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@dianaalyssa8726
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the hard work testing!
@luminatrixfanfiction
3 ай бұрын
From what I gathered from this video; Noctua did some impressive engineering again. But I can already tell that they have reached the edge of the limits of air cooling technology. To be frank, as impressive as this is, it's over engineered for the tangible results gained which is a five degree cooler than the original model. Noctua has to start considering new types of cooling methodology in the future, unless CPU's start running cooler at lower nm process in which case, ignore all of the above.
@thatsgottahurt
3 ай бұрын
Please do another run of the RGB GPU GLITCH shirts.
@Napster60
3 ай бұрын
Great work by your team and the testing. Sadly.. i think this is going to start the path to the end of Noctua.. They have become so obsessed with perfection and micro details that they are losing performance where it matters. At a cost that is so unbelievably out of touch for the times and for the majority of customers. and no.. I don't think they are over charging.. Its just so overly engineered that its not affordable for them either.. im sorry but using exotic materials on a PC fan.. Its just a fan. No.. Even compared to their own previous offering they are WAY off what this is worth. Sad to watch. I will NOT be buying this cooler for my next build.. Or for the build of friends and family. Out of touch and overly engineered to death.
@Jay_the_Caffeinator
3 ай бұрын
I never thought of purchasing items from Tech Tuber. However, Steve has done the research and engineering studies that I have about computer hardware. Therefore, I have purchased many GN items. Thanks, Steve.
@thisiswhywecanthavenicethi8965
3 ай бұрын
You can hear it in Steve's voice in the intro how excited he is to use all the testing equipment on the new Noctua. "THIS IS WHY I BUILT MY TESTING TEMPLE" ~Steve (Probably)
@GamersNexus
3 ай бұрын
Just excited to use all this stuff every day! I love this kind of work.
@fredfinks
3 ай бұрын
@@GamersNexus Hi Steve, currently watching, PLEASE tell me you tested with a contact frame! Wouldnt you agree that a $5 contact frame is a good idea to replace the ILM which induces permanent curvature to the CPU?
@Walczyk
3 ай бұрын
@@GamersNexusit’s awesome and truly valuable work, but I really appreciate hearing your personal opinions and wisdom at the end
@quanahruiz5734
3 ай бұрын
BEHOLD, MY STUFF! -metrology nerd
@spyker_aileron
3 ай бұрын
@GamersNexus whatever happened to the fan testing machine?
@UnknownUser-fg3fs
3 ай бұрын
Now wait 4 years for a chromax black. Revolutionary.
@satokotsu
3 ай бұрын
that’s too ambitious, give it 6-7 years at the minimum
@iamrubinot42
3 ай бұрын
I really wish they released a chromax black g2 along with the brown one.
@Vipersrule
3 ай бұрын
@@iamrubinot42IIRC correctly it’s because of the type of plastic they used. Black is different material and it wasn’t up to their standards (yet).
@NiDaElke
3 ай бұрын
chromac black will come out 1Q next year
@strohmy9863
3 ай бұрын
@@Vipersrule Yes, because it's not just as easy as coloring plastic differently. Different dyes change the plastics properties. And when you want to release a product that's optimized for performance, changing the color would not give the same results as the brown/beige versions.
@kevinroosa1315
3 ай бұрын
Time for Thermalright to make the Peerless-er Assassin.
@GamersNexus
3 ай бұрын
Peerless-er Assassin-er?
@megadeth8592
3 ай бұрын
they have a 140mm version coming at some point LOL
@Happiness-lp9fw
3 ай бұрын
Stop it with the hard -er
@petaaa5419
3 ай бұрын
They haven't tested the phantom spirit which has one more heat pipe and "different" fans from other reviews it's around 2-3 degrees better then the peerless assassin so it's close the the new gen noctua, please GN would love a review on it especially noise tests!
@goofy851
3 ай бұрын
To be honest the Peerless Assassin still wins on account of normal price and not having the color palette of a toilet paper.
@Real_MisterSir
3 ай бұрын
The fact that the Peerless Assassin can get within marginal degrees of temp difference, while keeping equal (or lower) noise levels on a 120mm fan setup vs Noctua's 140mm setup, and then do that at basically 5x lower cost... Noctua is doing some great stuff, but honestly the best thing they're doing, is free marketing for Thermalright lol.
@Khaled-bs7zc
3 ай бұрын
Then there's the Thermalright phantom spirit evo which clearly beats the peerless assassin at the same price. It'd have matched or beat this cooler too if GN had tested it. If someone wants a new cooler they should get the PS EVO or wait for the Royal Preytor Ultra.
@johnnypopstar
3 ай бұрын
_But then_ how will the cheaper one be doing in ~8 years time? My 2015 NH-D15 didn't get more than a handful of days time off until I replaced that machine entirely 6 months ago, and those fans just kept on silently spinnin'.
@_RIL_
3 ай бұрын
@@johnnypopstar Do air coolers really detoeriorate like that to need to be replaced? At wost you just replace the fans, and it would still costs less in total than one of these Noctuas.
@Real_MisterSir
3 ай бұрын
@@johnnypopstar Most air coolers will work just fine for that long, and by the 10 year mark there's likely gonna be fair improvements to the available coolers on the market if you wanna upgrade. I haven't had any air cooler perform much worse over time, at worst a fan dies (which is still very rare) so you just get a spare one for 10 bucks. The entire selling point of air coolers in general is how bulletproof they are in general, not just Noctua.
