How to win a debate:keep talking to prevent your opposition from forming arguements
@nicholasbain2835
9 ай бұрын
from the Piers Morgan handbook on 'winning' debates
@Magst3r1
9 ай бұрын
@@nicholasbain2835Muhammed Hijab also does that
@connorhart7597
9 ай бұрын
@@nicholasbain2835hahahahaha opened the replies to say at least thats what piers does! 😂
@tiffanyroberts6460
9 ай бұрын
More like just let them keep talking til they destroy themselves, seriously she just said shaking hands is equal to worshiping a dictator
@Mark73
8 ай бұрын
I want to see someone in that situation yell "Should I just leave? Because you can easily have a conversation with yourself without me."
@johannesbrahms9528
9 ай бұрын
Do you wear a tie? She asks the man not wearing a tie.
@ric7053
9 ай бұрын
Well apparently not! 😂
@benwil6048
9 ай бұрын
xD
@beyamoth
9 ай бұрын
I no longer wear ties as it is cultural appropriation.... I am not french so I shouldn't wear one😂
@erict.watson2460
9 ай бұрын
Why stop at the tie? Clothing in general, or gender appropriate attire at the very least ....
@coweatsman
9 ай бұрын
Yes we all love wearing a noose around our neck. Surely a sign of subservience.
@808nats
Ай бұрын
She’s comparing wearing a tie to submission to a monarchy. 🤦🏻♀️ 😂
@lets_wrapitup
21 күн бұрын
What submission? It’s a constitutional monarchy, they can’t induce submission. Her point was that the same way you wear a tie, in the principle of uniformity, the monarchy serves that same purpose, in being a national symbol. Also, to address CosmicSkeptic’s point of referring to the sovereign as ‘your Highness’ to be indicative of a power imbalance… As it’s been stated, it’s a constitutional monarchy, it has no power, the “highness” is the dedication a sovereign makes from the moment of birth to the moment they die, in serving the nation. For example, Princess Diana never expressed any power, but made significant social/cultural changes. In terms of their funding, they are funded as a tourist attraction the same way funding goes to any other recreational institutions.
@reedermusic3927
19 күн бұрын
@@lets_wrapitup Why do Americans get a say on who their head of state is ,but the british people get NO SAY on who is head of state?
@lets_wrapitup
19 күн бұрын
@@reedermusic3927 because one has a monarchy and the other doesn’t? If America were also a monarchy I’d have the same view. A head of state virtually basically has no power, it only makes sense for it to be monarchical because of cultural significance.
@berlinisvictorious
18 күн бұрын
Lol those antimonarchist peasants are hilarious 😂
@Tat011
18 күн бұрын
@lets_wrapitup they have no power, but they also can make significant cultural/social changes? The mind of a monarchist everyone.
@cosmicacorn
9 ай бұрын
Shaking hands is a gesture of equality, not submission. Tradition is fine, forced subservience to someone by their right of birth is disgusting.
@tonyschumacher-jones1540
9 ай бұрын
Good point that. Some traditions good. Others not so. Thanks.
@cosmicacorn
9 ай бұрын
@tonyschumacher-jones1540 Put it this way, I'm saying that tradition is irrelevant to the point. I only bring up handshakes and compare it to other traditions within context as a response to the woman in the video doing so. I don't think saying "but it's tradition" just wipes away all negativity affiliated with it otherwise. Edit: I assume you meant that comment sarcastically but on the now-noticeable chance that you didn't, sorry lmao
@tecategpt1959
7 ай бұрын
The difference is these are rituals that are universally done by the common people and by the rich aristocrats. Praising someone due to their prescribed status is really strange
@filipsichrovsky
7 ай бұрын
Maybe she meant when one party is the first to offer a handshake within etiquette
@mushy470
7 ай бұрын
shaking hands is also a test of basic dexterity and to show you don't have a weapon. That is what i was told anyway when discussing its roots
@thomasherzog86
9 ай бұрын
"we bow to the position, not the person." Great argument for a position you cannot take without being the right person.
@RustyWalker
9 ай бұрын
An no actual reason offered other than, "because we always have."
@Nathan-rn7wl
9 ай бұрын
@@RustyWalkerita because they are our or supposed to be our leaders
@RustyWalker
9 ай бұрын
@@Nathan-rn7wlSo's my manager but I don't bow to them.
@Nathan-rn7wl
9 ай бұрын
@@RustyWalker ok? he doesnt run the country
@RustyWalker
9 ай бұрын
@@Nathan-rn7wl Follow the logic where it goes. My example is valid based on the argument provided. P1. Leaders should be bowed to. P2. My manager is a leader. C. Therefore my manager should be bowed to. I don't agree with premise 1 so the conclusion doesn't follow. I act as if the conclusion doesn't follow in my daily life. I don't bow to my manager. Therefore, it follows that the conclusion doesn't follow for any leaders if that's the only reason why people bow to them.
@joyeetabd2671
9 ай бұрын
well slavery is a tradition and it happened for centuries. That surely justifies it.
@littlebitofhope1489
9 ай бұрын
Millenia actually. Many millenia.
@Tyler_Skye77
9 ай бұрын
Widespread violence & crime have happened for practically all of history- it must be the ideal. Let us strive to be a wretch upon the Earth & all life! 🤦🏽♀️
@RenegadeShepard69
9 ай бұрын
I also think it particularly funny that a woman was so invested in appealing to tradition but I don't wanna get into how many traditions would not really make her happy to try to keep, as a woman. Unless she thinks her life is less important than a tie, which to bootlickers I'm never sure if it's clear.
@chewygad7899
9 ай бұрын
Yeah maybe we should just “run with it”.
@davidevans3223
9 ай бұрын
Not in the west thanks to the British empire the international slave trader's all over the world have been stopped but outside the Christian world real slaves not modern day slaves there's more than any other time in history. Everyone in the UK is born with different privaliges only the royals comes with duties and the majority support them so it's evil to remove them that's what dictator do
@ryancox5097
3 ай бұрын
Show hosts: "THIS CRAZY THING ISN'T ACTUALLY CRAZY, BECAUSE THERE ARE *OTHER* CRAZY THINGS WE DO AS WELL!"
