers are more hard-core. Seem like most Mercedes owners buy the cars for status more than anything. The three pointed star flex.
@arvinawotar2357
Жыл бұрын
@@pherron7471 Who the hell would flex with a small peasant engine
@duffydon1741
Жыл бұрын
@@pherron7471 flex😂😂😂 not sure, Mercedes Benz is a regular car, what flex are you talking about???
@PixelVogue
Жыл бұрын
The M3 Touring killed off the RSx division, the Merc killed itself off 😅
@pauln0371
Жыл бұрын
The new RS4 due next year will be interesting. They will definitely do a better job of hybridisation than Merc imo with the vast knowledge learnt from Endurance racing.
@mred9161
Жыл бұрын
I’m in the market for a fast estate and that M3 is way too fugly to consider; the interior is also substandard. As an everyday most seem to agree the Audi is the nicer place to be if you cast aside top trumps stats.
@PixelVogue
Жыл бұрын
@@mred9161 most? Audi fanboys? The M3 interior is levels above the Audi
@pauln0371
Жыл бұрын
@@PixelVogue apart from the main display screen which isn't anywhere near as good as Audi's Virtual Cockpit..And every journo in the business will totally agree...
@wass006
Жыл бұрын
I don't think the M3 has killed the RS4, RS will always have it's market, but the M3 has definitely taken some sales away from Audi. Looks wise the M3 is ultra aggressive, love the looks. The RS also looks very good
@gw7624
Жыл бұрын
So Mercedes have removed the one advantage the C63 had over an M3/M4 - the nicer engine. Smart move if their aim is to sell less.
@andreus6865
Жыл бұрын
What they didn't mention in the video (that they mentioned in the magazine article) is that they ran the 0-100km/hr times (0-62mph) and the C63Se did 3.4sec (as MB says), but the M3 did 3.3sec (under the 3.6sec advertised time) and the RS4 did 3.7 (under the 3.9 sec advertised time)
@alihulk4021
Жыл бұрын
carwow done 3.0 seconds flat in the c63se
@andreus6865
Жыл бұрын
@@alihulk4021 Downhill
@alihulk4021
Жыл бұрын
@@andreus6865 whatever it is, it is quick, but im no fan of it. That original 6.3l aspirated engine could be heard from 3 blocks away. That was a piece of engineering.
@fatdoi003
Жыл бұрын
As current W205 C63 owner I don't really care about the 0.x sec time difference, I care about the V8 rumble from 1500rpm
@alihulk4021
Жыл бұрын
@@fatdoi003 I honestly wish the M3 sounded anywhere near as good as the current V8 W205 C63
@payartz
Жыл бұрын
For anyone interested in where the scenes of the m3 and c63 were shot: Sudelfeldpass Bavaria
@BavariaR
Жыл бұрын
Before I went to order the BMW M3 Competition Touring I also configured the new C63s with typically comparable options. On the Merc I cam out 30.000€ more then with the M3... I also sure that the M3 will keep much better its Price Levels when getting old where as the Merc will be at 50% of its value just after 3 Years due to the Hybrid stuff... after 5 Years probably not sellable anymore. I desperately wanted to buy the Merc as I love this F1 type of technologies but my guts said NoNoNo get the M3 instead....
@samnnamani
Жыл бұрын
Well, here in the UK, I went all out on the Merc (with MANUFAKTUR graphite grey magno paint) and got £102,290 OTR price, Also went all out on the m3 (with visibility pack, carbon pack and Pro pack) and got 111,085 OTR. The M3 offers more granular and personalized configuration and is the better car. I totally agree its value will hold for 3-5 years.
@oleg274
Жыл бұрын
I really think some of these generation M cars will rather appreciate in a long run. 20-30 years from now this M3 will cost much more than today since everything on the street will be EVs, but petrol enthusiasts will always exist
@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418
Жыл бұрын
@@oleg274 🤣🤣🤦 the issue will be very little dino juice to run them. Ignoring all the enviromental effects oil is just going to run out and it'll cause wars unless the reliance on it is reduced or we can make it go further. Engine downsizing is one way of doing that. Going to have to start somewhere. The irony is the idiotic chase for 500+bhp over the last decade to 15 years has made cars heavier and more inefficient. Lighter, cleverer materials actually innovating smaller ICE engines would have made this inevitability around V6 and V8 engines getting binned less of an issue.
