Non-fluted bolt is interesting. Kudos to both you and Ruger. Obviously Ruger provided you with the gun. I assume that they are paying you as well. Most companies today would shut you down regarding that hammer/bolt engagement issue, insisting that they be allowed to fix it and that you not mention it. Many reviewers would happily go along with that. You chose to show us the problem. Ruger chose to allow you to show us *and* committed to fixing it. That is unfortunately rare in today’s world of manipulated messaging, and I thank you both.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your comment! And thank you! But Ruger is not paying me at all. But I will say this, they do expect an honest review. That said, this was one of the hardest videos to make. I knew I had to report what I saw and at the same time and not lead people to incendiary conclusions.
@chipsterb4946
Жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite YouScrewed won’t let me edit my comment. Obviously my assumption that you were being paid was wrong. Nevertheless, you and Ruger both deserve compliments in a world where the UN tells Google how to sort search results regarding climate change. You handled a touchy situation very well IMHO, and based on my own experiences with Ruger I’m confident that they will fix that issue. I will add that I was all set to buy one of these Guide Guns but now will wait a bit …
@rowdybroomstick6394
Жыл бұрын
I waited until late in the of 2017 to buy my Remington made Marlin because earlier edition's had everything from poor function to fit and finish issues and finally they got them all corrected and mine has worked flawlessly and is a tack driver.
@cyrusbaker6229
Жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite I think so as well. Gun companies in today's world wants to keep these older brands, as well as their own, in completely and increasingly anti-gun political world we live in. I did wonder if you requested a model that would be photographed as detailed as you did and they sent you a better than average specimen. What you photographed is a better than average speciment of a factory model of anything. If that is standard for Marlin now my appreciation for them to continue to take criticism that is a great thing.
@t44e6
Жыл бұрын
As TS stated in his reply, most content creators who are supplied products to review are not directly paid. However, many who are not as ethical will choose to ignore flaws in order to keep getting more samples.
@williambaker4417
Жыл бұрын
In my humble opinion, Ruger resurrecting Marlin was the best firearms news in years.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@chrisc2671
Жыл бұрын
I’m from Australia, I don’t know if we were getting sent the shit examples of the Remington made models or not but honestly, without any exaggeration every single one I picked up in any gun shop was disgraceful. Every single one. They all had something very wrong with it. The most common thing was surface rust. Rust in a brand new rifle, it made me think they weren’t blueing the metal or something. Plus they had an annoying QR code on the action etc. Just a heap of shit. I don’t think we should have been too surprised though. Remington rifles were garbage too. I remember when I wanted to buy my first gun, I read in gun magazines about the Remington 700 Sendero with the fluted barrel. I saw one in my local gun shop, I was so excited. I asked to have a look at it but when he handed it to me, I looked down the outside of the barrel and saw the flutes were all wonky. It made me sick. I have it back to him in disgust and bought a Sako. I’ve only got one Ruger, a Ruger No. 1, it’s a well made rifle so I’m not suprised they are making good marlins. 👍
@tylermallory2504
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree, I got one of the first 4000 trappers and absolutely love it.
@hoffmiermp
Жыл бұрын
Amen to that, love my new trapper. I put the comet muzzle brake on mine and male shooting the nasty heavy hard cast extremely manageable. I've been waiting for years to get one and didn't want a remlin.
@ridgerunner3364
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@samrock7632
Жыл бұрын
Marlin design and Ruger quality, how can you go wrong, and thanks Ruger for saving our beloved Marlin
@70selvisfan
Жыл бұрын
I really can't wait for the 1894's to get back in production! But, I must say, the wood on that Guide Gun was gorgeous! Also, I like that they're making them with 6+1 capacity like the 336's, instead of the 4+1.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Amen!
@terrywagner7551
Жыл бұрын
I too hope Ruger brings back the 1894’s , maybe even a Limited Run in 41 mag !
@wayneg5697
Жыл бұрын
I could go for a .357 one for plinking fun
@iLuv2sixty9
Жыл бұрын
I'm hoping that they bring back the 1894 dark series
@chipsterb4946
Жыл бұрын
I read somewhere recently that Ruger can’t compete with Henry in the market segment where an 1894 fits. After looking at some Henry lever guns yesterday and talking with a manager at a store that sells a LOT of guns, I’m certain that there’s still a market for a Marlin 1894 with Ruger quality. Winchester/Miroku 1892s sell fast and sometimes for stupid money. The price point does need to be around $1,000 though and that may be tough.
@soldieron9965
Жыл бұрын
Glad to see a new channel, and because he’s a retired mechanical engineer with a lot of time of his hands, I bet the content is going to be fire!
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ikocher
Жыл бұрын
I can't wait for Ruger to bring back the 336 in 30-30 but I really hope they make a version just like the Guide Gun. That finish and wood styling but with the threaded barrel! I'm ready to buy!
@Highgear145
Жыл бұрын
The 336 35 Remington and 30-30 are next
@anthonysurrency7134
Жыл бұрын
Id love a non-microgroove 336
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
@iKocher That would be sweet!