@thomasalba877
12 күн бұрын
Exactly. This is how we justify the insanity. Because if we were to actually look into the “systems” that run these corporate enterprises known as America or England, without bias or any preconceptions, it would collapse ones reality and leave them with the knowledge that they (we) have been lied to, manipulated and heavily brainwashed/mind controlled since birth.
@charliekowittmusic
9 ай бұрын
I like how Alex starts his sentence 10 times because they won’t stop interrupting him 😂
@ClemiHW
9 ай бұрын
This is a perfect example of appeal to tradition
@davidevans3223
9 ай бұрын
We fight war's for less of course not everyone supports all traditions but you don't have to all you have to do is respect to millions they are very important
@tripweed
9 ай бұрын
@@davidevans3223millions have traditions of hating LGBTQ and women. I will not show an inkling of respect for these people or the traditions they stand for. Same goes for the monarchy. There is no reason to respect such an archaic system that elevates one family above not just other people but in many cases the law itself. How can one stand for people being equal, and still support a monarchy?
@ClemiHW
9 ай бұрын
@@davidevans3223 when the queen died millions lost access to incredibly important services and places because it's tradition to shut down those services Respect goes both way, if your tradition impedes on my way of living i'm not going to respect it
@matt69nice
9 ай бұрын
@@davidevans3223there's a difference between 'respecting' someone's traditions, and a significant portion of the taxes you pay being used to support it.
@davidevans3223
9 ай бұрын
@@tripweed you're just full of hate for other's born into a different privalige why don't you swap your life for someone born into Rwanda it's a suppose a far bigger drop but of course to you that must mean even more wrong to many having running water and food is living like a king
@SchgurmTewehr
9 ай бұрын
It’s not a ridiculous tradition, it’s a condescending one.
@andresgarciacastro1783
9 ай бұрын
Both? Both!
@davidevans3223
9 ай бұрын
Nothing is more important than culture and heritage nothing at all most people are willing to at least risk their lives for it if you don't have it you have nothing the royals have no power many obligations and make millions happy as long as they have majority support you'd have to be an evil dictator to remove them
@jonjeskie5234
9 ай бұрын
And she had the audacity to compare a handshake to a bow 🤣
@pipeline732
9 ай бұрын
Not mutually exclusive :)
@Woodsaras
9 ай бұрын
Being offended by irrelevant sht is much more ridiculous.
@allrequiredfields
5 ай бұрын
I love that wearing a tie is somehow comparable to being ruled over by someone arbitrarily
@christopherchilton-smith6482
24 күн бұрын
The more I hear him the more I love this man ❤
@johannesbrahms9528
9 ай бұрын
Let me just talk over Alex as he offers reasonable justification for what he said. Can't have that shit! It makes sense, and that terrifies me!
@kenhammscousin4716
9 ай бұрын
Always. Every single time. Thought I was watching piers Morgan for a second
@skateboardingjesus4006
9 ай бұрын
But it was so uncouth of Alex to be critical of those inbred elitist toffs.
@stinkygoat2686
9 ай бұрын
"Stop it patrick, you're scaring him"
@Symmetry_Obsessed_Freak
5 ай бұрын
@@stinkygoat2686Underrated comment
@SigFigNewton
3 ай бұрын
Tradition is often the opposite of common sense. It’s what you do despite there being no reason to do it
@Alex-pk1iy
9 ай бұрын
Never have I seen so many people clutch pearls in unison
@ihsahnakerfeldt9280
5 ай бұрын
Pearl clutching has got to be one of the most hilarious idioms out there lmao
@Firegen1
19 күн бұрын
They clutched each others pearls. You have to pay good money for that in Soho!
@jesseh3465
9 ай бұрын
To be fair, most of the time, when people refer to a dead relative looking down on them, they are usually just implying that the person is looking down due to being up in heaven.
@deethwarrior
8 ай бұрын
She ain't in heaven
@jesseh3465
8 ай бұрын
@@deethwarrior I don't really know much about her, so I can't really agree or disagree with you.
@j0kerclash289
6 ай бұрын
Alex knows, he was just being a dick, regardless of how justified his criticism of the monarchy is
@Mythical.History
11 күн бұрын
@@j0kerclash289 He made a joke
@10thletter40
5 күн бұрын
@@Mythical.History Yes, a bit of a dickish joke. No need for anybody to get upset over it though
@ricklubbers1526
9 ай бұрын
"we kinda run with it and it sorta works" okay, but can i question it? Doesnt mean you need to change it, but god forbid i question tradition.
@carlpanzram7081
9 ай бұрын
Right. Tradition should be respected to a certain degree, but it's not a religion. Questioning Tradition is not a sin. It's not like we wiwloose all cultural values just because someone questions the value of aristocrats in the 21.century.
@ihsahnakerfeldt9280
5 ай бұрын
People also "ran with" (some still do) sl@very and it "sorta worked." Just because something is a tradition doesn't mean it's good or should be defended. Appeal to tradition is one of the most well-known and transparent logical fallacies.
@SineN0mine3
Ай бұрын
@@ihsahnakerfeldt9280yes but you're not offering us a fair choice. There's no world in which you can dissolve the monarchy without replacing it. The question isn't what's wrong with the monarchy, the question is what system do you think is so much better that we should invest the huge effort towards changing to it. How much of the government's money do you want to spend rewriting the laws and how are you going to make sure that it's fair? When all is said and done, what tangible benefit does that new system offer that's worth all the hassle? It's simply easier to not change unless you have a better argument that "tradition bad". Because capitalism bad and socialism bad and everything bad if you want it to be.
@nathanjora7627
5 күн бұрын
Well, few people question traditions without the intent to change it, so to be fair, kind of normal to react as though you'd want to change it. Because generally that's what happens.