@Csl74csl
Жыл бұрын
There can only be one King and that’s the M3 and I’m getting one in about 3-4 weeks🙏🏻😇
@peterhammer6915
Жыл бұрын
congrats!!
@staytoasty7373
Жыл бұрын
you made the right choice 😂
@steven8075
5 ай бұрын
i have driven all the cars in this vid. C63 is dead, RS4 is cool and quick but that M3 is the king. picking up mine shortly, fully loaded Comp in isle of man green.
@woodahl
Жыл бұрын
It’s an ABSOLUTE DISASTER. What the hell were they thinking?!
@softroseforyou7457
Жыл бұрын
Yes 0 to 60 in 3 seconds. What the hell were they thinking? Shame on them!
@mathewm3073
7 ай бұрын
@@softroseforyou7457 thats slow for 63s with hybrid. If they gonna mess about with the hybrid, make sure it is actually fun to drive. I've seen other channels say more positive things about the plaid than this car lol.
@baoquoc3710
6 ай бұрын
@@softroseforyou7457 0-60 in 2 second and then wake me up.
@softroseforyou7457
3 ай бұрын
@@mathewm3073 The 2024 C63S is not a electric car. It is a hybrid with part gas and part electric. The paid is all electric and does not compete with the C63S. And yes it is fun to drive. Go test drive it and then make a comment. SMH LOL
@Billywoo12
Жыл бұрын
Is the C63 the most disappointing performance car of 2023?
@blakeground4512
Жыл бұрын
100%
@haviiithelegogunner907
Жыл бұрын
100%
@lindaskhosana6623
Жыл бұрын
The M3 remains the benchmark, the AMG's futuristic drive train has done more damage to this car's heritage and image. For all the effort at AMG, the BMW is faster. The Audi is somewhat sublime in a way that it's not trying to make a statement, still a punchy piece of kit though, don't underestimate RS badge.
@mrbartek3122
Жыл бұрын
Even if Audi has 60hp less it is almost as fast as them and that’s impressive so imagine if it had 510hp, it would be the fastest
@blazesmooth5573
Жыл бұрын
@@mrbartek3122 It's also the lightest, not the mention the m3 is faster than the rs6
@mrbartek3122
Жыл бұрын
@@blazesmooth5573 no one cares about regular rs6, THE rs6 is the new performance version which is faster than m5 comp. Remember Audi with the same amount of power is faster and that is it.
@blazesmooth5573
Жыл бұрын
@@mrbartek3122 Who told you the new RS6 is faster? It has the same 1/4th mile and a slower roll, lower to speed and worse handling. Watch any rolling race between the new RS6 and the BMW M5 comp and the RS6 gets dusted, you don't actually believe it's faster do you?
@channasnakehead4051
Жыл бұрын
Well I tested my M240i stage 1 about 415 hp against a RS6 on a straight from 100- 200 kph and just believe me that RS had big Trouble loosin to a "cheap" m240i compared to the RS wagon benchmark
@mayormsuthu1465
Жыл бұрын
I like the BMWs design it has so much presence when you see it in person or in car if theres anything like that. I know that a lot of people do not like the grills of the M3 and M4 but for me they've nailed it and it looks even better on this M3 touring. I'd choose the M3 Touring than its competitors.
@yanzi1957
Жыл бұрын
Nah it looks weird. They should have kept DCT and kidney grills. Other than that it looks great, nice wide hips
@minigiant8998
Жыл бұрын
@@yanzi1957 as an m3 owner i get so many compliments on the car. guess most people like the grill.
@hassanger8128
Жыл бұрын
M3 is extremely gorgeous
@mediocreman2
5 ай бұрын
If you don't have eyes and/or style, it's the right car.
