I love that in a world of NFT bros it's just accepted that possession is ownership. If you steal it - you own it. And they just laugh it off.
@BBWahoo
2 жыл бұрын
"I watched my wife get banged by another guy!" *laughs in wittol*
@funkyphill4861
2 жыл бұрын
And these people still think their garbage will be taken seriously as an investment Absolutely pathetic
@nevanmurray1737
2 жыл бұрын
if they admit that stolen nfts don’t really belong to the thieves than they would have to admit that they don’t really own them either
@rorysparshott4223
2 жыл бұрын
Of course, because otherwise the entire premise collapses
@gilded_lady
2 жыл бұрын
They have to, since crypto/NFT is supposed to be about fuck the man. Can't cry fuck the man if you need the man to get your shit back.
@sars910
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Batman : The Animated Series had to be cancelled because someone stole Batman.
@ouiVEVO
2 жыл бұрын
The NFTs! WHERE ARE THEY
@franciscofreitas6695
2 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahahahaha nice man!
@contentdeleted4978
2 жыл бұрын
I got paid to attend veecon. Not sure who paid it but hey free money.
@xLordOfNothingx
2 жыл бұрын
This looked like absolute garbage though lol
@Montesama314
2 жыл бұрын
Damn you, Joker!
@ChengTeoh
2 жыл бұрын
"Someone stole my JPEG. I want compensation" will be heard by many a confused Judges in the near future.
@daleryanaldover6545
2 жыл бұрын
@Pinned_by Coffeezilla gtfo fraud
@tjenadonn6158
2 жыл бұрын
The 2020's equivalent of deciding who gets which Beanie Babies in the divorce.
@carloswarner3023
2 жыл бұрын
Yep. That’s all it is without an actual legal document.
@volvo09
2 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched it yet, but I'm guessing he gave it away through social engineering or some other tactic. Not like it matters, it's a jpg of an ape anyways.
@MachiNoShaku
2 жыл бұрын
not even a jpeg, its a hyperlink to a set of code that describes a thing made by a bot which resides on a "decentralized" platform... yeah that might complicate things even further.
@noinfluencemedia
2 жыл бұрын
“Everyone loves decentralization until there’s no customer service”
@Martin-qb2mw
2 жыл бұрын
lmao 😂
@pouya5625
2 жыл бұрын
Wise words
@evv1508
2 жыл бұрын
That is so true, but still love btc
@holiggan2008
2 жыл бұрын
And no regulation, or protection against crime or fraud 😂
@danishbutter1847
2 жыл бұрын
Anarcho Capitalism be like...
@funasylumstudio
2 жыл бұрын
"I'm gonna kick the door in" "I got some top men" These people really live in a fantasy world. They're imaginary tough guys kicking in doors with their imaginary goon squad, going after imaginary property
@higunner00
2 жыл бұрын
You have to pity him. He cannot say "I will hunt you, kick your door and kick your ass", because is Seth Green, a Chihuahua with a hyperactive bladder is far more intimidating
@nachannachle2706
2 жыл бұрын
This comment is the best. 🤣
@lorandhorvath4466
2 жыл бұрын
yup
@josephelijah4073
2 жыл бұрын
Welp, whatever he did worked lol
@pokermitten9795
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but imagine the short term emotional consequences of becoming honest.
@sulijoo
2 жыл бұрын
So let me get this straight:in NFT World, if you steal something, you now own it. Legally it's now yours. 😂
@ReigoVassal
2 жыл бұрын
@@FatFrogChonk The difference is that in real world there's a law to protect someone's property. And those law have actual power. Also the stolen stuff can be retrieved.
@vxicepickxv
2 жыл бұрын
It's even weirder because there's legal precedent to say because the original product was machine generated it can't be granted copyright.
@CharlesFreck
2 жыл бұрын
That's basically how the real world works, good luck getting stolen goods back unless you put a digital tracker in it or something. Most stolen goods in real life are never returned, it's too hard to prove they were genuinely stolen without identifiers.
@cyc00000
2 жыл бұрын
It's kind of obvious considering possession is nine-tenths of the law. Get out from under your rock and do some book learning.
@elbruces
2 жыл бұрын
The entire point of the crypto/NFT world was to have things whose existence was independent of laws or banks. Viva la libertarianism! Up with anarchy! Then when stuff like this happens they cry that governments can't do anything to enforce their ownership. But they made it that way! On purpose!
@soviut303
2 жыл бұрын
What's ironic about this is if he alters the design of the ape just slightly then it's a different IP (especially when considering how the NFTs are generated) and the show can continue. The reason he'd want it to be his ape is so that the show can inflate the value of his NFT.
@roalama1301
2 жыл бұрын
it is possible they know this and the entire theft is just advertising. Then he can say heworked it out with the creators of the bored apes to make it anyway.
@contentdeleted4978
2 жыл бұрын
When the lazy greedy rich get richer then get hacked or scammed ahhh so much relief.
@turkeyherder9456
2 жыл бұрын
@@roalama1301 A very real possibility. That would be clever marketing.
@Veon1
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. A lotta yall still dont get it. ape holders can use multiple slurp juices on a single ape. so if you have 1 astro ape and 3 slurp juices you can create 3 new apes.
@angeldejesus1847
2 жыл бұрын
@@Veon1 Wtf is a slurp juice and why is that even a thing?
@dahlma25
2 жыл бұрын
So let me get this straight. Seth had a whole production based off this ape and he decided to keep it in a hot wallet instead of secure in a Ledger? I think it's more plausible that they knew the show was a stinker and made this whole story up.
