England is the Cradle of Parliamentary Democracy.With a King or Queen! It is the best Democracy and the best Democratic Country in the World!
@user-ul9is6nn1v
6 жыл бұрын
πανέμορφο το Πολυχρόνιον του βασιλέως Κωνσταντίνου στην αρχή του βίντεο!
@rupert99
15 жыл бұрын
Τί υπέροχο φιλμ. Αναδεικνύει το μεγαλείο και την ευγένεια των Ελλήνων Βασιλέων. Ιδιαίτερα η φωτογραφία του ΑΜ Κωνσταντίνου ως ενδοξοτάτου Αρχιναυάρχου. Αν και τις περισσότερες από αυτές τις φωτογραφίες τις έχω και εγώ. Είθε να επιστρέψουν νικηφόροι.
@Jame243
16 жыл бұрын
PEACE! Yes! We have to accept things as they are now and live in Peace!
@veterangreekairsoft
10 жыл бұрын
ΖΗΤΩ Η ΕΛΛAΣ ,ΖΗΤΩ Η ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΟΜΈΝΗ ΔΗΜΟΚΡΑΤΊΑ, ΖΗΤΩ Ο ΒΑΣΙΛΕYΣ ΤΩΝ ΕΛΛHΝΩΝ!!!!
@rupert99
15 жыл бұрын
Where did you publish it? As far as Mountbatten is concerned, I have great repsect for the man, but his testimony does not tally with that of Lord Stamford, who claimed exactly the opposite.
@Jame243
15 жыл бұрын
OldAthenian you made me very happy with your reply! Thank you. You made me smile and feel very good! You are good and I am happy to find we agree with something. God,Good bless you! Health and Life to you!
@sylviaphryne
15 жыл бұрын
And ofcourse we shouldn't forget Makronesos and the other islands with similar facilities, all supervised by Mr DeGrecia's parents. GLORIOUS DAYS OF THE PAST: - I'm sure they make every Greek proud! Perhaps one day we'll feel as proud as you with our Quantanamo Bay facilities and the former inmate of the Betty Ford Clinic who conceived the idea of setting them up!
@rupert99
15 жыл бұрын
Churchill did his bit in the crucial summer of1940. He preserved Britain. He masterminded the defence. That is sufficient.
@dagmar1991
16 жыл бұрын
Mr James, one of the first things taught to school children about James II is that he was an absolute and ruthless monarch and kept a private army. It was too worrying to keep an army of professional soldiers during peace time. This was one of the charges against his father which resulted to his execution for high treason. He was also known, like Otto, for his especially instructed judges who were expected to find all those opposing him, guilty George Jeffreys being the most notorious.
@berethorwow
16 жыл бұрын
Πραγματικα συγκηνιτικο.Ζητω ο Βασιλιας!Ζητω η Ελλας!
@rupert99
15 жыл бұрын
The territorial integrity of the state precedes every other concern.
@lykauges
16 жыл бұрын
Yes the people loved Otto, and sent him where he came from to have some rest!
@Jame243
16 жыл бұрын
epameinindas13 thank you my good friend for the nice reply! And be happy! I respect the results of the democratic decision of the Majority of the Greek people to have a Democratic Republic,and not a Democrativ Monarchy. I am a Democratic Greek like you and your friends!! All the best for you my good friend!!!. I like your ancie
@ingridoctavia
16 жыл бұрын
I hope I answered your question. More sources available on request. There are also numerous Swedish publications on his collaboration with the dictators, but you will be able to find extracts in Greek translation.
@euridike88
15 жыл бұрын
It is significant that the Glücksburg regime allowed scenes of the film "McGuire Go Home" to be filmed in Athens in 1965 where a British major (Dirk Bogarde) is assisted by the Greek police to hunt down a Greek Cypriot freedom fighter who is running away from the British military regime in Cyprus. He eventually kills him in cold blood at the Greek Airport in broad daylight, emphasizing thus the solidarity of Anglo-Greek friendship and similar attitudes towards "terrorists".