@anthonysurrency7134
Жыл бұрын
@Timothy Mckee not with cast
@blackie1of4
Жыл бұрын
According to the website.. the 30-30 and the 35 Remington are next. Both having the same nutmeg laminate stock as you see in this video. I personally am waiting for the 35 Remington :)
@TonyYarusso
Жыл бұрын
I’m very curious to see whether Ruger will release any factory takedown rifles in revolver cartridges like .357 Magnum. Marlins were a common choice for aftermarket takedown conversions, so you’d think they could…
@rjwintl
Жыл бұрын
seems to be a really good 'lever-action' , however at Three Times The Price of my 2011 built Marlin 1895 , 45-70 Classic (with the 22 '' barrel) , I'd say my original Marlin can still take any North American big game animal as well as that "Carolina Ruger lever-gun'' !!!
@michaelmccamish4008
Жыл бұрын
I never get tired of shooting my level guns. Can’t wait for the 1894 to come out.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Likewise! Can't wait!
@christhomas2389
Жыл бұрын
Really waiting for the 1894 to come back and Ruger's take on the 39A.
@georgezink8256
Жыл бұрын
I would love to have a 39a in 23 magnum
@georgezink8256
Жыл бұрын
22 magnum
@martinswiney2192
Жыл бұрын
You certainly have an eye for detail. Now i gotta go look at all my lever guns and see if the hammers drag on the bolts. Like I dont already have enough problems. 😀
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Don't look. I've found that ignorance is bliss about half the time.
@martinswiney2192
Жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite ignorance is bliss and im happy as i can be.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Haha!
@EnvirotekCleaningSystems
Жыл бұрын
My favorite feature on the new Ruger Marlins is the curved stock grip vs the straight grip. The straight grip and the small lever makes for a painful day at the range if you are shooting factory heavy loads.😀
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
I prefer the style of the straight grip and have several rifles in that configuration. But you are spot on. With heavy recoil you have to mind your grip or feel the consequences😉
@daviddejong187
Жыл бұрын
I have a straight stock and have no problems withit
@chairzombie8378
Жыл бұрын
I like both! I have a pistol grip 336 and a straight-stock 1895G and both are great rifles.
@daviddejong187
Жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite I also have both on my lever guns. I also prefer the straight stocl-history thing probably I remember when I got my first straight stock I didn't think I would like it but found out I did! But at the same time I don't shoot a whole lot of heavy recoiling rounds when I go out.
@afridgetoofar1818
Жыл бұрын
I have many lever action rifles, and a vast majority have straight stocks. I much prefer straight stocks for both look and feel.
@arthurchadwell9267
Жыл бұрын
Give me the 1985 Cowboy version. Long octagonal barrel, 10 shots... Loved those
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Me too!
@ladybuggunner
Жыл бұрын
That's the way a rifle should look. Just beautiful! And that's the way a rifle should shoot. Just perfect! This is my favorite of all the many guns you've brought to us. And I'm just fine with you shooting all the hominy you can buy. Thanks for your hard work in bringing us another exceptional video. Sure hope you feel better soon!
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Thank you ma'am! I always appreciate your comments!
@seresamgala8125
Жыл бұрын
I was especially excited about Marlin's 1897 Cowboy octagonal barrel 45-75 GOVT offering, and the one offered in .357. I was so disappointed when they folded up shop and I had inadvertently missed the boat. I sure hope that Ruger makes some improvements and slowly brings those back; there is no design better than Marlin's lever actions!
@davidlaney8254
Жыл бұрын
Good catch on the bolt remaining in contact with the top of the hammer. It made me check my Henry, Winchester, and earlier Marlin lever actions to see if they had the proper fit. No issues with any of them. I'm sure the folks at Ruger will take note and sharpen their production standards.
@ericfreund5944
Жыл бұрын
I haven't read all the comments but I'm about to lay down my hard earned $$$ and was wondering if there was a follow up to the hammer issue? Thanks for the review.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Yes. The hammer was replaced within a week and that solved the problem completely. If memory serves me, my contact at Ruger indicated they modified their inspection process to make sure this doesn't happen again.
@Ledmetacdc
Жыл бұрын
I'm really interested to see if Ruger will resurrect the .308 marlin Express and .338 Marlin Express, since Remington killed those cartridges off for being associated with Hornady ammo. Ruger and Hornady have always been close partners, so I'm very hopeful we'll see a relaunch of those two rounds.
@richarddarnielle9161
Жыл бұрын
Hopefully I can get some more feedback with the bolt catching on the hammer. I'm unsure of what I need to do. Again I have the Ruger Marlin 1895 sbl. Great review!
@samhill3496
Жыл бұрын
I'm sure there's a lot more to come. A 336 in 30-30 will certainly be on the table. It just takes time.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Yes. The Ruger CEO said new models would roll out slowly. And that is what is happening.
