Just FYI. Jeans ended up disbanding, because the manager of the group was Also de father of one of the girls and he was also the owner of the group's name, and treated them poorly. Some of the girls, now grown women, Made a comeback and changed the name of the group to just JNS. You can find lots of recent live material in KZitem
@ThemedNumber02
4 ай бұрын
oh thats an interesting tidbit!
@GenZigmaYT
4 ай бұрын
Newjeans fate can also be parallel to jeans. May be they will disband & debute again with the name 'NW JNS' in another company. I'm not joking this can happen. edit: may be that's the plan of mhj.
@AnjuKumari-wj8jo
4 ай бұрын
@@GenZigmaYTthey already use this short form of their name, another inspiration maybe
@JH-bb8in
4 ай бұрын
@@GenZigmaYT Except mhj will be in jail and owe Hybe 50m USD lol
@Leekn0wb3rry
2 ай бұрын
@@JH-bb8in mhj should just go to jail and pay the money if she doesn't want any problems. Jeans should just let Newjeans copy them like jeans already disbanded they should let them copy if they are fine w it
@alg94
4 ай бұрын
for choreography, as a former dancer and choreographer, if you had to pay to use a movement it will ruin the industry. sure we can identify a certain move as a person's move (such as fosse technique) but if its not a full section or piece we can't copyright dance moves.
@purplenutria1351
4 ай бұрын
yes but thats not the same as they want to do, you can floss? sure, you can make whole dangerous ahnging tempo and actitude and present that as yours? hell no. they not going to copyright moves but a time of choreos whit other things.
@softeuph3974
4 ай бұрын
Literally it doesn’t make any sense. girl first of all of newjeans choreography are literally from black people. Try again. They are known for using TikTok dance moves in their choreos.😂NWJNS did not invent the stiff hip.😂
@crs_stl
4 ай бұрын
Goo Hara’s death needs to be investigated.
@melomeline
4 ай бұрын
no it does fr
@alexisienna
4 ай бұрын
i don't believe there's anything to be investigated but i do think her ex boyfriend should be charged for her death 'cause her mental state deteriorated greatly from his abuse, threaths and tarnishing of her reputation with the general public. his sentence for the violence he inflicted was too lenient (of course, the judicial system is fucked specially in korea) and he deserves real consequences for his actions and how those affected hara
@JONJon-COD
4 ай бұрын
@@alexisiennahow are you blaming the ex that stuff happens . People gotta lay off how other people feel. People won’t get over it if they can’t let it go because they are more worried about how they would be looked at . You don’t know what kind of relationship she had . You wouldn’t think Goo Hara didn’t do anything wrong we don’t know. Why would the ex expose himself by exposing her knowing that part of Korean culture. Wouldn’t you think Goo Hara was the one that got evidence of the Burning Sun scandal that involved business executives famous people and politicians.
@archive6877
4 ай бұрын
@@JONJon-CODbecause her ex ruined her life. He abused her verbally, mentally, and sexually. Called the cops on her for defending herself and blackmailed her by threatening to release sexual videos of her. He deserves to rot in jail.
@niraxlevi9930
4 ай бұрын
@JONJon-COD nah he killed her because he recorded her and threatened her ,this ain't about being a bad boyfriend he did an evil thing
@lucassantiago697
4 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: Dulce Maria from Jeans went on to join another group called RBD and last year they had a reunion tour that became the best grossing tour in the US by a vocal group surpassing names like One Direction, 5th Harmony, Destiny's Child.
@Lixx143V
4 ай бұрын
Omgggg dulce Maria was in that 😱😱
@DurrtyGato
4 ай бұрын
@moonlightespt1946She was in Jeans before leaving the group for the novela 'Clase 406'. Look up Jeans music videos 'Entre Azul and 'Buenas Noches'. Dulce Maria in those.
@maggie-of8ch
4 ай бұрын
@moonlightespt1946 idk about other songs, but she's in corazón confidente
@unkofi445
4 ай бұрын
@moonlightespt1946 She was a member in one of the rotation. Maybe from 2000 to 2002 I think.
@Brenda-ie3cx
4 ай бұрын
A mamãe faz tudo ❤
@Adi-qz3vd
4 ай бұрын
When it comes to their fav. groups everyones openion start to change from plagiarism to inspiration and bulling to defending them by making new theories 😂 kpop never beat the hypocrisy allegation 😒
@RaveAndDance
4 ай бұрын
It's sad that we constantly appreciate Idols or people in general only after they are no longer with us. It reminds me of an Anne Frank quote: "Dead people receive more flowers than the living ones because regret is stronger than gratitude."
@HailToTheMeep
4 ай бұрын
🤯😭
@nathanielAdam5824
4 ай бұрын
That hit hard..... Ouch 🤕😢☹️
@saturn6563
4 ай бұрын
It’s a nice quote, but Anne Frank never actually said that in her diary, not sure how it came to light
@CeciJosa
4 ай бұрын
I watched the Burning Sun documentary and was most impressed with some of the new details. I have read about Burning Sun before but not Hara's involvement. She was very brave and the world is poorer for her loss. One thing that really bothered me was that employees of clubs in Gangnam say that nothing has changed and this is still going on. This culture is just so toxic! it is no wonder that young women are hesitant to marry and start families. A world that does not value young women is doomed.
@TomsMusicCorner
4 ай бұрын
because police and politics turned a blind eye on this
@Hatelover89
4 ай бұрын
I’m NJ stan and I do think mhj did something similar to jeans. Be it copy or whatever it looks so similar. I think by now she and her team especially the choreographer should stop talking about coping. At this point I’m so disappointed with mhj and her team for putting accusations on other groups. They should focus more on themselves than other groups.
@btsnu
4 ай бұрын
It is not about the similarity between the new jeans and jeans . A lot of kpop are inspired by pop and j pop .. but here it is significant because MHJ herself accussed illit of copying her "original concept'. Since then MHJ defenders started harassing Illit , lessarafirm and other groups even for mere things like hanbok , long hair , lightstick etc🙂🙂🙂. MHJ tasting a bit of her own medicine.
@ishay5414
4 ай бұрын
Dumb people. Raising a hands in a choreography is not plagiarism. The old group straightly just raised their arms while NJ swayed before raising their hand. They get inspiration from that group thats for sure but didn’t literally straight copy it. ILLIT on the other hand really copy everything from nj. In the artist world there is a thing called peg where you can get inspiration and make it your own but twerking some details or using different medium. But illit is thick face even copy like 5sec or 12sec dance step from nj and exactly similar and didnt even make a little difference
@purplenutria1351
4 ай бұрын
this happen when you dont read reliable sources, mhj dont call her concept original she says is y2k and inspired in 2000's music from the start, no one harras lesserafin that fandom go schizo for nothing just like the bts fandom. illit is other history, mhj dont say they copy the videos, she said they copy all the formula in less than 2 years because hybe want to replicate newjeans, and after seing knets, its true. well the most important place in this whole conversation pick a side already and thats not changing
@Avi_ZeeIn
4 ай бұрын
I suggest you read the story as whole before commenting
@AskMe-fl2sm
4 ай бұрын
@@purplenutria1351so copying successs is now called plagiarism? Didn’t nwjs also use same promo success strategy as bts? She literally called illit plagiarised group.