@mayormsuthu1465
5 ай бұрын
@@mediocreman2 lol what a funny joke🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@toyotawagons4584
Жыл бұрын
The only reason why you might want to buy the new ‘C63’ is because it’s going to be a very, VERY rare car🙊😂😂😂
@augustortiz
Жыл бұрын
The AMG One and this seem to have real issues with powertrains. Overcomplicated, excessively heavy and dead. After 10seconds you are stuck with a 4 cylinder on a 2300kg+ car. Id take the other two in a heartbeat over the “AMG”
@staytoasty7373
Жыл бұрын
GayMG 😂
@siyamoloi610
Жыл бұрын
No one has ever bought a C63 because of good gas mileage or environmental concerns either. This thing is a dud
@herme99
Жыл бұрын
400kg heavier than the Audi! Manufacturers are making these cars easier to drive fast in a world where driving fast is increasingly not a thing that is easy to do or considered socially acceptable. A good noise is a substitute for speed.
@victortaveira8271
Жыл бұрын
No no no. I always prefer speed and handling blame incompetent drivers buying ou tunnin cars to a level, that cannot drive
@KingofInterns
Жыл бұрын
100% true. 400hp on the road is already plenty to get you in trouble if you press on. A good noise from a V8 is what allows one to enjoy an AMG at any speed
@adamek9750
Жыл бұрын
@@KingofInternseven my 68hp econobox can do 100mph lol
@Kelveron
Жыл бұрын
Excellent and beautifully produced comparison by Car magazine. Ben Barry is a really good motoring journalist. The M3 Touring just feels so special, in a way that the overcomplicated C 63 S doesn't. V8 to V4, 1.8 tonnes to 2.2 tonnes, is not progress in my book.
@duffydon1741
Жыл бұрын
And the power delivery lasts for 10 seconds😂😂😂😂 what a bum of a car!! This means you cant launch this car over and over and over because it will not deliver full power🙄🙄🙄
@hellospaceman
Жыл бұрын
Straight 4, not V4 :)
@duffydon1741
Жыл бұрын
@@hellospaceman whatever dumpster engine man!
@Kelveron
Жыл бұрын
@@hellospaceman Quite right. Thank you.
@mikaeleurenius2054
Жыл бұрын
50 % of having a car is it looks. So the M3 can only score 50/100.
@zaydnavaz7035
Жыл бұрын
M3T was destined to be the winner from the start. BMW's engineers knew that it would be now or never to make an M3 Touring. The M3 is the best in class already, making an estate version just brings in that extra level of emotion. RS4 has always been the sensible choice and it has held up really well against the competition. I would definitely consider an RS4 for daily driving duties along the Autobahn. The C63Se on the other hand is a majot letdown and disappointment. The car as clearly said in the review is unfinished. I love the way the new C class looks and it would have been a great car if AMG developed the 6 cylinder engine from the E53. At least the emotional element will still be there and the car would feel more special to drive. Instead, they take the 4 cylinder already developed for A45s and throw that into the C63 thinking that giving it nearly 700 horsepower will not make owners care. The C63 was never great dynamically. What was attractive about it was the engine and how the car made people feel. The C63 now has lost its main appeal. What's more, values of hybrids are gonna drop through the roof, especially on a car that only has 8 miles of range. What a missed oppertunity. I think Mercedes know it
@mikaeleurenius2054
Жыл бұрын
Only too bad the M3 looks like sh*t.
@ilmelangolo
Жыл бұрын
Too bad there is not a Giulia Quadrifoglio Sportwagon!
@augustortiz
Жыл бұрын
Its dead no? I thought they stopped production.
@ilmelangolo
Жыл бұрын
@@augustortiz I don't think so.
@hassanger8128
Жыл бұрын
It is very outdated and dead by now.
@ilmelangolo
Жыл бұрын
@@hassanger8128 outdated by what? 4 cyl Mercs?
@jaydaley1294
Жыл бұрын
The S58 is the stuff of dreams
@dariusdarabant6232
Жыл бұрын
Imagine buying this over the M3 Touring.