@18aplateindoors
2 жыл бұрын
My man 👍
@justarandomstrangerwholike8282
2 жыл бұрын
@Pinned_by Coffeezilla @coffezilla look a bot
@Yora21
2 жыл бұрын
This whole thing is so dumb I can't believe it's real. But people think they make smart investments by buying NFTs, so who knows.
@elbruces
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think he knows what a hot wallet is.
@johnsmithe4656
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think he made it up. I think he got scammed. But he has to play it off like it's not THAT big a deal because he's a celebrity and there's the whole production around it. He can't just go to the corner and cry. Not in public anyway.
@Daniel-le3gl
2 жыл бұрын
Everyone age 30 or older, try explaining this story to your parents - a truly mesmerizing experience.
@mikematthews6409
2 жыл бұрын
I can't explain it to myself
@Chin-ny4kj
2 жыл бұрын
Dude I'm 24 and still have no idea why NFTs are so popular.Unless its money laundering like watches and art.Who tf is actually buying this shit? Mfs are creating their own demand and supply outta thin air 😭.
@cool_sword
2 жыл бұрын
"What?" - My wonderful parents every time I tell them what an NFT is
@ekki1993
2 жыл бұрын
@@Chin-ny4kj It's a lot of money from middle-high class people between 20 and 50 years old, who see the economy stagnating, not being able to do what the boomers promised was possible (e.g. buy a house, keep a marriage), and jump into this crazy shit. They always existed, as well as Ponzi/Pyramid schemes, but now they get more reach with social media and higher retention with tech jargon. It all gets amplified by the minority making big bank hyping it up even more, while the majority losing money (because it's a zero sum game, the dollars anyone earns come from those who lost money) just stay silent. All of that is supported by extremely rich people using a small portion of their money to keep the whole thing afloat because they love the prospect of getting even more money from those poorer than them. In short, they are losers from the 5%, like there have been in every generation, that become desperate enough to jump into these insane promises, plus grifters from the 1% siphoning even more money from them.
@comradesam3382
2 жыл бұрын
Dude Im 20 and dont understand it
@jackdaniel3135
2 жыл бұрын
I hope the writers of Family Guy make a “Chris Becomes Obsessed with NFTs” episode so they can force Seth Green to make fun of himself. Kinda like how they poke fun at his involvement in Robot Chicken.
@BBWahoo
2 жыл бұрын
I would love that
@gebbygebbers
2 жыл бұрын
shit that really IS our seth green isnt it 😢 what a way to go down...
@JJMcCullough
2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand this drama at all. What is keeping Seth from just making his show anyway? In what court is the "true" owner of the ape possibly going to sue him? All this business about "owning" NFTs is just larping, it has no actual legal standing, does it?
@stevekullens4898
2 жыл бұрын
The true owner isn't the hacker, it's someone who bought it from the hacker. If the show makes enough money, I'd imagine that the person who has the property rights would sue to get a cut.
@Coffeezilla
2 жыл бұрын
Making a show where you don’t have commercial use rights to the main character is always going to be a risky decision. The new owner is not the scammer either, it’s a secondary market purchaser from the scammer-Darkwing.
@barmiro
2 жыл бұрын
The original sale contract states that you get the copyright when you buy an ape. However, if I understood correctly what Legal Eagle had to say about situations like these, the contract doesn't apply to any subsequent transfer of the token unless a new one was signed
@whattwowhat
2 жыл бұрын
Seth also drank the NFT kool-aid, so disregarding the NFT rights would be a hell of a sunk-cost he would have to get over.
@StefanReich
2 жыл бұрын
Good point
@Alltime2050
2 жыл бұрын
Seth could have just drawn his own bored ape and given it a copyright, it would been safer and slightly less stupid. There is little real world advantage to an NFT.
@andrewkvk1707
2 жыл бұрын
If he attached the rights to the nft itself it wouldn't be any less of an issue, if it is separate from the nft there wouldn't really be any point to the nft itself.
@AdirondackRuby
2 жыл бұрын
They only benefit the creator. Once you buy it, you have to hope someone else values it more than you so you can sell it on and profit.
@TimeeeTimeeeTimeee
2 жыл бұрын
but then the show would just be about a shitty drawn ape, not a Bored ape NFT - wich is kinda the whole point
@epiccollision
2 жыл бұрын
@@TimeeeTimeeeTimeee then his lawyers should have known you can’t copyright automated images made by a computer…
@safeforwork8546
2 жыл бұрын
@@BBWahoo is this casual antisemitism
@StargazingCeres
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think it's an inside job. Seth wasn't getting enough interest so he had to drum up some controversy to get people aware of the show.
@thebombsauce
2 жыл бұрын
Agree 100 percent, it also implies to people that the nft carries property rights when it actually doesn't or hasn't been shown to legally at least
@edwardaustin6146
2 жыл бұрын
there's a lag on binance with pair btc / eth almost x 3, i did a vld .
@messeuravril540
2 жыл бұрын
To quote a wise man “If we’re being honest, failure was probably the best outcome here.”
@ttrev007
2 жыл бұрын
I think this is a great example as to why the blockchain is a terrible place to store your property rights. Either the blockchain means nothing or you have no recourse to theft.
@marbleous9170
2 жыл бұрын
Yes and No. The concept isn't bad however the lack of protections in place is. This will change with the anticipated legislation that will occur.