@Pj-mj7wi
4 ай бұрын
it's not about the copying only that people hate leserafim and illit it's about them being tone deaf.
@carolinesch.
4 ай бұрын
Literally why should a single person leaving mean the whole groups doesnt have a way forward? Like I get mhj is involved in a lot but if she is the only person resposible for the sucess of nj, isnt that insulting to the members talents and all the group and staffs work? I dont get it
@iyerezm
4 ай бұрын
Haha yes...just take a look at MVs of SM groups people claim she did...like red velvet early work...nothing look like newjeans quality , I think NJs members face specially danielle stand out also she has a better team in hybe/ador , bighit always had over the top creative designers...ex: nap of the star MV ...also she doesnt contribute to music , is she is gigi? No idea , but each member has credit under every song...also MHJ manipulate girls into thinking if she gone their career over
@hanniefrei
4 ай бұрын
Don't have issues with inspiration but hypocrisy is the problem. How dare Mhj call out other groups when it wasn't even her original idea.
@dunemae
4 ай бұрын
She never claimed she owned the Y2K concept
@mariri725
4 ай бұрын
@@dunemae then why is she accusing other groups of copying 😂 she really dug her grave with that one
@K-Fash10n
4 ай бұрын
Exactly . People that live in houses made out of glass should not be throwing rocks at others . It’s just super hypocritical 💯
@Awkwardhhh
4 ай бұрын
@@mariri725 she didn’t mean that grps copied COPIED her but were way too similar, and in fact MHJ was not the one who complained but it was the parents of NJ. MHJ main objectives were how NJ is not treated well as compared to other groups and infact you can clearly see that by how Hybe is planning on 1.5 year of hiatus for them. Please y’all haven’t even watched the conference, watch that first and then comment bc that’s embarrassing.
@simonfamily9592
4 ай бұрын
love ur pfp
@wispymango
4 ай бұрын
I think everyone needs to know the context of the choreography copyright guidelines. Its been in the works before the Ador/HYBE feud. Lia Kim is the president of Korea choreography copyright associations and has been talking about choreographers protection since 2017. It just seems like media is using this whole situation as a way to boost or expedite the guidelines to be ready by the end of this year.
@xdrowssap4456
4 ай бұрын
thanks for the info!
@wildlotus4339
4 ай бұрын
Harshly pointing other groups copying her design yet she herself copying other. Hmmm. The level of hypocrazy and narcism.
@unkofi445
4 ай бұрын
I don't think it's weird that they could actually copy a Mexican group. It just adds to the weird ETA references. I think Min Hee Jin is clearly aware of Hispanic culture. And she probably thought that no one would care or notice because Hispanics are so overlooked.
@h33ki
4 ай бұрын
here y’all go again with the ETA conspiracy. mind you the ETA terrorist group is from Spain! so not Hispanic culture …. literally no correlation to the Mexican girl group.
@AskMe-fl2sm
4 ай бұрын
No one saying taking inspiration is a problem but accusing other groups of plagiarism when it’s not ur work is hypocrisy
@Doby-xc1le
4 ай бұрын
@@AskMe-fl2sm i mean theres a difference between plagiarizing from a group that debuted almost 30 years ago and plagiarizing a group that literally JUST debuted not even 2 years ago...
@AskMe-fl2sm
4 ай бұрын
@@Doby-xc1le how is it a plagiarism when illit did is following the trend? So other groups can’t use y3k & retro now just bcz they from same label ( not even same company)? So other companies stop using youth & rero concept & ask permission from heejin now?
@feitantherapist9271
4 ай бұрын
@@Doby-xc1le they don't even credit lol but accusing other for wearing hanbok atleast don't try to make yourself look that you are original who created all the concept and aesthetic
@K-Fash10n
4 ай бұрын
omg yes, ive been thinking about that ,Mexican group which I grew up with called jeans, a 4 girl group, they have tons of good songs like : me pogo mis jeans or I wear my jeans . the Mexican group rebranded to JNS and they are still touring Mexico with their best hits.
@K-Fash10n
4 ай бұрын
@moonlightespt1946I had to go back and watch Pepe and Omg just had the biggest flash back to those days … can’t believe That still freaking remember not only the song but also the damn choreo like Omg thanks for reminding me of that song .. just went back to my childhood lol core memories man .. those were the days ! Pepe 💃🏻 now I’m gonna go back and look for la onda vaselina and I’ll come back and tell you how it went lol jajaja
@K-Fash10n
4 ай бұрын
@moonlightespt1946 that’s awesome and super sweet 💖💖💖, your mom has great music taste I can tell already and I’m sure you do too lol !!! Such good rolas 🥰🥰🥰💃🏻💃🏻💃🏻
@sehbasareen6669
4 ай бұрын
The irony of mhj claiming illit copied her own original ideas but then ending up being exposed for copying others 😂 there goes her defense now let's wait for the court decision
@jhingsoy5876
4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂MHJ got what she deserves when she told the public "MY ORIGINAL CONCEPT".🤣🤣🤣🤣 while others copied her drama - super ego - reality was smacked at her face.🤣🤣🤣🤣
@StormbreakerShorts
4 ай бұрын
Wow! Min hee jin's concepts are so new bcs she put 'new' infront of 'jeans' 😂
@high26ful
4 ай бұрын
😅
@veewooshi9882
4 ай бұрын
MHJ the queen of hypocrisy. No one would have been offended if she had taken inspiration from Jeans but after she made a whole hoopla about being an original and EVERYBODY is copying her, this is just so damn funny!!! Oh how the tables have turned… 😂😂😂 I love my popcorn salty but now there’s chilis in it too 😂😂
@yhn-jz9xs
4 ай бұрын
I’m Mexican, and In Mexico the members of the band know about NewJeans and I think they’ve said that it’s okay if they take inspiration but they’re literally plagiarizing
@btsnu
4 ай бұрын
.Yeah if I am not wrong there was some article about it right .. few months back
@MissyxAkunai
4 ай бұрын
@@btsnu Articles started around Jan 2023, but it didn't really reach to SK / was suppressed
@srisumarni2147
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, THAT'S Problem, , , JEANS when OKAY NJ USED that, , , But MJH NOT OKAY when ILLIT used similar or NOT SAME concept with NEW JEANS, BUT INSTEAD She said ILLIT COPIED NEW JEANS
@goldyd144
4 ай бұрын
It's not just inappropriate towards NingNing; it's racist! All of those "mispronounced" versions of her name are rooted in the racist stereotype of Chinese names being silly and hard to pronounce by non-Chinese people, and also making fun of Chinese accents. No surprise that this happened on Insta, considering racist, derogatory, and bullying comments on there are common. It's just super disgusting behavior. Idols/companies really need to start blocking people, or turning off their comments more. 😤
@faeriegraver
4 ай бұрын
Exactly 💯
@yari139
4 ай бұрын
Yo I’ve BEEN saying NJ remind me sooooo much of Las Jeans!!! Like just the name “New Jeans” was kinda weird to me and the attire was kinda similar, but I thought at the beginning it was kind of a new take of Las Jeans since in Mexico they used to “reboot” pop groups and slightly change the names. Like, Menudo became MDO, Onda Vaselina = OV7 and so on. So like I really thought for a while that it might’ve been some sort of collab between the countries or MHJ was trying to do some sort of homage to Mexican pop because of the huge kpop fan base or something since both industries are so similar to each other, ut I was obviously wrong.
