This was not an easy video to make. And it took me a while to get it done. I really hope that it helps someone who else might have been vulnerable to these types of tactics. Stay safe all!
@elishatz1170
2 жыл бұрын
You said everything so well. The super anti-meds people annoy me because I’m off meds for my Tourette’s and it’s not because meds are horrible but because they weren’t worth it for me. I was having so many side effects and allergic reactions that I decided I’d rather deal with my tics. Meds can help and those not on them aren’t proof that they are horrible. Some people just don’t care that they have tics.
@boneitch
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Im also not on any medication for Touette's, just because I don't feel like I need it right now. I completely understand that people are hesitant when it comes to medications, esp some of the heavier meds. But that doesn't mean medication is evil.. I really hate that documentaries often portray it like that.
@unicornk1d
2 жыл бұрын
Watching bits of the documentary back makes it look even worse than the first time. I didn't fully notice how they paint doctors and established medicine to be entirely evil just to put their work on a pedestal. And I saw a lot of the guilt tripping and especially the gaslighting, but the way they make it seem like the people who tic are the problem and responsible for everyones pain, how its just their flawed thinking not based in reality, is... so sad, dangerous, and traumatic. I'm sad and frustrated Marc went down this rabbit hole because I used to see videos of him. No clue if he's been manipulated too, Im sure Keith knew what he was doing when he recruited a figure like him for his profit, but it's unfortunate he's a part of this either way. And you're right that they had chances to take this into a good direction. Its just corrupt from the top down. Anywho, I have so many thoughts, but I've been anticipating this video! I saw the documentary when the views were very low (scary that its at 70k now). The only comment there was naively excited for this seemingly helpful new treatment. I worried that others wouldn't catch on to the abundant reds flags and wondered how obvious it was, so I left my comment to point it out. Funny seeing you reply, but I had some hope when you did because I knew you'd have good takes! Your insight has been great indeed. I really hope this pops up when the documentary comes up. Right now it only shows up if you add "nxivm" onto "my Tourette's documentary" while searching. Hopefully this gets traction so people don't fall down the wrong rabbit hole! Thanks for making this!
@boneitch
2 жыл бұрын
So glad you enjoyed it (enjoy might be the wrong word, but you know what I mean :P) I'm also sad for Marc. He still seems to support this whole thing to this day. And there must be others like him in that same position. Scary really. I didn't realise the views on the documentary are this high now. I also watched it at the start, and then I just downloaded it. But that's.. not good. Esp now that the dislike count is disappearing. Not everyone will read the comments.. I might have to try and make my videos meta data more similar to the documentary's. Clearly Im not good at that whole search optimization thing, cuz my views aren't great xD, but I can always give it a try...
@horaciothedesigner
2 жыл бұрын
I felt that well watching as well. Thanks to both of your comments in that video, it helped me see that my gut wasn't wrong. ( you and Boneitch ) I was feeling like damn am I really doing this to myself. Am I the problem.
@MsNationaltreasure
2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you touched on this because when I saw them barely talk about that in The vow I was like JESUS CHRIST they cannot be doing that and then they didn't talk about it anymore and I've been trying to find anything and everything on this and cannot understand how or why they would do all that lying about CURING tourrets.
@katelynma2244
2 жыл бұрын
I have had people try and take advantage of me or they think I mean what I'm ticking. I don't know a lot about cults but it's horrible that people can be in that situation.
@boneitch
2 жыл бұрын
That's awful! This whole NXIVM thing is an extreme, but sometimes it's the extremes that click.. idk. It took me over a month to make this video, and even though I've never been in this situation, it's def made me go like "Aaah that's why this one thing was messed up.."
@Psyolopher
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this! I have TS as well, and it's Good to see a proper breakdown of this film. I saw that documentary and I just felt a sense of anger and frustration. I couldn't even finish it. I feel bad for anyone who got manipulated into this, and it truly disgusts me to the core.
