What do you think of the new SRAM Red AXS groupset? 😍
@Alex-gl2dw
4 ай бұрын
Overpriced.
@gcn
4 ай бұрын
@@Alex-gl2dw SRAM do offer groupsets at every budget.
@joshaalders3029
4 ай бұрын
Well ya sold me on it… Goodbye $3000…
@mitchpaliga4851
4 ай бұрын
Drool!
@feedbackzaloop
4 ай бұрын
Extra buttons on the hoods, head unit integration - they finally caught up with Shimano 9 speed Flight Deck.
@oliverrch5370
4 ай бұрын
I always love watching videos of things I most definitely do not need and cannot afford.
@gcn
4 ай бұрын
How to spot a true bike nerd! We love it 🙌
@celsodossantosjr113
4 ай бұрын
I agree. New fancy bikes, sail boats, planes and sports cars. None of which I can afford, but love watching the videos…
@JonCannings
4 ай бұрын
@@celsodossantosjr113❤
@havaderedregsaugscherde1668
4 ай бұрын
Welcome to the club 😅
@wjeurs
4 ай бұрын
Trying to find ways to explain this to my bank account 😂 Worked at a high end bike shop for a while where selling a €6k bike was something normal that happened to each colleague 3 times a day.... I remember being not-impressed by ultegra builds even though I wasn't able to afford them😅
@kestralrider313
4 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for this groupset to drop to buy my dream build all-road bike and it appears worth the wait. I own bikes with both the 1st and 2nd generation Red Axs and personally never felt the front end shifting was a problem, but the levers do appear to be a nice improvement and I like that they defaulted to what was a harder to find medium cage in the back.
@DrGKickAss
4 ай бұрын
#marryme 😂
@JonCannings
4 ай бұрын
These new levers are amazing! So comfy and feel effortless to pull, which sounds weird as the previous ones were easy!
@gcn
4 ай бұрын
You'll love the new groupset! What bike is this going on? 👀
@kestralrider313
4 ай бұрын
@@gcn ENVE Fray, unless I can get a screaming deal on a Melee. Cheers!
@michaelcheng6469
4 ай бұрын
Nice, let's hope to see $25k+ bikes in the near future. I was worried where I was going to spend my next weekly pay check.
@EramPrince
4 ай бұрын
After Checking the price of new Karoo , I am happy with my 40% discounted Karoo 2 I got few months ago.
@Operations700
4 ай бұрын
Not only is the new Sram Red set great, Simon is also perfect as always and looks smart.
@rnedisc
4 ай бұрын
I like all these world tour wins statistics but it's not really fair when you consider it's mostly thanks to jumbo-visma. For instance in the final giro time trail, when SRAM drops a chain and Primoz manages to take the win with an adrenaline and rage fueled sprint to the top of the mountain.
@simonrichardson5259
4 ай бұрын
Half of them were Visma, but bear in mind that SRAM haters a few years ago said it was impossible to win on Red, regardless of the team. Sounds pretty stupid now doesn’t it?
@buttercreamsuspension5676
4 ай бұрын
Nice video, but did you guys forgot your ND filter and you had to film moving shot at f/22 and we can spot all your dust on your lens or sensor =p
@Chris._P._Bacon
4 ай бұрын
oh look! Shimano's Gravel shifters........nice!!
@ichallengemydog
4 ай бұрын
LOVE the videography!
@sgtted7580
4 ай бұрын
I like looking at al these new things group sets, bikes etc, because I know I will never have any of them.
@Dudadius
4 ай бұрын
Where was this shot? Scotland? Amazing.
@gcn
4 ай бұрын
It's amazing isn't it! Brecon Beacons area!
@user-kx1lz8xz1m
4 ай бұрын
This is the longest commercial ever.