@euridike88
15 жыл бұрын
Regarding Barbara Castle: It is worth mentining that on her return from Cyprus she spoke openly at the Party's conference about the torture and the excesses of he paratroopers in Famagusta where for four days they roamed around the town damaging property, forcing themselves inside homes and assaulting everybody: women, children, old people. Their officers were supposedly unable to stop them, nor was the new Governor Sir Hugh Foot. ALL THIS TIME KARAMANLIS KEPT SILENT AND SO DID THE GREEK PRESS.
@dagmar1991
14 жыл бұрын
Sylvia - @ "Of all the foreigners who had a street named after them, I think only Byron deserved it." Certainly Byron contributed towards increasing awareness about Greece, but I feel that Hastings' part in the revolution has been greatly overlooked by both Greeks and British. There is only a small commemorative inscription with his name at Messolonghi. He was the most useful of the Philhellenes in the field, and void of any vanity and ulterior motives unlike some of the others.
@rupert99
15 жыл бұрын
It was customary to suspend the Constitution in emergencies. This is what George II did in 1936 according to his Constitutional powers. But as opposed to the Commies he never intended to split the country in half.
@euridike88
15 жыл бұрын
Tanja - I agree! Even I, can not understand all the words. Boys will be boys! Although, I think Dagmar is managing fine - unless she puts it on!
@ceasar70alexander
14 жыл бұрын
Long live the King of Hellenes!!!!
@george_karamperis7
11 жыл бұрын
Πιο Έλληνες από πολλούς από εμάς.Εις πολλά έτη Μεγαλειώτατε.
@aek..1924
6 жыл бұрын
Από μάνα Γερμανίδα πατέρας αγνώστου προελεύσεως και η γυναίκα του από Δανία γνήσιο ελληνοπουλο! ???????????
@aek..1924
6 жыл бұрын
Ο θεός να μας κόβει ημέρες και να του δίνει χρόνια ο θρύλος λέει όταν θα αναστηθεί ο μαρμαρομενος βασηλιας κωνσταν.παλαιολογος θα έρθει πάλι βασηλιας ο γλυκξουμπουργ και τότε θα πάρουμε την βασηλευουσα η αεκ θα έχει μόνιμη έδρα την βασηλευουσα αμήν αυτοί ζήσανε καλά και εμείς καλύτερα
@fruitypuffpie1585
2 жыл бұрын
@@aek..1924 Ο πατέρας του ο Παύλος προφανως γερμανος ήταν επειδή είχε μάνα Γερμανιδα(Βασίλισσα Σοφία Αλίκη Δωροθέα von Hohenzollern αδερφούλα του Καιζερ)
@aek..1924
2 жыл бұрын
@@fruitypuffpie1585 μεγάλε τώρα όπως γίναμε άστα......Πακιστανοί γεωργιανοι κουρδοι αφγανοι συριοι άστα να πάνε...
@dagmar1991
15 жыл бұрын
Sylvia, I never spam either, but I give -ve points. The only -ve point I gave today was in one of the German horse show forums. It is silly to spam, because those who read our comments will not know to whom we are responding.
@siadorcroft
16 жыл бұрын
yes... and i agree with you!
@kostas89ntas
12 жыл бұрын
ELLHNARADES.................OYDEN SXOLION
@tanjatanya
15 жыл бұрын
The Security Services knew all subscribers to foreign journals by name in the 1950s. The name of my grandmother's seamstress in Athens was on that list because she used to subscribe to the French Vogue. Do you sincerely believe that the countless accounts of the beastly treatment to which political detainees were subjected, never reached the ears of the Glücksburgs? All foreign Embassy staff knew. In the West it was common knowledge that the Glücksburg's time in Greece was long overdue!
@sylviaphryne
14 жыл бұрын
Well, to have supporters of monarchy accusing politicians of belonging to the same family it is quite an indictment. At least the members of parliament are elected by the people!
