That is such a bizarre story about this documentary was shown in a red light district and people laughing. This is one of the few times I have heard Noam Chomsky sounding this emotional.
@BT-oj1bn
6 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the movie Jarhead where all the marines watch Apocalypse Now and cheer so vigorously like it's the greatest thing that ever happened.
@coreycox2345
6 жыл бұрын
This must have been the most obscene thing to ever appear in a red light district. How could people be that hideous?
@Halberstramshaberdashery
Жыл бұрын
It was a combination of things. The fact the US was attacked “unprovoked” or so that was what the general population thought, by people who looked different, had very different customs, religion, etc. combined with the fact that at the time, the Japanese military were insanely cruel “conquerors” and had just committed unspeakably horrible crimes against the Chinese population, similar to what the Germans did to the Russians when they invaded and the Jewish populations of countries they invaded (sadistic medical experiments on the Chinese, bayoneting babies, mass rape, executions, etc.) all of this was used in a propaganda campaign against the Japanese in schools and military recruiting stations across the US. It resulted in a deep seated racial hatred and an extreme form of “othering” and dehumanization (making them look like evil monsters threatening the American way of life and meant to “intensify the resolve” of the US servicemen about to fight the Japanese.
@paradiso123
6 жыл бұрын
If only more people in this world could be as wise and moral as Noam Chomsky.
@BulentBasaran
6 жыл бұрын
Let's start with you and me. Noam is good, and it's ok to keep listening to him, and learning from him, but, let's also have faith in the new generation. Socrates' challenge: I want to be happy, good and wise. Be still. Get in touch with all that's happy, good and wise in you. Peace.
@HeelPower200
6 жыл бұрын
Unlikely, He's just innately a cut above most of us. He's just several times more intelligent and mentally capable than most hope to be.
@BulentBasaran
6 жыл бұрын
HeelPower200 The key question is for each one of us: am I being as intelligent, aware and conscious as I can be?
6 жыл бұрын
Intelligence and morals, some have one or the other, some have both and some have neither. You don't have to be intelligent to have morals, but to intelligent and have low or no morals is odd to say the least.
@paradiso123
6 жыл бұрын
+C J Titan Intelligence without morals looks like Henry Kissinger.
@_RedWizard
6 жыл бұрын
I had Professor Hasagawa at UCSB. I remember studying how the Japanese were trying to surrender to the Soviets but they declared war instead.
@philipgolding3672
Жыл бұрын
My Father was part of NZ armed forces (J Force) who arrived in Hiroshima six month after the Atomic Bomb was dropped. my self I had defects at birth which I could trace back to his direct exposure to radiation which at that time little was known about how mutations could be passed on inter generationally!!
@dankoppel6271
Жыл бұрын
I love listening to Noam Chomsky and I think his comments about the cruelty of war are valid, but I would like to play devil's advocate for a second. First of all, there was extreme cruelty from the Japanese to all the people they conquered: Filipinos, Chinese, Vietnamese, Indonesians, etc. About 10 million Chinese were killed, including 6 million civilians. One Indonesian I talked to said "the Dutch killed us to maintain control, but the Japanese killed us just for fun". In addition, American prisoners of war were brutalized unimaginably, I'm guessing way beyond the converse situation (marching POW's in Bataan being bayonetted if they lagged behind or were decapitated by sword). I think very few of the conquered peoples of southeast Asia probably felt very badly about the 2 bombs dropped on Japan. Second point: even after the 2 bombs and the Russian invasion of Japanese-held Manchuria had taken place, the Japanese cabinet was split 50/50 on whether to surrender or continue fighting. The Emperor had to intervene as tie-breaker. Without the 2 bombs, would the Japanese cabinet have still been split 50/50? I would love to hear the opinion of a WW2 or Japanese history expert on this. The question of the use of the atomic bombs is extremely multi-faceted and the brutality has to be viewed in the context of the extreme brutality of the entire Pacific war, starting in 1937 with the invasion of China by Japan.
@anthonyrocco7793
Жыл бұрын
USA didn’t give a damn about China or other Asian countries lmao. This is typical US/Allies propaganda to justify their atrocity against Japan during WW2. The Tokyo trials speak for themselves. They executed crimes that were committed AFTER WW2. And the crimes only included those against Americans and European Allies lol. This whole “we had to drop atom bomb and firebomb Japanese civilians because of Asian atrocities” is propaganda level BS.
@prismatic_princess
11 ай бұрын
why does that justify killing 100,000+ innocent civilians, giving others cancer, third degree burns, etc.?
