There's one obvious thing here. Nicola knew the area well, walked the route everyday, knew the steepness of the slope, how dangerous the water is. This is familiar terriority for her. If this was the case why would she stand anywhere close to the waters edge? It utterly makes no sense and is unlikely that she would do that
@bfb187
Жыл бұрын
Not sure knowing a place means you won’t fall victim to an accident ever. Trying to put the harness on and falling over, having a medical issue and falling, slipping trying to pick something up…. Plenty of reasons she could have fell, the bench is right next to the river, one bad step you could fall. Not particularly sold on it but just because you go somewhere doesn’t mean you can’t underestimate it or have an accident there.
@FreyaTheNorse
Жыл бұрын
I thought the same I live right by a park where I walk my dogs next to the river Thames and some of the riverbanks are simular to the one where Nicola was last seen and you tend to know to stand back. I don't believe she fell in.
@savinabees9220
Жыл бұрын
I agree...the water makes little sense.
@bobbobby9798
Жыл бұрын
The bench is the clue, it's a nice place to sit and has been for many years.
@juanitarichards1074
Жыл бұрын
I once fell in a river when I went close to the edge to feed the ducks. It was a very steep slope and I couldn't pull myself up. Luckily a man came along and helped pull me up and over the bank. In Nicola's case it may have been something to do with the dog, perhaps she went too close and Nicola had to pull her back. Nicola may have dropped something near the edge. We have seen pics of Nicola and her partner standing right at the edge of the river, many of them......she could have just lost her footing.
@PJ-vj4jb
Жыл бұрын
There are some very strange things about this case I agree. Having worked in various investigative roles for over 25yrs I can say that there is a media policy and investigative policy. The investigative policy won't be disclosed to the public particularly if there is the potential of vigilantes running around breaking into empty properties and caravans. The location of the bench should have been fully forensically examined along with the harness, dog lead and mobile phone. This may well have occurred along with a CSI search and POLSA search teams. If this hasn't occurred, which the Police have no obligation to report to the media or public then it is a neglect of duty and will come to light eventually. I can't find anything in relation to the Fitbit tracker which people seem to be missing...I do recall reading that it was updated a few days after her disappearance...this could be very relevant as would it have updated if she was in a river? If there are indeed 40 Detectives working on this case then all CCTV in the surrounding area should have been recovered immediately, both prior to the event and following..this could be done by 2 detectives in a couple of days. No detectives have been searching the river as they are separate units. The rather strange Superintendent stated there are 40 Detectives working the case which is normal. That is far from normal for a missing person who has fallen in the river, you'd be lucky to have two detectives working on it in my experience. If they do have a large team working on which I would suggest they do by know you'll have telecoms investigators tracking the movements of her phone. Along with financial investigators looking into card usage and data as well as looking into the family's financial situation and medical records. The SIO should have identified themselves by now and the hypothesis theory clarified, however if it suggests a third party involvement they may not disclose this. The possible suspects/abductors if they exist could be under surveillance to identify her location. Over and out!!!
@sean6977
Жыл бұрын
How many kidnaps/ abductions have happened in the UK and not only that highlighted on TV with a show on channel 5 to warn the public. None that's why, either water theory or she has done a runner with family maybe in the know. Why haven't others in the area not gone missing???? It's more like a reality TV show case.
@leehoward8570
Жыл бұрын
@@sean6977 People don't get kidnapped from the same spot everyday otherwise they would get caught. Are you stupid. It's quite obvious it was a kidnapping wouldn't you say from the evidence? Or are you think AF.
@PJ-vj4jb
Жыл бұрын
@@sean6977 Hi Sean I did send a reply but its been deleted by the YT Police, seems they are more efficient than the actual Police.
@PJ-vj4jb
Жыл бұрын
@@Black-Circle Black circle with the uroboros satanic symbol, any reason for that?
@sewsed
Жыл бұрын
Why are they deleting comments? There is something sooooo fishy going on with this case!!!!
@peacewillow
Жыл бұрын
please stay on this case until nicola is found. your channel is one of the few following it, and i really appreciate you doing so. no, i do not believe she fell in the river, and i'm getting a little tired of police making assumptions without any evidence. sending prayers of strength to nicola's family and friends. 💕
@CrimeScene2Courtroom
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Willow 👌🏻
@angelblueeyes2339
Жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏❤
@seansrecords
Жыл бұрын
the police may be pushing that narrative on purpose to stop any possible person of interest from panicking and destroying evidence ... there s a long way to go yet , it will all become clear eventually - i hope ! it s very sad puzzling case though . i think she has been abducted . most likely by someone local . my main feeling is just sadness for her kids
@fishandchips1762
Жыл бұрын
by peacewillow and look for other missing people.
@ax3226
Жыл бұрын
@@angelblueeyes2339 Jesus was a Middle Eastern man, Born in Judea, Current day West Bank Palestine. He wasn’t white, blue eyed, blonde haired.
@dawnnicholson9675
Жыл бұрын
The police have wasted so much precious time! Nicola could be miles away now. Pray she is found alive. 🙏🙏
@woowah32
Жыл бұрын
Praying won’t do anything, but whatever makes you feel better👍🏻
@Manc_banter.84
Жыл бұрын
@wooah your a fucking plant pot you strolling down commenting on everyone’s get a fucking life you pervert
@woowah32
Жыл бұрын
@@Manc_banter.84 Wow, what an utter melt you must be to comment like that??What are you particular special needs? Do you get help online? Seems like your online activity probably should be monitored for the safety of kids..🤷🏻♂️ Or is your head like your channel? No content ..
@Manc_banter.84
Жыл бұрын
@@woowah32 nah I’ve just seen you commenting on everyone’s shit. Fuck all better to do, I have no content because am out making money so I don’t give 2 fucks about content I’ve got your card sat chatting shit to everyone your a lonely little pervert! No friends been bullied all your life. And on the child sex offender register beat your partner up type a smelly cunt. Now fuck off you boring silly sad sad pathetic little man and get the fuck off everyone status’s you scummy piece off shit haha 😂
@woowah32
Жыл бұрын
@@Manc_banter.84 wow hun, I’ve obviously triggered you? Such easy bait, but then I’m guessing you’re not the brightest spark are you? Are you lonely or just have anger issues? I still can’t quite agree with your skull having any content .. Silly little sausage😘🤣
@FreyaTheNorse
Жыл бұрын
When I walk my dogs I tend to not only go a different way each time and at different times I also share my location live with my partner just in case I go missing. I've done that for the past few years and I would suggest others do the same share your location live with someone because in this world you just never know. And this case shows that
@laetitialogan2017
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree..its a dangerous world out there for women..especially in isolated areas..
@skrrttz
Жыл бұрын
You should go different ways anyway, keep things exciting for you and the dog
@Mangraper
Жыл бұрын
“Those who give up freedoms for security will find neither” quote from a wise old man whose name escapes me.