@johnalves2765
4 ай бұрын
Finally some proper chainring (56/43) 👍
@chrisridesbicycles
4 ай бұрын
I almost expected the ripples on the hoods sold als „more aero“
@gcn
4 ай бұрын
Not this time 🤣
@zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589
4 ай бұрын
0:30 Si cross-chaining FTW
@gcn
4 ай бұрын
You can lead a horse to water 👀
@thecarnivorept
4 ай бұрын
Hopefully an XPLR version in future?
@dalerider666
4 ай бұрын
I thought it was. Llangynidr moors in my neck of the woods.
@krishnansrinivasan830
4 ай бұрын
Awesome & Thanks :)
@lbx5359
4 ай бұрын
Wow those silver calipers are absolutely gorgeous. I already have Sram because I prefer the braking feel over Shimano, it's hard to believe these would be even better. I think I'm in love... Sadly they don't make an XPLR version - are the shift levers compatible with the lower tier XPLR derailleurs? If they are, I'm going to need a chat with my bank.
@gcn
4 ай бұрын
Hahahah it's pretty special isn't it! Head over to the SRAM site for more details on compatibility 💻
@JohnIn2SonAZ
4 ай бұрын
Nice. Note to camera dude. Clean your Sensor/Lens. ;-)
@Brandles5
4 ай бұрын
You intend those puns Si! Real men aren’t afraid to intend their puns 😆
@CerveloS5rider
4 ай бұрын
It’s not £3000 for complete groupset that’s without chainset/cassette/chain.
@georgemorton7141
4 ай бұрын
It’s good that they have redesigned the callipers. Because the rival ones certainly are garbage.
@rrvolk
4 ай бұрын
I’d get it today if I had money lol
@bvergara
4 ай бұрын
Why aren't you running Elite wheels (your sponsor) in this video?
@einundsiebenziger5488
4 ай бұрын
Because this bike needs to be all-Sram, as this video is a Sram commercial.
@kubiczekpetr
4 ай бұрын
Hi, exists sram red cranks - wide type (chainline 47.5 and Q factor 150)?
@ztzexplorer
4 ай бұрын
Great review! The shifters are ugly. It's nice that you can still pair previous generation rim-version shifters with this system, if I understand correctly.
@gcn
4 ай бұрын
Welcome to cycling 🤣
@MrSethsamson
4 ай бұрын
Is that chain length correct? The rear mech is super extended in his favorite big big gear and the b link looks off in the small small
@virtualZ161
4 ай бұрын
Anyone know where I could get the Canyon logo decals shown on this ultimate?
@JonathanHair
4 ай бұрын
My Garmin edge 530 gives me warnings of a low battery. What's special here? It's lame to force a computer to be bundled with a new bike.
@JonCannings
4 ай бұрын
It can be an option as a complete package 👍 You could easily swap it out, the bike will still run, it's the legs that do the talking 👍
@JonathanHair
4 ай бұрын
@@JonCannings it's forcing me to buy things I don't want. How is that good for the customer? It's the same issue of not allowing people to spec handlebars or crank length... While forcing the bike to come with $400 integrated bars. Lame. Let us choose the things we want to buy.
@JonathanHair
4 ай бұрын
@@JonCannings SRAM has a track record of anticompetitive practices and forcing us to buy things we don't want. For example, SRAM bought power tap just to kill all the products, then they bundle power meters with the groupset and bike. Now you buy a bike and get what they gave you. That's ok sometimes, but I want to spec my own things and that is getting harder and more expensive. The included computer is a way for them to brute force market share.
@JonCannings
4 ай бұрын
@@JonathanHair I could say the same for most things in life regarding adding extras I don't necessarily want, but they are a feature and part of the package. I guess I just live with it 👍
@JonathanHair
4 ай бұрын
@@JonCannings but I can complain, right? :)
@daytonack2998
4 ай бұрын
INSANE PRICES! just checked the prices of models (from Canyon, Cannondale, Specialized, etc...) that mount the new SRAM Red groupset.. prices are a joke: they are all around 15k!!! wtf
@vozzen
4 ай бұрын
How many are looking to replace their front derailleur with this one?