@jamiew9235
9 ай бұрын
'we kind of run with it and it sort of works'. i have nothing more to add
@joshjackson678
9 ай бұрын
Amazing right. Hell! I know a lot of folks with that thought process. I just wanna shake em,haha wake up people that’s crazy talk. “That’s just the way it is”type shit, kills me. Glad! I’m not the only one who caught that, sure is reassuring haha😂
@dennisgoatimer1079
9 ай бұрын
@@joshjackson678Its a good system without we would be worse of
@obitouchiha6439
9 ай бұрын
Typical collectivist idealism, lol.
@boianko
9 ай бұрын
I love that he backpedaled to that without Alex even really responding
@jonjeskie5234
9 ай бұрын
@@obitouchiha6439feels more like the denialism than idealism
@thinkbeyond3457
9 ай бұрын
So a country needs to look up to someone who's only qualification is the correct sperm and egg happened to meet? 🤔
@noirj6705
9 ай бұрын
One would question the word correct. Apart from that spot on.
@dennisgoatimer1079
9 ай бұрын
She did a great job keeping this country together fella
@liamosborne6859
9 ай бұрын
@@dennisgoatimer1079that’s not really the argument though, is it? no one is accusing the queen of having been a bad ruler, but rather questioning the system that made her ruler in the first place
@dennisgoatimer1079
9 ай бұрын
@@liamosborne6859 The system is perfect fella without it you would have to wait around every single time one of them dies and by the time that happens the tyrannical dictator can't be stopped like Germany in the 30s when President Von Hindenburg died. Plus it's stability in this trying times that many people look up to. Just look at the Christmas Speech during COVID and how that did help people mentally.
@ZaiDrizzleDrop
9 ай бұрын
@@dennisgoatimer1079 man you are so condescending with this fella talk
@_Merkabah_
9 ай бұрын
The traditions they bring up aren't comparable in the slightest. We're mixing turtles, chameleons and crocodiles under the premise they're all reptiles.
@95TRY
Ай бұрын
Alex is definitely right on this one. They correctly point out that some traditions are pragmatic and are worth saving. But, it does not follow from this that all traditions are pragmatic and worthy of saving. The tradition of the monarchy is not worth saving, even supports are in incapable of creating coherent arguments for their position. But I am an American….
@andrewchupeau3129
6 күн бұрын
So your subservience is to unelected lobbyists with no cap on political funding and the stooge they put in power who has dictatorial edicts that don't need elected houses (sorry "Executive Orders" 😂) along with a cabinet that is appointed on the whim of the lobbyists' stooge... not drawn from an elected chamber like cabinet members must be in a parliamentary system. Got it. What "freedom" and democracy you have. The US overthrew a constitutional monarch with no powers to make edicts or executive orders and replaced it with the illusion of democracy but a more powerful dictator figure who is manipulated by donors who buy up both sides of the aisle...so your only "choice" is manufactured, much like in a one-party state. 😂😂😂 Hilariously, the story goes it was about taxation. When those in the UK at the time were taxed 7% and the American colonies were asked for 2% from a previous 0%. Such tyranny...😂 and what's your state and federal tax rates now? 😂😂 Lower? 😂😂
@jsmit9484
9 ай бұрын
It's like a religion. Don't you dare insult the institute of power! Crazy
@harman1957
9 ай бұрын
Isn't it. These anti monarchists with their refusal to consider themselves lesser than the king by virtue of birth
@HarryNicNicholas
9 ай бұрын
well i like to point out that the declaration of human rights and the constitution both over - ride god laws. the first amendment conflicts with the first commandment, we didn't vote for god or a king.
@TheAxeter
9 ай бұрын
@@HarryNicNicholasThat's true but not everyone is American, 1st amendment means nothing for me
@redwire6315
9 ай бұрын
Well, isn't the monarch the head of the church of England?
@Paulstrickland01
9 ай бұрын
@@redwire6315Only because a former wide load royal threw a tantrum and wanted to be able to sleep around unchallenged. Funny how there's a repeating historical theme in these people of tantrum throwing for self gain.
@troys7954
9 ай бұрын
You probably never imagined you’d end up talking about this subject so much. I love it though
@nikolajkrarup-os9gn
9 ай бұрын
Alex is way too intelligent to even participate in a debate with such royal fools..
@SineN0mine3
Ай бұрын
Its easy to criticise, much harder to offer valid solutions. So we disolve the monarchy, so what? What will replace their legal function in parliament? Will we go towards the US style republic? What about issues like corruption and lobbying? It doesn't appear to me that those issues have been adequately addressed by other republics. Isn't it better to have a bad system for dealing with corruption than none at all? Maybe we don't need to copy the USA, but I don't see anybody suggesting reasonable alternatives.
@nikolajkrarup-os9gn
Ай бұрын
@@SineN0mine3 So the royal assholes are experts in dealing with corruption? Wow that's precious. LMAO 😂
@justingary5322
13 күн бұрын
Not really 😞
@IRanOutOfPhrases
6 ай бұрын
Lol... Equating any of this to the tradition of "wearing a tie"
@princepsbellum3413
24 күн бұрын
It wasn't an equation. It was just an example of a tradition that doesn't really make any sense.
@IRanOutOfPhrases
24 күн бұрын
@@princepsbellum3413 Deeming something a "tradition" is lazy and sloppy. It's fashion, nothing more. There's nothing particularly 'moral' to consider about it. On the flipside, we've seen plenty of other 'traditions' that have far worse moral considerations: slavery, hazing, gender roles, etc (not sorted in any particular order) She's trying to strip that key element out with her absurd, intentionally stripped down "tradition." Just because you can lump them under a particular category, it doesn't mean it belongs in the same conversation. He's talking about something that's considerably more substantive than wearing a neck tie.
@princepsbellum3413
24 күн бұрын
@@IRanOutOfPhrases sweetie, I literally only explained what she meant, as opposed to what you claimed she meant. It's obviously not a great argument by any means. Just calm down.
@IRanOutOfPhrases
24 күн бұрын
@@princepsbellum3413 Sweetie, I literally only explained what I meant as opposed to what you claimed I meant: That it was a horrific argument, which you agree with. Calm down.
