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@CookieBlitzYT
6 ай бұрын
Ok papa
@crumblingdata5169
6 ай бұрын
Mutahard
@chickenwings6172
6 ай бұрын
Cry me a river. lol
@Hex-Mas
6 ай бұрын
We got fascist in the supreme court. You think nintendo will loose?
@gaminggoof1542
6 ай бұрын
Why can’t an emulator just be, you buy the game then you can emulate it via the chip forever once you get it so it’s legal? Rather than piracy every single new game? That way Nintendo won’t be a hardass and destroy preservation.
@PlayerOne.StartGame
6 ай бұрын
Nintendo would sue an Italian school for having a kid named Mario.
@syloui
6 ай бұрын
If they were dressing up the kid in a red shirt and overalls and have him be their mascot with the catch phrase "wah hooo!" then yes
@Pentazemin7
6 ай бұрын
God forbid anyone named Luigi have a sizeable home.
@Machasnofunds
6 ай бұрын
this killed me🤣🤣
@VyleX87
6 ай бұрын
They probably would if they could get away with it.
@gotoeceaerx
6 ай бұрын
Does anyone even know a Luigi?
@mattguy1773
6 ай бұрын
Losing citra is probably the biggest blow to emulation
@EgoChip
6 ай бұрын
I am sure it is still going to be around. It will just be harder to find.
@Nexias_Faldoran
6 ай бұрын
@@EgoChipoh I’m sure it will still be around, it’s just that whatever we have now is all we have until another 3DS emulator comes along, which will probably take years.
@ImperiumLibertas
6 ай бұрын
@@Nexias_Faldoran this is why all code should be public. You can't stop the FOSS signal
@houragents5490
6 ай бұрын
This is all very very good
@primecelron6764
6 ай бұрын
@@EgoChipnot harder to find just that the maintenance if it will be dead.
@Featuring_Dinty_From_Beef_Stew
6 ай бұрын
*"Stop emulating our games!"* "Then reopen the 3DS/Wii U store so people can buy them legally." *"No!"*
@user-xf4vx4rt3h
6 ай бұрын
you know they wont do that, they want to re-sell it on switch 2 later with brand new game price tag, capitalism ho!
@Maximilian1990
6 ай бұрын
Don't see where's the issue, stores close and products stop being sold all the time.
@Diogo85
6 ай бұрын
@@Maximilian1990 Hardware will eventually die out.
@TomoEriGoto
6 ай бұрын
To add, let us bring up our VC purchases from the 3DS/Wii/U era to the Switch so we can play them! I’m SOL when that hardware becomes impossible to be found or fixed or when Nintendo finally won’t let people redownload their purchases (god you KNOW they want to do it so bad, too!) Ergo, Nintendo can kiss my grits on that front.
@NotSnak
6 ай бұрын
@@Maximilian1990people want to play these games legally dummy
@Jonas43
6 ай бұрын
What makes all of this worse is that Citra the Nintendo 3DS emulator got hit in the crossfire, as they had the same Devteam
@danielsuguwa746
6 ай бұрын
Yeah, which is a huge loss for 3DS emulation, as it is the only sole way to emulate any 3DS games. I'm not sure how it will be going forward, but hopefully we've a second revival for 3DS emulator.
@spookmaster420
6 ай бұрын
Did Citra get shut down? Citra carried in high school
@OkamiLyra
6 ай бұрын
None of you fear for Citra, there's already a lot of reuploads of it. The servers are probably unusable now, there's a good chance it won't be able to be updated (not soon anyway), BUT it can still be used to emulate.
@Jonas43
6 ай бұрын
@@OkamiLyra Thats what I already said. Also I am not talking about their Netplay feature.
@SmashTheAdam
6 ай бұрын
So happy I downloaded it a few months ago, but I'm seeing a lot of emulators shutting down now and I'm worried about the ones that I use like PPSSPP, Dolphin and duckstation
@cat_clan_leader
6 ай бұрын
"Emulators are bad because you can play pirated games on them" Last I checked, you can use both the Switch and 3DS to play pirated games too. Guess we've got to ban those as well smh.
@v4n1ty92
6 ай бұрын
Never once played a pirated copy of a game under an emulator, it's so much easier, especially on 3ds, to just play pirated copies on the official hardware 😂
@ProjectionProjects2.7182
6 ай бұрын
Exactly someone gets it. Just because something COULD be used to do a bad thing dose not mean it SHOULD be made illegal.
@ossisuomalainen
6 ай бұрын
Also that's literally like suing a company making shotguns because some people use them to shoot at people
@randomrhynos
6 ай бұрын
If something was banned because you could do something illegal with it, everything in existence and everything that has ever existed would be banned
@GoofyPoptart
6 ай бұрын
They're just a bunch of cry babies
@lyanreehan
6 ай бұрын
I read the title as "Nintendo Killed You" and it didn't even phase me, that's just something they'd do
@GoGicz
6 ай бұрын
both titles are valid and true.
@mmrchive
6 ай бұрын
Nintendo Yakuza
@akosv96
6 ай бұрын
I'm dead 💀
@martin0499
6 ай бұрын
People named Mario or Zelda should go into hiding from Nintendo
@balsalmalberto8086
6 ай бұрын
@@martin0499and Bowser
@xMutedSilence
6 ай бұрын
If purchasing isn't ownership, then piracy isn't theft.
@GoGicz
6 ай бұрын
complete true.
@Sentarry
6 ай бұрын
Well, you can own a Ferrari but Ferrari has a bunch of rules you agree to when you purchase a car from them. Yes, I know, not a great comparison but companies can do this because they feel their reputation might be in danger and/or they might lose money in the process of modifying their product in the name of their company. Plus Japanese people have a completely different culture and work ethic compared to the rest of the world and this is the sad thing we have to accept and I'm just as upset as the next person.
@Matanumi
6 ай бұрын
@@Sentarryyou will own nothing and pirate it
@zengod6148
6 ай бұрын
Im curious if the yuzu devs were from a country in asia or russia , they wouldnt have to worry about legal issues right?
@jehannesweggen
6 ай бұрын
Uhuh.. might as well Brake into a Car and lay 1000$ in the Mailbox because u Feel like the Car wasn't Worth more than that xD U don't own the Game U just have 1 Piece of Plastic with 1 License u Purchased what u can Copy 1 Time as long the Original License is with it and u can Play only the Original or the Copy and to be Able and Know how to make a Legal Copy u have to be Jimmy Neutron Rofl.. the Average Gamer doesn't even Know how to Tie their Shoelaces and u Seriously think they're Capable to Reverse Engineer a Game ?
@douglasammirati8450
6 ай бұрын
Trying coming to my shittty third world country with no official support from nintendo, where a single switch game can go up to pretty much half a mininum wage.
@emperortgp2424
6 ай бұрын
precisely the reason why I pirate
@Amsel_616
6 ай бұрын
in that case people would say to you "then you shouldn't play it".
@emperortgp2424
6 ай бұрын
@@Amsel_616 Yeah, but the counterargument would be that since piracy already exists, why should one deprive oneself of a fun game just for some vague sense of righteousness? The company is suffering no loss here because it's not a physical object, and if piracy was impossible then that person wouldn't have bought it legitimately anyway.
@Maximilian1990
6 ай бұрын
@@emperortgp2424money you're not paying to the company by gaining illegal access to their product is a physical object tho
@lucasgaleano550
6 ай бұрын
yeah but who cares @@Maximilian1990
@Numerosity
6 ай бұрын
You already know there are gonna be tons of yuzu forks online after this
@AlexTanuki
6 ай бұрын
And citra too
@miserablepileofsecrets
6 ай бұрын
@@AlexTanukiDefinitely Citra. This emulator is what, 3 years old? Somebody probably already done it, we just need to wait
@iJuanfri
6 ай бұрын
there are right now 100 forks that you cant git clone right now dont waste any minute
@guiguig5999
6 ай бұрын
I'm working on a GitHub repo containing Yuzu and Citra's source code and most recent releases along with some other software that is at risk, but it's not complete yet.
@omjushating
6 ай бұрын
@@iJuanfriwhere can i find them?
@SleePixel
6 ай бұрын
losing citra is the worst part because 3DS unlike the switch is no longer being sold, games are no longer printed and the eshop was shut down seriously fuck nintendo
@EgoChip
6 ай бұрын
I never got around to installing Citra on my current computer. I have a real 3DS though so I don't really need an emulator. But it will be back, maybe with a different name.
@SleePixel
6 ай бұрын
@@EgoChip I sure hope so
@v4n1ty92
6 ай бұрын
@@EgoChipI have a virgin 3ds and a homebrewed 2ds but my hands are way too big to be able to comfortably use either one anymore, so that's the reason I dumped and emulate my 3ds games
@stanzacosmi
6 ай бұрын
Check out lime3DS it's already back@@EgoChip
@jxwong_3982
6 ай бұрын
They updated the 3DS firmware in a (ultimately futile) bid to stop 3DS hacking too, a couple months after they shut down the eShop. The lack of access to their games has never been a limiting factor to Nintendo-they WANT their games to be inaccessible anywhere other than through their own official pipeline so they can thoroughly control supply (and prices, and demand) using the Disney vault strategy. Nintendo is definitely the most openly aggressive copyright landlord in the video game industry today.
@ultimate8948
6 ай бұрын
The fact dolphin has survived for this long is a miracle in a half
@SS64DD
6 ай бұрын
I think it has to do with the fact that nintendo doesn't care about the wii as much, but when dolphin went on steam they shut that down so fast. I think that nintendo is ok with it to an extent, but once you get off github and market yourself to average consumers, they will take you down a peg. really what nintendo is doing is making sure that the emulation scene stays as un-bothersome as possible to them
@crazyfloof
6 ай бұрын
Dolphin has been out way longer than yuzu or rujinx so i think it would be safe
@nighttimestalker
6 ай бұрын
They have no grounds. Emulation it's self is legal. And Nintendo can't get them. Yuzu fucked up and did some stupid shit with Totk. That's why they could be hit.
@muccmaster
6 ай бұрын
Think the problem is Yuzu was taking money for their emulator development. Dolphin and most other emulators were made without money involved which is why they're all still around.
@tripslord9029
6 ай бұрын
What half is the miracle inside?
@4RILDIGITAL
6 ай бұрын
It's a real shame to witness this escalation by Nintendo. While their legal stance can be somewhat understood, the ethical and moral aspect related to the preservation of these games is a crucial factor that should not be overlooked. Hope we find a better solution to this issue.
@DASHFULplays
6 ай бұрын
Yeah... but not when it's still the current console and main source of income. 20 year old consoles/games, 100% yes. This seems like a "wolf in sheepsuit" argument when it's regarding CURRENT gen.
@Kuzor
6 ай бұрын
@@DASHFULplays I think also yuzu having a version behind a paywall is what led Nintendo to go after them. Ryujinx the other switch emulator is completely fine by the looks of things and they do not lock versions behind paywalls.
@Tronasaurusrex2
6 ай бұрын
It's not preservation when the games are readily available.
@melley420
6 ай бұрын
Official emulators and paid rom files?
@melley420
6 ай бұрын
I kinda see the point of suing the people behind YuZu because the Switch is Nintendo's main source of income but Citra?! Man the Nintendo 3DS is from 2011 they don't even sell those games anymore.