@levbobrov1398
4 ай бұрын
That was my first thought when I saw the video: does front derailleur work (for real this time) and can I replace my red/force FD with this one. Si did say in the video that the cage is narrower, which may help with crank rubbing during shifting, but... remains to be seen.
@fpmulich1
4 ай бұрын
More force can be applied to pushing a hydraulic cylinder than pulling just because of the increased surface area of the piston chamber. Great engineering!
@jameslee-pevenhull5087
4 ай бұрын
When a bike has a crank set that measures revs and torque, ( or a Powertap Hub and speed sensor ) it's not a great leap to auto gear shifting. The Gear ECU can be no larger than an 'old style' bike computer speedometer. The two numbers the ECU needs to know from the rider is 'Preferred cadence' and 'Rideaway from standstill gear'. For hills, the latter can be adjusted with a handlebar click switch. I say this because a system like this was built in 1998 at a motorcar research centre in the British Midlands. It worked fine.
@rickcski8082
4 ай бұрын
I've never ridden SRAM. I've ridden Shimano, Huret, Simplex and Suntour.
@gcn
4 ай бұрын
Now you have a reason to give SRAM a try 😉
@adadinthelifeofacyclist
4 ай бұрын
You have no reason to try SRAM until you've tried Campagnolo 😂
@KeithFlint350
4 ай бұрын
I want it more than the things that I need
@stefdejong527
4 ай бұрын
Did sram change to a different kind of hydraulic oil? Or do they still use the same oil?
@gcn
4 ай бұрын
hi, it is the same oil. thanks
@hayabusa27
4 ай бұрын
And more dropped front chains!
@BOONERBOYO
4 ай бұрын
Just started watching, I predict this groupset will be affordable.
@ilgour
4 ай бұрын
It doesnt have to be
@klx-y
4 ай бұрын
I don't like the the levers Shimano is far ahead on this regard
@colonelclaw
4 ай бұрын
Note to camera man: The sensor needs cleaning urgently!
@gcn
4 ай бұрын
And still... that groupset just looks 🔥
@louis_sharp
4 ай бұрын
I kept wiping my screen 😂
@gcn
4 ай бұрын
@@louis_sharp You better believe this groupset is real 😉
@lolipuni1
4 ай бұрын
bot?🤔
@louis_sharp
4 ай бұрын
@@lolipuni1 Sram Red AXS may be smart, but I don't think it's commenting on KZitem quite yet.
@alvaroodeh4794
4 ай бұрын
3k is not the complete groupset, it is designed to but chainset and cassette separately which Is another 1500£
@willardSpirit
4 ай бұрын
There's no color red on the Red AXS 🙅♂️🔴
@thepatternforms859
4 ай бұрын
Rather have Shimano Ultegra
@batporio
4 ай бұрын
More excitedly GCN finally enters the 21st century uploading 4k videos.
@jimhansen5395
4 ай бұрын
Now that we have this out of the way, can we get on with the 13 speed fully wireless Shimano GRX already? I have a bike waiting impatiently for this!
@Skupik1
4 ай бұрын
I wonder if SRAM knows what their company name actually means in Polish. 💩
@lloydstuart7862
4 ай бұрын
😂
@julianchmelina428
4 ай бұрын
Zipps instead of elite wheels... Your poor sponsor 😂
@HC-kn2sq
4 ай бұрын
I am just glad too see GCN upload 4k content
@gcn
4 ай бұрын
makes it look even better doesn't it?!
@leedorney
4 ай бұрын
What have the music playing whilst Simon is talking, isn't what he's saying important...or just a pile of 💩 ? can't the music be turned, drives me fkg crazy! theirs not one bit of Simon talking WITHOUT MUSIC
@cdcdcd6777
4 ай бұрын
I hate the BS GCN does with pricing. Cut the crap already. RoadCC has done much better job at telling the price and what EXTRA things you need to get. Slackin GCN. SLACKIN!