@Avi-Hecht
6 жыл бұрын
The highest moment in human technology is the lowest point of human morality...
@nejlaakyuz4025
5 жыл бұрын
J M i support the atomic bombings but ato,ic bombs didnt save 3 billion asians, ita alternative which was a land invasion of the mainland would have killed half a million of us soldiers and millions of japanese though.
@utilitymonster8267
4 жыл бұрын
@J M What makes you think the bombings were necessary? How do you know, and how did they know back then? The fact that the Russians started to attack played a way bigger role; why bombed the US Hiroshima and Nagasaki before they knew that Stalin would also attack Japan? It is very clear to me that it was an experiment because the nuclear weapons had to be tested on civilians, and they didn't really see Japanese people as humans.
@barquerojuancarlos7253
Жыл бұрын
The first American account of the atrocity came from journalist John Hersey's article "Hiroshima" in the New Yorker August 1946. It became a book 2 months later. This depicts the importance of journalism.
@calm-tedesco
6 жыл бұрын
The same public perception in the US of the Japanese and the same reason why Japan surrendered are explained in Oliver Stone's Untold History of the United States. To me it is amazing to what extent propaganda can deform facts and the moral compass of people.
@dnickaroo3574
4 жыл бұрын
@J M Yet more propaganda.
@thurin84
4 ай бұрын
they produced so many purple hearts in anticipation of casualties during the invasion of japan that theyre still awarding them for the global war on terror 80 years later. and something else to think about, the deaths by war had been growing exponentially (especially during the 20th century) annually up until 1945. afterwards they leveled out (more or less) at a fraction of what theyd attained prior to 1945.
@defoperator7993
6 жыл бұрын
This made me cry ...hard
@bennyrodriguez8788
4 жыл бұрын
✋🏽 me too
@januszkowalski5345
6 жыл бұрын
In Hiroshima 12 American POWs kept there perished during the atomic blast. Another collateral damage ?
@jaeger9654
2 жыл бұрын
So you choose 8 milion american dead in case of invasion then?
@Lanooski
Жыл бұрын
Saw Oppenheimer last night and the only scenes worth a damn on this front were where he hallucinates the consequences of his accomplishment, as well as the parts where his colleagues were cheering fanatically as a few exceptions were sobbing or vomiting.
@clockwork914
6 жыл бұрын
Chomsky Forever ❗️
@Halberstramshaberdashery
Жыл бұрын
Chomsky is absolutely correct when he talks about how most Americans at the time felt about Germany as opposed to Japan. There was disdain for the Nazi’s but the hatred for Japan was truly psychopathic and far more visceral. Some of this obviously had to do with the fact that it was Japan who attacked the US at Pearl Harbor but the propaganda campaign against Japan was insane. I’ve spoken to older folks who lived through it and was told that they were shown videos in school of the horrors that Japan had unleashed on the Chinese population in the 1930’s (Chinese babies on bayonet’s, twisted science experiments they would subject the Chinese too, etc. stories of Mass rape, etc.) but clearly the fact the US was attacked by an Asian country by people who looked different and had a very different culture/religion, etc. massively increased the racism and hatred by a largely white Christian population. I’ve even spoken with a couple of men in their 90’s who still hold a grudge even after the massive fire bombing campaign, atomic bombs being dropped and 78 years an essentially incredible relationship between Japan and the US. Crazy.
@Paradox-dy3ve
6 жыл бұрын
What a powerful testimony... It's easy to forget the texture of how the culture takes in history like this
@blues8785
6 жыл бұрын
Pongan subtítulos en castellano , POR FAVOR . Gracias .....
@cihuacoatl1887
4 жыл бұрын
Unos años despues de las bombas atomicas estaban pasando un documental "Hiroshima" en el barrio de cines pornograficos y chomsky fue a verla con su esposa. Mostraba imagenes de japoneses con la piel cayendoseles mientras corrian al rio y el publico del cine se moria a carcajadas.
@lv4077
4 ай бұрын
It’s really unfortunate Chomsky closed his mind to the threat that the Japanese murderous campaigns presented to American forces.I suppose the “Island campaign “ and Japanese atrocities were easy enough for him to ignore.The fact that Japanese losses were in the high 90% were no doubt something Chomsky viewed as an outlier and they would have rolled over when the mainland was invaded and no Allied troops would have been lost.
@thurin84
4 ай бұрын
and heres why the premise that the russians invading manchuria is what really ended the war is utterly absurd. the military clique ruling japan had no intention of ending the war until it had forced the usa to invade so as to inflict so many casualties that the usa would be forced to sign a negotiated peace favorable to japan. so for the premise it was the russians to be true you would have to maintain it was the fear of the russian invasion who had little amphibious experience and little amphibious infrastructure while simultaneously trying to force the worlds premier amphibious operations military (the usa) with the largest amphibious infrastructure literally in human history. utter nonsense.
