If you think No Tank’s Land is difficult now, think about this - infantry is coming, and this will probably be one of the scenarios that get them.
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
That should be alot of fun.
@knmc_2
Жыл бұрын
@@thewonderwaffleofficial finally a use for my EXTRA BEEFY MACHINE GUN BLOCK
@a2e5
Жыл бұрын
at least there's no WWI shaped charge! on the other hand, they still have dynamite...
@MrTankThatStopped
Жыл бұрын
@@a2e5 a.t rifle
@Neuttah
Жыл бұрын
Is that the sound of 75mm making a comeback, I hear?
@eta320
Жыл бұрын
This scenario was even worse when the first game dropped. I played it on day 3 and traction was so poorly implemented it was impossible to gain traction and you slipped into the smallest shell holes. And your engine could never produce enough power to get out. The journey to beat that level fundamentally changed me as a person
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
It is a bit easier nowadays, definitely.
@Frog_FootYT
8 ай бұрын
I love your vids eta
@mr.jancok4413
Жыл бұрын
the only 2 design that I made that manage to beat this level was a light 7 tons light tank in the shape of a mix between the French FT and a the German Panzer 38t, then a massive 25 tons behemoth with the shape of a mix of the hull of French Char 2C and the turret of the German Panzer 4 ausf.A and so in order to beat the level you either need a light enough tank to use the wooden bridge or a long enough hull to drive over the trenches, you don't really need effective thickness above 30mm as the enemy gun can barely pen a 15mm at 200 meters flat on, and so a simple side skirt can make your tank practically immune from the enemy shell, other than that you can set the gun and engine to whatever you like though I recommended you have at least 35mm of pen so you can snipe the enemy light tank and pen the rear of the big boy tank though you can just by pass them as they don't have a good mobility
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
Gun dynamics were changed with 0.124 - now alot of the enemy vehicles have 30-40mm of penetration. 15mm is a bit insufficient nowadays except at very long range.
@mr.jancok4413
Жыл бұрын
@@thewonderwaffleofficial as I said 200meter is quite a far range specially for WW1 and inter-war era guns, a 15mm at 30-40 degrees can hold pretty well at medium ranges, and as everybody always does we tend to snipe the AT gun first then make our way to the artillery position so a thick armor aren't really necessary the only problem is the big boy tank which activate when you near the artillery which have around 45mm of pen at that close range and very strong armor but can hardly move from their spawn so you can avoid them but to be fair the main problem that people have aren't how be immune from enemy guns, but how to cross the damned trenches and not slide into a muddy hole
@jonsouth1545
Жыл бұрын
I madw essentially a copy of the FCM 1A the 40 ton predecessor to the Char 2C and it found the level easy then again at 8.27m long trench crossing should be a dream
@spottySTC
Жыл бұрын
I beat it with low-caliber gun. But i shaped my shells in such a way that they've became sort of a high-velocity darts. You may say that i invented WW1 APFSDS, but in fact, i just tried to recreate a cannon that was a thing back in the days, or rather same principle that some guns used. For example, S.Pz.B.41 - that gun has "two calibers". 28/20 mm. Сhannel narrows towards the outlet and it gives the shell more speed. More speed - more penetration. And thanks to relatively low caliber my reloader was able to reload the cannon pretty fast.
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, low-caliber high-velocity guns are very strong in this era.
@Camilo_Z
Жыл бұрын
@@thewonderwaffleofficial Yep, i have a inter-war tank (not exactly ww1 but its okay) with a 30mm and it beats ambush without any losses almost consistently
@kalle5548
Жыл бұрын
My brother went in and made a 1mm caliper Canon, it reloads pretty much instantly, and it goes so fast it's not even funny, and with APHE anything is just one click away from destruction, truly gamebreaking
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
@@kalle5548 Yep, it's just a tiiiiiiny bit OP
@MarcinP2
Жыл бұрын
I literally asked ChatGPT to roleplay as procurement board and give me specs. 1st try it nailed the main cannon penetration, armor, horsepower and size/weight. It demanded a tank with pretty good side armor but 9 tons top, I was struggling.
@eta320
Жыл бұрын
That’s a really cool concept! 😊
@MistahFox
Жыл бұрын
@@eta320 Oh hey eta! I loved your sherman video!
@Micha-wb9oz
5 ай бұрын
@@eta320 Wait, eta??