@GANONdork123
6 ай бұрын
Although Citra got caught in the crossfire of this, I think the way Citra handled encrypted games was the best way to go about it. Don't include encryption keys, don't give instructions to users on how to obtain them or what software is required, just make the emulator itself unable to run encrypted games, putting the onus on the user to figure out how to decrypt the games themselves to run them. Sure, it makes the emulator less beginner friendly, but it would put them in the clear in regards to the DMCA.
@bonkman6463
6 ай бұрын
yeah ryujinx did this so I doubt they will be screwed
@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong
6 ай бұрын
@@bonkman6463im not going to exclude something else that could kill ryujinx at this point
@A39pro
6 ай бұрын
@@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong ryujinx is even harder to sue if not impossible because of the fact you need to find a way to decrypt games and you need to get the keys for the emulator with means there's nothing legally wrong with ryujinx with means Nintendo can't do a thing
@livanwijaya8340
6 ай бұрын
and ryujinx based on brazil too where the law is lax for this sort of thing so... i relieved for that 👍
@kirby21-xz4rx
6 ай бұрын
@@A39prowe all said the same thing about yuzu and and we all saw it doesnt matter if nintendo is in the wrong if they decide to sue you with how much cash they have you better be albke ti defend yourself against their lawyers or you will be put to the ground
@dasaiyantv8483
6 ай бұрын
Citra going down alongside Yuzu sucks, cause at least Ryujinx still exists for the Switch, but now 3DS emulation is dead
@Ecliptor.
6 ай бұрын
I'm sure some heroes will spawn one at some point
@backupschmliff1156
6 ай бұрын
Damn. I downloaded Yuzu but not Citra.
@HippeusOmega
6 ай бұрын
@@backupschmliff1156 I was able to still download Citra from the main site
@soragranda
6 ай бұрын
Panda3DS exist, and is not like citra will stop working, before this whole thing people make backups and will be eventually Online for everyone. Be serious will ya XD.
@xebenatrosxeracroft5178
6 ай бұрын
I never got to play around with Yuzu, good thing it's just sitting on a drive at home.
@obamacare6575
6 ай бұрын
The Citra Team was awesome man, had a crashing issue with Pokemon ORAS and the team immediately responded, found the issue in the code, and updated the flatpak. You Will be Missed.
@DeevDaRabbit
6 ай бұрын
Meanwhile with Star Fox 643D: Graphics issues Certain levels are upside down Runs like ass They refused to fix it
@M64bros
6 ай бұрын
So You must not have heard about the whole having a Patreon to fund the emulator situation
@M64bros
6 ай бұрын
@@DeevDaRabbit oh yeah....
@cuma212
6 ай бұрын
the Citra team was the same Yuzu team
@IAMNOTRANA
6 ай бұрын
I'm not sure what you're talking about. Citra project was pretty much dead or was in slow ass development process. They pretty much abandon it over Yuzu cuz people were paying mad money on patreon.
@mldrdi7970
6 ай бұрын
I live in in a third world country where average wage is about 140-150$ and let's say a game costs 60$, i obviously can't get it, unless i starve myself to death. I've been pirating games since my childhood, not because i want to but because i just have no other choice, i will start buying games when the prices are made fair by having a dedicated store to my region with dedicated prices or something like that.
@ashurad_fox5991
6 ай бұрын
I live in a 3rd world country as well, prices fluctuate depending where you are... Here legit copies of switch games cost about 2k Php or about $40. Since the games are imported from the US, AU or EU (Even 3ds games rn rose in price, previously it's just 500 Php or $10. And now it's 1k Php or $20...) Still pricey, but it's not like I'm buying one every month... At most I only buy 2 games a year. It's a good thing I already have bought what games I wanted, but it kinda suck that nintendo is really hammering down on Emu (and not even importing games to pc which is an untapped market) I do wanted to play games like MHGen/MHGU, MH4U, and MH3U as I get older.... And my 3ds is already starting to show signs of degredation. (the right trigger is now faulty, and need to blow air to it to make it work properly) But I don't think Nintendo will follow Sony or Microsoft's path of tapping into other platforms. This action by nintendo proves Gabe's quote on piracy true to this day "Piracy is a service problem", and nintendo does have that problem
@Maximilian1990
6 ай бұрын
Just because you are poor you're not entitled to steal something 😭
@IDontKnow-ry7do
6 ай бұрын
@@Maximilian1990Piracy is not stealing.
@noko3625
6 ай бұрын
piracy is fundamentally different from theft@@Maximilian1990
@Maximilian1990
6 ай бұрын
@@IDontKnow-ry7do piracy is stealing
@EvenlyDay
6 ай бұрын
If Nintendont thinks this will encourage people to not emulate AND pirate. They are so wrong. It will be the opposite effect.
@ThePopo543
6 ай бұрын
Very true. I never cared about switch games or even planned to play any of them at all in my lifetime, but thanks to this new L move from sh* ttendo, I'm gonna do it out of spite.
@murlocmaster6192
6 ай бұрын
wich is a darn shame. i have a extremely early model of the Nintendo Switch, and it has a hardware issue that allows me to easily jailbreak it and get ANY game i want on the store for free, and nobody wuld be able to stop me cuz its a hardware issue. Yet i havent even thought about it. Yea i get it, the economy sucks ass and nobody wants to fork 70 bucks for a game, but nintendo, for the most part, has always given us the most quality games and experiences, and is still much more affordable than both Sony and Microsoft while still in my opinion being the more consistent of the 3 putting out heavy hitter after heavy hitter. even when they fart out something as awful as pokemon Scarlet and Violet, they still kick ass.....somehow. I think people dont appreciate Nintendo for what they are, and how much they havent changed their essence and passion. They do their best even when they do things i dont like. Wich is more than i can say for most companies. I will pay for my games, i will repsect them, and share my passion alongside nintendo.
@GoGicz
6 ай бұрын
@@murlocmaster6192 more affordable? since when? let's see you have to buy a switch first alright already more expensive btw, and then buy the game wow and im already more than 340€ down the hole, meanwhile xbox or ps, most people already have a pc so they just buy the game, which is 60-70€, well i think i see the difference.
@Matanumi
6 ай бұрын
Its a service problem. Has no one but fuckin listening to lord gabe?
@TheGamingMexican69
6 ай бұрын
I think I'm done with Nintendo just boycott them. Talk with our wallets. Obviously, they don't want us to buy the games they make.
@meteor22
6 ай бұрын
Nintendo puts so much more effort into stopping emulation than just providing a service that gives ppl why they are doing this in the 1st place.
@strifej1333
6 ай бұрын
The people who want to buy/play really old games are miniscule. There's no business reason to provide them. They'll sell.. a few hundred copies?
@krishm7812
6 ай бұрын
@@strifej1333 they could have a subscription service and make an xbox gamepass like thing, which im sure tons of people would buy
@NaughtyJuri
6 ай бұрын
@@strifej1333 Tomb Raider Remastered made 1.9 million alot of the games you play are Old IP’s this comment made no sense.
@Milky____
6 ай бұрын
@@strifej1333 Explain all the old games Nintendo brings to the switch then? LOL?
@jeffrielly
6 ай бұрын
What's going to end up having to happen to video games is the same thing that has happened to books, movies, and tv shows where stuff ends up as lost media, and seeing as to how this is Nintendo it will have to be something that is iconic to their brand such as the original Donkey Kong, or the original Mario Bros that will end up having to go doen that path, and THEN AND ONLY THEN will Nintendo FINALLY get it!
@Weareonenation303
6 ай бұрын
No one seems to hate video game preservation more than Nintendo, then they question why people pirate their games LOOOOOOOOL.
@Dragoneye2427
6 ай бұрын
You forgot about sony. Hopefully nothing happens to any of the ps emulators.
@vagamer522
6 ай бұрын
@@Dragoneye2427wait sauce?
@slipinslider
6 ай бұрын
I would have pre ordered pokemon heartgold for the switch while the GameCube was still out. It doesn't make sense
@androidps1440
6 ай бұрын
@@Dragoneye2427 nothing is gonna happen they don't have the power and money for it anymore
@reyjimenz
6 ай бұрын
“Game preservation” is when stealing modern games.
@milesseawind
6 ай бұрын
If buying is not owning Piracy is not stealing
@running5850
6 ай бұрын
You can literally buy copies of their games though, on cartridge. Nintendo fully supports physical still with their first party releases. You can actually own a copy that Nintendo can't do anything about. This argument only makes sense in a digital only landscape.
@milesharris249
6 ай бұрын
I want to put this quote on my wall 👌
@yoshitsune5691
6 ай бұрын
@@running5850and sadly someone actually stole my physical copies of the games, soo thank god I had them backed up.
@Maximilian1990
6 ай бұрын
dumb take
@makeitthrough_
6 ай бұрын
@@Maximilian1990Yes, you've been spewing a ton of them. Good on you for becoming self aware
@baddragonite
6 ай бұрын
I don't pirate games. Hearing stories like this makes me want to pirate games
@xxNiceLeaderxx
6 ай бұрын
They are not selling 3DS games new anymore so piracy for abandonware should be ok
@zero1action27
6 ай бұрын
Dude, they were locking builds behinds patreon and people were pretty much playing a game before it was released which is illegal and unethical because it spoiled the game for everyone who was going to buy the game. If they were like Ryujinx then Yuzu will still be up.
@zero1action27
6 ай бұрын
@@xxNiceLeaderxx Citron was a casualty in all this because of the Yuzu devs stupidity.
@Shadoallcaps
6 ай бұрын
@@zero1action27 YEs and it makes me sad
@Whiteshade
6 ай бұрын
Downloaded bunch of pirated nintendo games after the news. I've been seeding the torrents since then, probably going to setup a pi just for seeding. I don't know how people seed these days. And Nintendo is not exist in my region officially, no language support, store or anything, I have to use US account and address to buy their games. I've been buying physical copies like a fool.
@mauriciohiure2192
6 ай бұрын
the joke is, the switch is at the end of it's life and Yuzu was in basically a near perfect state as of the latest build, and it's not like Yuzu builds will magically disappear from the internet, so piracy will literally continue to exist with Switch games and there's NOTHING Big N can do about it, they can cry me a river, if stopping piracy was their main goal then we can say they went this far to take down Yuzu for literally nothing
@crimson-foxtwitch2581
6 ай бұрын
Plus, there’s the fact that Ryujinx exists. Switch emulation is FAR from dead. And many, many piracy cracks of Switch games on PC also ship with copies of Yuzu lmfaooooooo
@TheMahayanist
6 ай бұрын
Yeah, the ONLY thing Nintendo did is make games less accessible for people. And the way they can stop "piracy" is by making their games more accessible, not less.
@AZBCDE
6 ай бұрын
WEAK ARGUMENT, That not an excuse for piracy, you sound childish
@Korodarn
6 ай бұрын
@@AZBCDE No one needs to excuse sharing and copying. You need to excuse monopoly grants by the state that take away rights people naturally have to use their property as they desire.
@DrakonR
6 ай бұрын
@@AZBCDENintendo is not going to sleep with you..