@belleboucles3646
Жыл бұрын
Really good suggestion.
@mikeyyoyo6464
Жыл бұрын
Wonderful time to be alive ain’t it 🙈
@sallywillis610
Жыл бұрын
It almost seems obvious that she was snatched and that's why those items are there, dog, harness, not switched off call on phone, loose dog. There are bushes just behind the bench where someone could have hidden for when she came back to it. If the snatcher had a weapon she would have been completely controlled. Apologies to the family and friends for these upsetting thoughts.
@john-martinprobert2336
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I thought the conclusion Lancashire Police came to at that press conference was peculiar under the circumstances. She knows the terrain, her phone being there etc etc.
@Fred-rj3er
Жыл бұрын
@@steveblundell7766 You use the term "middle aged" as if that makes her unattractive to a kidnapper? Pretty sure if she had a knife or gun put to her throat she would have gone along with whatever she was told. Our first instinct is to survive for as long as possible. That probably includes not screaming. Indeed just after schools start up is a really quiet time. Not sure there would have been anyone to hear her.
@karlbroderickmusic
Жыл бұрын
If there's any cctv footage, won't it show someone around, who had opportunity to place the items on the bench? So maybe this narrator is right and there's just zero footage of anyone.
@stuartyaxley5308
Жыл бұрын
What I don't understand is why are the police so adamant that she fell in the river when there is absolutely no evidence that she went in
@theturtleproject
Жыл бұрын
seems like distraction to me
@user-xq1eo6wi9r
Жыл бұрын
Because they messed up and it's easier to keep going with the river theory than admitting they are wrong
@nosoul4233
Жыл бұрын
Police cover up for something strange
@bfb187
Жыл бұрын
Not sure they are that adamant. The first statement was bad but people have run with it since and the media are constantly talking about the river and showing footage. This video shows they aren’t just looking at that theory and haven’t been. There’s been loads of press conferences where they’ve spoken about witnesses, cctv, motorists…
@user-xq1eo6wi9r
Жыл бұрын
@@bfb187 No they didn't start doing that till they got public backlash and the diver guy got involved. They have been adamant since day one she's in that river and ruined any potential evidence of a crime. Why are you defending police incompetence?
@geoffjoffy
Жыл бұрын
Yes, this whole case is very very weird. The disappearance yes but the police's actions are also hard to understand. You made some great points, thanks.
@gerrycastlemanwarde5933
Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking the cops messed up with blinkers on!
@LWalks64
Жыл бұрын
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼prayers for Nicola and her family from Ohio, USA.
@jonnydepp8596
Жыл бұрын
To be honest I work in small villages. Someone not from there walking down the street is classed as suspicious 💁
@amo2464
Жыл бұрын
I'm assuming the places you're familiar with have zero tourist industry?
@GSpinner69
Жыл бұрын
From the first moment I heard about this and the phone being where it was, I always felt a crime had been committed, The police were so focused on the idea she went into the water that they failed to see anything else that may have happened, when all this comes out, heads will roll. I doubt she even sat on the bench, have the police checked through the Fitbit if she generally sat on the bench.
@vallee3140
Жыл бұрын
They have checked the fitbit, but not said if they found anything
@adean4146
Жыл бұрын
you only see what they want you too.....
@wonderer9498
Жыл бұрын
You are utterly thick as shite if yiu think the police is just focusing on the river ffs. Police don't work like youtube when investigating. You don't tell people what you are doing unlike the gluepot that makes these stupid videos witch do nothing more than potentially put the woman in question more at risk
@ron6096
Жыл бұрын
Pack it in. You haven’t a clue what lines of police investigation are taking place. They have no obligation as to disclosing their exact lines of enquiry and quite rightly do not. On personal experience, the public have put many Misperception/Murder inquiries back due to false claims/scare mongering/conspiracy theories etc. let the police do their job and don’t come up with such twaddle
@beasmith1
Жыл бұрын
Can I just say, from the 2 videos of yours I have seen, it's really good to see that you are covering this without throwing about wild conspiracy theories & accusations towards her loved ones, like a few videos I have seen on YT. Some of them are really darn awful.
@CrimeScene2Courtroom
Жыл бұрын
Cheers Cazzy, appreciated 👌🏻👌🏻
@amo2464
Жыл бұрын
I agree. There's a Dutch woman who makes videos about this case and she had made all kinds of reckless and irresponsible comments
@beasmith1
Жыл бұрын
@@amo2464 Just no need for it is there. The boyfriend was the first suspect, which is the norm & he understood, & they ruled him out. I even hear rubbish about the sister. I mean really....
@williambarney6670
Жыл бұрын
@@beasmith1 it would be reckless not to scrutinise the family as most murders are committed by partners
@beasmith1
Жыл бұрын
@@williambarney6670 Yep true, & her partner even said that the other night so he understood why they checked him out first.
@pobinr
Жыл бұрын
I'm appalled at the police. They've have wasted two weeks on their far fetched theory that she, a strong swimmer, fell into an almost stationary waste deep river & drowned 🤔 Where do they get cops from these days? 🙄 Plus as you say the main entrance & exit she always used has no camera. So why did the cops make a big deal out of most other exits having cameras🤔🙄
@Baglady111
Жыл бұрын
Agree
@kualabear
Жыл бұрын
It’s possible that they are being tactical by inviting public ire toward themselves. Any talk of incompetence due to their focus on the river is possibly in the hope that her abductors lower their guard after gaining a false sense of security and superiority over the investigation.
@chrisnieto5547
Жыл бұрын
@@kualabear please don’t give them that credit. They have fcked this up.
@Jestersson
Жыл бұрын
Have to remember this is a difficult and very complex case. Lack of cameras, witnesses and very little to go on. We don’t know what the police have or investigating right now either. I’d like to know when the witnesses came forward about the red van and now 2 men. If they were reported instantly why wasn’t that looked into earlier? Either the police are on to something and aren’t saying or they’ve made a monumental F up.
@chrisnieto5547
Жыл бұрын
@@Jestersson I’d go with the latter. Within 24 hours of a pretty young girl disappearing, I’d have hoped ( and still do) that every local criminal and especially sex offender was visited and spoken to . If not happy a search warrant for their property issued. Then I’d start knocking on doors of every unattached male between ages of 18 and 60 within 20 miles. After that I’d start on the next most likely group. I would also be talking intensely to the woman that was first on the scene especially if she was the one who had made earlier threats to the lady. If this was my daughter, I would want all man hours diverted to these things and to stop searching that damn river and now the sea because she’s not there.
@gojo2194
Жыл бұрын
Lots of red in relation to this case. Red garage, red rescue team, red vans, red flags, red herrings...
@donnapoole4465
Жыл бұрын
I walk my dog every day, I know safe places, I stay safe, I never take my dogs harness off ever on a walk, my phone is always in my pocket, it’s a sad case and I think she’s been taken. My thoughts.
@TammeraFreno
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, if she did what you do, and IF she fell in by accident she would've fallen in with her phn in her pocket.