@freditarenomm7987
Жыл бұрын
No tanks land used to be really easy back in the day when the planks could actually carry weight. The lazily made trenches and underpowered engines really make this a tough map. I have spent most of my playtime playing no tanks land. I refuse to use any suspension but double bogey and I refuse to use any steering but braking. I've beaten it a few times, once even by making an artillery piece myself and just firing back.
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
FYI, there currently is a bug with clutch braking where vehicles “oversteer” and point their sides/rear to the enemy.
@catconfirmed
Жыл бұрын
Really neat guide ❤ the biggest turn off for this scenario is definitely the slow speed
@sagrud
Жыл бұрын
What came suddenly to my mind - how nice it would be if Sprocket would allow you to export you Tank design as an .STL file to lay hands on a physical version of you tank 🤤
@sgtNACHO
Жыл бұрын
Best tank to beat this scenario with is actually a tank destroyer. Enough armor up front to bounce shots, dont have to worry about slow turret traverse, save on weight. Make it long enough to clear trenches, but enough engine for speed. We all think WW1 with the slow tanks, but speed is the only way to reliably cross the trenches and actually get to the end.
@ambasutori9053
Жыл бұрын
Basically, just make a variant of the mk 4 with a centered gun - thats what i did and had little problem beating the level with
@MyLonewolf25
Жыл бұрын
“The German tog 2 doesn’t exist it can’t hurt you” the German tog 2;
@KWyzel
Жыл бұрын
From the testing I've done, you have to have decent enough armor to survive the two waves of enemy tanks, an engine with enough horsepower to cross the trenches and pull itself out of craters, and a gun that has a quick reload and enough penetration to take out the enemy tanks. I've beaten the scenario with two vehicles, a (somehow) 16 ton A7V knock off with a 5.7cm L/26 and 40mms of frontal armor, and a knock off 8 ton German LK II with a 3.7cm L/22 with 28mms of Frontal Armor, I did beat the scenario both times fighting largely solo as I told my AI teammates to halt upon starting the scenario, so I could more accurately test the vehicles performance.
@domingos8214
Жыл бұрын
Another way to make trench-crossing tanks is by making a tail you can see this on FT tanks
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
Realistically, yeah, but Sprocket isn't the greatest in terms of realistically modeling traction, since idlers and sprockets don't have fully-modeled traction systems. Still better than War Thunder for some vehicles, at least.
@usedtoberyanpoopnownormal8822
Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure back then, but you can now add the tails as a attachment
@stefansmiljanic1697
Жыл бұрын
I remember that I used a small (about 14 tons) tank, which basically had only front armour and max engine, and it was both cheap and effective
@friedtomatoes4946
Жыл бұрын
Honestly I found no tanks land to be not that much harder than the other scenarios. It had some things you had to work for but I just built a really big pancake that was long and was a tank destroyer. Third attempt with that design and I got it 👍
@Omba820
Жыл бұрын
I just build a decently fast tank for ww1 with stupidly good armour for its weight and all that. But now i really want to build a full on landship
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
Landships can be tricky to do, especially in this scenario, since you do have to be able to turn *very quickly.* Good luck!
@historybuff8908
Жыл бұрын
Hey man just found your channel so far it’s been great and pretty informative keep it up I’m Shure you’ll get big one day!
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Hoping to get there someday, we'll see!
@historicallyinsane7322
11 ай бұрын
I just made a bootleg MK-IV heavy and stuck a 25 pounder in the hull and called it a day. It took me a while to get this mission beat but I’ve finally done that. Now I can finally move on to the rest of the missions.
@thewonderwaffleofficial
11 ай бұрын
Nice! No Tank’s Land is one of the trickier ones, you should have an easy few missions ahead.
@mechastophiles2118
Жыл бұрын
Nicely done! How about a Mk IV style tank?
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
I very loosely followed that style with this vehicle. Given their original weight that was much heavier, it'd probably be alot more painful in this scenario.
@jonhg92
Жыл бұрын
the artillery shell probably says OF 135. According to war thunder (yes i just cited a videogame), shells with OF are usually high explosive
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
Makes sense, given how the artillery perform IRL and in-game.
@DaCouchWarrior
Жыл бұрын
It is not really HARD. But this ingame era just not balanced really well. And for example this mission have some bug with movement that is not exist in sandbox. So it is not hard, it is just need to be fixed. The hard mission is one where there are several King Tigers in snowy forest.