@erc3338
6 ай бұрын
I care more about Citra being taken down. Since, y'know, *Nintendo stopped caring about it.*
@joshjlmgproductions3313
6 ай бұрын
@@TheSearchForTruth88That's the thing - Most people who used Yuzu did buy their games, and they needed to buy a Switch to port those games to Yuzu.
@Redslayer86
6 ай бұрын
Its super easy to get the hardware and games again for the 3ds.@@TheSearchForTruth88
@КГБКолДжорджКостанца
6 ай бұрын
not a challenging task@@TheSearchForTruth88
@TheSearchForTruth88
6 ай бұрын
@@joshjlmgproductions3313 Pointless.
@beto31890
6 ай бұрын
@@joshjlmgproductions3313that’s such bullshit lmao
@Alex-hj2jd
6 ай бұрын
Screw them for ending Citra. It wasn't even complete and now it will never be. It still needed streetpass functionality.
@supereststinger
6 ай бұрын
Rest in peace, my favorite emulator. I'm backing it up to a separate hard drive. I don't want to lose this. I recommend you do the same.
@reddawn1873
6 ай бұрын
but from its ashes more will come
@PhantomOfficial07
6 ай бұрын
unofficial forks will still happen tho, esp since the source code is public, anyone can make their own updates to Citra
@fco64
6 ай бұрын
Don't worry more project will happear
@niospartan
6 ай бұрын
I wonder if having 20 million plus hackable switches helped facilitate piracy but surprisingly nintendo can't sue itself.
@atomictransfusion
6 ай бұрын
they can't sue nvidia*
@Maximilian1990
6 ай бұрын
Yeah people usually sue themselves when they get robbed
@Toomnyusernae
6 ай бұрын
I’d love for there to be a clause stating they cannot be sued. Such as suing themselves.
@johnsober
6 ай бұрын
While Nintendo is definitely scummy for going about this in the way that they did, that's a really dumb argument. Naivety does not vindicate those who exploited it. I don't mind people saying they approve of piracy or they don't think anyone should shed a tear over massive corporations losing profits. But that kind of mental gymnastics is just dumb.
@Astroqualia
6 ай бұрын
If they could have they already would have
@ultraprimez
6 ай бұрын
R.I.P Yuzu & Citra. it was an amazing journey. Thanks to EMU Kings.
@Ebani
6 ай бұрын
Why the exagerated goodbye? They're literally Open Source and You can easily get the code
@tommax1626
6 ай бұрын
@@Ebani Yes you can get the 2024 version there, that will be the case in 5 years+ but it is now discontinued, no updates and it will eventually die out and be forgotten.
@Ebani
6 ай бұрын
@@tommax1626 You completely missed the point, Open Source means anybody can work on it or use it to work on another emulator
@tommax1626
6 ай бұрын
@@Ebani I guess you missed it, right now the source code is down, some people still have it of course but what team wants to work on it right now?, sometime in the future it will be overtaken but don´t just say it will get back to normal, Yuzu was established and the dev team had enough ressources to work on this project because they were known, you can´t just get that back with a snap of two fingers if at all, maybe a direct Yuzu competetor will overtake them and it will be the better Yuzu? I am all for it but don´t say stuff so lightly!
@Wileybot2004
6 ай бұрын
Not really, Yuzu devs were scumbags who stole code from people and passed it off as their own and sold beta builds made specifically for pirating tears of the kingdom before release.
@SalahAbdullah97
6 ай бұрын
as once lord Gaben said “Piracy is a service problem.”.
@Lucromis
6 ай бұрын
This. Nintendo offers literally the worst in online and anything convenient with accessing old games services. People would pay them more than they get with lawyers to play games on any device. Being stuck on one platform to play a certain game is old business practices now.
@endthepainnowplz4674
6 ай бұрын
I’ve never pirated anything available on Steam, He’s right. I want to support companies that provide a good service, but less inclined if their service is crap.
@SalahAbdullah97
6 ай бұрын
@@endthepainnowplz4674 Exactly! That's the reason I love steam because they provide good service that we don't need to go to pirated games
@theakiwar9118
6 ай бұрын
Understandable if it is an outdated system. But if you want a current gen game, get the fucking device it’s on
@Maximilian1990
6 ай бұрын
Don't like the service don't buy the service. Just because it's bad doesn't mean you can steal it 😂😭😂
@kemix1006
6 ай бұрын
Here's the thing, Yuzu eas hiding a LOT behind it's patreon. They had a stash of roms and codes to unlock the encryption in its discord, paywalling stuff that improved BOTW/TOTK behind it's patreon, THEY WERE EVEN COLLECTING USER DATA AND STORING IT BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. Yuzu had this coming from a mile away, not to mention, they turned over everything to Nintendo. Which means, the data of everyone they collected? In Nintendo's hands now. They settled and sold you out to save their own asses. Yuzu was thought to be Robbin Hood, but they were in actuality more along the lines of Prince John.
@Mirage475
6 ай бұрын
Problem is most people aren’t smart enough to realize this. Had it been just an open source emulator there would be no problems
@smsry
6 ай бұрын
They definitely didn't paywall shit that improved totk, i know that so that's just straight up wrong. What data can an emulator which runs games collect? And your comment insinuates Yuzu did this all so they can sell the data to Nintendo.. like what? U do know that Yuzu has to pay 2.4 million as charges because of this whole fiasco right? They didn't just get away with it. They got royally fucked
@kemix1006
6 ай бұрын
@@smsry They paywalled stuff that made TOTK/BOTW work better behind their patreon you fool, including what I assume were bug fixes and ways to make the game run better, and that's not getting into the actual roms and codes for said roms they had on their public discord. And yes, there wasn't necessarily a "ton" of user data they were using, but the Patreon was also handed over to Nintendo as part of the settlement, what that means is still up in the air, but the fact they handed over everything involved with Yuzu, including data they took with the Telemetry stuff, is still not a good look for them to save their own hides, minus the 2-something million they have to give out of pocket, collectively.
@bruhcoin2361
6 ай бұрын
@@smsrydont know anything about what yuzu did, but any company can collect lots of data on users by connecting to their servers (ip, location, device info, etc) His comment did not insinuate that they were selling it to nintendo, don't know where you got that from. The op said that an open source emulator was breaching privacy by taking the data and hiding what they took, whatever they did with it doesn't matter. And because they took data, it's all in the hands of nintendo now. They could've fought for it or better yet not collect it in the first place is what the op is saying.
@Arlock41
6 ай бұрын
"When one falls, many others will take it's place." I don't remember where I heard/saw that quote but I think it applies here in this situation.
@matthewmizrachi1877
6 ай бұрын
Sounds like something about a hydra
@waleed03231
6 ай бұрын
Captain America, I think? The quote goes; "Cut off one head, two more will take its place." Nintendo is fighting a huge ass Hydra; the Internet
@OGkrymsonclouds
6 ай бұрын
@@waleed03231not captain america man its a piece of greek myth...
@waleed03231
6 ай бұрын
@@OGkrymsonclouds well obviously, but I'm talking about the quote specifically.
@lukedanielgalon1596
6 ай бұрын
thats from winter soldier captain america
@CornyVR.
6 ай бұрын
Fans do what Nintendon’t.
@kazi1
6 ай бұрын
lol
@Abcdefgsthdyje
6 ай бұрын
lol
@cringelord6068
6 ай бұрын
lol
@КГБКолДжорджКостанца
6 ай бұрын
aaaaaaa you wrote that down in a notepad
@marcfatimania
6 ай бұрын
Sega does what nintendon't..
@Kachopper9
6 ай бұрын
So What Nintendo is trying to say is I should pirate their games.
@AlphaNeon
6 ай бұрын
Yes :)
@4xI
6 ай бұрын
Absolutly
@redgariel
6 ай бұрын
Aren't we already doing it using yuzu?
@xeylzo7001
6 ай бұрын
@@redgariel Not necessarily. Not all emulation enjoyers are pirates.
@FineWine-v4.0
6 ай бұрын
How about no, just make a copycat version of their games (like PalWorld) & Drive them out of business
@osnofa__
6 ай бұрын
With Yuzu I can kinda understand why they got it shut down since the switch is still a manufactured system and the Totk situation, but with Citra it makes no sense, the 3ds store is dead and the system isn't being manufactured so it doesn't matter if you buy a 3ds system or game second hand the money will never reach Nintendo
@brianemo6208
6 ай бұрын
Nintendo wants total control of all of their namesakes. Eventually, 20 years from now on Nintendo online, they will add the 3ds section with 10 games. Alot of people will subscribe for that. Or at least... That's what Nintendo thinks for some reason lol
@ace94d
6 ай бұрын
Citra likely just got shut down due to being the same devs from the settlement.
@ohnobro3770
6 ай бұрын
Luigi’s mansion 2 remake on switch they’re dipping into the 3ds remake pie now lol they want that baby gone for this reason
@robmalcolm8042
6 ай бұрын
Yeah it's probably cause they were the ones developing it too and for obvious current circumstances they can't develop it anymore. Also could be cause they lost all dedication as well.
@PluckyJackson
6 ай бұрын
@brianemo6208 nintendo did not ask for citra to be shut down nor was it even mentioned in the lawsuit. The yuzu devs just shut it down to cover their asses a bit as they also worked on citra
@desexeddoggo2520
6 ай бұрын
man a 1.5tb SD card for my modded switch is looking real good right now for some piracy
@fridlwintr7004
6 ай бұрын
I'm so glad Nintendo made such a big fuzz about a small open source project. Gave enough exposure to the whole thing me for me to snatch the emulator and the entire Switch library in time. Actually they made a good precedent about how important game preservation is.
@Maximilian1990
6 ай бұрын
Ok thief
@flooriiian
6 ай бұрын
@@Maximilian1990 cry harder and take it deep HAHAHAHAA
@davisconnor6307
6 ай бұрын
@@Maximilian1990 🤡
@Ebani
6 ай бұрын
@@Maximilian1990 Piracy isn't theft tho, You need to steal for that, copying a file does not constitute as such
@WarningStrangerDanger
6 ай бұрын
Yuzu screwed up by collecting money and not practicing proper opsec. For decades, emulation was purely done by hobbyists as passion projects. The second it scaled up and generated money and most importantly- put real people behind it that could be found and sued, Yuzu signed its death warrant.
@tvsonicserbia5140
6 ай бұрын
Actually, Bleem! was a commercial physical product, a PS1 emulator while PS1 was still around, officially promoted by Apple for their computers and it won in court.
@Rylika
6 ай бұрын
pretty sure ryujinx is also collecting money like YUZU is doing, guessing they will go under soon as well
@Wesmoen
6 ай бұрын
Cemu has a patreon and it's doing fine.
@Lucromis
6 ай бұрын
There will be better replacements in a few years.
@alcomedianblobfish
6 ай бұрын
@@Rylika The difference (from what I hear) is that Ryujinx doesn't lock builds behind their Patreon. Now, that was never part of the lawsuit and so how relevant it is is dubious, but whatcha gonna do.
@marshallh7785
6 ай бұрын
dont tell nintendo that everyone has been emulating pokemon for literally 15 years
@pastqr
6 ай бұрын
Old games. Yuzu is emulating their current system.
@origon4477
6 ай бұрын
Not many emulators are also getting monetary benefits from emulation. I think that's a big difference here
@Tailslol
6 ай бұрын
More like 20 with vba.
