I still use Atisan thinner made for water mixable oils very sparingly. use it to thin my paint when working on the underpainting -it flows better than using water.
@nicholasjackson
Жыл бұрын
Hey! Have you noticed any adverse effects from using it? Do you like it? I haven't looked into it very much myself and haven't used water mixable since college.
@loitermanart
Жыл бұрын
@@nicholasjackson Just started using it and I'm not a professional -just learning how to work with it but I made 3 test studies -or f-ups on canvas pad this weekend so how they hold up I'll see. I used to use regular oils with turp damar and linseed oil as medium back in the day, got my hands on "Black oil" and tried megilp -but I have a family now. I'm trying out water soluble oils with my regular oils mixed with Schmike medium w -which turns regular oils into water mixable -which do work together. Just diluting them with water makes them feel sticky and they don't brush on as well -the thinner was a good choice.
@nicholasjackson
10 ай бұрын
That is wild. I’m not sure if you can turn regular oils into water based with a medium but I would have to look further. Thanks for the info and keep us posted.
@annafdd
8 ай бұрын
@@nicholasjacksonIt’s called medium W, from Schminke.
@vermis8344
Жыл бұрын
I've put off oil painting for years, despite having half a drawer full of the stuff, partly because of the doubts about solvents. I bought OMS, Sansodor, limonene thinners, and they're all still sitting there unopened! Lately I almost bought a bottle of spike lavender oil too, until I dived down the rabbit hole of 100% solvent-free oil painting. This has been part of that research! Very helpful, thanks. I may buy some of the Gamblin alkyd mediums, though I'm also interested to hear about how chalk and various egg preparations can be used. I might play around with those, see how they behave for myself.
@nicholasjackson
Жыл бұрын
So glad you are here! The journey to paint without toxins is certainly a road that takes time and research. Glad to be of help! Let us know how your experiments go.
@peggy-lynnholland8392
3 ай бұрын
Sennelier Green brush cleaner is a wonderful non toxic medium, that is not a solvent ( has no smell ) that cleans brushes effortlessly
@nicholasjackson
3 ай бұрын
Hey Peggy, Thanks for the heads up! I have been wanting to try Sennelier. Are you using it for cleaning brushes and painting?
@creativesolutions902
2 ай бұрын
Yes, I was wondering the same thing, can you use it the same way you would use odorless mineral spirits for example, in an underpainting?
@lophoflora
Ай бұрын
They have a brush cleaner (green label) and a medium (green and blue label) both non toxic.
@nicholasjackson
Ай бұрын
Excellent! Thanks for the heads up.
@lophoflora
Ай бұрын
Sorry, the green and blue is a thinner, the green and pink is a medium.
@TimothyCHenderson
Жыл бұрын
I just use water soluble. Never used traditional oils so I don't have attachments to texture or medium feel. It's more expensive but offers me peace of mind.
@nicholasjackson
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I used water soluble while in college and I thought they worked great. Do you thin your paints with water then?
@annafdd
8 ай бұрын
@@nicholasjacksonwhy did you stop? I use water soluble too, but they are not easy to find because people don’t buy them. Daniel Smith has just discontinued their line.
@kerosenefilms
8 ай бұрын
@@annafdd cobra is the best
@KitKatToeBeans
4 ай бұрын
@@annafdddickblick has most, if not all of the brands available. Very sad to hear Daniel Smith gave up.
@csengehangay8806
11 ай бұрын
Man, that kit setup with the white background is masterful
@nicholasjackson
11 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@JoyceHAnderson-rp5bf
8 ай бұрын
Help me understand more clearly if and how I use the fat over lean rules when following your instructions above. I paint fairly thinly and love the idea that my work will be "touch' dry possibly overnight or at least in 24 hours. Portraits in graphite are easy for me, but when I try to do them in acrylics, they dry too fast, and even a minimum wet to dry color shift is just awful when I'm working in layers on a hyperealism style on a face. I'm hoping that you have years of experience in your technique and can guarantee me that my paintings won't crack in the future because I didn't use the fat over lean principle when my paints were touch dry. H E L P I will start your method in the morning on some tiny seascapes for practice. I love your video! Thanks so much! joyce
@nicholasjackson
7 ай бұрын
Hey Joyce! Sorry, I can't really guarantee anything as there are many variables that go into drying time and paintings that crack. However, the basics of fat over lean are as follows. You want to use less oil in the paint in the early stages whether that is using a solvent to thin down the paint (which I don't) or scrubbing the paint thinly with a brush. As you layer, use more oil/medium mixed in your paint. Another option is to use acrylics in the early stages of blocking in your painting, and then glaze oils in the later stages. This will help reduce cracking in the future. Keep painting!