@princepsbellum3413
24 күн бұрын
@@IRanOutOfPhrases darling, that's just simply not true. You called equating, which it wasn't. Anyway, do you have any other hobbies than lying and trashing the monarchy? LMAO
@pallekanin91
9 ай бұрын
Why do they even get offended? The woman in the clip is ridiculous
@HarryNicNicholas
9 ай бұрын
people love being offended, in fact the smaller the brain....
@design-dwg5785
9 ай бұрын
The woman is offended because if she wasn’t offended then she wouldn’t be able to think of anything else to say.
@ROFT
9 ай бұрын
I think it was a guy in the clip. I believe it's James Hewitt's lad.
@pallekanin91
9 ай бұрын
@fleurdanon did they just assume, they invited a random lad? The monarchy is a joke. We have one too in Denmark
@jonnawyatt
9 ай бұрын
The men are offended too.🙄
@Comboman70
9 ай бұрын
"I must of forgotten mine today!" Hitchen Feelings LOL
@JJBerthume
2 ай бұрын
I know I died at that remark 😂😭
@option2303
Ай бұрын
Brilliant😂
@douglassmithe9799
4 ай бұрын
'Do you wear a tie?' 'I forgot mine today'
@allykat5899
9 ай бұрын
I feel like Alex is kinda being a shit here. The Monarchy is ridiculous and out dated and fair criticism of it is completely warranted. But he didn't need to go about it this way. When he is intelligent enough to know full well that is not what Harry meant by "looking down on us." He is just being a provacatour.
@GiubileiFernando
9 ай бұрын
He admits that he's trying to be funny, but it's not like they let him elaborate or that he doesn't have a point. He's saying the dude had a very poor choice of words.
@SineN0mine3
Ай бұрын
@@GiubileiFernandoit's not a poor choice of words though, it's a perfectly normal way to express that somebody has passed. It's actually completely unreasonable to interpret a personal expression of grief as intended to make a convincing argument in favour of a world view. It's pedantry, plain and simple. It's fine if they point was to make a joke, but it wasn't, it was to pursuade us of an argument. Since it feels like the joke is at our expense, since clearly nobody else interpreted the phrase in that way, it fails to convince the panel or the audience. In general it's considered poor form to make jokes when somebody is grieving. If you are very close, it could be seen as trying to cheer somebody up but when you're not even in the same room as them it's just coming off as callous. You don't have to start singing hymns when a Christian is grieving but it's absolutely not the time to debate the existence of an afterlife.
@Fs3i
9 ай бұрын
“I wasn’t just trying to be funny (although I was trying to do that), but I …” is such a great thing in a discussion like that, very disarming
@shahdhussein4652
9 ай бұрын
If you don't mind me asking, what was he alluding to here? (English is not my first language, and I am terribly sorry if I inconvenienced you)
@Fs3i
9 ай бұрын
@@shahdhussein4652Looking down from heaven (as in: she’s dead, and now looks from the heavens), as well as “looking down on someone (who is socially beneath you).”
@filipedias7284
7 ай бұрын
@@shahdhussein4652bro already speaking british 🤯
@djinnxx7050
3 ай бұрын
@@filipedias7284Are you sure he isn't British? His apologising for inconvenience potentially caused is spot on, I could swear to the lord above (should one exist, which it doesn't) that he is totally British.
@roberttregidgo6345
2 ай бұрын
really? I thought he was implying she was looking up (from hell)
@harman1957
9 ай бұрын
Oh yes wearing a tie is same as being told you are subjects of a fellow human who is given devine right to rule over you by virtue of birth
@young_raymond47
6 ай бұрын
They’re so brainwashed and they’ll never understand that. The indoctrination begins at birth so it’s really not their fault.
@ihsahnakerfeldt9280
5 ай бұрын
Lmao
@RhetoricalMuse
5 ай бұрын
Thee don't rule over you. That's the main crux here. It is largely symbolic. The king has no political power.
@betadecay6503
3 ай бұрын
and he's not even wearing a tie 😂😂
@Malik-mw2ry
3 ай бұрын
Are you referring to Judaic Ideology or British royalty? Lol
@el_mal_de_ojo
Күн бұрын
Their scrambling and talking over him is extremely telling.
@Deridus
8 ай бұрын
End ALL caste systems. Down with the Monarchy!
@gusgrizzel8397
7 ай бұрын
They don't even marry other royals anymore.
@magtinfal7908
Ай бұрын
The monarchy that has literally no power or authority of any kind?
@Deridus
Ай бұрын
@@magtinfal7908 I guess "soft power" and the ability to issue royal commands, to say nothing of being the head of a state church... No. It still needs to be abolished. All of them do.
@magtinfal7908
Ай бұрын
@Deridus What royal commands? They don't do anything lol. I can understand if you think it should be abolished because of how useless they are
@Deridus
Ай бұрын
@@magtinfal7908 Just watch a Black Rod ceremony for the Commons. It might all be a farce, but never forget the influence they have regardless. A minute of ceremony every now and again adds up, you know. Then there's Sandhurst. How many royals have gotten there because of blood rather than merit? My list of reasons for despising the concept of inherited political authority is too long and too counter to KZitem's censors.
@Nitroade24
9 ай бұрын
I applaud your patience here my goodness they never let you get a word in
@thomasel9171
7 ай бұрын
Because we dont give jerkoffs like him the time to speak.
@alflyle9955
9 ай бұрын
The smug a-holes loudly speaking over Alex only make the royalists look more ridiculous and expidite their doom. Good job!
@AdamBechtol
5 ай бұрын
:p
@holyromanemperor420
3 ай бұрын
Royalists aren't dumb. We all have birth and genetic privileges, some have more, some have less. Every single person, including Alex, is where he/she is mostly because of the genetic lottery. If it weren't for the lucky crossing over and good genes from parents, they wouldn't be what they are now. Everyone also has non gene related birth privileges. Look at history, the average person has almost never become the leader of a nation. Most often, they are children of rich and powerful people. Monarchy isn't as stupid as Republicans claim, it's just that you guys rarely ever debate with actual Monarchists or Monarchist scholars.