@christopherwilliams9418
6 ай бұрын
These days it's the only way to play pokemon lol, modern retail pokemon with no mods is hot doodoo butter
@bgill7475
6 ай бұрын
more than 20 for me, I remember playing Pokemon Gold from a floppy disk I got off someone from school with an emulator on there too.
@MRTHEBREAD
6 ай бұрын
When you made that video about YUZU and nintendo lawsuit, I instantly downloaded Citrus and Yuzu and created a backup hard drive folder(I don't have them downloaded because I constantly clean out my PC) i have to say thank Muta for the heads up
@Cube_Box
6 ай бұрын
same here I forgot to download the apk build though as I had downloaded yuzu through the player store. I have the source code of yuzu so it might be possible to compile it into an APK? dunno
@anon_y_mousse
6 ай бұрын
@@Cube_Box If you know how to do Android development, then yeah. I suggest looking up guides for how to do it. Although, if you're not a developer then you likely won't know how to resolve conflicts should they arise, but give it a shot and see how far you can get in the process. If you have any technical aptitude, then consider learning how to program, how to setup a build environment for things like this, but if you give it a go, learn Linux because it makes development ten times easier.
@Cube_Box
6 ай бұрын
@@anon_y_mousse yeah I'm familiar with Linux and android development as I have worked on several apps in the past I didn't have to compile the apk from source as I have found the built apk from github actions in the wayback machine
@Anshumansahu23
6 ай бұрын
@@anon_y_mousseso from today I won't be able to play Nintendo games on yuzu...(i already had it downloaded)
@achillesrossberg6652
6 ай бұрын
If there is something I learn from internet all the time, it’s the following: you can never stop the community
@samf.s.7731
6 ай бұрын
Emulation is an idea, and ideas are bulletproof 😂 I'm just saying it's ironically very fitting here 😂😂😂
@jehannesweggen
6 ай бұрын
Uhuh.. that's why Gary Bowser has bin someone's Bish for 40 Months xD his Cornholio is going to be Raw Beef for the rest of his life and if your into that go Ahead and see and feel what happens Rofl...
@replikvltyoutube3727
6 ай бұрын
But you can stop a company, or team (which isn't based in some lawless place)
@thesunreport
6 ай бұрын
There's a problem though. You're only able to watch this video and comment on it because Mutahar's channel isn't being replicated to the point where the original source has been finacially compromised to the point of collapse. I'm not advocating for excessive profitability for Nintendo, but realism suggests that people can be very selective about who's intellectual property should be 'fair game' and who's should be protected. In this case people seem angry about protecting Nintendo's intellectual property, but would be annoyed and upset if it was someone that they actually did care about.
@jehannesweggen
6 ай бұрын
Yes if your in Place with Law and your Information is Traceable it could mean Trouble but if u use an Emulator there's not much to worry about but Yuzu was a Supplier with Patreon etc. so yeah they got on the Radar..@@replikvltyoutube3727
@paparoxo3606
6 ай бұрын
Nintendo is like: "We want people to have fun, bun we define how fun works".
@Micchi-
6 ай бұрын
It's like that spongebob party episode
@jehannesweggen
6 ай бұрын
Uhuh.. that's called being Right by Law to Create something and that u Own that to be Produced and to be Consumed by others who Agree to Terms of Use and Services xD if Nintendo is so Horrible why bother then with them ?
@ProjectionProjects2.7182
6 ай бұрын
Exactly! Its all about power.
@ProjectionProjects2.7182
6 ай бұрын
@@jehannesweggen Terms of use dose not overrule law.
@zultriova89
6 ай бұрын
@@ProjectionProjects2.7182exactly how this world work.. weak wont survive..
@thiagocampos2719
6 ай бұрын
I'm from Brazil, here it's very difficult to have access to games due to high prices and bad government we have a devalued currency, emulators gave me the chance to play games from the franchises I love
@dopaminedreams1122
6 ай бұрын
Australia is pretty bad as well, inflation over the last 5 years has made modern games cost $100 AUD on average which is Insane, I remember when switch came originally out, new games were no more than like $50 aud lmao.
@mountain342
6 ай бұрын
People in the US will complain about a game costing them $70-100, but they never had to pay the equivalent of $250++ for a game.
@jehannesweggen
6 ай бұрын
I'm sorry to hear that but aren't Prices Adjusting to that ? if i buy shop cards for XB there's a Huge difference between cards for Netherlands and other countries sometimes around 50% or more so i pay 100€ for 100€ while someone else pays only 50€ for the same 100€ maybe u should skip 1 generation and wait for Super Switch so Hardware & Software prices for Switch decline and Good luck I'm sure things will go better cause it always does at some time.. Cheer!
@loheroi
6 ай бұрын
well don't play game then, is not like you gonna die or something, atleast dont justify piracy. there a lot of free and cheap indie game if you want to play video game, if it is your beloved franchises then you can save your money to buy it, is not like your favorite franchise came out every month right ?, i agree with muta that the only good reason for emulator is for preservation
@rodrigonoal
6 ай бұрын
Honestly people don't quite get how ridiculous prices are for us (Brazilian too). AAA games cost at least a third of our minimal salary, and consoles cost half a year of work. Sometimes people from out of our country are entitled, and feel like 80 dollars is expensive, when for us it would be the equivalent of 300 dollars for a piece of software.
@YOKIMY2000
6 ай бұрын
Emulation is the greatest thing that benefits players and generations of players to come , my ps vita is hacked and completely modded to emulate any retro game I want, I never would imagine I’d have access to the whole PlayStation vita psp and ps1 catalog completely free
@techzonekid
6 ай бұрын
10 years later nintendo will be using emulation for the switch virtual console for SURE
@Davitron_87
6 ай бұрын
And you’ll be forced to purchase the games again on said future platform.
@fabianbandaiii3304
6 ай бұрын
Right?! Because like the post said not only did they shut it down they handed everything over to them. So not only did Nintendo shut down an emulator they basically stole someone else's work.
@BerserkJeffy
6 ай бұрын
Using specifically yuzu
@ShooberTimber
6 ай бұрын
Yep, that's literally what NSO even is. Did folks really think Shitendo was actually porting those old games onto the Switch via their online services? Lmao.
@techzonekid
6 ай бұрын
@@ShooberTimber the only reason they cant port(emulate) the 3DS games to switch is because the switch is too weak for 3DS emulation
@hiho9149
6 ай бұрын
"Here is what you can and what you can't do with the thing you legally obtained". In the name of copyright protection, companies are essentially allowed to make laws to bully people into submission. I'm going insane thinking judges cannot comprehend this.
@pm_me_ur_gluons
6 ай бұрын
It's not that judges cannot comprehend it, someone simply had the brilliant idea to make corruption legal when you use a fancy name of "lobbying."
@kenetickups6146
6 ай бұрын
Judges are bought and paid for
@Cobalt985
6 ай бұрын
Yep. Fucking insane. I will never buy a device that isn't considered fully my own. Nor use an operating system that isn't mine to modify.
@Ushi_archive
6 ай бұрын
W punpun pfp
@marrizard
6 ай бұрын
@SomeOrdinaryGamers reading articles about this - yuzu settled with Nintendo so that this suit wouldn't be tested in court. If it was tested and Nintendo won, then we should be super worried. I think yuzu made a huge sacrifice for emulation as a whole.
@TheDarkAngel969
6 ай бұрын
Doesn't exactly help either that, according to leaked discord screenshots, Nintendo actually had a case against them, and could've won. Which was why Yuzu settled out of court.
@zultriova89
6 ай бұрын
@@TheDarkAngel969literally what that guy above said..
@Gehrich_
6 ай бұрын
Weren't they being sued for circumventing technological measures? That's a long set matter with a few precedents from back in the 90's and later reaffirmed by the Geohot case in the 2010's. Edit: To clarify, settling in this instance doesn't protect emulation as a whole. No new precedent was going to be made.
@akosv96
6 ай бұрын
Settling cases on Discord 💀💀💀💀
@TheDarkAngel969
6 ай бұрын
@@akosv96 I said Yuzu's discord chats leaked, someone took screenshots and posted them online. not that they were settling the court on discord. Learn to read
@MachiriReviews
6 ай бұрын
Nah, they fucked up and gave Nintendo justification by paywalling optimized versions of the emulator. They got caught lacking, and locking shit behind paywalls doesn’t help game preservation. So fuck em.
@xeylzo7001
6 ай бұрын
"Piracy is an issue of service" -Gabe Newell Most people pirate Nintendo games so they can play these games on hardware that isn't horribly outdated.
@Lucromis
6 ай бұрын
Yuzu gave me a way to play their new game with modern resolutions and other conveniences. I literally bought the game, and then wound up playing it more on Yuzu. It was superior in every way to play with their pro controller on my PC.
@jase276
6 ай бұрын
Well, that, and mods
@Xderda
6 ай бұрын
I bought ToTK day one on the switch and completed it because I thought it'd be the best experience at the time, but if I was going to replay it today I would 100% use an emulator because it's straight up a superior experience technically (with mod support too). Nintendo could solve a lot of problems if they just ported their titles to other platforms, but they have absolutely no interest in that and probably never will.
@js100serch
6 ай бұрын
I've been telling people this since 2007 with the Wii. Ever since the Wii came out fans and Nintendo themselves developed this stupid mentality where "graphics don't matter, Nintendo doesn't need to have a powerful console anymore, Nintendo is special and doesn't need to compete with the rest". Well here we are, this tendency of being always behind is finally catching up with them and now people are pirating their games because they fucking hardware looks 2 generations behind.
@jxwong_3982
6 ай бұрын
People were pirating Nintendo games even before then, Nintendo’s business strategy just excels on this front because their family-friendly general public approach literally allows them to market to casual gamers who care less about stuff like graphics and performance to begin with-which allows them to get away with downsizing on hardware capabilities as long as the games themselves are generally well-developed and serviceable for this casual majority. That’s how Nintendo has been able to depend on their consumer base’s tolerance for weaker hardware for ages. To be fair, this is also why I agree that piracy is not a huge risk for them-the people pirating their games for better performance aren’t comparable to the vast majority buying them for other reasons, they’re a minority, and so the mark it’ll make on their sales is ultimately small.
@elvinmacospag6989
6 ай бұрын
Nintendo: refuses to do discounts and sales, makes getting old games a colossal pain in the ass and wallet, and rabidly attacks emulation Also Nintendo: "Why are people hating us and pirating our games?!"
@Rexhunterj
6 ай бұрын
They also actively shit on their core consumers for a quick buck out of the casual audience. Pokemon specifically is a great example of why you don't sell your soul to the normies.
@hawkeyedsentinel4648
6 ай бұрын
@@Rexhunterjpokemon games aren't even worth a dollar. I brought Dishonored definitely edition for $4 and is better than most switch exclusives. Also doom eternal is like $10
@GenixgoldZ
6 ай бұрын
Exactly that is the problem never saw a discount on those games ever
@Q2FwaXRhbGlzbSBiYWQu
6 ай бұрын
Just a few weeks ago, Super Mario Party (10/10 game) and New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe went on a 33% sale.
@Zyart
6 ай бұрын
@@Q2FwaXRhbGlzbSBiYWQuOh, wow. a 33% sale on a game from the Wii U. Such benevolent corporate overlords.
