The only reason that a person “doesn’t understand” the four-fold ministry or that the office of Prophet and Apostle no longer exists is that they desire authority that is not their own.
@PastorKj
6 ай бұрын
“Four fold.” Yes.
@MatthewmccrayAkadaro
Ай бұрын
I just don’t understand how the only thing we have now is pastors lol We have NO scriptural basis on the ceasing of Apostles and prophets.
@MatthewmccrayAkadaro
Ай бұрын
And I totally disagree. Most Apostles and Prophets I know, love Jesus and they aren’t trying to add to the Bible or take away, they don’t desire “authority” of their own lol yall see one bad example of apostles and prophets and say all they aren’t for today lol
@tonymedina6493
7 ай бұрын
“You can be saved and stupid, tweet that”….Lol
@alexandernorman5337
7 ай бұрын
Well, he's right. That is NOT something any of us should aspire to. But it is true.
@darleneanderson109
7 ай бұрын
Lord mercy. People love titles and will hold to their own understanding. So many men and women like to call themselves Apostle or Prophet and lack the qualifications and evidence. Good teaching Bro. Corey.
@alexandernorman5337
7 ай бұрын
They want to glorify themselves.
@mistervalentine5420
7 ай бұрын
It never ceases to amaze me, the most unlearned or less qualified individuals are the ones trying to teach and lead others, so frustrating..corey thanks for exposing this!
@Tony-LoveJesus
7 ай бұрын
Man I thought you was talking about Corey as I was reading this. Because he’s one of the most unqualified individuals teaching on KZitem, adding and taking away from Gods word. He’s going to have to give an account to God for changing the truth of God into a lie and also his followers for believing the creature rather than the Creator. And can’t provide one scripture that says Apostles and Prophets are ceased and ppl still believe him. Shame on you all smh
@samono7726
7 ай бұрын
@@Tony-LoveJesus Kind sir, please could you state exactly what video or what part of this video he has erroneously espoused? And please can you back your own points with Scriptures? If you are going to accused people of falsehood, don't make blanket statements, you have got to be detailed and profound in your points. Provide the chapter you disagree with him about.
@ManuelCongo78
7 ай бұрын
Thank you..ive seen u mentioned manyntimes before addressing the "5" fold ministry...didnt get it...
@ManuelCongo78
7 ай бұрын
I nw understand it to mean that teacher by itself is not an office...the office is pastor/teacher....
@ManuelCongo78
7 ай бұрын
A pasor MUST be a teacher. A teacher dont nesissarily has to be a pastor..but a teacher alone is NOT an office..@smart christan channel
@PastorDavidFranklin
7 ай бұрын
Hey here's an idea, just be a servant first just like Jesus. A good steward of the word spreading the good news of Gods message to all until He returns. Men seek titles and positions, and Jesus seeks hearts that desire to be transformed.
@sergelikekele
7 ай бұрын
Amen Amen and Amen brother 🙏🏽 Title don't mean nothing.
@barbarajeye4818
7 ай бұрын
That's right every where you look they're claiming GOD told them some prophecy , Looking for some great ministry in a large church.
@marilynclarke6092
7 ай бұрын
Thank you Pastor David Franklin, I second your motion. All I desire to do is serve as Jesus Christ served. None of the others, such as titles, are going to be anyone's ticket to heaven, not ever. It's what we all do for Christ as he has instructed us to do is going to matter. I'm so saddened by the state of the church anymore. What has happened to the body of Christ? I try as often as I can to not mention the word "church" any longer because it literally makes me sick. I'm positive that God is not pleased with what's taking place, though we cannot pray prophecy away. We were all warned of the entire messes that we are observing and experiencing. We must though, stay alert and stay in prayer. Thank you again Pastor Franklin, with love, 🙏🏾♥️🙏🏾
@PastorDavidFranklin
6 ай бұрын
@@marilynclarke6092 Amen, so absolutely true. Blessings!
@J_a_s_o_n
6 ай бұрын
@@PastorDavidFranklin Luke 9:50 NKJV - But Jesus said to him, “Do not forbid him, for he who is not against us is on our side.” This verse is deep because Jesus , just like today, the CHURCH is what is under ATTACK ! Not the Lady who was caught in adultery; they were trying to CORNER Jesus Christ! This is NOT about TB JOSHUA. It's an ATTACK on the CHURCH & it's just THE BEGINNING ! Pastor , watch your congregation fizzle out. The weak believers will be swept AWAY BY the master of deception satan! Peace!