@ciscokid5932
Жыл бұрын
I had the Marlin 444 back in 1994..Awesome rifle..I traded it for a Chinese M1,a.../ m-14 at a gun show...I have regretted that ever since..it 2022..!!
@TheRedRocket
Жыл бұрын
That's good shooting, George! Those are both nice rifles. My own Marlin 1895 Guide Gun is chambered for the .450 Marlin. It's got a "JM" stamped barrel. I replaced the standard squarish lever with a big lever from Brownells, as the smaller lever used to hit my knuckles whenever I shot it. I hope Ruger starts making the 1895 in .450 Marlin again. Thank you for another good video!
@TheRedRocket
Жыл бұрын
@black bear I own them both. The .450 is more powerful in factory loadings.
@DavidTrainmore
Жыл бұрын
I called Marlin, asked if my early ported Guide Gun could be converted to 450 M?? Nope, heat treat is different, and 45-70 case has more volume, anyways.
@JamesWilliams-cc1ow
Жыл бұрын
All Remington and Ruger made Marlins are fully heat treated, the Ruger is heat treated before milling which is more difficult but provides a better finished product. Conversion to a .450 is pointless and anyone who owns a .45-70 should get equipment to load for it. It is a wonderful and fun cartridge to shoot and load. And easy.
@DavidTrainmore
Жыл бұрын
@@JamesWilliams-cc1ow The phone call showed there is a difference between heat treats for 45-70, and 450 Marlins. The 450 M can be chambered in some bolt actions, whereas 45-70’s are limited to Siamese Arisaka copies of Mausers and a couple of Lee Enfields.
@JamesWilliams-cc1ow
Жыл бұрын
@@DavidTrainmore are you affirming that you recently spoke directly with the process engineer at the Marlin manufacturing cell at the Ruger plant in Mayoden, NC and that you were told that the pre-process heat treat that Ruger now uses is inferior to that used by previous iterations of Marlin rifles? Ruger-Marlin does not currently manufacture an 1895 model for the .450 marlin cartridge. The .450 Marlin is an obsolete cartridge because it has no advantages over the .45-70 Government.
@dalefourroux6402
Жыл бұрын
When do you think Ruger will come out with the cowboy edition with the 26-in barrel. Because that's the one I really want. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@garyK.45ACP
Жыл бұрын
I really hope that Marlin, under Ruger, gets back to their rightful place in the market. I hope to see .30-30, .35 Remington and .22 rifles soon (Model 39A). I am sure some people are anxious to see a .444 also. I think you're on the board of Ruger now, right? 😜 Well, tell them we would like to see some rifle versions with 22" or 24" barrel and half magazine. The unload feature is really a good idea. One of the major flaws of tube fed lever guns for many years. Thanks, George! 👍
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
I'm still waiting on my invite to come up to New Hampshire but it must be lost in the mail😄😄😄
@garyK.45ACP
Жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite They need you, George!
@waynehajek6346
Жыл бұрын
A blued and walnut 22" Model 336 in 25-35 Winchester would sure cure my itch.
@garyK.45ACP
Жыл бұрын
@@waynehajek6346 That's a tall order. I don't expect anyone to offer the .25-35 again. You could probably find a used Model 1893 ('93) in .25-36. This was an identical cartridge to the .25-35 WCF. Marlin wouldn't put Winchester's name on their rifles at that time. That's how it was. I won't be a 336, that cartridge was never offered in the 336 or the Model 36. If you can find a used one, they seem to go for $1000-$1300 in various calibers. (Don't go by asking prices on Gunbroker, go by "Sold" items in the advanced search) About the same as new "Trappers" and "Guide Guns" There is currently a .25-36 chambered Marlin 1893 ('93) with 26" barrel offered on Gunbroker with a starting price of $999 and no bids at this time.
@jm351
Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t be happier that Ruger got the marlin brand. Remington did their best to destroy the marlin lever gun and it’s reputation. I’ve always loved Rugers as well. Win win for me. Lol
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Definitely a win-win!
@silverhorder1969
Жыл бұрын
I hope the bring back the 1894 straight walnut stock 357 & 44 mag. I prefer it. As well as the smaller lever instead of that huge loop lever.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
👍👍 on both of your "hopes"
@steveshannon6497
Жыл бұрын
Good information on a classic gun. Hopefully they’ll put the old 444 Marlin back in the line up soon. I’d love to see it in that same model.
@robertlinton5966
Жыл бұрын
More likely we will see the 450 bushmaster
@johnathanhurd3561
Жыл бұрын
450 bushmaster ammo is more plentiful and dare I say cheaper than 444?
@18winsagin
Жыл бұрын
Haha, that thing rocks you pretty good and you appear to be average size but I'm 150 lbs soaking wet with a pocket full of rocks and mine rattles me pretty good but I love it, best short rifle for all around use.
@jasonmiller6371
Жыл бұрын
My dad bought a Marlin 1895 in their later years before going bust. He kept it in the box and never shot it. When he passed my brother inherited it, but he found it won't even chamber the cartridges! It's no wonder Marlin went out of business. I'm glad Ruger is making quality Marlin guns again.