@eileensakal987
Жыл бұрын
I keep telling other painters that since we don’t use turpentine or OMS to clean a greasy frying pan, then why are we having this dangerous substance in our studio and using it to clean our brushes? The Masters brush cleaner is good but expensive, I use dish soap….works a charm.
@nicholasjackson
11 ай бұрын
Exactly. There are certainly a lot of alternatives for those who are interested. Thanks for the comment!
@JazzLassie
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the tips, Nicholas! I am trying to make my studio solvent free as well, and your video has been a lifesaver! I wish someone had told me sooner that I don't need solvents so I could have saved myself some money (and a throbbing headache!).
@nicholasjackson
Жыл бұрын
You are so welcome! I am glad to hear that the tips help. Which ideas are you most drawn to?
@JazzLassie
Жыл бұрын
@@nicholasjackson I really liked the idea of having a brush dip. I didn't know about clove oil helping to keep brushes from drying out. I also really appreciated the idea of not having to wash my brushes after every session, as I am very much an on-and-off painter. Thanks for all the tips!
@nicholasjackson
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I have found that brush tip has helped me paint more as clean up. Time can sometimes be a deterrent from painting. Glad you are here.
@lorrainehughes6811
18 күн бұрын
Great video, great information. Thank you! :)
@nicholasjackson
18 күн бұрын
You bet! Glad it was helpful. 😀
@hectorherrera8316
Жыл бұрын
I try to use my oil paint directly from the paint tube I use natural solvent only when required for specific details. You must take Nicholas's advice seriously! Thanks for the video!
@nicholasjackson
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I totally agree that it is best to try to paint with it straight from the tube if you can. Have a great one!
@Alexandra-ks7cb
5 ай бұрын
I made a brush holder out of a old cardboard cracker box. I just sliced some x's in it with an exacto knife and stuck my brushes in. Super easy and I can throw it out when it gets gross. I'm really loving M.Graham's walnut oil as well.
@nicholasjackson
5 ай бұрын
What a genius idea. I might just steal that one :)
@mele2814
5 ай бұрын
Really wonderful tutorial! Thank you for this!! I've been considering buying the walnut oil and linseed oil from Chelsea Classic Studio. The dropper idea is also so helpful.
@nicholasjackson
5 ай бұрын
Hey thanks so much. I've also been testing recently the product line from Chelsea Classic Studio. It looks pretty solid. Glad you are here.
@dean3583
7 ай бұрын
I use grapeseed oil from the supermarket to clean my brush. You place the sink strainer at the bottom of the jar with the mesh side up then fill in the oil. You rub the brush over the mesh, and the oil sinks to the bottom. Don't even need soap or turpentine anymore.
@nicholasjackson
7 ай бұрын
Nice tip! Thx.
@andywesselsphotographyart
Жыл бұрын
Great video. I just got some walnut oil and walnut/alkyd for the same reason. Really liked the way you presented the topic!!
@nicholasjackson
Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful Andy!
@GirdaBerzerker
6 ай бұрын
I was terrified of the solvents when I started oil painting (5 yrs ago ❤) So I got the Chelsea classical studio lavender spike oil. I use that at the beginning of the painting and the brush cleaner. But anyways I came here to say I’ve been enjoying the walnut alkyd lately, I love the flow, gloss and the blendiness of it 😂
@nicholasjackson
5 ай бұрын
Wonderful! I have also been using the Chelsea Spike Oil. Do you like how it works for the initial underpainting?
@GirdaBerzerker
5 ай бұрын
@@nicholasjacksonIt works fantastic for that! Although I have never tried OMS or turpentine, I don’t have it to compare to. So I guess ignorance is bliss 😂
@biblestudysongwritingjoyce1981
Жыл бұрын
Excellet tutorial. Thank you. Help me understand though. Walnut oil slows the drying time of oils, but Walnut alkyd speeds the drying time. So how do you use both on a painting? Also Walnut alkyd is considered fat. So how do you do the fat over lean principle while using both these mediums? I'm about to change from acrylics to oils tomorrow and I need to be perfectly clear about the two mediums. Thanks again for any help. I do want a toxic free studio too.
@nicholasjackson
Жыл бұрын
Hey Joyce, Glad the video was helpful. I typically only use Walnut Alkyd when I am painting, and only use the Walnut oil for cleaning brushes or if I don't care how long the painting takes to complete. lol Because I am not using a traditional paint thinner, I don't need to really worry about observing the fat over lean rule because I am only using "fat" during the painting process. Right now, I am using acrylics for my underpaintings and then applying oils over the top, thus using the best of both kinds of paints. Hope that helps! Happy painting!
