Corrections/UPDATE: This video is outdated and contains major errors. Since this video was made it is apparent that Turkey was not inhabited by Western Hunter Gatherers and that the Early Anatolian farmers were not a mix of Levantine people and WHG, but were actually a separate people called Anatolian Hunter Gatherers who were genetically intermediate between those two populations which is why I and others previously made the mistake of thinking there was a hybrid population in the region. the AHG seem to have learned to farm on their own mostly, and not due to migrations from the Levant.
@francogutierrez1793
3 жыл бұрын
Do you plan to make a video about it?? Or about the civilization of sardinia
@starwreck
3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the update!
@mattlee2899
3 жыл бұрын
Implying we have ever gained anything of value from the Levant.
@henrirapson1403
3 жыл бұрын
You seem to be making the same mistake (speaking too definitively) again. There is no evidence that EEFs "were not" a mix of these two populations. Your claim in the previous video that EEFs descended from Natufians was actually consistent with the evidence. Particularly the fact, which you espouse here, of them being genetically intermediate/proximate. It's an excellent hypothesis for the genetic similarity we do see between these populations, as well as the presence of agriculture in both of these populations, and the necessity of the transmission of agriculture being unidirectional (from Natufians to Anatolian populations) given evidence of a prior discovery by Natufians. All you need to do is add the word 'may' before many of your statements, and the quality and accuracy would be much improved.
@Bleda412
3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to point out that there are believed to be multiple cattle (cow) domestication events, occurring both in Eurasia and Africa. An article that I found describes three such events.
@sjorsvanhens
7 жыл бұрын
VERY NEOLITHIC
@C.Noble13
3 жыл бұрын
33 Bones to your Neo.Cor.Tex
@TarebossT
7 жыл бұрын
very pre-indo-european
@thefullmonte1902
5 жыл бұрын
The song from Sardinia reminds me very much from folk singing in the Balkans. There is a prehistoric unchanged value to it.
@RedStefan
3 жыл бұрын
There's also genetic connection the dominant Y chromosome variant in both the South Slavic countries (except Bulgaria where it's second) and Romania is I2 the same as in Sardinia.
@liberoAquila
3 жыл бұрын
My dad said the same thing, it reminds him of traditional Dalmatian singing.
@gigasigma8373
3 жыл бұрын
@@RedStefan l2 dna originates in ukraine and came down to europe very late. Its not related to sardinians at all
@boshnjak
3 жыл бұрын
@@gigasigma8373 Then why Sardinians have that haplogroup?
@philburnell5148
2 жыл бұрын
@@boshnjak Not the same subclade
@ДианаМитник
5 жыл бұрын
Very good video. you have a great knowledge on Europe. I am a french patriot and I love our continent and Europeans in general. we have such a rich and diverse culture and peoples. It is a shame that some people wish to destroy this, including European themselves who do not see how precious Europeans are in this vast world. You honor your ancestors. I have seen several of your videos. keep up the good work. Force et honneur
@-gemberkoekje-5547
2 жыл бұрын
Kinda sus
@giuliursajanna7000
4 жыл бұрын
Hello from a Sardinian lady with a very ancient surname (Urru = beautiful palm-tree in sumerian language) ❤️
@xxxfirehuunterxxx
7 жыл бұрын
Also, since you do a lot of videos on the indo Europeans, mind doing one about non-European 'indo European groups', such as ones in Iran, Afghanistan and India? I've always been interested in that area and their genetic history.
@askell5049
7 жыл бұрын
I recall you theorized that human history is so much longer and storied than currently accepted in the mainstream. That maybe we came out of Africa much earlier than previously thought, or that we originated elsewhere. Care to share your thoughts, maybe in a video?
@dleechristy
6 жыл бұрын
"History" was limited by WRITING. Writing is recent, and in some places very recent. Now in addition to archeology and linguistic clues (they are not dispositive of DNA but can provide clues and DO reflect CULTURE) we have at least "some" ancient DNA -- That too is limited but still much farther back than written records. Coming out of Africa may not have been a one time event and as it is, it was well underway more than 50 thousand years ago in the case of modern types, maybe 300,000 years ago for some more archaic types that added some DNA into the stew.
@williamhohmeister4841
5 жыл бұрын
Xurious playing in the background, nice!
@gundhardhu7788
7 жыл бұрын
i'm very proud of my Sardinian blood
@joannechisholm4501
4 жыл бұрын
Good your people built Stone Hendge in England.
@joannechisholm4501
4 жыл бұрын
Sardinian are 90% Anatolian Farmers wow us is the UK are more of a mix we are Western Hunter Gathers Anatolian Farmer but not as butch and Indo European
@iyanabellamy3170
4 жыл бұрын
Same
@Cheepchipsable
3 жыл бұрын
So am I - has pride of place on my mantle piece.
@Armdfg
7 жыл бұрын
I think this video might've pissed off many a nordicist around here. Anyways, very well spoken.
@nickolausafon5458
3 жыл бұрын
Apparently the "Nordic" people are a Dinaric founder population, vary Neolithic. Dinaric people anciently split off from pre-agricultural Arab-Anatolian peoples. The dark-skinned paleo Europeans are even older. About 30,000 years ago, the ancestors of the blond people looked Arab while the ancestors of Indo-Europeans were Indian-like or Asian-like and paleo- "first gen" remnants evolved into a Asian-like "race". The dark skinned people ended up with brown skin and odd eyes.
@thesorriestswordswoman7054
3 жыл бұрын
Placenta worshippers are mad at this, triggered every time someone mention Sardinia :V
@Sasuke-kx2xb
3 жыл бұрын
@@nickolausafon5458 so you are implying that the Indo-Europeans are indian?
@ManyDog
3 жыл бұрын
@@Sasuke-kx2xb they have the same common ancestor. Human populations evolve overtime and have different admixtures and different populations go extinct. The Nords didn't get blue eyes until 6,000 - 10,000 years ago.
@LucidWanderer
3 жыл бұрын
Why would it piss us off? We're a strong proud people, nothing to be ashamed of.
@CaomhanOMurchadha
7 жыл бұрын
The droning vocals sound like some Balkan and Eastern European bagpipe drones.
@kalashnikov5544
5 жыл бұрын
It's in southern Albania too :)
@herz4217
7 жыл бұрын
I expected a Varg-y "Let's find out!" at the beginning, but a cup of tea was neat as well.
@welurkintheforeststhefores8100
7 жыл бұрын
I actually made myself a cup of tea :D
@karphin1
4 жыл бұрын
welurkintheforests theforests Me, too! 😄
@AF-tv6uf
4 жыл бұрын
@@karphin1 Grabbed coffee!
@skeptic781
3 жыл бұрын
I already had one
@teakwondochest3287
5 жыл бұрын
traveling back in time and learning the religions and myths of the early european people is probably one of my biggest dreams
@Alesxandros
5 жыл бұрын
visit sardinia to find it....central sardinia
@patriziasforza8484
4 жыл бұрын
There were matriarchal religions, the most important was a goddess of the earth and the moon like in the ancient sardinian religions.
@DanDavisHistory
3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful. I'm starting to really appreciate the expansionist, frontier spirit of the EEF.