@nunyabeezwax1413
Жыл бұрын
They need to bring back the actual guide gun. Straight stock walnut with a standard lever .
@richpaydirt
Жыл бұрын
I love the marlin 336. I’ve never forgiven myself for trading my .444 years ago. Would love to see this caliber produced again. Awesome and hard hitting brush round.
@DavidTrainmore
Жыл бұрын
I sold a 444 Centennial because I couldn’t carry it in my pickup gun rack, due to the 24” bbl. P U’s aren’t getting wider these days, either!
@JasonSmith-qj5zp
Жыл бұрын
The wood to metal looks way better than the Marlin I bought 4 years ago. It's not as good as my Winchester.
@rlmillercpa
Жыл бұрын
Beautiful rifle. Love the look of the furniture. Thank you for sharing, George!
@rustybayonet1664
Жыл бұрын
In the United States, We from the Working class, know that it always works on paper. We were able fix YOUR mistakes and make it work the first time. 🤣🤣🤣
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Haha! Well done👍👍
@paulcupach8196
Жыл бұрын
Wow! That is a beautiful gun! If the new Marlin .44 Magnum is even close to what that gun is, I'll be trading my Henry for it!
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people will feel that way when they see the new Marlins side by side with a comparable Henry.
@stansbornak8116
Жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the 1894!
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Me too.
@billdonnelly1134
Жыл бұрын
Another good video. 👍 love the traditional blued and wood tone. I would like them to come out with a 24" to 26" barrell as well as in 30 30 cal . Keep up the good work. Your engineering experience really pays off on your eye for detail to the benefit of the rest of us and the manufacturers. Thanks again for your commitment 👏.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@richardmoorer2668
Жыл бұрын
There was a cowboy model Marlin 45 70. 26" octagon barrel.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Yep. I almost bought that one before I ran into my Winchester 1886.
@jordanmorales8610
Жыл бұрын
Ruger is doing right by Marlin, thank God.
@jims9249
Жыл бұрын
Looks very nice. It will be interesting to see if other calibers will be added.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Yes sir they are coming. I mentioned them in the video in case you missed it.
@flesheater5712
Жыл бұрын
Just came across your channel.. Great job on the video honesty is always the best. Always great to have another hickok45 style ,but with your own flavor, presenter. Keep it up. Yes I'm aware you been around quite awhile. But your channel really seems to be getting traction now.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate your comment!
@InGratitudeIam
Жыл бұрын
I admire your dedication, George. I hope that bolt issue gets resolved. I'm surprised a fluted bolt isn't used across the entire 1895 line. I hope that stout recoil cleared your sinuses.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Tom, it sure moved stuff around💥
@weldonwilson
Жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite Sinuses, shoulder, fillings in your teeth... 😊
@TheKhanhhoa
Жыл бұрын
is this a john m. browning john designed rifle.....maybe he had a 1894 in 30 cal. I'm not sure, but I do know that the 30 cal. round out performs the 45-70 by a large margin and did you see the man's shoulder take that HUGE recoil....the 30 cal has SO much LESS recoil......that browning ( whatever the number of the rifle was, it sold millions world wide....still think his was a 1895 model winchester.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
These Marlin rifles were originally designed by John Marlin but the round bolt variation came in 1948. None of them had a Winchester or Browning connection. The direct competitor to the Marlin 1895 / 336 design was the Winchester model 1894 or later known as the model 94.
@brianwinters5434
Жыл бұрын
Ruger has always had great quality control. I have owned over 15 Ruger handguns and over 18 long guns. All good quality going back to my first Ruger in 1975.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
👍👍
@44240xtp
Жыл бұрын
I love Ruger. A great American company. I had the pleasure to meet Bill Ruger at a Houston shot show many years ago. He was a left handed shooter if I remember correctly.
@chadhaire1711
Жыл бұрын
Ruger quality? Come to the shop and see all their guns going back for warranty work, along with S&W
@44240xtp
Жыл бұрын
@@chadhaire1711 What brand do you see not go back to the shop ?
@chadhaire1711
Жыл бұрын
@@44240xtp Glock, REAL Sigs like 226/228, Most CZ, Most Beretta.....most of the time. HK USP but other HK strikers not as good...their polymer has always been sad except USP.
@woodrowmagnus2535
Жыл бұрын
I have a Marlin 22 from the 60's, and it's still a great gun. I have a Ruger PC-40 from the 90's, and it's junk. I wouldn't buy another Ruger. Now, these Ruger/Marlin rifles you're showing, are they any better than the junk that Remington was putting out after it had bought up Marlin? I know that there was a recall on lots of those Remington/Marlins.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Remington finally got the bugs worked out and made some great Marlins. Ruger bought all of their machines, tooling, and intellectual property. Then Ruger spent over a year "getting set up". Now they're making some great Marlin 1895s. The model 336 is next.