@monkiesbanana321
4 ай бұрын
Yeah the ex Jeans members joined the group JNS now, apparently
@yari139
4 ай бұрын
@@monkiesbanana321 no, it just rebranded to JNS. It’s the same group with some of the previous members. And I say some because that group went through like 15 different girls during its lifetime. I think only one of them now is an OG member. But this is what I mean, like they do this all the time. They rebrand groups as a way to create a differentiation between generations or a change in concept or just to appeal to a new market, like MDO did.
@goldyd144
4 ай бұрын
I feel like copyrighting choreography is difficult. Of course, if whole sections or whole choreographies are stolen/ripped, people deserve their credit. It's just that there are also only so many ways a body can move, and too many Kpop groups have very similar choreography already. If it's about credit, finding the "source" for certain moves is going to be a struggle. It's only emboldened by the Jeans/NewJeans and Speed comparisons.
@najla9031
4 ай бұрын
I agree with you , like there is tons of moves that used by so many .. honestly I don't see it as a big deal unless it's a big dance part or something like that..
@Yasnaya_Luna
4 ай бұрын
How can you make different choreography for hundreds song that released every year😭. Choreography also as a means to interpretation of song or "language", are you going to be banned for making reaching to the sky Choreography that literally been used to many I mean MANY song. Because it's an expression to how desperate they are in the song or longing someone who they love, the expert should know it as they not original either. Popping dance, modern dance, etc is not korean but more from west. Completely copying from start to finish is not okay, but part of it? I mean did you even sure that you're the inventor of this so called move??
@manusiabumi257
4 ай бұрын
I agree with you, like the case of Vata and Ateez.. they're not being credited by Vata and later on Vata apologize, because the creator was still in the industry, but for NJ, I think it's difficult, because the "source", it's not Korean, it's different time period and i don't think it's possible to find the "creator" of the dance move that easily...
@veewooshi9882
4 ай бұрын
Not that complicated. There’s also a limited amount of words. And a limited amount of notes. Yet, used in the same succession without giving credit is stealing. It’s the same with dancing. Of course one move shouldn’t belong to just one person (except maybe the moon walk) but using the same movements in the same succession is theft.
@goldyd144
4 ай бұрын
@@veewooshi9882 This is exactly what I'm saying though???
@Let_your_nur_shine
4 ай бұрын
I feel the drama will not end till they both destroy each other, anyway both hybe and min seem shady to me.
@danilecanda125
4 ай бұрын
At this point they doom themselves. Don't see a big possibility that any of the involved survive
@nby149
4 ай бұрын
I don’t know if it can happen, but I really hope MHJ and NJs can leave HYBE at the end, I think it will be the best case for everybody…
@K-Fash10n
4 ай бұрын
Girlie here just summoned a whole generation by mentioning the Mexican group jeans ( their comment section be popping RN too. Gracias Minheejin ( and obv you too Angelina we stan you for this queen 👸 ) for bringing the spotlight to such beautiful group like the Mexican group jeans) 👖. Donde están las chicas y chicos que crecieron con las OG Jeans ? Where are my people that grew up with the OG jeans at?? 🙌🙌🙌🙌
@Youyouhssssjjjnnhbb-xj7yl
4 ай бұрын
Now that Newjeans career is over, all K-pop girl groups wiich had been on hiatus are making a comeback to take its place as number 1 girl group. Exciting
@MariyaWilliam-qw2md
4 ай бұрын
New Jeans becoming Recycled Jeans😂😂
@JLeouzio
4 ай бұрын
It's giving : My whole life was a lie 😂
@SabribriYT
4 ай бұрын
LMFAO
@aplus1244
4 ай бұрын
Hahahahhh😂
@StormbreakerShorts
4 ай бұрын
And the thing that mhj called her gg is so new bcs she put 'new' infront of 'jeans' is so hilarious 😅
@serenerhapsody
4 ай бұрын
Then Illit will be Tattered Jeans
@RekhaSharma-hh1sv
4 ай бұрын
kakao talk was presented but she said its her privacy but when she displayed others chats its okay? when others do something similar its plagerism but when she copies its okay? she is a big hypocrite
@Hanni_random
4 ай бұрын
This whole drama will never stop I just want it to stop already
@BasicGemini
4 ай бұрын
I dont, lmfao this shit juicy
@Uhhit67
4 ай бұрын
Right ? 🤣😂where is the popcorn
@phoenixmorphix
4 ай бұрын
Yeah... This won't end well. For *anyone.*
@AE3lytehaus
4 ай бұрын
Everyone twerks😅
@BABYMONS7ER_CHIQUITA
4 ай бұрын
I need me some popcorn but I can’t find none
@HailToTheMeep
4 ай бұрын
Humility is Min Hee Jin’s biggest enemy. Her insecurities is or will be her the undoing of whatever great talent she may have. So sad. No one would care for New Jeans’ similarities with Jeans if Min Hee Jin didn’t go after every kpop group under the sun for “copying” her. “Ethical” should never be in Min Hee Jin’s mouth. Without the word “hypocrite” attached to it. Speaking of Sun, people haven’t learned from The Burning Sun atrocity and his knetz unaligned Goo Hara, and now they are going after kids in kpop groups.
@HailToTheMeep
4 ай бұрын
* how knetz un-alived iPhone sucks
@markigirl2757
4 ай бұрын
@@HailToTheMeepthat’s the problem it seems they care about harmony and everyone apologize and move on then actually fix the problem and hold both parties involved accountable lol
@nicoleloss7987
4 ай бұрын
Yet min called umg japan to buy more albums. They confirmed it.
@sankalpdatal3039
4 ай бұрын
Mhj be like jeans who??iam gonna make them new.BAM!!newjeans.that is exactly how it went on.
@ferniecat
4 ай бұрын
Or maybe that’s why they’re called NEW jeans????
@TL-we9uh
4 ай бұрын
Yeah ppl who worship mhj are soooo funny
@sanazamir8341
4 ай бұрын
I would like to hear what mhj would say after this thing I would also like to hear what excuse bunnies will give after hating on other groups mhj accused of so many groups copying njs she is such a hypocrite honestly she is getting karma njs deserve better and they shouldn't side with mhj
@apolliemk5027
4 ай бұрын
9:32 I personally like the subtitles you add because they are accurate, KZitem doesn’t always get the subtitles right. Also it’s not on all videos and devices subtitles pop up. Just my opinion, BTW love your vids
@soulsearcher7077
4 ай бұрын
yup I wanted to say the same thing!!
@bullbae02
4 ай бұрын
As someone who grew up in the south America in the 90s, this was obvious from the get go.... Also jeans was copied a lot of times before that and non of that of them succeeded. What new jeans had different is MHJ, she makes the concept work a lot and succeeds a lot of times before.