@michaellawsonspeaks
7 ай бұрын
I got kicked out of a Facebook group for saying, “There are no more apostles or prophets”
@SteveJobIess
7 ай бұрын
All these so called prophets online are vague fortune tellers at best. "I have a word... 2024 is going to be a year of reckoning..." 🙄🤡 okay... Everyone running loose with titles, apostles, prophets, smh.
@tomtemple69
7 ай бұрын
"um apostle means sent one" "the gift of prophecy is still given, so there are still prophets" and i explain to them the 12 were special and Ephesians 2:20 shows they're foundational members and went away at the completion of the canon
@SteveJobIess
7 ай бұрын
@@tomtemple69 um, yes, but the context and application of how these titles are used matters 🤡
@tomtemple69
7 ай бұрын
@@SteveJobIess the apostles and prophets were the only ones giving new revelation directly from God are there people still getting that today? if so, why don't we add it to the Bible? the apostles wrote half the new testament
@SteveJobIess
7 ай бұрын
@@tomtemple69 bro, im in agreement with u
@terrilynch7845
7 ай бұрын
These people nowadays that give themselves titles appear to be egotistical, self centered, financially greedy people who love attention & twist & pervert Scripture. They don't seem to want to tell of the Salvation message of Jesus Christ or care about souls being saved through Jesus Christ. I don't hear them preaching repentance. Thank you brother Corey.
@user-px8rs7bf5j
4 ай бұрын
So I take it everyone is the same smh!
@TennesseeWhiskii
7 ай бұрын
Apostles and Prophets are no longer. These men simply want to elevate themselves to a status. Why can't you just be a follower of Christ?
@cane03
7 ай бұрын
Amen bro!!! I can’t express enough how thankful I am for you bro Corey. You challenge us to search the scriptures! And you give sound doctrine in which we can test it by the word. God bless bro!
@SungananiManjolo
7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the Bible - based teaching Brother Corey. For many I have seen and met, they do not explain from Scripture properly. Its frustrating
@user-md8dw2uk1p
4 ай бұрын
Terry K Anderson is a brilliant preacher
@ashermarcus5242
7 ай бұрын
Once again your opening statement cracks me up. Praying for you Corey
@manestage5403
7 ай бұрын
Timely, after I just watched an online service (at the request of my loved one), and heard the “apostle” talk for 1.5 hr about what God is going to do in 2024 (run of the mill “businesses, homes, influence, expansion, anointing”). I’m sorry…lie. I was thinking the whole time, he could’ve spoken about what God has stated clearly already in His word, but that would’ve been too much like right, as the old folk say.🤷🏾♀️
@WilliamSmith-if3nb
7 ай бұрын
Spot on brother thank you
@Mrs.CGraves
7 ай бұрын
Happy New Year!! Be safe everyone!
@Stufftowatch21
7 ай бұрын
There no more prophets no more apostles. Everything that is in the Bible is all we need . Read it read it again and again study the Bible pray to God gives you the understanding.
@WilliamSmith-if3nb
7 ай бұрын
Amen amen amen
@whatdoesTheBibleactuallysay
7 ай бұрын
No Scriptures? To support what you are saying? The Bible doesn't need any more Scriptures added and that is not what modern day prophets do. They confirm what is already written. Jesus doesn't repent of His callings or His prophets Roman's 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. Jesus said He did not come to do away with the prophets. Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. [18] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. The Gifts and the prophets will be done away with when Jesus comes back. 1 Corinthians 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. [9] For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. [10] But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. God puts His Words in His prophets mouths and they are there to edify the church. Isaiah 51:16 And I have put my words in thy mouth, and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and say unto Zion, Thou art my people. Jeremiah 1:9 Then the LORD put forth his hand, and touched my mouth. And the LORD said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth. [10] See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant. The prophets tell people to repent. Which is what they did and have always done. 1 Corinthians 14:3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.
@djidjine5082
7 ай бұрын
The Bible literally says “And in the last days it shall be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams.” Sooo yeah there will be prophets but there will also be false prophets
@whatdoesTheBibleactuallysay
7 ай бұрын
@@djidjine5082 you are 100% correct. I'm glad there are others on here that know the truth
@ashermarcus5242
7 ай бұрын
I don't believe there are any new Apostles..capital "A". Prophets are still in play according to the scripture but out of thousands who claim that title in today's world there MAYBE a true PROPHET.
@janetdavis6473
7 ай бұрын
Happy New Year, Corey! Thanks for your ministry!
@themichaelapayne
7 ай бұрын
Thank you brother Corey!
@jefferyfennix1114
7 ай бұрын
Ty, Corey. To many people who want to be elevated by man and not by God. Jesus said if He be lifted up. "Let us advance the Kingdom of God by making Jesus only famous." Words of Bishop Otis Cobbins!