@Denner771
Жыл бұрын
Excellent. I sure hope Ruger resurrects the 450 Marlin, an excellent cartridge that feeds and loads like butter. Kudos to Ruger for keeping an American legend alive. I will indeed purchase one from Ruger.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
I know most folks won't watch a video to the very end but that's where I posted the future plans that Marlin has and it does appear to include the 450 Marlin cartridge
@jonlennon3348
Жыл бұрын
Were you shooting crimped 45-70 shells with round ball in them.I would swear you loaded crimped shells sort of like a blank crimp.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
The rounds I was shooting today were either topped with a Lehigh defense extreme defense bullet or a Nosler 300 grain round nose Flex tip bullet
@kentwilliams4152
Жыл бұрын
Somehow Marlins seem to look way better without the silencer extension. Now, if that could just be an option…
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
I'm with you. But the market seems to be demanding muzzle devices. Go figure!
@johncoleman2495
10 ай бұрын
I love that Ruger is building the blued guide gun, but i hate the stocks. My blued walnut original guide gun is by far my favorite Marlin lever action. I really kick myself for not finding a .444p back in the day. While i was looking i came across a Winchester 94 timber carbine and liked it enough to abandon my search. Now its a hole in my levergun history.
@TargetSuite
10 ай бұрын
I've got a few of those holes as well
@jamesfairmind2247
Жыл бұрын
I must be incredibly lucky but I bought a Remington period BLG Marlin which I guess from its serial number was built in 2018 that is perfect in every way. The wood to metal fit is 100 per cent and the quality of finish of the action, barrel and stock is as good as any mass produced weapon in that price range, and just as good as any pre Remington ones I have inspected. It is the blued version. To qualify myself, I own a lot of high end guns like Beretta, Purdy and Holland and Holland shotguns, and I am very fussy about fit and finish, so when I found the rifle in a shop I could not believe that it was as good as it was bearing in mind the terrible Remington rep. It is slick in action operation and extremely accurate too. However, I looked at another Marlin GBL on the shelf in that shop, a newer version that had just come in and it was not even slightly in the same league. It all reminded me of a comparable motorbike story. I was in a motorcycle dealership in 1992 and I saw a stunningly beautiful 1992 model Ducati 900ss and bought it on the spot even though I had only gone there for an oil filter for my dirt bike. There was a 1991 model beside it which was ugly and the 1993 model also right beside it too had all the high quality bits of the 1992 removed and downgraded and in a flash I knew exactly what had happened. Ducati had massively upgraded the model in 1992 but then the accounts department must have stepped in and complained because the cost of production was too high so they downgraded every single part of the bike from 1993 onwards. That my friends is why today a "white frame" 1992 Ducati 900ss is worth 3 times as much as any other year of that bike to a collector. Well I reckon just by luck I happened to walk into that gunshop and found the (one production run only) pre-accountancy Remlin GBL.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Next time you're shopping for guns or motorcycles, please let me know😉
@ridgerunner3364
Жыл бұрын
Me too, the late model remlin is great!
@Outlander18
3 ай бұрын
Can a skinner peep sight be added on the receiver?
@angussmith4305
Жыл бұрын
Thankyou Sir for an excellent review with the 'Engineer's eye for fine detail' many thanks.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
You are welcome. Thanks for watching!
@jakeoutdoors9600
Жыл бұрын
I wish they would make this in 500 S&W. I think it would fit if they didn't scallop the sides of the receiver. A lot of people would buy a reasonably priced 500 S&W lever gun. They would need to cut the throat and have the action tuned to shoot everything from the 275 grain loads to the 700s.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
That would be a great gun. But I don't know if the 1895 action is strong enough for that cartridge.
@fredericrike5974
Жыл бұрын
Six years of college and who knows how much post grad, twenty plus years at a career building other people's bits and bobs and it all came down to a hominy blowout! Awesome! Fr
@pinerider19
Жыл бұрын
I am waiting for the 1984 and the 336 to come back, I want one chambered in 44 magnum and 30-30
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
👊👊
@jefferysmith9320
Жыл бұрын
I have no interest in a 45/70. Ruger/Marlin offers no choice.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
I get that. And 45-70 is not my favorite cartridge in a lever gun. I am sure 😉Ruger is working diligently to get a more traditional lever gun out the door.
@williamryan9195
Жыл бұрын
I'll bet that rubbing problem turns out to be a non issue. Touch it with some lube and let it work in. Beautiful work from Ruger
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
👍👍
@ChuckinSteel
Жыл бұрын
I have a jp model over 30 yrs old and it does the same thing just not so bad
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Interesting!
@ChuckinSteel
Жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite I just looked at all 3 of my jp models. 2 of bolts have been relieved cut (as In a partial flat cut) so the bolt only contacts the hammer on the ramp... but the other one just has a round bolt that rides the hammer. Weird huh..
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
That is strange.
@dsg4797
Жыл бұрын
My dad always liked both Ruger and Marlin as gun makers,so do I,just well made guns!😊
@winstonnewell6112
Жыл бұрын
i would skip this gun and buy a henry better wood and no cross bolt safety
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Henry makes great guns. But I'll take the crossbolt safety over the transfer bar safety on all the Henry's. I personally think a lever gun needs a half cock safety and Henry is missing that tradition!