@kitana4753
Жыл бұрын
Whoever abducted Nicola was well planned out, it did not just happen, this was pre meditated, the person knew her routine and the area.
@onelifeoneloveonedream1658
Жыл бұрын
In this case, who want her to be disappeared? And why?
@Baglady111
Жыл бұрын
@@onelifeoneloveonedream1658 who knows why! There’s plenty of loonies out there, sadly.
@Rocket_Queen_Australia
Жыл бұрын
IF she was abducted. Maybe she just left.
@argonaut6386
Жыл бұрын
Seems a long distance from anywhere to be taken against her will without someone noticing though. The main road is very busy and it sounds like it's a popular place for other dog walkers. Also you'd have thought the dog would have been trying to follow or making its way to that area.
@Rocket_Queen_Australia
Жыл бұрын
@@argonaut6386 and if she was on a meeting, why was her phone on the bench and not in her hand?
@louisedarroch5301
Жыл бұрын
What I don’t understand is that Nicola shared her routine walk and exact route on the web for everyone to see and yet this has never been mentioned or even considered as information that may have made this tragic situation premeditated.
@grose2272
Жыл бұрын
Really, there seems to be alot only coming out now! Also there was two other simular cases close by- two men dispeared- left phone and belongings along the banks- one case was just in Dec 22! These cases all linked because of the way their belongings were found!
@louisedarroch5301
Жыл бұрын
If this is true then there are a lot of questions the police need to answer……
@conhand.3578
Жыл бұрын
Yes it has. Move on.
@user-xq1eo6wi9r
Жыл бұрын
@@conhand.3578 no it hasn't
@mervmervalot2296
Жыл бұрын
That's a brilliant evaluation!!!
@lggal4264
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’ve been so upset about this case since day one. Police fumbled and everyone followed. She’s a strong swimmer and she’s smart. I hope she’s found safe and soon, but I’m very worried.
@woowah32
Жыл бұрын
Do you know her personally?
@jewelssunsun9450
Жыл бұрын
@@woowah32 does that matter?
@skrrttz
Жыл бұрын
No seriously do you know her personally?
@woowah32
Жыл бұрын
@@jewelssunsun9450 Sorry, was that question at you? No, didn’t think so.
@JamesCM86
Жыл бұрын
@@woowah32 doesn’t matter who it was directed at, it was a STUPID question.
@2tonytheonenonly485
Жыл бұрын
Something stinks about this case or is it just me ?
@Pixie.Little
Жыл бұрын
I can't smell you so it must be this case that stinks 🤔🤗 just having a bit of fun sorry...couldn't resist. Yes it's foul play IMO
@annasutton8078
Жыл бұрын
You would hardly go willingly with a stranger. Maybe if it was an abduction, she heard crys for help or shouts and went to look. A dog would bark at strangers if they were trying to take their owner,unless it knew the person. Was the CCTV broken/damaged on purpose. Its made me think about my safety on my dog walks.
@immers2410
Жыл бұрын
Pepper spray should be legal
@TeresaJ-rw3uw
Жыл бұрын
The one CCTV that wasn't working was the first thing that drew my attention. We often find out from other solved cases that a particular CCTV camera had been tampered with, making it dysfunctional. I wondered why that CCTV camera only got a bare mention. For me, the fact that it was the only camera that wasn't working rang alarm bells.
@markscouler2534
Жыл бұрын
But the same thing would happen if she went into the river she would be shouting and screaming
@lauraking422
Жыл бұрын
People need to partner up when walking, it's not worth going alone, these are crazy times.
@conhand.3578
Жыл бұрын
Lol. 🤦🤦♂🤦♀
@vindaloo4489
Жыл бұрын
@@conhand.3578lol ???
@yobeatthat85
Жыл бұрын
Ok so imagine these two have kidnapped her and done something horrible, now if they are, say, refugees or illegal immigrants and the police know then this would give them reason to go with the 'fell into the river' theory otherwise it would be a PR disaster for the government and potential to cause rioting on the streets and attacks on refugee hostels like we seen in Liverpool. I'm not anti-immigration but I'm just putting an idea across. Don't attack me for suggesting this but there is reason to have this covered up and Nicola could be the sacrificial lamb in order to keep the peace on the streets. Also the authorities have previous on keeping these crimes by legal/illegal immigrants covered up. An example is the Rotherham child sex exploitation ring.
@markcoyle5648
Жыл бұрын
Crossed my mind also.
@truthsearcher596
Жыл бұрын
I agree, but also look at serving police officers, especially after recent PR police service disasters, Couzens and Carrick etc.
@yobeatthat85
Жыл бұрын
After watching the video something interesting popped up......'wyreside farm caravan park' I know for a fact that farmers for years have employed migrant workers to 'do the jobs lazy brits won't do' (bollocks by the way) like fruit and veg picking, they also put them up on their land in caravans, they get subsidies from the EU if they do.....if the demographic of that particular caravan park is mostly migrant workers then it feeds into the theory of my first comment. I wonder if anyone can dig out the facts on that caravan park?? It's too much of a coincidence if it is filled with migrant workers. Potentially with unchecked criminal histories.
@lorettarebelo5395
Жыл бұрын
Let us all pray for her safe return,please trust in the Lord
@thirstybonsai1888
Жыл бұрын
Please no religious stuff. God isn’t real
@lorettarebelo5395
Жыл бұрын
@@thirstybonsai1888make a sensible comment
@ka_4734
Жыл бұрын
We all handle grief differently but I'm sorry the husband doesn't seem "distraught" . It doesn't mean he's guilty of her disappearance just something don't add up with him
@conhand.3578
Жыл бұрын
🤡
@conhand.3578
Жыл бұрын
Slandering pillock.
@ka_4734
Жыл бұрын
@Conhan in a situation like this it's not unreasonable to think she has been taken by someone who knows her. It's usually the case. At this point it's unlikely she fell in the water.
@ibike825
Жыл бұрын
They weren’t married! Yeah I agree something doesn’t add up with him, yeah it could be that this is his way of coping with the situation but I found his interview quite odd, a bit off … in his very first interview he even giggled and later on he called the daughters “ those girls “ very strange way of words for someone that is your closest family member. Not sure what to think anymore but one thing I’m sure of she’s not in the river! It’s actually embarrassing the police kept on and in with the falling into the river narrative!
@geordiewishart1683
Жыл бұрын
"Suspicious" doesn't mean anything . More often than not, people use it to describe other people they don't know, don't recognise or haven't seen before. So perhaps these people were simply visitors to the area
@billwellington4339
Жыл бұрын
Or they could be the reason she went missing....
@c3bam1
Жыл бұрын
That’s exactly my sentiment, suspicious doesn’t mean jack, that’s just an opinion of someone. I reckon this lady has planned her own disappearance! Obviously with someone else, maybe took a small dinghy up stream or down stream to another location got out and simply walked away. Police needs to start checking her bank details, see if she’s been depositing money in a foreign country! Maybe she had a secret relationship going and decided to move to another country. People walk away from their families and disappear all the time!