@lykauges
15 жыл бұрын
For the majority in parliament just before America was lost, the Patriots were a bunch of anarchists. As I said, if the term communism was about then it would have been employed too. In fifth century Athens they had there own emotionally loaded terms which for us today they are everyday words.
@lykauges
16 жыл бұрын
Mary a young queen? She was 37 when Edward died at 15. Also, you missed this line below: "... Edward did not want the crown to go to Mary, who he feared would restore Catholicism and undo his reforms, as well as those of Henry VIII. For this reason, he planned to exclude her from the line of succession."
@rupert99
15 жыл бұрын
He never used his royal titles. In the British Navy he was enlisted as Philip Mountbatten which is the anglicised form of Batttenberg. If royal titles are not used they are deemed to have become inactive.
@dagmar1991
15 жыл бұрын
"Dennis Healey had associated himself with Stalin by joining the communist party ... So anything from him is ridiculous." A rather creative interpretation of what you might have read out of context. Read it again! He was also one of the 30 Labour MPs who protested against the executions during the martial law of Sir John Harding. No protests from the Conservative Party. And in Greece students protesting outside the UK Embassy were badly beaten. Paul and Freiderika remained silent.
@dagmar1991
16 жыл бұрын
Mr Tassikos, for many Greeks neither Mr DeGrecia nor his family were seen as leaders of the Greek State. After George II's support of Metaxas' dictatorship, they were on Greek soil on borrowed time. It was everybody's bad luck that amongst the many groups that opposed George's return, after WW2, were also the Communists. As it has been often pointed out, it was the Communists who re-inflicted him on the Greeks - although that was far from their original intention. Paradoxical but also true!
@tanjatanya
15 жыл бұрын
Dr Michael Pissas in his capacity as Advisor to Makarios was with him in London at the time when negociations came to a stalemate. Frederica kept phoning the team at Dorchester Hotel urging Makarios to sign the unworkable agreement as the Greek team (in the nearby Claridges Hotel - Averov and Karamanlis) had already accepted the Turkish demands. Karamanlis even threatened to walk out. This was the 2nd time Cyprus was rejected by the Glücksburgs who cared more for those sponsored them.
@dagmar1991
15 жыл бұрын
Mr Podareilos, You may be familiar also with the Commons' involvement in the Romanov case. During their imprisonment in Ekaterinburg, the Commons proposed to discuss a plan for their rescue. George V feared that contributing towards their rescue would make him unpopular in Britain in view of Nikolas' reputation as an absolute and ruthless despot. However, when he changed his mind, he foud that the air in the Commons had changed too. The Commons feared public opinion and refused to discuss it.
@dagmar1991
14 жыл бұрын
Marius, it seems that your comment is very informative not to be hidden!
@dagmar1991
14 жыл бұрын
klearchosklearchou - Regarding the incident where without any constitutional, military, or judicial authority ordered the militia to shoot at the demonstrators: He did the same when he was sent to serve as a High Commissioner in Crete after its independence. That was the first clash he had with Venizelos. He was treating everyone as an absolute autocrat. This raised the question amonst the Cretan freedom fighters as to whether that was what they fought for, and they sent him packing.
@dagmar1991
16 жыл бұрын
Mr James, are you aware of the way the soldiers of your Yellow Emperor used to treat women in detention camps? They would even bet amongst them as to whether a pregnant detainee was carrying a male or female foetus, and then they would cause her to abort. When this wasn't possible they would just open her up. Very peaceful indeed. Their emperor, or whatever he calls himself, never apologised.
@Jame243
16 жыл бұрын
sylviaphryne the Kings weere not imposed apon the Greek People! Monarchy is a natural system of Governement! We see in nature also.The Bee-Queen and her Kingdom! The Monarchs of Europe helped the Greeks gain Independence and they gladly accepted a European Prince as King to help them organize their State and to become an integral part of Europe.We are all One European People!