@paisleyprince5280
Жыл бұрын
Every firearm should come from the factory with a threaded barrel.
@michaelharris1455
Жыл бұрын
I'd rather have one without, thank you.
@johndyer8875
Жыл бұрын
he was covering the blanks up with his tumb as he loaded the gun
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Fortunately, the men and women that follow me have gotten to know me. And they are not prone to slander like this. If you're not a troll and really interested in classic firearms, I hope you'll watch more of my content. Then you'll see that I try to deliver good information . . . always. Btw, those rounds were topped with solid brass FTM bullets from Lehigh Defense.
@YTBEN1045
Жыл бұрын
I guess I'm more of a traditionalist so I can't be happy until Ruger comes out with the cowboy versions of the 1894, 1895 etc. The real lever guns!
@johngallagher2313
Жыл бұрын
I had a Remlin version for a while. It was a good shooter and functioned flawlessly but the wood was not exactly Remington's best effort. I sold it and have regretted it ever since. Oh well gun traders blues. My Trapper has more than replaced it though. I put the offset hammer spur on my Trapper for additional surface area and the bolt bump does rub that but not the hammer.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
👍👍
@barrychase9969
10 ай бұрын
brown laminate. do we have a shortage of walnut trees?
@TargetSuite
10 ай бұрын
Apparently not. They put some beautiful Walnut on the 336 and the 1894. But, the Guide Gun which is designed to function in very inclement conditions got the laminated stock which I believe is the right option.
@ClayBlasdel44
Жыл бұрын
I have a couple of old Marlin lever guns and love em, but I never wanted any Civil war cartridges. Even my old Marlin 30-30 made in 1900 had better ballistics. I dont understand the love affair with rainbow ballistics. so, I'll pass.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
I get it. If I could only have one to feed the family and fend off the occasional critter it would be a 35 remington.
@ClayBlasdel44
Жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite I agree. If I had a choice of calibers, I'd pick a 35 Rem too. 300 Savage is another great lever cartridge that gets no love
@richardelliott9511
Жыл бұрын
You and Ruger are really teasing us with these guns. My 45/70 Marlin tag has already been filled with a 95 Cowboy, but that SS Trapper sure seems to be calling my name.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Haha!
@1962egl
Жыл бұрын
I just hope it don’t have one of those terrible ruger triggers
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
No sir. It's a 4 lb trigger all the way. Very satisfying!
@trapdoorspringfieldmodel1888
Жыл бұрын
I strongly recommend that Ruger make the loading gate butter smooth on that Guide Gun. Also, they should make the unloading of it have the same smoothness you reference that the Trapper has. The reason is that the Marlin brand is still recovering from serious damage and so people are still going to be skittish when being asked to put down a sizeable chunk of change. And anything that can be perceived as a negative can blow up and hurt sales and reputation; especially if there is a perception (real or imagined) that the J.M. stamped Marlins are still better. Also, a lot of gun people aren't going to perceive one gun as being a deluxe model and the other being a premium. They are going to compare them head to head and they will see the price difference between them as being primarily the use of stainless steel and a fluted bolt in one and not the other. Anyways, I wish Marlin the best of luck because more quality lever guns on the market are a good thing in my view.
@JamesWilliams-cc1ow
Жыл бұрын
It could not be any smoother! No where does Ruger call the SBL/TSBL a premium and the GBL not a premium. I happen to own both the Ruger-Marlin SBL and the newest GBL and a Remington-Marlin SBL (plus JM models) and the GBL is equal in every way to any Marlin ever made when it comes to smoothness of loading and unloading and operation. The GBL under JM and Rem did not have a fluted bolt either and Ruger-Marlin is simply reintroducing the models as they were previously made but better. They are better. They is no questioning that, they are better thus far and it is not even close, particularly late JMs and early Rem-Marlins.
@trapdoorspringfieldmodel1888
Жыл бұрын
@@JamesWilliams-cc1ow Premium and deluxe are Target Suite's words and not mine that he used in the comparison between the two. In that comparison he mentioned that the inside of the loading gate on the Trapper is butter smooth while the Guide Gun as he says "is not bad . . . but not what I would call butter smooth." To me I see no real reason as to why they both shouldn't be butter smooth, and since Ruger isn't marketing one as a deluxe and one as a premium most if not all gun people aren't going make the distinction that Target Suite did. So my comment is based on his direct review of the two in the video head to head, and I want Ruger to succeed with Marlin. The thing is that Marlin is a damaged brand that is going to be dealing with a customer base that is going to be naturally skittish. So any little detail, even one that is minor, can end up being blown up on the internet and still be a drag on a truly great gun years later (the 2020 Colt Python is a great example of this). Anyways, I hope that what you wrote is the overall experience many have or are going to have in the Ruger made line of Marlin rifles. If they do then these might just end up being the best Marlins made in decades. And yes, I do have experience with the quality issues that the late JM Marlin had in what was my first rifle. It was a Marlin Model 81TS that needed repair shortly after my father had given it to me for Christmas as my first .22 rifle. He sent it back to the factory under warranty to be fixed. Their recommend way to fix the issue required the user to violate the Marlin Safety Code. In the end my father managed to get a refund for the rifle. Ultimately, that bad Marlin rifle was great for me because I ended up learning about what I actually liked in a rifle, how to select wood, what kind of action I liked, balance, etc., and in the end the rifle I picked out with my father was a Winchester 9422. So bad JM Marlin quality landed me with a truly great gun. Now why didn't I go with a Marlin 39a? Well, in part it was because I did have that bad Marlin taste in my mouth, but mainly it was because my father already had one so it made no sense to me to have two of the same gun in the house.