@RedVRCC
9 ай бұрын
How i beat it: -Enable the cheat to switch to latewar -Use my MBT design -Profit I still got stuck countless times because it turns out modern MBT designs arent that great at crossing trenches and craters that big. But the inclusion of machine guns via file editing made it easy to destroy the AT guns.
@thewonderwaffleofficial
8 ай бұрын
This *is* cheating though lol
@rahjah6958
Жыл бұрын
As a tank frantic, the gunner sight, drivers vision port and the position of the turret, machine gun sticking out the side bugs me 😂
@jonsouth1545
Жыл бұрын
When I did this mission I created what was essentially the FCM 1A (The much more sensible 40-ton precursor tp the Char 2c) just one of them is enough to smash this level every time
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it’s surprisingly easy to complete.
@Gentlebeing
Жыл бұрын
just make an MBT (duh) also great video keep up the good work
@lloooiis
Жыл бұрын
"hello? i am going to die." "roger" *explosion*
@Highest-Ground
9 ай бұрын
If you make a light enough tank (~8t or less I think?) It can be pretty easy to beat, although you still do need some armor anyways.
@thewonderwaffleofficial
9 ай бұрын
Yeah, there’s alot of ways to approach this scenario.
@AussieBoyLloyd
Жыл бұрын
i found NTL easy i think the 3rd tank i ever built made it across and eventually killed everything took several attempts due to getting stuck in mud / getting stuck on terrain ... the games had several updates since then tho so i might have to give it another spin
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
It’s definitely easier now than it used to be, just have to gear the engine properly.
@usedtoberyanpoopnownormal8822
Жыл бұрын
Even though tracks length, contact points and shape do matter in trench crossings. A vital part is putting that idle rpm near the limit, so you boost yourself out of trenches.
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
I was focusing more on what Sprocket uses to calculate movement, not what applies IRL.
@lazarus6125
Жыл бұрын
Gunner will be able to track moving targets with sufficient accuracy at 75% efficiency, below 75% they start moving horizontally and vertically separately.
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I found that the official "minimum" value is 71% for it to work correctly. Kind of strange that it doesn't scale gradually, but that should change with geometric internals.
@dukeofwar1003
Жыл бұрын
I always have trouble steering in this scenario. Every tank always suddenly steers in random directions
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
Tanks will be more slippery in that scenario, but erratic steering can also occur due to misconfigured transmissions.
@empireempire3545
Жыл бұрын
Wow, i've managed to beat this scenario but not even as close as well and easily as you : O
@rogerpoca9399
Жыл бұрын
so you just built a TOG 1 and1/2.......Neat
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
Pretty much, yeah. It did better than I expected.
@user-mw6hx2oi3c
Жыл бұрын
Bruh, great intro😆
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
Haha thanks
@Funky_Ghost
Жыл бұрын
I've read how this is the toughest but to me it's one of the easiest. I hate the snow filled one with a passion. I can't see them but the AI is lights out accurate. WW1 only is slow but I'm good with it in No Man's Land. If I take a late war 7 tonner I can finish it in about 1 min. 40ish seconds.
@seasuper3402
Жыл бұрын
When i first started playing this was the first mission i played and it made me think the game was too difficult to me
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's a bit easier nowadays fortunately.
@caralho5237
Жыл бұрын
what game did you take that space artillery footage from?
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
KSP 1
@OwO2620
10 ай бұрын
mark-61. (it is the name of my Mark V inspired ww1 tank)
@hughmungus9995
Жыл бұрын
He just made an uparmored bmp. Well before he completely changed the aesthetics
@arsenyjsharov2239
Жыл бұрын
Greetings! Is it possible to XML that mission to allow the usage of 4 speed transmissions like on a Whippet tank? I just don't have this game and thinking of buying it.
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
I haven't tried that, to be honest. I bet it's possible in some way, and if not you can always run a custom battle that has much fewer "checks" on if your vehicle is within the era limits or not.
@ryanvanderweel5450
Жыл бұрын
You just made a TOG.