@noahtylerpritchett2682
3 жыл бұрын
The EEF are interesting when it comes to expanding farming. Though they rarely taught it to other peoples. So are clearly stingy.
@npickard4218
2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love those early farmers! I'm a hobby farmer and I've learnt over time that it's not easy raising livestock and I think it's even more difficult raising crops.
@Hay1hiho
7 жыл бұрын
I recently found your channel and I must say I love it. Every video that I have watched so far has been extremely interesting. Being half English half Swedish myself I have always been fascinated by the relation and history of our peoples.
@skeptic781
2 жыл бұрын
Gött bror, trevligt att se någon annan halv brittisk halv svensk som jag, fast min pappa är nordirländsk och inte engelsk.
@simonestreeter1518
Жыл бұрын
Are you Freddy from UnHerd?
@RedStefan
3 жыл бұрын
I see a lot comments comparing to Balkan folk songs and I agree. There's also genetic connection the dominant Y chromosome variant in both the South Slavic countries (except Bulgaria where it's second) and Romania is I2 the same as in Sardinia. Like they say blood is thicker than water.
@nthavotelcam4112
5 жыл бұрын
This makes sense. This means that we are all middle-eastern hybrids. Southerners more than Northern people. Yay! Natufians! Aurochs died out pretty recently. I think scientists should bring them back from the dead. That would be awesome.
@Survivethejive
5 жыл бұрын
Actually its more accurate to say Near Eastern. We hardly have any DNA from Natufians. You see the farmers from Anatolia were mostly descended from indigenous Anatolian hunter gatherers who were not the same as the levantine hunter gatherers who became Natufians.
@sofijaiiic6716
4 жыл бұрын
@@Survivethejive I have a question about my DNA results and I hope you can explain it to me.
@RavenioTheHatamoto
7 жыл бұрын
I have now found my favourite folk band. Great video as usual m8!
@carlosaradas5926
2 ай бұрын
There is an overlap between the looks of Northern and Southern Europeans. When one deals with these matters, one should treat them always highlighting their relative, approximate, value. Some of us have to go through situations where, as our phenotype does not typically conform to ignorant expectations, we are perceived as an oddity that does not belong where we and scores of generations of our ancestors before us where born. That is the risk of classifying into distinct sets and the reason why individual variation within populations should always be insisted upon.
@misaelsouza3869
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing! To love our ancestors is to love their diversity. Of course there are several kinds of europeans and we should preserver every single one of them if their own costums and features.
@OldPRoyal
7 жыл бұрын
interesting to hear. im half sardinian half german. i thought that the sardinian part made me less european but now i know better.
@anglishbookcraft1516
7 жыл бұрын
Pyro Royal Jesus, you can thank nordicists for that stupid assumption. EVERYONE IN EUROPE IS EUROPEAN!!!
@bayodebadu5834
6 жыл бұрын
well you are less northern european. you probably have less hunter gatherer and indo european dna than the average german. why does it matter so much to be european? you could as well take the european continent then include the middle east and call the new region eureast. then everyone in it would be eureastean. but would the people in the former middle east now be the same as all other europeans? no the wouldn't. the same applies to europe. its a random geographical region that was created mostly based on culture. people back then could have chosen to only take parts of northern europe and make it its own geographical region.
@bayodebadu5834
6 жыл бұрын
and i'm not northern european myself. but this is ridiculous. there are so many of us southern europeans who desperatly want to be considered the same as northern europeans. but we are not. europeans are not all the same. if you can't accept that then you should also not accept that europeans and other people such as middle easterners or north africans are not the same.
@bayodebadu5834
6 жыл бұрын
@Frank Bord "Lol, sardinian are the most preserved european... you cannot be "less" european." wrong. they are a preserved population of the same people that lived in what is now italy around 6000 years ago. but those were not the same as the people who lived in what is now scandinavia or brittain at the same time. so its just wrong to say they are the most "european" people because europe is a fcking big region.
@bayodebadu5834
6 жыл бұрын
"The most preserved according many genetic study. Old european, non indo european." no they are not the most preserved "europeans". they are just a poulation of early southern european farmers that had no big migrations of other people into it for the last 6000 years or something. but it would be nonsense to say that they are the most preserved north europeans or other bs. because those people on sardinia were not the same as the people on other parts of europe. the early european farmers themselves were not uniform. sure if you consider the early european farmers and the natufian element the most european thing then yes they are the most "european" population. but if you consider western hunter gatherers as "most european" then they are definitly not the most european population. basques for example among many other european populations have more hunter gatherer dna than sardinians. when the early farmers migrated to europe they mixed more and more the further north they went. so in the south they had the least amount of hunter gatherer admixture.
@crypticreality8484
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your time and efforts
@0o0Vanilla0o0
6 жыл бұрын
Wow, very interesting... I'm sardinian. Gotta say though that those photos didn't seem very rapresentative of sardinian's typical faces (what I mean is... sometimes I can recognize a fellow sardinian justbecause of our faces, so the ones in the video didn't seem particularly striking to make say 'oh yeees, that's totally a sardinian' 😂) but other than that great video!
@andriacolonna8264
2 жыл бұрын
Probably just a small gene pool on the island. Im Sicilian. So it’s a bigger island duh lol but I can tell somebody is southern Italian right away it’s the nose and the shape of the eyes. I feel like Sardinians look southern Spanish. They don’t look like typical southern Italians.
@giada670
2 жыл бұрын
Yes he CHERRYPICKED hard to find the few Sardinians that don't look Sardinian. Just from that you can see what this channel is all about. Garbage
@goodaimshield1115
Жыл бұрын
@@andriacolonna8264 Southern Spanish don't have a different look than Northern Spanish, really. But yes, those Sardinians looked shockingly Spanish to me. Which is weird, since Spain has more Western Hunter Gatherer and way more Yamnaya admixture than Sardinia, yet, they looked a lot like some people from Spain. I guess we're still mostly Neolithic farmers, and that shows up. Also, as the guy in the video said, genotype =/= phenotype.
@mweskamppp
3 жыл бұрын
Are you sure the mixing of natufians and WHG happened in anatolia? I thought that happened some thousand years later, when den farmers moved to the balkan.
@Survivethejive
3 жыл бұрын
I was wrong. This video is a bit outdated, made before discovery of AHG
@andersschmich8600
3 жыл бұрын
Is it as simple to say that AHG adopted farming and spread west? Or did they already have input from other West Eurasian farming peoples?
@mweskamppp
3 жыл бұрын
@@andersschmich8600 The begin of farming was about 11000 years ago by descendents of the natufiens and south anatolian people. I don't know for you can draw a line there. About 2000 years later they started moving westwards into the area of western hunter gatherers. That is my stand of information. I think it took some time for them to cover Mesopotamia and Anatolia. They were not that mobile. They needed about 3000 years to move from greece to the british islands.
@optimisticnihilist3417
2 жыл бұрын
I've developed a bit of a fixation lately on primitive man, and the development from stone tools and small family groups to larger towns and city-sized populations, so it's nice to remember that I'm subscribed to this channel and that there are a bunch of your videos I still haven't seen.
@omegawii
5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are pretty good. Greetings from across the pond.