@JoyceAnderson-ChristianMusic
3 ай бұрын
@@nicholasjackson - Thanks again so much. This helps tremendously. You've made a complex subject now so simple. :)
@JoyceAnderson-ChristianMusic
3 ай бұрын
@@nicholasjackson Do you spray any kind of fixative between your acrylic and oil layer? I too will be underpainting portraits in acrylics.
@nicholasjackson
3 ай бұрын
Hey Joyce! You are most welcome! I put a combination of spray fixatives, sprayed from the can or an airbrush, to brushed on matte medium, GAC 100, and/or Golden’s isolation coat.
@NouraZahle
15 күн бұрын
@@nicholasjackson doesn’t an acrylic base affect the tooth of the canvas for oil to cling onto?
@NouraZahle
15 күн бұрын
Please update us if you try The Medium, Clarified Pale Cold-Pressed Walnut Oil by Chelsea compared to M. Graham in terms of yellowing over time and drying times.
@nicholasjackson
14 күн бұрын
I haven't tried the medium yet, but will let you all know when I do. Thanks for checking in.
@deborahdamgaard-hansen7927
Жыл бұрын
Helpful! Are you in Bemidji? (that Paul Bunyan work at the end is wonderful....) , it´s my old home town. Just wondering!
@nicholasjackson
Жыл бұрын
Nice catch! I am. How crazy that you would find me!
@SlickOils
8 ай бұрын
I use Sennelier green for oil. Never had an issue.
@nicholasjackson
7 ай бұрын
They thanks so much. I will check this out. What is the consistency like? Is it goopy or rather smooth?
@AllGrowing
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the recommendations, very useful! So do you use both the walnut oil and walnut alkyd medium in the same painting, and how long does it take to dry? Say, not a thick layer of paint.
@nicholasjackson
10 ай бұрын
You are most welcome! Stick to the alkyd if you want the painting to dry faster. Depending on the pigment it can take a few days if not a week to dry but I believe it is because I am Storting my painting in a basement. I need a better system for drying for sure.
@jericobesmonte8416
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing!❤️👍😎
@nicholasjackson
Жыл бұрын
You bet Jerico! Thanks for watching.
@emilyerdbeere9210
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I paint with Walnutoil, in my paintings got yellow. I must admit that I don’t have the space to store them in a bright environment
@nicholasjackson
Жыл бұрын
Hey Emily, sorry to hear they turned yellow. How long did it take for them to turn yellow?
@emilyerdbeere9210
Жыл бұрын
@@nicholasjackson about 2 month after drying in the dark
@nicholasjackson
Жыл бұрын
That is crazy. I will have to look into this myself a bit. Sorry that it happened to you.
@emilyerdbeere9210
Жыл бұрын
nevertheless I will stick with it because chemicals are not an option. Do you have the space to dry your paintings in a bright room?
@nicholasjackson
Жыл бұрын
I actually don’t have a good setup for that currently. They are all drying downstairs in the dark. 😂
@jean-paulvaneck5309
8 ай бұрын
So winter is getting quit cold here..., and im trying to find a way to paint with the window closed, so without my OMS, but still be able to work with layers (and fat over lean). Do you think it is okay to use the walnut oil and walnut medium with the windows closed? I cant really find a safety data sheet specifically for these products..
@jean-paulvaneck5309
8 ай бұрын
the more i read, te more i get the idea that working fat over lean without solvents is not possible :(.
@nicholasjackson
8 ай бұрын
From what I have learned about this is that the rule does not apply in the same way, but in how much oil you are using in relation to using no added oil.
@SentientTent
4 ай бұрын
@@jean-paulvaneck5309You might want to give water mixible oils a check. I quite like them for initial layers of paint because water evaporates a bit quicker than turpentine and I don't have to worry about ventilation. You are technically still using a solvent, but water vapor isn't really a health concern. Most of my paint collection is just regular oils since I tend to buy my paints at used art supply stores, but the water soluble oils play nice with all of my traditional paints and mediums.
@annafdd
2 ай бұрын
I have since given up on water mixable and I am using Gamsol as a thinner. What do you make of it? Admittedly, I know I will never do oil painting full time for years, because that is not how my brain works (and I have my watercolors ready for when that bug bites me again), but I am curious to know if you considered it.
@nicholasjackson
2 ай бұрын
Hey Anna, Thanks for the update. Why did you end up giving up on water mixable? I actually do use a tiny bit (and I mean tiny) of Gamsol if the paints are simply too sticky (probably getting old), to make them more workable. I think in extreme moderation, it should be a problem.