@euridike88
15 жыл бұрын
Dagmar - Indeed, perhaps today he would have the decency to charge a nominal fee in order to "legitimise" the exercise - like Dame Shirley Porter (née Cohen) who sold a number of London cemeteries, in the 1980s, for 5 pence, recognising thus that they were not hers to give away for nothing. In Augustan Rome she could only expect the fate of Anthony, but in Modern Britain she went hiding in her family estate in Israel where her compatriots refused to extradite her to Britain to face justice.
@dagmar1991
14 жыл бұрын
Emperor_ While the Glücksburg regime continued to suppress any anti-British and anti-American feelings in Athens, with shootings and beatings, in the British House of Commons the government of Eden was criticised severely for the treatment of the Greeks in Cyprus. There were demonstrations in favour of Union of Cyprus with Greece where British MPs participated. For the Glücksburgs any criticism of their sponsors was an anathema. As a philhellene I fail to understand your sympathies!
@Jame243
16 жыл бұрын
dagmar1991 I know my English Royal History as my Greek Royal History!I know that Cromwell was succeded by his son but then Charles II came from France and the people hailed him as Liberator from the Tyrany of the fanatic Puritan Republic of Cromwell. And King Otto I a great King of Greece who organized the Greek Military and Judiciary and brought order to Greece.The Greek People loved him.
@dagmar1991
16 жыл бұрын
Mr James, what is the significance of the king of Serbia's son? To whose comment are you responding? I can not find the connection.
@ingridoctavia
16 жыл бұрын
More details and sources can be found in (e.g.) Ελευθεροτυπία 3 Ιουλίου 2006.
@sylviaphryne
14 жыл бұрын
@Valapaca, That's interesting, do you really think so? He is doing quite well in London at present, even as a pensioner.
@tanjatanya
15 жыл бұрын
podaleires, I found your source from a paper I published as an undergraduate. Mountbatten on King George V's role in the fate of the Romanovs - BBC Interview 1971. The PM at the time was Lloyd George who first advised for and then against offering asylum to the Romanov family, as public opinion changed. George as constitutional monarch he had to abide to the PM. I believe this is what you requested.
@rupert99
15 жыл бұрын
Τα Ιόνια νησιά παραδόθηκαν ως ΔΩΡΟ στον Βασιλέα Γεώργιο Ά το 1864. Διάβασε τα σχετικά διπλωματικά έγγραφα.
@rupert99
15 жыл бұрын
What you say though does not amount to undermining national security. That was the starting point.
@stefanakis94
12 жыл бұрын
ΖΗΤΩ Ο ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ
@dagmar1991
14 жыл бұрын
EmperorOfTheHellenes - Plato via Socrates compares different systems of government in the Republic in order to stimulate debate. He encourages the participants to see the pros and cons which can result by the excesses of EACH system - not just of Democracy. If you go back to where they agreed on a definition for "Justice", then you will be reminded that the rest of the book is a playful exercise to "invent" a Polis where their form of "custom made" justice could be at home.
@tanjatanya
15 жыл бұрын
**Omitted word last line: ... who cared more for those WHO sponsored them.
@tanjatanya
16 жыл бұрын
hermione - Frederica was not around when George II decided to impose the exiled traitor Metaxas, as a dictator on the Greek people. I unexpectedly found myself in a position that may look as though I am defending her. But she came Nazi Germany with ideas that stayed with her till the end. Her ousted sosiopathic grandfather who believed in his "divine right" to rule on account of his "superior genes" (inspite of his deformity), was flirting with Hitler from exile. That's all she knew!
@rupert99
15 жыл бұрын
Turkey had threatened with full-scale war. That would ne the result. The responsibility lies with Karamanlis who allowed the Turks to insinuate themselves as 'guarantors' during the negotiations for the Zurich and the London treaties.