@geordiewishart1683
Жыл бұрын
I remember reading about a court case involving a murder years ago. Known drinker is stabbed in his house. A neighbour had seen another drinker, a friend of the deceased, leave the house at the relevant time but he didn't tell police that. It ended up that this friend had killed him over a silly drunken squabble. It came out in evidence that police went door to door, asking people if they had seen any suspicious people or suspicious activity. The witness didn't consider this man suspicious as he knew him to see from the area. That's why he hadn't mentioned him.
@mariondoyle9549
Жыл бұрын
Yes thay could be visiting some one
@rosieblack2076
Жыл бұрын
If they were visitors to the area, who were they visiting and were did they stay? That walk does not seem to be very well known except to locals, they did not appear to have called into petrol station for food drinks etc or even fuel for car/van, two men seen together unknown to locals , walking about areas known mostly to locals , without a dog, why what was the attraction and why have they not come forward to explain who they are and what they were doing that day?
@jasonobrien1989
Жыл бұрын
The Police acted so weirdly in this case - reminds me of the McCann case...
@markterrin8673
Жыл бұрын
Exactly... so sad
@janettinkler2204
Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly, just like the madeleine McCann case
@FredericFreedom
Жыл бұрын
@@luisburge1136 exactly
@markterrin8673
Жыл бұрын
I think the family should find/hire a private detective as the police will stick to the initial and the only option the river
@louisecruz2173
Жыл бұрын
Yes it reminds me of the gabby pertitio case in America when her boyfriend Brian laundry disappeared they spent weeks looking for him was very odd !!!!and this is also very odd !!!!
@rs2klee
Жыл бұрын
My thoughts, The start and end of her walk is right at the road and looks like just meters away. A van and 2 men at least plotted to take her. They have been following her tracks and on a school run things are always near enough timed by the minute. The 2 that seem to be looking suspicious are planning and making sure she does the same thing over and over, they probably been doing this all week and know where shes going to be at a given time. People have phones and ear pieces so communication is easy, one drives the van the other grabs. Did anyone on that road witness at any time a van stopping at that entrance and exit as it would be done in seconds at the start and end of her walk ? From the looks of it that road is not that busy so there is an open window of time. Perhaps there were a third, a driver, grabber then someone to place the phone back onto the bench then casually gets picked up a little later ? I think from the start 100% not Anything to do with falling in the water, that was made to think that. As always... cheeRS
@SurvivorofHorror
Жыл бұрын
The only thing that comes to mind when I think about this, is that people who do this often act alone unless it is a kidnapping for financial gain.
@freebeing0858
Жыл бұрын
My own thoughts exactly. A very well rationalised hypothesis. The only other thing I would say, in response to the criticism of the police, is I believe the police might have the same hypothesis, but do not want to alert any possible abductor(s). So by promoting the drowning hypothesis, knowing there is no CCTV footage of what they suspect was the abduction point, they are giving themselves time to gather further car cam footage, garage footage, etc, but are lulling any suspected abductors into a false sense of security, by publicly stating that they don't believe she was abducted.
@katla2670
Жыл бұрын
And what would be the motive? If that was well planned attack there must be some strong reason for that. More then one abductor with van? They could have picked up any women walking alone along the road.
@m1586
Жыл бұрын
@rs2klee. It's also strange that someone would prey on a middle aged woman instead of a younger person. Especially as the victim is not famous. I sincerely hope she will be back with her family soon.😎
@SurvivorofHorror
Жыл бұрын
@@m1586 if this is an abduction it makes no more sense than the theory that Nicola fell into the river. It doesn't match the profile of a person that would do something like this. The chances of it being an elaborate and well thought out plan for no financial gain just doesn't make sense to me. I cannot help but think that something mysterious is lurking in the background of this tragic disappearance.
@StellaChristelle
Жыл бұрын
The police response has been baffling from the start. At this point I can only think it’s a question of ego. Thus they are doubling down. It’s quite ridiculous.
@angelawatson7740
Жыл бұрын
The Police response hasn't been baffling . They treated it exactly how it should have been .
@missrockafella9432
Жыл бұрын
I have a family member who has worked for the police (not the police who are looking for Nicola) and they said yesterday when we were discussing this tragic case that the police always keep certain facts to themselves. I had heard this before as well. Although no one, as far as we know, saw what happened to Nicola it is possible they heard something which is why the police have been following the action they have.
@Baglady111
Жыл бұрын
I think everyone knows the police always keep some things back, and they understand why that has to happen, but I don’t think that’s why they’re receiving criticism. It’s because of how quickly they decided it was a drowning without any actual evidence of drowning, and also to say that on day 1 proves they did not consider any other theories properly. They didn’t even cordon off the bench area which of course was a massive mistake in hindsight. They should have known better. It’s all very sad because if she has been abducted, the assailant/s now have a two week head start as the police were too busy wasting time on the river rather than investigating a crime. Prayers for Nicola.
@chrisnieto5547
Жыл бұрын
You do not keep the fact that a person may have been abducted quiet. The public are the police’s eyes and ears. This is an excuse being made up by police apologists.
@beaudacious_10
Жыл бұрын
@@chrisnieto5547 probably don’t cause a panic if there’s no evidence otherwise, either. If there’s no evidence of abduction, why should they come out and say it’s likely or probable. They gave their view but always kept the options open. We are not privy to everything they did to look into the other options - like a crime scene - but we do know they have continued to check other possibilities while also thoroughly checking the river. I’m not a fan of police, but there are so many things we don’t know that everyone is assuming. Now weeks later we can see it appears very unlikely she fell into the river, but at the start, it would seem very unlikely she was abducted with no evidence at all that we know of pointing to it. Think of how unlikely it would be. There seems to be at most a 30minute window but probably less for her to be approached, and taken, with no cameras or witnesses, and the dog controlled. It’s only the more time that goes on that it becomes more likely as the other theories become less. Police never ruled out other options, it’s youtubers coming out and being confused thinking they deserve to be told everything that are saying the police only had one theory. They always said it’s their main theory but not the only one and they have shown this with their actions. Of course people coming to watch true crime videos will assume everything is foul play, but police encounter situations all the time that look like that but end up being something else. They know the probabilities better. They can be incompetent but have to realise all the non crimes that happen we never hear about because they weren’t crimes, that look very similar to many of these disappearance situations that police see all the time so they definitely have a different perspective on likelihood. I do however think they assume the best a little too often but I think it’s because it’s often the case in their experience. Accidents, or disappearances which end up being people just leaving but we only hear about it when it occasionally ends in them not being found later or popping up somewhere.