@johnnypopstar
3 ай бұрын
@@_RIL_ sure, but also, CBA constantly replacing fans or checking for noise. To my lazy ass it's worth the extra for the peace of mind aspect
@BjørjaBear
3 ай бұрын
I still have a Noctua NH-U9F, bought in 2008. Fan is still going strong, and Noctua providing me with a kit to fit it to an AM4 motherboard. Excellent customer service.
@BlackZiploc_
2 ай бұрын
Ayyy another U9 user! I've been using mine with a 5900x and payers to squeeze life out of the cooler until I find something worse changing to
@SalemTechsperts
3 ай бұрын
I come here to see clean coolers to help heal my trauma. Thank you for your service.
@RQM98
3 ай бұрын
Is this like eye bleach for you 😂
@tailsorange2872
3 ай бұрын
"The greatest Technician that has ever lived.........................."
@snxc1627
3 ай бұрын
This is a 37 minute therapy session for the greatest technician that ever lived
@MandoArtsudios
3 ай бұрын
Back to cleaning swamp gouce raccoon boy
@the_shameless
3 ай бұрын
I wonder if he can fit his tiny raccoon like fingers between those beautiful pipes
@Aluavin
3 ай бұрын
"We are not here for the basics" GN in a Nutshell
@theduck17
3 ай бұрын
vs. LTT who will mount it on the wrong CPU, complain that it didn't work right, auction off the prototype and then find a way to hide sexual harassment and assault on an employee who had to self-harm herself to get a day off.
@fredocuomo5386
3 ай бұрын
@theduck17 and then investigate themselves and find they did nothing wrong
@esaedvik
3 ай бұрын
"We have trouble screwing in stuff" xD
@sammiller6631
3 ай бұрын
@@fredocuomo5386 Did LTT actually investigate themselves? Or did they just say that to get gamers to shut up?
@fredocuomo5386
3 ай бұрын
@sammiller6631 they hired a third party investigator thats ultimately beholden to whoever is paying them
@andyderp6473
3 ай бұрын
Wake up samurai, the Noctua NH-D15 G2 review is real.
@ts757arse
3 ай бұрын
FINALLY. I buggered up my latest AIO install and it's held together with a self tapping screw. I've been waiting for this so, when it spills its guts, I can ruin and bodge another expensive cooler. It's what you get for assembling with an impact driver. (in all seriousness, I keep AIOs running until they are nearly totally out of liquid... It'll survive).
@albertcamus6611
3 ай бұрын
@@ts757arse looks like you need a self-sealing stem bolt
@ts757arse
3 ай бұрын
@@albertcamus6611 I am sure I know a chap with some big ears who has a few "spare".
@albertcamus6611
3 ай бұрын
@@ts757arse Oh, but they warned us about them at the academy! buyer beware
@tkermi
3 ай бұрын
I'm still not convinced. Will wait until tomorrow and to see if video is still up or if this was just but a dream
@moevor
3 ай бұрын
Geez man, I don't know if people can really appreciate the depth of testing expertise displayed in this video. 9 passes for a single mount?! 13 dBA noise floor?! 3 different cold plates, fan swaps, two test benches. Easily over $100K in time and equipment. Well done guys. I bet Noctua are pleased to have their best tested by the best.
@rob.ale90
2 ай бұрын
Yes, but check it out what's most replayed section :))
@RefrigeratedTP
2 ай бұрын
@@rob.ale90 well yeah it's a 36 minute long video. That's what's going to happen
@Ladco77
3 ай бұрын
I'm still running an NH-D15 after who knows how many years. The quality and longevity of the brand are prime reasons I'd buy Noctua again for this class of air cooler.
@vasiovasio
2 ай бұрын
Yes, Noctua is a High Class! ❤❤❤
@hikareti9503
2 ай бұрын
Same here, I've moved mine between 3 builds so far. If it ain't broke...
@Mystiq6
2 ай бұрын
I bought my NH-D15 for an AMD FX-8350 to try to squeeze some extra life out of it. I'm still using it with a Ryzen 5900X. Oof. But hey, it still works!
@Memsandro
2 ай бұрын
@@vasiovasio pft. Found the Patrician.
@Leopardipzg
2 ай бұрын
or just get a cheaper cooler and pair it with the Noctua fans, you get the best from both worlds
@alistairblaire6001
3 ай бұрын
Less than 1mm between the edge of the fan and the frame is wild.
@Petr75661
3 ай бұрын
NH-D15 G3 will have 0 clearance with self-ablation
@krisc1684
3 ай бұрын
@@Petr75661ha!
@conorstewart2214
3 ай бұрын
@@Petr75661 honestly it wouldn’t be that awful of an idea, you would just need to settle on running it at a certain speed (because dimensions change based on speed) and let it wear in. I wonder if anyone will switch to metal or composite fans at some point for even higher stiffness and therefore lower gap.
@mattmanyam
2 ай бұрын
@Petr75661 Just send your G2 to Line2Line coatings and get it NOW!
@arthurcuesta6041
2 ай бұрын
A little dust build up and you'll start hearing an annoying noise
@VolcanRage
3 ай бұрын
Can't wait for the G3 in 20 years!
@GamersNexus
3 ай бұрын
The year is 2044. Steve exits retirement for one last review.
@DELTA9XTC
3 ай бұрын
wait, how old is Steve? 20 years in retirement? I would have believed mid 30, if he told me. Even with the few gray hairs, some ppl get grey hairs early.
@aurunemaru
3 ай бұрын
and the "Thanks Steve" comment will reappear
@darknessblades
3 ай бұрын
@@GamersNexus Same for Linus, he returns for 1 final tech drop.