@Andy_ATB
4 ай бұрын
When is the cycling community going to say 'enough' to these ridiculous prices? Madness......
@michaelcooke5050
4 ай бұрын
why the constant back music ??????, can't you just talk !
@jim9685769
4 ай бұрын
They are sponsored by Epidemic Sound. Thus the overbearing music in all their videos.
@petewatts30
4 ай бұрын
Who buys this? Maybe if you already have the latest Lambo, Ducati, yacht, mansion. Why not buy a 15k bicycle.
@dannygitonga
4 ай бұрын
WTH do they mean by the cage shape being narrower because the grpset is disc only?? Really😒
@andreroodt4647
4 ай бұрын
My 9-year-old rim brake Etap groupset is still 500g lighter, so referring to weight savings as a selling point is useless. Where I think Sram is winning is that the groupsets are backward compatible. I can upgrade to Disc, and all I need to buy is the new shifters/callipers, which will still work with my existing 11-speed setup. Having said that, the cost of Levers, callipers and rotors is more than what I paid for the etap upgrade kit which included levers and both derailleurs.
@Realciderreviews
4 ай бұрын
Who is buying a new very high end bike and doesn’t already own a bike computer?
@JimKJeffries
4 ай бұрын
Come on now, at least stage the bike so your own people wouldn't disqualify you from super nice.
@nehaalkathuria
4 ай бұрын
I think they will sell more units of the Hoods + Brake calipers, I will be on the look out for a good price later down the line!
@gcn
4 ай бұрын
You seem to be sold on the idea!
@beeldpuntXVI
4 ай бұрын
Bye self maintaining y bike
@kazaroth
4 ай бұрын
Agree, I just with they weren’t chromed. Really doesn’t match my bike 😂
@Mike_Stanford
4 ай бұрын
that's the comments I've been seeing.....they say the internals are pretty similar? lighter and more cuts but similar shape...people love the ergo and look of the hoods ...they do look way less chunky lol compared to my force
@rirdlaer3560
4 ай бұрын
The price told is not even near correct. A full groupset is about 4600 Euro (5000 Euro incl pm), the upgrade groupset is about 3500 Euro (incl Karoo). Compare that to what the first AXS 12 speed upgrade groupset cost (last two years), it's double (yeah, i know you get the Karoo to now).
@StopTheRot
4 ай бұрын
Still 600g heavier than 2010 SRAM Red (for the true weight weenies!).
@chillipepper83
4 ай бұрын
Correction: “The lightest DISC electronic groupset ever” Shimano Di2 DA Rim is still king 👑 folkes, direct mount calipers will also never squeal like a 🐷 😂 This SRAM groupset looks pretty though, nice changes.
@pipikikinos
4 ай бұрын
Bla bla bla bla bla bla......Dot 5.1......bla bla bla bla bliach
@brledford5
4 ай бұрын
maybe "it doesn't stop there" isn't the best endorsement of a new set of brakes.
@JonCannings
4 ай бұрын
😂, maybe, maybe not
@DanTuber
4 ай бұрын
Nice to see they kept the price sky high.
@LaurentiusTriarius
4 ай бұрын
The spirit of Sachs is still well & alive 😂 25 yrs later 💸
@ralphcole674
4 ай бұрын
It's top of the line. Price it like Sora?
@DanTuber
4 ай бұрын
@@ralphcole674 No, just don't price it 20x what it actually costs to make.
@mlee6050
4 ай бұрын
Why not price £2k where like £500 more than SRAM red axs on release
@jesseladd6864
4 ай бұрын
Same price of the first version with bunch of added benefits
@galenkehler
4 ай бұрын
Congratulations to Sram for catching up with the five year old TRP Hylex brake levers!
@sandydennylives1392
4 ай бұрын
I'll stick to me Campy Chorus, the pioneers in carbon cranks and pretty ness
@gcn
4 ай бұрын
are you sure they can't tempt you?
