What are your thoughts on the updated groupset? Are the changes for the better or should SRAM have focused elsewhere? And how do you feel about the sparkly paint? Let us know your thoughts in the comments 👇
@abhimawa1
Жыл бұрын
15 yrs ago I went from XT/XTR to X-9/X-0, then returned to XTR. I was an ‘anti mainstream’ one until I realized it’s sexy to be UN-mainstram until it’s NOT. There’s reason why Shimano rules the market, and it’s not written on the brochure, say durability, design maturity, ergonomics, and I appreciate why Shimano designed its components the Shimano way; not sexy but highly dependable.
@kawabus
11 ай бұрын
Shimano 12psd Di2 is smoother and more refined than the new force
@abhimawa1
11 ай бұрын
@@kawabus correct. It’s about shifting & braking. Not to mention the brifter’s ergonomics feeling. Having Shimano is ‘un-sexy’ but they’re more ‘matured’
@pin0teres
Жыл бұрын
Next on Sram products lineup: cycling socks integrated with a shoe.
@LOGICAL-JAY
Жыл бұрын
Lol
@dan_lazaro
Жыл бұрын
Imagine how stinky that'd be since you'd only have 1 sock, or having to wash the shoe everyday
@galenkehler
Жыл бұрын
Disposable shoes that you simply throw out after each use 😂
@tepperpepper1047
Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing you don't follow football/soccer shoes
@amitkumar-wj8gn
Жыл бұрын
Sram: How do we make our product stand out? Design head: Stickers. We need stickers. Cheap looking stickers.
@LOGICAL-JAY
Жыл бұрын
Lol..they should of kept it simple, all black(matte or gloss/stealth look) with small logos
@edrcozonoking
Жыл бұрын
And remove features!!!!
@neon3690
Жыл бұрын
I still can't you have to throw away a perfectly good powder meter. This on 1-star product for me.
@luukrutten1295
Жыл бұрын
Oof. I actually think the sparkling glossy paint and decals look out of place. And again integrated chainrings arent great. Except for wear after 35-40k km. Chainrings can get bent in a crash, have a tooth break off during chainsuck. Or a change of gearing is required. so many possible reasons to change a chainring ring out.
@robhaddock2034
Жыл бұрын
Just looks like someone has mixed up Force, Red and Rival parts. Holographic stickers and sparkle paint are a bit old hat now too. Very odd.
@LOGICAL-JAY
Жыл бұрын
💯 exactly..they should of kept it simply all black matte or gloss(similar to shimano's look)..sram should of went with a stealth look with small logos instead of sticker looking logos..
@nootnoot1463
Жыл бұрын
Integrated chainrings (especially with a power meter attached) is an irredeemable drawback. I don't know why you don't criticise these things more.
@pilikiosuafoa1727
Жыл бұрын
It definitely needs to be out there more. Definitely don't think SRAM made a good decision there
@kj929
Жыл бұрын
blips are throw away too .. and not cheap … not sure what SRAM thinking .. they are becoming. a SCAM
@kidsafe
Жыл бұрын
In my experience, the monolithic Red style chainrings shift better than the 2-piece 4x107bcd rings due to being stiffer and truer.
@katleendemetser3165
Жыл бұрын
I was waiting on the new version, but with the integrated powermeter I’m thinking to take ultegra di2. Of you need to change, you need also buy a powermeter for the second time. Not the way I Will spend the extra money Every time.
@joelzylstra2971
Жыл бұрын
I don’t think the chain rings are one piece to the crank, just each other. Personally if I had to replace one chainring I would likely do them both for good measure anyway.
@Kevinwalker777
Жыл бұрын
Whoops on that audio editing! Looking like this might need a re-edit.
@harrybbbb
Жыл бұрын
So, somebody paid for you to spend a few days in the Algarve testing the new SRAM on the off chance that you’ll come up with a glowing review. Just in case they needed to over-egg the freebie pudding you got a top of the range bike to ride about at home for a few weeks.
@atassisamer
Жыл бұрын
Excellent review! What is the life expectancy of the front and rear derailleurs ? This is an important consideration, because replacement cost of the electronic derailleurs is way more expensive. Thanks
@Sebazy
Жыл бұрын
As much as I'd love to ditch Shimano, this isn't it. Having to throw away my powermeter when I replace my chainrings is just insane. I suspect the RD delay would bug me as well. Meh.
@dan_lazaro
Жыл бұрын
Wait isn't this chainset have a crank based power meter and the chainring is the one where you remove it with bolts near the crank spindle like mtb cranks? I used to also think that Sram had a 1 piece crank but I was trashtalked by someone and told no one would design a crank where you can't change the chainring lol Edit: nvm I took a closer look
@witepa
8 ай бұрын
The contact point adjustment was removed from Force D1 to Force D2.
@StreamBikesNL
Жыл бұрын
I quite like the aesthetics tbh but the bar tape job on the Crux was a little done a little hastily.
@Star14trek
Жыл бұрын
From the voice I knew who it was on the distance shot in the sun .... But it looked like a head swap had been carried out ! 🤣
@alexbeltran404
Жыл бұрын
I don't think this is the version of the video you intended to upload; it feels unfinished.