@displayer6023
Ай бұрын
@@holyromanemperor420 The funniest part about your comment is that you seem to be serious. Monarchism is dead, deal with it. Or don't and keep larping as "Holyromanemperor420". You do you
@cojuk7
4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 I love it when the peasant get defensive over the mocking of idols! Great remark too!
@thebluerecruit1434
5 ай бұрын
I love this guy lmao, I still can't believe a modern country still has a royal family
@MacLaw3084
9 ай бұрын
that’s pedantic 😂. it’s like they’re too stuffy to even appreciate a well timed joke.
@matt69nice
9 ай бұрын
The same people harp on about how 'the left can't take a joke' and yet here they are
@matt69nice
9 ай бұрын
@fleurdanon poor taste how
@karlschmied6218
9 ай бұрын
@fleurdanon "She's looking down on all of us" THAT is a joke in poor taste.
@MacLaw3084
9 ай бұрын
@@karlschmied6218Royalty is in poor taste. Are you being intentionally ironic?
@MacLaw3084
9 ай бұрын
@fleurdanon Every can be made fun of, get over yourself.
@karmaoutlaw
9 ай бұрын
Decided a long time ago I’d never bow to another human being. My own personal tradition. 🙏
@nmwinrich89
9 ай бұрын
I'd bow if I was in Japan and the other person was bowing as well as a sign that we are respecting eachother as equals
@jackwaycombe
9 ай бұрын
I once worked in a place that receivec a royal visit. I bowed out - if I clearly was to get no work done that day, why be there at all? I mean - I didn't even have any warts that needed curing! One of my pathetic co-workers summed up my absence in a way that impressed even me. "But... but... what if people find out?" No slavery worse than the kind we volunteer for. I have hind legs. Even in old age, I reserve the right to stand on them...
@spacewizard69
9 ай бұрын
I bow to nobody No god no master
@BobbyB24601
9 ай бұрын
@@spacewizard69you must be the ultimate sigma 😂
@spacewizard69
9 ай бұрын
@@BobbyB24601 hell yeah , humans and puny gods
@KendallKelly
9 ай бұрын
I love that you point out something so obvious and so agreeable and they just cannot accept it. They just have to point a finger at all these other things rather than agree with you. I'm so glad that you are having a voice in more media over there. I appreciate your candor and rational perspective.
@JNB0723
5 ай бұрын
"I must have forgotten mine today." I love the humor.
@manisthemeasure2205
9 ай бұрын
Wasn’t Harry talking about figuratively “looking down on us” from heaven? Or am I missing something here?
@helenamcginty4920
9 ай бұрын
Its what we learn as children. Heaven is up in thr sky.
@kuku_rydza
9 ай бұрын
He was, that was part of the joke
@matswessling6600
9 ай бұрын
@fleurdanonBut then the would be no point to the yoke... Seems you didnt get the yoke in the first place and now wont admit it..
@Hibbleton91
9 ай бұрын
@fleurdanon Someone in that position has the right to be offended but it does nothing to change the fact that Alex has the more important right to make the joke in the first place. Many people in that position wouldn't like it? So what?
@chesterdonnelly1212
9 ай бұрын
Harry is a moron. He thinks his mother is a living spirit and he thinks his wife has magic powers.
@artistbervucci1716
9 ай бұрын
These people... comparing undemocratic institution that rules over people, and still has great power, to "wearing ties", is ridiculous. But for that matter - yes, even wearing a tie is not something that should be enforced, just because it's "a tradition".
@tonybaloney8401
9 ай бұрын
You're aware the monarchy doesn't actually rule over the population, right? The king or queen no longer has political authority
@gusgrizzel8397
7 ай бұрын
The monarchy doesn't even rule over anyone. They just volunteer at charity events.
@olliegreen3446
4 ай бұрын
Well, Its not really enforced, if a majority of a population wants to keep it, isnt it undemocratic to try and Cut it away? Also, it holds no power over you, so Why so against it?
@SigFigNewton
3 ай бұрын
Ties are stupid and absurd, yes. But not offensive in the way the royal family is
@djinnxx7050
3 ай бұрын
@@SigFigNewtonI would argue that ties are more dangerous and far more upsetting when caught up in a lathe or woodchipper.
@r4h4al
9 ай бұрын
He didn't mean it like that. He obviously just meant looking down from heaven.
@robertl426
9 ай бұрын
Exactly. I don't believe heaven exists and neither does Alex, but it was obvious what Harry meant.
@GiubileiFernando
9 ай бұрын
He points this out, he knows what Harry meant but he thinks the phrase can be very ironic when you associate it with how the moncarchs think they're above others.
@matt69nice
9 ай бұрын
It was a joke not a serious point jesus christ
@r4h4al
9 ай бұрын
@@GiubileiFernando Yeah, it was a fair comment.
@r4h4al
9 ай бұрын
@@matt69nice I never said it wasn’t a joke.
@iguanarapido2552
6 ай бұрын
Lovely how they all talk over him without allow for a discussion
@alexrdy1986
9 ай бұрын
I am a Catholic and I find your videos on the monarchy very true and funny 😂
@Dan_Capone
9 ай бұрын
Weird take to bring religion into it, but Catholics supposedly wouldn't recognize the validity of the British Monarchy since it separated from the Church and declared itself head of the Anglican Church.
@chesterdonnelly1212
9 ай бұрын
@@Dan_Caponeit's not weird to bring religion into it at all. Alex is mostly known as an atheist rather than an anti-monarchist.
@jazzman2516
9 ай бұрын
Ah yes, the fallacy of appeal to tradition. You couldn’t watch a finer demonstration. 😂
@SineN0mine3
Ай бұрын
One person making a bad argument is not an indication that a good argument doesn't exist. All it tells you is that the person is bad at arguing. I seriously doubt any of the panelists care enough about the conversation, their jobs or their audience enough to take the debate seriously. I don't know who any of them are or why they're allowed on TV, but I'm guessing it's not for their slaient reasoning nor their ability to communicate clearly.