@mateuszciupa8141
6 ай бұрын
god bless internet archive is a thing
@totallytidmouth
6 ай бұрын
Love the internet archive. Live on that site.
@JamesWilliamsonOFFICIAL
6 ай бұрын
*Their first mistake was selling pieces of the software through Patreon. For future reference; this was something I learned in the early days of emulation, just give people a source to support you-that's it. Don't give ANY type of modifications towards creations; outside of your own, within the revenue support perks-whatsoever! If you're gonna make perks, just direct them towards hobby projects like shirts, art, jewelry etc.-disassociated with your mod software. We all make mistakes, so learn from this and make better moves after; after all, its what we do after the mistakes that define us. Now go be successful~*
@Zer0--Zer0
6 ай бұрын
Having a patreon wasn't the issue, and in fact many other emulator projects support themselves through patreon (even Ryujinx). The reason they settled was because they gave instructions on how to bypass security measures on Switches to dump prod.key files on their official discord, which is illegal.
@ninetailedfox579121
6 ай бұрын
@@Zer0--Zer0 Yeah that much was pretty silly. Like did they think that Nintendo didn't have people in there? Same with the piracy subreddit and the rom database, it is 100% guaranteed that people from the industry know about and monitor these places.
@bitelaserkhalif
6 ай бұрын
I guess it's because totk leak
@gaerekxenos
6 ай бұрын
@@ninetailedfox579121 Yeah... a lot of people in industry will "look the other way" until they simply can't do that anymore. We *get* that people do stuff like that, and some of us have gone through doing that sorta stuff ourselves, and there are almost undoubtedly going to be some people who are still in those circles. And there are clear benefits for stuff like that to exist sometimes too, such as being able to go through a lot of content for inspiration for cheap in an industry where you don't get paid very much/well and the products themselves are costly. It's where and how you start getting more workers who are a bit more educated on game content/trends from the get-go. But once certain lines are crossed, we don't have a choice but to crack down because otherwise it compromises the entire business as a whole with being unable to enforce any sort of copyright whatsoever
@Clownacy
6 ай бұрын
You people have no idea what you're talking about.
@mat5669
6 ай бұрын
Nintendo spending more efforts on Yuzu than providing games with a decent frame rate
@caduhidalgo4996
6 ай бұрын
I'd say providing games at all... Nintendo hasn't competed in the gaming market for the last 10 years or so. The likes of Mario Odyssey, Zelda BotW and ToTK are the absolute exception to the rule.
@bonkman6463
6 ай бұрын
@@caduhidalgo4996 I 100% bet that if nintendo ported their games to pc (or possibly othe consoles) they would become more popular and sell more, but nintendo is pretty dumb. theyre the most exclusive of gaming companies so no wonder people are pirating their games
@APsGTG
6 ай бұрын
@@caduhidalgo4996and totk was a rehash cashgrab dlc of BotW that took 6 years
@deepajain8347
6 ай бұрын
@@caduhidalgo4996 I really like Pokemon games but they. Are releasing garbage nowadays.
@RedHatGuyYT
6 ай бұрын
@@deepajain8347that's game freak, not nintendo
@Siknik64
6 ай бұрын
Watch, Sony will try to go after the emulation scene next. They're gonna see Nintendo's easy paycheck and think "We want some of that too."
@flimermithrandir
6 ай бұрын
A Shame because its true. MS did similar before already banning their easy Dev Emulation Layer. Or something like that, 2 Years ago. Its still available i think but not easy to get running as far as i remember.
@tired_moonwave
6 ай бұрын
Sony already did this with Bleem emulator decades ago. Bleem wasn't losing but Sony kept stretching it out to the point Bleem couldn't afford to keep fighting and sony basically bought them out and destroyed them I believe iirc.
@yakistolfo
6 ай бұрын
They cant do anything if they dont support the targeted platform or piece anymore like ps1 ps2 and ps3 soon. Ps4 emulator is still not that good yet so until then sony wont do shit cuz ps4 will be unsupported when ps4 emulator is out lol
@vitalepitts
6 ай бұрын
@@yakistolfo you say that but nintendo went after 3ds piracy also. psp emulation is super nice, maybe they'll attack that.
@liquidsnake6879
6 ай бұрын
@@vitalepitts Nintendo didn't go after Citra, Citra was willingly taken down by the developers for the reason they're exposing in their brief there, they were shown that their work was only really being used for piracy and for hurting Nintendo platforms on behalf of copycat hardware like the Steam Deck which is all-digital and directly counters the point of videogame preservation. So again, to stand for emulation in this particular case is to stand with Piracy and deliberately harm Nintendo, the developers of Citra and Yuzu themselves are saying it. I love the Switch, i love that Nintendo gets to make great games on it and that they've changed the paradigm of gaming with it, i despise the all-digital more expensive copycats like the Deck or the ROG whatever-it's-called gaining popularity due to being able to illegally run Switch exclusives on top of their PC libraries. And i have no respect for people who say they're for games preservation whilst defending the supremacy of all-digital online hardware platforms from companies that don't even develop their own games and instead make money by just pawning off other people's software
@DawnOfTheOzz
6 ай бұрын
Yuzu may be gone but as long as the spirit of emulation lives, there will be others who will keep on hacking Nintendo consoles and keeping the preservation scene alive.
@Zer0--Zer0
6 ай бұрын
Ryujinx is a very good alternative.
@ninetailedfox579121
6 ай бұрын
There literally already is another Switch emulator already, for about as long as Yuzu I think.
@Stevo.100
6 ай бұрын
@@Zer0--Zer0 Ryu is superior to Yuzu, which makes me happy that Yuzu was the popular one, because it's the one that got axed.
@souplegends8369
6 ай бұрын
Indeed!!! Even if they keep getting sued for our own sake, I guess its a win for us who are safe 😂
@Firen-vh3xc
6 ай бұрын
why wouldnt ryujinx be next for nintendo@@Stevo.100
@vitalepitts
6 ай бұрын
I think them killing Citra is way crazier. They (nintendo) don't even sell 3ds games or systems anymore.
@jacobwortham8068
6 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly, Nintendo didn't kill citra, it's just that most of the team is the same as the yuzu team so they (the folks at Yuzu) pulled it down too
@obinator9065
6 ай бұрын
It's collateral damage.
@keithflippers4429
5 ай бұрын
Not really Nintendo's fault they only cared about the stuff going on with Yuzu
@ichaukan
6 ай бұрын
I was paying for Switch Online for the last few years and this motivated me to stop. It's not quite to the levels of psychotic corporate greed we see ruining the world for us commoners, but it's a small part of the problem that I could take a small step away from enabling.
@roflBeck
6 ай бұрын
Same. Mine is supposed to renew next month, and I have a game voucher to claim. I think I'll just claim that and stop the sub.
@Matanumi
6 ай бұрын
All miniscule moves If you really wanted to hit their. Picket books you'd pirate every single piece of software from here on out out of principal And encourage everyone else to do the same
@user-jr6cc7tv3j
6 ай бұрын
losing citra emulator hurts bad, specially since nintendo shut down the 3ds store so those games are just... lost, the only thing keeping them alive is a copy on the internet that let's me enjoy that game with emulation
@megaman37456
6 ай бұрын
Citra was also open source, give it a year or two and we'll see a new 3DS emulator pop up. this isn't a mortal wound to 3DS or Switch emulation, it's just gonna take a bit to grow back those heads.
@e-tean-son4146
6 ай бұрын
Well, you can tecnically get a 3ds and an R4 loaded with ROMS
@ninetailedfox579121
6 ай бұрын
@@e-tean-son4146 You don't even need that. 3DSs are _really_ easy to crack. You can just put your own roms onto a regular microsd and play them that way once you install custom firmware.
@AmbassadorBreadloaf
6 ай бұрын
I forgot to re-download Citra after changing PC and now I have an Ultra Moon ROM without any means of playing it. This is frustrating, to say the least.
@megaman37456
6 ай бұрын
@@AmbassadorBreadloaf Ask around, I'm sure somebody has a copy of citra they can send you.
@Emxguy99
6 ай бұрын
Citra is the one that hurts me the most. It let me experience the SMT DS games, some I still haven't finished. I always found the updates annoying, but now I'll miss them.
@GoGicz
6 ай бұрын
you can still use it no worries, there are people that may work on it too.
@all-stargamer3333
6 ай бұрын
@@GoGicz This driving me crazy that everyone say "you can still use citra" and i wonder always how i can use Citra if the Website from Citra are down.
@ciclon5682
6 ай бұрын
there are lots of citra forks and side-projects, and you can always ask someone who still has it on their system to upload it or send it to you@@all-stargamer3333
@catgode
6 ай бұрын
@@all-stargamer3333 they can't remove the downloaded emulator from you drive, obviously. besides, there are other sources out there aside from the official website...
@GoGicz
6 ай бұрын
@@all-stargamer3333 so many people fork it, literally just search for it and you will get like 50 different sources.
@charlotte80389
6 ай бұрын
muta seemed so sad and tired at the end you can see the pain in his eyes
@Erox006
6 ай бұрын
how frustrated they are from not being able to sue Palworld devs
@zultriova89
6 ай бұрын
they may still in investigation, finding whatever the last hope for them to sue.. but im sure that not at Nintendo, its the Pokemon Company.
@Erox006
6 ай бұрын
@@zultriova89 Nintendo handles legal stuff and publishing (that's it) , gamefreak makes the underwhelming games with outdated coding , creature makes the merch and makes the MOST $$$ . it's always ninty
@Erox006
6 ай бұрын
@@zultriova89 i reply to your comment , but it keeps getting removed for some reason
@crazyfloof
6 ай бұрын
@@Erox006 Thats because KZitem is censoring people now and they are hiding replies
@no_0riginality937
6 ай бұрын
That’s because they don’t have a case to sue them. You people think that Palworld and Pokémon are one to one (you could argue the design but the game as a whole? No) but that’s blatantly false. If they sued Palworld they would’ve done so already
@WhitePointerGaming
6 ай бұрын
The Yuzu guys made a number of big blunders and they are paying for it, unfortunately: - They were making almost $30k a month from patreon - They had the Switch SDK and made it publicly available on a Google drive - They provided links to and instructions for a tool (Lockpick) used to extract proprietary cryptographic keys in order to bypass copy protection - They got caught talking about a "stash" of roms they had Nintendo haven't gone after other emulators like Ryujinx for example - at least not yet, so I think they had a problem with Yuzu specifically. Citra is the unfortunate collateral damage since much of the same team behind it was also behind Yuzu.
@video-luver769
6 ай бұрын
Everybody acting like Yuzu is innocent here when they made their own f*ck up. They f*cked around, and then found out.
@ThePopo543
6 ай бұрын
And that's why code language and fake accounts are important.
@waleed03231
6 ай бұрын
Yeah, Yuzu literally shot themselves in the foot on this one.
@M64bros
6 ай бұрын
Exactly! I'm glad I'm not the only one that knows that situation as well!
@GoGicz
6 ай бұрын
luckily the work won't go to waste, there are so many forks already, even i have backup of both early access and mainline, with source code of course.
@TorkSlanter
6 ай бұрын
This is why I downloaded everything that was required and available several days ago. Thanks, Muda, for letting us know when you learned what was going on so that those of us who are passionate about preserving out own games could prepare beforehand.