@gretchman
3 ай бұрын
@@GamersNexus **a figure clothed only in holograms flys out of the forest on his downhill hover bike. He brushes his long white hair out of his face** “today we’re reviewing…”
@reyalPRON
3 ай бұрын
can always count on steve and the team to give me deep dives into products that does not leave me searching for more information after i watched their tests. gg boyos, ur format kick ass!
@vdvd2090
3 ай бұрын
as long as peerless assassin exists, there is no reason to buy from noctua
@yackemup
3 ай бұрын
Already saved this video knowing I might need this in 10 years
@Kadotus
3 ай бұрын
I am curious whether the original fans on my NH-D15, which I have been using daily for the past 10 years, will need replacing when the G3 version comes out, or if they will hold up until the G4 or even G5 models...
@Bound4Earth
21 күн бұрын
@@Kadotus My original case fans bought in 2009 are still going strong. Although I am tempted by the newer fan line up. Might upgrade if the 10k CPU from AMD is not trashed like the 9k series right now.
@TerrasClip
3 ай бұрын
Expensive testing that we get to see for free, thanks Steve and Gamers Nexus
@rodmunch69
3 ай бұрын
I'm still running my Noctua NH-D14 I bought in June of 2012 - and have no desire to upgrade at this point. $88 for a fan in 2012 seemed insane, but Noctua continues to support their older fans by selling adapter plates each time a new CPU is introduced, and currently I'm running an AMD 5900X and it has no issues keeping it cool. I'll probably upgrade that to the next AMD chip that comes out, and I bet you this fan will continue to work just fine for another 12 years.
@Krongorka
3 ай бұрын
Basically same experience here with NH-D14. "Side-graded" it to NH-U12A last month, though. It performs about ~7c better on 5800X at full load. Fans are a bit louder on it, but it's also more impressive because it's a single tower cooler and there's zero issues with any kind of RAM.
@ReZel80657
3 ай бұрын
The fans are the spinning part with the motor and what you are talking is the tower cooler not the fans you clip on it, the fans and the cooler are not the same thing
@bobbins53
3 ай бұрын
Similar experience with mine that I got in 2010, it still works great in my home server and was in my gaming PC until I went with a AIO in 2019.
@ThrashingBasskill
3 ай бұрын
Same old story with my Thermalright Macho. It just does what it has to do, quietly and efficiently. (And I think it was around 50 bucks 11 years ago...)
@nadtz
3 ай бұрын
I have a NH-D14 and NH-U9 that are about that old and recently the U9SP3. The fact that I could contact Noctua for mounting kit upgrades over the years has been a nice plus.
@JJFX-
3 ай бұрын
Seems a bit strange not to include AM5 test data at this point, especially since you even updated Intel's thermal results to the 14900K. Not a huge deal but considering the notable IHS changes and that more people will move to AM5 going forward, it would be nice to see. Overall it's nice to see Noctua back on top and including decent accessories for that price tag. I am a bit disappointed the new 140mm we've been waiting for is still limited up to 1500 RPM, even now that they've shifted to LCP. I'm hoping we at least get a version capable of ~1800 or so, since I assume the bearings can handle that. At this price, integrating a speed switch like their competitors would be a nice touch for those with a need to max out performance at the cost of noise.
@NCSGeek
3 ай бұрын
I'm very interested in the development of air coolers because i don't think I'll ever use a liquid cooler due to the maintenance and points if failure. Thanks a ton for this coverage!
@ChairmanMeow1
3 ай бұрын
I dont think it's honestly possible to convince me its $115 better than a peerless assassin. I definitely prefer air coolers to AIOs in general though. Pump noise I find super aggravating for whatever reason, and they have many more points of failure.
@TheHighborn
3 ай бұрын
Some people just don't mind paying a lot more for marginally better perf, even if they don't want to go water. I personally went on full custom, but if i were not, i'd probably think about upgrading to this. (My previous air cooler was a dark rock pro4)
@ChairmanMeow1
3 ай бұрын
@@TheHighborn Oh I have no issues with people buying Noctua stuff. I get the draw. Im also biased as I have a PA. The hill I'll die on though is that air coolers suffice for 90% of builds. Only thing Id use an AIO on is 13/14th gen Intel and I'd never buy that in the first place. :D
@panzer3279
3 ай бұрын
Agree with you. Also, if the fans fail on your PA, you can buy better fans like Phanteks T30 and get even better performance. For my current system (13700k), I'm using an AIO. I cannot understand who will buy this D15 G2.
@spell105
3 ай бұрын
I'm happy and probably will continue to be happy with my Noctua NH-D15
@truckwrecker6822
3 ай бұрын
@@spell105I 'm happy and probably will continue to be happy with my Noctua NH-D14😀
@dephcon
3 ай бұрын
I was tickled by that Snoop bit
@rsoldscape
2 ай бұрын
JROC baby
@latinlowrider59
3 ай бұрын
5:41 Steve beat the urge to say "WOO WOO" lol
@TechOverwrite
3 ай бұрын
I'd pay to watch this as a short to be honest 😅
@michaelrivera4299
3 ай бұрын
Awesome, being with my d15 so long I recognize wich sound was which blind test
@N4CR
2 ай бұрын
And like me did you prefer the OG sound to the G2 lol?
@michaelrivera4299
2 ай бұрын
@@N4CR yessssssssssssss, that's the crazy part. I'm used to that warm hummmmm
@dinospumoni8255
3 ай бұрын
Great review, but I would never spend this much on an air cooler. I'm just waiting on Thermalright's PA 140 or their Royal Pretor to release before upgrading my CPU cooler.