@8paolo96
Жыл бұрын
Shimano: we will make the newest bestest groupset for pros and then resell the same tech for amateurs some years later as ultegra and 105. Sram: let's make Rival the best cheap electronic groupset and then the next year use the same tech and ergonomics on the more expensive groupset but with more shiny stuff while we let Red get old. I love Sram, but they're working upside down of what I feel correct
@XaVaEcAofficial
Жыл бұрын
Please immediate comparison to Ultegra Di2 as I am wondering which group-set to settle for on a new aero bike.
@el_nachos442
Жыл бұрын
You like Old tech? Get Ultegra!!! You live in the present? Buy new Force or Red!
@jprowland
Жыл бұрын
9:00 I heard "a winter of straight and flat psychopath commutes" and I'm like "oh he must ride with the same car drivers as me" before I realized
@galenkehler
Жыл бұрын
This has some shimano Acera vibes, pretty sure they even had a version that had a sparkle decal
@travischapman6763
Жыл бұрын
If even sram can make a FD, then bring back 2x for all road and gravel!!
@scherzo0o
Жыл бұрын
can one change the chainring on the 1x, gravel specific crank? Interested in different no. of teeth and oval chainrings.
@tjgato
Жыл бұрын
Tempting but integrated Chain rain is still not right for me. Especially since i still have to Change my wheelset but does New blimps are nice
@johnberenyi2501
2 ай бұрын
Screw that...throwing away a perfectly good power meter is freakin' insane. The person that made that decision needs to be fired at Sram. No thanks, I'll keep my older Force group set. It works perfectly and I like the shifters better because I have large hands. No full upgrade here for me folks but I may consider changing to the newer FD and or RD but nothing else.
@ozgurinsan
Жыл бұрын
Can never compete with the Ultegra.
@bikeradar
Жыл бұрын
We will be putting them head-to-head to find out
@TheWaikheenryanelf
Жыл бұрын
I planned to buy this w/o powermeter chain set, to match with 1x left powered arm.. please tell me this is possible..
@davethedogdude
Жыл бұрын
I don't know about the 46/33, but if you can get along with a Force D2 43/30 crank, then it is still 2 piece like old force, and you for sure can use the new D2 force 1x left crank arm in it. A Force D2 43/30 power meter crank out of the box is a lefty power meter crank just like Rival. That's why they cost less than the bigger cranks with the integrated power meter. It would be cheaper to just buy the power meter version up front though if you can.
@edrcozonoking
Жыл бұрын
"move over Ultegra" ????i own bikes with both groupsets as well as Dura Ace and SRAM Red. Ultegra is just superior in performance and smoothness compared to SRAM and a better value that Dura Ace.
@departurexx1520
Жыл бұрын
This weight is as heavy as the Mechanical 105 and paid more than that because of electronic shifting. But is a Instagram worthy!! Lolzz.
@uaproman
Жыл бұрын
And what about th weigh?)
@ChrisCapoccia
Жыл бұрын
I wish new Force meant that Rival was cheaper
@pawelodz8050
Жыл бұрын
Compared this group to newest Sram MTB groups I think all Sram Road groups are outdated
@micahsherer7189
Жыл бұрын
Oh good. They got the SRAM hater/Shimano fanboi from the last video to review the new SRAM grouppo.
@LOGICAL-JAY
Жыл бұрын
Lol..I have sram red and ultegra di2 12speed..honestly I like the way shimano works and shifts better than sram..but honestly they're both great.
@adamjd7645
Жыл бұрын
As opposed to a SRAM fanboi such as yourself? SRAM is ok... but just ok.
@micahsherer7189
Жыл бұрын
@@adamjd7645 I actually ride friction shifters, so I don't have a dog in the fight. More just referring to their video a couple months ago where they basically said SRAM should get rid of everything that makes it different and become knockoff Shimano.
@LOGICAL-JAY
Жыл бұрын
@@adamjd7645 I like both..but I just prefer my shimano ultegra di2 over my Sram red..they all do the same thing..lol..Pepsi vs coke, xbox vs Playstation, etc...lol..get both if you can.
@adamjd7645
Жыл бұрын
@@micahsherer7189 I do agree that a desire to have all brands become mirrors of each other isn't good for the industry.
@SephGarreffa
Жыл бұрын
Oh... holographics/Prism effect on levers and parts? i'm not sure about it... it kinda looks too sparkly. New frames are already dope with the paintjob, on side parts no thanks!!!
@mattkrivosudsky9057
Жыл бұрын
you lost me at "integrated chainrings with powermeter.."
@allenjay896
Жыл бұрын
Dont forget! More expensive-er
@TieuBachBach
Жыл бұрын
888 view 😁
@CatDaddySteve
Жыл бұрын
Not expensive enough, everyone knows You don't compete with anything older than 1 year and any less than TourDeFrance race price tag
@tonipiris1698
Жыл бұрын
Sram kk
@andrejandre2732
Жыл бұрын
Bigger sprocket is more effective, that because Shimano is number ONE!
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