@clockwork914
6 жыл бұрын
🇺🇸 BERNIE 2020 !!!!! 🇺🇸
@TimmyStabler
Жыл бұрын
I've tried to find information on that August 15 bombing of Japan. Does anyone know what it was called or how I can find information about it?
@SahmAhmad
4 жыл бұрын
He's describing the day America lost its soul and he found his conscience. Horrible tragedy indeed. I can't grasp the pain that the Japanese feel till today.
@SahmAhmad
4 жыл бұрын
@@kenfresno5218 How dare you say that! It's indefensible, immoral and it is the biggest crime against humanity (220,000 people dead in hours) and an entire population sick and genetically condemned forever. But of course, they were just "Japanese" not westerners to be accounted for. Shame and no honnor to everyone who supports that !
@SahmAhmad
4 жыл бұрын
@@kenfresno5218 2 wrongs don't make it right. Instead of stopping the Tokyo bombing they sent the atom bombs ?! What kind of twisted mind is this ? The atomic bombs were a statement to the whole world; basically by doing something so immoral, US army was saying that they have no limits and they could do anything terrorizing the whole humanity and stating new world order. Calling that mercy is a very big FALLACY.
@SahmAhmad
4 жыл бұрын
@@kenfresno5218 Again your evidence is obsolete stating that atomic bomb is the less of two evils (It was never a choice between the two only options). I can see your violent wording going towards a belittling and patronizing position. I don't blame you though It's just the education and environment that made you so I really do have empathy for you.
@SahmAhmad
4 жыл бұрын
@@kenfresno5218 You continue to patronize that's fine. You said it was mercy compared to firebombing which means that's the lesser of two evils self evidently; you don't have to word it as it is you just meant it and I think that's the reason why you commented in the first place. I mean clearly to justify this massacre you pointed out that the Tokyo firebombing, which I happen to be familiar with, are worse and to stop them poor little Truman had to push the button. I mean we could agree to disagree at least but don't give yourself the right to give your opinion as a TRUTH when it's not a unidimensional view based on ONE fact. You can see it from your angle but don't sell it to me If it's not factually accurate and definite. Emotional hysterical anger talking again I know !
@SahmAhmad
4 жыл бұрын
@@kenfresno5218 so many assumptions that are definite and shortcoming when It's my opinion and I didn't Express a disagreement towards your facts. I just don't take them as a morally sufficient grounds to excuse the horrible atomic bombing. You expressed your opinion not me, thus you should provide the evidences backing your view making sure they hold strongly this last. In the end, I don't disagree with you on a factual basis, I just do on a pure moral stand.
@fedimhamdi1110
6 жыл бұрын
مبدع كالعادة
@Leftistattheparty
6 жыл бұрын
Like a Jedi master experiencing loss
@nobodyanon7893
3 жыл бұрын
❤️🇵🇹❤️
@rbrb5275
Жыл бұрын
Amerikkka
@thurin84
4 ай бұрын
demokkkratic party.
@tomford5416
6 жыл бұрын
chomsky just sold me out
@thurin84
4 ай бұрын
when the whole revisionist thing started up in the 1980s i asked a friend and mentor his opinion on the matter. he was an AA gunner on an LST (landing ship, tank. a juicy target during an invasion) on okinawa making preperations for the invasion of japan in november. i felt his opinion would be particularly poignant since his life directly was one of those possibly saved by the bomb. he said; "i fell down and wept like a baby, because now i knew i would survive the war and get to go home and make love to my beautiful wife again!" could you say to his face that his life was worth sacrificing for some perceived moral superiority?
@fondrees
4 ай бұрын
Such a clown. I always wondered why the Japanese continued to fight long past any chance of winning. I finally got my answer. The Japanese were literally weeks away from deploying their own nuclear bombs on us. They tested one of the Korean peninsula a month after they surrendered. Had we waited or not developed one at all. We would be speaking Japanese right now.
@solaria5513
2 ай бұрын
Troll
@dragunov815
Жыл бұрын
What a disgrace.
@legendofe3031
6 жыл бұрын
I think Chomsky is wrong when he says the Germans were treated with more respect. Eisenhower hated the Germans and killed as many as 1million prisoners of war in concentration camps. More Germans died in Eisenhower’s camps than they did fighting the US army. Also the fire bombing of Germans cities of no military significance: Dresden and Hamburg. Not to mention the two million German women gang-raped by the Soviet army as it marched to Berlin. Some of the greatest atrocities of world war 2 were committed by England and the US against Germany!