@TheGbizaille
Жыл бұрын
That would be WIIILD
@staytoasty7373
Жыл бұрын
isn’t the M3 faster anyway? 😭
@arvinawotar2357
Жыл бұрын
4 CYLINDER? DAMN MERC BUILT A PEASANT CAR!
@Automann-TV
Жыл бұрын
That RS4 is a masterpiece! Not because it has the latest tech, but just because all parts play so well together, it's incredible. I would even says it's the most emotional car in class, also built quality is amongst the best in its class. So overall this is the car the petrolheads will choose!
@peterhammer6915
Жыл бұрын
audis problem is the chronic understeer, which unfortunately is there at least in a normal non-comp RS4. They just dont seem to get rid of that. So me as a petrolhead choose the M3.
@haviiithelegogunner907
Жыл бұрын
@automann-TV was für ein Käse! Der RS4 ist der bessere daily und der V6 frisst den R6 aus dem M3 in der Mitte des Drehzahlbandes, aber alles andere macht der S58 besser als der 2.9 V6 … und ja ich hab beide. Einen als Firmenwagen, den anderen privat.
@blazesmooth5573
Жыл бұрын
an understeering car as most emotional is laughable but alr
@wasdwasdwwasd
Жыл бұрын
Good grief, Mercedes has a lot of work to do on that C63. As always, Ben Barry's dynamic impressions of the cars are top notch. Excellent vid.
@rforracing
Жыл бұрын
RIP Mercedes AMG
@softroseforyou7457
3 ай бұрын
Yes RIP Mercedes AMG. Your car only does 0 to 60 in 3 seconds. SMH LOL
@SLO722
Жыл бұрын
Fire everyone at Mercedes starting from the top. Kallenius, Schafer, the two AMG heads.
@CarlizWang
Жыл бұрын
I have loved AMG since childhood, those big V8s, sometimes with another 4 banger "bolted" ontop making those gorgeous V12s. AMG is the reason I've been working hard my whole adulthood, working to achieve my goal of being an AMG owner by the time I'm 30 years old. March 2020 was the month I took ownership of my very own S205 C63s, one of the best moments in my life. I could finally be behind the wheel of my childhood dream, enjoy that glorious V8 rumble and roar. I did not care my three pointed star was posting slower laptimes than my friends M cars, because every time I fired up those 8 cynlinders all my worries in life went away. In that moment, it was just me, the open road and that beast of a V8. No matter what people believe, from my own experience, that V8 alone makes the car. My girlfriend who cares less than 0 about cars knows that V8 rumble is special, friends with no car interests keep pointing out a family estate couldn't possibly make those kind of sounds. AMG said they didn't build the new C63s E because they had to, but rather to show the world they could. Then I have to argue that just because you can, doesn't mean you should. What is AMG without a V8? How can AMG stand out and inspire a new generation of car enthusiasts when it has lost it's heritage? Who is this car for? I want to own more AMG cars in the future, the question is, will there be any AMG in the future that I want to own?
@stardustbilermam1736
Жыл бұрын
Amg is the only German with special sounding v8s. Other than that,nah
@stardustbilermam1736
Жыл бұрын
Amg is the only German with special sounding v8s. Other than that,nah
@fritzmaluleke475
Жыл бұрын
Mercedes-Benz suffers from self-sabotage disorder. They had an opportunity to at least use a V6 or 5 cylinder with the hybrid.
@mikealanzo
Жыл бұрын
Holly crap that Merc weights!!! My S65 Long version weights 2200kg, and this thing is just 85kg less, with a V4 and shorter length.... No thank you AMG, you keep that brick!!!!
@softroseforyou7457
Жыл бұрын
The V4 will beat your S65 and leave you in the dust. SMH LOL
@freshjuice9801
Жыл бұрын
The C63 looks odd with it's wide front and narrow rear fenders.
@softroseforyou7457
3 ай бұрын
The BMW looks odd with it's wide front and narrow rear fenders.
@Ziggyziggy1
Жыл бұрын
Those BMW straight six are legendary, And the new ones can be mapped to 700hp without a problem, It looks like BMW combustion engine will go away with a flourish!
@flacjacket
Жыл бұрын
If Mercedes were smart they would have developed a 5 cylinder for the C63. If they feel compelled to downsize massively at the very least a five banger would have allowed them to retain a worthy exhaust note and a sense of specialness to the drivetrain. Four cylinders are just ubiquitous and mundane. They don't sound good, they aren't exciting enough for the segment, regardless of how much power they make.