@trentmay3777
2 жыл бұрын
@@marbleous9170 "Yes and no" get out of here bozo
@kevadu
2 жыл бұрын
@@marbleous9170 The concept is terrible. What is the advantage exactly?
@turtle7459
2 жыл бұрын
@@kevadu The only advantage is that you can legally steal lmao
@ak47ava
2 жыл бұрын
@@marbleous9170 Blockhain worshippers talk about Decentralization, but in reality you need centralization and govt intervention to protect the people.
@lillyrose6568
2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe NFTs are still a thing lol
@DragoNate
2 жыл бұрын
they're not going to go away. whether interest increases or not.
@BBWahoo
2 жыл бұрын
It's the rash of the internet
@kevadu
2 жыл бұрын
@@DragoNate Interest has been tanking. It's a dumb fad.
@DragoNate
2 жыл бұрын
@@kevadu huh, strange. slight interest goes down over 2 weeks because of $LUNA bank run crashing the market and that means it's "tanking" entirely. nope. not how that works. nfts are still around, new projects & artworks constantly coming out. as i said, even if interest decreases, they're not going away.
@kevadu
2 жыл бұрын
@@DragoNate I didn't say a word about Luna. Stop creating strawmen to argue with... NFT trade volume is down like 90% since it's peak late last year. Google search interest in NFTs is about a quarter what it was in January. These are long-running trends that have absolutely nothing to do with the more recent Luna nonsense but I suppose the constant news about scams and disasters in the crypto space doesn't exactly help either.
@Hadeks_Marow
2 жыл бұрын
The funniest thing is though, he couldn't even legally put out the show because the NFT background COLOR matters, which, in animation, you can't do unless he's always against a blank backdrop. If he's not, he is using someone elses board ape with the exact same clothes facial expression. And that isn't even touching on the fact that if the ape starts talking, it's even MORE at risk of reproducing a still frame of someone else's ape of wearing the same clothes with a different expression. It's hilarious how bad this is knowing the background color on the NFT matters. I forgot who pointed this out to me but god it was funny.
@TimmehJay
2 жыл бұрын
I came here to ask a question about this very thing.
@Hadeks_Marow
2 жыл бұрын
@@TimmehJay Exactly, legally this couldn't even exist without stepping on someone elses toes. This was a problem upon conception EVEN BEFORE the theft. If anything, the theft of this asset did the guy a favor.
@AureaPersona
2 жыл бұрын
@@Hadeks_Marow It is doubtful if the ape could be copyrighted in the first place.
@epiccollision
2 жыл бұрын
@@Hadeks_Marow you can’t copyright automated computer progress, these “NFTs” are traits randomized and compiled by a computer.
@Hadeks_Marow
2 жыл бұрын
@@epiccollision @AureaPersona Both of you are right. I forgot about that court case. But it does draw into question what rights are the parent company even offering then??? Cause they claim to be offering commercial rights. . . so how does that work???
@kneepayne
2 жыл бұрын
I've worked in film and TV and thought about the people who are actually behind making this show. Have they lost their jobs because rights to an imaginary cartoon ape was stolen? Life in that industry was turbulent enough already. Yeah, let's introduce NFTs. That'll make it all better...
@RK-em6fo
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the show production was behind schedule and this theft is just a convenient ploy to get more time. If the NFT is miraculously returned that would strengthen my suspicion
@SecondTake123
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! 🤣
@eduardobranco8349
2 жыл бұрын
The rights to an imaginary cartoon ape, the rights to a talking big mouse, the rights to space wizards with light swords. By that logic there's no copyright infringement to anyone making a new star wars movie. Which is something I support tbh
@nothobbesmufc949
6 ай бұрын
@@eduardobranco8349 except ppl drew that talking mouse. Lucas wrote and did in some cases draw that star wars IP......alot of these NFTs are generated by machines. And according to US court rulings, they therefore are not able to be copyrighted or trademarked unless substantial human influence is involved in the project.
@Jody8337
2 жыл бұрын
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@Maricel_oronan
2 жыл бұрын
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@SimonKelly7836
2 жыл бұрын
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@Jody8337
2 жыл бұрын
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@Jody8337
2 жыл бұрын
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@Jody8337
2 жыл бұрын
@Dwayne Wright Is her service available outside of the US? As her broker is registered in the US.
@sharkinahat
2 жыл бұрын
That is hilarious. I'm hoping IP/Copyright lawyer get their hand on this and prove in court that NFTs are not legally binding contracts.
@5WIM
2 жыл бұрын
I hope people realize that NFTs are worth $0
@epiccollision
2 жыл бұрын
Can’t copyright images made by a computer, you need a human to make the picture.
@jamesrule1338
2 жыл бұрын
If that happens does that mean no one owns the rights to the image?
@epiccollision
2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesrule1338 this is mostly correct, unless the artwork is made by a human.
@Demon.888
2 жыл бұрын
@@5WIM I hope people like you get educated on the subjects they decide to give their opinion on. But, you're human, I expect you won't.
@NailTransGayming
2 жыл бұрын
By far one of the funniest things I've seen come from the NFT space, truly phenomenal and most definitely the future of digital ownership.
@dereksbooks
2 жыл бұрын
...and nothing of value was lost.
@hippiemuslim
2 жыл бұрын
Yet there is comedic value in this story
@nas84payne
2 жыл бұрын
@@hippiemuslim More value than an NFT.
@jonathantan2469
2 жыл бұрын
This "future" is simply no different than the age of bandits in the Medieval Era where you had no recourse if your property was stolen by another group. Except get a well-armed bigger group to get it back & teach the other guys a permanent lesson...