@RunesHytte
7 жыл бұрын
Do germans count to the northern europeans or the southern europeans? I know that within the german race there are also subraces which can be devided like the nordic german race which is obviously northern european and the danubian and alpine germanic race which is southern, but overall which group would the central germans be part of? Like those inbetween the alps and the coast, which are again a different subrace entirely
@usedx115x
7 жыл бұрын
Great video STJ! One thing I find particularly interesting is your mention of the WHG population living in Anatolia before the spread of Natufian culture. I have studied the neolithic extensively but from a historical/archaeological perspective with little to no treatment of the genetic data. Can you recommend some reading material for an extensive treatment of the WHG in Anatolia at this early time? Also I find it strange that Georgians cluster the way they do on that chart. In my experience about 25% of Georgians looks north European and the rest look Spanish. Very few could pass as being from the heart of Arabia, yet the clustering suggests a closer affinity to Arabs. I guess phenotypes can be deceiving.
@Survivethejive
7 жыл бұрын
Lautaro Fonz they are far from arabs bt close to turks. They are descended from CHG and also have turkic ancestry
@Survivethejive
7 жыл бұрын
Black Swordsman Guts everyone is pretty much
@cessatiolux6250
6 жыл бұрын
So much information and and mythology I can barely handle containing all of it! A wealth of information!
@youtubecensorsmycomments9993
5 жыл бұрын
You said the Natufian people kept their culture until about 11,500 years ago, and before that about 12,000 years ago they were cultivating in Turkey. These dates coincide with the younger Dryas cataclysm that ended the ice age, and the date given for when Atlantis (Atlas's city) was washed into the sea.
@Survivethejive
5 жыл бұрын
KZitem Censors My Comments no natufians were in levant 14k ago, turkey was ENF
@youtubecensorsmycomments9993
5 жыл бұрын
@@Survivethejive You missed what I was trying to say. I don't expect my comments to get through, but that one did, I'll give more detail and hope this one isn't made invisible or edited. During the Younger Dryas the world's temperature plunged, and when it rose the ice age was over. 95% of megafauna in North America went extinct, and fields of mammoths have been found mostly with their legs broken and some with food still in their mouths. A crater has been found in greenland from an impact about 12,000 years ago. There are things like glass and nano-diamonds in an area around the impact as far as south America and north Africa. North's America's ice sheet melted and the sea rose. The Ricart structure seems to be Atlantis. There are ruins underwater by India.
@youtubecensorsmycomments9993
5 жыл бұрын
@@Survivethejive So if there was any evidence of farming below what's now sea level then that will be hard.
@thomassheridanii2118
7 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this. But how does this explain why the megalithic sites on the far west of Ireland and in Orkney are much, much older than Stonehenge? If FEF migration was exclusively east to west?
@nomansland5113
3 жыл бұрын
What incredibly beautiful music at the end, truly unique.
@CostantinoVercetti
5 жыл бұрын
On a related note, what was the geography and flora of the near east at the age of the Natufians? Was it already largely desert?
@Survivethejive
5 жыл бұрын
the fertile crescent isnt a desert. it was perfect for farming
@CostantinoVercetti
5 жыл бұрын
@@Survivethejive sorry I misphrased, I meant besides the great rivers, was the rest of the land pretty desertified? Similar to Sahara perhaps back when it was less dry?
@yogatonga7529
Жыл бұрын
The Sardinian song reminds me of Georgian polyphony.
@alcibiadescleinias6066
7 жыл бұрын
What kind of tea? Are we talkin darjeeling here? Smoked? With milk because chai would work better for me.
@captainl-ron4068
7 жыл бұрын
Alcibiades Cleinias green tea with lemon juice and honey........thank me later
@optimisticnihilist3417
2 жыл бұрын
so was the genesis of agriculture in the Levant strictly a product of their environment, or could any human population at the time hypothetically have begun collecting and selectively planting cereals wherever they were in the world with more or less the same results?
@Survivethejive
2 жыл бұрын
Environment was perfect. In fact the levantine HG's lived off wild harvested grains long before they domesticated them
@prometheus5770
2 жыл бұрын
As a Georgian this Sardinian singing always gives me chills. We the pre-Indo-European folks do really have a lot in common
@mmeatheaddd
7 жыл бұрын
very cool channel subbed :) being a white American i have always been interested in my "European roots". i been told im a mix of German Irish and "i think" some Scottish. im about 5'11 and weight 220 pounds very fit and muscular and can bench press over 420 pounds. i have very pale skin some freckle's green eyes and before i started shaving my head i had dark brown hair. most of my family have blond hair and blue eyes the rest has brown/black or red hair. i also have a large bone/lump on the back of my head and read something about that being a European thing? i live where we get alots of snow"and i mean lots" and it seems i do better in the snow then i do in the sun "sun burn sucks". if you have not done so already maybe you could do a video on us your white Americans cousins :) like i said i know im German/Irish and maybe some Scottish but who where they? i read that the irish and scottish have alot of the same dna as the old vikings do to them exploring and settling across Europe. like Dublin was a viking settlement correct?
@Vampire__Squid
5 жыл бұрын
I've heard that the bump on the back of your head was inherited from Neanderthals. Also as a white American, I'd encourage you to check out some EuroAmerican channels like "American Renaissance" and "Red Ice TV".
@L2Xenta
7 жыл бұрын
Im no expert but I dont get it .... what are the similarities between Sardinians - people of Balkan and Carpathians - and Scandinavians ? I see I2a1 massive haplogroup in Sardinia. I2a2 in high percent in Balkan & Carpathian , and I1 very dominant percent in Scandinavia. From what I knew at least they are branches from same "I" tree, but i1 is more recent. At least thats what ive read.
@Survivethejive
7 жыл бұрын
Adrian A haplogroups are not relevant
@L2Xenta
7 жыл бұрын
I guess im too newb, oh wells.
@jasonkern4651
7 жыл бұрын
The Y chromosome is the smallest chromosome of all the 46. It is useful for male lines of descent. Not for phenotype. Here is an image about which genes about our looks are on which chromosome: IMAGE: i.imgur.com/eCHmofD.png Note that the Y Chromosome has nothing compared to autosomal chromosomes. This is why there are some countries in west africa where black people have R1B and yet appear fully Bantu. Y Haplogroups are relevant for somethings, and irrelevant for others.
@L2Xenta
7 жыл бұрын
@Jason Kern ah thanks, interesting. p.s. Even so. Of course this only leads to more questions :D.
@at0micwerew0lf
5 жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff, that. I've never explored these very early chapters of our collective history.
@TheAlaskansandman
3 жыл бұрын
So is the throat singing done by Sardinians related to the throat singing done by the Mongols? Both part of the early farmers? Or separate?
@Survivethejive
3 жыл бұрын
Separate
@codychurch5920
4 жыл бұрын
I just recently discovered, I belong to the E-V13 paternal haplotype. My autosomal dna indicates that I am ' of 99% british ancestry, and 1% south eastern Germanic'. I cluster most closely with people on the southern coast of Britain. Apparently my male lineage is linked to EEF, and it is quite the shock to me. I was a bit disappointed that I didn't have a Steppe paternal lineage, but now I'm just trying to understand more. I don't feel any less 'Indo-European' however.🤣
@Survivethejive
4 жыл бұрын
Most Neolithic british had i2 tho
@Leo-us4wd
4 жыл бұрын
Yh same with me, isn't the E - V13 common ancestor quite recent?