@jeebus2121
Жыл бұрын
Why a 5? Yes, they sound interesting, but are inherently complex (balance shafts) with odd vibrational tendencies. Mercedes already has a lovely inline-6 that was showcased in the CLS53.
@person1745
Жыл бұрын
The thing is, mercedes do know how to make a good 4 cylinder engine. They have done it well in the first generation of 45 AMGs. Not sure why this C63 sounds so bad even compared to the A45S, which didn't sound great from the factory mainly due to its OPF
@paulwardzynski3265
Жыл бұрын
Great reviews thanks. Good to hear the Audi has decent steering! Mercedes, engineering for engineering's sake. BMW - that's how do do it!
@JacobHall1601
Жыл бұрын
2110kg in a car that size is unacceptable
@Youcallthesebagels_
Жыл бұрын
Has no one driven the a45s? That 4 cylinder is amazing. Best in the business.
@evol3852
Жыл бұрын
Rs3 tops it badly with the fantastic 5 cylinder amazing.
@denislejeune9218
Жыл бұрын
from amg to omg
@softroseforyou7457
3 ай бұрын
It does 0 to 60 in 3 seconds and you are complaining. SMH LOL
@juniorhamilton9631
Жыл бұрын
Its would have been better if Mercedes went with its inline six tubro featured in the the gle 53 and added a mile hybrid system
@Sideways_Singh
Жыл бұрын
The benz looks incredibly sexy n has a nice interior. Too bad it requires major work like a engine swap and battery removal to become a real drivable car. Hopefully they dont make the same mistake with the upcoming cle coupe and they better give it the v8 with no heavy batteries.
@peterhammer6915
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@zixi2067
Жыл бұрын
If in 2015 someone told me in 8 years the c63 will get the A45 engine i would laugh, now i am crying ...
@theonlytrueJedi
Жыл бұрын
Mercedes apparently does not understand why customers liked and bought the C63. It was never about how fast the car was but rather about how it made you feel when accelerating. Whilst clever engineering can make replace the power output of a V8 you cant replicate the emotions.
@boogboog8097
Жыл бұрын
2200kg 4 cylinder "AMG" these will not sell
@Under_Construction100
Жыл бұрын
Merc has really put purists off with this move. This would have been better played if they piloted this on a C43 or an "in-betweener" model which closes the gap between the C43 & the fully fledged 63... something like a C63 (without the S). Purists, which are the most that go for these kind of cars, are not only concerned with horse-power, NewtonMeters & 0-60 sprints alone. They also want the sound, the muscle, the rawness, etc.
@silversleeper484
Жыл бұрын
Thank-you so much for doing and unbiased review on the new C63 S e-perforamnce, by doing it side by side of the M3 Touring and the RS4 Competition Avant. When I say unbiased you are the first person to call the C63 S e-per what it actually is. Not a very good driver's car as it has way too much technology thrown at and trying to be a Performance wagon/car and a fuel-efficient car. Everyone that has reviewed this car gave over-the-moon reviews and emphasized how brilliant it was by constantly quoting the Brake Hosepower numbers. If they had put this drivetrain into the CLA, GLA models they would of had a winner. However putting this into the C63S it's going to be a Parking Lot Marker on the Dealer Lots. Anyone and Everyone that has been an owner or a shopper of the C63 of the first gen or 2nd gen W204 C63 want the Naturally aspirated V8 and would not want to trade-in that for this new 2023/24 Generation. In my opinion, Mercedes will not recoup any money for this car and when the accountants of Mercedes see the numbers of sales v. their completion in class they are going to be very upset/sad. $90k, for this or $80k for the BMW M3 Touring or the BMW M3 Sedan Competiton v. the C63s E-Performance Sedan, will be sold 10 to 1. Also, I believe that the Facelifted 2012-2014 Sedan C63 and the 2012-2015 Coupe with the P31/P30 Package will quickly become a future classic and the prices will increase very quickly. The cars with the P31/P30 gets you Increased horsepower 481with 443 ft lbs of torque and some SLS Black Series engine components instead of the standard 451, Option Code 471 Limited Slip Differential, U70 Red Brake Calipers with 2 Piece Rotors and H73 Carbon Fiber interior Trim Pieces, and rear trunk spoiler. Also with the Face Lifted C63 you get the New 7 spd auto transmission with Race Start (Launch Control)
@nathandepasquale9571
Жыл бұрын
Totally expected this result. Don't understand MB/AMG's thinking with the C63s and GT63 e-performance crap. Far too heavy and too focused on F1 technology. Depressing. Would take the M3 all day.