@WoolfJ35
2 жыл бұрын
Idk why this seems like a marketing ploy as I never heard about this project until after his NFT got "stolen" I may be wrong but nowadays I feel like this would be the type of stuff they would do to hype something.
@KeithSlime
2 жыл бұрын
smells like an advertisement
@jamesflames6987
2 жыл бұрын
Good point.
@tehgamist7139
2 жыл бұрын
My immediate reaction too
@ancientflames
2 жыл бұрын
People believe this but don't believe the government stages stuff lol.
@Naptosis
2 жыл бұрын
You are quite cynical. It obviously comes with a good deal of lived experience. I totally agree.
@MrSThayer
2 жыл бұрын
I just laughed out loud - imagine calling the police and trying to explain that someone stole your jpeg of an ape.
@lizazagirova
2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
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2 жыл бұрын
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2 жыл бұрын
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2 жыл бұрын
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2 жыл бұрын
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2 жыл бұрын
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2 жыл бұрын
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@benjaminmatheny6683
2 жыл бұрын
One of the most interesting things about NFT copyrights is that most likely they are not enforceable. US courts ruled that a copyright *HAS* to be created by a person. Most of these "Copyrights" are on computer generated images, which do not have enforceable copyright.
@Thebt7
2 жыл бұрын
Correct, NFTs are just receipts. Most people don't even keep receipts or just throw them away. Since when did record keeping become an expensive art.
@crowdemon_archives
2 жыл бұрын
Lol I don't even know what they're expecting from this clusterfuck since none of the involved actually made the Bored Ape art. If anything I'm pretty sure only the artist(s) have any leg to stand on in the copyright department.
@jonathanm5446
2 жыл бұрын
Just tweak the design a bit and slide the hue scale in After Effects. Guy, it's a Bored Ape, not a Picasso, they all kinda look the same 🤦🏿♂️
@tomasg920
2 жыл бұрын
but then they would admit NFTs are bs
@BBWahoo
2 жыл бұрын
GASP! YOU...RACIZT!!!!
@jonathanm5446
2 жыл бұрын
@@BBWahoo 😂😂😂
@SharmV
2 жыл бұрын
If you bought an NFT I actually will laugh at you until I’m dead.
@Dan0TheMano
2 жыл бұрын
You should laugh at me, I do. But I made a grip buying and selling them. Just widgets to me.
@Dan0TheMano
2 жыл бұрын
@mVP I think I love you.
@BBWahoo
2 жыл бұрын
If you bought an NFT* WITH THE INTENTION OF KEEPING IT
@Redbeardian
2 жыл бұрын
They're also stuck between rock and hard because if they just went ahead with the show and someone made a copyright claim, went to court, and the court set a precedent that NFT's aren't actual copyright then the whole NFT world would crash instantly.
@BlueBomberGamerOficial
2 жыл бұрын
this whole thing felt way more as marketing gig, i dont doubt that he will get this thing back when this whole mess get cold...
@aethertoast4320
2 жыл бұрын
The thing that makes this hilarious is that it is unbelievably stupid that he didn't stash the Ape in a freaking offline hardware wallet. It is so stupid that he wouldn't do that.
@Jack-ck5iz
2 жыл бұрын
Not only that he would've literally had to click on a link and sign a transaction to approve somebody taking it. You have to be a different kind of stupid to do that on its own. Let alone using a wallet with a bored ape in it 😂
@realoutlawcam
2 жыл бұрын
Well thats definitely in line with all crypto/nft "investors". Stuipd drives desperation
@DailyMynt
2 жыл бұрын
No wallet is offline
@thecomputerdawgs1437
2 жыл бұрын
@@DailyMynt Yes, but the keys can be. Which clearly his weren't.
@Demon.888
2 жыл бұрын
@@DailyMynt depends what you mean by "wallet". Are you referring wallet to the node on the blockchain or the wallet that holds the keys? There is a problem with the terminology.
@JB_Koda
2 жыл бұрын
the hole thing seems like a cheap scam to promote an nft.
@sleepyproduction7166
2 жыл бұрын
It also tells me I can steal their NFTs and not only will I legally be the new owner, they can’t do anything except buy it back.
@Aries73
2 жыл бұрын
Stories like this makes me think that a good percentage of our society is in dire need of lobotomies.
@eirikarnesen9691
2 жыл бұрын
based
@thegmanofEAP
2 жыл бұрын
Just the wealthy
@BBWahoo
2 жыл бұрын
@@thegmanofEAP and the people who fund the wealthy, so a sizable chunk of our society, including govt
@ttrev007
2 жыл бұрын
... have had lobotomies
@thegmanofEAP
2 жыл бұрын
@@BBWahoo Absolutely. A lotta guys love to give tax breaks to these folks and companies while letting us die. Doesn't change that fact that the rich are leeches
@joelman1989
2 жыл бұрын
So satisfyingly hilarious to me that this happened in a convention basically designed to promote NFTs. Celebrating the commodification of art on the internet through a TV show is dystopian to me so I love that this happened.
@Haysey_Draws
2 жыл бұрын
The whole Nee Eff Tee celeb thing has really shined a light on so many "relatable" celebs on social media...in that they aren't. It was all there just to get fans to like them and buy their stuff, and the fact most of them have doubled down on their apes or whatever has just shown how little they think of their fans. Also Seth has made some good stuff, but that show looks so devoid of any effort it's painful to watch.