@impalabeeper
6 жыл бұрын
Legend of E30 You already lost all credibility as soon as you mentioned "1 million prisoner of war died".
@andrewtaylor9799
6 жыл бұрын
I was in Vienna in the 1990s and an older man approached me on a streetcar and asked if I was an American. I said yes. He said he had been a POW in a prison camp in North Carolina, USA during WW II. He thanked me gratefully for the treatment he received.
@edkrstic6423
6 жыл бұрын
What the hell are you talking about?
@dnickaroo3574
4 жыл бұрын
That story about Eisenhower is NOT true -- another myth repeated over & over.
@paintedhorse6880
2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewtaylor9799 My great grandfather was a soldier stationed in Germany after the war. He said the US Army treated German civilians awfully during the post war occupation. He told us he was absolutely embarassed by his and every other soldier behavior.
@nebojsagalic4246
6 жыл бұрын
Sometimes there are no good choices. What could they have done? The "finale" was horiffic, sure, but the nuclear bombings are debatable to say the least. The Japanese empire was killing masses of civilians, and it had to be stopped. So what was to be done? Invading the Chinese mainland to break the Japanese directly would have created plenty of civilian casualties as well, just like the Soviet invasion did. Blockading the mainland to starve it of resources would also have caused a famine, and aleady was causing a famine if I remember correctly.
@dnickaroo3574
4 жыл бұрын
The US had bombed Japan's Oil Refineries. Japan would have had no fuel within 3 weeks. Dropping the Nuclear Bombs were experimental tests -- there was no military need.
@jaeger9654
2 жыл бұрын
@@dnickaroo3574 they create synthetic oil
@anthonyrocco7793
Жыл бұрын
Lmao, stop pretending like USA was trying to “save” China from Japan 😂. The Tokyo trials tells you everything you have to know. The criminals that were executed were done for the crimes they committed AFTER Pearl Harbor lol. And they executed the crimes against Americans and European allies. That tells you everything you have to know about how much USA “cared” about Asian countries lol.
@LordyByron
6 жыл бұрын
Chomsky's talks are powerful when he is sure of the facts, but he only speculates in this one and thus only muddies the waters where truth might be found.
@robb7398
6 жыл бұрын
That's great he was at summer camp. My father was 19 and was on a minesweeper in the Pacific and would have been in the invasion of Japan. Instead of the invasion, which would have lasted a year, killed over a million people and maimed countless more, my father went home. I don't merely wish to put it on a personal basis. But it's hard to imagine today a world war that had lasted from 1939 to 1945, against enemies that had been committing horrors since the early 1930s. Now imagine having the chance to end it. And rather than ending it, carrying it on for another year or more, sacrificing millions of American lives to do it, while reducing the entire country of Japan to rubble. It makes no sense.
@davidhuygens2601
6 жыл бұрын
Germany and Italy had already surrendered so probably not a good idea to keep dropping bombs on them
@robb7398
6 жыл бұрын
Halonics, your revisionist history is not compelling me to change my mind. The facts are well known to anyone who has studied history. www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1946/12/if-the-atomic-bomb-had-not-been-used/376238/
@robb7398
6 жыл бұрын
I like Chomsky, but in this case I don't think he seems especially expert on the subject which is one problem I have with his rambling answer.
@twistedbydsign99
4 жыл бұрын
So then the ends justify the means?
@paintedhorse6880
2 жыл бұрын
@@twistedbydsign99 To Jingoists it always does.
@PM-im8nq
2 жыл бұрын
AND WE WILL DO IT AGAIN!!!!!!!!
@AR-vd4wo
2 жыл бұрын
America deserved revenge for Pearl Harbor and Japan deserved to be punished.
@patrickmctoal
2 жыл бұрын
Inhuman … truly.
@sixmillionsilencedaccounts3517
Жыл бұрын
So you think the US didn't expect Pearl Harbor? Hahaha.... Pearl Harbor happened AFTER the US put sanctions (which is a form of warfare) on Japanese oil, blocking 90% of their supply. Basically US asked for attack, Japan had no choice.
@epicphailure88
Жыл бұрын
They knew about Pearl Harbor and 9/11 before it happened.
@anthonyrocco7793
Жыл бұрын
Lmao, so killing millions of civilians (which the US military had to lie as they said they were bombing military bases lmao) is equivalent to an attack against the blockade of Oil (ABCD line) lol. This is a typical US apologist answer lol.
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