@TheStanDudley
8 ай бұрын
As a Brit this is really upsetting. A panel of educated individuals who still think like Bronze Age sheep herders. Well done Alex, keep fighting for intellectual freedom.
@gusgrizzel8397
7 ай бұрын
The people support the RF as millionaires with their taxes, and they don't even rule over them. They are a tourist attraction, they "work" doing volunteer work. But who gets paid like that to do volunteering and charity work??
@TheStanDudley
7 ай бұрын
@@gusgrizzel8397 the most common rebuttal is they bring in tourism and thus, income for the whole country. I have never found this convincing and I still don’t believe it’s true either. Regardless if it was, I don’t think it’s worth it on a moral nor ethical level.
@gusgrizzel8397
7 ай бұрын
@@TheStanDudley Agree. Any income they bring in is cancelled by the Brit's paying taxes to support them. Allegedly Charles got 500 millions, but is overall worth 24 billion, when the Queen died. They're just rich people. They don't rule over anyone.
@olliegreen3446
4 ай бұрын
@@TheStanDudleyBut Why be so against it? Its not harming anyone, But to be fair, the UK has a greater deal of space between Rich and poor, so money is a huge thing. But the monarchy holds no real power, and stands as a thing for people to unify over. I dont get Why people want a boring republic where the head of State changes every 4 or 8’th year, just to get someone like Boris in who seemed like a Raving lunatic.
@SigFigNewton
3 ай бұрын
@@TheStanDudleyas a tourist, I’d actively avoid anything to do with the royal family. Theater in London was fantastic though!
@michaelduguay7698
6 ай бұрын
It's always so fun watching this knowing nearly every other country on earth finds this to be a ridiculous debate
@LukeVilent
9 ай бұрын
I am amazed how everyone just tries to interrupt you. Are they so afraid of what you're going to say? A rhetoric question...
@fimbulInvierno
9 ай бұрын
It just shows how they are not willing to think critically or reason about the subject, it's not a matter of reason but "a tradition", like suggesting as if something is "a tradition" then is exemt of any kind of criticism.
@scaryperi3051
9 ай бұрын
Alex should debate with an actual, educated monarchist, not just random people who know next to nothing about the subject.
@fimbulInvierno
9 ай бұрын
@@scaryperi3051could be, however I don't think it would do much a difference thou.
@scaryperi3051
9 ай бұрын
@@fimbulInvierno How would it not? Ultracrepidarians vs actual experts... it would kinda have to, no? The UK is not a true monarchy, so it's a very bad example when discussing the actual purposes and functions of the system in question.
@fimbulInvierno
9 ай бұрын
@@scaryperi3051 Because I've seen a lot of similar scenarios on similar themes, for example: when it's said that an atheist should debate a professional apologist or priest or similar, just to end saying basically the same arguments that are already debunked. So I don't think it would change that scenario at all for this specific theme, since it is all based on tradition and indirectly based on divine right.
@scaryperi3051
9 ай бұрын
@@fimbulInvierno Yes, but monarchism is not really comparable to religion in this context, is it? Government systems are not supernatural creations being peddled without evidence or reasoning like religious apologism does and apologists do. There are monarchies without the divine right of kings and even with constitutions--while still maintaining executive power, albeit not absolute. Now it sounds like you're straw manning the government type just because you've been exposed to one version of it, and a poor one at that.
@hexagonproductions2019
9 ай бұрын
British Panels when you criticize an outdated hierarchy: ( •̀ ᴖ •́ )
@j0kerclash289
6 ай бұрын
British panels when you twist the positive words from a grandson about his grandmother into a anti-monarchy jab.
@SigFigNewton
3 ай бұрын
@@j0kerclash289the monarchy deserves more frequent jabs
@SigFigNewton
3 ай бұрын
@@j0kerclash289can’t think of much else that I harbor disdain for about you brits
@j0kerclash289
3 ай бұрын
@@SigFigNewton sure, but doing it at that moment was inconsiderate and rude.
@djinnxx7050
3 ай бұрын
@@SigFigNewtonPreferably with a specific brand of the coof vax?
@164procar4
9 ай бұрын
3ppl shouting words to one man is the perfect way to echo chamber yourself
@Io1564
25 күн бұрын
"I don't think people realise how the establishment became established. They simply stole land and property from the poor, surrounded themselves with weak minded sycophants for protection, gave themselves titles and have been wielding power ever since." - Tony Benn
@ipercalisse579
11 күн бұрын
They stole the land of the poors... Right. I agree. And they profited of that land. But there are also good things that came with them.. they were one of the first countries to abolish death sentence, slavery and to give rights to women
@dennisgoatimer1079
9 ай бұрын
Well you were being pedantic
@olivetree9920
Ай бұрын
This specific bizarre thing is good because we sometimes generally do other weird things
@jrcuartz1829
6 ай бұрын
love that Alex is unleashing his inner hitchens once in a while. its glorious!
@jjbradian3834
9 ай бұрын
I think it's the atheist in us. The thought of bowing, worshipping, and/or submitting to someone else is just weak and creepy.
@Deridus
8 ай бұрын
Unironic "Amen'" from me, a *very* confident atheist.
@SigFigNewton
3 ай бұрын
It’s disrespectful to most humans to bow to a random person called queen. Since I don’t like being disrespectful, I have disdain for royalty.
@SineN0mine3
Ай бұрын
Yes atheists are immune to being oppressed, ask the communists.
@dyrtyharry6789
14 күн бұрын
Wow, that explains so much... it was never a lack of evidence in a Creator that draws people to atheism... it's the refusal to be humble enough to accept the truth for what it is. That makes so much sense.
@dyrtyharry6789
14 күн бұрын
But just for your information...and i'm not evangelist or anything, i don't like religious bs either, but there's a verse in the New Testament that says you guys are more justified before God than those religious losers. Luke 18:9. You might need to learn how to pray soon. (And you don't have to join a church or get baptised or anything.) Just a heads up.
