Im not thinking she was drunk or suicidal. Speculating..she was put there afterwards
@TheQueensWish
Жыл бұрын
I agree
@Aaron-kj8dv
Жыл бұрын
That's where I'm leaning too
@moggpiano8043
Жыл бұрын
Don't you think this family have suffered enough from heartless cretins "Speculating"? Just stop.
@iniquity123
Жыл бұрын
It will be very easy to prove or not. Having to be identified by dental records is a big indicator that she was in the water all along......
@TheQueensWish
Жыл бұрын
@@iniquity123 But remember the water is very cold. It could also prove be too upsetting for any of the family to have to identify her and be stuck with that final image and memory. This could be another reason to use dental records for the positive identification.
@charshill2978
Жыл бұрын
Real convenient for whoever immediately told police that she was a drunkard to shift the blame onto tje victim. Nicola could not have fed and organised her children for school, drive to school, walk a few miles while texting and interacting with people...if Nicola was intoxicated. Still as many questions as answers in this case.
@ilmasaavedra3954
Жыл бұрын
Mmmmm...
@loredanadincu4300
Жыл бұрын
Mmmm who the f you think they told them that , her family, friends or husband. The police wouldn't have known that from a stranger.
@What_I_Think_Happened
Жыл бұрын
@@loredanadincu4300 The baby daddy told them that rubbish.
@What_I_Think_Happened
Жыл бұрын
@@loredanadincu4300 baby daddy
@loredanadincu4300
Жыл бұрын
@@What_I_Think_Happened meaning her partner and the father of her girls
@InsomniOwl_
Жыл бұрын
This case is weird.
@Chxzueee_
Жыл бұрын
I thought that. It is so confusing aswell
@teresev1435
Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@rebeccagilstrap3507
Жыл бұрын
I know a little about alcoholism and here’s the deal: if she had drank heavily the night before or that morning, there’s no way in hell she would feel like getting up, feeding and dressing her kids, then taking them to school and walking her dog. Unless she was very high functioning, forget it. She wouldn’t have it together like that.
@mattjames9868
Жыл бұрын
Coroners report will say it all. I’m sure bits of it will be released x
@fatbelly27
Жыл бұрын
It doesn't hang together, does it?
@Hayley-db2pz
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@batacumba
Жыл бұрын
lol my alcoholic neighbor absolutely can do all that stuff while drunk, even after getting almost no sleep. I would be almost impressed if I wasn’t being kept awake by said drunken escapades. Don’t underestimate what a high functioning addict can accomplish. Sometimes I think about the fact that the same blood alcohol level that she walks around with acting completely sober would put me in the hospital. 😖
@charshill2978
Жыл бұрын
Surely a p.m needs to be done to determine cause of death. How could she drink enough alchohol in ten mins to fall into a river?
@petalblossom96
Жыл бұрын
So drunk in the morning that she was able to drive her kids to school and log in to a work meeting? 🤔 Not likely.
@moggpiano8043
Жыл бұрын
You cannot say how she or anyone else would behave. Speculation without knowledge. Just stop.
@petalblossom96
Жыл бұрын
@@moggpiano8043 No, you stop. I'm no less entitled to offer an opinion than me.
@ironicallyxiconic
Жыл бұрын
You're gonna be shocked when you find out what a functioning alcoholic is....
@weirdo9711
Жыл бұрын
Maybe she was suicidal and so depressed that she drowned herself
@Nathalie7774
Жыл бұрын
She wouldn’t be driving if she was drunk.
@lizmcvey1294
Жыл бұрын
Paul was adamant she was not in the river… He seemed to be sure of that… Doesn’t mean she can’t suddenly appear in the river… All very strange
@dogblessamerica
Жыл бұрын
Paul was wrong, simple as that. Even at the time I thought it was wild that he was so categorical about her not being in the river.
@nomadscavenger
Жыл бұрын
He was only adamant after police came out w/why they focussed on her drowning herself: what he TOLD them. Pressure to reveal those "high risk", "vulnerabilities" factors disclosed only by HIM. And her body hadn't been found after all their and others searching! Shortly after speaking about those blurry euphemisms, they were pressured from many directions to reveal in more detail what the f&#@∆ they meant. It's only then he started to blame, disparage LE. Was very supportive of them up until then; he came out publicly and (with a black eye?) told an interviewer acted very pessimistic she survived drowning in the river (which on tv looked right in front of him?), and told the children she was lost, now it's all about them! So, it's called a convenient switcheroo, I'm guessing. Trying to keep ahead, really.
@tlmoscow
Жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande has already reported a case of a woman who ‘vanished’ on a desert trail. Hundreds of people looked for her for weeks - nothing. Then, her remains were found just a few feet from the trail. I don’t think it’s a matter of incompetence or a lack of trying - it’s just a very hard thing to do.
@tonyabrookes9931
Жыл бұрын
Do people who have a "drinking problem" typically take their dogs for long walks in the park? Don't they typically just sit at home and drink?
@iniquity123
Жыл бұрын
Have you a drink problem ? If not, how would you know.
@vaultboy3100
Жыл бұрын
Because some people are functioning alcoholics and others are non functioning alcoholics.