@mariaarias-dd9jt
4 ай бұрын
What is even happening 💀 no group is safe anymore
@solarmoth4628
4 ай бұрын
They probably used them heavily as reference. I think naming them “New Jeans” is pretty telling😅. I mean it could be a coincidence but choreography aside, I can see how elements of Jeans ended up in New Jeans.
@eugenechale3265
4 ай бұрын
Which elements ?
@Doby-xc1le
4 ай бұрын
i doubt it's a coincidence lmao she definitely got ideas from the group. that being said i dont think this invalidates her claims that hybe is trying to cannibalize newjeans with illit. jeans members are in their 40s/50s? they debuted almost 3 decades ago... newjeans are a bunch of teens who debuted less than 2 years ago and are at the height of their career and in a very vulnerable position. newjeans taking inspo fromj jeans doesnt affect jeans negatively - if anything it just made them more popular and known atp. just my 2 cents. but ador needs to credit jeans imo.
@eugenechale3265
4 ай бұрын
@@Doby-xc1le she didn't any ideas from the group . Nothing from that group is about newjeans. All their shit they were doing was already the trend in the 90s and 2000s bro . Go and do your research and stop looking at what is posted on KZitem and twitter
@youssafemonster
4 ай бұрын
@@Doby-xc1le Wate bro is yapping abt
@aiotld
4 ай бұрын
I have a random thought on the NingNing name situation. Maybe the fans were misspelling her name to get her to reply to them. Like I could totally see people doing this to a Western artist and them understanding the joke but I think the problem is that this usually happens when the artist and their fans already have in-jokes like this between each other so then feelings don't get hurt. So they may have not been malicious but they shouldn't do it if it's upsetting to her.
@FirePheniex
4 ай бұрын
lol is South Korea gonna be the only country to have copyrights on dance moves? Bro this whole thing is insane, and there are only so many way the human body can move. Dancing in general is too worldwide and global for it to just be put on restrictions.
@TheRealityofFake
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, and what happens if a k-pop group steals a dance from a foreign group and then copyrights it? Can someone outside of Korea make a claim of copyright infringement?
@FirePheniex
4 ай бұрын
@@TheRealityofFakeoh damn you right 😮
@p0rnany0ne
4 ай бұрын
There are already US choreographers who have a copyright on their dances.
@FirePheniex
4 ай бұрын
@@p0rnany0ne oh I see thank you for educating me
@danilecanda125
4 ай бұрын
In fact, this exists internationally with copyright, which is part of property rights. These establish that any original creation at the time of its creation has copyright. This applies to music, literature, science, and others, and includes choreography. However, it should be noted that the copyright of a choreography only applies to a set of successive steps and movements, not to the entire choreography or just one step. A step is only protected if it is significantly original, like the one with the boy and the backpack. It should also be considered that works are only subject to copyright for a certain period that varies from country to country. The Berne Convention establishes a minimum of 50 years internationally. In Europe, it is 70 years, and in Mexico, which has the longest duration, it is 100 years. These years are counted from the death of the author. This, for example, is what happened to Disney with Mickey Mouse. However, in its case, due to a change in the law in the United States, which previously only protected it for 95 years from the creation of the work, the first version entered the public domain this year. Thus, the character in its original version can be used by the public in the United States only, because copyright is respected according to the laws of each country. In Europe, it will enter the public domain in 2036. Another thing to consider is that copyright is granted to the creator of the choreography, but the artist or performer receives a related right, which means they can publicly use and profit from the choreography. What strikes me is the need to enact this law, when Korea has a copyright law. It has undergone several changes throughout history, but the most current indicates that rights are protected for 50 years after the author's death. Infringement of this law can even be penalized with 3 years in prison and a fine. Additionally, their law is highly criticized for being very strict and inflexible.
@Adobongsinigangnamangga
4 ай бұрын
Creativity and art has always been and will always be a combination of inspirations of something.The issue here was always been MHJ's hypocrisy.
@musicman2846
4 ай бұрын
I don't see how Choreographers can get dance moves copyrighted when most moves if not all are just moves from older dances from the west and around the world. Even moves from way back (Bing Crosby, Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers) have been put into modern day choreo. It is rare to see something original in regards to dance moves. For me, it's how they put all these dance moves together that makes it unique.
@danilecanda125
4 ай бұрын
In fact, the international copyright law, to which Korea is a signatory, states that copyright for a choreography only covers a series of successive steps and movements. It does not apply to the entire choreography or to a single dance step. Each case is evaluated individually to determine if there is an infringement.
@micah459
4 ай бұрын
It probably depends on how the moves are put together. Look at the Napoleon Dynamite dance for example. Each move alone isn't anything special, but when you add them together, it's the Napoleon Dynamite dance.
@Revsoshi
4 ай бұрын
I know bunnies feel stupid as hell right now. Min heejin isnt a creative genius anymore. More of a master manipulator/marketer.
@eugenechale3265
4 ай бұрын
How are they stupid . Why don't you go and search and know the actual concept
@MissyxAkunai
4 ай бұрын
In the case of seventeen, they were both made by the same designer (it was shared on their story, not as a post). They usually make a post about it a few weeks after the cb is released / when promos are done (example drama poster for aespa dropped end of oct / early nov, and they made a post about it last week of nov)
@Rubylolo13212
4 ай бұрын
This year of Kpop is truly “ I bring i bring all the Drama ma ma ma ma”, I think aespa might have predicted the future 😂. Edit: is it true that Idols only get $36 on music shows? I thought that was a meme on social media that I didn’t understand but idk.
@monkiesbanana321
4 ай бұрын
Yes it's true
@cuckoophendula8211
4 ай бұрын
I know that there are many other examples of "rules for thee, not for me" types of hypocrisy, but the one that came up in my mind surrounding the MHJ thing was when now disgraced KZitemr iilluminaughtii shot her career in the foot last year by making a stink saying that Legal Eagle's editor plagiarized her style (which ended up just being generic paper tearing and highlighting effects). Months later, she turned out to be one of the people highlighted in hbomberguy's plagiarism video, and it was shown that her entire career was built upon plagiarizing other people's work the entire time (the amusing part was that this wasn't what ended her career, but rather how her former colleagues and coworkers outed her for being a terrible human being many months before that). Now I'm not trying to directly insinuate much more than this being another example of "I can copy others, but others can't copy me," but it's very interesting how this tends to occur in people who are strongly speculated to have some cluster B personality disorder.
@micah459
4 ай бұрын
People don't understand what actual plagiarism of choreography is. One common move out of a whole dance, isn't plagiarism. It has to be multiple moves added together/back-to-back for it to be considered plagiarism.
@rebeccaavoca9143
4 ай бұрын
ONE OF NJ MUSIC VIDEO WAS A TOTAL COPY CAT FROM A FOREIGN MOVIE SCENES .. MJH KEPT ON BLABBERING ABOUT HER IDEAS / HER CONCEPTS/HER ORIGINALITY OF WORK AT HER PRESS CON WHEN SHE ACCUSED OF OTHER GROUPS PLAGIARIZING NJ, BUT NOTHING ABOUT NJ IS ACTUALLY ORIGINAL ..
@moonlightpaw5868
4 ай бұрын
Not new jeans but recycled jeans.