@davidbarker2688
2 ай бұрын
I've just taken delivery of the C63 and am absolutely loving it already. Fun, fast, and actually comfortable if you're a techy person you'll love it too
@kholomokolo
Жыл бұрын
The magic of the old C63 was the sound coming out of the tailpipes. It could be the most complete driver's car in the world, but without that sound it's an automatic NO in my books
@simonturl7961
Жыл бұрын
Clear winner for me are those lovely red trainers! Fast, light weight and zero mph...
@matthewnicholas6365
Жыл бұрын
The G8x M3 has the S58 engine. Totally different to the S55 in the F8x M3 generation.
@jjg1000
Жыл бұрын
That m3 touring is going to go down as a masterpiece for bmw, it ticks every box , perfect recipe where in the past these cars always had a downside. The stance, interior , engine, seats, drive, handling, awd and 2wd if you want. I would sell my kidney for one of these things
@minigiant8998
Жыл бұрын
i need a kidney and have an m3 comp
@francoisbalavoine1316
Жыл бұрын
Very deep and serious review... congrats
@Gez492
Жыл бұрын
Wow just shows what great car the RS4 is! It definitely wins the looks test. For a model that's hurtling towards the wrong side of towards a decade old to push the BNIB M3 comp touring so close, speaks volumes. There's a lot of love here for the RS4. I just hope Audi builds on its strengths and not ruin its successor like AMG have slaughtered the C63. I still don't like the Beemers Beaver grille, but the car has a good rear end for sure. 2 great cars and a Mercedes then!
@future62
Жыл бұрын
Really confused by the Merc. Would literally rather have half the HP with a regular V8 or even an EV. They managed to combine the worst of both.
@eliotsalandybrown
Жыл бұрын
🤩@benbarrycars Ben the clarity of your balanced and informed insights on cars makes this video wicked thanks a lot ⭐️
@Matt-rk3de
Жыл бұрын
I feel that it is now a ‘step up’ from a GLA45, rather than a ‘step down’ from an E63
@vindevhunta4905
Жыл бұрын
Miss the v8 merc
@Seramics
Жыл бұрын
Im excited for 3 cylinder high torque 1.5l Mercedes next. What a beast. This is why the three pointed circle is a legend.
@ErikM340
Жыл бұрын
Who is buying C43 AMG and C63 AMG with 4 cylinders ?? Only people not having petrolhead heart. Base price C43 AMG: 87 400 € vs M340i: 70 900€ and C63 AMG estate: 114 130€ vs M3 touring: 101 760€.
@luciengranger2762
Жыл бұрын
I actually refuse to watch anything electric 😢😂
@7bobbyjoe
Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic review; well structured, critical and concise yet manages to capture everything we need to know. Bravo car magazine 👏
@CARmagazineTV
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@andreemilsen369
Жыл бұрын
A C63, should have a 6.3 (I know it is actually a 6.2), liter engine. That is the point of the acronym. The 4.0 twin turbo is a better engine, but it should not be called a 63, because it is really a 40 (if following the same logic). At least it was a v8, so it was kind of ok. But this, sorry, it does not deserve the 63 badge. It probably drives rather well, but one of points of an AMG, RS, M car, or any other performance car, is to put a smile on your face already when you start the engine, the enginenoise should be pleasing while cruising, and the feeling when going for it, should obviously be a lot of fun. Most modern cars do not have theese qualities as their predecessors. Oldschool is best, and it does not need insane speeds to be fun either🤪
@kona328WH
Жыл бұрын
Great video. The merc is an abomination.