@MilesKiyaAnny
Жыл бұрын
Oh, I didnt know this scenario is hardest in the game. I retry bout 4 or maybe 3 retry to pass it. I just got the game because many KZitemr building super angle tank so I wanted to build one myself without go over weight and I did it. I too new to the game soo the chassie is MK1 game givin me cuz I dont understand UI and other freeform shape option soo I stick with MK1 chassie but I angle it so much that if artlitary not direct hit it cant kill me and enemy tank too. After few and die 2 times to artlitry I finally understand how to improve engine and extra angle with right weight all thick frontal and side armor and kill everything and drive through bomb with 10km speed and facing actual enemy MK1 but it cant pen me but I can and kill all of its gunner and burn a few of them. Heheheh
@DBCOOPER932
Жыл бұрын
Could you make a panther 1 mixed with a tiger 2 sla 16 with tracked armor
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
I think I've done that before but with a KV-2 + Tiger 1, that was awhile ago though.
@DBCOOPER932
Жыл бұрын
You should again it would be awesome instead of just cursed tanks yk also I just subbed
@DBCOOPER932
Жыл бұрын
And I meant tiger 2 sla 16 with extra tracked amror
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
@@DBCOOPER932 Thanks for subscribing!
@DBCOOPER932
Жыл бұрын
@@thewonderwaffleofficial keep the good comtent
@righty5890
4 ай бұрын
How do you zoom in so fast when using your sight? On my end it's so painfully slow! Otherwise great video and nice looking tank
@thewonderwaffleofficial
4 ай бұрын
I probably used a rapid-zoom on my mouse that involves pressing the scroll wheel sideways.
@magolorgaming4598
23 күн бұрын
I didnt find it hard, it was just boring because of the tank being slow and frustrating if the tank just got stuck somewhere.
@rowbot5555
Жыл бұрын
I don't have much trouble with it, it just takes a while
@ElijahRoks
Жыл бұрын
Beat it with a version of the SU 100 bit smaller but good angled armor, and long enough to traverse the trenches.
@BigChungus-gx3zt
9 ай бұрын
I don’t get why everyone makes it sound so hard. I just make a tank capable of crossing without planks, good gun (ca. 90 mm) and thick armor. Sure it goes at 9 kph but it is still pretty easy. I have made around 7 tanks for this scenario and only one wasn’t able to make it, the other made it in under 10 tries each :/
@thewonderwaffleofficial
8 ай бұрын
There’s alot of game mechanics that aren’t obvious from the start, like how riveted panels can mess with your ability to cross trenches. Hence why this video is meant for new players.
@power7366
10 ай бұрын
Sorry for dumb questions. Where you get that numbers on the paint?
@thewonderwaffleofficial
10 ай бұрын
Go to livery and select a paint style.
@spacejihadist4246
9 ай бұрын
Why do I always try to build a damn panther?
@thewonderwaffleofficial
9 ай бұрын
Because conceptually it was a great design.
@spacejihadist4246
9 ай бұрын
@@thewonderwaffleofficial everytime time I play, my brain just does it and before I realize it, I already finished building it. It makes me angry on the scenarios every time. Thanks for the tips. I actually haven't finished no tanks land yet.
@tl9cs
Жыл бұрын
... I just made a field modification of my mid early war light tank for WW1 and drove past most things. I only now realised ppl struggle here (Low profile, very fast, needs speed for trenches) Dont know yet if it was luck or skill :")
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
Alot of people do tend to struggle with the scenario, especially since it's the first one you see when opening the game, meaning new players who don't have the game mechanics down are thrown straight into this one.
@anonimosu7425
Жыл бұрын
pray you don’t get slapped by artillery.
@o.o262
Жыл бұрын
Why does it remind me of the TOG 2?
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
Not too far off from it TBF
@MyLonewolf25
Жыл бұрын
It’s basically a German tog 2
@Markty07
Жыл бұрын
You could have increased the driver space with all of that free space
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
Sure, but it’s useless to give him more space since mobility performance isn’t affected by driver space. This may change in the future.
@rubinolas6998
9 ай бұрын
So you basically made the TOG II
@thewonderwaffleofficial
9 ай бұрын
Yep, kind of.
@sirtommenom2949
Жыл бұрын
ok just that i get that right ur target was 10 tons.... u had to much space and then made the tank smaller with that u hit ur targets of 10 tons! (and i thought nice so hes gonna test and win now i guess) and then u started to decorate ur tank.... ( that was the moment that i dont get) u pushed up to 12 tons again and made even more space then there was before for deco? wha....? i mean dont get me wrong ur tank is good and there is no problem (except maybe the showing of complicated "deco" wich new players most likely will try to copy and fail to do so #frustration) but u cut down ur tracks and fule and stuff to save weight and space and then ruin the idea with deco so im a lil bit confuseld about it😅
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
You're correct that the deco cancelled some of the weight savings. it's hard to expect new players to build a perfect tank though. The decoration was more to add style to the build (so that we weren't staring at a basic steel block for the second half of the video), but it also shows that you don't have to make a "perfect" tank to beat the scenario. TL;DR I showed how to build a close to "perfect" tank, then demonstrated that you don't need a perfect tank to win the scenario.