@Kyujinnieee
4 ай бұрын
Everyone knew that NJ basically is an amalgamation of Y2K concepts from 20 years ago, while you have ILLIT who is an amalgamation of NJ concepts from just 2 months ago. 🙈🙉🙊
@nightishot1014
4 ай бұрын
Ador: “What could we do to make NewJeans trendy? How about we bring back Y2K concepts! It would separate NJ from other kpop trends and make them look more unique!” BeLift: What could we do to make Illit trendy? Hey NJ is very trendy right now, how about we replicate some of the trends they brought back!”
@isabelcristinafernandezmin3306
4 ай бұрын
Same thing, Newjeans is not original, therefore there’s nothing to copy them from.
@nicoleloss7987
4 ай бұрын
Illit concept is dream core magic girls
@useruseruser666
4 ай бұрын
You mean ILLIT also copied from Jeans and Y2K girl groups. They can’t really copy from NJ if they copies from Jeans. They didn’t even change their name. 🤡
@comez1634
4 ай бұрын
More like NJ copied Y2K concepts, and after they did that almost a lot more nugu groups in Kpop not just Illit started copying what NJ did. 👽
@ctrlsoul
4 ай бұрын
Ningning is named so because her family name is "Ning"... and call her otherwise is just straight disrepectful and even could be considered borderline racist..
@zevphe
4 ай бұрын
Everyone saying Easy doesn’t sound like Cliché is lying to themselves and is completely delusional . The songs are so similar it’s mind blowing. I’m disappointed how every single song on their new album is basically the same sound as a popular western song, except this one isn’t as popular. Miss their old music tbh
@bungluna9211
4 ай бұрын
You mention her accusations but don't mention HYBE's rebuttal. Hmmm
@mona.cabocmona303
4 ай бұрын
It's a shame that fans and other listeners are accusing groups plagiarising, when the responsibility of the content is not theirs. The music producer, the art director, the choreographer, the stylist they are responsible for doing things if not legally when it isn't a law to state the copyright, at least according to norms that are used in each sector of artistic activity. People are somehow allowed to make comments about artists, like how they sing or convey the emotion or how they dans, but don't forget they are humans, they can feel bad, have pains and go on stage to perform for their fans. I mean IDOL has a meaning like perfect to admire and devote, but they are not gods to be perfect. MHJ acted at the mess press conference as she was a poor homeless woman who was persecuted by HYBE/BSH. All she said about others copying her "genial creativity", HYBE mistreated her and NJ, was a smoke grenade to distract public attention from what she planted and was exposed by HYBE. The reality came out, and besides the fact that MHJ isn't a poor woman, she earn millions of what currency you want, and she wasn't treated bad by HYBE/BSH, they gave her a company to manage, MHJ tried to steal ADORE from HYBE her co-owner and make them to pay her for that.
@h33ki
4 ай бұрын
there’s a difference between taking inspo from other 90’s & early 2000’s media brining it back to kpop versus a kpop group allegedly plagiarizing another kpop group (who is less than 2 years old & under the same parent company) …. no hate to illit but ppl are scrambling trying to discredit newjeans but if newjeans had never debuted, illit would not have the concept they do now. however, both groups are amazing & the members do not deserve hate
@nicoleloss7987
4 ай бұрын
Illit concept is dream core magic girls Their webtoon is called summer moon
@nicoleloss7987
4 ай бұрын
Illit would still have this concept Because illit is a groupade with another company through a survival show Their survival show was delayed many times
@h33ki
4 ай бұрын
@@nicoleloss7987 their survival show being delayed has nothing to do with what they do wrong their concepts. obviously we’ll never know for certain, but in my opinion newjeans is an inspiration. i’m not saying they have the same concept
@nathalytoledo6323
4 ай бұрын
The inspiration seems TOO strong for an employee who claims another group from the PARENT company copied her UNIQUE style. My point is, if you are going to start a company statement dragging another group, basically use that as your excuse to be against your employer, and be OK with calling minors "copycats", then you better have the most original group of your kind, as the video suggests.
@nathalytoledo6323
4 ай бұрын
@@h33ki Also, while you are at it, check the video "뉴진스 Attention 뮤비 표절", which displays not only MHJ originality but also the unique taste for certain APPROPRIATE themes.
@MewDenise
4 ай бұрын
I want everyone to google "can you copyright a concept?" NO! No you can not!
@epiphanyart
4 ай бұрын
This is the worst time for bunnies and probably all hybe group fandoms right now 😞😞
@btsnu
4 ай бұрын
@@BTSISMYHAPPYPLACE4VER we are also facing so many allegations. Ofcourse we could find a way out of it.
@Doby-xc1le
4 ай бұрын
@@btsnu army is genuinely the main reason i try and steer clear of any kpop related media outside of streaming songs. yall are annoying as hell and honestly just straight up weird and creepy lol like yall fr in love and obsessed with idols who would never gaf about you personally. the bts subreddits are embarrassing and yalls youtube comments are too
@Doby-xc1le
4 ай бұрын
@@BTSISMYHAPPYPLACE4VER no one said bts wouldnt be fine so maybe go listen to dynamite while dancing in front of ur jhope shrine while your parents wonder where they went wrong downstairs listening to your stomping left feet
@Doby-xc1le
4 ай бұрын
@@btsnu girl just close your web browser and poof! allegations are gone. you need to relax and spend your time in a more meaningful way. why are you acting like it is. your job to defend bts - their paid PR team can handle it. you are worthless to them and they dont give a shit about you, they just want you to buy their albums and fuck off lol please i mean this in the nicest way possible but go get a life and live for yourself not a parasocial relationship with jungkook.
@btsnu
4 ай бұрын
@@Doby-xc1le who says my idols doesn't care about fans . I don't feel so and also a millions of armys out there agrees with me. And reddit is the site with lots of cheap gossip about other artist too. I am not interested in going through those shitty sites. And Armys aren't the only toxic fandom out there. All fandom have toxic fans.. and about me wasting time on bts. Sorry as a stranger you don't have any say in how I spend my time . Okay . And wtf you mean by being in a parasocial relationship with Jungkook.. did I state in my comment that I am dating him or something Stop assuming dumb things about others and judging them. And very sorry if the artist you follow makes you feels like a shitty thing.. I cannt connect with you because the ones I follow makes me feels loved and important.....
@Doby-xc1le
4 ай бұрын
What people fail to realize is there is a difference between plagiarizing from a group that debuted almost 30 years ago and plagiarizing a group that literally JUST debuted not even 2 years ago... I can understand why MHJ would be annoyed that hybe seems to be cannibalizing NWJNS. I do wish she wouldve been upfront about plagiarizing the og Jeans though, but I assume she thought it would never become common knowledge. definitely a mistake on her end.
@no1defleppardfan101
4 ай бұрын
exactly what I pointed out. A 30 year difference is a huge reach imo
@biggusduckus6489
4 ай бұрын
Why are you copy pasting the same comment? That’s bot like behaviour 😂
@Doby-xc1le
4 ай бұрын
@@biggusduckus6489 i copy pasted most of it and only did it twice because i dont want to fucking re-type everything that i already wrote? but yeah go ahead and ignore what i said :) v and jjungkook would not like you irl sorry babes like do u rly think they would like someoen so uncool that theyd fall fro a parasocial idol relationship. LOL
@LivelyDays23
4 ай бұрын
I’m going to be honest I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the NingNing comments were like a little bit prejudice just because I’ve heard LingLing and XingXing in reference to a Chinese person when it’s clearly not their name.