@angelawatson7740
Жыл бұрын
Functioning alcoholics use a top up system throughout the day . So yes they , work, run companies , raise families and walk their dogs. Strangely this system is associated more with the middle/upper classes . You are probably relating to the obvious drinkers who have gone beyond the top up system. Which is associated with the working classes and the unemployed.
@neenaj365
Жыл бұрын
Totally irresponsible reporting. What is meant by “significant struggles with alcohol and menopause”. That could probably describe a fifth of the female population of the Western world. It doesn’t mean a lot other than demonizing the poor woman.
@danielkelly1210
Жыл бұрын
Was she stored in a Tank of River Water after being murdered and then dropped into the River after the focus of the Search changed ?
@gummybearthug5337
Жыл бұрын
I hope they perform an autopsy and check her stomach contents to see if she was kept alive after she went missing and also check to see if she had been frozen (from being put in a freezer)
@annagalka6099
Жыл бұрын
She was struggling with alcohol soooo bad that her partner who was not at work let her drive the kids to school… yeah right 👍 it’s all about the girls ….
@moggpiano8043
Жыл бұрын
You don't know the situation.
@SilverSparkles22
Жыл бұрын
He works from home
@LornaSGal
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@louisemagill8295
Жыл бұрын
An alcoholic with a fitbit...hmmm
@glitterprincess5672
Жыл бұрын
I don’t believe the narrative at all
@malaika4960
Жыл бұрын
My assumption is that the water was quite cold, it being winter. Falling into the river would possibly have woken her up if she was drunk, so this seems very strange. At this point, only God knows what happened. RIP Nicola, may your family eventually find peace.
@ckp2ator389
Жыл бұрын
@@Laika5436 I know what you mean by "cold water shock". I was in a canoe that overturned in cold water (early spring). I remember one conscious thought "this is it" and sinking. Then my companion grabbed me and life-saved me to shore.
@patrickbatman141
Жыл бұрын
Cold water can basically paralyse your body if cold enough. Your limbs won't work so you can't swim and as a result you drown. There's actually more chance of someone drowning if they fall into cold water, yes it could also sober someone up if they're drunk but that won't stop the shock from happening that's stops you from being from able to get out the water.
@SShambler
Жыл бұрын
It was more likely a suicide, she left her phone at the bench where river was shallow and her husband stated that she was very good swimmer. She also known that place very well from her daily routine.
@loredanadincu4300
Жыл бұрын
@@SShambler Or he rhisband has something to do with it
@conorfitzmaurice8959
Жыл бұрын
Thoughts and prayers to the family and friends of Nicola. Thank you for the update Dr.Grande.
@bea1365
Жыл бұрын
I think this was a PsyOp. Her "husband" did acting/crisis actor jobs. Her "best friend" was in Line of Duty and owns the massive mansion that Paul Ansell was interviewed in. The Crisis Actor role was advertised a year before and there is a screen shot of Paul Ansell's mate pointing out the advert for the role to him and asking if he still did that sort of thing. The advert said "you must not be represented". The caravan park next to where she went missing is where some contestants on Hunted hid out and they won the huge cash prize because no one could find them. Too many coincidences. The "body" was found not far from where Police divers had already searched and an independent expert diving company. I'm ex military and none of this is adding up to me. They are trying to bring in digital ID and more surveillance and this could be another "reason/excuse" for them to do it. Not saying I am right, just my thoughts.
@JugglingG
Жыл бұрын
It seems strange they didn't find her body when they searched so thoroughly with professional divers and sonar equipment and the lead expert was convinced she wasn't in the river.
@lolly5453
Жыл бұрын
💯 really weird. Teams of police, detectives, specialists, millions of £££ of equipment, even a bunch of “armchair detectives” lining the river taking photos and searching....... and dog walkers find her in that exact area? I can’t get my head around it
@minnietrout814
Жыл бұрын
Same thing happened in the Kiely Rodni case.
@clairyboots.
Жыл бұрын
The divers are saying that they were not responsible for searching the reeds (where she was found) and that that was the responsibility of the land searches. Still doesnt explain why she wasnt found by people searching on land
@lolly5453
Жыл бұрын
@@clairyboots. interesting, I hadn’t heard that. Still, you’re absolutely right... I mean, surely teams should be searching everywhere?!?! They go out to sea but won’t check the reed-beds a mile away? You can’t be doing an in-depth search for a missing person but just “skip the reeds” or “ignore those bushes over there” ?!?!? 🙄🤦🏻♀️ what kind of searching is that?! Half-arsed searching sounds about right. Sorry for the rant... My heart just goes out to Nicola and family who’ve had to endure this. As if it wasn’t hard enough with a loved one missing/passed away, and the scrutiny and speculation on top of that, this blatant error by police/search teams just creates even more controversy and conspiracy theory. An already unbearable situation made even worse. 💔
@powlperc
Жыл бұрын
Thx for the update. 👍
@jenanne31
Жыл бұрын
How sad. The lack of signs of struggle was confusing in this case. Thanks for the update, Dr. Grande.
@garrydenewaldie7257
Жыл бұрын
Nicola's last known location. There is a gate in the hedge out of view. The top field walk takes you close to Rowenswater. It is a private enclosed fishing area. There is a high wooden gate in the fence between the Upper field where Nicola mobile phone pinged her location 10 minutes before she went missing. She could be taken to a place out of view but still in water. Not far from Marsh Farm Hall there is a sluice running between the fields. It has a tunnel under the pathway and it empties into the river. There is a metal round lid stopping the contents running into the river until that lid is opened. The tunnel under the pathway is hidden from arial view. Walkers would not see anything either. Ideal place to keep a body in water and out of view until the right moment to open the sluice gate. Just around the bend from that sluice gate Nicola's body was discovered. Where Rawcliff Road comes closest to the River Wyre on the bend that is where where Nicola's body stopped floating down the river and it was caught up in some vegetation.