@lykauges
16 жыл бұрын
Hermione - Paul had a similar relationship with Sophia Vembo and never married her. Many people had "something" with Vougiouklaki without marriage in mind. Besides she was 6 years older than him - appart from being an actress. It would look bad in almost all families in Greece - especially then. His uncle Alexander married Aspasia who was upper class and in "squeaky clean" condition, but was still opposed by both his family and Venizelos who thought the union improper on account of rank.
@sylviaphryne
14 жыл бұрын
Re: Your English: It's perfect and better than Dagmar's; but if you want you could respond in Greek (using Greek letters). Re: The Asia Minor fiasco: Whether the campaign should have been undertaken or not ought to have been a secondary issue once your boys were there. You can't send an army to fight a war and then decide to call elections under the banner: "Do not vote for Venizelos if you want to see your children again". Can you imagine George V being part of something like that?
@tanjatanya
14 жыл бұрын
@EmperorOfTheHellenes, Regarding political leaders coming from the same families, it is very common since antiquity. It just reflects the fact that some families are more politically aware than others. There is no harm to that as long as the process takes place within a democratic frame.
@tanjatanya
16 жыл бұрын
hermione - surely you can't be serious that he was going to marry Vougiouklaki. Yes, he wasn't, and still isn't, that bright but he was aware of what would be in his interest and what wouldn't. He was eventually married to someone much younger, more beautiful and modest whose morals Vougiouklaki could never match. Inspite of what is said about him and his family, I have never heard anything negative being said about his wife. She could do better.
@dagmar1991
15 жыл бұрын
And I am the President of the Great Dane Society in a small University town ... somewhere in Britain. But I am neither Great nor a Dane. ΦΦ, who the jolly is Lord Stamford they go on about?
@lykauges
16 жыл бұрын
Jame - Are you sure that it was a Greek Democratic Monarchy that Truman supported? In a democracy we do not have political prisoners. The opposition is not imprisoned or executed, but sit with the government in parliament and are paid the same salaries as them. They may vote with or against the government on critical issues. Truman wanted to control the region and have access to the M.E. oil. Truman like his successors would not give a damn about the Greeks. Remember Johnson's words to old G.P.
@lykauges
16 жыл бұрын
"den ekane vromies apla xazimares" This is what those who voted him out believed at the time. Now we have more details as regards the reasons behind dismissing the legitimate government of Papandreou, as well as him being the brain behind the coup of the generals which the colonels foiled. There are records of his communication with the junta from exile offering his services unconditionally. He even sent a telegram congradulating Papadopoulos for surviving Panagoulis' assassination attempt.
@sylviaphryne
16 жыл бұрын
Their removal was the best decision taken by the Greek people since Independence!
@euridike88
14 жыл бұрын
Frederica's involvement and collaboration with Karamanlis to exert pressure on Makarios to sigh the unworkable Treaty of Zurich is extremely well documented in academic texts. The year was 1959. It was Frederica and Karamanlis; not Frederica and Paul who ran the show. The British ought to have stayed in Cyprus at all costs. Why? This was the principle on which ΙΔΕΑ was founded. All army officers from the rank of a major were members. Paul was the "highest ranking officer".
@sylviaphryne
16 жыл бұрын
zante: We have just elected a new President a few seconds ago. Don't you think that a man who emerged from poverty with all odds against him and managed to become the President of our country on the basis of demonstrated talent and ability rather than nepotism deserves your admiration and approval more than your Mr De Grecia? From your English you seem to be a guest in our country. I do hope you are enjoying our democratic values.
@tanjatanya
15 жыл бұрын
podaleires - You can ofcourse guess that in the 2nd line I mean the interview in the 1970s - so do not pretend to understad that I speak about the time of the Normands.
@rupert99
15 жыл бұрын
Brilliant tzanabetys !! Two mistakes in two lines. 1. HM Constantine II disagreed with the withdrawal of the Greek division. That is why he tried to anticipate disaster by attempting to overthrow the colonels. If you want to know why the Division had to be withdrawn look at the Zurich-London Agreements signed by Karamanlis.