@annafdd
2 ай бұрын
@@nicholasjackson well, if I have to be honest, I coveted Gamblin’s reclaimed iron oxide paints. The colors, and the idea to clean rivers and get pigments I found irresistible. But also, the choice of colors is somewhat limited now that Daniel Smith has given up on oils, and I am afraid that if I get too attached to the watermixable… well, they might go away and leave me to learn a whole new set of skills. Already when I went back to my home town last Christmas I found that it was impossible to buy water-mixable oils anywhere around. “We used to stock them but they didn’t sell” is what several art supply stores told me.
@thedianarein
7 ай бұрын
Do you have any tips for a non-toxic medium to add to paint for people that like to put a ground down, that would keep the first layer lean for a subtractive sketch that requires a good amount of paint to sketch into? It needs to stay wet until the sketch is finished which could take 45minutes before being left to dry.
@nicholasjackson
7 ай бұрын
I don't have a personal recommendation as the mediums I use are more of a fat and therefore aren't really to be used in a lean purpose. I have been hearing good things about Sennelier Green for Oil Thinner, but haven't tried it myself. Let us know how it goes! If you don't want things drying in later stages of the painting my recommendation would be just to use walnut oil.
@yulijiang8830
2 ай бұрын
Hi, what kind of walnut oil? Thanks
@nicholasjackson
2 ай бұрын
Hey! Welcome to the channel. I use M. Graham Walnut/Alkyd. You can find it on my kit at: kit.co/nicholasjackson/oil-painting-supplies-non-toxic
@amandapeete7907
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this!
@nicholasjackson
Жыл бұрын
You bet! Anything specific that was helpful to you?
@michellesreborns
Ай бұрын
What is your second favorite thinner other than walnut oil? I'm looking for a non-toxic thinner but I'm allergic to walnuts LOL I don't want to die!
@nicholasjackson
Ай бұрын
lol yes. Please don’t use it then. Haha. 😆 try solvent free fluid by Gamblin. It’s a bit sticky but worth a try.
@michellesreborns
Ай бұрын
@@nicholasjackson Thanks so much for your speedy reply! I haven't come across that one, I'll look into it. Cool, thank you! I also just bought some safflower oil to try :)
@michellesreborns
Ай бұрын
@@nicholasjackson Do you have a preference between Gamblin's bottle that just says "Safflower Oil" and Gamblin "Solvent Free Fluid" which is safflower oil mixed with something else?
@nicholasjackson
Ай бұрын
Most welcome! Glad you are here. The safflower oil will take quite a bit of time to dry. The solvent free liquid will dry considerably faster.
@nicholasjackson
Ай бұрын
I believe it has an alkyd in it which helps with the drying time.
@rhyannonp8231
7 ай бұрын
how do you do a solvent free wash/tone the canvas?
@nicholasjackson
6 ай бұрын
Lately, I have been embracing using art mediums for their strengths and thus right now I use acrylics for washing and underpaintings.
@ShopDogProductions13
8 ай бұрын
Hi, I’m just starting out, what if I can’t use walnut oil do to a severe allergy. Thanks for any help you can offer.
@nicholasjackson
7 ай бұрын
Hey! I would recommend Gamblin Solvent-Free Fluid. Enjoy
@ShopDogProductions13
7 ай бұрын
@@nicholasjackson thank you!
@nicholasjackson
7 ай бұрын
You bet! Happy art making :)
@tracy-eire
7 ай бұрын
Problem is that cloves reek and can give you quite a headache.
@nicholasjackson
6 ай бұрын
True! I might be just a weirdo, but I kinda like the smell. lol
@annelloydholden2567
Жыл бұрын
Very informative. I have a question though. What is your process for handling the walnut oil as it is very combustible. Also, would you happen to know if Safflower oil is less combustible and the use of it vs walnut oil. Thank you
@nicholasjackson
Жыл бұрын
Hey Anne, I do my best to not let rags get saturated or leave them around too long. Definitely don't put a bunch of rags together! I don't know if one oil is more combustible than the other. If you find out, let me know.
@Sirenia0
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! I‘m just getting into oil painting and don’t want to use solvents either, so I got the Sennelier Green for Oil paint thinner. Since I’ve never done any oil painting I find it hard to compare its behavior to regular solvents. Do you have any experience with it?
@nicholasjackson
Жыл бұрын
You are most welcome. I haven’t had any experience with Sennelier Green, but it looks interesting. Please let us know how it works for you and if you recommend that I give it a try. Thanks for connecting!
@Sirenia0
Жыл бұрын
@@nicholasjackson sure, I hope I can even tell if it’s good or bad 😄 but I’d love to hear your opinion on it if you ever decide to test it out!