@I-AM-BELIEVER
7 ай бұрын
Not one person alive saw the Resurrection of Jesus, not one. That qualification alone denies any one from holding the title of Apostle.
@conradbascombe
7 ай бұрын
I say humbly you are sadly mistaken. Jesus has since appeared to many people over the course of history. Yet it doesn't make them an apostle. What makes one an apostle is Christ calling then to function as one not like in the authority like the 12 or paul but maybe to start a new work in a world area. Just saying.
@sistersouldier7773
7 ай бұрын
So this means Paul wasn't the apostle of the Gentiles?
@nwabuezeprecious457
4 ай бұрын
@@conradbascombefacts
@duanejohnson5234
7 ай бұрын
Excellent‼️
@DaSmoov54
7 ай бұрын
Amen!! Hopefully this video will open the eyes of many who are deceived.
@conradbascombe
7 ай бұрын
Corey, you apply the word "gave" to confirm that there are no more apostles and prophets. Then I ask, what about the other ministries that follow? So along that train of thought, I guess I can say that there is no more need for pastors-teachers and evangelists? That word does indeed speak about past tense, but to say that this only applies to the apostles and prophets is absolutely absurd.
@adammitchell5037
7 ай бұрын
Amen! Now that is spot on.
@DEN-mom-17
Ай бұрын
TRUTH HAS ALREADY BEEN WRITTEN. just spread the word\Jesus.
@PandySearl
7 ай бұрын
Amen brother Corey!!!🤗 God bless you!!!🙌🙌🙌🙏🏻❤✝️🕊
@marvinpettigrew3891
7 ай бұрын
Amen teach my brother teach
@aprilechols184
7 ай бұрын
Amen and amen 🙏🏽 🙌🏽
@user-db9dd1bg1o
6 ай бұрын
Jesus and our Bible is all we need.❤
@jsin18010
7 ай бұрын
This cat lost me when I saw the pearls around his neck.
@canolll
7 ай бұрын
This topic should include Julie Green, a false prophet within the evangelical movement.. who sadly has a huge following..
@JenniLeeann
7 ай бұрын
She is indeed a false prophet. My friend follows her. Goes to what julie green says more than she does scripture. 😢
@KOKchurch
7 ай бұрын
Hey man I normally agree with a lot of stuff that you put out and I think that you are well balanced guy however on this particular topic I have an issue with some of the language in that you're using I think one of the things that we do is we use Greek and Hebrew but we don't look into the Greek and Hebrew definitions One of the thoughts you said is that he never said to give or giving which would imply that God is perpetually given in perpetuity is what you stated but actually according to the Greek definition it actually means to give which means continual so either God is continually giving the five four ministry gifts or as you said the four ministry gifts or I'm reading the wrong Greek in Hebrew which I don't think I am think a lot of times when people look at Greek and he would really looking at the actual word but we don't look at the definition or the vocabulary that goes along with the word itself here is the actual Greek word that is used in terms of gave G1325 to give; bestow, give, granted, and minister By definition it will conclude that what you're stating is saying in terms of not having profits apostles or any of the other giftings not being in operation would be inconclusive with the actual definition itself for the word "gave" which essentially means to give or give which is indicative to realize that it is something that is perpetually doing even now. Apostle Moses
@adammitchell5037
7 ай бұрын
Amen! Now that’s spot on.
@tomtemple69
7 ай бұрын
context decides definition.... you can't just go into a verse and look up the definition of a word " it actually means to give which means continual" since when does "to give" mean continuity? I were TO GIVE you a gift, did it happen once or is that happening continually?
@christopherfletcher7879
7 ай бұрын
Do you believe that the apostle Paul was a true apostle?@@tomtemple69
@teresajamison-bradley9938
7 ай бұрын
I agree that there are no Apostles or Prophets today. If you look at what all the Apostles and Prophets did and went through just declaring the Word of God, no one would want to be an Apostle or Prophet. They were ridiculed, tortured and martyred for the sake of Christ. When they brought a message from the Lord it was for Correction!!! None of the "Apostles or Prophets" bring messages of correction but riches and wealth.
@swebsterbell
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for making the distinction between gifting and office. (i.e. prophet and prophecy)
@Trying2beholy
7 ай бұрын
“If we can’t say who is not(a prophet) then they can’t say who is.” Amen amen amen!!!
@conradbascombe
7 ай бұрын
A pastor must be able to teach, but a teacher of the word doesn't mean that they are a pastor. You can be a teacher of the word without be ing called as a pastor.