@crypticreality8484
Жыл бұрын
May I inquire?: The Natufian Y-DNA samples have shown to be haplogroup E. EEF/ENF samples are haplogroup G (and I2 as we see a later resurgence). How do you reconcile haplogroup G being associated with agricultural spread if it also appears the E is an original farmer lineage? I'm not critiquing you... I greatly appreciate your videos as I have been into archaeo-genetics for 15 years. I am just curious as to when you believe haplogroup E arrived into Europe. Obviously we see it in Spain and Greece/Balkans. Do you believe haplogroup E is older than G in Europe? I am haplogroup R1b-U152 z56 and K1a1 btw.
@Survivethejive
Жыл бұрын
E can come from arabs and africans later on too
@crypticreality8484
Жыл бұрын
@@Survivethejive Yes, but... I mean there have been Neolithic samples in Croatia, Hungary and Spain. Do you think E travelled alongside G and did better in certain areas due to a 'founder effect' success? I just find it strange that G is dispersed somewhat uniformly at low rates in most of Europe while E tends to be more localized. Oh.... in case you're curious like me... and interested.... on FTDNA, I have 12% Metal Age Invader DNA, 40% Hunter Gatherer and 48% Farmer. Autosomally I am 50% British and Irish... roughly half and half and close to 40% Rhine German. The area that the Tencteri and Sugambri lived. I have a small amount of Broadly Northwest European and Italian which is the Y- chromosome I carry. Z56+ like a couple of samples from ancient Roman men.
@PantheraCat
Жыл бұрын
Ev13 came with the neolithic farmers, and it dates back thousands of years, and it's associated with indo-european expansion too.
@PantheraCat
Жыл бұрын
@@Survivethejive How? Ev13 is only in Europe.
@Jorge-xf9gs
3 ай бұрын
Did these farmers also spread through north africa?
@JorvikBerserkir
3 жыл бұрын
Do I hear Fashwave? Based.
@spindlegrinder
7 жыл бұрын
Wish I could add a picture here of my gedmatch results, I get 52% Baltic hunter gatherer, 34.62% Mediterranean farmer,11.52% Anatolian farmer, ancestry English, Scottish, Irish, Belgian, French and Scandinavian, blue eyes brown hair red beard 99.9% European
@dleechristy
6 жыл бұрын
Mine (all grandparents old Russian Empire in Europe, some known distant German ancestry too, likely some "Polish" as some borders in flux, but no paper proof). Blonde blue/grey eyes Anatolian Farmer 6.85 Baltic Hunter Gatherer 67.69 Middle Eastern Herder 1.63 North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 1.57 Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.84 Mediterranean Farmer 21.43 Oceanian interesting, makes no sense based on distance and history - On most other tests that is NOT seen but some fractional percentage attributed instead to "Yakut" or "Siberian" which makes MORE sense. I suspect that have some minor weird or archaic DNA they don't know what to do with or their world wide samples for reference populations are not yet complete enough... But if somehow I'm a fractional percent Polynesian or Melanesian etc with all grandparents in European Russia, I'm cool with that.
@hervelegall6918
7 ай бұрын
Beautiful chant
@Lexrockstheblock
2 жыл бұрын
Do any of the studies that look at sardinians also look at balearic islanders?
@doneuplikeakipper6512
3 жыл бұрын
I dont understand why they dont teach you about all this stuff and migrations at school. They tell you about HG and EEF as if it was the same people, in the same place, for tens of thousands of years, that just slowly develop technology. Its so much boring. You dont even know that massive migrations happened that changed everything
@renewingthemind2789
6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the Neolithic farmers spoke something ancestral to Basque.... Or alternatively, perhaps they spoke something related to Kartvelian in Georgia
@mikesemon7392
7 жыл бұрын
Your history lessons impressive and informative. I know you could never explain the Basque region or their ancient language. Indo-European is the typical easy way out of real debate.
@dleechristy
6 жыл бұрын
You can only know what you know. Basque language needs more study, but because PIE became so ubiquitous, it got a TON of study. As for Basque genetics, they share some with other Iberians but also have some uniqueness. Unlike the Sardinians, they weren't on an island, so they share a good amount with their neighbors
@elizabethshaw734
4 жыл бұрын
Are you aware of the Stone circles made in a cave in France by Neanderthals?
@-dd1030
7 жыл бұрын
If Sardinians are genetically identical to the Natufians and ENF, would that imply that ancient hebrews and semitics wuz hu-white?
@belstar1128
7 жыл бұрын
They would be pretty close.
@c3cxla
7 жыл бұрын
No, Sardinians are part WHG
@Savo1312
7 жыл бұрын
You missed the point the ENF were changed by their WHG elements racially in Anadolia, so not really they didnt looked as the original Natufians. Also Every north African has Subsaharan Admixture plus, so the look of the Natufians is probably found at the whitest Arabs or some shit
@Survivethejive
7 жыл бұрын
they are not like Natufians - look at the PCA. EEF and sardinians have WHG
@stevenrowlandson4258
7 жыл бұрын
The real question is are Natufians related to Semites or do they predate the Semites? It is possible that Semites/ Hebrews arrived on the scene much later and the pro European humanity types can relax. Except for references to civilizations run by us in the bible the Bible isn't about us and the BI and CI hypothesis is bunk. We predate the Bible.
@redbeardsbirds3747
5 жыл бұрын
I am only 0.6% Sardinian according to 23andMe..but proud of it nonetheless! Don't let my profile name fool you ( long story..I am not genetically Spanish) ...I am predominantly a British Isles American! I also have 0.8% Finnish DNA..proud of it also! :) I think we might have similar beard genetics eh ? lol
@Ejeby
2 жыл бұрын
5:30 sardegnians on a principal component analysis chart
@apo.7898
5 жыл бұрын
EEFs, were speaking pre-Indo-Uralic. Old Europe was IndoUralic. The northern IE groups had extra WHG admixture (like the Globular Amphora Culture). Uralic spread east with the Seima-Turbino phenomenon.
@apo.7898
5 жыл бұрын
And Mongolian has very obvious typological similarities with West Eurasian languages, imho. One Mongolian MyHeritage result I saw had traces of Finnish like and Scandinavian like ancestry and significant Central Asian like ancestry.
@audunedvinmagnussen9894
Жыл бұрын
I'm nor sure about what language the EEF spoken? I think it might be the ancestral language to Tyrsenian (Etruscan, Rhaetic and Lemninan) i only guess im not sure.
@hithere_1967
6 жыл бұрын
fantastic video!
@cristerowarrior1450
5 жыл бұрын
The Sardinians sounds like a Greek Orthodox Church
@wonderlandian8465
4 жыл бұрын
Not at all tho....
@tiberiusmagnificuscaeser4929
7 жыл бұрын
1:24 Oy vey
@jglammi
7 жыл бұрын
the gains were not cultivated in"Turkey". There were no Turks there until much much later when they invaded Anatolia
@ninairish597
7 жыл бұрын
"Human race" no such thing
@liamod3730
6 жыл бұрын
aye no such thing.