@scherge
3 ай бұрын
Two super flat steel surfaces touching one another can cold weld together when left too long in that state. That happened to me with some parallel gauge blocks. Adhesive power is strong. Don't know if anyone saw the commercial from the 90's in which two tractor puller weren't able to pull apart two huge blocks of steel because of glue or some shit. That wasn't a trick. They actually did that, but it only worked because there wasn't any glue between the two super polished sides of the blocks, only pure adhesive power. That was my contribution of useless knowledge for the day. Have a good one ^^
@TheTastefulThickness
3 ай бұрын
These are not gauge blocks, bro.
@Its-Just-Zip
3 ай бұрын
So what you're saying here is, if I polished my CPU and this cooler enough, and I had them lapped nearly flat, I could potentially get rid of the need for thermal interface material entirely.
@@Its-Just-Zip Probably. Gauge blocks can be "wrung" together where they basically act as one piece down the the atomic level.
@VADemon
3 ай бұрын
@@Its-Just-Zip What he's also saying is that you lose the AM4/AM5 advantage. You will be upgrading the CPU along with the cooler 😂
@juancuelloespinosa
3 ай бұрын
28:06 I love how you guys skip applying thermal paste, just to avoid the flamewar 😆 at the same time though, it'd be good for the algo
@GamersNexus
3 ай бұрын
Secretly, it is also to save on wasting paste!
@boatrat
3 ай бұрын
@@GamersNexus "Millions for Noise-testing, but not one Penny for Paste"!
@Fay7666
3 ай бұрын
Do what Action Retro does and just blur it like if it were japanese erotica.
@juancuelloespinosa
3 ай бұрын
@@Fay7666 there's a youtube channel called tronicsfix that has some fun with it. the host (i think his name is steve, no relation to this steve) always says "time to apply the PERFECT amount of thermal paste" and plays angelic chorus on it
@juancuelloespinosa
3 ай бұрын
@@Fay7666 there's a youtube channel, tronicsfix, that has some fun with it the host, I believe his name's steve (seems like there's quite a few of those in this industry) says "time to apply the PERFECT amount of thermal paste" and will play an angelic chorus for it
@ThatBrownFella
3 ай бұрын
"...It's hard being Steve D O double G; but I, somehow, someway..."
@PanderingSlats
3 ай бұрын
With so much drama over LBC It's kinda hard bein' S to the E-V-E But I Somehow someway Keep turnin' out standardized tests like every single day Could you kick a lil somethin' for the GN Store now'at we test in a sound proof, 250k booth an' the channel still jumpin' cuz Snowflake izzat home I got coolers with the washer mod mountin' 'em on, yet They get jenky so we want a update So what you wanna do? Bet Noctua pocket full of SKU's to make the cold plate fit you So give up the lights, embrace the tan But (But what?) you don't love them fans Yeahhhhhh... But we gon' drop a lot on this G up, N down while you liquid simps shrug at us ROLLIN' DOWN THE STREET, REPPIN' BROWN FANS D15 G AND 2 laaaaiiiid baaaaaack GOT NO MIND FOR MY MONEY CUZ NOCTUA ON MY MIND ROLLIN' DOWN THE STREET, REPPIN' BROWN FANS D15 G AND 2 laaaaiiiid baaaaaack GOT NO MIND FOR MY MONEY CUZ NOCTUA ON MY MIND
@HerosAndZeros
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for that! 😂
@QuickyBabyTV
2 ай бұрын
God tier review, honestly the G2 is disappointing, I'll be looking at the arctic freezer III as best bang for buck and performance at a decent audio level. Thanks gamersnexus for being some unapologetically epic content and review procedure.
@pasi123567
3 ай бұрын
For me fan noise is really important and I have to say the old D15 definitely sounds much more pleasing, so not sure if I would ever get the new one.
@el1f0
3 ай бұрын
I would really appreciate you checking out the Phantom Spirit 120. It's essentially an upgraded peerless assasin but for a very similar price.
@bocahdongo7769
3 ай бұрын
@@el1f0 or any their 140mm that clearly better than PS120
@BlackSmokeDMax
3 ай бұрын
Don't think I've ever mentioned it, but I sure have meant to.... That sound chamber looks really good with your colors on the sound absorbing tiles/peak/mountains/whateverthehellthey are called!
@GamersNexus
3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@komnishura
3 ай бұрын
This will possibly be family heirloom.
@c99kfm
3 ай бұрын
"Your father's CPU cooler. This is the weapon of a true tech nerd. Not as clumsy or random as an AIO. An elegant weapon, for a more... civilized age."
@smilingbandit6900
3 ай бұрын
@@c99kfm and we will look like old farts with grey/no hair^^
@wojtek-33
3 ай бұрын
Definitely a mantle show piece
@ricequackers
3 ай бұрын
"You never actually own a Noctua. You merely look after it for the next generation."
@chanm01
3 ай бұрын
I know this review isn't about the price of the G2, but at $150 for an AIR COOLER, it's hard to talk about anything else. Yes, it's Noctua so you know it'll be well made, but at $150 you could buy 2 of the cheap 360 AIOs from the last video, a 12-pack, and have money left over. Noctua is out of their damn minds.
@clintonleonard5187
23 күн бұрын
From the thumbnail I thought you got a special gold version. And I just realized how cool gold colored heatsinks would look on your cpu/gpu.
@mengas
3 ай бұрын
get peerless assassin and put that extra 120 onto a bettter cpu
@Khaled-bs7zc
3 ай бұрын
No get a Phantom Spirit SE/EVO or wait for the Royal Preytor Ultra which is also $45.
@alexmills1329
3 ай бұрын
Seriously, that’s enough difference to go from a 7600x to a 7800x3d most of the time.