@dogbastardly6101
Жыл бұрын
@@beaudacious_10 If they kept all options open, then why did they fail to secure the area surrounding the bench as crime scene? Moreover, why did the police explicitly state in that first press conference that they had discounted the idea of third party involvement, and that the circumstances were not suspicious? If it turns out that she has been abducted, and they find the abductors, would the evidence in the area of the bench still be admissible as evidence given that the public and journalists have been allowed to traipse all over that area? It seems to me that they jumped to one conclusion very quickly, became fixated with that, and were too quick to disregard other hypotheses.
@chrisnieto5547
Жыл бұрын
@@beaudacious_10 But they were causing panic to the family by saying she’d died in the river…..and she’s not in there….experts have said that. And if there is a murderer at large , I don’t give a shit how much panic it causes, the public need to know and be wary. If she may have been kidnapped they need to make appeals to public to report any suspicious behaviour by neighbours etc. and lastly an appeal to kidnappers to see reason and just let her go. I have seen this dozens of times in previous case. People need to stop trying to justify this appalling police work where not even the crime scene was sealed off and any evidence has now been tainted.
@TheJungleBriton
Жыл бұрын
I'm so angry this is such a completely bungled police operation almost certainly sealing the fate of this poor woman absolutely bungled. Of course this is an abduction, it always was an abduction a planned abduction and the police have just been wasting time.
@bfb187
Жыл бұрын
The police haven’t just been at the river you know. They’ve been going through cctv, appealing for witnesses, chasing up leads. She’s had more police involved than lot of cases do. There’s people been missing years who’ve never had this amount of officers working or resources spent. Sad truth is, if someone decided to abduct and kill someone then they’ll do it. No amount of police investigating it after will stop that.
@jeffjones3040
Жыл бұрын
@@neilgoodyer9606 ....They have no proof or her falling in the river and not being able to get out. Yet the cops seemed sure of that! So...?
@geoffjoffy
Жыл бұрын
Well said, Shakin'.
@markterrin8673
Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you.
@TheJungleBriton
Жыл бұрын
@@neilgoodyer9606 Neil, good call. No I have no proof, no more than the police have proof of their river theory. I will be very happy indeed to be proved wrong, but I doubt it.
@discoveryman59
Жыл бұрын
Today a man standing within 200 yards of a women is considered suspicious behavior..
@valansley
Жыл бұрын
Maybe it was a woman???
@ArchnaKapur
Жыл бұрын
Since when was the broken cctv camera been broken.? It might have been tampered with to make this disappearance happen
@rs2klee
Жыл бұрын
The 2 dodgy men that have been mentioned would have cased the whole place and put out any cameras that would look over the path where she would walk, its all pre planned way in advance. How often so people check the cctv is working or at least recording now days.
@ErictheRedCantona
Жыл бұрын
It is incompetent police. The superintendent comes across as hapless. There are a lot of very senior ex cops coming out and criticising the approach but doesn’t appear to have changed the approach. Great video analysis.
@LynneShean-gs6ml
Жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh, thank you for all your hard work on this. As you always say, cheers 🥃
@lisagilbert6265
Жыл бұрын
Of COURSE it's criminal...the dog was dry she didn't go into the river ...she is not home with her children where she should be. Police should pull out their fingers n investigate correctly. Outrageous ...Where IS SHE!!!!
@EWAMILENAP
Жыл бұрын
It's important to look into the clients of this mortgage adviser. Also, her partner has a chance to shut down all speculations by taking a lie detector test.
@celtspeaksgoth7251
Жыл бұрын
So she's a clerk in an office. She's not in high finance.
@Baglady111
Жыл бұрын
Paul said in his interview that he’d offered to do anything the police needed him to do to be cleared.
@31Alden
Жыл бұрын
@@celtspeaksgoth7251And …… this has something to do with ….. what exactly?
@fatbelly27
Жыл бұрын
@@celtspeaksgoth7251 works from home
@outfromtheshadows
Жыл бұрын
@@Baglady111 Chris Watts agreed to a lie detector test. Just saying.
@andreagascoigne6735
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget that there is at least one person who saw Nicola walking the dog that morning - in the lower field ? - so it seems she was somewhere within the vicinity that the police have been searching.
@StellaChristelle
Жыл бұрын
Oh true, I thought about that. So unless there is a Nicola look alike, she was indeed there.
@agnieszkamaria
Жыл бұрын
For sure not alike since there were witnesses talking to her I think? They knew each other. I'm a bit puzzled by this video not taking witnesses testimony into consideration at all....
@paulcrombie9623
Жыл бұрын
Maybe they need to get a proper police investigation team in, Maybe with experienced investigators in cases like this?
@elizabethannegrey6285
Жыл бұрын
Once again an excellent video. As an armchair expert my view is that the senior police charged with this investigation have failed dismally. It is, let’s face it, an utter shambles of normal procedures not implemented. The officers lower down the chain are undoubtedly doing their best, but without skilled management it must be pretty disheartening.
@celtspeaksgoth7251
Жыл бұрын
Tony Blair wanted to bring over senior US police as the lamentable state of our constabularies was clear even in his day. Also detective skills have disappeared as veterans retire and their successors lack the mental stamina to lead a case or to analyse or be forensic.
@lesliecurran1704
Жыл бұрын
Is it possible on the other hand that they are keeping certain things to themselves and not making them public?. I know the incident in Idaho, everybody thought they were being incompetent and then within a few weeks they had their guy or at least what we truly believe is the guy that did it.
@Foxtrottangoabc
Жыл бұрын
The police have said they are working on the river theory , possibly to themselves and nicola some time if a possible abductor is involved. The police said very early on they had 40 detectives on the case not including policeman or other search rescue services . That 40 is a huge number for a missing person
@Dee-dee744
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your insights on this case. It has had me really worried Its good that someone is using this platform to discuss and report on this stuff. I appreciate your work. I don't believe she ever, went in that river. My gut tells me she's been a victim of something awful. The police have had me confused from the beginning but I have faith they will figure this all out. My thoughts and prayers are with Nicolas family and friends. Especially her little girls. May God bless them and bring her home. 🙏
@SurvivorofHorror
Жыл бұрын
Regardless of the outcome, there is a lesson to be learned here about advertising your whereabouts and regular routines on social media.
@conhand.3578
Жыл бұрын
You don't even know if this is a crime or an accident, but you blame the victim nonetheless. Imbecile.
@SurvivorofHorror
Жыл бұрын
@@conhand.3578 It is okay to speculate and have an opinion. It is not okay to behave like a bully just because you disagree.
@user-mn5ul9vo9m
Жыл бұрын
I think the use of public social media platforms needs the attention. I am in agreement that publishing location and routine data that can be used to track you down is something that needs specific regulation. It may not be the cause of the issue in this case.
@SurvivorofHorror
Жыл бұрын
@@user-mn5ul9vo9m Definitely. I am not trying to suggest anything other than it made me think about how easy it is for people to be tracked through social media. I hope that the worse case scenario is an accident.