@mulemule
Жыл бұрын
"Struggling with her intake of alcohol." (I'm going to use this euphemism for my cousin's behavior next Thanksgiving, Christmas, St. Patrick's and New Year's.)
@lorna8164
Жыл бұрын
Lots of people struggling with alcohol, they don't go slip into the river. Wouldn't you have to be pretty intoxicated to fall into the river in the morning. I don't think she was.
@rItA589
Жыл бұрын
This case feels like an episode of Black Mirror. My mind is blown with the crazy people doing tik toks and harrasing the partner :( I hope the family finds peace
@insideroutside
Жыл бұрын
It's so sad she wont be there for her family. Rip nicola
@kaylab99
Жыл бұрын
RIP Nicola 💛
@stacin821
Жыл бұрын
Oh wow how sad for her family
@TS-rd7oy
Жыл бұрын
I just don't see a person regardless of any type of depression or alcohol related disorder offing themselves in this very clumsy way. Most women use pills.
@charshill2978
Жыл бұрын
Nicola got up early, fed and dressed the kids, drove them to school, and walked a good way to the river. If she was intoxicated she couldn't have managed all that...as well as send texts, hold conversations, and log onto a work call.
@Jinxi928
Жыл бұрын
@@charshill2978 i think you underestimate what high functioning addicts can do
@moggpiano8043
Жыл бұрын
What you do or don't see is irrelevant. When are the bedroom Poirot's going to understand that you cannot assess another human's behaviour in *ANY* situation with any degree of certainty. You are speculating without knowledge. We have had 3 weeks of such nonsense, and so far, it has been completely wrong. Just stop.
@SilverSparkles22
Жыл бұрын
Sigh. Tell that to the families of women dragged out of UK rivers
@stevenicol1
Жыл бұрын
@@moggpiano8043 agree 100%
@fasteee
Жыл бұрын
This woman was not seen on ANY CCTV entering that area or being IN the area, she was not seen on ANY CCTV exitting the area. But witnesses WERE , yet people STILL THINK she fell in the river. Wake up
@MilkyWhiskers
Жыл бұрын
I doubt very much her husband would have allowed Nicola to drive their kids to school daily if she had an alcohol problem. Also, the lead diver said that she wasn't in the water when he searched the whole area. There is a probability that someone has placed her there. Awaiting the autopsy results.
@carolsloane6924
Жыл бұрын
She wasn’t drunk or on medication that could of impaired her ability to walk talk or drive. Nicola is clearly the victim of foul play. Her death is being hidden. Their are guilty people involved in this case.
@Holymother2023
Жыл бұрын
Love your voice, so calming. R.I.P Nicola Bully xoxo
@shennel7304
Жыл бұрын
She wasn't found in the river, she was found on top of the reeds, that part of the river was searched water and land multiple times, police say they are calling the river search off and boom her body appears
@lizmcvey1294
Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand how she would suddenly be visible to a psychic passer by… I’m sure any diver would check the reeds enough to see if a 5 ft 2 in body was present..they wouldnt ignore any obstacles in the water where she could snag onto and get held there.. I trust what Peter said..
@shennel7304
Жыл бұрын
@@lizmcvey1294 there's a brick wall along that road, so im assuming for people that are walking they can see over the brick wall better than if your in a car maybe?
@moggpiano8043
Жыл бұрын
Who said she was found on top of the reeds? That's the most stupid thing I have seen today. You are speculating without knowledge. Just stop!
@shennel7304
Жыл бұрын
@@moggpiano8043 lmao you clearly don't watch anything, Peter faulding said it!!! Also said about 3rd party being involved because her body wasnt there when the police and him searched there multiple times, Go watch stuff before commenting and calling me dumb
@loredanadincu4300
Жыл бұрын
Where was searched genius. From what I know they searched at the spot she was supposedly fell in. She was found 1 mile or so away from that spot. I don't recall police saying they searched down the river
@zenawarrior7442
Жыл бұрын
I heard that river flows oddly so possibly she was trapped in some bushes etc. So sad, maybe she was intoxicated. Thanks Dr G😊💔💔
@ceilconstante640
Жыл бұрын
Sonar would have reflected that.
@dannylad1600
Жыл бұрын
@@ceilconstante640 no it wouldn't... Sonar cant penetrate reeds/ vegetation.
@ceilconstante640
Жыл бұрын
@@dannylad1600 k
@iesroo
Жыл бұрын
Rip 😢
@Arthur-fc7zm
Жыл бұрын
@@dannylad1600 Yes, that ist true.
@sabercrosby8128
Жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for the police. They said she was in the river. She was. They said nobody was involved. They weren't. They just followed lines of enquiry. It's not their fault that rivers are hard to search.
@kentcyclist
Жыл бұрын
Suddenly turns up seconds from a road??!!
@solarralos7102
Жыл бұрын
We don't know no one else was involved.