@nikosdrama4
15 жыл бұрын
ΕΥΓΕ ΦΙΛΕ ΜΟΥ ΕΤΣΙ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΟΠΩΣ ΤΑ ΓΡΑΦΕΙΣ. ΑΥΤΟΙ ΚΑΤΑΣΤΡΕΨΑΝ ΤΗΝ ΕΛΛΑΔΑ ΜΑΣ ΦΙΛΑΚΙΑ ΝΙΚΟΣ
@dagmar1991
15 жыл бұрын
In the ancient Greek sense of the word, yes! But then so were Byron, Hastings, Trelawny and so many others who helped during the Greek Revolution. But even the Athenians of 5th century BC knew where to stop. For example Herodotus was a Carian. His aunt Artemisia, the Carian queen, fought in the Battle of Salamis on the Persian side in charge of a Carian ship.But Herodotus was never thought of as a non-Greek. So, really even then there wasn't a black and white distinction.
@Jame243
16 жыл бұрын
dagmar1991 George III was not an Absolute Monarch like Louis XIV "Le Roi Soleil" the Sun King of France! England had a Parliament and a Prime Minister.Truman had nothing to do with George III! Please do not present Americans as anti-Monarchists.The American Revolution had nothing to do with Democracy!Simply they wanted to establish their own Governement in a new Land because Mother England was too far!
@dagmar1991
15 жыл бұрын
You mention somewhere that you have some of the stills featuring in this video. Do you have the pictures with the severed heads of the resistance fighters who although financed at first by Churchill they were all at once seen as enemies because they resisted the return of George who was responsible for the dictatoship and excesses of the Metaxas' regime. You must also be familiar with the case of Electra Apostolou who was tortured to death by the royalist German collaborators.
@rupert99
15 жыл бұрын
Of course you are not tzanabetys. GO ot the next page and you will find his comments I am responding to. That is why I put his name. To avoid confusion.
@dagmar1991
16 жыл бұрын
Yes they restored the monarchy but after the excesses of Charles II and the despotism of James II the family was ousted again. The next ones were brought to Britain on conditions dictated by the Parliament. They knew that they ought to watch their step or else! Cromwell was not got rid of but died in his bed peacefully, long before the restoration.
@siadorcroft
16 жыл бұрын
i agree 100% with you. as i told you, i am a fan of education and what did you expect from the church? as usual they try to write their own story...
@dagmar1991
14 жыл бұрын
Emperor__ @ "our them isn't democracy ..." Your reference to "constitutional monarchy" landed us on the theme of democracy. My reference to Sparta was within the context of YOUR comment as regards monarchy having made Greece strong in ancient times. Naturally, as any form of tyranny was an anathema for Athens, you could only be referring to Sparta. I therefore do not compare the then Spartans with today's Greeks but their kings to all present kings - you having introduced the subject!
@sylviaphryne
15 жыл бұрын
In the same year George V in the thick of anti-German sentiment renounced his German titles changing his family name from Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha to Windsor. Louis Battenberg followed suit by anglicizing his name to Mountbatten. His sister, Philips mother, not being British, had no reason to do so. So at the time of his courtship, Philip Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg had at least one name from his mothers side which could be partly anglicized: Battenberg>Mountbatten.
@rupert99
15 жыл бұрын
I obviously meant that they were popular with their own people. WHich they are.
@tanjatanya
16 жыл бұрын
Valapaca, you are obviously a Greek, and I note from your profile that you live in my country (USA). I do hope that you enjoy our country and what comes with our democratic values. Why should you not wish the same for your compatriots? Greece voted against monarchy. Respect the will of the large majority. UK, the country where I live has chosen monarchy. I respect their democratic choice too.
@rupert99
15 жыл бұрын
marius4marius we have all quoted ot of context at some point in our lives.
@tanjatanya
15 жыл бұрын
podaleires, In the "File on the Czar" there are also extracts of Mounbatten's BBC interview in the 1070s where he points out that the king "learned his lesson" and in the case of Andrew he sent Calypso in a rather clandestine and uncontitutional fashion to rescue him because he was going to be court martialled for high treason after the AM fiasco.