@djidjine5082
7 ай бұрын
Agreed
@adammitchell5037
7 ай бұрын
Amen! Now that’s spot on. End. Conversation!
@mrwendell2343
7 ай бұрын
Pastors and teachers. Ephesians chapter 4:1-14
@Angelalex242
7 ай бұрын
That's true enough. The person leading a Bible Study isn't necessarily a pastor.
@mrwendell2343
7 ай бұрын
@@Angelalex242 Romans chapter 10:1-17. There must be a preacher, a man, not a woman. Women so called preachers is blasphemous.
@musicalengineer4355
7 ай бұрын
I listened to this and i have several questions as follows: (1) if we having the holy Spirit means that the church doesn't need the apostle or the prophet, then why did the new testament church need them? They also had the holy Spirit yet there were apostles and prophets. Wouldn't Jesus have said to peter and the rest, that after the holy Spirit comes(acts 2), Peter apostles won't be needed. now the context of Ephesians 4:11, is a package verse, it shouldn't be separated, Paul was clear he being jesus gave some, but WE MUST READ VERSES 11, 12, AND 13!! Paul said the Apostle, Prophet, Pastor/teacher was for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry AND to edify the body. So Paul said these are for the saints and to edify the body. QUESTION (2) since Paul associated these with the saints and the body, shouldn't these exist as long as the saints and the body of Christ exist. Paul was specific, these are for the edifying of the body. All 4 are needed to edify the body, again when Paul wrote this letter, he was writing to spirit filled believers. VERSE 13, Paul said the apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor/teacher was given for the perfecting of the saints, to edify the body of Christ, UNTIL WE REACH ONENESS IN FAITH AND KNOWLEDGE AS A WHOLE BODY! Now QUESTION (3) 1 corthians 12 Paul said God has appointed in the church Apostle, Prophet, and teachers. Then Paul stated in verse 31, earnestly desire and strive for best gifts or greater gifts. What greater gifts Paul??
@movieemcee5652
7 ай бұрын
Excellent questions. I was asking the same ones about this video.
@Sojourner-cd8go
7 ай бұрын
Luke 2:36-39, 1 Corinthians 14:29, Acts 11:28, 1 Thessalonians 5:20, Acts 13:1, Acts 15:32, Acts 21:9 all talk about prophets and teachers. The issue with not having a four fold ministry function doesn't jive with Paul's writings concerning each "member" having it's own unique contribution to add to the body. Now as to how those functions are expressed in this dispensation, that's a whole other ball of wax. Those who appoint and send themselves, God will judge. Just my thoughts.
@spikelee007
7 ай бұрын
Excellent, spot on! Sound teaching.
@davidwilliams4648
7 ай бұрын
To God be the Glory!!! Thanks for the teaching 🙏🏾
@betsylynnvedrine3784
4 ай бұрын
In Africa , they mention this title all the time
@ArcRecon4
7 ай бұрын
I agree with Damien, I have experience as well as Biblical knowledge.
@realbarrylipscombjr
7 ай бұрын
“Until we come into the unity of the faith”. Has that happened yet with all the confusion and division in the body of Christ 😮???
@SmartChristiansLife
7 ай бұрын
It simply refers to the purpose of what was given. It nowhere states they would be given in perpetuity. Which is why the aorist (past tense) verb was used verses the imperfect or participle.
@realbarrylipscombjr
7 ай бұрын
@@SmartChristiansLifeI appreciate your response. I enjoyed your videos on combating the so called “deliverance ministry” I’ve been coming out against this in some sermons I preached. God bless.
@conradbascombe
7 ай бұрын
@@SmartChristiansLife True, however if that's the case why does the pastoral-teacher and roles continue? 🤔 I have studied this over the last decade or so looking at both sides of the coin. I have looked at it in Greek as well and have come to the conclusion that there no more like the apostle like the 12 or like paul. However, the fruits of the ministry has been visible throught church history as it pertains to church planting, oversight, appointment of elders and many other facets. We all should know the difference between the apostles chosen by Christ and today's apostles who have been used in an apostolic capacity like my personal favorite Bishop Charles Harrison Mason.
@jameshines9330
7 ай бұрын
Did you read the part about when Jesus will say depart from me I never knew you? We are not all Gods children.
@Antjohns89
7 ай бұрын
Man im nobody not academically biblically educated but most divisive issues within the body of Christ would be done away with if people would read scripture for what it says and not read into it what someone has told you or what you want it to say
@williamwegesend8837
7 ай бұрын
I believe there are modern day prophets, Apostles etc. problem is there are to many self proclaimed prophets ,apostles, pastors, teachers as well. It’s crazy how many false titles and messages going around. A true modern day prophet, apostle is called by God alone. He alone ‘appoints’ them & truthfully we wouldn’t know that because this person would not be calling himself these titles.