@sandydennylives1392
4 ай бұрын
@@gcn 1000%. I ain't no tour de francer. Campagnisto 4evar. Well, road bikes at least; got a plastic rear derailleur on my Brompton which defines the word un gorgeous.
@wjeurs
4 ай бұрын
Havent seen that paintjob on the canyon before. Combined with the way its decked out, wheels, groupset, saddle.... Makes me drool
@JonCannings
4 ай бұрын
It's a beauty isn't it
@gcn
4 ай бұрын
Was a bit of a dream shoot if we're honest 🔥
@R4baDader
4 ай бұрын
Who the fuck is putting sram red on an e bike
@danielakerman8241
4 ай бұрын
56 : 10.... it's just insane to think of someone pushing that gear. Also, 136 grams of weight savings is equivalent to about 5 ounces of water -- or a couple of swigs from a water bottle. Just to keep it in perspective...
@gcn
4 ай бұрын
For the top level pros this will make a BIG difference 💨
@danielakerman8241
4 ай бұрын
@@gcn Yep. For them. For the rest of us? 🤔
@barryw9473
4 ай бұрын
For sure. I have been able to drop 4.5 kilos over two months to get my weight down to 70.5 kg.
@douglasbooth6836
4 ай бұрын
They def only use 56/10 downhill. Because at 100rpm you would be doing 44 mph which none of them do on the flat apart from sprinting in the on occasion.
@douglasbooth6836
4 ай бұрын
@@gcntakes a new madone to 7.1kg in a 56 so it’s relevant to anyone.
@jimhansen5395
4 ай бұрын
The three thousand dollars/pounds/euros price doesn't include the crankset. The Quarq PM crank is anothe $1200, or $700 for the acoustic version. So were looking at $3700 or $4200 for a groupset. And we wonder why bikes cost $10,000
@songofyesterday
4 ай бұрын
It sounds so communist 😂. Red Axis
@andreas12325
4 сағат бұрын
Don't buy SRAM!!! After 5 years you will no longer receive replacement parts. Today I regret buying SRAM Red.
@durianriders
4 ай бұрын
Levers feel better in the hand for sure. Still running 2008 sram red here. Still the lighest groupset ever.
@jonathanjc1131
4 ай бұрын
SRAM still sucks!
@Lone_wolf_31
4 ай бұрын
I’ll give you the best advice : don’t spend too much money on upgrades, there’s only marginal difference. Spend money on the trips, journeys, vacations and the experience that makes you love your life. I spent a lot of money on these so called upgrades and they’re just not worth even a bit ! Don’t buy low end or the flagship model. Just get a midrange version and you’ll be happy ! All these fancy SRAM RED eShift and all are not required. In fact, the satisfaction the old school steel frame road bike offers, none of these carbon bikes will offer
@czts4778
4 ай бұрын
True but if you have money to spend, upgrades makes you feel faster🤣
@Lone_wolf_31
4 ай бұрын
@@czts4778 save that money ! These upgrades won’t matter at all ! This is my Personal experience. My shimano deore got f’ked up and couldn’t handle the stress.
@mcfly3510
4 ай бұрын
I got rid of my Giant Propel with the previous sram Red. Wasn't happy with the levers and the noticable delay in shifting compared to shimano. The Quark powermeter though was top.
@gcn
4 ай бұрын
What do you make of the new changes? Enough to bring you back onto Red? ⚙
@davidperkins3621
4 ай бұрын
When the oversize jockey wheel almost hits the front chainring it looks ugly to say the least.
@Maxpower88888
4 ай бұрын
Ridiculous
@Maxwaehrens
4 ай бұрын
9:04 As a matter of fact, this data is available to anyone with a Shimano Di2 groupset which is synced to your bike compute! I have Ultegra Di2 from 2019 with a wireless unit synced to my Garmin Edge and I can view the same shifting telemetry
@ryoukokonpaku1575
4 ай бұрын
The battery notifications are the same as well. On my Garmin I get notifications on all my sensors if one needs battery replacement or recharging (which includes Di2). It also helps Di2's much larger battery means it's a long time before I need to charge it anyways. Didn't know Sram didn't have that feature yet for a while, along with the extra shifter buttons as well.