@dannylad1600
Жыл бұрын
@@kentcyclist, maybe because that particular stretch of river was in good view to public pedestrians compared to the other stretches of river her body travelled through, meaning she was more likely to have been spotted there. After all she was spotted by dog walkers from the road.
@marcdraco2189
Жыл бұрын
@@kentcyclistnot suddenly. Have you ever seen a body that’s been in water for weeks? You wouldn’t want to but they don’t just float off and wash up in a convenient spot.
@travelwell6049
Жыл бұрын
@@dannylad1600 not dog walkers.
@Sammy_Kaur
Жыл бұрын
Apparently the information about her alcoholism came from her husband - we are yet to hear conclusive confirmation as to whether or not she truly had a problem with alcohol (this would be in her medical records if she did)
@jeanettedevereux7664
Жыл бұрын
She's no drunk 👍
@messrsandersonco5985
Жыл бұрын
FYI, Nicola was perimenopausal and police/mental health practitioners had been called to the house only weeks before her disappearance. This, in addition to drinking would categorise her as "vulnerable". Also, dead bodies can sink and snag in thick reeds at the bottom before they eventually bloat and rise to the surface. The divers didn't look in the reeds! Why they didn't defies ordinary logic but apparently, they assumed her body would simply sink because it's only beyond the weir is the water tidal which would haven shifted the body 4x a day.
@lizmcvey1294
Жыл бұрын
That does seem an after thought to not look into the reeds.. have the divers clarified that?.. Did anyone who saw and spoke to her that morning think she looked like she was under the influence…? Her routine of up and out on the school run followed by a drive.. park up and walk in the fresh air in the countryside with her dog doesn’t fit with the demographic of a crumbling vulnerable woman .. mortgage advisor working with numbers everyday..… If this was the case.. surely Paul would not let her drive and would have supported by taking these responsibilities whilst she is moderating medications… As a mum in menopause having raised 2 children alone.. I’m seeing this objectively… God bless Nicola..🙏
@Sinailionspride
Жыл бұрын
@@lizmcvey1294 8th
@moggpiano8043
Жыл бұрын
Peter Faulding said that his company did not look in the reeds, because his sonar equipment can't do that. I had not heard that the police or other agencies say that they did not search such areas.
@chumchum4393
Жыл бұрын
There’s no way that she killed herself.
@goncaloamaral7846
Жыл бұрын
@@chumchum4393 better to admit that you don’t know, rather than make things up
@NoFaithNoPain
Жыл бұрын
Her body was NOT in the river. It was in the reed bank some distance away and would not have been visible. But the Sniffer dogs would have found her probably.
@lucymix325
Жыл бұрын
Yes that’s correct but the reeds shud of been checked. They weren’t. Messed up.
@ceilconstante640
Жыл бұрын
Sniffer dogs would have definitely found a body if one was there.
@lostandfound5145
Жыл бұрын
The scent of decomposition can really take a bit to stew for a dog to find. Especially a recent death in the cold with water causing the scent to be less potent. I am not surprised dogs didn’t find her. I train dogs for a living.
@SilverSparkles22
Жыл бұрын
It was floating in the river caught up in an overhanging bush. The video was online of her body being dragged out the water for goodness sake!
@dadssongsfraser4593
Жыл бұрын
Was NOT reeds it was on a tree. No reeds involved
@emmachampion5086
Жыл бұрын
Oh please, most people here in England know this is a load of rubbish! Don't go on like this is real
@rosec3452
Жыл бұрын
She was found by a psychic man and his friend, both were not walking a dog, he used his psychic abilities to find her. Nicola wasn’t an alcoholic, but she did drink sometimes. I think her partner was making this up.
@iniquity123
Жыл бұрын
A psychic will never have psychic powers. As there is no such thing as psychic power.
@grannythebuilder395
Жыл бұрын
Dr Grane and all the other people who speculated on this very sad case should be ashamed of themselves. The inquest has found she had no alcohol or drugs in her system and she drowned due to the natural human reaction when falling into very cold water. She was probably dead within 10 to 30 seconds of entering the water. It is most likely she slipped down the bank into the river and was overcome by cold shock. If he has any integrity, Grande should make another video apologising for his errors.
@lisabass7584
Жыл бұрын
So sad 😢
@felicitywoodruffe4087
Жыл бұрын
Nicky's parents deny that she had a problem with alcohol her friends also stated that she did not have a problem with alcohol,it has been said that Paul said she had drunk more than usual since struggling with the menopaus.We do not know or have any proof of this and she jogged regularly walked daily she ate healthy and drank plenty of water . If Paul believed nicky had a problem with alcohol why would he allow her to drive their two young daughters to school regularly when he could just as easily taken them .They live in a tiny village everybody knows each other and nicky was well liked and respected by locals .we should be careful repeating unsubstantiated suggestions
@jeanettedevereux7664
Жыл бұрын
👏
@Jeanninecomeau
Жыл бұрын
I think the menopause thing was personal and irrelevant. Should the public know about her last pap smear too? I do think that she was having issues with alcohol and possibly some mental issues were important though because she might have been found sooner in stead of wild goose chases. I think the down coat might have weighed her down. I remember reading about that with Natalie Wood.
@blackcherry07
Жыл бұрын
We live in a misogynistic world
@leebolton9913
Жыл бұрын
I think you need a psychiatric help to there is nothing relevant to the Natalie Wood case to very different cases ..