@darkoneforce2
6 жыл бұрын
Sardinians from isolated places are almost EEF, not the average Sardinians.
@rudynathan8852
5 жыл бұрын
We are all mixed race
@NannyMAU
2 жыл бұрын
Where they the dark skinned blue eyes like Cheddar Man? How do you know who built Gopi or Stonehedge ?
@Survivethejive
2 жыл бұрын
No those are the WHG
@Pejannator
6 жыл бұрын
What haplogroup would you connect to the migration of EEF?
@Survivethejive
5 жыл бұрын
The analysis of Early Neolithic genomes from Anatolia by Mathieson et al. (2015) shows that I2c (L596) was already present in north-western Turkey 8,500 years ago, and had been assimilated by the Neolithic farmers on their way from the Fertile Crescent to Europe. Various ancient DNA studies conducted between 2014 and 2016 revealed that all Mesolithic European lineages became absorbed by the wave of Neolithic farmers. Yet I2a stood out as the most common among them, amounting to 16% of the 69 Neolithic Y-DNA samples tested. That places it as the second most common paternal lineage after G2a, the original lineage lineage of Anatolian farmers.
@jl9211
6 жыл бұрын
Stop calling it Turkey
@michaelwhite8031
6 жыл бұрын
My hapolagroup is I-m223 does that conect me to Sardinians
@kshu3onku505
7 жыл бұрын
Europe is rich and our education system so poor. I got my liberal indoctrination in school but none of our history. Thank your so much for your videos!!
@SmippeHyrst
7 жыл бұрын
So what exactly classes as 'northern European' then, would that be anything stretching from Iceland and the British Isles over to Russia, with the likes of the French being intermediate? I'd be interested to know your view on the old Slavic / Germanic divide, since members of both groups engage in pissing contests as to who is more quintessentially 'white European'. I've encountered Poles who claim their own people are more native to Europe than Germans (and of course vice-versa). polishgenes.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/poles-more-indigenous-to-europe-than.html
@Survivethejive
7 жыл бұрын
You can class "North European" differently in accordance with history or geography but in this video I just meant genetics and in that sense the PCA charts. The line between that "North" Euro goes through France and the Balkans. All North slavic peoples cluster with North and North Western Europeans. Some South Slavs cluster with Southern Europeans.
@dleechristy
6 жыл бұрын
Turns out the Germanic/Slav divide is more language and culture than DNA, esp with so many descendants of "Slav" tribes of old now speaking and thinking themselves as "German" (not just Prussians but all over eastern parts of Germany) and so much "German" DNA found in parts of Poland. And as Tom points out, the Slavs may share the language, but there is a pronounced North-South genetic divide among them. The east-west divide (Poland vs Russia, Belarus, Ukr) is about the religious split (cultural) as for any individual, it could be tough to figure if they are from Warsaw. Smolensk or Lvov. They may hate each other stupidly but they are very closely related from Poland, Slovakia across the plain eastward. Don't have the link handy but geneticists have noticed that northern slavs are surprisingly more homogeneous than other supposed large groupings like "Celts" or "Germanic". It's been posited that it's due to a more recent population explosion/expansion in the early centuries AD, not BC
@fractalshift
6 жыл бұрын
Great explanation ...the Neolithic period is very confusing...
@somefuckstolemynick
2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video mate!
@andreaporcherifracasseddu1768
6 жыл бұрын
I can't belive that someone who isn't Sardinian is interested in our people and our folk music "cantu a tenore" it's strange !!! Usually we're considered like normal Italians by other people but it isn't, we're completely different from them 'cause we've a different lenguage, traditions and way of thinking from the other people. So... Thank you so much for the video you are the only one in KZitem that talk so nicely about this.
@andreaporcherifracasseddu1768
6 жыл бұрын
Kind of things
@nthavotelcam4112
5 жыл бұрын
I want to go there kinda learn about myself because I’m French also I love pasta so early farmers brought grain which without it pasta would never exist so thank you and I happy that I have Natufian DNA in me. Go Natufians! I actually heard Sardinian music before too and I wanted to learn where throat singing came from so you have something beautiful.
@gio7799
5 жыл бұрын
@Roseki aren't you proud of having Etruscan origins? 😁
@wulver810
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, Sardinia is bad ass compared to Tuscany.
@kalashnikov5544
4 жыл бұрын
@@andreaporcherifracasseddu1768 Albanians and Greeks have that folk music as well, but we have different clothing. Southern Italians, Greeks, and Albanians are genetically related.
@Alesxandros
6 жыл бұрын
TRADUCTION of the chant..."Never in my mind to go in rome as a slave, to admire the Ceasars in their faces who has written an epic history, the descendant of ancient Enea gifted the scepter to the papal tiara, the city of Giove (jupiter) and Marte (mars) gave the trone to saint Peter, i prefer the mountains instead of the monuments, i prefer the flowers to the paintings, i prefer my countryside instead of the big city, contemplating my solitude, no noise can distract me, in the reign of beatitude".
@Alesxandros
6 жыл бұрын
Another interesting thing...the place of origins of these chants is an internal mountainous region of sardinia called barbagia...named "barbaria" by the romans "land of barbarians", because of the fierceness of the people who always refused roman colonization ...romans really never conquered this place for some main reasons, the relative strategic importance of the region, the poorness of raw materials, the difficult environment and the hostility of the barbaricini people...romans were mostly settled on the coastal area of sardinia leaving barbagia alone to its destiny, that's why ancient pagan rituality of barbagia are still alive and the ancient nuragic culture is still living.
@karphin1
4 жыл бұрын
Ales Sandro Thanks for that, the singing is lovely, so powerful! Ancient people, still keeping their history alive. Bravo!
@louispellissier914
4 жыл бұрын
it's beauiful
@karl-arnal
3 жыл бұрын
wow
@pablolloyd1450
3 жыл бұрын
those are some pretty badass and presumably SUPER ancient lyrics. thanks for translating man
@geggypolemica
7 жыл бұрын
The fact that Sardinian is the closest language to Latin speaks volumes about the isolation of the place
@eurosensazion
6 жыл бұрын
What? Latin and proto-Latin came from the languages of Greek and Etruscan which got their alphabet from the Phoenicians. They were more in contact with peoples of southern mainland Greece, Crete, Cyprus and Phoenicians.
@palermotrapani9067
5 жыл бұрын
@@DaiaeIsBae No, Italian is, French in terms of vocabulary is next, The Catalan dialect of Spanish is 3rd, then Sardinian (all of which are > 80% positively correlated with Latin).
@palermotrapani9067
5 жыл бұрын
@@DaiaeIsBae Sardinian is closest to the Vulgar Latin, which I Saint Jerome translated from Greek. I would also add that the Sicilian Language, it is a language, not a dialect, may be almost as close as Sardinian to Latin. Sicilian is 56% directly from Latin, and 13% from Spanish, French Dialects 6%, Catalan 2% and Provencal 2% (a French-Italian dialect in NW Italy). So indirectly Sicilian is about 80% directly or indirectly tied to Latin. But Sicilian also has a heavy Greek component , about 15% and a minor Arabic component, 1-3 (and those words are tied to agriculture and foods that the Saracens introduced).