@SuperFlyGhost
6 ай бұрын
What was the last build number?
@DDRPriest
6 ай бұрын
I did the same thing.
@lssjvegeta7103
6 ай бұрын
For citra 2403. Dk about yuzu as i went with ryujinx
@GoGicz
6 ай бұрын
@@SuperFlyGhost the newest is early access 4176.
@SuperFlyGhost
6 ай бұрын
@@GoGicz TY sir
@NoxYaSoxOff
6 ай бұрын
I’m so glad I seen the writing in the wall and downloaded it before it was too late. With that in mind .. if people pirates want to pirate they’ll just get the program while getting the game anywhere else. They could have worked with them to kind of deter pirates on yuzu. But once again their lawyers bring down the hammer and basically do nothing but bankrupt a good company
@ashurad_fox5991
6 ай бұрын
FR, good thing I already have it installed and now moved to my external drive with a backup on another. (I'm using my bought game's data from my switch) Since I do wanted to play the games even when I grow old. (And if my 3ds can say something, the consoles/cartridges will degrade eventually... And one day, I will lose my games if someone don't do something.) Instead of Nintendo hamming down on emus, they should really consider broadening their market and import older games on pc. (like all their other competitors have) Since like quoting Gabe, "Piracy is a service issue" and that applies here more than anything else.
@zeromage0243
6 ай бұрын
I’m genuinely confused why Nintendo won’t update their outdated hardware it would solve half of their piracy problems
@oost_javeln
6 ай бұрын
Like their decisions don't even make sense in terms of making as much money as possible
@soragranda
6 ай бұрын
The defect of the switch soc was cause of Nvidia stupid mistakes with the hardbug. Also, their dev tools and firmware were leak by someone during the first two years of the console. Someone did fuck them for some reason and now they will fuck them emulators :'(.
@The_Gamer_91
6 ай бұрын
It really wouldn't. People who want to pirate would still pirate.
@cyraxthehedgehog
6 ай бұрын
Because that means NINTURDO would have to spend even more money and effort to make a better console. They want to be lazy assholes and get away with selling you mediocre garbage like POKEMON SCARLET AND VIOLET, AND their woefully underpowered Nintendo Switch
@paulj6805
6 ай бұрын
@@oost_javelnAnd yet they are the richest company in the worlds third largest economy. So maybe you just... don't know what you're talking about about?
@burnttoast26
6 ай бұрын
This is like killing a car company because some people use their cars to smuggle. Incredibly shameful.
@catlordenzo
6 ай бұрын
It's more like killing a company that makes off brand car parts that can be used to steal cars, then the company sells you the information on how to do it 90% of the way.
@GoGicz
6 ай бұрын
@@catlordenzo and then those parts are saved by other people and they start to make those parts as well.
@jprec5174
6 ай бұрын
@@catlordenzoit's not like any of that. It's a company suing a book maker because the book maker made copies of a the instructions to make a printing press that can make books that another group (nintendo) owns the rights to. If an emulator is genuine emulation, you can't sue because of that alone. That's like suing the other book maker just because their product has the ability to make the same books as you. You can't sue the ability, only the act.
@zultriova89
6 ай бұрын
but Nintendo is that car company.. 😮😮😮
@mkedzier123
6 ай бұрын
This is like killing car company if 90% of their cars were used to smuggle. Lets be realistic here - how many Yuzu users only played games they owned.
@ShinjiIkari007
6 ай бұрын
"I'll never forgive the Japanese!"
@kazuhiramiller2121
6 ай бұрын
Time for some new bømbs
@Pentazemin7
6 ай бұрын
@@kazuhiramiller2121 Why are we still here?
@harryshuman9637
6 ай бұрын
Code Geass?
@houragents5490
6 ай бұрын
Well you drew first blood 🤷♂️ They gotta protect themselves somehow
@johnboy_245
6 ай бұрын
@@kazuhiramiller2121I expected this would happen and was not disappointed.
@lordmango6060
6 ай бұрын
The last point just made me think... Wouldn't it be easier for companies like Nintendo to just to sell their games also on PC at a premium? That way games are preserved and piracy is heavily reduced
@PowerGem3000
6 ай бұрын
Nintendo is the only major console developer that makes a profit on console sales alone. Add in the sales from exclusive software and the fact that the Switch is about to become the best selling console of all time, and you get a lucrative business model. Even during the “dark ages” of the Wii U/3DS, Nintendo was still turning a profit. Putting games on PC would upset console sales, and services/products included with consoles such as controllers or online subscriptions. That’s a big reason why Microsoft is struggling with the Series X. No one wants to get your console if all your games go on PC at the same time anyway. In terms of game preservation, it is unfortunate that Nintendo is so late to the party when it comes to emulating old games. They’ve gotten better, though, so I’m hopeful that things will get better with the next console-which better be backwards-compatible!
@lordmango6060
6 ай бұрын
@@PowerGem3000 well, that's where putting games on PC at a premium would come into play I think. Combined with how inexpensive Nintendo consoles tend to be, I don't think it would affect console sales that much. Especially if they are released later. Like, if they are sold at $70 or $80 on PC, and digital only, via their own storefronts, Nintendo can make quite the pretty penny, and only those that REALLY want it on PC would get it
@PowerGem3000
6 ай бұрын
@@lordmango6060 if that happened, some people who would have bought the current console would decide to just wait for the games to come out on PC and play them then, depriving Nintendo of a console sale. That’s what is happening with Sony, who just announced more mass layoffs. Not as many people want to shell out for a PS5 when all the exclusives will just come out on PC in 1-2 years. And Sony already loses money on their consoles anyway, so imagine the loss if they don’t even sell the console after it’s made. Thankfully we haven’t reached a tipping point yet, given that PS5s are still somewhat scarce, but we’re heading in that direction.
@lordmango6060
6 ай бұрын
@@PowerGem3000 but the problem with the PS5 specifically is that for years, many were held up with scalpers, so software sales suffered a lot as a result. But you know, two other things that the PS5 has against it are 1) the PS5 is a very expensive console for most people, and 2) it is a stationary console. The Switch in contrast is affordable and a hybrid console with portability. A surprising amount of people play the switch exclusively on the go, and I'm not even talking about the Switch Lite. So I think it will be a very small amount of people who would rather wait to purchase a more expensive PC version down the line
@Maximilian1990
6 ай бұрын
That would require Nintendo abandoning their exclusivity business model and investing into opening a whole other new division of their company, and raising it from the ground up. That's way less easy than throwing lawsuits around
@Thundereus
6 ай бұрын
Me before Yuzu was taken down: *buy all games you emulate to be fair* Me after Yuzu was taken down: *Nintendo games are free and should be shared to everyone you know*
@tede1838
6 ай бұрын
i hit that point about a year ago. not another cent from me.
@Thundereus
6 ай бұрын
@@tede1838 I tried to play fair, but I can't anymore. They don't deserve any sympathy. I also just created a copy repository on Github. We need to create a lot of them
@NeonSonOfXenon
6 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard, matey
@Maximilian1990
6 ай бұрын
Good job on confirming Nintendo's point 👍
@pongopeter8267
6 ай бұрын
I hope you realize you are part of the problem. Statements like these only further associate emulators with piracy instead of preservation bringing more negative attention and potential lawsuits.
@Jupa
6 ай бұрын
They really shouldn’t have made that Patreon Really played with fire after TOTK
@benamisai-kham5892
6 ай бұрын
Honestly I feel like they've been playing with fire since they began emulating the switch while it's still alive. Nintendo hasn't touched other emus but that's probably because 1. They're dead consoles 2. Most people don't make it a business 3. Most people still go out of their way for og hardware for those gsmes The leak was a big hit, the money factor is really a nail in the coffin. They can say that they don't support piracy but it's inevitable
@Bert439
6 ай бұрын
Bingo! They broke the cardinal rule of emulation don't profit off of it
@fredster594
6 ай бұрын
Yo Jupa!
@NinjaRed5000
6 ай бұрын
Yup. This is why I don't care that they took down Yuzu. The moment I found out about their patreon and their patch for TotK BEFORE the game even got released, I knew they were fucked. They flew too close to the sun. It's a shame they took down Citra along with it though.
6 ай бұрын
@@NinjaRed5000 They took more than just Yuzu down.
@TheDesertLad72
6 ай бұрын
Given just HOW popular Nintendo games are I'm surprised they don't make even a TINY effort to port games that they don't even support through emulation on their Switch to an "all-in-one" store you can buy and play through on (at least) PC
@game-sheriff
6 ай бұрын
nintendo's never going to put games on PC ever unless they decide to release their own Famicom 2😂😂😂😂
@FakeHeroFang
6 ай бұрын
To be fair to them, carrying 3DS or some Wii games forward has got to be a pain in the ass. Everything else... No excuse.
@dalriada7554
6 ай бұрын
Honestly, I think the main attraction of emulators isn't that you can play old games (except for a minority of nostalgic people), it's that you can play them for free.
@bonkman6463
6 ай бұрын
@@dalriada7554 nah not really. the switch is pretty sucky so I wanted to play on pc. I would pay some extra to buy it on pc but the only way is through emulation. you can also just play them anytime. you can have multiple consoles and play them anywhere with a laptop
@thorscape3879
6 ай бұрын
That requires opening the garden. Nintendo is the Apple of video games.
@Evravon
6 ай бұрын
Imagine if lock makers went around suing people like Lockpick Lawyer for posting "tutorials on how to circumvent or bypass the security they built into their product".
@rodrigovalle6061
6 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear this muta
@09RHYS
6 ай бұрын
The Yuzu team died on the sword by sacrificing themselves to protect emulation as a whole. They knew full well if they hadn't settled it could spiral into something we could never change back. RIP 🙏🏻
@NoName......
6 ай бұрын
Nintendo will find someone else to sue.
@Maximilian1990
6 ай бұрын
Yeah that's why they settled, not because Nintedawg was about to go in raw into their bank accounts 😂
@clocked0
6 ай бұрын
@@NoName......Yep. Yuzu aren't the heroes for settling. Nintendo will just go after Ryujinx next having been emboldened. The grey area is within their favour, not the emulators.
@helmutstransky3761
6 ай бұрын
Hahaha, yeah sure.
@noots4275
6 ай бұрын
@@clocked0Ryujinx is in Brazil. Nintendo can't do shit about them or touch Ryujinx. They're also not promoting ToTK piracy with mods behind their Patreon like Yuzu did.
@WeaponXYZ
6 ай бұрын
Unpopular opinion Yuzu devs killed themselves by giving Nintendo so much ammo. a guide on how to get switch keys with download links to said tools, all the discord stuff, and the patreon. As an irrelevant youtuber with no legal authority once said.. "Shut the fuck up!'.
@vinnietorres1145
6 ай бұрын
yeah but even with ryujinx all the guides are how to get the keys from YOUR OWN DEVICE. The argument could still be made that they intended the software for owners to do what they want with their property, any bad actors are just that and aren't connected to the development of the emu, making them legally separated. I personally really cant stand the switch as a handheld device I'd much rather play something on my monitor without cranking my head or slouching in a chair.