@user-yr6xc7gg8q
7 ай бұрын
I agree
@johnnywilliams5853
7 ай бұрын
❤
@wendya5887
4 ай бұрын
Try study the beginnings of NAR. Reviving those offices has been nothing but problems ever since. That should make people question why it died? Maybe it never was supposed to be revived? They all started anointing Jane doe even to be a prophet. That’s already false teaching. For every prophet I used to follow, I see much errors. Started studying myself and coming away from those churches too. So far what I heard and studied, those offices were only in Bible as canon was being written. I mean apostles and prophets….the laying of the foundation.
@parrell1012
6 ай бұрын
Love God with all your heart mind and soul and spirit. Love your neighbor as yourself and you have fulfilled the law. This is a divine work from above. Put away all your opinions. Find a hungry family to feed and you will fare better than deciding if you agree with this or that. Peace.
@dichinero9841
7 ай бұрын
What software/app is brother Corey using please? For the Greek/English parallel. Thanks
@texrex3
7 ай бұрын
Yeah I told him he was wrong as well on his TikTok channel. The cool part is he does respond to some responses, not all, and it’s ok he didn’t respond to me. But in general his responses to the videos people tag him in is spot on and what you might say.
@mariebright6985
7 ай бұрын
Shalom man of God and many blessings to you and to your beautiful wife and families (personal/ministries). I know the first man of God presented in this clip means well, but he is incorrect about the presence of these two ministerial gifts in The Body of Christ. The roles of the apostles and prophets are still active in The Body today. In Ephesians 4 you made mention of how the word "gave" is used in verse 11 of Ephesians 4. The word "give" is past tense because it reveals what The Messiah Jesus Christ supplied His people with before His ascension. He made sure these important ministerial roles were put in place before He returned back to The Father. Which validates the importance of these roles in the next verse. Verse 12 states, that The Messiah Jesus Christ gave those roles "For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ." This work is still going on. Born again believers are still being perfected under these roles. The Body is still doing the work of ministry under these roles, and we are still edifying the body of Christ under these roles. The Messiah left these roles in the earth for His people because they play a vital and important part in the building of His people Israel and His Church. The Most High God did not remove the roles of the apostles and the prophets from The Body. Those roles minister the life of The Most High God to others just like the roles of the evangelist, pastor, and teacher. And He is still revealing His mysteries through the roles of the apostle and the prophet. The Word of God is an eternal book. It expresses a life that is built around eternity. This means that there are revelations in this book that are revealed through His wisdom. He exalts His Word above His name because of the spiritual laws and principles and wisdom it is governed under. Those things express the eternal existence of His holiness and who He is as God. And He does not disclose deeper revelation to people who do not have a real covenant relationship with Him or who tries to box Him in to their own human reasoning. This is book carries a totally different realm of life, which reveals that there is alot to uncover and discover about the God we know and serve. So I have to agree with the second man of God on this one. Because of my own personal experiences with those two roles, I know they are still in operation. And many more believers can confirm this truth through their own experiences as well. We have had our share of seeing the counterfeit when it comes to these significant roles in The Most High's Kingdom, but it is the legitimate ones that caused us to see real life changing experiences in our walk with redemption. God Bless you man of God and thank you for allowing me to share this. Shalom unto you and to your beautiful wife and families.
@patrickbrowne4606
7 ай бұрын
Amen.
@pebbles9908
7 ай бұрын
I have a Master Degree in Theological Studies from New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary. There are no more prophets and no more Apostles. Jesus was the final Revelation of God...b/c Jesus is God. The Bible is the whole counsel of God. Islam says that Muhammad was the final revelator but that's false. Islam and Christianity have nothing in common..
@djidjine5082
7 ай бұрын
The Bible says “And in the last days it shall be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams.” So if we are in the last days as the church keeps preaching, there are prophets. But there are also MANYY false prophets. Jesus warns us about them. I’m pretty sure people would call Daniel a false prophet because his dreams didn’t come to past right away.
@cierrahp9702
7 ай бұрын
You don't have to be in the office of a prophet or apostle to prophesy. Anyone can have the spiritual gift of prophecy.
@djidjine5082
7 ай бұрын
@@cierrahp9702 The Holy Spirit gives the gift to whom he sees fit. You may have that gift and I don’t. I feel like prophets don’t usually state their title unless they have a message from the Lord. Like if I had the gift I wouldn’t be going around telling people I’m a prophet! That can get to my head. I would wait for God to send me.