@nmixxgirls205
4 ай бұрын
You can ask the question, if NJ’s Y2K concept hadn’t worked out, would other groups like Illit have copied it too? Most likely not. That’s where I give credit to NJ’s for trying to be “different” in today’s generation by borrowing old generation’s concept. You can say they copied previous generations from decades ago, but making what was old, trendy again and how big NJ became is an amazing accomplishment on its own.
@danilecanda125
4 ай бұрын
I ask you, just think about it, if New Jeans, haven't debut in HYBE do you think that they would have been successful, just a thought
@nightishot1014
4 ай бұрын
@nmixxgirls205 💯 well said, just bringing back old concepts is not enough, but making them work too is the key. Ironic that what made NJ different from other Kpop groups of today, is what was common in Kpop 20 years ago.
@comez1634
4 ай бұрын
@danilecanda125 huh? That’s like also asking if ILLIT hadn’t debut in HYBE, do you think they would have also been successful?
@Chaestial
4 ай бұрын
@@danilecanda125obvi, but was that the point of the comment? Fromis_9 is not that big, and their under hybe? Yes, newjeans reached alot of popularity bcs they were under hybe, but they became even bigger with the "bringing back the old times"..
@danilecanda125
4 ай бұрын
@@Chaestial fromis_9 didn't debut or start as a HYBE group
@stduupie
4 ай бұрын
saying svt copied aespa is insane 💀💀
@ioutsoldurfavs
4 ай бұрын
They did twice
@syris0325
4 ай бұрын
I'm sorry but the choreography copyright stuff is sorta ridiculous. especially with the newjeans/jeans copying coming up again, where they also show similarity in choreo. Like I get it and totally see the point but there's only a certain way a body can move and almost every choreo that is out by now WILL have similarities with another, older choreo.
@wispymango
4 ай бұрын
the choreography copyright was in the works wayyy before the Ador/HYBe feud. search up Lia Kim, she's the president of the president of Korea choreography copyright associations. She's been talking about choreographers right to protect their work since 2017
@danilecanda125
4 ай бұрын
Funny fact, In fact, this exists internationally with copyright, which is part of property rights. These establish that any original creation has copyright from the moment of its creation. This applies to music, literature, science, and other areas, and includes choreography. However, it is important to note that the copyright of a choreography only applies to a set of successive steps and movements, not to the entire choreography or just one step. A step is only protected if it is significantly original, like the step of the boy with the backpack. Additionally, works are only subject to copyright for a certain period that varies from country to country. The Berne Convention establishes a minimum of 50 years internationally. In Europe, the term is 70 years, and in Mexico, which has the longest duration, it is 100 years. These terms are counted from the death of the author. This is what happened to Disney with Mickey Mouse. Due to a change in the U.S. law, which previously protected the work for 95 years from its creation, the first version entered the public domain this year. Therefore, the character in its original version can be used by the public in the United States only, because copyright is respected according to the laws of each country. In Europe, it will enter the public domain in 2036. It is also important to consider that copyright is granted to the creator of the choreography, but the artist or performer receives a neighboring right, which means they can publicly use and profit from the choreography. What strikes me is the need for this law when Korea already has a copyright law. It has undergone several changes throughout history, but the most current version states that rights are protected for 50 years after the author's death. Additionally, infringement of this law can be penalized with up to 3 years in prison and a fine. The Korean law is also highly criticized for being very strict and inflexible.
@syris0325
4 ай бұрын
@@danilecanda125 that makes sense honestly but then i'm confused as to why it's talked about as if it didn't exist before by like 90% of people. Thank you for the explanation though!
@killuazoldyckhunter
4 ай бұрын
I watched the Burning Sun documentary, and I realized the situation was worse than I thought. The documentary was eye-opening and I hate it how things haven't changed and what happened at Burning Sun is still happening at different clubs there today. I got emotional and teary eyed during Goo Hara's part. She was so brave and the part that she wanted to be an aunt and if she was alive for a few days she could have been there for the news of her brother's child broke me. It's a shame on society that we lost such brave women like Hara and Sulli and many others to this injustice ridden world.
@nathanielAdam5824
4 ай бұрын
This is sooo ridiculous 😒 imagine bmw calling out Mercedes for having the s class bc it's similar to the i7 Both of them are luxury cars, have a long wheel base , have similar tech, so what 😒😒☹️☹️
@pheonix9929
4 ай бұрын
And that Hyuna is now dating one of the Burning sun's criminal and their are bunch of other entitled idols like Nana, Somi etc are supporting this sh*t. THE REAL PEOPLE WHO NEEDS TO BE BOYCOTTED ARE THESE
@meikoluvv
4 ай бұрын
RIP Goo Hara..
@MewDenise
4 ай бұрын
NO ONE can copyright a dance move. You can copyright a rutine though. I can line up 20 girl groups that do the exact same move
@ONITOPIA
4 ай бұрын
Fromis_9 was under several CJ labels before they eventually transferred the management to Pledis in August 2021.
@moluccensis
4 ай бұрын
not me spreading misinformation 😭
@ONITOPIA
4 ай бұрын
@@moluccensis All is fine.
@ranamoviefun
4 ай бұрын
sHe talks about creativity and copied everything. That's a shame
@withcharmtospare
4 ай бұрын
I’m guessing they’re trying to do to choreo what music and clothing have done in terms of I.P. So certain memorable chord progressions and how interpolations bring it somewhere different enough that the new song stand alone, including arrangement and lyrics, or they end up giving credits to the older artists. It will be cool to see how that works. I don’t think I can ever watch that do even knowing Go Hara helped but it’s still too real knowing what went down. In happier news I am so going to my local kpop store to grab the xg light stick it’s so cool!!
@gravy9gravy
4 ай бұрын
Everybody copied everybody who copied everybody who copied Chuck Berry... Sampling is where you use a recording of another recording. None of this is sampling. What is being discussed is composition copyright infringement. In the US, there is a very high bar to prove this. The melody and harmonic structure have to be the same and a plaintiff has to prove the defendant had access to the original. The only recently upheld claim was Marvin Gaye vs Thicke and Williams, because they had admitted it in an interview. It'll be the same with choreography copyright. It's a very fine line.