@JamesWilliams-cc1ow
Жыл бұрын
@@trapdoorspringfieldmodel1888 Thank you for the explanation. I guess you did not catch that I own the (Ruger-Marlin) GBL (Guide Gun) reviewed and a Ruger-Marlin SBL and a Rem-Marlin SBL and a flock of other various Marlins. I am not finding a significant difference in the loading gates between the three that are unusual or not typical of gun to gun minor variations. I have run a couple of boxes of home loads through my new GBL with no issues. My GBL hammer also does not drag on the bolt. I like Ruger and I wish them well and I think they are off to a great start with Marlin.
@easttexan2933
Жыл бұрын
Hey George, fine looking rifle. Stock is very nice. Will be glad to see the 30-30 come back on line though. I don't have any use for a shoulder thumper like you young guys lol. Good shootin on your part too. I
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Max! Looking forward to the 336 as well.
@easttexan2933
Жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite George, you're always welcome to stop by for a cup of coffee on your way between home and farm. Look forward to seeing you again.
@jh5869
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video of a gorgeous rifle. I’m a Marlin man from way back, but these prices are brutal!🤠🤨
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Those prices are not being driven by Ruger's wholesale cost. They're being driven by the middle men who are scalping and taking advantage of the demand for these new Marlin Firearms
@jh5869
Жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite that’s exactly what I thought. Back in the day, Marlins were a working man’s gun. Now it feels like a Gucci boutique gun. Prices around my area are getting close to the Winchesters. Not what Mr. Marlin intended. You and I are a lot alike in our choices for firearms. Thanks for the reply, and keep up the good work.🤠🤠
@fuzztsimmers3415
Жыл бұрын
wish theyd make the model 336 in 30/30 again
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
My guess is that it's coming soon. Maybe before Christmas
@survivaloptions4999
Жыл бұрын
"You've never been allowed to own two stage hominy rockets." - Sniffy Joe, probably.
@MIKE-se8ye
Жыл бұрын
Enjoy your posts very much Sir!
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I appreciate that!
@charlesdeshler202
Жыл бұрын
Very nice review.... That Hominy shot was impressive. Even exploded the Mtn Dew. I'll be getting a GG when I can
@bosse641
Жыл бұрын
Such a beauty. Drooling.
@davidneal6920
Жыл бұрын
Nice rifle. Classic, both the rifle and calibre. Good bear defence
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Yessir I agree all around!
@WMDTVIDS
Жыл бұрын
Good video, I love to see the 1895 still going strong with its third manufacturer. The guide guns are cool, but i'd really like to see Ruger go the other way and re issue the Cowboy series. 9 rounds of 45-70 cannot be wrong. And in 30-30 and 38-55 too.
@Leverguns50
Жыл бұрын
I hope you’re feeling better, that was an excellent looking marlin
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeremy. I meant to put the clock you made for me on display. But being under the weather had me off my game. But if you were watching closely a corner of it did fly by in one of those close up pictures of the Marlin.
@Leverguns50
Жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite thank you
@myidahocabin7503
Жыл бұрын
Those bullets you were using in the intro didn't look like a JSP. What were they?
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
They are solid brass Extreme Penetrator bullets from Lehigh Defense
@myidahocabin7503
Жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite Wicked!!!
@MrZonacat1
Жыл бұрын
The 450 Marlin is a beast. I hope they bring it back.
@Perry2186
Жыл бұрын
yeah im wantin 444 fits my needs better
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Looks like you both may get your wish.
@robthedrummer5190
Жыл бұрын
1:10 Why are you loading blanks?
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Those are full house loads topped with Lehigh Defense Solid Brass Extreme Penetrator bullets.
@Mark-uq9km
Жыл бұрын
I loved seeing the traditional Marlin hooded front sight again. I'm hoping the 336 is soon to arrive in .35 Remington. I know the .30-30 is more popular but the .35 Rem packs a lot more punch than the old .30-30. I would bet money on the .444 coming out soon but I doubt if the .450 Marlin will ever come back into production. Thank you, George for your reviews. I always look forward to your productions.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment Mark. If you'll go back and watch the end of the video you'll see that there may be hope for the 450 Marlin cartridge.