@vickyoliver1738
Жыл бұрын
Yes the area should have had tape put up to stop other people going into the fields ,someone could have been hiding in the bushes if they knew the way she walked ,not sure this has been a very good investigation
@simonbaxter8001
Жыл бұрын
If they can't show she actually started (ONLY the school CCTV would show that based on the lack of CCTv en-route, and that doesn't seem to exist!) or finished her walk ... who says she was actually there at all? Could the person walking Willow be someone else that just looks similar to her? Possibly her sister!!! If she was dropping the children off at school, why aren't there more witnesses from St Michaels village who walk down the main road over the bridge that have seen her. Any normal primary school is littered with parents around school drop off/start time, yet only ONLY 2 witnesses have been identified! Something is very wrong in the total absence of sightings, even before she allegedly got off the beaten track and into the path/field areas!
@mandibird3042
Жыл бұрын
Did she park her car in the school carpark? Don't you think that's odd? Parents arnt allowed to park on school grounds, then go off and walk the bloody dog!
@Rocket_Queen_Australia
Жыл бұрын
I find it strange that the first emotion Paul said he was feeling was anger. Between that and him and the sister asking her to come home, I'm starting to wonder if she has gone voluntarily.
@Rocket_Queen_Australia
Жыл бұрын
@@steveblundell7766 💯💯💯
@markshrimpton3138
Жыл бұрын
@@steveblundell7766 exactly, absolutely nobody can see inside someone else’s head. I had a cousin who committed suicide and the father of a good friend did likewise. Although the reason for the latter was soon discovered the reasons behind my cousin’s suicide remain a mystery. Both men appeared utterly normal in the days leading up to their deaths.
@saywhatyouwant888
Жыл бұрын
If you read back her partners interview on TV ,when asked if everything was normal that day in the morning, he answered Yes except there was no hurry !!!!!
@Jestersson
Жыл бұрын
I’ve thought that too. She’d have know where the cctv don’t cover too being used to the area . My guess is she’s eloped with someone and the police aren’t saying. I’m presuming they’ve checked her phone, computer, passport and banking info. She could be anywhere right now even abroad.
@butterflywings5904
Жыл бұрын
could very well have done..remember his business failed and probable bankruptcy..may have argued...he did have a black eye for a while..!!!
@blackcoffee.
Жыл бұрын
This case is so bizarre. Nicola goes for a walk with her dog in one of the safest places on the planet and vanishes.
@mj.l
Жыл бұрын
places are only as safe as the people in them
@desd1932
Жыл бұрын
no wheres safe
@shazanali692
Жыл бұрын
It's like a Johnathan creek episode
@Daisy-tl2lh
Жыл бұрын
safest? depends who has recently been moved into the vicinity!
@fatbelly27
Жыл бұрын
We can debate how safe anywhere is but to disappear completely and suddenly, leaving no forensic trace and just the dog and phone - that's very strange
@SteveMHN
Жыл бұрын
I found it very strange how the police seemed pretty confident very early that she had fallen into the river. Even if she had and the river had a strong current, I don't see why she wouldn't be able to get herself out. It's not as though she was old or obese or disabled, she was 44 and healthy. I think if she had they would have found her within a couple of days. I think she's been abducted.
@emnet2
Жыл бұрын
I agree with you 💯, I hope she is found safe and well for the sake of her kids 🙏
@dmvvideos7672
Жыл бұрын
There seems to be CCTV of quite a few other people in that area that day, red coat lady, lady with pram, why not Nicola if they’ve walked the same way??
@kathrynhamblin6479
Жыл бұрын
Very good point.
@greenonions5296
Жыл бұрын
Did they use a different entrance or was that footage getting them on their way out?
@apollonia6656
Жыл бұрын
Good video regarding cctv. I have to go back to day one and my response to that irresponsible statement made by Riley. She made it definitely clear that: 1 Nicola fell in the river; 2 No suspicious circumstances; 3 No third party involved. How on 🌎 can Riley be so sure when no body was found ? Why was it not considered suspicious ? Why be so quick to rule out a third party ? I think that the river should have been searched BUT as part of a missing person investigation along with the possibility of something suspicious in the equation and possible third party involvement. As a medic I never discount anything and jump to conclusions giving a know-it-all solution. So unprofessional and utterly irresponsible is my view to the Riley statement. To think that more than two weeks have gone by and Nicola is still missing, it is unacceptable. From day one all possibilities should have been considered. Heads will roll and the police will be haunted by their inaction; the river search was no excuse. The opinion people have of our police is,to say the least,laughable. We once had respect but not nowadays. Scared to search,scared to stop and question,scared to doubt and scared to act and all because of political pressure ;lend resuly =a weak police force.
@carole5933
Жыл бұрын
But don't you dare misgender someone because then you will be found and feel the weight of the law.
@lindab6093
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. If this was ineptly handled from day 1 by the police then most of their energies sadly will be going on limiting reputational damage. Confidence in the British police is at an all time low.
@user-mn5ul9vo9m
Жыл бұрын
@@lindab6093 - Well rightly so, if we are here today assuming criminal activity, we would still be searching the river. The police I am sure have been exercising all options, but telling the public where the lead is. For me, it has to be suspicious based on dog and phone. Most murder and rape cases rarely take the body, so in this case, was she abducted, pushed in the river by an attacker, or accidentally slipped??? I hope and pray that this ends in her admitting she has a lover and ran off.
@shirefinds6585
Жыл бұрын
The whole business is bizarre and extremely upsetting for everyone concerned. Right from the start, alarm bells rang for us when mentioned the mobile was on the bench. Did it get tested for fingerprints? There could have been prints of another person on there besides hers. We suspect this has been a planned abduction (god only knows why) and the mobile, lead and harness all left as decoys to make it look like she had actually been on the walk. Knowing now that there was no CCTV on her route, who is to say that she wasn't abducted or whatever BEFORE the walk OR at the point where she turns to come back?? 🙏Keep up the good work.
@LittleOwl178
Жыл бұрын
Police reported in the media that she met another dog walker known to her on the field around 9-9.10am and their dogs played together for a short while before they parted and continued their walks.
@user-mn5ul9vo9m
Жыл бұрын
Was there a lady who tied the dog to the bench, did she place the phone on the bench too? There seems to be a missing bunch of information around the phone and the dog. The phone should have finger prints on it, and can be a forensic gold mine both physical and digital. Another report said the dog was walking between gate and bench looking for owner, this could be when the lady tied the dog to the bench. At what time was this exactly? If Nicola was abducted the dog would follow her.
@gerhardheydrich3146
Жыл бұрын
Description of the two men? Information about who the residents of the caravan park are - are they a special group who have been placed there by the UK Government? Nothing is being said by the police about either and that makes me wonder why. Could both be issues of special 'sensitivity' and therefore something the police would be politically motivated to avoid? Not the first time the Lancashire police have chosen that route to avoid investigating aspects of a crime. Hopefully this is not the case - this time.