@Angelalex242
7 ай бұрын
That's the thing. Revelation has not triggered. So these aren't actually the last days.
@jesussaves520
15 күн бұрын
Amen I been saying it
@wjdyr6261
7 ай бұрын
Who said and where does it say that God no ordains apostles and prophets? God still has apostles and prophets today. They simply don't or shouldn't be blowing rheir own horn.
@hmoore76
Ай бұрын
Good video, and agreed.
@opinionatorX
7 ай бұрын
This question should settle the debate. What new revelation will the so called modern day prophet give in addition to the bible?
@jerryschacht5421
7 ай бұрын
Modern day "Prophet" would say the Word that is already in the Bible not adding anything new, not taking anything from it and not twisting it either. He would say it led by the Holy Sprit to the people that God wants him to, in the time God is choosing.
@vic.nicmusic
7 ай бұрын
The Be heard dude usually does a decent job at handling the scriptures inspite of how obviously church hurt he is. But he's way off the mark on this one..
@ADONISTHEBROKER
6 ай бұрын
What website or workspace are you using to convert the scripture into the Hebrew/Greek, versions?
@Tony-LoveJesus
7 ай бұрын
I’m so sick of people acting like puppets, jumping on Corey’s bandwagon, as if he’s right and the Bible’s wrong, because not one Corey follower can show me one Bible verse that said prophets are Apostles have ceased……… because it’s not there 🤦🏾
@926paaja
7 ай бұрын
What scriptures prove that “being an Apostle” is still happening today? Not church planter or missionary but “APOSTLE”
@SmartChristiansLife
7 ай бұрын
You can settle the issue now by pointing out one Prophet or Apostle today. Then we can see for ourselves
@Tony-LoveJesus
6 ай бұрын
@@SmartChristiansLife look up Apostle Lobias Murray, study the work he’s done the miracles the signs following God wrought through this man. From raising the dead, to opening blinded eyes. There’s many real ones, but you guys be so caught up exposing the false Apostles and prophets until you throw the wheat in the same bunch as the tares. But look him up and study his work.
@Tony-LoveJesus
6 ай бұрын
@@926paaja Ephesians 4:11-12 KJV And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; [12] For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: I showed you where he added them now you show me where he excluded them.
@ezekielsumuni557
7 ай бұрын
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@rashadjackson1555
7 ай бұрын
No more !
@straighttruthradio
7 ай бұрын
The problem with this thought is we are in the same dispensation in which these Ascension gifts have been given.
@newwinepropheticministry222
Ай бұрын
@smartchristianslife we can’t use the past tense of have to say their is no more Apostles & Prophets in that case you would have to say their are no more pastors etc
@jamesfields4149
7 ай бұрын
Luk 11:49 Therefore also said the wisdom of God, I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they shall slay and persecute: Luk 11:50 That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation; Luk 11:51 From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias, which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation. Luk 11:52 Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered. Eze 13:4 O Israel, thy prophets are like the foxes in the deserts. Eze 13:5 Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel to stand in the battle in the day of the LORD. Eze 13:6 They have seen vanity and lying divination, saying, The LORD saith: and the LORD hath not sent them: and they have made others to hope that they would confirm the word.
@Sowah023
7 ай бұрын
Not understanding English grammar and how to understand it makes it difficult for some.
@djeson214
3 ай бұрын
“There are no more prophets and no more apostles” the Bible does not state it anywhere, the apostles spoke in future tense to the Church when they said to continue in and entrust to faithful men these things that cessationists preach against
@Pastor_Grant
7 ай бұрын
Paul said he was the last (1 Cor 15)
@christopherfletcher7879
7 ай бұрын
Question did Paul see Jesus death
@philw9787
6 ай бұрын
@@christopherfletcher7879He taught by Jesus. Galatians 1:11-12
@woodshed_moments
7 ай бұрын
I just love when these urban street preachers apply these titles, apostle is probably the most misplaced out of all of them, because the age of the apostle started with Jesus calling the 12 disciples that he chose apostles for a very specific reason, the term "apostle" to witness... (Acts 4:33) They were chosen for a very specific reason, this is a dispensation, what is a dispensation? From a theological perspective which is the only one where to have, witnessed the resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ therefore they would be then sent out two by two. The Bible says, "by the testimony of two or three, a thing is established" Which is why they were sent out two by two, after the first century church was established, and the apostles went out and testified to the ministry, death and then subsequent resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ by the two by two witnesses (apostles) this is what seeded the first century Church... People today using the term are out of their minds, they have not witnessed anything, but people are witnessing them make a fool out of themselves. Somebody is labeling themselves an apostle, correct them and then move on from them.