@digitalmarketinghumans
2 жыл бұрын
Sifu...we ever going to see you bash Dan Lok anymore? I remember those days where I would repeat 'I AM A FUCKEN BENTLEY'.
@AdirondackRuby
2 жыл бұрын
And this is why my parents always said "Get a Receipt!" and "Get it in writing!" ...when something is vague, unprovable, or in this case, exists only I an intangible, digital form...anything can happen!
@digitalzushi
2 жыл бұрын
The NFT itself IS the receipt. That's why this is funny.
@tjenadonn6158
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit of a Luddite. Unless it's on paper it's not real to me.
@jonathantan2469
2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing now is paper receipts are obsolete, as bank records can be used as proof of transaction.
@jamesmason7979
2 жыл бұрын
NFTs and crypto in general seem to be so risky and volatile. It just seems like making a show with an NFT just seemed to be a questionable idea at best.
@MrManio1000
2 жыл бұрын
Be quiet
@sirrathersplendid4825
2 жыл бұрын
Probably the only way to monetise an NFT. And with a short shelf life. Folk will soon get bored of bored apes.
@jonathantan2469
2 жыл бұрын
Even Frank Paul walked away a millionaire after his cartoon monkeys lost their popularity...
@rubyrose9367
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrManio1000 He speaks the truth though
@jimmyoats
2 жыл бұрын
NFTs are a good demonstration how the crypto space confuses possession with ownership, the latter requiring a legal framework to back up your claim.
@submonger7500
2 жыл бұрын
In would be sick to see an animation style like this... without the shilling of NFTs.
@jonathantan2469
2 жыл бұрын
The could have done it like Paul Frank, BAPE, and Von Dutch, and plastered it all over overpriced merch.
@The-skate-collector
2 жыл бұрын
Even dr evil thought Scotty was idiot he just needs to “zip it”
@Zufield
2 жыл бұрын
When something comes along, you must ZIP IT
@JUUJJII
2 жыл бұрын
Zippy Longstocking
@BurnsidesAP
2 жыл бұрын
He (and anyone else) might still be able to use the NFT... Legal Eagle did a video about NFTs and pointed out that an NFT created by a Computer randomly putting parts together might not have a copyright because it wasn't created by a human. I can't remember the details, and it's probably not something you'd want to go to court over, but it was interesting.
@epiccollision
2 жыл бұрын
This is also the correct answer.
@Tommmmmmmmmmmm
2 жыл бұрын
couldn’t he just “mint” an identical NFT, but change 1 pixel to a slightly different colour, then use it instead. problem solved…?
@legojay14
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tommmmmmmmmmmm From how proud these guys are of their nfts. It legit doesn't matter how easy it is to make an identical picture. He's doing this to generate value so he can sell the nft later on. Nft people won't buy a duplicate of that picture. It's not the one that exact one that Seth made a show with. So it's worthless. If he makes a show with a different one nft people will simply not want it as much and Seth doesn't make as much money
@BurnsidesAP
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tommmmmmmmmmmm I'm not a lawyer, but I'm confident that changing a single pixel in an image would not give you a copyright to the "new" image. That would be like removing a single frame from 'Avengers End Game' and that giving you a copyright to the "new" version. The point of my comment is that there's a good chance that nobody owns the copyright to the image because it was generated by a computer so, it might not meet the requirements to have a copyright in the first place.
@BurnsidesAP
2 жыл бұрын
If there's no copyright on the ape then anyone could make a show or merch using the ape regardless of who owns the NFT, so Seth could make his show. No need to waste time minting a new ape.
@LaurentiusTriarius
2 жыл бұрын
That show was to be destroyed by critics anyway. Seems so bad it could only achieve success in the future as a cringy cult.
@charlesm.2604
2 жыл бұрын
probably the goal to get attention to his nfts
@bachpham6862
2 жыл бұрын
The point is not to be good, the point is to reinforce in-group mentality. It is not about advertising your product to someone else, but to say to members of your own group that "look at what we did, imagine the thing we can do, so hold onto your NFTs". In fact, criticism is welcomed because that only reinforce even more: look at all these snobbish critics who don't get it, remember that they are our enemies, and don't listen to whatever the enemies say, regardless of logic.
@TreyKingsXI
2 жыл бұрын
Any chance this is just part of getting attention to the show? I feel like you'd be extra careful with that NFT. Probably just got "stolen"
@dena81
2 жыл бұрын
I used to really love Seth Green but this makes me judge him heavily especially since he's buddies with Gary Vee. So basically his NFT was taken by someone who pretty much exploited the biggest loophole flaw of them and Seth still can't see how awful they are?
@fishjohn014
2 жыл бұрын
Seth Green is unbelievably pretentious
@AweDude77
2 жыл бұрын
I laughed out loud when I read the title lmfao
@connormc711
2 жыл бұрын
By real owner we mean on chain. But if you want to enforce off chain you have to admit to buying stolen good so … Seth is in the clear?
@toromisher
2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha, the burden of a decentralised network... You can't track down the accounts involved in the fraud at all. This stuff is definitely the future, guys!
@suezuccati304
2 жыл бұрын
"Stolen NFTs get blacklisted and nobody is going to buy it from you" Sure, buddy.
@Tjomi
2 жыл бұрын
How would this stop the series? If Seth gets sued the "owner" of the nft will have to identify themselves. And then they will have to answer in a real court why they are buying stolen "goods"and refusing to return it when the original other contacts them
@Brad-lt6mr
2 жыл бұрын
"Code is law", so if the code allows you to effectively take possession, it's tough shit.