@Jeanninecomeau
Жыл бұрын
@@leebolton9913 I think you need reading comprehension. They were both wearing coats. Natalie Woods coat was down. I don't know the type Nicola was wearing but it looked like it could be down as well. Also, Natalie Wood was clearly drinking.
@viborrr
Жыл бұрын
@@blackcherry07 Quite the opposite, we live in a gynocentric world. If it was a man that went missing, nobody would bother looking after him.
@GM-vr2yh
Жыл бұрын
As another commenter said she was found not in the river but in reeds on the bank.
@lizb4156
Жыл бұрын
The reeds are in the river that's where they grow.
@GM-vr2yh
Жыл бұрын
@@lizb4156reeds grow up an embankment, rivers swell and drain because the amount of water increases and decreases due to precipitation (that’s rainfall)
@lizb4156
Жыл бұрын
@@GM-vr2yh The reeds are in the water. I know what precipitation is, I'm 47.
@GM-vr2yh
Жыл бұрын
@@lizb4156 reeds can grow up a rivers bank. It’s been relatively dry in England for winter so the river was lower than it might usually be
@lizb4156
Жыл бұрын
@@GM-vr2yh She was in the river.
@ceilconstante640
Жыл бұрын
What do you mean it's now clear she was struggling with alcohol? She was 45. Her recent photos don't show any signs of a drinker. Supposedly the river was searched and the area. The police woman who gave the original briefing looked and sounded VERY NERVOUS! The police didn't immediately block off the area. Something ain't right! Missing 411 Movie now FREE on YT.
@merrymaid2890
Жыл бұрын
The police said before she was found, that she was struggling with alcohol addiction. I suppose they got that info from her family.
@ceilconstante640
Жыл бұрын
@@merrymaid2890 the police have been known to lie for cover ups.
@merrymaid2890
Жыл бұрын
@@ceilconstante640 The police said this before she was found: “Sadly, it is clear from speaking to Paul and the family that Nicola had in the past suffered with some significant issues with alcohol which were brought on by her ongoing struggles with the menopause, and that these struggles had resurfaced over recent months. This caused some real challenges for Paul and the family.” The family members and friends have had every chance to say to media that it was wrong, that Nicola was not struggling with alcohol. But I have not read any statement like that. Not even in the statement from the family when Nicola was found dead. If you are sure the police is lying, why have not her family members and friends said that the police are lying about her problems with alcohol? There are more people that die of suicide than murder. And unfortunately people with substance abuse are more likely to kill themselves than ordinary people. In England and Wales around 700 peoples were murdered 20020/2021. At the same time 5600 people killed themselves.
@ceilconstante640
Жыл бұрын
@@merrymaid2890 thank you for taking the time to reply. I didn't hear all the facts. I don't know if you're interested but the movie Missing 411 is free on YT. In the USA in state parks and wildlife areas we have numerous people that vanish completely. Others have shown up dead days later in areas that were thoroughly searched! It was odd that the area wasn't immediately secured and processed. I know sometimes the police will make a statement to cover-up a strange occurrence.
@merrymaid2890
Жыл бұрын
@@ceilconstante640 Thanks for taking this serious and wanting to discuss it. ❤️ I live in Sweden. People do not often get murdered here in national parks. The last time was 39 years ago. It was a couple from the Netherlands that were killed in their tent and the murderer is not yet found. So there are no serial killers lurking in the woods and no Bigfoot here. People are in fact rarely killed by bear. From 1902-200y no one was killed by a bear. After that a couple of hunters have been killed. People usual do not get lost to never be found. Not even those who commit suicide. So because of our national parks being so uneventful, I am crazy about videos of missing people in national parks in US. 😃 Yes, a morbid hobby. 🙈 I watch a lot of these on KZitem. And I understand that there have been problems with some of the work that the police have done. Delayed searches. Areas that have been searched - and yet the body was found there later. But this is UK and not a national park. Instead a recreation area close to houses and roads. So at this moment I don’t think the police is trying to cover up something. But time will tell. And the autopsy.
@yvonnesimpson4584
9 ай бұрын
Rest in peace beautiful lady.
@marcdraco2189
Жыл бұрын
First of all she was abducted. Then she wanders off. And now more speculation because the mysterious stranger theories don’t fit. The poor woman fell into a fast flowing river for reasons we probably will never understand and drowned. People die this way quite often. If you’re not a strong swimmer, wearing warm clothes and in that temperature, you become hypothermic in seconds. Faster if you’ve been drinking as ethanol reduces body temperature. Occam’s Razor said this from the start. It’s just a terrible tragedy and a reminder that alcohol is a DRUG!