@WeaponXYZ
6 ай бұрын
@@vinnietorres1145 Your argument would be quickly countered by saying that the guide being hosted by Yuzu who didn't make the switch is a breach of DMCA. I'm all for emulation but people need to learn that at ANY point the axe can come down on your neck from Nintendo or whoever. Even if you play 100% by the book.
@TrashCritter
6 ай бұрын
the tooling to get private keys of your own personal hardware is not illegal. the Patreon is somewhat suspect and may have been illegal
@WeaponXYZ
6 ай бұрын
@@TrashCritter That doesn't give Yuzu the right to host/post the guide on their site as it breaches DMCA for bypassing DRM which can be viewed as piracy. It would be a different story if Nintendo had a guide like that .
@0008loser
6 ай бұрын
@@WeaponXYZ nobody asked
@themanwithnoname4385
6 ай бұрын
Shitendo is so threatened by the Steam Deck
@soragranda
6 ай бұрын
Dude... Switch sold in months more than steam in its whole lifetime :/.
@themanwithnoname4385
6 ай бұрын
@@soragranda it's not about sales. Yes there have been more Nintendo Toys sold, but the Deck outclasses it in every single way and runs it's games better. There is enough steam decks sold that it's legitimately seen as a threat by Nintendo. For example say there are 6 million decks that are pirating Nintendo switch games , that is 6 million customers lost not only in software, but hardware too, calculate the average price of a Nintendo Toy game and multiply it by 6 million, that's how much potential cash they've lost. Nintendo can't even handle people pirating games that they haven't sold in well over 30 years, I can't imagine their blood pressure levels from the sheer amount of anger they see when it comes to switch emulation piracy on the deck
@houragents5490
6 ай бұрын
No no no. Deck riders are terrified of the ninjas 🥷 Just look a Mutanthar Seeeeeeeeeethe!
@zyedelric
6 ай бұрын
@@soragranda sd is double the price and more
@themanwithnoname4385
6 ай бұрын
@@houragents5490 I live in fear every passing day over Nintendos Jihad against the Video Game Community, Emulation and games preservation. It baffles me that you make a company and sell products you hate, to consumers and communities you despise with every bone in your body. That's like if you hate cars and the car community and car buyers, and the. make a car company and send lawsuits to other car companies and buyers and fans. It's like why did you get in the business anyway? But what can you expect, this is the same company that started out as a glorified Brothel
@RandomIdiotGS
6 ай бұрын
This sets a wrong legal precedent, that big companies can aggressively keep pushing RIDICULOUS lawsuits and threaten to keep driving up lawsuit costs that the other side can't pay to scare them into admitting defeat (by settlement). It's clear we need more complete laws about what can be applied for a lawsuit. For example, one tactic of such companies is to put so much ridiculous points in their lawsuit (alongside maybe one semi-valid one) that just dealing with all points is many times more timeconsuming and automatically drives up costs of the lawsuit for all parties involved. So for one, there need to be active punishments DURING a lawsuit on the condition of a SPECIFIC FINANCIAL GAP between two parties, that for every claim found false, the accusing party has to pay the accused party. Not any sum at the end. Not with any payment deadlines in the future. No, false claim means you IMMEDIATELY pay. And that could help the accused keep the lawsuit going and this deters ridiculous claims from barraging the accused, taking up the legal courts' time for no reason as well. Like, seriously, given how busy the legal system is, it makes sense to dish out severe punishments for just stockpiling false claims in your legal suit to drag it out, because it impacts the justice team's time as well and the accused "paying damages afterwards with a payment deadline" is not enough to guarantee the financial status of the accused. Ergo, accused parties suffering from a financial gap with their accuser need to be better protected. How wealthy you are should have no bearing on court proceedings. As for the Yuzu case, I am apalled Yuzu had to settle because there are no laws in place to determine that Yuzu did something wrong. They are (...were) not supporting any form of piracy. And that's exactly why Nintendo piled on the lawsuit to just scare them into submission. Very sad. Utter lack of justice. And once again a case of Nintendo shooting themseles in their foot, because this is only going to cost them customers.
@richardmcgowan1651
6 ай бұрын
Developing and sharing emulation isnt illegal. Ive no idea the amount of money Nintendo would have to spend to pass laws to make it illegal. Into the billions to do it world wide. Maybe a few trillion. Unitl that happens you, me, anyone can develop emulation and share it online with anyone else.
@0Asterite0
6 ай бұрын
Did you not watch the vid? They provided detailed instructions on how to get the private keys, a big nono
@clocked0
6 ай бұрын
@@0Asterite0There's an exemption in the DMCA that allows for circumventing technological measures for the purposes of interoperability as long as they are not distributing copyrighted work. In other words, Yuzu was in the clear telling people how to dump keys legally from their own switches. The sole purpose of emulators is to facilitate interoperability.
@ProjectionProjects2.7182
6 ай бұрын
Yes absolutely. Its crazy the number of stupid points Nintendo was making in there lawsuit. They were acting like the damages caused by Tears of the Kingdom leaking was Yuzus fault some how even though they should be blaming the person who leaked it in the first place.
@ninetailedfox579121
6 ай бұрын
This doesn't set that precedent at all. The fact that big companies can open weak lawsuits and win simply because the other side can't afford it has been done for years. This is not Nintendo's first rodeo.
@juicetimer
6 ай бұрын
OGs remember when the title said "Scumbag Nintendo"
@CarterHax
6 ай бұрын
still in my notifications
@Tieigo0
6 ай бұрын
@@CarterHax🎉🎉🎉
@ImDannn
6 ай бұрын
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Yuzu stole code from Ryujinx
@theophiled
6 ай бұрын
kinda ironic to condamn them for "stealing" code when everyone is cheering on piracy of video game lol
@PlayerOne.StartGame
6 ай бұрын
Cannot blame Yuzu ,everyone want play Zelda in 60 fps and 4k resolution ,don’t want play with a potato machine.
@soragranda
6 ай бұрын
Not really, the game sold a lot which means people did like it on the switch. Feels like a bad excuse :/.
@JustinObi54
6 ай бұрын
Yeah, like 20 million copies, sheesh Nintendo@@soragranda
@Rain1
6 ай бұрын
@@soragranda For the exact reason that the original commenter made is why I decided to set up Yuzu, finally. I didn't want to play on a potato handheld I wanted to play on my nice PC. Went out bought the game, grabbed my old switch, and just went from there
@yume7z185
6 ай бұрын
@@soragranda bro you think everyone with an emulator is a pirate? Youd be surprised many of us make legal dumps of our games and just want to enhance the experience
@Ash_Lex
6 ай бұрын
@@yume7z185doesn’t matter, you’re still a problem in the community. You can make whatever excuses you want, either play on switch or don’t support Nintendo, there is no in between.
@Xibyth
6 ай бұрын
The way US law is written, the keys can be dumped and duplicated for personal use. So long as they are not specifically removing or reverse engineering the keys themselves, they are not violating copyright law. The would be like Huffy saying you can use their pedals from the bike you own on a mongoose.
@Wesmoen
6 ай бұрын
Which making this suit even shadier. Yuzu needs external files and doesn't provide options to jailbreak switches. Other software do, Yuzu's website only refers to such software. The whole circumvention claim is anedoctal at best. Sadly, their discord was a legit reason to take action. Hitting the company worked.
@therealchris5894
6 ай бұрын
Currently listening to this while emulating Tears of the Kingdom on Yuzu
@tekeagle2136
6 ай бұрын
Me emulating Super Smash Bros. on my laptop and S23 Ultra. In fact, the lawsuit started the day after I successfully did it. Weird? I have a switch now, so no piracy was involved.
@Maximilian1990
6 ай бұрын
Good luck emulating on Yuzu whatever Nintendo publishes next 😂
@kquack
6 ай бұрын
@@Maximilian1990eh, im happy with what i currently have
@Lucromis
6 ай бұрын
Yeah you can get it still all over on the internet lol. This isn't very effective.
@rayxr
6 ай бұрын
@@Maximilian1990You can still emulate any new games, dude. It's just harder now to find the emulator to run it.
@John-fr4hu
6 ай бұрын
I mean...Yuzu basically slathered themselves in raw meat, and threw themselves over the fence into the lion exhibit. Honestly if its possible make 10 million, pay 2-3 million in fines, I would do it.
@0XReactor
6 ай бұрын
Sony tried to bring piracy up in court against Connectix, but it didn't do Sony any favors. Connectix Legal showed that pirated copies of PSX games could be played on modded systems, so they argued that the community had crated a "mod" or patcher for CVGS to allow the playing of backups. Yuzu Legal could have argued that parts of the firmware that weren't protected had to be studied and connected to "protected" parts of the firmware that had to be studied. From the Sony v. Connectix case: "Sony understandably seeks control over the market for devices that play games Sony produces or licenses. The copyright law, however, does not confer such a monopoly." This same argument could have been used against Nintendo, if Tropic Haze LLC. had the cash to fund the case.
@Rexhunterj
6 ай бұрын
Only for Nintendo of America, maybe Nintendo Worldwide, but definitely not the core of the problem: Nintendo HQ/Japan, the issue is the corporate culture and laws in Japan, there are no fair use laws in Japan, in Japan if you do not protect your IP/copyright, you will lose it (and it makes the corporate suits in charge look like chumps to their peers) Almost all legal matters originate from Nintendo JP before they ever reach the other branches. I've been C&Ded by Nintendo before, I know how it works and I know how they treat you, all correspondence treats you like criminal scum for daring to infringe their IP for any reason, even if you aren't making a dime on it.
@polocatfan
6 ай бұрын
Yuzu doesn't care about what's right.
@AnoopSingh-in3oc
6 ай бұрын
Yuzu should've started a gofundme. I would've happily donated.
@NewsofPE
6 ай бұрын
@@polocatfanNintendo*
@0XReactor
6 ай бұрын
@@Rexhunterj I still believe if Tropic Haze LLC. had enough cash flow, they could have fought this. Connectix was being sued by SCEI and SECA, with SCEI being the Japanese branch of Sony. In my opinion, the only reason Sony hasn't gone after emulation head-on again is because they don't want more emulation precedents set. Tropic Haze LLC. was making a new platform to play Switch and 3DS games on. Nintendo wants to monopolize the market, but copyright law, however, does not confer such a monopoly. I figured we would have had another emulation win: Nintendo buys Tropic Haze LLC. and discontinues the emulator.
@Aredein
6 ай бұрын
also recently there was a Copyright Troll who DMCA takedowned Mario and Sonic mods for GMOD. Something tells me that Nintendo decided to use a decoy. People say it's copyright troll, but something tells me he did that not just for personal fun.
@Random-user22
6 ай бұрын
why do that?
@noone12748
6 ай бұрын
Yeah man, Shigeru Miyamoto himself trolled people on Gmod by falsely DMCA'ing a harmless mod, not like real trolls haven't done that before lol
@Aredein
6 ай бұрын
@@noone12748 timing is way too coincidental, that's all I'm saying.
@ninetailedfox579121
6 ай бұрын
@@Aredein Yes, it is way coincidental. It's so coincidental that it's a condolence.