@palermotrapani9067
5 жыл бұрын
@andria colonna I think other than Standard Italian (Florentine Tuscan Dialect) Sicilian is the 2nd most spoken followed by Neopolitan. Of course as someone of Sicilian ancestry, I can honestly say that none other than Dante praised the beauty of the Sicilian Italian and it was instrumental in shaping the sound and structure of what he wrote in is writings.
@Phantasos25
4 жыл бұрын
@@palermotrapani9067 Just bullshits, Sardinian is the closest to Latin and you can read it in every linguistics book. We preserve even the original pronunciation of Latin with hard sounds like chelu (Kelu) from Latin Caelum or Chentu (kentu) from Latin Centum unlike Italian and other romance languages. Ponemj tres panes in bertula (Sardinian) Pone mihi tres panes in bertula (Latin), Hodje est una bella die (Sardinian) - Hodie pulchra die est ( Latin) - Oggi è una bella giornata (Italian).
@leornendeealdenglisc
7 жыл бұрын
Wow. Very interesting video, Tom! :) Thank you for using my song.
@ASMRconKiki
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video, I finally get to understand a bit more about Nothern and Southern europeans, and where we come from. Sardinians look indeed different, it's fascinating to know that they actually look like the early european farmers. Buona serata da Roma!
@hollander6965
7 жыл бұрын
Nice channel miss:)
@Reed679
6 жыл бұрын
Most Sardinians dont look much different from the other southern Europeans actually..Also the samples he used came from isolated village in the mountains of Barbagia
@aa2220
3 жыл бұрын
His people wiped out your people.
@imurt3417
3 жыл бұрын
@@aa2220 wdym?
@andremedeiros2991
3 жыл бұрын
*Corsica
@stelios-1821
7 жыл бұрын
I wish you was using the term Anatolia instead of Turkey because as you know, Turkey is recent.
@Vasil_Hristov
7 жыл бұрын
Oh, so it doesn't have anything to do with the fact the people who live in Turkey are Turks Dominic? :D
@liamod3730
6 жыл бұрын
agreed Turkey is recent. Like calling Britain Britistan
@c7724
6 жыл бұрын
The Turks came to Anatolia in 1071. Turkey isnt recent .
@1nopoint
6 жыл бұрын
Central Asian =/= Turkic The original inhabitants of Central Asian(The 'Stan' Countries) were Iranian Peoples(Scythians, Sarmatians, and Alans). The invading Turks came from Northwest Mongolia and mixed with the Native Iranian People of Central Asia. Actual Turkic DNA on tests would come up as Mongolian or Yakut. A Turk from a Kyrgyzstan would come up as half Central Asian(Native East Iranian) and half East Asian(Mostly Mongolian). A Turkish person from Turkey will have about 15% Central Asian(East Iranian) DNA but little to no actual Turkic(East Asian) DNA.
@klaudiom.5878
6 жыл бұрын
And anatolia is just 1000 yrs older (butthurt greek maybe?)... And the turkic people originate from the meeting borders of Mongolia, China , Russia, Kazakhstan. The people there have nearly 50 % european dna and their ancient religion (tengrism) is extremely similar to the proto-indoeuropean one. Finally, turks liberated europe from christianity by destroying the corrupt byzantine empire and ended 1000 years of tyrrany and ignorance. Europe owes turks a great deal. Im not turkish btw...
@drfarzamafshar
5 жыл бұрын
Survive the Jive, I absolutely admire you brother! I know you get a lot of comments about being "racist" and not liking Southern Europeans or anyone who is not "white," but it is out of their ignorance that they make such comments. I am a Persian Zoroastrian and have always been proud of my Persian ancestry and my Zoroastrian background, but I have also been told it is not good or appropriate to be proud of these things because it causes "divisions." I do not see anything wrong with being proud of who and what we are and of our ancestors while appreciating and accepting others and who and what they are as well! You and The Golden One are awesome. I live in the United States and often I find that even though "whites" in the United States of European background are the majority, they are trampled when they are proud of their background. It is sad, but often these people are treated as "racist," when they associate with Asatru or Celtic Paganism etc. It is OK to be "white" and it is OK to be proud of your background and your origins and your ancestors! A racist is a person who thinks ONLY their "race" is the best. You and The Golden One have NEVER done such a thing. You both have always gone above and beyond to show how you appreciate diversity and how various cultures are linked as you demonstrated in this video. Keep doing what you are doing and keep being who you are! I am proud to be Persian, I am proud to be Zoroastrian, I am proud to be a mix of neolithic and Indo-European of Iran and even more proud to be distant kin with you and The Golden One! Cheers!
@moitoboi2970
4 жыл бұрын
I second that. I have mixed Slavic and Germanic, as well as I suspect some Celtic roots. I'm a European Man by Nature, living in America. That is a fact. It's never healthy for any Human to be cut off from their roots, their piety, their history. No great friendships are forged and maintained, WITHOUT knowing Who and What you are. "Being simple Is" Cheers and Slava rodu!
@moitoboi2970
4 жыл бұрын
@blueflame I understand where you're coming from, I used to have similar misconceptions. However, It is not at all a given that I need to make any distinction when I declare pride for my European roots. Look at it this way, would anyone give a Mongol rules about what he can or cannot take pride in within his own heritage? Given the history of genocide they unleash on Asia the Middle East and Europe. He has much more to atone for the I do, according to these cultural rules. You could make a similar case with the Arabs, how were FAR more brutal in their treatment of African slaves, and certainly never fought wars on their behalf or paid any amount of reparations.
@patriziasforza8484
4 жыл бұрын
It's an honor to find some Zoroastrian people, they are not so many because of Islam 😢 Persian men and women are of rare beauty, be proud of it.
@Floral_Green
4 жыл бұрын
blueflame ‘Racism’ was conceived as a term for a subversive elite to socially shame wh*tes, nothing else. It’s ultimately an attempt to pathologise the biological function properly known as ‘in-group preference’ strictly against European-descended peoples, and is something that no self-respecting person should take seriously. The idea that we’re uniquely at fault for conquest or slavery - the process by which every nation was formed and a practice that’s taken place since time immemorial, respectively - is incredibly moronic, not to mention historically illiterate. That said, chauvinism toward other groups isn’t desirable for anybody, and if such a thing were ever to be mitigated, then separation and homogeneity is the optimal arrangement. Multi-r*cial societies have an atrocious track record, and for good reason. Contrary to what contemporary platitudes would have us believe, animosity toward other groups isn’t borne out of ‘fear’ or ‘lack of contact’, but exposure and forced proximity on a massive scale. If, like myself, somebody truly appreciates and is interested in experiencing vastly different cultures, then we can immerse ourselves in them properly by visiting them for ourselves.