@NGreedia
3 ай бұрын
@@Khaled-bs7zcps120 evo is the best performing and looking cooler that doesn’t cost an arm and a leg. Thermalrights next gen coolers will up the ante even more. Can’t wait for the white royal knight 120
@frankytanky5076
3 ай бұрын
100 percent. That's so much money, you can jump up a pretty significant amount in cpu for that, and the 7800 x3d can run with a 30 dollar single tower cooler anyway.
@KaoticReaver
3 ай бұрын
As a guy from Southern California, I appreciate the multiple mentioning of the LBC my G. Stay up Steve
@stjepanjina
3 ай бұрын
Very happy with my Thermalright Assasin 120 Se for 3x less price
@volvo09
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I couldn't justify this price for an air cooler.
@masterluckyluke
3 ай бұрын
Noctua may make good coolers, but their prices are a bad joke. 80 to 100 Euros would have been high but acceptable. But 150 ist just laughable.
@chorps88
3 ай бұрын
Thanks Steve. I'm torn on whether to change my drinking game from "Hemi Anechoic Chamber" to "Laser Scanner."
@BeefIngot
3 ай бұрын
I think laser scanner would get you there faster. You can see him glowing everytime they use it.
@Derkiboi
3 ай бұрын
'why not both'
@Erksah02
3 ай бұрын
7:40 damn steve
@GamersNexus
3 ай бұрын
bars
@Troynex
3 ай бұрын
@@GamersNexusi want to buy a new pc with ryzen 7800x3d and rtx 4080S. Should i pick the old nh-d15 or the new g2?
@esotericjahanism5251
3 ай бұрын
@@Troynex Get what you want they both will cool it incredibly well and be quiet. The G2 will be a bit better though
@Erksah02
3 ай бұрын
@@GamersNexusSteve /GN team, how hard would it be to implement a short noise sample for each of your noise tests. I personally would prefer having the option to compare the way something sounds.
@00wheelie00
3 ай бұрын
@@Troynex When you spend that much money on your PC, are you really going to go for less than the best air cooler over less than $50?
@mrcrunch8000
3 ай бұрын
Maybe I missed it but I am surprised the new fans weren't put on the old cooler since the old fans got put on the new cooler. It showed a decline in performance that virtually matched the og cooler. It almost paints a picture that the cooler change didn't make much of a difference and that the fans provided the majority of the cooling improvement. If you own the og do you get the same or at least very similar performance just by buying the new fans and potentially saving a decent chunk of change?
@Morpheus-pt3wq
3 ай бұрын
That´s assuming we get the chance. The only 1500rpm replacement for old-gen A15 in existence is Chromax A15, because standard standalone A15 fan is only 1200rpm...
@mrcrunch8000
3 ай бұрын
@@Morpheus-pt3wq It certainly seems like a sneaky tactic that I wouldn't put past Noctua. They do love to find ways to make the most basic things as expensive as possible. There seems to be more markup on the cooler package than just their fans so why not make people think they need the entire thing for better performance.
@Chopper153
3 ай бұрын
The only things that are different in G2 are 8 heat pipes and higher fin density. Essentially the same thing which companies like Thermalright and Deepcool have been doing for years now. I'm sure Thermalright will make a 140 mm dual tower cooler which will match G2 for a fraction of the price. And in a few years, they'll introduce vapour chamber coolers which make G2 fully obsolete.
@mrcrunch8000
3 ай бұрын
@@Chopper153 Yes, that will and always has happened. As far as changes, they aren't exactly minor. There's only so many parts and every one of them has been altered in some way. The question is does it matter? Noctua states those changes don't really start to show benefit until 250 watts is exceeded. That wasn't really tested and neither was new fan on old cooler. Ignoring Noctua being crooks, we really didn't learn how true the claim from Noctua is. Given how thorough GN normally is I would have thought that test with the old fans would have raised some questions. I would imagine all the extra mass the G2 has would make a difference under high wattage loads but it didn't seem to make a difference when fans were the same for both.
@conorstewart2214
3 ай бұрын
It could just be that all heat loads tested didn’t output enough heat to make the differences really show. It would be good to see if Steve can test noctua’s own claims which are tested not using CPUs but heaters. Noctua claim that the original NH-D15 can hold a 460 W heat load at 60 C whilst the new version can handle 620 W. You won’t get near that with CPUs because of how the heat is distributed though. Steve can only test it on current CPUs where the difference just might not be that high and it puts a cap on how high he can set the heat load. Obviously Steve’s testing is real world testing with components that people will actually use, not just heaters, so his testing will be more valuable for most people. What will be interesting to see is how the new version holds up as CPUs use more and more power. What makes you think that noctua are crooks or are being shady?
@T80s
3 ай бұрын
Considering the price of this Noctua I think I'll wait for the vapor chamber air coolers from other companies if they are even better at similar noise levels.
@nrgia
3 ай бұрын
So, to summarize. Same performance as Pearless Assassin for 5 times the price. Bargain. Only for Noctua fan boys and girls. Nothing to see here. Move along
@hypercake9360
3 ай бұрын
Been absolutely loving the new testing methodology from you guys!
@Elc22
3 ай бұрын
When you can get 4 Thermalright equivalent coolers for the same amount of money... No, Noctua, as much as you technically hold the crown for best air cooler, the eye-watering MSRP is a joke. This comes from someone that owns and used an OG NH-D15. Noctuas are nice, but the price is very hard to justify, as it's now what I love to use as a prime example of diminishing returns.
@Vtarngpb
3 ай бұрын
Yes Steve, we’re getting old 😉
@GamersNexus
3 ай бұрын
Not if AI can help it!