@rupert99
15 жыл бұрын
What are your sources on this? How do you guess the reasons that GR V changed his mind?On what grounds?
@dagmar1991
16 жыл бұрын
Mr Tassikos, even the earlier referendum, that took place under the junta, was more democratic than the original decision to import them and impose them on the Greek people after Otto was deported. They could have been imported for the same reason to Calcuta, Mexico, or Abyssinia, and they would have made good "patriotic" Calcutans, Mexicans, or Abyssinians. They could even invent a noble reason to accept a sultan's post if they were asked by the Turks.
@euridike88
14 жыл бұрын
EmperorOfTheHellenes - Who is to blame for that? We also have the Mitsotakis clan with a change of names. In Argentina the Peron dictatoship brought them Eva Peron and later Isabella Peron. In the US there was a George Bush sr and a George Bush jr. We can not go back to square one every time we are not happy with the government. We can exert our democratic rights and vote someone else in the next elections. We can not overthrow an elected government we do not like at the drop of a hat.
@dagmar1991
14 жыл бұрын
EmperorOfTheHellenes - Re: The "Greekness" of Mr DeGrecia: The issue of his national background becomes irrelevant. Democracy in the 6th century BC Athens emerged within a context of the rejection of kingship and tyranny. About 2500 years later, after the French Revolution, European monarchs were given reason to reflect and correct their ways. Those who persisted in their "divine right" to rule over others, had a sad end. The Glücksburgs were very fortunate. They are infact better of now!
@dagmar1991
14 жыл бұрын
EmperorOfTheHellenes - @ "I don't believe in Democracy" [sic] Then you are at odds with Mr DeGrecia - in these days he doesn't miss an opportunity to speak about democracy, democratic processes, and his "respect" for the will of the people. It seems, therefore, that Mr DeGrecia would be seriously displeased with an admirer who does not subscribe to democracy. I hope he doesn't read your comment because he would be frightfully distressed!
@euridike88
14 жыл бұрын
Emperor..etc - @ "only Athens got Democracy and thats why it lost the Peloponesian War" 1. Only Athens? Check! 2. The Battle of Marathon in 490 BC has been the turning point that determined the future of our Western culture and it materialized because of Democracy. The West would have been different today if that battle was never fought.
@rupert99
15 жыл бұрын
ζητω ο ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ ΚΩΝΣΤΑΝΤΙΝΟΣ ΙΓ
@lykauges
15 жыл бұрын
I can not find any exchange of views regarding the Romanovs. I understand you touched the subject with someone else who wanted to highlight the fact that in a parliamentary democracy, the king, if there is one, is subject to the decisions of the members of parliament. I recall that's how the subject came about. I wasn't meant to send you any references. Someone else was. But as we are on the subject: Why do you think Stamford's account deviate from the norm which was in line with the Times?
@sylviaphryne
16 жыл бұрын
In the UK constitutional monarchy is a system that evolved naturally together with the nation. There was never a time when there was no king in Britain. In Greece the system was imposed from abroad. It was never wanted by all. To change a tradition of 5000 years in order to accommodate the Glücksburgs is an insult to the people of Greece. It is like introducing the barbaric and degrading Asiatic tradition of circumcision to a nation that never practised it.
@rupert99
15 жыл бұрын
Ανόητε, ο Πρίπγηπας Φίλιππος δεν ήταν Glucksburg αλλά Bαttenberg. Το Μαουτμπάττεν στο οποίο αναφέρεσαι είνια η αγγλική μετάφραση του γερμανικού ονόματος. Και καμία σχέση δεν έχει η άνύπαρκτη αηδία των Άγγλων με το Glucksburg.
@rupert99
15 жыл бұрын
Thus his successors had only two options retreat in shame and be reviled for this by Venizelos (who had not provided the army with the heavy artillery required), or advance. Unfortunately they chose the second. In any case advancing was the decision of a democratically elected Government.