@moitoboi2970
4 жыл бұрын
@@Floral_Green Couldn't agree more, "racism" is strictly an anti-white term. In group preference is allowed and encouraged for everyone but Europeans/their descendants
@Survivethejive
7 жыл бұрын
*12k years of history made simple* Anatolian Hunter Gatherer (AHG) AHG+ WHG = Neolithic Europe (EEF) ANE->EHG + CHG = PIE PIE + EEF = *Modern Europeans*
@jasonkern4651
7 жыл бұрын
For those that are confused maybe this image can help visualise: IMAGE: i.imgur.com/hoyvzLD.jpg I included Jive's quote because it is a very good concise summary
@Survivethejive
7 жыл бұрын
Black Swordsman Guts both natufian and eef are made from whg and basal eurasian but eef has more whg
@mikesemon7392
7 жыл бұрын
Survive the Jive Explain the R1b y-chromosone please. You're very informative.
@swevixeh
7 жыл бұрын
ANE-Derived (its immediate ancestor, R1*, was found among ANEs in the Mal'ta-Buret' culture). The same is true for R1a. Both spread out of the steppes with the Indo-European dispersals, except for R1b-V88 (mainly found around Central Africa), which seems to have spread at an earlier date.
@mikesemon7392
7 жыл бұрын
swevixeh Interesting. 80% of Basque carry that gene. 60% Irish, 40% in Whales and Scotland and 20% in a few other regions. It's most red hair or blonde people's.
@A_Koenig
7 жыл бұрын
Confirmed: Huwheat Fields changed human history.
@madeinengland1212
7 жыл бұрын
anglo-saxon pronunciation of course.
@renewingthemind2789
6 жыл бұрын
Rex Paganus "pull yourself together Dr Murdoch, just because she has a black friend doesn't mean she's been blacked. OH GOD THE WHEAT FIELDS!"
@cybersasho
7 жыл бұрын
Much love to all fellow Europeans from Bulgaria. Stay strong brothers.
@nondvcordvco4244
4 жыл бұрын
IYI
@zoscarrhoads7741
3 жыл бұрын
Why?
@fiddleback1568
2 жыл бұрын
And sisters.
@brucekish7576
2 жыл бұрын
One of my beer brewing books has a map of Europe depicting the climate line across northern France and central Germany, depicting the northern limit through where grapes could grow. All cultures to the south centered around wine production and consumption while those to the north revolved around brewing beer and distilling spirits.
@SolarpunkEnjoyer
10 ай бұрын
What book, may I ask?
@brucekish7576
10 ай бұрын
@@SolarpunkEnjoyer "Mastering Homebrewing" by Randy Mosher
@redtony58
7 жыл бұрын
I don't know why people would think you don't like southern europeans, you look nothing like Varg. The big problem is that people want a simple, straight forward explanation. When Marija Gimbutas postulated a goddess cult for northern european neolithic agricultural (Yeah Cordedware!!!) people, it immediately was turned into some kind of feminist utopia destroyed by the evil male dominated Aryan. The truth is that we know (from the Vedas) that the domesticated horse and cattle and the wheel were important to, and martial virtue became MORE important when settled agriculture displaced hunter gathering. It was both cooperation and conquest that created the modern european. We begin our recorded history about 3,000 years ago and that is mostly in southern europe. People could have interacted much more (although not genetically because of limited people, resources, time and distance, -think sea people or solutrians and perhaps Gobleki Tepe as a gathering point) in the previous 5,000 years. The way that fundamental myths are constructed leads me to think that there is a broader commonality that (although not genetic) goes back much further. For example, the bull is an important symbol in Cretan (Iranian)culture and remained so in Greece and still does in India. An early levant culture (I forget which) had a bull god ''Tauru'' Romance languages today still use words derived from that for bull. My family name is very much like those words, but it specifically means aurochs (there's another word for domesticated cattle.) That's a borrowing or a foundational idea and could be pre-agricultural. When you look at early agricultural societies in northern or southern europe the commonalities are more striking than the differences.
@ridanzswerd215
6 жыл бұрын
look at it his way. the thing that distinguishes europeans from the middle east is their hunter gatherer admixture. but this is only in low % in southern europeans and eef. its in way higher % in the yamna in form of eastern hunter gatherer admixture which means that the highest concentration of hunter gahterer admixture is found in northern europe. add to this that southern europe has many additional admixtures from west asia and north africa.
@Dryfee
5 жыл бұрын
Gelenis Vilkas "When you look at early agricultural societies in northern or southern europe the commonalities are more striking than the differences." Yet most people here want to focus on the differences.
@TheSlimshady1919
4 жыл бұрын
ridanz swerd also Southern Europeans like Italians and Greeks have 1-3% sub Saharan admixture. This likely happened during the Rome period and Islamic times in southern Italy and Greece. Northern Europeans don't have this. All east Mediterranean also have a slight East African affinity through having middle eastern blood.
@c3cxla
7 жыл бұрын
The throat singing is called polyphonic singing, we have that in Georgia too.
@klmsps5576
7 жыл бұрын
Levan T It also exists in southern Albania
@Survivethejive
7 жыл бұрын
it is called overtone singing. not all polyphonic singing is overtone singing
@c3cxla
7 жыл бұрын
Survive the Jive Yeah you are right, but it's more commonly called polyphonic singing for some reason.
@otagoransome9270
7 жыл бұрын
Frikin Ninja hi, how is it called?
@otagoransome9270
7 жыл бұрын
Levan T as it is done by more than one voice, it is polyphonic, and overtone as in this type of singing every singer/voice keeps always the same tone during al the song. So, in Sardinian "canto a tenore" you always have 1 lead singer and three "voices": bass, baritone and contralto. Always 4 men. This type of singing his generally associated with pastoral life. How is the Georgian one?
@k2m524
7 жыл бұрын
In the final, South Europeans, Central Europeans, East Europeans, Western Europeans and North Europeans are Europeans and they are WHITE. I would like to see a video about Dacians and Romanians, would be interesting.
@andrewmcneil6668
7 жыл бұрын
Is Middle Eastern culture the same as European culture? The answer to that goes a long way in answering your question.
@usedx115x
7 жыл бұрын
Asking if Middle Eastern people are White is like asking if East Asians are Turkic. The answer is that despite significant genetic overlap, there is a different culture and a significant genetic divergence, so that most people would say it doesnt really make sense to use such a description.
@MrMrMrMrHoopz
7 жыл бұрын
like the whole east of europe was dominated by iranian and later turkic people for a couple thousand years, way longer then slavs have been there. But hey, you probably never opened a history book.
@Survivethejive
7 жыл бұрын
bangtu hauptilagie you can see on the pca that they are distinct from europeans
@Kingtheropodking
7 жыл бұрын
Hi, you may be interested in seeing more recently uploaded video about the ancient southern Europeans. Meyerhoff (2013) mentions genetic studies that show the ancient Thracians (who where also related to there neighbors the Dacians) are biologically southern Europeans. However, it notes that Romanians today are more distant to there ancient ancestors. kzitem.info/news/bejne/uG6jzmR4iX5_d44
@xxxfirehuunterxxx
7 жыл бұрын
People are more interested in being white or separating closely related people due to their supposed non-white lineage, rather than learning about different groups that populated our continent. Rather than for knowledge and understanding, but for agendas. Sad. Nice video Tom however, loving your content.
@tomatensoup190
5 жыл бұрын
@@gazthejaz8910 americans and theie stupid demographic approach
@kalashnikov5544
5 жыл бұрын
@@tomatensoup190 All Europeans want to unite, but the J3wz want to genocide us instead. We can't relate to blacks, Arabs, and Asians at all. And I'm from the Mediterranean.