@matthewgagnon9426
9 ай бұрын
Royalists trying not to look ridiculous challenge (impossible)
@Deridus
8 ай бұрын
Supreme executive power is derived from a mandate from the messes, not some farcical ethroning ceremony... If the Brits wand a monarchy, they can have one. I maintained they would be better without, however.
@iamanowl26
4 ай бұрын
most of us Brits have no interest in the royals or the "institution". personally, id strip them of all power and stuff them in a low-income council estate so they can see what actual life in the UK is like@@Deridus
@igorlopes7589
3 ай бұрын
Twisting a comment about someone looking down on us from Heaven into a negative comment is ridiculous
@SigFigNewton
3 ай бұрын
@@igorlopes7589I disagree. changing the subject with a pun while pointing out the ridiculous of others isn’t ridiculous
@Anon1gh3
2 ай бұрын
They would look less ridiculous if they were legitimate hairs, like Simon Abney Hastings.
@johnwestcott5612
8 ай бұрын
Excellent zinger, Alex. Hitchens would approve of that wit.
@juicea6286
3 ай бұрын
Shaking hands is not the same is having to submit to royal people who are in no way better than a regular man
@nagranoth_
9 ай бұрын
Never let the reasonable person finish a sentence, everyone gang up and talk over him...
@SigFigNewton
3 ай бұрын
Don’t expect reasonableness from most people. Expect it least of all from people who have been taught that they have some kind of divine right to rule
@Xerion1
9 ай бұрын
Get em, Alex. 😂
@LisaAnn777
26 күн бұрын
Lol Alex is great 😂 "looking down on us" was a very ironic thing for them to say lol
@christoscorsair5439
5 күн бұрын
Thought he was refuting heaven but nah even funnier
@EarlZMoade
9 ай бұрын
She blundered there asking you if you wear a tie
@iamanowl26
4 ай бұрын
really grasping at straws isnt she wearing a tie is obviously the same has having a family who rules because some f**king sky-nonce said so
@sonodiventataunalbero5576
9 ай бұрын
Well done Alex 👏 As a Swiss citizen I can only shake my head 😂 In our founding myth, Wilhelm Tell refused to bow down to the symbol of the tyrant Habsburg, thus starting our century long history of people's democracy 😊🙋♀️
@Mmoll1990
9 ай бұрын
And then refusing to do anything about the Nazis while storing their stolen riches! How glorious!
@Deridus
8 ай бұрын
Long live the Swiss! Much love from the American West Coast.
@sourabhjogalekar3842
2 ай бұрын
By the order of spaghetti monster , I'm your king. Y'all bow down to me from now on.
@GLYNDYER
4 ай бұрын
Looking down on us assumes Harry has insight into heaven. That’s one hell of a gift 😅
@Greg_Rock
9 ай бұрын
I find it interesting that they didn't say "Looking up at us"
@hc4138
9 ай бұрын
Communism under Stalin was a "tradition" and sort of worked too 😂
@Deridus
8 ай бұрын
Something I never tired of reminding people: It was conservative Communists who tried to overthrow Yeltsin.
@SineN0mine3
Ай бұрын
Communism was literally the Russians answer to replace the monarchy, so I suppose you've got a better plan for what to do when we're done with the guillotines?
@isimioyekunlemarktaiwo3643
9 ай бұрын
Lol Alex was an unintentional troll..love it
@Terrezio
9 ай бұрын
I don't think handshakes, weddings or wearing a tie scrounge off the taxpayer...
@samuelblack4792
9 ай бұрын
So let me get this straight: the best argument for continuing the monarchy is "well we've been doing it for a while now so we might as well keep doing it"? Look, I'm American and don't even pretend to understand British culture, but it seems like a pretty good idea to follow the rest of the western world and get rid of a system that was outdated a hundred years ago.
@gusgrizzel8397
7 ай бұрын
It would be far different if the monarchy ruled over them, but they have Parliament. The Royal Family live in luxury because of the concept of being paid to do charity work and volunteering. People say they're "a tourist attraction", but I think the buildings and properties are more of an attraction.
@timothyirwin8974
5 ай бұрын
true except that the Commonwealth nations, such as Canada, Australia, and New Zealand to name a few regard the RF officially the same as the British in our constitutional monarchies. Canada to your north was formed by those who did not side with the rebellion out of loyalty to their king.
@gusgrizzel8397
5 ай бұрын
@@timothyirwin8974 Britain was stupid to give up its colonies and empire.
@olliegreen3446
4 ай бұрын
So should we end Christmas? Should we end democracy? We’ve been doing both for a while now. The rest of the western world is FUCKED. The weird thing is, all Nordic countries are MONARCHIES, and is some of the best countries in the world. I mean who would’ve thought? We just had the most elegant monarch loved by all danes abdicate, where people fucking cried. Dont tell me monarchy dont work.
@madscientist3134
3 ай бұрын
@@gusgrizzel8397 Royal Family live in luxury because they have inherited wealth and authority. Charity work and volunteering is just a circus they perform to keep the masses happy.
@proudatheist2042
9 ай бұрын
I am grateful that my English, Irish, and Scottish ancestors left those lands to immigrate to America centuries ago.
@timothyirwin8974
5 ай бұрын
Mine too as they ended up in Canada which has the same RF. Some of them got stuck in the states some escaped to the great white north.
@iamanowl26
4 ай бұрын
yeah we might have to put up with pompous royal nonsense...but at least 100% of our children survive a school day
@StudentDad-mc3pu
9 ай бұрын
Alex's point was what I was thinking before he said it. Comparing bowing to a human being to getting married and wearing a tie shows just how little intelect he was dealing with.
@SchgurmTewehr
9 ай бұрын
Who actually watches this?
@littlebitofhope1489
9 ай бұрын
You apparently.
@harman1957
9 ай бұрын
You me and God
@TheAxeter
9 ай бұрын
@@harman1957Which one, Zeus?
@Deridus
8 ай бұрын
@@TheAxeterBa'al Hadaad, in my case.