@TheCocomunges
2 жыл бұрын
What a shame to see Seth Green get into NFTs, I loved him as Joker in Mass Effect.
@BBWahoo
2 жыл бұрын
Loving him was your first mistake
@Pwnsweet
2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, he's still Joker in Mass Effect
@Noxedwin
8 күн бұрын
He's a joker IRL, too.
@harrydresden4661
2 жыл бұрын
I was totally unaware seth green was involved in this scam shit. Guess i'll add seth green to the boycott list.
@joshuapatrick682
2 жыл бұрын
This is kind of the main issue with NFT’s. Possession is apparently all the law and Seth Green cannot “somehow” Legally prove ownership despite being able to prove purchase of it?
@HHmz-rp8ht
2 жыл бұрын
May ask which authority/Entity would enforce the commercial rights to the said NFT?
@PointsofData
2 жыл бұрын
No one. It's not regulated yet.
@HHmz-rp8ht
2 жыл бұрын
@@PointsofData then that show cancelation is just a load of bs to not release that embarrassment
@PointsofData
2 жыл бұрын
@@HHmz-rp8ht the fact it's not regulated yet probably isn't something he's privy to, and he's just going along with "person who owns this owns the IP" because that's what's being told to him by the crypto bros. If that makes sense? I wouldn't say it's a lie to get out of the show. He seems genuinely upset.
@sierrajohnson717
2 жыл бұрын
The whole *visible on the blockchain* thing isn’t really helping here, is it. Yes, you’ve proven it’s stolen, and contacted the guy who has it……. Now what? There’s no way to enforce it. It’s not flagged or voided or anything. Like if a home security unit told you you’ve been robbed but didn’t call anyone, just gave you a heads up amd now you gotta chase the robbers all by yourself, going “BUT MY NAME IS ON THOSE!”
@Demon.888
2 жыл бұрын
It would only help if the receiving address is tied to a KYC account, whether it be direct or indirect.
@binbalebardac4156
2 жыл бұрын
If he used the image anyway, would that not force the person that stole it have to come forward to defend their new ownership, thus revealing who they are?
@lestinmurillo2566
2 жыл бұрын
Code is rule bro, if the blockchain says you owne it then you are the owner. Doesn't matter if you bought it from a hacker
@charlesm.2604
2 жыл бұрын
They aren't the hacker, just the new owners. The hacker sold the NFT on second market, the current owner have clean hands.
@fritz404
2 жыл бұрын
@@lestinmurillo2566 that's not how copyright law works though
@lestinmurillo2566
2 жыл бұрын
@@fritz404 try to explain that to crypto bros, not me.
@FatFrogChonk
2 жыл бұрын
@@fritz404 If it's even covered by copyright law.
@kirmityou
2 жыл бұрын
How exactly was the NFT stolen? I'm not that into the technical side of this, was Seth Green somehow scammed and made a mistake or can something like this just happen?
@kerpo1239
2 жыл бұрын
Green supposedly got phished, which caused someone getting access to his NFT wallet and allowing them to steal whatever was there.
@CantStopTheMadness
2 жыл бұрын
The guy has already been found, BuzzFeed interviewed him. He's reached out to Green, but he hasn't indicated he's willing to give it back.
@alexandercrumulent271
2 жыл бұрын
Can we hear a lawyer cry over how this story is mangling IP and copyright law?
@miamidolphinsfan
2 жыл бұрын
the whole NFT bullshit looks like a scam....
@Yora21
2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a scam Walks like a scam Quacks like a scam
@Limbomber
2 жыл бұрын
In a similar manner a lot of anime exist just to be an advertisement and sell manga volumes/merch etc. It's not a novel idea to have your IP be promoted by a garbage show but unless they somehow make it super memable or something no one will ever watch an NFT show lol.
@charlesm.2604
2 жыл бұрын
Pokemon, Yugioh, DBZ, Beyblade, etc...
@tjenadonn6158
2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesm.2604 Western properties like G.I. Joe, Transformers, Thundercats, TMNT, basically any other big name cartoon from.the '80s.
@cttommy73
2 жыл бұрын
Except anime is good. Let alone the fact you have animes that are completely original IPs created to just entertain people and sell the show itself.
@Arrrghjay84
2 жыл бұрын
They should really make it one of those “perks” that only NFT holders have, please deprive the rest of us from accidentally ever watching this mess.
@kbhasi
Жыл бұрын
Yep, also with some animated TV shows existing to advertise and sell their respective toy lines.
@SlamBolts
2 жыл бұрын
The interview at the con is just... delusional. That guy sounds nuts. And yeah that one last point could be summarized as "Big price, no value".
@hollenhammer
Жыл бұрын
who the fuck is gary v and why does he have his own convention. A convention people actually attend
@JustWhyFFS
2 жыл бұрын
"I get it, art has to make money." That's the real point here. Art DOESN'T have to make money. All art has to do, is exist.
@tjenadonn6158
2 жыл бұрын
Ars Gratia Artis.
@MrHendrix17
2 жыл бұрын
Capitalism was a mistake
@tjenadonn6158
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrHendrix17 Amen brother. Amen, awomen, and amenbies.
@CannonRushed
2 жыл бұрын
But have you ever tried eating or paying rent with free art. It ain’t easy.
@rubyrose9367
2 жыл бұрын
NFT's aren't art either.