@balmainattitude
Жыл бұрын
Buying this over the other vehicles is like bringing a knife to a gun fight.
@sirkerzenhalter8191
Жыл бұрын
Imagine having a worse fuel consumption as a 4cyl compared to a 6cyl… Especially because the 6cyl has more power… Mercedes really disappoints with the C63
@hellothere4342
Жыл бұрын
Current owner of an E63s, I'll keep this V8 for awhile longer but my relationship with AMG is no longer going forward. Been looking at Giulia QV and i think that's where my future is heading.
@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418
Жыл бұрын
you realise Alfa are going fully electric soon right 🤣🤣. Big V6s and V8s are dead🤷. Unless there's a lot of reengineering to make the amount of cylinders used and fuel consumption much better it's not happening. At which point the argument of a modular engine that you can deploy as a 3 cylinder, 4 cylinder, 5 cylinder and 6 cylinder would make more sense. Especially if you can the deactivate cylinders for example. The issue there is it's probably cheaper just to make a full EV instead.
@hellothere4342
Жыл бұрын
@eaglemmoomin_418 sure do. That's why I want to add a green one to collection when depreciation has taken the toll on it.
@iandavies1893
Жыл бұрын
I have a fast mercedes and owned a fast BMW a couple of years ago. I have always found Audis a bit dull and dynamically inferior but I think AMG road division like the F1 team have gone down the wrong avenue and for the first time ever would go Audis first, BMW, then Mercedes as the normal BMW default choice is spoilt by the dodgy looks.
@letsoverthink2548
Жыл бұрын
The car that caused Tobias Moers to resign. I can see why
@baoquoc3710
6 ай бұрын
Tobias moved to Aston Martin before this abomination was born. It's to help the troubling British sports car brand weathering through the ex-Nissan coo Andy Palmer mess.
@MacBookAir-cu4fb
Жыл бұрын
Imagine having one big advantage against your rivals and killing this exact advantage with the least attractive solution out there…
@jldp24
Жыл бұрын
Cant even comment on that Merc with the c63 badge. Are we really moving to EV? Not gonna happen in the Southern Hemisphere
@supremeetnel7707
Жыл бұрын
Ive been waiting for this comparison video. Damn Mercedes what were you thinking? Was Mercedes thinking?
@ASpectreOfSorts
Жыл бұрын
The new C63 is tough for me. I don't have a problem with a turbo-four, electrification, or some combination thereof, but it seems like AMG got the balance all sorts of wrong. I was hoping the W206 AMGs could be a sort of 190E 2.3-16 for the modern era, but they just aren't. Such a shame.
@ALMX5DP
Жыл бұрын
I kinda feel the same. I think I’d still prefer the noise and sensations of an inline 6 or V8 but I could get behind this if it were just lighter and more balanced.
@zulub.r.u.h7846
7 ай бұрын
Im just a fan of all three of these brands. I get the feeling that MB screwed up when they thought MB customers will buy their product no matter what. I can just hear the salesmen now "But my friend this has F1 Tech in it" forgetting that V8 engine is what made the C63 iconic. Audi & BMW also had iconic V8's but were smart enough to not drop too low, and opted for 6 cylinders and still gave it wonderful sounds at the exhaust. It's the little things that can excite a driver, overtaking another vehicle with a few loud claps from the exhaust to congratulate you and make you feel good getting to where you are going. This two litre 4 cylinder offers coughs to let you know that something is wrong, it lost its powerful voice that cripples the experience for the driver. It's not about the F1 Tech, it's about creating a superior driving experience for your customers who are parting with a lot of money. Who remembers the Audi RS5 V8 engine or the BMW M5 V10 whilst they may not respectively be lightening fast or mechanically reliable, they had souls, they had heart and personality that you come to appreciate years after their heyday. I now believe that the C63s V8 (a legend) has now joined that category. MB customers have this to deal with this... Unless MB comes to their senses and bring the V8 back, borrow tech from Mclaren P1 if you have to go the hybrid way. But for goodness sakes! Don't downplay the essential part that a good engine & exhaust sound brings to the driver experience!