@JazzLassie
Жыл бұрын
Hey Sirenia, I use Sennelier Green for Oil (Gfo) as well! Overall, I really like the product, I think it's fantastic. Here are the differences I've noticed between using Sennelier and Gamblin's Gamsol: 1. Whereas Gamsol leaves a matte finish, Gfo leaves a bit of a glossy look. Honestly I quite like the glossiness, but I've mistaken the glossiness for the paint not being dry. 2. Paint dries faster with Gamsol. Personally, I don't mind having my painting out for a day or two before I go back to it, and I live in a dry enough climate (Pacific Northwest) that this is not a problem. That being said, I've learned to use Gfo sparingly, as too much of it will extend drying time. 3. I haven't gotten a headache from Gfo yet, but for whatever reason, Gamsol knocks me out for a day, at least. I could just be too sensitive. Overall, I think it works really well. How did you find it?
@Sirenia0
Жыл бұрын
@@JazzLassie hey! 😊 thank you for sharing your experience, very much appreciated! Now that I know a tiny bit more about oil painting than a month ago, I can say that I like the product in the sense that it is solvent free, but before I tried it I was assuming that I could use it to thin my paint to use it like a wash. And now I know that I can’t 😅 which is quite sad, because I really wanted to tone my canvas with thin paint and/or create thin underpaintings with it. But when I use a lot of it the drying time is insane and I’m too impatient to wait for my underpainting to dry for a week 🫠 I mean it’s good for basic alla prima painting I guess, but I still feel the need to be able to thin my paints even more to get that washy feel. But I’m just such an oil painting noob that I might imagine it the wrong way. I am now experimenting with Cobra water soluble oils to give me that washy look, but since I don’t use gesso to prime my practice canvas paper, I feel that it might not work that well either as the paper just absorbs everything soooo quickly and then bends itself on the sides 🥲. But maybe I’m wrong here as well because I have no clue what I’m actually doing and how material should or should not behave ^^ I just know that it doesn’t behave like I see it in tutorials.. Currently I use plain canvas paper and only paint alla prima because I cannot yet figure out how to make underpaintings work without Gamsol and gesso. But there’s just SO MUCH to learn when it comes to oil painting. I usually paint digitally, so I know the fundamentals, but oils are just so complicated in comparison. Hopefully in a couple of years I will say that about digital painting compared to oils 😁
@JazzLassie
Жыл бұрын
@@Sirenia0 Wow I see thanks for sharing your experience as well! I am continuing to experiment with my oil paints to see how I can thin them without using solvents. I'm going to try using Walnut oil with alkyds next. I'll let you know where that takes me XD. If it becomes a drippy mess, then we'll both know.
@justindirose
2 жыл бұрын
Lesson learned: don't eat paint.
@nicholasjackson
2 жыл бұрын
I would say I have done my job then. :) lol
@dont-want-no-wrench
Жыл бұрын
suit yourselves, but recognize there is a hysteria atm over the toxicity of oil painting. use proper studio technique.
@nicholasjackson
Жыл бұрын
The concern over toxins in oil painting has been around for years, and it has certainly ebbed and flowed. With a proper studio set up most of the toxic issues can be avoided or greatly reduced. For many people, the investment in proper ventilation is just not in the cards. Or they simply don’t want to worry about it as much if they have pets or kids. I’m simply providing some alternatives to those who are interested. What prompted you to watch the video?
@vermis8344
Жыл бұрын
Gonna be frank, after just about fighting off cancer in childhood; having another cancer scare recently; reading about Bob Ross's lymphoma, and a neurological condition specifically named 'painter's dementia'; and watching the stutters and shakes of an oil painting tutor in person... I think I'll play it safe; do a bit more than 'cover your thinner pot!'; and live _(possibly_ a bit longer) without the idiosyncratic character of turps fumes everywhere.
@Szilke
4 ай бұрын
The proper studio technique would be at least 6 air changes per hour. Not sure most people have the luxury of that.
@cindyoverall8139
Жыл бұрын
That is not true. I am 72 and I have been painting for 50+ years. Do your homework.
@annafdd
8 ай бұрын
That is very rude and also not very clear. What isn’t true?
@lithiumsun9411
5 ай бұрын
Anecdotal evidence 🥱🥱🥱
@andrewtozerfineart9623
5 ай бұрын
Rude. This guy is informative and helpful.
@danitagreenwood1591
4 ай бұрын
Thanks I don’t know whether acrylic or oil is easy or non toxic inacrylic for me as I have COPD, just painting vases and pouring media as I,l older. Do enjoy .
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