@smirkingdevil
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a publicity stunt to me.
@skornie123
2 жыл бұрын
I secretely hope its some kind of public stunt, so NFTs look more ridicilous and useless
@DeathnoteBB
2 жыл бұрын
Technically NFTs can’t be stolen as whoever owns it rightfully owns it, regardless of how they got it. Trickery is perfectly legal as the system is deregulated. Also nobody hacked him, unless phishing counts as hacking. He just got hit by a phishing scammer.
@Sea_of_Waves
2 жыл бұрын
Ngl, th show that guy created looks better than Red Ape Family by a million miles. Not saying it's good, but hey, *it's not the worst*
@torqueoz3449
2 жыл бұрын
"I don't know why everyone is laughing when he said someone stole his NFT".. Cos it's hilarious, that's why
@nas84payne
2 жыл бұрын
His ape is gone.
@Noxedwin
8 күн бұрын
In (roughly) the words of the author of _Cyanide & Happiness:_ "Cryptobros losing things is way funnier than anything I could write."
@trancepeirce3107
2 жыл бұрын
How did the nft get "stolen"? Like, someone accessed his account transferred it?
@erricyeh8446
2 жыл бұрын
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2 жыл бұрын
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2 жыл бұрын
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2 жыл бұрын
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2 жыл бұрын
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2 жыл бұрын
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@Peterpeterpumpkineater1000
2 жыл бұрын
This is a perfect example of a con of crypto/NFT in general. Someone can take it and you wont be able to find them just by the nature of crypto/nft anonymity
@cynthiaheidler
2 жыл бұрын
Bitcoin is the future, Investing in it now will be the wisest thing to do especially with the current rise
@AndreaReinhold75
2 жыл бұрын
It's nice to hear people discuss about investment, because investment always beat cash.
@HeavyMetalMouse
2 жыл бұрын
So, let's assume that the original licensing contract attached to the token specifically says that the rights to exploit the image as IP transfer with the token, and that the initial buyer has to agree not only that if they transfer the token at a later date that they transfer the rights, but also do so under the same conditions somehow, in perpetuity, no matter how many times the token is transfer... that, in and of itself, is a tangled *mess* of contract law that may or may not actually be legal, but fine, let's say that it magically works somehow. He loses his ape, he loses the right to exploit the IP, that's pretty clear black and white. Okay then... so let's take a step back. What would have happened if the ape *hadn't* been stolen? He makes the show, and then at some later date sells the ape token to someone else at a profit. Does the new owner of the token now own *all the work that Seth owned as the original owner* that was based on that ape IP? Does Seth still own the work he made, but now no longer have the right to sell it because it contains IP he doesn't own anymore? If two different people own two different tokens that appear in the show, who has the right to decide if the show can be sold or not, and to whom, and who gets paid if it does? Does every single buyer of the token, throughout all future time, necessarily have to agree to the terms of the original contract of token ownership giving the IP rights, a contract that the new buyer *never originally signed* and in fact *may not even have access to see a copy of when they buy the token*? Does the token being stolen simply void the contract, since the new owner didn't sign onto the license contract (so can't own the IP), but also Set doesn't own the token anymore (so doesn't benefit from the license contract anymore)? If I buy a token without any awareness of any legal contracts associated with it, due to those contracts not being displayed with the process of buying the token, do those contracts still bind both me and the original minter? Since you can't *decline* to have a token sent to you, if you receive a token that has a contract associated with it, and you *don't want* the terms of that contract, what options do you have (particularly if the token has some kind of code in it that prevents you from transferring it except under specific circumstances)? This feels weird.
@adolphgracius9996
2 жыл бұрын
Nfts as we know it is useless, I can't believe people took such an amazing and revolutionary tech such as blockchain And use it to trade freaking Jpegs
@mikehawke2374
2 жыл бұрын
Only bored apes would be interested in this premise. The thief is a hero.
@omar5788
2 жыл бұрын
What if Seth green hired you the great internet detective to find the scammer that would be a great episode of the nft show
@AndyMush
Жыл бұрын
Imagine if the reason why Rick and Morty was never made as beacause someone stole Morty before it even aired lmao.
@TisGrym
Жыл бұрын
Considering current events we would’ve probably been better off 😅
@OrderofthePipe
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a publicity stunt to me. What do you want to bet Seth ends up replacing the Bored Ape with a different one, or maybe even a Vee Friend as some brave middle finger to those terrible “hackers & scammers”?
@DragoNate
2 жыл бұрын
"idk why people are laughing here because the show is made possible because of ip" interesting. not the response i expected from you. +1
@digitalsolutionsmedia
2 жыл бұрын
Always the best news! Thanks coffe
@hiugo
2 жыл бұрын
It’s easy to maintain an KZitem channel when the jokes made themselves 😂
@darrenturner3534
2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who says that they have "Top men" on a job absolutely DO NOT.
@stefamarz
2 жыл бұрын
My Stoopid Friend: Some thief stole my jpeg. Me: "No problemo." I have it backed up on my Google Drive.
@PR-ot7qd
2 жыл бұрын
This is truly the future of entertainment
@CalopsitaVanderbilt1911
2 жыл бұрын
When the drama and beef built around it is more important as the annoying show.
@jeffredfern3744
2 жыл бұрын
Just make more Robot Chicken. That's all we want, Seth.