@nessakay02
7 ай бұрын
"Be heard" is someone I just recently found out about, and I like that he addresses a lot of wrongs doings in the church. But he's not always correct in his teachings. Gotta be careful.
@SmartChristiansLife
7 ай бұрын
Yeah, I've only seen a few of his videos, but I need to pay attention to what he says
@andrewhaine7217
2 ай бұрын
15:35 - Paul also didn't see the "pre-resurrected" Jesus. The way Paul saw Him is the way everyone else would today. And there's a good reason for that, don't you think?
@BEABEREAN10
7 ай бұрын
We see the Early church father's like iraneous, polycarp, and Clement speak of prophets and prophetic gifts and miracles, (including casting out demons) and even the didache 11 talks about receiving a prophet. Iraneous: For some do certainly and truly drive out devils...Others have foreknowledge of things to come: they see visions, and utter prophetic expressions. Others still, heal the sick by laying their hands upon them, and they are made whole. (Against Heresies 2.32.4) Ephesians 4 says 4 (or 5) ministry gifts will be needed untill we come to unity of the faith. We're the Apostles and prophets foundational, absolutely, but that doesn't mean we don't still need what they have been given from God. The argument usually goes that the Apostles and prophets helped establish the scriptures, which is true in a sense, but only for a very small number of the spotless and prophets as we don't have any NT scriptures from Agabus and we don't have writings from most of the apostles either. Just weird to me that someone like Agabus would only be useful back in the first century and we claim we don't need him now because we have the written cannon....except the canon doesn't show us things that pertain to our life personally like a coming famine or a trial that is coming on a certain journey.
@jaylanjackson1638
7 ай бұрын
Hello Everyone!
@jackiebratton5049
3 ай бұрын
Pastors and teachers are one
@jamesbanks2329
7 ай бұрын
Left Terry Anderson alone a while ago.
@mp1757ify
7 ай бұрын
every religious person has a different take on the faith. That is why we have so much confusion in the faith
@jackiebratton5049
3 ай бұрын
Yes sir Go back and read it again
@myself4128
7 ай бұрын
God’s Final Word: His Son 1 In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. Hebrews1:1-2
@user-ct7bz6tl4h
Ай бұрын
Shape shift 💪 ing
@hard12takedown
2 ай бұрын
Saul/Paul was not a follower of Jesus and did not know him before his crucifixion. The narrative of the Book of Acts suggests Paul's conversion occurred 4-7 years after the crucifixion of Jesus.
@myself4128
7 ай бұрын
Hebrews 1:1-2 God’s Final Word: His Son 1 In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.
@BEABEREAN10
7 ай бұрын
Is the ministry of a prophet like Agabus only beneficial if we *dont* have a completed canon? I'm not sure how you can claim that since the words agabus gave were more personal to coming events. These prophecies had no bearing on scripture, they were foretelling and helpful to the church at that time. Secondly, we dont even have scripture from Agabus yet many say that if there are still prophets then the canon would be open....
@aronhudson2054
7 ай бұрын
If God's don't have prophets today what do God have today
@ManuelCongo78
7 ай бұрын
@SmartChristiansLife is it correct to assume that if a 'pastor' is unqualified to teach, he is in violation of the office???😮
@marcusmarkus3266
Ай бұрын
Agree with you. There are signs according to the New Testament regarding the qualification what both an apostle and prophet are. 99.9%t of them do not qualify I think most who call themselves apostles now use Paul's view when he was on the road to Damascus and Yeshua spoke to him. and called him to the apostleship. This apostate church which is mostly flesh gives these titles to men/women feel to make them feel like they have arrived, or they are the upper echelon of Yah' s people, promoting the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which Yah hates
@BEABEREAN10
7 ай бұрын
"He gave"....this is not a past tense talking about apostles and prophets being given in the past only. Come on now. The past tense apllies to the fact that jesus ascension was in the past. If you run with this you've got to say all of these have ceased which actually I do know some people beleive that because they take it to the logical conclusion.
@ashermarcus5242
7 ай бұрын
I am east indian and in our ethnical background so many are claiming the titles of Apostle and Prophet. Sad thing is that humdreds of thousands of people around the world...because there are east indian nd Pakistani people not only in the native countries...continue to follow and in many cases idolize these so called leaders even though they will deny that reality.
@adammitchell5037
7 ай бұрын
You got so many claim to be Pastor’s around the world but was not called by God so if you’re not called by God you really not a Pastor!