@maxhowlett9661
9 ай бұрын
"We bow to the institution not the person" how revealing. I'm not sure what's worse, people who simply just like having a monarch and are unaware of the institution, or those who are actively aware of the monarchy as an institution and still choose to bow. I know its annoying these people speak over and interrupt Alex, however in doing so they reveal more and more about their views and how flawed they are.
@matt69nice
9 ай бұрын
They argue it both ways depending on what's more inconvenient at the time - the timeless but anachronistic institution, or the living but out of touch monarch.
@olliegreen3446
4 ай бұрын
Well, to be fair, we do the exact same thing with democracy.
@Anon1gh3
2 ай бұрын
Carl Schmitt rolling in his grave rn.
@SineN0mine3
Ай бұрын
Because they recognise the history of the institution as well as the ways in which it benefits them personally. People like the monarchy because they get something from it. If you want it to stop you need to demonstrate how the monarchy causes actual harm to yourself or others, otherwise there's no incentive for people to change when they are fully aware of the benefits already.
@Anon1gh3
Ай бұрын
@@SineN0mine3 Not to mention all the alternatives are infinitely worse. "Monarchy is the worst form of government, except for all the others" - Churchill if he was a true Englishman.
@_zeege
4 ай бұрын
Probably the first time she has looked up to the rest of us
@Wightkitesurfer
4 ай бұрын
I love this guy more and more, just seems to be spot on on everything
@theactualashley
6 ай бұрын
“you claim to be against an unjustifiable monarchy in the modern day, yet wear clothes. Curious. 🧐“
@ActualToucan
4 ай бұрын
It was pedantic, it was funny, and it was 100% correct
@KohanKilletz
4 ай бұрын
I like to imagine she's down there screaming up at us
@Urielthalas
2 күн бұрын
I didn't know how you Brits still have a royal family. Were it me and someone tried to call themselves royalty over me, that's war talk. We bow to nothing.
@Fordnan
2 күн бұрын
It's the power of propaganda. A good proportion of the population think that somehow our entire economy depends upon one family having extraordinary contitutional powers and privileges....
@Amazing_Mark
9 ай бұрын
The UK 🇬🇧 needs to rid itself of the Royal family.
@Deridus
8 ай бұрын
All of their so-called nobles, really. It's nothing but a caste system and must therefore be ended.
@Hungrycats1
7 ай бұрын
No it doesn't, what we need is more patriotism and our empire back
@gusgrizzel8397
7 ай бұрын
Your RF are living like billionaires. They don't rule over you, they are just a rich family with titles. They are paid to do "charity work" and be a "tourist attraction". But they don't run the country at all. They wouldn't be rich if it weren't for the British people and the property and jewels they've inherited.
@iamanowl26
4 ай бұрын
@@Hungrycats1 as a Brit, we should dismantle the royal institution and fuck them off. bunch of inbred, spoiled, child raping nonces the lot of them
@igorlopes7589
3 ай бұрын
What would this change for better? Nothing. If a change doesn't bring benefits it shouldn't happen at all
@moesheen654
9 ай бұрын
I always said "if the queen drove past my house I would not get off my lounge to look out the window." Now she is gone, I feel no different about it.
@mailill
9 ай бұрын
Are you sure? If the dead queen drove past your house in her ghost car (or maybe dead royalty would rather use ghost horses and carriage), would you really not get off your lounge to look out the window?
@Deridus
8 ай бұрын
I might give the middle finger or use a fog horn. Does that count?
@2l84me8
5 ай бұрын
We need to start questioning these traditions, not pass them on for the sake of it. End the monarchy.
@longbeardbobson4710
Ай бұрын
If their only defence is 'its a tradition based on things we don't believe' then they've already lost.
@Britonbear
9 ай бұрын
She's not looking at anyone, she is dead.
@Deridus
8 ай бұрын
I felt such joy in watching my distant Irish kinsmen singing, "Lizzy's in box." All caste systems must end, especially monarchies.
@crmesson22k
9 ай бұрын
Still bowing even after death 😂
@doktordanomite9105
Ай бұрын
Imagine simping for a royal family in the year of 2024
@pixelpotato4874
4 ай бұрын
Mufasa:"Everything the light Touches is Our Kingdom" Simba:"Wow" Mufasa:"But not the UK,they have Cosplay Royals there"
@johnchambers9836
9 ай бұрын
I was thinking exactly the same. And to then compare it to wearing a tie etc...
@johnmacias488
9 ай бұрын
Goddamn I didn’t think I could love Alex anymore!!!! 😂
@racso1160
16 күн бұрын
Honest and real !! Against programmed minds . This young men his what the world needs !
@ethanbenson
8 ай бұрын
“Gen z get offended at everything. They can’t even listen to opposing points of view without getting triggered”
@Nicolas.Himself
8 ай бұрын
That something is "traditional" doesn't make it right
@Debbie338
9 ай бұрын
Marriage gives you all sorts of legal advantages. Admiring royalty does not.
@Melaheidi
4 ай бұрын
It's hilarious how you could send them all spinning in circles with a simple joke. It shows they don't have a leg to stand on
@brianharris7243
8 ай бұрын
Abolish the monarchy
@deethwarrior
8 ай бұрын
Yes.
@Deridus
8 ай бұрын
*Hear, hear!*
@Hungrycats1
7 ай бұрын
Never, you cant abolish a whole country's tradition and culture, you anti-monarchists are insane
@Deridus
7 ай бұрын
@@Hungrycats1 We may be insane, but we aren't wrong.
@iamanowl26
4 ай бұрын
@@Hungrycats1 tradition is nothing but peer pressure from dead people. so who gives a f**k what they think? also, there are many traditions we dont follow...so why do we have to follow one of the most ridiculous ones? ruled by a family of inbred, child molesting, free loaders just because some fictional fairy in a magic sky land said so? fuck them. kick them out. and at the very least ALL TAX payers should be allowed to opt out of paying for them...then we will see how long they last
@WhoThisMonkey
9 ай бұрын
They literally don't even think, they just voice whatever comes to mind... The whole time Alex is just trying to get a word in between their babbling.
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