@conhand.3578
Жыл бұрын
🤡
@markhaynes6518
Жыл бұрын
I think it's literally got to the point now with the Lancashire police that they need to be taken off this case and have senior leaders from the Met take over the running of this case as these lot are useless. Mr blobby could walk past the station in broad daylight and they would not see him and come out well he wasn't picked up on our CCTV...
@earth0128
Жыл бұрын
Such a troubling case ... The access and exit to the area is not covered... It has to be considered I agree! 👍
@thekitowl
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. The only problem I have with it is, with walkers regularly coming in & out of the the park anyone abducting Nicola would probably bump into one of them.
@Baglady111
Жыл бұрын
@@thekitowl I take your point, but it doesn’t seem to be that busy. Many reports are that there were only 3 people over those fields at the same time as Nicola so I do think it’s possible an abduction could have happened without anyone seeing.
@thekitowl
Жыл бұрын
@@Baglady111 according to the police, two walkers turned up within 10 minutes of the last sighting. Who could have predicted that ?. I agree it’s not that busy but walkers are are arriving at random times. Ask yourself how did an abductor separate willow from Nicola .
@estellegrove4853
Жыл бұрын
The police need to get you on this case. You’ve spoken more sense than any of them 👍🏼
@marybreen6937
Жыл бұрын
You are spot on,they have gone down the wrong road,no wonder her family and friends were loosing it to keep this open to her being abducted it’s shocking
@fionagregory9147
Жыл бұрын
Losing not loosing. Everyone seems to make this spelling mistake.
@marybreen6937
Жыл бұрын
@@fionagregory9147 so sorry for the spellling mistake lol
@lukew7343
Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine someone abducting her in broad daylight, having to walk her quite a way to the nearest road to get her into a vehicle.
@CiaranArmagh
Жыл бұрын
Traffickers would know how to do it swiftly and quietly I would think. Element of suprise. Horrible to think the best possible scenario at this stage is shes been kidnapped and is still alive. I shall continue to pray for her safe return🙏.
@paulwilliams5013
Жыл бұрын
...i would imagine she was quite capable of abducting herself..if she wanted out...with another phone!
@CiaranArmagh
Жыл бұрын
I'm inclined to agree but the reality is it does happen.
@user-mn5ul9vo9m
Жыл бұрын
Why spend so much time plotting - when there are so many young people they could nab. Trafficking was not the motive in my opinion. She could have been pushed in the river... or worse. Why the police didn't cordon off the area is crazy. That whole area should have been shut down to the public until they combed through it for forensics.
@loesjevervloet3769
Жыл бұрын
Maybe someone she knew.
@lordtwo-a-penny3364
Жыл бұрын
Another fascinating piece covering this disturbing case. Thank you again for your continued scrutiny. It is in my view, the only KZitem channel to give a clear & thoughtful picture of what is going on here. For that reason it attracts a lot of interesting comments. The only certain aspects of this is that whoever is involved knew that Willow would not pose a problem & the young lady's routine. This in my humble opinion is a crime & was planned. I find it so difficult to believe that this capable woman, who knew the area very well, slipped into the river. Please let there be a breakthrough soon for the sake of this young mother.
@megja1812
Жыл бұрын
The first few days is so crucial in a missing person and they screwed it right up
@TheAngryyTroll
Жыл бұрын
Amazing as always - thank you for covering
@BassistPaul
Жыл бұрын
Oh dear - please tell me this isn't (yet) another senior police officer promoted way beyond their capabilities and f**king it all up...
@wobla9699
Жыл бұрын
I dont think it was her that left the house that day 🤔 In my opinion with the blurry ring images and few if any of her face, this could be easily staged
@rs2klee
Жыл бұрын
hmm good point to place her in a different time zone, or him for that matter. The sister has the same build!
@wobla9699
Жыл бұрын
@@rs2klee have you seen the family photo in the games room? Her partner and her sister are at one end laughing and he has his arm round her, somebody else is holding the girls and she is on the end with a visible amount of fresh air between her and the rest of the group, like she's a not well known guest. Definitely something fishy going on. I have a bad feeling about him, her sister and Emma White
@guvnor73
Жыл бұрын
An eye witness that knew her saw her in the field though.
@Baglady111
Жыл бұрын
Oh have a day off. There were people that knew her in the fields that identified her.
@wobla9699
Жыл бұрын
@@Baglady111 eye witness that actually spoke to her? Walked right up to her? Or just saw her in the field with her dog?
@scaberouswretch3673
Жыл бұрын
My theory at the moment is, it’s a targeted abduction. I think someone has been following her routes on her Strava account. On the day she went missing, one of them followed her into the fields and waited for her to come back to the bench. Once she was there, they’ve grabbed her while maintaining contact with an accomplice and timed there walk Down the path to the road, with the accomplice parking just off the road in front of the path, which would block the view of anyone driving by. They’ve put her in a car or van and driven off. Either that, or it’s something to do with someone who owns the land in the immediate vicinity. Apparently the lady who found the dog and the phone, also runs the caravan park. Apparently she has also threatened to shoot people’s dogs for having them off the lead.
@CiaranArmagh
Жыл бұрын
Quite a distance to be dragging someone in broad daylight - just saying.
@scaberouswretch3673
Жыл бұрын
@@CiaranArmagh It is. That's the only issue. Doesn't mean it didn't happen though. If it's not that, then where is she? The only options are the river, abduction, or deliberate disappearance.
@robj8201
Жыл бұрын
Lesson #1…Never assume. Shamefully handled and heads should roll.
@hafizshuaibahmed9719
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this coverage. You have made more sense than the news.
@hilaryjacobs7382
Жыл бұрын
This has hints of someone close to her knowing the truth..
@Wrz2e
Жыл бұрын
Surely the baffling lack of thoroughness can't be explained by mere incompetence. There must be another factor at play here.
@shadybad9836
Жыл бұрын
What everyone is saying about her disappearance is strange, why could Nicola not have planned to disappear herself?
@merchiron
Жыл бұрын
A 16 Yr. Old was thrown into the same river after a biking accident some miles away 45 years ago to the day Nicola went missing. It took two months before his body was washed up. For me the main clue that's not been mentioned here is Willow who stayed between the bench gate and riverside. Loyal Spaniels don't leave their owners.
@chrisnieto5547
Жыл бұрын
45 years ago they didn’t have the kind of search technology they have today. A bike accident is totally different is velocity into the water. Shes not in there, they have said so and they are experts. She would have rolled into waste deep slow moving water and she’s a strong swimmer. The dog would have sat by the bank waiting.