@boneitch
2 жыл бұрын
Im glad you liked it! And it took me a while to get through the whole thing as well. Im really happy it's done now though
@unicornk1d
2 жыл бұрын
32:56 Not gonna lie, I chuckled at that line. If anyone asks, I have "something you might call Tourette's or whatever." Definitely someone who knows what he's talking about by the way, enough to do all of this /s. Its just Tourette's or whatever, nothing that deep lol
@xandavidson1845
Жыл бұрын
OH MY GOSH!!! I didn’t know I made a documentary!!! So glad I checked the channel. You really outdid yourself Luca
@mojeanin
2 жыл бұрын
This is terrible. Thank you for making the video. Please take care of your mental health
@boneitch
2 жыл бұрын
It really is.. I didn't expect it to be so difficult to make this. Im def in the mood for some more lighthearted videos now :P
@roharider
Жыл бұрын
Wow this is well done. As a mother of a child with a genetic deletion, this really makes me 😡.
@boneitch
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! And I can def understand that! It still makes my blood boil
@mileswilkerson5928
2 жыл бұрын
I definitely understand skepticism to medication & psychiatric doctors. I've had awful experiences. GPs usually no nothing, and psychiatrists WILL push pills and overmedicate. There's a long history of psychiatric abuse. It's a legitimate fear and reaction. But NXIVM manipulated that reaction in order to recruit and do that same experimentation. The fright experiments make me more skeptical of psychiatric doctors if anything.
@muddywitch9016
Жыл бұрын
The fact that Renerie and Salzmen were deluded enough to think they were performing actual scientific experiments is horrifying.
@boneitch
Жыл бұрын
It is! The whole thing is just so tragic and terrifying
@petrichorbones
2 жыл бұрын
wow! i have watched illuminaughti's deep dive on this mlm cult but i had no idea about this aspect! thats insane ... they were for sure taking advantage of these individuals, makes me so sad. thank you for sharing
@boneitch
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there's so many aspects to this whole thing.. it's awful :-/
@stefanerusrex9119
6 ай бұрын
What I get out of the whole story is what worked on different Levels was some Kind of hypnotherapy. I think it was probably done by one to one Sessions, the rest was just cosmetics and marketing. So its possible that Hypnoses can work for some people and some Kind of torret. But its just what i think is a possiblity
@annjay2581
2 жыл бұрын
Wow this is a really good dissection of the "documentary", you explained a lot of things I couldnt put in words. Great work! This deserves more views
@boneitch
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Myladyinred999
Жыл бұрын
Wow, impressive work 👍
@boneitch
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@muddywitch9016
Жыл бұрын
Salzman was lucky to get away with only 3 years in prison. If all her dirty washing had been aired in court, I bet she would have got a longer prison sentence.
@boneitch
Жыл бұрын
True. Let's just hope that on her own she won't be this dangerous
@Andy-ks9lk
2 жыл бұрын
I am loving this video, you are very good at putting this together. I'm watching it bit by bit each day cause oof it's heavy
@boneitch
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! And I completely understand. It took me quite some time to make it as well. Take care
@junenovae
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I had no idea that existed ! That was a great video !
@boneitch
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!!
@horaciothedesigner
2 жыл бұрын
Came here after watching this doc. I love your videos and hope to start bringing awareness as well. I trust your videos and will not be looking into that treatment. It felt wrong well watching and I can see that it is bad. Thank you for your work. Also side question. Can you recommend how to find or get into the community like chats or meetups. I really want to meet others like ourselves who live with TS.
@boneitch
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! And I def recommend looking into whether there's a Tourettes association in your country. They often organise meetups and events. There might also be Facebook groups or Subreddits. Sometimes, the Tourettes Association of America also does online things. If you can't find anything from your country, perhaps you could contact one of the other tourettes associations from different countries, to see if they know of something in your area, or whether they have online meetups you could join remotely. Hope that helps :)
@horaciothedesigner
2 жыл бұрын
@@boneitch This does definitely help point me in the right direction. Thank you again for all your work and great videos.
@TheCMWProductions1
2 жыл бұрын
Oh, no. This is terrifying.
@boneitch
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Exactly.
@TheCMWProductions1
2 жыл бұрын
@@boneitch And I knew about this cult because of the Smallville actress but I didn't know about all the other stuff.
@boneitch
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheCMWProductions1 yeah it took me a while to connect the dots. And then i did. And then it took me like 2 months to research and write the video. Like i tried keeping a good balance of being real, but not overdoing it. But just reading all this stuff sucked...
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