@sirtommenom2949
Жыл бұрын
@@thewonderwaffleofficial wellp thats true nice to get a Explanation :) thx and have a great one
@MrTankThatStopped
Жыл бұрын
Makeshift tog?
@rawnukles
Жыл бұрын
What was the music playing at 2:15 onwards
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
That's one of the built-in game soundtracks
@rawnukles
Жыл бұрын
@@thewonderwaffleofficial OH so you don't know. I've heard it on Ukraine war videos too
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
@@rawnukles Well, it is stock music. You might want to ask the people who have it in their Ukraine war videos. The Sprocket community would definitely be interested in knowing where the music came from!
@M0oseTacular
Жыл бұрын
step 1 build tog step 2 profit?
@kazakhstanisastate4614
Жыл бұрын
i didnt fin i hard at all my first tank desing kinda clobbered the enemy
@bruvreallymate4365
Жыл бұрын
why design a viable tank, i just had like 15 bt7s with 20mm/300s strapped to them
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
This video was meant primarily as a guide for new players, so a meme build wouldn’t have been as effective in showing how to beat the scenario.
@user-fb9md5ev7g
Ай бұрын
why ain’t nobody talking about the amongus on the tank?
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Ай бұрын
Because the sussy impostor scared everyone away
@DuMacaco
6 ай бұрын
I beat it easily with a heavy saint-chamonde style tank with a 113 mm cannon
@circlesquared6633
Жыл бұрын
How do you make a Cylinder turret
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
It’s a generic cylinder blueprint I have saved
@circlesquared6633
Жыл бұрын
Ok thanks i guess
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
@@circlesquared6633 If you're in the official Sprocket Discord, I have the compartment blueprint here: discord.com/channels/788349365466038283/1091300824300388412/1115770493702770768 Otherwise you can make your own by just taking a basic square and extruding the sides with a decreasing width, until you have a mostly round edge.
@circlesquared6633
Жыл бұрын
@@thewonderwaffleofficial I have tried to extrude the sides and I don't really understand it but thank you for the link
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
@@circlesquared6633 I'll recommend MSAID's Freeform guide for learning the basics on how to use it: kzitem.info/news/bejne/2ph50XasoYeclHY I'll probably make my own beginner's guide at some point after Geometric Internals releases.
@spee8132
7 ай бұрын
Only way ive been able to beat it is with a landship that took 10 minutes to get to where the enemy artillery was lol
@thewonderwaffleofficial
7 ай бұрын
10 minutes is typical tbf
@mr.k7457
Жыл бұрын
british maus
@thesoulfury4591
Жыл бұрын
ww1 maus
@vralingfrostmere1561
Жыл бұрын
No tanks land aint shit, give me 30 minutes I'll build you a tank that can beat it, the real trouble is crossroads, fighting a late war tank with mid war tech and you're at a weight disadvantage, it's really horrible. Taiga is just as bad because you can't see through the shrubs but the ai can and once again, you're at a weight disadvantage, they get like 7 tanks and you get at most 3.
@blackman2
Жыл бұрын
GOOD GIRL
@kirklazarus1132
Жыл бұрын
Apparently I arrived just in time to claim the 1,000th like.
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
Well thanks for liking! I was not expecting this much reception for my video, wow!
@hometest8603
Жыл бұрын
it was easy for me
@342Rodry
Жыл бұрын
looks very british if you ask me
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
I was using the British WWI tanks as a reference when adding the aesthetics, so makes sense
@Galexia_the_celestial
Жыл бұрын
Shoulda just made a mk4 B)
@Ahmetevy920
Жыл бұрын
Yo is that KSP
@user-lc7rr6ff2m
Жыл бұрын
waiiiiiit KSP?!
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
Yep. Modded KSP is a very useful tool for filming unconventional artillery.
@Vextonomy
Жыл бұрын
waggke
@lurtzy_
Жыл бұрын
what??? difficult??? this is the easiest map
@thewonderwaffleofficial
Жыл бұрын
For alot of people, not really. There’s alot more factors involved which scenarios like Dunes and Ambush don’t have.
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