@marywenzel3199
Жыл бұрын
I will be very interested to hear the coroner’s report, including toxicology, any injuries Nicola may have had and whether there was water in her lungs. A number of factors make this case very bizarre. It seems most likely that she fell into the water. However, the Wyre is not fast flowing at that spot. The depth at the edges is 3 feet tops. Nic was a good swimmer according to her friends. Presuming she was not conscious or able to swim or call out for help, she and her water-repellent puffer jacket sink completely within minutes out of view. Her unrestrained dog does not follow or bark and is found running by the gate, not the bank. I’d have thought a spaniel would have jumped in too if her person was in trouble. Dog was dry. According to the specialist dive captain, a body in those conditions-sluggish current, very cold water, heavy clothes-normally would sink and drift only a few meters in the time it took for the water search to begin. That was a matter of a few hours. It should have been impossible for her body to drift so far it cleared the weir in that time. Yet it did. Nicola was petite, but for her to be missed for nearly a month in a narrow channel of water and turn up in the reeds so close to where she went in-at the bank by the roadside to be spotted by two members of the public-does not sit easy with me. She may have been put there sometime later after the searches were called off. That’s what it seems like. They went all the way to the sea-10 miles, and she was there all that time? I struggle to believe they missed her. I hope the coroner is very thorough.
@chumchum4393
Жыл бұрын
There’s no way that she killed herself.
@danielle912
Жыл бұрын
@@psykhs but Peter said the river bank was too shallow if she fell in by the bench where her phone was, nothing makes sense about this.
@sherrynan2028
Жыл бұрын
So, a medium found her body on day 23. He also found a young male on day 23. The bench had the #23 on it. So many questions. Not sure what to believe. ❤
@DaftPunkSkittle
Жыл бұрын
Hikers found her, not some scamming medium bruh
@KayosHybrid
Жыл бұрын
It’s called monkey brain noticing patterns. We invented numbers as a concept thousands of years ago and it has no correlation to when we invented how we number days, or objects. Unless everything significant on earth happens every 23 seconds, every 23 minutes, every 23 years etc (all of these measurements of time are subjective and will change based around human culture and the movements of the Earth around the Sun) then trust me you’ve simply picked out 3 things that match. Every officer on the task force wasn’t 23 years old, or 23 days, minutes, seconds, years, leap years, into their tenure. The sniffer dogs weren’t 23 months old. The water wasn’t 23 degrees Celsius. Did you see 23 people that day?
@lindzee924
Жыл бұрын
@@DaftPunkSkittle Wrong. A medium found her. Jason Rothwell, a self-described ‘spiritual medium, psychic and tarot reader’. He was there.
@DaftPunkSkittle
Жыл бұрын
@@lindzee924 my 💩 was there too, it wasn’t a medium you 🤡. It was 2 ppl walking they dogs
@lindzee924
Жыл бұрын
@@DaftPunkSkittle Wrong again. Her body was found a mile from a river bench where her phone was found by Jason Dean Rothwell. He and a friend were seen alongside the River Wyre at the weekend, appearing to assist police with the location and recovery of a body .
@Miawallce80
Жыл бұрын
It was because of the serve underwater currents it took so long to find her body.
@eileenlocke7877
Жыл бұрын
RIP nicola so sad
@Themystergamerr
Жыл бұрын
Dr Grande the coroner has concluded that her death was purely accidental from falling in the river and getting cold water shock, no 3rd party involvement. I'm still not 100% convinced because her dog was found bone dry and you would think it would go in after its owner.
@negativit
Жыл бұрын
what microphone do you use?
@Laura-yd3ds
Жыл бұрын
If she was struggling with alcohol do toxicology reports show that also the day she went missing and dropped her children off no one mentioned eg professionals she was under the influence of alcohol, such as under safeguarding procedure and if she was why is this her children remained her in care ? Was domestic violence involved? Etc.
@debrandw246
Жыл бұрын
She was not struggling with alcohol. This was a red herring added 3 weeks after missing.
@Scrabble12
Жыл бұрын
I used to be an alcoholic and while walking my dog, there’s many rivers I almost fell in
@alldayeverydayboxing3385
Жыл бұрын
You are still an alcoholico
@rosieblack2076
Жыл бұрын
coroner ruled accidental death, No alcohol in her body! a scream was heard by woman in garden, at back of were bench was, on day Nicola disappeared. a man dressed in black was observed near area Nicola was walking, man has never been identified.
@dogblessamerica
Жыл бұрын
You based your analysis without knowing all the facts. It's a shame that the police had to release that personal information to quell the extreme level of social media speculation.
@annettemoore7264
Жыл бұрын
Here's the latest..with regards to the police divers who where seen at the river last Friday.... Dr James Adeley, HM senior coroner, said: “Speculation as to the role and purpose of Officers acting on my instructions is unhelpful in the resolution of this inquest.” An inquest into Ms Bulley‘s death is to be held on 26 June. Dr Adeley said at an inquest opener that surgeon Andrew Ian Edwards had examined Ms Bulley’s dental records and that evidence gathered by police and the post-mortem examination required “further evaluation”. ......so I reckon there are at least two very nervous people in the village at the moment.....👍
@Teddietonbear23
Жыл бұрын
Really. She was put there. Hope I’m wrong? Plus Peter done a brilliant search on the river. Get that right !!!
@iniquity123
Жыл бұрын
No.
@krob2327
Жыл бұрын
No idea tbf. Her husband is a possible American or uk spy. There’s a lot going on
@brooks_skelton
Жыл бұрын
“Deep probabilities” my guy, if she was intoxicated there was no way she could’ve done all those actions that she did that following morning nor the night before. It was just information the police needed to be aware of as it puts Nicola into the category of high risk. She’s at peace now, rest in peace Nicola. ❤
@tapriciasiwel1198
Жыл бұрын
What happened to her dog she was walking?
@moonloversheila8238
Жыл бұрын
It was found running loose on the river path. Its lead and harness were on the ground.