@hankl.biermanii5620
Жыл бұрын
I have a Marlin 336 XLR in 35 Remington and I absolutely love it. It’s about seven or eight years old I think, and it was made and bought before Remington got a hold of Marlin. I think Marlins are some of the greatest guns ever made.
@Mark-uq9km
Жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite By golly, that would be all right with me. Marlin and Hornady tried to make the lever rifle fill all needs with new cartridges like the .308 Marlin and the .338 Marlin. Sadly, both rifles are no longer made and I'm not even sure a person can find ammo anymore. I would like to see the 1895 Marlin add the .375 Winchester and the .348 Winchester. I can dream.....
@ciscokid5932
Жыл бұрын
I want that rifle in 444....but there are handloads in 45/70 that are just AMAZING....in north America..444 will do just fine..
@loquat44-40
Жыл бұрын
IF you are a mechanical engineer I would be curious someday for a detail comparison between the 336 vs the 94 actions, especially in regards to strength. But as an engineer there are likely other insights between the two that you could discuss. There also are some that think that the 92 was the strongest of all of the winchester 19th century designs. On another topic, I think that marlin loop lever is an abomination the detracts from the utility of that design.
@kodibassInsideoutboards
Жыл бұрын
I Have been trying to buy me a SBL, But I live on a remote Island off the coast of Alaska, With none available so far, Hope someday. Beautiful gun.
@bradbo3
Жыл бұрын
Beautiful guns. I cant wait to get one myself. I love my henry 45-70….but those marlins just look amazing.
@hutehund9519
Жыл бұрын
Great shooting as always! And another beauty by the new Marlin! Although I have to be honest and say with blued steel, I prefer walnut over laminated. Otherwise, while my JM Guide Gun in 450 has a straight stock, I'd prefer that pistol grip. Let's put those threaded barrels to work! How about suppressing it? I see that subsonic ammo laying on the deer skin 😉
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Haha! Sharp eyes Bud!
@garrettgibson9571
26 күн бұрын
Seems like all you can find from Marlin is the trappers. Good luck finding the guide gun or the classic 30-30 series anywhere. Over 3 years now and they still aren’t available.
@juanmacias418
Жыл бұрын
i got lucky with my marlin 1895 DARK... it shoots 1/2 MOA with an optic and just over MOA with the ghost ring sights... and that's with multiple kinds of ammo including paper patched lead to hornady leverloution....
@TT-ch2pz
Жыл бұрын
What's next for Ruger/Marlin? 1894 44mag SBL?
@Threewolfs-
Жыл бұрын
Still want the 16” Trapper, have the “old” Marlin Guide gun (love it, one of my favorite 1895’s). Love me some Marlin, love me some Ruger, really love me some Ruger/Marlin. Can’t wait to get my hands on one, if not all. 🤙🏼❤️🇺🇸🤠
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
Good luck on your "hunt"
@Threewolfs-
Жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite thanks 🤠
@Bixll09
Жыл бұрын
I have an original Marlin 1895. In 45-70. Purchased by my great Grandfather in 1912.
@TietLung
Жыл бұрын
Impatiently waiting on the 1894 release from Ruger. Very impatiently lol.
@searchingfor6thgear44
Жыл бұрын
I love my .45-70. It's basically the only gun I carry in the woods, now. Thanks for this
@dragonhealer7588
Жыл бұрын
I'm waiting on the 39A in .327 magnum/.32 H&R magnum. Edit: and thread the muzzle 1/2-20....
@joshuamontgomery4992
Жыл бұрын
Got a sp101...pile of junk....357 that won't take any 357 shells. Huge burrs all over, laser markings look like shit. Would have said ok if $200 gun but not close
@archieesimmons6514
Жыл бұрын
The fore end on this gun is to thick. On the original Marlin the found was proportional to the metal. We the fans want to see the original style back. They need to do one with butt plate and brass ring around the fore end. We want the original gun with no threaded barrels. The original chambering. 35 Remington-. 45=LC version modified so it will shoot the 45 scoffield. Aka 45= short colt. 44 magnum -357/38-327/32 HR magnum-like Henry has. 44 Marlin and the 30/30 with walnut wood. This might be a short lived reboot. Reasonable priced. Beach wood or maple stock.
@TargetSuite
Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what you mean by thick forend. My 1950 Marlin 336 has a forend that would hide this one.
@FlamingRobzilla
Жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but Americans love watching things blow up. I know I do. Thanks for the video, you just scratched an itch. LOL
@jimmywarren6685
Жыл бұрын
Enjoy your videos....but I just have no interest in the 45--70. I have been a bullet caster for years...and most casters like the 45-70...I don't dislike like it...but I just don't care for it. But, I feel the same way by 45Colt...matter of fact, I sold all of my Colt guns except for a Ruger New Vaquero and all of my Colt bullet molds....go figure.
@m118lr
Жыл бұрын
A Winchester and Henry guy myself. BUT I have ALWAYS liked the SS 1895 Guide Gun in .45-70…
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