@boredbeck
4 ай бұрын
yeah, these people use "sampling" without knowing what sampling actually is lol
@no1defleppardfan101
4 ай бұрын
Not trying to defend Min Heejin in anyway, but Jeans, the Mexican group, debuted wayyyyy back in the 90s…. while NewJeans debuted in 2022… that’s a literal THIRTY year difference. Now I definitely see a similarity, but I don’t think it’s copying at all. that style and font was very popular back in the 90s, and there are many manyyyyy other K-pop groups who have used the same choreography and styling ESPECIALLY FIRST GEN LIKE S.E.S AND BABY V.O.X
@MegaHollystar
4 ай бұрын
The problem is that she accused other groups of copying her. Illit because of straight black hair, hanbok and a few choreo steps TWS.. I don't even see any similarities aside from them both doing a "fresh" concept By her standards, this would be hard-core plagiarizing because NJ has similarities to them in their concepts, logos, parts of the mvs, graphic design, choreo points.. even their names.. all she did was add "New" to the Jeans. It's an issue because she's publicly accusing other groups of copying her over 1/2 things when she's done the exact same thing for her group in a larger scale
@Candyyyyu
4 ай бұрын
The way they didn’t even change the name and just put new to make it different is ironic to me😂😂 btw not hating the girls , I love them but min heejin is just tasting from her own medicine
@eugenechale3265
4 ай бұрын
LoL it has been debunked already nothing here proves that they copied . The name so we can say anyone with lil in his name copied lil Wayne ? 🤣🤣
@Candyyyyu
4 ай бұрын
@@eugenechale3265 then you bunnies (some of the fandom )should stop accusing illit of copying or at least leave this girls alone they have been through a lot even before their debut Btw i think illit concept is more of wjsn or formis9 tbh idk see how they are coping new jeans but i d agree that the choreography is similar ngl
@eugenechale3265
4 ай бұрын
@@Candyyyyu I am not a newjean fan . But it is ridiculous if you think their concept is not simiar to newjean. Their song magnetic actually at first listen I thought it was newjeans wtf. And it is ridiculous from hybe to debut a girl group similar to newjeans and try to give newjeans 1 yr 6 months just 1 after they debut wtf ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Candyyyyu
4 ай бұрын
@@eugenechale3265 uhm no magnetic don’t even sound new jeans tbh I do think new jeans is more cool teenagers vibes While illit is more of cute fresh concepts But it’s your opinion and I do respect it
@nicoleloss7987
4 ай бұрын
It still going around the internet right now
@puzzlehead6669
4 ай бұрын
i'll list the things that people accused New Jeans copying from Jeans and address them. 1st is the name. 2nd is Jeans Cd Cover vs Newjeans Album cover. 3rd is two choreography moves. THE NAME: 1st JEANS is not a new thing that was made up for the group. It's something that already exist, so of course there are bands with the word Jeans in the name, for example Blue Jeans, Mom Jeans, Tight White Jeans, etc there are countless. It isn't like Aespa a new name that they made up. 2nd is the Cover Picture. They aren't similar but the name of the type of photography is called Cyanotype and was popular during y2k era. Examples are Brittney spears Album In the Zone, Evanescence Album Fallen, MissE album So addictive, TLC album Fan Mail, etc. 3rd is choreography. One of the moves is literally a Congo Line so thats laughable and the 2nd move is where they bend down and whip back up. That move is from Sensual Bachata Bend Over/Forward Fold Move In which existed since 1960s. It's a dance style from Dominican Republic like The Salsa that came from Cuba and Puerto Rico. None of this was copied from Jeans, since they made none of this, they also just used what was popular when they were out. ILLIT however is a whole different story where Bang Si-Hyuk wants more of full control of New Jeans but had Min hee Jin in the way so told Kim Tae-ho to make a copy so that he had more in the way of control. Nobody is a hero in this story, Bang Si-Hyuk, Min hee Jin, and Kim Tae-ho are all pretty terrible in my opinion but the fact that Illit is a copy of Newjeans still stands. The only innocent ones are the members of Illit and Newjeans.
@syris0325
4 ай бұрын
ah so that's why it's NEW jeans 🤭 (sorry i couldn't help it)
@eugenechale3265
4 ай бұрын
How is this a copy ? So lil baby copied lil Wayne bcs he has lil in his name ?
@syris0325
4 ай бұрын
@@eugenechale3265 did you see all the comparisons? It's far more than just the name. But of course it's just 'inspiration' when done by someone's fave... Besides, I made it pretty clear that it's a joke. Chill out 🤷♀️
@eugenechale3265
4 ай бұрын
@@syris0325 I saw and I can say it's a no. They didn't have any inspiration from that group. All that jeans style was a trend in 90s . Desting child, Britney spears , Shakira and others were all using that style sooooo
@syris0325
4 ай бұрын
@@eugenechale3265 okay so why is it plagiarism when i.e. illit does it.......
@AmusedGuitarPedals-pg9tk
4 ай бұрын
I personally think jeans are stupid for not demanding some sort of payment from new jeans. we all know if it was the other way around they would’ve sued them out of business.
@jdavis8639
4 ай бұрын
So was I accusing Jimin of plagiarism when I said that he was doing Michael Jackson's moves but only slower? Guess there's a thin line between inspiration and plagiarism cause everyone copied Michael. Michael copied Elvis and some unknown street dancer. Elvis copied Chuck Berry. It's definitely true that there's nothing new under the sun. Every automaker copier Henry Ford. Hyundai copied BMW, Mercedes, Lexus and Audi. That was a bit much but there's nothing new
@btsnu
4 ай бұрын
Is it jimin 's part in dynamite. If that is the case the agency asked permission from MJ family before doing it..
@danilecanda125
4 ай бұрын
An individual dance step cannot be eligible for copyright protection. So no need to ask
@jdavis8639
4 ай бұрын
@@btsnu The agency must have figured it was okay to copy everything then, cause the Like Crazy video is all Michael Jackson's exact moves slowed down. Jimin even looked like Michael. 😂😂😂
@btsnu
4 ай бұрын
@@jdavis8639 asking prior permission and giving credit to the original creators isn't considered 'plagiarism ' . Look it up in the dictionary . Some of bts video are paying homage to MJ so it could of course be similar..
@jdavis8639
4 ай бұрын
@@btsnu My original comment began with a question in order to question whether Newjeans was copying if Jimin wasn't copying. By your response maybe neither was copying. Although the entire time I was watching Like Crazy, I was like, that's Michael Jackson all the way and then some.😂😂😂
@user-mc3qv4pw1p
4 ай бұрын
why is your source koreaboo and allkpop.. LMAO
@ioutsoldurfavs
4 ай бұрын
Because there usually good source with most accurate stuff??
@user-mc3qv4pw1p
4 ай бұрын
@@ioutsoldurfavs they're not even close to being an accurate or good source?? they're filled with clickbait articles that lack valid sources and regularly use random korean forum posts from "theqoo" or "pann" to base their reporting. it's like taking a random post someone made on reddit and spreading their claims as fact. their articles are the furthest thing from accurate and very biased.
@slayingsana
4 ай бұрын
oh no not more newjeans and lsfm drama😭
@Envirofriendly234
4 ай бұрын
I don't know what bunnies think about owning concept but twice faced the same situation in their debut era where many groups came with same concept but the girls have potential and charisma so they nailed it and other groups changed the concept. But the way min hee jin is claiming it seems like she thinks that new jeans doesn't have calibre even though they do. By doing she is underestimating her own group. Instead she would have stayed in hybe and prove them wrong with talent because fans and k-pop creators are not fool who don't get the copied things. But this criticism is not normal one, its toxic to the point that i think she wants these both girl groups to disband or rather wrong step like sulli or goo hara.