@tanjatanya
15 жыл бұрын
Do you mean the formation of a provisional government as Kerensky's for a definite length of time? Do they claim anywhere that that was their intention, or that's your view?
@euridike88
14 жыл бұрын
EmperorOfTheHellenes - Re: "We believe in the Greek ancestry of our dynasty ..." ΣΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΠΑ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@dagmar1991
16 жыл бұрын
Re: James II - He missed the fate of his father because he realised that had he gone ahead with the catholic army, that Louis XIV placed at his disposal, and were defeated he would be executed for high treason as his father. He is referred to as an abererration of an Enlish monarch who was a religious bigot - he even arrested the Archbishop of Canterbury and all his bishops and instructed his corrupt judges accordingly. James II, cowardly deserted his army and was arrested while running away.
@dagmar1991
15 жыл бұрын
Miss Tassikos - In all IE languages we have two types of Nouns: Common Nouns and Proper Nouns. Names of people and places are Proper Nouns and they are, therefore written with a capital first letter: e.g. Dagmar (my first name), or Tassikos (which can only be a surname). At any rate thank you for your Easter wishes - especially after you wished that those who do not approve of monarchy should be struck by a bullet.
@Jame243
15 жыл бұрын
"..the Greek city-states and the other city-states that sprang up in the Helenistic monarchy became more cosmopolitan;they teemed with Greeks,Persians,Syrians,Jews,Egyptians and others. .he was rightly portrayed by his biographer Plutarch who wrote:" He conceived that he was divinely sent to be the harmonizer and theconciliator of Greeks and barbarians alike. He sought as to blend as it were in the mixing-cup of good fellowship all civilizations and customs".
@dagmar1991
15 жыл бұрын
Moreover: It is wrong and militarily immature to aproach Hitler's defeat in terms of being owed to one single person. By the time USSR began their offensive, the race in the West was not calculated towards Hitler's defeat but towards being there before the Russians. Also, Stalin's objective was to defeat Hitler and not to preserve the British Empire as was Churchill's.
@euridike88
15 жыл бұрын
ΦΦ, no you are not a fox, my dear, and O. is most certainly not a Great Dane! However, you both chased him away and he was such fun! You can't get them as loopyloop as this any more!
@rupert99
15 жыл бұрын
2. Secondly, tzanabetys the Asia Minor expedition. In 1920 when Venizelos decided to have elections (unprecedented in the history of warfare) he was already occupying a much larger area than that stipulated in the relevant Treaties.
@dagmar1991
15 жыл бұрын
Leopold of Belgium, the butcher of Africa "owned" Congo too. And I suppose the Eastern Romans who used to rent Cyprus and other parts of the Eastern Roman Empire to the Arabs with a free hand to collect taxes as they pleased were "lawful" too. And who makes these laws? A voice in the desert promising to a nomad someone elses piece of land? During the German occupation of Athens, the city was lawfully theirs, according to your logic, to give as a present to their Japanese allies.
@Jame243
16 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reply sylviaphryne.
@tanjatanya
14 жыл бұрын
@EmperorOfTheHellenes, There was a very strong French party although France was not a Great Power as such. They were still recovering from the Napoleonic Wars and were themselves experimenting once again with monarchy. A large Greek minority put their trust in them. Such trust was misplaced. Forming political parties on the basis of which country was more likely to protect Greece created a culture of dependence which lasted as late as the mid-seventies.
@tanjatanya
15 жыл бұрын
"What the h..." Once again: Language! Ofcourse, Metaxas was dead by the time the Germans invaded. We also know that the so-called Security Battalions were drawn from the core of George/Metaxas dictatorship. The Germans accepted their services and this provided them with an opportunity to eliminate all political opponenents, and with the German help. Often the German authorities would allow them exercise discretion. In the case of Electra Apostolou they did just that with much gusto.
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