@mweskamppp
5 жыл бұрын
Its a wide spectrum of a melting pot. Some people just dont want to get it.
@tomatensoup190
5 жыл бұрын
@@kalashnikov5544 yes but in the us you wouldn't even be considered white. That's my problem with us demographics.
@kalashnikov5544
5 жыл бұрын
@@tomatensoup190 IDC if Germanics and Northern Europeans don't see me as "white". "White" is a shade. Mediterraneans are still phenotypically European, but might be tan from the sun. You got some people that look like they're from the Levant area, you also got a little bit of Mongol blood from the Ottomans. Most can pass in any European country and can produce European children. All white countries are being overrun by blacks, Arabs, and Mestizos. The most attractive people in the Americas all have Mediterranean blood. Spanish, Portuguese, Italian. Mexican is not a race same as Brazilian or any other ethnicity is not a race.
@kwaaikat100
3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Absolutely fascinating. After having watched it a while ago, I watched it again. Now that I have developed a better understanding of WHG, EHG and EEF, I appreciate it even more! The EEF is a more ancient migration whose recognition was made possible by genetics (though it fits in with archeology). The IE migration has linguistics added to it (but probably less definative cultural change). But in both the convergence of different disciplines is amazing. Thanks for helping to unlock that.
@YamnayanVegan
7 жыл бұрын
BEAUTIFUL VIDEO! Gobekli Tepe is an astounding place. And there is a statue of a supposedly neolithic priest's head found in Nevali Çori (a place close to Gobekli Tepe). It seems like the statue has a Vedic hairstyle (sikha), which is very interesting imo, because in Vedic tradition pujaris (priest-like ritual performers) wear sikha. And this cattle thing... Probably not just ENF genes but also their beliefs affected Europe (and all Indo-European world).
@Survivethejive
7 жыл бұрын
Yamnayan Vegan but they weren’t indo-european
@YamnayanVegan
7 жыл бұрын
Of course, I know.
@cinsifrit9860
3 жыл бұрын
@@YamnayanVegan can this be related to "iranian farmers"
@unm0vedm0ver
7 жыл бұрын
That Sardinian throat singing made me think of all the really ancient temples with amazing acoustic qualities, I wouldn't doubt they'd been sued for entering into a trance like state.
@cadarnf1587
7 жыл бұрын
Those men singing are the Tenore Supramonte from Orgosolo, throat singing or as it goes in Sardinia "cantu a tenore" got to survive till these days almost as intact as it was in the sardinian nuragic era (iron age) in the mountains region of Barbagia transmitted by family to family. It existed even an all female version tied to Birth and matriarchal rites but unfortunately there are no traces of it anymore to be found
@cadarnf1587
6 жыл бұрын
you're welcome! if you ever visit Sardinia and manage to see them or some other Group performing this live i promise it gives you the goosebumps
@theasparagus6367
6 жыл бұрын
The Nuragic era dates to the bronze age
@cadarnf1587
6 жыл бұрын
The asparagus you're right lapsus
@kalashnikov5544
5 жыл бұрын
@@cadarnf1587 We have it in Albania too. Maybe Southern Slavs do also.
@cadarnf1587
5 жыл бұрын
@@kalashnikov5544 that's very interesting to know! I'll check it out!
@Myrkskog
7 жыл бұрын
00:14 Kettle's on.
@LN_997
7 жыл бұрын
Very Indo-European
@swevixeh
7 жыл бұрын
The farmers in Europe actually outperformed their Levantine and Mesopotamian cousins: -The Vinca script (6th and 5th millennium BC) of the Starcevo culture in the Balkans predates the Sumerian and Phoenecian scripts. -The settlements of the Cucuteni-Trypillia culture were the largest in the world during the mid 4th millennium BC, dwarfing the contemporary Sumerian cities of Ur and Uruk (Source: David Anthony, "The Horse, the Wheel and Language ", p. 264). The idea that ancient Europe was backwards and owes everything to the Middle East is nothing short of a lie.
@Survivethejive
7 жыл бұрын
swevixeh that’s later
@MrEVAQ
7 жыл бұрын
First off, the Vinca symbols are still undeciphered, and may or may not have been writing. Secondly, the Vinca script would've predated Indo-European migration into Europe, and so the Vinca script would've been the product of Neotholic Middle Eastern migrants.
@Vasil_Hristov
7 жыл бұрын
"Vinca script would've been the product of Neotholic Middle Eastern migrants." How do you make this conclusion? The genes of Balkan Slavs and Romanians are predominantly I2 - hunter gatherer.
@MrEVAQ
7 жыл бұрын
Vasil Hristov I said Indo-Europeans, not Europeans
@MrEVAQ
7 жыл бұрын
@wrongfully convicted What is Arrata?
@setnakhtekera4259
5 жыл бұрын
Greetings from an E1b1b1b Levantine Natufian ;)
@ambitiousamerikaner9861
7 жыл бұрын
Nice use of Xurious's track "Huwheat Fields"!
@kristokirov
7 жыл бұрын
Thunder Squatch yeah, I caught that too!
@jmoneymaker96
5 жыл бұрын
The french seem to be right in the middle of the southern/northern european boundary. I would guess southern france is southern european and northern france is more northern european.
@liberoAquila
3 жыл бұрын
Serbia too, some of us look like Poles, some of us look like Greeks.
@medaf9
2 жыл бұрын
It is actually the case, upper from the Loire. The DNA of French people is closer to northwest European such as English, Dutch, Welsh people. It is where the EEF and the Yamnya starts to balance. Where south of the Loire, the EEF is higher usually a bit higher
@NiteDriv3r
2 жыл бұрын
FRENCH SERBIANS MOLDOVANS ARE THE NORTH SOUTH TRANSITIONAL POPULATIONS
@giovanni-cx5fb
7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video. I love that, despite your passion about the subject, you don't speculate for the sake of attributing grandeur or mystifying the roots of Europeans. History, the study of history and human population dynamics through genetics, paleontology and the connection between these two don't need any further embellishment. Props for keeping it factual and exciting.
@elisabethsphilosophy6459
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, i would be interested in your opinion on Rh negative blood too!
@Survivethejive
7 жыл бұрын
I don't really have one, sorry!
@elisabethsphilosophy6459
7 жыл бұрын
Ah ok :p Im interested in it because its almost only found in Europeans.
@lucioinnocenzo2328
7 жыл бұрын
Elisabeth's philosophy so beautiful.
@joecosta8182
7 жыл бұрын
this video addresses some of the mythology of Rh negative blood which may or may not be true, still interesting nonetheless. kzitem.info/news/bejne/zamVwKiDanulrag
@AEye-zk2sb
7 жыл бұрын
Rh factor has to do with protection from taxoplasmosis. . Taxoplasmosis is carried by Cats (feces.. don't mess with while Pregnant) people with Negative have no protection Positive does. Is why Most people are positive as their ancestors have been exposed and passed on Protection for this .. it has Nothing to do with rhesus monkeys except that they also carry protection against cat feces and so when First found in human blood was given Name Rh for rhesus ;) hope that helps
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