@ronikane7574
4 ай бұрын
One thing Sram is good at is spending millions on advertising, for that reason is so expensive🥇🥇🏆🏆
@Zylas_DJ
2 күн бұрын
Would you still recommend the old Sram Red D1 over the new Sram force?
@chrishophoto
4 ай бұрын
I’m a SRAM hater, but have to admit they they’re making some smart moves here.
@gcn
4 ай бұрын
They must be doing something right then 🙌
@jesseladd6864
4 ай бұрын
The cracking on the chain plate @ 11:27 is just hilarious 🫣
@skiskateride
3 ай бұрын
Chain plate 383 @11:25 does show some scratches. Not sure if those are cracks. It would be unfortunate if the E1 chains crack as easily as other SRAM chains.
@4accurate
22 күн бұрын
So I would ask you guys one question. Will the FSA PowerBox SRAM Version Chainrings work with this groupset?:)
@veganpotterthevegan
4 ай бұрын
Finally, a hydraulic hood shape I'd be happy with. Unfortunately, it's still DOT fluid
@gcn
4 ай бұрын
Would you still give it a try?
@veganpotterthevegan
4 ай бұрын
@@gcn I'll definitely try it, I won't buy another DOT fluid brake though.
@feedbackzaloop
4 ай бұрын
Sram are switching to oil in MTB. Maybe next gen road? Untill then, GRX has the closest shape so far.
@Hydun
4 ай бұрын
@@feedbackzalooponly on the maven for now we don't have confirmation on the LEVEL and other brakes
@feedbackzaloop
4 ай бұрын
@@Hydun db8 too and for quite a while already. Code and Level, yes, still DOT. But for how long though?
@Strange_Brew
4 ай бұрын
And I love my SRAM Axs ! Should have got it when it came out. Totally changed cycling!
@leeaprescott
4 ай бұрын
groupset weight stated doesnt include the bottom bracket. classic cycling industry BS.
@bert_je5260
4 ай бұрын
I really love SRAM's industrial design. But I really don't like the new levers - they look hideous...😂
@robintheorganist
4 ай бұрын
Awesome group set - just wait a few years for it all to trickle down now…. More importantly - where did you film?! Got to get a ride there!
@JonCannings
4 ай бұрын
The climb up there can be savage. Its here maps.app.goo.gl/pC42cAcJ1kFomtH89
@nroose
4 ай бұрын
How come it's more euros than dollars, when euros are worth more than dollars? And Canyon is European... Is it because SRAM is US based?
@MrIsaac-dh3uh
3 ай бұрын
So disappointing. All this hoopla for 153 grams? How about I don't top off my water bottles instead?
@nicolasdomise
4 ай бұрын
Wish you had talked more about the bike and if canyon is selling that model (new SRAM RED included)?
@Strange_Brew
4 ай бұрын
The levers are also more aero not protruding up so much. Yes it does make a difference. That’s how I run my levers.
@tosheshdaulta8899
4 ай бұрын
I think that’s the last thing to take away from MTB, brake levers.
@DaanHoogland
4 ай бұрын
Of course, 3000 $ or £, but more €, guess I'll shop in China.
@averagesimguy598
4 ай бұрын
If this is such a game changer, please do a comparison vs dura ace 12 speed and tell me what the positives are
@cdalesupersix
4 ай бұрын
Listen to that marketing. All the buzz words and phrases. Still has a chain and sprockets and a chain and derailleurs. Nothing very radical apart from the marketing team fluff. You still need legs and saddle time to ride and more to ride faster. So ...... meh
@Sarabanjina
4 ай бұрын
When riding it sounds like he is being attacked by an Imperial TIE fighter jet from Star Wars 🤭
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