@Vtarngpb
3 ай бұрын
@@GamersNexusI think we just cracked Jensen’s latest business strategy: Sell more GPU’s to support machine learning, to keep people living longer, to generate more demand for GPU’s. How did no one figure this out sooner 🤦♂️
@sidewinder86ify
3 ай бұрын
@@GamersNexus haha
@upgrade1373
3 ай бұрын
I've been inside one of those chambers and it is so freaky quiet.
@Hezzadude12
3 ай бұрын
How come the charts say it is 43.8dba on AMD at 100% fan speed but only 35.3dba for Intel at 100% fan speed? That’s quite a discrepancy, right?
@Niyazi-01
3 ай бұрын
There is no justification for that price period. You can buy 4 Peerless Assassin with that money. Even if each of them fails in 2-3 years its still a win. But I don't think PA will fail in at least 5 years. Or you can go liquid which is miles ahead of Noctua at that price point. Only thing that would counter this logic is hoping that they would provide mounting kits for upcoming platforms for 10 years. But don't buy tomorrow's technology today. And never trust a corporation's promise. You never know what will happen in future. Maybe the variation you buy today (HBC-LBC-STD) won't be effective on new CPUs' ihs tomorrow.
@Chopper153
3 ай бұрын
Noctua is like Apple, very good at marketing and also good in engineering. You'll find several fanboys behaving like cultists in this very comment section.
@KeepTrucking-fb3lb
3 ай бұрын
@@Chopper153 Hello! :D
@justsomepandawithinternet
3 ай бұрын
Cmon Thermalright bout time you release your royal preytor ultra (sick name)
@ebrahimsalman2152
3 ай бұрын
Missing thermalright phantom spirit and phantom spirit evo. Cannot wait for thier next cooler (Royale preytor ultra) for only 45$
@swordfan1330
3 ай бұрын
Agreed, I want to see it against the FC140, FS140 & PS120 EVO
@riccardobrandolini2545
3 ай бұрын
The phantom spirit evo is really a monster, those fans are crazy good for that price
@nuclearpcs2139
3 ай бұрын
Also remember the frost commander 😀
@uponeric36
3 ай бұрын
I'm almost certain thermalright will surpass Noctua's performance before Noctua's next air cooler, and they'll do it for at least half the price.
@jonjones9917
2 ай бұрын
@@uponeric36 thermalright made a cooler when I built my first pc in 2014 it was the Silver Arrow, it was basically a NH-D15 and it came with blue fan shrouds with grey blades. I thought it looked better personally, I have no idea why they didn't become more mainstream way back then. (edit - the fan shrouds might of been grey with blue blades it's been awhile)
@deadpin
3 ай бұрын
There's going to be a non-zero chance that through assembly line snafu, or otherwise (like restocking), that HBC coolers will be mixed up with LBC coolers. Good luck everyone!
@MegaZakks
3 ай бұрын
So for 99.99% of people just buy a peerless assassin if you are air cooling. Got it. Thermalright engineers being able to create a cooler that basically hangs right there with noctua for pennies on the dollar is pretty wild.
@5n00w
2 ай бұрын
Easy to do if their R&D is basically "copy that good shit!". I'd rather pay a honest price for a well designed product from a company that has a proven track record of excellence in customer support.
@OneDollaBill
3 ай бұрын
You guys didnt test the Thermalrights phantom spirit or do i remember wrong?🤔
@jeremyg2236
3 ай бұрын
they don't have any of Phantom Spirit, they only have Peerless Assassin(s)
@Khaled-bs7zc
3 ай бұрын
A really bad miss on their part given that the PS easily beats the PA at the same price point and has been out for a while. Not having it in this review is misleading for potential buyers.
@dr.mortal2894
3 ай бұрын
Thx for your tests. Today i got my GN, AM5 and Intel 1700 Case Batches. I like that. they looks really good and they are so massive and really good quality. Greetings from Germany 😇
@GamersNexus
3 ай бұрын
That's awesome! Thank you so much for buying them!
@dr.mortal2894
3 ай бұрын
@@GamersNexus No problem 😇
@mymemeplex
3 ай бұрын
Shoutout SPCR crew. At least with Noctua, you're not just buying the name, you're actually also buying the support, quality and performance. Unlike some fruitbased hardware.
@Hjorth87
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I really miss SPCR
@grillinman84
3 ай бұрын
Steve being able to show off so many GN toys in 1 video obviously makes him happy. The growth of this channel is astounding and well deserved.
@PhoticSneezeOne
3 ай бұрын
3x the price of a Peerless Assassin or 5x of the Assassin SE ? NO-ctua i am sorry
@RedcubeX24
3 ай бұрын
I honestly expected a bit more from noctua, after that much time.
@Bound4Earth
21 күн бұрын
I think the fans took the longest to get right. Once they figure out the 120mm they had issues with the material on the 140mm. Getting a gap that tiny isn't easy without adding a ring.
@RedcubeX24
21 күн бұрын
@@Bound4Earth absolutely, yet the Performance gap to i.e. thermalright who Just pumps out products left and right (many of them arent great, fair), just isnt that big. Just think about how long noctua took. I appreciate what they do and love their overengineering, but the jump we made kind of feels unproportionate to the time it took.
@SkateClipsAndTips
3 ай бұрын
I bought the Thermalright Phantom Spirit and couldn't be happier. Costs 35 bucks and it cools close to a 280mm aio
@StefanGalia
2 ай бұрын
Yep, I have the PS and it's a beast.