@thehomelessproject3784
Жыл бұрын
This is a very good review hats of to the journalist 👏
@CARmagazineTV
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@samcas707
6 ай бұрын
What you’re feeling in the ride is 2.4T on steel springs. It’s just a flawed package before they even got to tuning dampeners
@WayApp
Жыл бұрын
This comparison really highlights the essence of true performance sedans.
@MachoMadness69420
Жыл бұрын
The Merc is only the fastest when there’s charge on the battery. And that probably won’t be for long given that it has a frankly pathetic EV range of 8 miles.
@5amH45lam
Жыл бұрын
The C63 has only got half an engine!
@softroseforyou7457
3 ай бұрын
0 to 60 in 3 seconds with half an engine. I would say that is very impressive...
@cliftonjackson441
Жыл бұрын
Please tell me its just the angle and those aren't superficial vents on the fender. I mean you could appreciate the engineering that gets those numbers from a hybrid 4, but you can't condone them doing the buick treatment on the fenders
@ThrottleBody
Жыл бұрын
The Mercedes is it’s one big L. What’s crazy is it’s not even good at being an estate! A mk7 golf hatchback has more boot space 😂 the rs4 is also an L, fast estates are meant to be their thing. Bravo m3 touring.
@marklivos
Жыл бұрын
BMW this time is the true winner, Mercedes just left the race
@dado380
Жыл бұрын
Facts says that literally no one bought new AMG C63,they said it's the biggest bust ever for AMG.
@verde629
Жыл бұрын
They should’ve made the c64 a 6 cylinder atleast like their F1 car. They make some good sounding 6 cylinders, what a shame
@FifyKaqiqiPain
Жыл бұрын
C63 S: 4 cylinder and Hybrid 😢 M3: Ugly grille 😟 Audi RS4: Not as cool as a C63 or M3 😔 I don't like hybrids and the RS4 is outdated and I'm absolutely love the M3's grille So I'll choose the M3
@camsak8713
Жыл бұрын
They also screwed up the C43….I currently have a 2019 LCI C43 with AMG PE….after looking at the new C43….placed an order for a 2024 M440i GC X Drive. Not even close. Wanted to stay with Merc….but just no way.
@Driver_88
Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the clean focused review - amg what a state they are in
@TheValbunnys
10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this review this will represents a lot for My c63s w205 🏁🙌🏻
@SpeedforceM3competition
Жыл бұрын
The Ms are always a better driving machine than amg and RS
@reaver9
Жыл бұрын
12:06 Thank you for an honest review, that really says it all.
@SoundMan1985
Жыл бұрын
Imagine paying $80k+ for a 4-cylinder when there are two V6 options for similar price.
@RizM820
Жыл бұрын
thank you for his this very honest review. We need more car journalists to do this instead of just pandering to every manufacturer.
@FifyKaqiqiPain
Жыл бұрын
If only Lexus made an IS F Wagon...
@UT3CTF
3 ай бұрын
Since Mercedes got rid of V8, I stopped thinking about getting C63s or E63s. V8 and its exhaust tone is the main thing that hooked me to those cars. Later, I got an M5 F90. No 4-cylinder vacuum cleaner for me. And with current interest rates in the US, the new C63 e Performance can be leased for around $2,000/mo. Are you kidding me??!!! That's more than one could find a deal on BMW M850i (N63 V8, $1450+tax), Audi S8 (V8, MSRP 13k, $1640+tax), and even BMW M8 Competition (S63T4 V8, $145k, $1850/mo+tax). No, Mercedes, no, thanks!
@MarkVinewood
Жыл бұрын
That C63 also weighs as much as a SUV. It has insane power to overcome that and still be blindingly fast but take it to a wet track or snow where it can't hide its weight and it might be a whole different story.
@tuningemporium
Жыл бұрын
merc's too complicated and only 4 cylinders Audi has lost its soul and doesn't look that great. M3 the only true drivers car with a bit of character :)
@RobertoSciò
4 ай бұрын
never seen such negative comments on such a monster of a car!! a 680 horsepower car that is 2000 kg delivers 11-12 Km x lt is actually incredibly good. But I guess you have to use one for al least 1 month to actually have a real opinion.... the car is super good
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