@cathydando1495
Жыл бұрын
They've usually televised a mock up of the day to jog people's memories
@lillybullen5374
Жыл бұрын
This is an incredibly baffling case - for many reasons. Personally, I discounted the 'fall in the river' senario almost immediately. My thoughts kept circling around the last time she was reported as being seen - in the top right-hand corner of the 'Upper Field'. Willow was apparently barking (disturbed, agitated?); there is a gate there; and beyond is a dead end road which could perhaps have facilitated an abduction. How the harness and phone then ended up back by the bench is beyond my non-criminal mind - unless they were 'planted'. Now, my mind is going in a different direction. Willow was taken back to the scene, and showed 'interest' in the area by the bench, but NOT the kissing gate. She was more interested in a stile that is situated near the bench and kissing gate, but still on the same side of the river. Could it be possible that Nicola was directedly taken from the bench area? This would exlain why the harness and phone were found on the ground near the bench - remember the phone was apparently 'placed' on the bench by someone else before it was later 'found' by another person). In short, there seems to be soooo many directions this case could go in - I just hope that ALL avenues can be thoroughly explored, and that Nicola is located.
@lj6079
Жыл бұрын
There are hundreds of cases where people vanish in thin air, good to know that this case is getting some attention. I wonder if they've searched the family home.
@outfromtheshadows
Жыл бұрын
And check if her passport is still there.
@paulwilliams5013
Жыл бұрын
@@outfromtheshadows .....and has she taken her make-up bag....etc!
@terinagray9447
Жыл бұрын
Yes, especially children 😢
@leannedonnelly5039
Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more with you! Show the so called cctv footage you have of nicola,day 16 and still not even a picture of this poor lady on her walk!
@xOrchid23x
Жыл бұрын
What I don’t understand is why the police was so adamant that she fell into the water, acting as if that was the ONLY option. They literally wasted 2 weeks worth of investigating other options and advancing on this new theory.
@Mst264
Жыл бұрын
The police botched this and gave these men time to get away..
@martinbrandom2654
Жыл бұрын
The officer is certainly not in post for her media and communication skills.
@Baglady111
Жыл бұрын
Agree
@stevenewton7787
Жыл бұрын
Is it asylum seekers and the police know but cannot say because there would be absolute carnage on the streets ?
@ajd36
Жыл бұрын
No CCTV of her at all. Not on the road, not in the car, not on the footpath. Nothing.
@ryustreetfighter8722
Жыл бұрын
Is there any migrant hotels in the area?
@em6577
Жыл бұрын
I don't think she left the top field imo... the phone was left there but not necessarily by nicola
@V0ices420
Жыл бұрын
That small lake and looks like fishing bungalows west of where Nicola was last seen should be a place of interest for police. Is this the place where the police took 9 days to interview the fishermen? And why didn’t they come forward themselves from day one?
@davefilms345
Жыл бұрын
Let's go on the assumption that she has been taken..this would have been planned for a long time. The person/or they would have followed her every move, times, where she walked, who would be around, everything. If this is the case
@markterrin8673
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. He/them could be on cctv earlier... within a month at least
@davefilms345
Жыл бұрын
@@markterrin8673 yep spot on
@beany2456
Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand the police it’s as though they have closed there minds to everything but the river. If someone walks up to a lady on her own with a weapon and forces her out of there she would go. I think she’s been abducted.
@Pa-tk1dx
Жыл бұрын
Once again your leaps and bounds ahead of anyone.
@gordy3714
Жыл бұрын
From the bench it seems a massive risk to abduct someone from there to any escape location. Michelle After Dark did a great video about the different locations yesterday. 👍
@fabiandegussion5134
Жыл бұрын
Why haven’t the descriptions of the two men been released? Two men plus red van ! If they are known they can then be eliminated from the case.
@jnuttso1
Жыл бұрын
What a great point you're made they don't have any cctv footage of her other than coming out of her home as long as the time stamp is correct 👍 Is it all to obvious her phone dog and harness were all found pretty much together she did the same routine every day but the day she went missing for some reason it was slightly different
@TammeraFreno
Жыл бұрын
🤔 Was it different because she may have been manipulated by weapon
@andreareid8484
Жыл бұрын
In view of the overall investigation don't you think it's time for many of the officers involved in this matter possibly need to be removed and fresh insight into the natter needs to be addressed this case with a different approach
@nicksonshango2082
Жыл бұрын
A very good analysis The other argument is that what if the little evidence that suggest she fell into the River was equally choreographed to lead the police off the tract It suggests some serious incompetence on such a well funded police department
@Golds174
Жыл бұрын
This is my go too channel for updates on this story. I don't bother with mainstream media anymore.
@bobbojones8157
Жыл бұрын
I’ve said exactly this on a previous post . Why hadn’t they looked at cctv footage of days before . Police should have been checking this out day one instead of insisting she fell in the river .
@A_P631
Жыл бұрын
Is there any type of migrant hotels or other types of government funded accommodation near there?.. sorry but somebody has to say it
@blackstar297
Жыл бұрын
Wtf is the story all about ....where is it leading ....feels more like a particular narrative being pushed than the anything else ....like.many stories in the media
@paulinecabbed1271
Жыл бұрын
On the Friday did no one go past the bench for a whole hour between 09.30 and 10.30
@unclockusalltodefendourselves.
Жыл бұрын
I think your 💯 correct in what your saying . I think all the officers on this case should be investigated and lose there job's for being incompetent. If they went about it right in the first place then she may of been found by now. The police have given the suspect or suspects far too long.
@fionagregory9147
Жыл бұрын
Lose their jobs*. Just correcting spelling.
@ladylaois8184
Жыл бұрын
the whole thing is odd! the fact it’s gone mega viral is odd? 4 people go missing a week
@dodge3971
Жыл бұрын
Two fishermen were seen the day before.Very strange as the fishing season is closed in winter.
@user-mn5ul9vo9m
Жыл бұрын
Poachers? If not, why pretend to be fishermen? It is very strange for sure. We need to track them down. But how on earth are two men going to force a woman out of the park, without anyone seeing her.
@CTID
Жыл бұрын
WHY WHY WHY was the harness OFF the dog? That dog wore the harness on every picture, even in indoors!!??
@margopaton3240
Жыл бұрын
A great analysis. It’s all very strange.
@wjtgbio5218
Жыл бұрын
I personally believe that she’s been stalked out and seen walking this route and if she uploads her strava walks to her social media accounts then anyone can see the entrance and exit points. It also makes sense that two people were involved because of the dog by the bench and also the phone being placed while the other person grabs her and then puts her into a vehicle and drives off. It’s sad to say but if these people are mentally unwell enough to kidnap her with little evidence I hope they find her alive more than anything
@hanselmansell7555
Жыл бұрын
Got to admit it either the police aren't telling us something which could be understandable, or they just saw a river, trashed the scene and then left in search of donuts... ☕🍩🚔
@Whitesilver1970
Жыл бұрын
This is the laziest and incompetent police investigation I have ever seen!
@handsomejack5787
Жыл бұрын
They're not telling us something or they are as thick as fuck.
@carolinejohnson22
Жыл бұрын
Ps..? the police even said she probably jumped in the river after a ball. Never heard anything so stupid. They are covering up the fact that they suspect certain dangerous men lurking around, lying in wait for women. They are probably protecting the would be perpetrators. It is a living hell for her family....
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