@theotisfielder718
7 ай бұрын
1st Corinthians 12:28-29
@AnimeCafe93
7 ай бұрын
Here’s the question what has the Holy Spirit spoken to us through??? The scriptures…
@lorrainenewbold6157
4 ай бұрын
A prophet is a man sent by God who is not afraid to speak the real words of the Scriptures! When you speak the truth from the Scriptures, human nature is to rebel against the real words of the living God! An Apostles speak only the words of God Almighty! God said cry loud spear not and show them all of their sin!!! An Apostle knows have to brake down the Scriptures so that you can understand the mystery of the Holy Scriptures. Most people are good at quoting Scriptures, but don't know what they are talking about! Just quoting Scriptures all over the place but don't know have to brake them down. The Scriptures also said that my sheep hear my voice and follow me! So if you don't know the voice of God you will follow anything and end up in hell with the devil!!!
@user-vb8bh5nu8s
3 ай бұрын
There are apostle,prophets,evangelists,,pastors and teacher,,,Agabus was a prophet,,silas was a prophet,,,...its just that many have misuesd this offices.
@jinmakeeper9146
15 күн бұрын
There is an apostle today and his name is Apostle L.C. Mathis
@KOKchurch
7 ай бұрын
Also in terms of apostles Barnabas never had an experience with God the way that your articulating and there are a few other apostles in Scripture that we do not know if they saw Jesus the way that you are articulating so this is where as someone who trains apostles prophets evangelists and teachers This is where I kind of have an issue which you're saying if we're going to read the whole Bible the criteria that you use in doesn't really fall in line with the biblical context because some of the apostles in the New testament don't meet the requirement is standard that you're presenting as well again I love your content I love what you do you always have great content I will have to say I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one The definition disagrees with you and I won't have to stay consistent with the holy Word of God
@SmartChristiansLife
7 ай бұрын
Who does the Bible say sent Barnabas? According to scriptures Barnabas was sent by the Church at Antioch. (Acts 13-14).
@napoleonshaw75
7 ай бұрын
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@jeremiahmang9710
2 ай бұрын
Ephesians 4:11-12 KJV [11] And he gave SOME , apostles; and SOME , prophets; and SOME, evangelists; and SOME, pastors and teachers; [12] For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: I believe that you need to check your Greek again thoroughly it is five that was given and you look at the scripture carefully you will see it is five were not four. If some preachers said that there is no more apostles and prophets then this will not be written in the scriptures, Paul, the Apostle will not be wasting his time to address this to the church of Ephesians. Jesus the Lord God almighty no need Paul never denied and said that there is no more Apostle and Prophets, preachers that is saying that there is no more apostles and prophets. It is not lining up with the word of God you must show proof that it is written in the word of God. Remember this when we read the scriptures it was written to the people back then now they are no longer here, it is addressing to us today. God’s word does not change.
@patriciafortune8200
7 ай бұрын
How will we know when we have seen a true apostle or prophet?
@thewatcher4552
7 ай бұрын
They can't help themselves. it puts them on a pedestal. When I see people say that in the black church, I laugh😅 It's a red flag. We live in the age of no or very few sound doctrines black churches.
@conradbascombe
7 ай бұрын
I think we should all know that there are no prophets and apostles like in the scripture. However, I absolutely believe that there are prophets and apostles today. The mantel was given to the body of Christ once and for all and I believe that he is still using the same mantel on others to continue the role. I think you are reading it wrong my brother.
@adammitchell5037
7 ай бұрын
Amen! Now that’s spot on.
@tomtemple69
7 ай бұрын
mantle? where is that in the Bible? you know who makes that claim? the catholic church do they have the mantle?
@conradbascombe
7 ай бұрын
@@tomtemple69 mantel is a metaphor l. I am not adding to the scriptures.
@mrwendell2343
7 ай бұрын
There are some that have the gift, however, they are not foundational. 5 fold ministry is a man made term. Often used to say that 5fold is for men and women.
@vmonk1474
7 ай бұрын
My apostle is Paul. Not any of these guys today claiming that God is speaking directly to them, giving them revelation that no one else has. Beware of those who claim that.
@vincenth.8793
7 ай бұрын
It’s just another case of man wanting to be more than what we are. LIFE IS NOT A MARVEL MOVIE, leave the all the “super” stuff to God. We are to live a meek life to glorify God, not us. Amen.
@salemchristianchurch
6 ай бұрын
Please explain Ephesians 1:13
@AirMessenger
7 ай бұрын
You probably don't know this: the sound byte your using at 0:10 is from a song of the devil's. By an artist called Pharoahe Monch.
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