@BBWahoo
2 жыл бұрын
Seth: You got it! Here are Robot ChickeNFT's
@watchvidjedi
2 жыл бұрын
I'd speak to Legal Eagle about this... turns out if you sell an NFT you might not be selling the value... if it's stolen seems like the same. Original owner owns the money making magic from these internet jpgs, but once sold, you may well be just the owner of 1s and 0s with 0 value
@epiccollision
2 жыл бұрын
He would tell you there is no copyright.
@codycast
2 жыл бұрын
Why do half of these comments mention “legal Eagle“? Is he the worldwide authority of all lawyers according to people who comment on KZitem or something?
@whatinyourworld
2 жыл бұрын
@@codycast I think NFTs are dumb, but his video explaining *potential* issues they have is being taken as settled fact by too many people.
@watchvidjedi
2 жыл бұрын
@@codycast no. He's not. But he is a Real lawyer who isn't just a keyboard warrior. It's Legal Eagle and he's way more qualified than both of us combined. He tells us about Real Laws n stuff... but scoff all you want without doing a mere YT search nevermind a Google search.
@Demon.888
2 жыл бұрын
I just sold 6 of my 1's and 0's and made a profit of $1200; I don't know what your definition of "value" is.
@teirdalin
2 жыл бұрын
Thank god this garbage might get cancelled.
@AbdulForexInvesting
2 жыл бұрын
Gary vee really played a mastermind here.. The dude got popular by exposing gurus that sell courses. He then ended up selling his conferences, books and now NFT's which is making him banks.. He played the role of being an authentic man but ended as charlatan. Not to mention he uses so many curse words to sound cool which I think is really old now and is rejected by people
@snooganslestat2030
2 жыл бұрын
If it was me I'd take this as a lesson learnt.
@MarcusCarey
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you did a video on this.
@ccash3290
2 жыл бұрын
The thing about NFT copyright is the only entity that can enforce copyright is the government He's lucky to have a central authority to regulate copyright because now he can just ask them to maintain his copyright
@tomasg920
2 жыл бұрын
no, the copyright is with the owner, and he doesn't own it anymore. that's the whole point of NFTs (and one of the reasons they are so stupid)
@digitalzushi
2 жыл бұрын
@@tomasg920 correct me if I'm wrong here, but Bored Ape are generated via AI and it's already been established that AI generated art is not copyrightable. There's nothing, afaik, that would stop him from animated any of the Bored Apes under that law.
@epiccollision
2 жыл бұрын
@@digitalzushi this is the only and correct answer
@epiccollision
2 жыл бұрын
@@tomasg920 the computer that made it is the owner? Now next step is?
@ccash3290
2 жыл бұрын
@@tomasg920 The U.S. government is not going to punish him if he can prove someone stole his NFT copyright
@AriannaEuryaleMusic
2 жыл бұрын
He should just right-click save it when he sees it
@drewo.127
9 ай бұрын
The overall aesthetic of the show (mixed media cartoons in real life) is something I like…but the concept itself, just sounds like a satire of the whole N/F/T thing! If it was meant to be a dark dystopian comedy, like a depressing Who Framed Roger Rabbit series with the main theme being that N/F/T s are awful, then I might like it. But since it’s the opposite, I’m staying far away from it…if it ever gets made. Which considering the state of these “collectibles” right now…it’s most likely that this show has been canned forever by now!😅
@Megaritz
2 жыл бұрын
This is a fascinating development. What exactly is the legal enforceability status of the “stolen copyright” here? Is this the first ever case of someone being able to steal the actual legal rights to something? Or has it happened before? Or is this *not* what’s going on here? Would the legal status of the stolen NFT copyright be considered equivalent to the legal status of, say, a contract that was really signed but under fraudulent or otherwise nullifying conditions? I urgently want to see Legal Eagle’s take on this, because I have many many questions about what this situation does or doesn’t imply. It may be that existing law and precedent are too ambiguous, and the current situation too new, to enable a clear judgment yet.
@higunner00
2 жыл бұрын
None. The image is computer generated. There's already a decision that only HUMANS can create copyrighted material.
@JShdwstar
2 жыл бұрын
@@higunner00 But someone created the computer program that created that image. That makes it a piracy case.
@higunner00
2 жыл бұрын
@@JShdwstar nope, unless you are copyrighting the software, which you cannot because they are open source. The decision was clear, art and things created by humans can be copyrighted, machine made cannot, evening they put together elements created by a human in a new form.
@crowdemon_archives
2 жыл бұрын
@@higunner00 so you have to trace back hard enough to find the original artist of the Bored Ape then, assume there's someone who slammed the templates together.
@higunner00
2 жыл бұрын
@@crowdemon_archives sure, you just would have to individually copyright every item, pay the fee (per copyright petition), redact the reasons why the copyright is valid, hope the court determines there's enough creativity in each individual item to be copyright-viable, get the determination of the court of the valid ones and then wait a couple years before being able to sue anyone. A straight forward process really
@AllCrypto
2 жыл бұрын
You sir, inspired me to start my KZitem journey. Thank you 😊
@Sound557
2 жыл бұрын
Just when I thought that Seth Green couldn't make anything worse than recent Robot Chicken
@alexarias6398
2 жыл бұрын
Please help me, I got scammed by SteveWillDoIt, I don’t know what to do anymore. I have actual proof of everything. Please I need help, I now apparently have detectives coming and knocking on my front door
@SoulXample
2 жыл бұрын
Well if he just moves ahead with the show anyway then the new “owner” can reveal themselves to claim compensation 😉
@snooganslestat2030
2 жыл бұрын
Shame he didn't have the means to stop it being stolen lmao
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