@roguerangerroger
6 ай бұрын
It's too early to see goody two shoes replying "tHiS iS pIrACy"
@lordqwertythepyromancer3458
6 ай бұрын
I don't follow your comment. Piracy is a crime, it's scummy at times when enforced too harshly or on emulators that are for OLD consoles that aren't sold anymore, but this is a emulator for nintendo's current console with patreon paywals and a history of leaking games early. If yuzu were a bunch of people emulating snes and nes games I would be defending them........but.......
@trav-sc2ju
6 ай бұрын
@@lordqwertythepyromancer3458Nintendo makes no distinction.
@MagikarpPower
6 ай бұрын
this is nintendo we're talking about, they've already nuked the 3ds store with no way to play their games. they hate their fans and this is the one way to play some of them. they hate nintendo games more than pirates do.
@vagamer522
6 ай бұрын
@@lordqwertythepyromancer3458At this point there is no moral loss for pirating Nintendo games at this point. They don't care about you as a consumer and this lawsuit shows.
@Dittoritos
6 ай бұрын
@@lordqwertythepyromancer3458Except they're also taking down Citra, an emulator for an old console
@Short-Spooks
6 ай бұрын
Every time something like this happens, or the conversation of games preservation comes up I always think back to one of my favourite games as a kid. Despite it only being removed in 2011, it's nearly entirely lost outside of one two minute youtube clip and three screenshots. It certainly wasn't the best game out there, but it's shocking to me that a piece of media is just gone like that due to entirely preventable circumstances. Edit: The two games are "Wild Thornberrys: Rugrats Go Wild Wildlife Rescue" and "Rugrats Go Wild Wildlife Rescue" I replied with some more info in the comments.
@washuai
6 ай бұрын
Name the game?
@cookiedoodle5582
6 ай бұрын
Please name the game for preservation purposes 🙏
@oaksaint4458
6 ай бұрын
Imagine mentioning that game preservation is an issue and then not saying the the name of the game you wanted to be preserved lmao
@helmutstransky3761
6 ай бұрын
Name it!
@makeitthrough_
6 ай бұрын
It legitimately boils my blood when I read about something interesting somewhere and then can't experience it for myself because greedy pigs couldn't see how to keep making money from it
@sailaway30
6 ай бұрын
When yuzu started charging for updates for tears of the kingdom. That’s when they screwed up. Nintendo had every right to go after Yuzu for charging services for something they did not own If people are making excuses for that, you’re just stupid
@haihaiwhutwhut
6 ай бұрын
This situation is like a DVD player getting banned because it can play pirated DVDs, BUT to get it to work, you need to get Bernard that owns a small tech shop to modify your DVD player and then get your hands on the pirated DVD. Why wouldn't you go after Bernard (in this case, the people who made the mods to make Tears of the Kingdom available) or after the pirated DVDs (the person who grabbed the unreleased version of Tears of the Kingdom)? Makes no sense to go after Yuzu. This will be like a hydra. Nintendo might have cut a head, but tons more heads will spawn from this BS.
@Joshyboy225
6 ай бұрын
It’s a shame, but honestly? The switch and its games are still readily available. Had this happened 20 years in the future then it would be an actual problem. We literally lose nothing by losing yuzu right now. Edit: Losing citra aftually does suck though
@hylianhero1921
6 ай бұрын
If they wouldnt have tried to emulate a supported system Citra wouldnt have gotten caught in the crossfire.
@Mizu2023
6 ай бұрын
They also put stuff behind a Patreon paywall.
@camharkness
6 ай бұрын
@@Mizu2023sadly to muta and his fans, that part doesn't matter.
@Maximilian1990
6 ай бұрын
They could have kept going with Citra but the cash cow that was switch emulation got shut down so they bailed on everything 😂
@chrisfratz
6 ай бұрын
Tears of the Kingdom did work on Ryujinx out of the box, mainly because that emulator focuses on accuracy. It could boot tears of the kingdom without patches when it leaked.
@Foogi9000
6 ай бұрын
Question, if i switch to Ryujinx can it run Xenoblade Chronicles 2 as well as Yuzu?
@chrisfratz
6 ай бұрын
@@Foogi9000 I don't know how well the game runs on Yuzu either, and even then it all depends on your system and what hardware you're running.
@smsry
6 ай бұрын
@@Foogi9000it kinda boils down to ur rig. If its beefy, then try it. Ryu focuses on accuracy and thats only possible to run without hiccups on decent rigs. Yuzu focused on speed so even mid range systems could run some switch games at full speed at the cost of glitches which depending on the gane got fixed later on.
@NateSammich
6 ай бұрын
All they had to do was not sell a paywalled update for pirated copies of TotK for yuzu and nothing would have happened
@Ampharosite
6 ай бұрын
Amen to that.
@Nightcaat
6 ай бұрын
Yuzu updates were never paywalled. You could compile the latest build for free if you knew how to. Aseprite does the same thing
@thegamerfe8751
6 ай бұрын
May you provide a source because that never happened? All of the updates/patches that made ToTK work for Yuzu were made by random people and released by them, early access builds of Yuzu still couldn't run ToTK.
@smsry
6 ай бұрын
God the misinformation about what actually happeneed is insane to see when you were actually there when it happened. Literally every word u said here is wrong.
@makeitthrough_
6 ай бұрын
@@thegamerfe8751It's wild that this keeps needing to be said in so many threads. People latched onto the misinformation so hard and are signal boosting it to the top. This really is the misinformation age
@nrshocks6931
6 ай бұрын
I absolutely loved citra and this very sad to me because several monster hunter games exclusively released on 3ds
@zultriova89
6 ай бұрын
MH4U and Gen already running on Citra.
@randomname5646
6 ай бұрын
3ds are still going for $300 what ima do now💀
@noone12748
6 ай бұрын
@@randomname5646 Download the latest build and play the games lol
@BinkBinkgmd
6 ай бұрын
@@randomname5646builds of citra were reuploaded no need to panic
@robmalcolm8042
6 ай бұрын
@randomname5646 I bet the emulation runs better than the actual hardware I've seen pokemon lag on even the last released 3ds
@xastielmuffinz3047
6 ай бұрын
You can only use the "preservation angle" if its older devices or games they no longer sells Switch is a current running machine, they still sell the devices and games for it. It's still falling under the illegal piracy department Not to mention how Yuzu leaks zelda and metroid and other games before the actual release, and they make money off patreon and such, they definitely draws Nintendo's ire And the most important part. Yes it's "preservation", yes it's "fun" or "creative" but at the end of the day, 99% of the users are simply using this for piracy. not "preservation". When Switch is as old as GBA or something, then no one will argue about the "preservation" angle.
@bobbobber4810
6 ай бұрын
That would be funny if their next pokemon was a flop because of that. This is not going to happened, for sure, but I still like to imagine it... the total panic of the company...
@Lucromis
6 ай бұрын
Yuzu made a better way to play Zelda, and Palworld made a better "Pokemon" like game. Nintendo should just make better products.
@cm3368
6 ай бұрын
Nintendo don't make Pokémon, and you need to learn to live with the idea that emulation, much like VR, is for the most part purely a niche
@Hydra_X9K_Music
6 ай бұрын
@Lucromis Except Palworld isn't anything like pokemon aside from the monster catching, which isn't even unique to Pokemon.
@rigo7292
6 ай бұрын
What angers me even more about this situation is how horribly behind on the times Nintendo is with the technology in there system. The fact that company as powerful as Nintendo can't offer something with better graphics or the very least the ability to play games at 60 FPS in todays day and age is mind boggling to me.
@DarioDAversa
6 ай бұрын
I get Nintendo's "this hurts our sales" point of view, but wasn't it last week that we had the news that Nintendo was the richest company in Japan or something? I mean, on paper it sounds like TOTK being leaked 2 weeks prior was bad, but the truth is, anyone who is a fan of the game/franchise BOUGHT it any way. I personally could have downloaded & played the game prior, but I held back against it because I'm a fan. Today however, I use Yuzu, because like you, I sync me saved games to my NAS & play my library between my ROG Ally and PC (at 4K and sometimes with cool mods). Not only do I buy my Nintendo games, we have THREE Switches at home -- my zero-day purchase, and two lite versions for each of my kids. We bought games like Minecraft 3 freaking times so they could all play together (because Nintendo won't allow proper sharing). I had to re-purchase all my digital downloads to physical carts so my kids could play. It's unbelievable that after giving Nintendo all this money, they would still label me as a 'criminal' just because I chose to play the game I bought on a different hardware. It IS dumb, and they should not have won this, but unfortunately, they did.
@milesharris249
6 ай бұрын
Fr Nintendo just had TWO game of the year Nominee's, they're not scraping for money
@Maximilian1990
6 ай бұрын
"You're rich so I can steal from you" or "you're rich so why do you need more money" are very idiotic arguments. You can't share a single game license lmao, if you want several people to use a software, each on their own device, you need to purchase a license for each person/each device. And yes they in fact can call you a criminal if you use their software outside of their TOS
@circuit10
6 ай бұрын
@@Maximilian1990I think it should be a right of the buyer that if you buy a game they shouldn’t be able to use TOS to lock you in to a specific platform
@Maximilian1990
6 ай бұрын
@@circuit10 but it's not and it's their right to lock you to their platform if they want to do so.
@circuit10
6 ай бұрын
@@Maximilian1990 I think it’s a bit of a grey area and probably depends on the country. There are exceptions to certain laws for interoperability purposes. Regardless of what the law says though, I personally think it should be the user’s right to decide what platform to run their game on
@theodoros_1234
6 ай бұрын
12:56 I can't hear the words 'pirate software' anymore without thinking of our goblin lord, Thor
@SimeonRadivoev
6 ай бұрын
This might have some things in common with right to repair. As most hardware nowadays has software locks. Things like your phones, tractors, cars, vibrators, etc. If you hack those to repair them or preserve them or god forbid have someone else qualified do it.
@zackfair872
6 ай бұрын
i'm not protect nintendo but in this case , the biggest mistake yuzu, citra team had ever done is make this software paid on ggplay instead let it free totally , they can keep patreon as " donate" not "paying " but promote this software as a software product on ggplay such a bad move especially this is nintendo!
@melley420
6 ай бұрын
Emulation needs to stay, All game consoles will become rare or go extinct eventually. I can imagine the Nintendo 3DS becoming pretty scarce in like 30 or 40 years, they're a nightmare to repair especially when something in the top half breaks. If they keep suing emulators then it may become really hard to enjoy older games if there is no official way to play them anymore.
@running5850
6 ай бұрын
Sorry Mutahar but I agree with Nintendo here. For systems and games that these companies have abandoned, im fully on board with people emulating the shit out of it. But i cant get on board with the existence and open distribution of a Switch emulator when it's a console fully supported by Nintendo currently and readily available for purchase everywhere. I don't think wanting to play Switch games on better hardware is a reasonable justification for their existence and distribution. The games work fine on Switch. The company shouldnt have to allow avenues for theft just because you want to play their games at 60fps instead of 30fps or whatever. I think that argument is extremely unreasonable because thats not how most people use it. It's primarily used to pirate switch games and we all know it.
@lovrovro
6 ай бұрын
Nah, Nintendo can easily make a console that does not suck but they would rather sue every single emulator than do that.
@running5850
6 ай бұрын
@@lovrovrodefine "does not suck" because I guarantee you that when the Switch 2 comes and is only PS4 levels of power people will still make this same argument to justify the emulators for it.
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