@mhmmd_arsal
4 ай бұрын
what mhj says is her formula that being copied/ too much similarities with illit
@mr.n3282
4 ай бұрын
In school if you were given a project its common to do research and reference past materials but blatantly copying from your seatmate is undeniable frowned upon
@AlgParis
4 ай бұрын
The burning sun documentary was really well done. The incidents were covered by a lot of people and KZitem channels but few people talked about the journalists and what the aftermath was for them. What infuriated me was how lenient the punishment was…
@vanillogabriel2823
4 ай бұрын
Hara 😢 Thank you so much. ❤
@idkidkidk170
4 ай бұрын
Not to be that girl but I think you glazed over the texts from MHJ way too quickly. If you read them they’re very VERY heinous and she didn’t refute them, she said they were “taken out of context”. So that means they’re 100% real and those are her words, which under any context sound absolutely terrible. If anyone actually cares about New Jeans you will NOT support this woman.
@moluccensis
4 ай бұрын
i went over everything quickly because i’ve been covering the news in deep dive videos, i just add little updates in my regular content in the meantime
@Lixx143V
4 ай бұрын
I think we need major lessons on what plagiarism is 🙃🙃 it’s getting old 😭😭 and so annoying
@danilecanda125
4 ай бұрын
People need to learn international and Nacional copyright laws, there's is a hole internacional agreement about this
@jams1113
4 ай бұрын
with the subtitles the youtube default ones can often be incorrect especially when you're using korean words and such!
@taneziamcadams7500
4 ай бұрын
I feel like this is mhj haters trying to undermine her claims. I don’t think mhj would care much if sm or another label debuted a group with a similar concept as NJ. The problem is a HYBE subsidiary doing it not long after NJ debuted. From my understanding (I don’t follow any groups so take that for what it’s worth), people were genuinely confused with illit promos thinking it was NJ because that was how similar it was. All offense, this Jeans group was from the 90s! And is from another country! No one is going to confuse NJ with them. But people WILL confuse NJ with illit, and THATS the problem. I think ignoring that context is a bit braindead of a take. Context does matter and pretending a group looking like any group from the 90s (literally if NJ is plagiarizing this group then I guess they are almost every 90s girl group because just about all of them looked like that the fuck) maybe being referenced is the same as a company debuting a girl group with enough of a similar style that even fans were confused at first is so much of a reach that I hope netizens were stretching before doing it so they didn’t pull something. Even with the choreo, there is only but for so many moves you can do in dancing, especially pop-style dancing (all offense but I can tell most kpop fans do not dance, have never danced, and especially don’t understand dancing that doesn’t require an 8-count to learn how to do). If a full 8 or 16-count is the same then sure call out the plagiarism. But a move existing in one dance or another a is a wild accusation. That leg lift hip pop baemon does in sheesh is a move I’ve done in lots of dance routines long before they debuted. I actually often have to modify kpop dance routines when I learn them because I notice they often attempts to do certain moves common in dancing but they choreograph it weird so I have to adjust it so it feels more natural (modern kpop dancing is so bad at this; I miss the fun campy style of second gen lol). My point is NJ doing a slightly similar move than this group is not plagiarism. If it was a whole 8 or 16 count then sure. But a one second move? Kpop fans, your delusion is showing. I don’t quite understand the hate boner westerners have to mhj. Yall can say whatever you want about what she referenced as inspiration for NJ but y’all still listen and stan those girls. I wasn’t into the concept so I didn’t listen but yall made those girls break records and literally had convos over their debut being a cultural reset moment that officially welcomed in the fifth generation of kpop. But now that Hybe is attacking her (in a way that would be a major lawsuit waiting for Hybe to lose if this was America lol; Korea must have crazy piss poor employee rights and business laws for this to be allowed or okay) you all are trying to use that momentum to really paint this picture like she’s a horrible person. It’s weird. It seems like she’s a talented and accomplished woman who doesn’t want what she’s spent about two decades building to be completely destroyed because Hybe are money hungry sexist control freaks (considering how mhj is their only female ceo and they started attacking her publicly before the result of their investigation-and the rampant and unchecked misogyny in the entertainment industry especially in Korea-I am inclined to believe they wouldn’t have pulled this with a male ceo just saying), her almost manic approach to prove her innocence makes sense. We all saw what happened with fifty fifty, and we all know this industry will throw women away in a second. If you spent 20 years making a name for yourself to the point that when you leave your old job there is a bidding war to try to scoop you up, you’d have every right to feel good about the work you do. And you’d have every right to expect respect and consideration. It’s obvious to me Hybe hired her for the optics, just to be able to claim having her, but had no intentions of using her. But she was determined to work and did and created a group y’all love to death but you want to pretend she had nothing to do with it. And she makes that company lots of money and this is what they did in return. Idc if you don’t like mhj, but if you can’t easily see the hate campaign Hybe is doing here, you’re either delusional or just blind.
@ewrf5066
4 ай бұрын
MHJ seems to be playing against each other to cover up that he is actually a true plagiarist 🤣where has his defender been all this time? do they still want to defend him?
@asatitude양
4 ай бұрын
newjeans copying jeans makes sense, its jeans but new! so newjeans 😭😭
@MewDenise
4 ай бұрын
What's the label behind fromis? They handle salary. HYBE provide money for production. All labels created by BH/HYBE have salary so?
@pomodraw
2 ай бұрын
Mexican music from as old as I can remember is basically just translating/imitating what's popular around the world... So I bet there's a group Jeans totally rip off that yall not talking about 😂😂
@kielTence-j7z
4 ай бұрын
The demolition job is too much. 2024 is the most toxic year for kpop
@MewDenise
4 ай бұрын
Most of the copy accusations on NJ are just funny clapbacks to make their fans and netizens look dumb. We can play that game also. Soon NO ONE shall get to have any hair colors and need to shave their hair
@TomsMusicCorner
4 ай бұрын
atp I'm glad they forgot fromis_9. They dodged the plagiarism-bullets fired left and right but then there is the payment stuff and we also know, that Pledis is quick to silence the girls for anything what could harm the company reputation.
@fairykwangya
4 ай бұрын
mhj really said: i bring, i bring i bring all the dra-ma-ma-ma- ma i bring dra-ma-ma-ma-ma with MY GIRLS in the back GIRLS in the back
@GleeChan
4 ай бұрын
Not that I'm defending that awful person, Heejin, but I do want to point out that cherry picking images/video to suit a narrative isn't proof of anything. Without seeing video footage of Jeans choreo next to NewJeans choreo (that isn't just a second worth of movement) I wouldn't jump to conclusions. There are a lot of repeated movements in dance, and small moments like those don't really paint the whole story.
@drinks_menu
4 ай бұрын
Literally every girl group has done hands on the shoulder thing tbh Also that hair flip move is so generic lol that could easily be from a Britney video
@softeuph3974
4 ай бұрын
Everyone in K-pop is dressing y2k have you not heard of XG, LE SERRAFIM?? Everyone is wearing big jeans now. Bruh everyone in the world is dressing y2k it’s literally a trend right now. If anything NWJNS just debuted in 2022. People in Japan and all over the world have been dressing y2k since 2018. Also the dance moves? ALL of NewJeans moves are from black people and can easily be found on TikTok. They freaking did the stiff hip for Christ’s sake. Did they invent that too? Shut uppp.😂
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