@SkateClipsAndTips
2 ай бұрын
@@StefanGalia yesss, just wish the fans were a bit quieter
@bgtubber
3 ай бұрын
I know Noctua are generally more expensive than other brands, but dang. That's a big price increase for a small efficiency gain. :/ You are better off just buying a liquid cooler and you'll get the same or better performance at better noise levels.
@00wheelie00
3 ай бұрын
Having one expensive system die due to an AIO leak appearing after over a year, there is no way I will let a liquid near my electronics ever again.
@schwazernebe
3 ай бұрын
@@00wheelie00 maybe start buying good aios and not crap with 2 years of warranty
@00wheelie00
3 ай бұрын
@@schwazernebe I wasn't under the impression Corsair made crap aio watercoolers when I bought it, nor am I now. Any brand no matter the warranty will have the occasional leak. And warranty doesn't mean much when I got my aio replaced, but still had to buy a new psu, mb and cpu myself. I was lucky the GPU survived the liquid damage. Why would I ever risk that again when I can aircool without risk of leaking, pump failure or clogging? I get the clocks I want from PBO with air too, no interest in manual overclocking. And my latest case is windowless, so looks are irrelevant too. There is no benefit to watercooling for me.
@franticuploader3668
3 ай бұрын
Great review guys. I'm off to buy an Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360. My reasoning is I already have the NH-D15 (not G2) and moving to the G2 only gets me 2 degrees lower. The ALF III 360 will get me about 8 degrees cooler. And I'm using a 13900K, so...
@ashystyle
3 ай бұрын
Why would anyone pay all of this money when you have Thermalright assasin 120 SE for 30$?
@erigler
3 ай бұрын
It would also be cool to see how the old NH-D15 performs when using the NF-A14x25r G2 🙂
@tonyy.8852
3 ай бұрын
HELL YEAH I have been waiting for this !!!!
@syedsakifrahman3021
3 ай бұрын
HELL YEAH
@StefanGalia
2 ай бұрын
HELL YEAH, waste money when you can get the same performance for half the price! 🤣
@MrSmitheroons
3 ай бұрын
Will I ever buy such an expensive cooler? I don't think so. Am I glad it exists? Yes. Engineering is stepped up to the next level in every part of the product. Company is known to support these products for many years. It's an awesome thing to see.
@pandalife_gaming
3 ай бұрын
Noctua, I love your products, but there's no world were I'm spending $150 for an air cooler. Even $100 is pushing it when you're fighting for market share against Thermalright. Good cooler though 🤷♂️
@FragEightyfive
3 ай бұрын
Air coolers are bulletproof. I have one from the 2000's that has been on 3 platforms. Noctua has sent me 2 additional mounting brackets (with proof of purchase) for those 2 newer sockets.
@skyjewel4861
3 ай бұрын
Considering you guys are comparing it to the TR Peerless Assassin, I would like y’all to compare it with the TR Phantom Spirit. A great cooler too at a great price with an extra heat pipe
@SzwarcuKX5
3 ай бұрын
What about old D15 with new fans? You did other way around and it made big difference.
@nehalemxtv5331
3 ай бұрын
too much money for too little gain
@blazed85
3 ай бұрын
4 degrees warmer than a $30 peerless assassin…. And they are making a 140mm peerless assassin too. I’m gonna have to pass on this cooler 😕
@funtaril
2 ай бұрын
I care about Noctua products as much as I care about Rolls-Royce or Bugatti cars. $20 coolers doing only 5-6 degrees more is where I'm at. Also - will we ever see fan tester in action?
@91darko
3 ай бұрын
What a disappointment from Noctua. Almost no improvement. Outperformed by cheaper older versions. What were they doing for 10 years?
@Fantastika
2 ай бұрын
It's not outperformed? Also it's hard to improve on perfection
@91darko
2 ай бұрын
@@Fantastika By a margin of error. I want to see the new 140mm vs Pantheks t30.
@danield.8615
3 ай бұрын
GNHipHop - new channel? Legend!
@Atrumoris
3 ай бұрын
I was really hoping you'd include at least one of Phantom Spirit coolers in you charts.
@kromtub
3 ай бұрын
"moving to the G.. to the LBC... you would optimize the AM to the... D" instant like on this video
@sumikomei
2 ай бұрын
Wow, I like how they "tried to prevent a beat frequency" by introducing a very annoying beat frequency to the new fans. Good job Noctua, good to know that insane 150 dollar price tag is going to absolutely nothing. I *vastly* prefer the sound of the old fans in this test.
@Shantara11
3 ай бұрын
I've been using Noctua fans in every PC I've built. A part of me wants to buy a G2 for my next build, though it is extremely difficult to justify it based on the performance alone, no matter how well their previous models served me, and no matter how much I enjoyed their engineers' interviews with Steve.
@Chopper153
3 ай бұрын
Buy a Thermalright cooler and use Noctua fans. Or an AIO with Noctua fans if you want the best noise normalised performance.
@jamesm568
3 ай бұрын
There's lots of good choices out there, but I will always put Noctua first, even if they are cheaper options available due to the company's reputation of outstanding support for the long-term.
@v0ldy54
3 ай бұрын
@@jamesm568 that's Stockholm syndrome
@jamesm568
3 ай бұрын
@@v0ldy54 No, It's called a brand having an outstanding reputation unlike a many of other brands out there.
@aerosw1ft
3 ай бұрын
@@jamesm568noctua got their reputation because of how far ahead their air coolers were back then. But the market's vastly different now and noctua no longer holds the edge performance wise, especially considering the price.