@Holymother2023
Жыл бұрын
IF ONLY WILLOW COULD TALK! ( THAT'S HER DOG, THAT WAS WITH HER)
@geoffgreen9681
Жыл бұрын
How did she chip her tooth? When did that happen?
@desfletc
Жыл бұрын
I have lost many a great friend over the years through alcohol, you can't hide from the fact your an alcoholic, your skin looks aweful, you start caring less about yourself,looks, etc, and if your drinking a lot you start smelling like alcohol, the smell is always on your breath, if your active like working out, playing sport you can smell it on you when you sweat,, I have been there myself. In all the pictures of Nicola she looks great, fit and healthy a very attractive lady, tidy, well dressed, with the walks she did I would say she was very active, I don't wear she had an alcohol problem, not to the point where it was affecting her health, unless she was having small amounts of drink on top of medication, who knows, let's wait and see
@kamrynpaigexo9311
Жыл бұрын
I feel for her truly. She was just a mom probably trying to use alcohol to mask trauma or something she was going through. It’s BS the cops are blaming the victim. Shame on them
@ra.h.8840
Жыл бұрын
RIP 🪦 💐
@reavanante2160
Жыл бұрын
Locating people alive or dead after previous searches in the same area known events in a certain percentage of missing people searches. Claims of alcoholism are just that. Claims. People make a living off of helping others isn't a victimless profession. What is pertinent is that she was having experiences that were making her question her stability and attributing it to alcohol. Most alcoholics exhibit physical effects that can be seen. Unfortunately no one can ask her now. I'm so sorry for her and her family.
@Joni_Sash
Жыл бұрын
Nicola didn’t appear impaired based on door cam footage. Why allow ur spouse to drive kids to school impaired? Somethings off 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩 #truthForNicolaBulley
@danielle912
Жыл бұрын
I think its disgusting that Nicola's reputation has be ruined over the release of this information, a woman that walks her dog on long walks every morning doesn't seem like a person with a drinking issue to me. Nobody knows the cause of death at the moment. R.I.P Nicola and love to her family.
@Innerlight320
Жыл бұрын
You dont need a reputation when gone
@jamessones4044
Жыл бұрын
The police ‘miraculously got the exact number of days’ that she would be found ….. Really?
@Fairy71128
Жыл бұрын
He body was found on the reeds, not in water!
@dannylad1600
Жыл бұрын
Her body was still in the water.
@Joni_Sash
Жыл бұрын
So what @Tat Ulya? 🤦♀️
@moggpiano8043
Жыл бұрын
*ON* the reeds? How the fuck does that work? You clearly know nothing. Speculation without knowledge. *JUST STOP!!*
@peternovellie6409
Жыл бұрын
The police are being blamed for releasing information on Nicola's mental state and drinking problem that should have been kept private. I get that, but doesn't it perpetuate the wrong attitude to such problems, that they are shameful and cannot be admitted? Exposure should hopefully bring empathy, not condemnation. Thanks for covering this Dr Grande
@petalblossom96
Жыл бұрын
Fair point but perhaps the issue is timing. Their decision to release that information when they did has perplexed even highly experienced police professionals. It can only serve to increase speculation and deflect from the growing criticism of the police investigation. And while I am sure many feel more compassion for her in light of this information, it has only fed the gossip machine even more. Frankly, I think you overestimate people. Criticism over compassion is the way of the world.
@kimberlywalker_
Жыл бұрын
The second she hit the cold water, she would have the reflex to inhale. Same reason so many would die of drowning in Tudor England. Heavy wet clothes and cold water.
@franm.8343
Жыл бұрын
I have experience of heavy persistent drinking by some of my family members, various friends, and some acquaintances. Nicola did not have the appearance of a heavy drinker. Also, who called the police to her home, and who said she had a drinking problem?? If it was just her partner, then it's suspicious. But if it was her mother and father who told the police that Nicola appeared to be drinking heavily, fair enough.
@buzzin-hornet
Жыл бұрын
I'm still suspicious of her partner. His words/body language and emotions have all seemed off to me. incoming hate in 3, 2, 1...
@TheQueensWish
Жыл бұрын
I also feel that’s a gray area. Now that’s she been found I’m hoping that she herself can prove in some way to her family and investigators what happened to her.
@buzzin-hornet
Жыл бұрын
@@TheQueensWish Obviously this is very unlikely due to the coverage and eyes on this area, but wouldn’t the river be the perfect place to move and re-hide a body, after the river has been searched and declared clear? 🤔
@thelocalmaladroit8873
Жыл бұрын
Whatever happened I feel for her, but I also feel for her two children who have to go on now without a mother. Heartbreaking ❤️🩹
@buzzin-hornet
Жыл бұрын
@@thelocalmaladroit8873 Agree! 😥
@markr6653
Жыл бұрын
The body language experts think he is innocent. Unless you know him personally how can you tell if he was acting off? How many years experience do you have reading body language and what are your qualifications. What other cases have you solved...It would be quite arrogant and nieve to assume your senses are superior to anyone else's, especially experts in the field. No hate intended.
@tracybromage-spencer1882
Жыл бұрын
She was not. Alcoholic. There's been so many speculation of what happened. She was actually at work Zoom call sat on a bench. The dog's ball was in the water. Let's wait for facts.