@Kumoiwa
3 ай бұрын
Definition of diminishing returns: NH-D15 G2
@mrmudcatslim1004
3 ай бұрын
You guys do really good work. You test things that others do not. There are plenty of other good KZitem channels out there. They all do good work, but you guys have set a standard that other channels can use as a benchmark. Over the years you have really taken it to another level.
@athmaid
3 ай бұрын
To me the G2 sounds like it's pulsing really quickly, kind of annoying coupled with the higher pitch overall. What RPM offset was it on the G2 again?
@schnitz5450
3 ай бұрын
Could you please 🙏 review the Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE as the Peerless Assassin is now 2 generations old as they also release the SE version and I don't think any people are buying the OG version anymore.
@kamilfingr371
3 ай бұрын
182€ in my country. They can shove NH-D15 G2 somewhere
@christopherwood2290
2 ай бұрын
Expensive cooler that barely out performs coolers that cost $100 less. Hard pass.
@pandavova
3 ай бұрын
Using the Thermalright PS120 Evo with Noctuas offset AM4 mount! (NM-AMB14 and NM-SFB4)
@tamarockstar45
3 ай бұрын
Not Earth shattering. Personally the expense isn't justified. Just get a Thermalright dual tower or go liquid.
@bosco9028
2 ай бұрын
3950X results are stupid and irrelevant. No one is buying this cooler to run on an ancient CPU like that. Scrap that sh1t. You should be testing this cooler only on the hottest (in terms of heat) CPU's from both Intel and AMD right now. The 14900KS and 7950X at full load balls to the wall heat to see what these coolers can handle. You should be also testing frequency degradation as well. If you are going to test this sh1t, test it on the latest CPU's.
@josemanzanilla115
3 ай бұрын
Straight to the point...we are just buying the name, save some money and look for cheaper options that grants you the same result.
@PaintMasterPoE
3 ай бұрын
Well, its sure good but not with that price. If your cpu can be cooled with air cooler, you go for $35 thermalright cooler, if not, you go with $55 thermalright aio, or less noisy $100 arctic aio that cool better, cost less and makes less noise.
@alsiniz
3 ай бұрын
A four degree delta between the new NH-D15 and the Peerless Assassin? Talk about $ diminishing returns $. Thank you GN for the extremely comprehensive review
@BeefIngot
3 ай бұрын
and they are coming up with something even better, so Noctua aint looking too hot right now.
@lgolem09l
3 ай бұрын
Diminishing returns at the very top end? I'm shocked
@maxv9872
3 ай бұрын
I dont understand why anyone would lay $150 for an air cooler over an aio.
@alsiniz
3 ай бұрын
@@maxv9872 reliability and less potential points of failure
@alsiniz
3 ай бұрын
@@maxv9872 air coolers have less points of failure and the only maintenance required is dust cleaning and fan replacement when the bearings give out. They make more sense for most unless you're looking at heat loads above 200W.
@Anko9ma
3 ай бұрын
I'm using the original D15. I find this test amazingly helpful. I could see the difference in the base plate.
@seanunderscorepry
3 ай бұрын
This reads like a haiku
@RWL2012
3 ай бұрын
it has 3 too many words though lol
@andytunnah7650
3 ай бұрын
I paid 60 quid for my NH-D14 in 2011. I thought it was crazy when the new ones went up to £100, but £150 is just nuts. This cooler isn't for me (3700X, maybe upgrading to a 5700X, so sub-100w), I prioritise silence/quiet over power (tinnitus), but after watching the review and listening to the new fans at high-load RPM, I'd probably go for the older model. Although tbh if I was upgrading a cooler to put in a system that needed it, it means I have enough money to do such a big upgrade, and would prioritise silence again, and probably do a liquid cooling setup with as big a radiator and fans as possible to really push how low RPM I can go on the fans. I'm trying to figure out who this is for. That price tag, it's almost like it's a bragging rights part, like the high end Intel parts that suck up huge amounts of power for marginal gains. But surely someone who goes to that level would get a liquid cooler, or water cooling setup.
@Bound4Earth
21 күн бұрын
Why even replace the NH-D14? If price is that much a factor just keep using it. America and it's ewaste is going to bury us all in Temu shit man. Also you run your fans at 100%? bro just to net what another handful of frames. Try slowing down whatever fans you have to make them quieter and still get great performance.
@kenk039
3 ай бұрын
With the washer mod they should include 4 longer screws. Looks like maybe one thread is holding it together. Or buy a Thermalright block like I did, works well.
@zexal4974
3 ай бұрын
tf did noctua do for 7 years bruh the phantom spirit 120 is better than this and its 40 bucks and looks better and smaller 😭
@bassyey
2 ай бұрын
They're just relying on their name now lol. It's over Noctua.
@NGreedia
3 ай бұрын
It's been a few days since it's become available. A day later, no other channels or websites have released any reviews. Just goes to show how much dedication Steve and the GN team to cover this so quickly.
@sgtgyn6178
3 ай бұрын
Just bought the G2 LBC for my AM4
@erictayet
3 ай бұрын
So all I can say is the new product is such a small iterative improvement that for most people, buying the last-gen product is a better value proposition for longevity reasons. And for hardcore overclockers, Artic LF3 360 is still the best mid-term solution. As mentioned in your video for that product, the only downside is the hard-to-use mounting plate leaf spring for AMD platform.
@Bound4Earth
21 күн бұрын
I think people value Noctua for longevity and support over price. Noctua has never been a value add product and never will be. It is like arguing Vulcan stoves are bad buys, even though they outlast whirlpool and similar brands everyone buys by a large margin.
@chayze3009
3 ай бұрын
As always, I appreciate the effort you've put into the review
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