@krob2327
Жыл бұрын
No evidence the ball was in the water
@L.I.B.B.Y
Жыл бұрын
It’s kinda confusing bc she was a great swimmer so how did she fall in? And apparently she twisted her foot (I DON’T KNOW) and she was walking her dog so did the dog run away or fall in the river aswell? And jump out
@moggpiano8043
Жыл бұрын
*PLEASE* stop this rampant speculation. You clearly know nothing about it. A family is suffering.
@jeanhopman5659
Жыл бұрын
The alcohol is a red herring.
@YANDEX30V
Жыл бұрын
Do you not think mentioning alcohol ism was somewht defamatory? By allowing public to think she was nuts to cover up more heinous possibilities. You can't drink and drive with kids and Paul was at home to see her off tht day.
@jlkitz1775
Жыл бұрын
OMG, WHAT does her being perimenopausal have to do with anything?! Really people 😐🤦🏾♀️...unhappy home; wellness checks & a sloppy investigation. There's a phone & she was a mile away? Come on...😐
@chanelv5373
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the update. I had no idea she had an issue with her alcohol consumption.
@louisemagill8295
Жыл бұрын
According to her partner ! I doubt it very much
@keetahbrough
Жыл бұрын
i don't believe a word police say lol.. but fine. It wasn't a portal. But I bet her family wishes she had gone through a portal and lived her conscious life of Nicola.. alive somewhere else. But because she's been found.. she didn't go *somewhere better*. She's gone.. her consciousness is gone, and that means she's dead. Consciousness is what separates the living Spirit from the removed Spirit. Our bodies die, and our Spirit is *removed* out of it.. back to our common but quite frayed, source.
@moggpiano8043
Жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as "portals" and "spirits". Grow up. Many of these on line sleuths are just using this tragedy to vent their resentment of the law. Probably petty criminals.
@gailtrotman5256
Жыл бұрын
It sounds like the "divers" never dove into the thick reeds where Nicola's body was found. The lead diver whose responsibility it was to get into the water to look for her has been fired and won't be retained for other cases.
@ninjacat4929
Жыл бұрын
It does not explain why her body was no found in search after search of the river and then spotted by walkers who spotted her from the riverbank .
@2_pencil
Жыл бұрын
What happened to her dog if she was walking it when she disappeared?
@mysterybluff6947
Жыл бұрын
Drinking puts the drinker at risk on so many levels. Vulnerability for one. Boyfriend is now trolling even the simplest of comments regarding this case - in some channels. I find that interesting.
@rwaterssydney
Жыл бұрын
Other dog walkers said she was walking her dog with her husband. The pair were in serious debt.
@Jeanninecomeau
Жыл бұрын
There were enough cameras to show who came in and out of the area.
@moggpiano8043
Жыл бұрын
Do you have a source for that rampant speculation, or did you just pull it out of your arse like the rest of the bedroom Poirot's? You are wrong anyway. Nocola Bulley was not married. Just stop.
@SilverSparkles22
Жыл бұрын
The first I've read that. On that day her partner was at home, she dropped the kids off at achool
@danielle912
Жыл бұрын
That wasn't reported on the news , posting stuff like this starts rumors.
@iniquity123
Жыл бұрын
No other dog walkers said that - you're making that up !
@tricia4900
Жыл бұрын
It was the boyfriend who told the police on the first day that she had problems...
@CaramelSunflowers
Жыл бұрын
It is common for rivers including this river to hold bodies for weeks or even months despite sonar, divers etc. There are other similar cases in recent years. Nature has it's own way of doing things.
@rwaterssydney
Жыл бұрын
It was the husband, for the insurance.
@vls3771
Жыл бұрын
Stop it ...
@moggpiano8043
Жыл бұрын
*JUST STOP!!!,* A family is suffering.
@caryncanales4312
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say “definitely” impacts. Perhaps.
@dougie1968
Жыл бұрын
Why did her husband let her drive the kids to school when she has an alcohol problem? Hasn't he heard of drink driving?
@Vixen781
Жыл бұрын
It may have been the dog was at rivers edge when she was on the phone and she put the phone down maybe to rescue him and fell.
@janee6967
Жыл бұрын
It was in the reeds and marsh n tall grass, hard to walk
@jgibbs651
Жыл бұрын
Why is a random American commenting on a UK provincial MISPA case? And speculating on her cause of death and possible underlying health issues. STOP IT.
@CriticalThinkIt
Жыл бұрын
Her body didn’t travel upstream, that’s impossible. She was found in reeds by a road and not in the water.
@judithtrigg1694
Жыл бұрын
Not alcoholic we have one person who said this.look at her face no signs of a person who drinks allot.
@veronagrey6313
Жыл бұрын
What happened to her dog ???
@davidmorris8509
Жыл бұрын
Most of what I am reading here is met with skepticism .In the missing 411 book series this type of incident matches others that have no conclusion and baffles authorities,and yes all victims have alcohol in their systems.Go figure.
@lostmangos
Жыл бұрын
Her "problem" with it was because she was suffering greatly with extreme menopausal symptoms and was struggling greatly with life. The way you said it in the video comes across as she was an alcoholic.
@sngray11
Жыл бұрын
You should do a video on Curtis Arnold who had the audacity to film Nicola’s retrieval from the river and post it on YT and TT. It is so abhorrent that he did that.
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