Hooray, Michael Blake's video is now up here: • What pi sounds like I've got opinions. Facts, too. My personal website, which you might like: vihart.com
"i didnt really mean to do it but one day i accidentally memorized the first 97 digits this way" excuse me? what? like really?
@noamtashma2859
8 жыл бұрын
yes.
@jonaquinn47
8 жыл бұрын
I memorized 98 for a contest, I got second in my class
@dovelay6434
8 жыл бұрын
+Quinn Hartman second how many did the first person get?
@verab3007
8 жыл бұрын
+Quinn Hartman I remembered 114 digits for a contest and I also got second place
@SebSharma
7 жыл бұрын
K3K5 I remember 14 different poems that way
@CsharpPreza
9 жыл бұрын
Outrageous! How the hell is such a thing copyrightable...
@oVerTheToP5o
9 жыл бұрын
+Filip Kopecký because pi obviously belongs to some1 :3
@TheWolfboy180
8 жыл бұрын
+oVerTheToP 5o it never has and never will
@oVerTheToP5o
8 жыл бұрын
yup, www.newscientist.com/article/dn21597-us-judge-rules-that-you-cant-copyright-pi/ oh new scientist how we love you ^^: but tau, we're coming for you >:)
@floracanou7613
5 жыл бұрын
@@oVerTheToP5o Now I hope Pi is a normal number i.e. it contains every information you can think of.
@Anonymous-df8it
2 жыл бұрын
@@floracanou7613 So then, everything is copyrighted! Great!
@theendofit
10 жыл бұрын
its irrational to claim the rights to pi....luls
@nervosateam9126
7 жыл бұрын
theendofit hope u meant luls in german
@peterryanhamilton
13 жыл бұрын
oh wow, that was amazing! I've been following this Pi Copyright thing too and I couldn't agree with you more. So awesome for you to stick up for Michael like that, and actually step through the logic in such a creative way. I hope Lars gets a chance to see this.
@gingergoose2319
8 жыл бұрын
Wow 97 digits!?! I thought I was crazy and I only know the first 20 or so. ;)
@shmerox7683
2 жыл бұрын
Same ;)
@imnimbusy2885
2 жыл бұрын
There’s only one
@artbyeon
10 жыл бұрын
why dont you play TAU instead of pi, as you said in the last video it is the real pi
@Anonymous-df8it
2 жыл бұрын
It's probably copyrighted!
@ytho3557
8 жыл бұрын
If pi is random chances are that the first several hundred digits of pi will be repeated later in the sequence. Then just use the first several however-many digits of pi in your music and claim that those digits will occur again later so you aren't using the first x number of digits your are using some digits far later in the sequence that happen to be the same.
@Xartab
8 жыл бұрын
Being the sequence random and infinite, any possible combination of numbers should be guaranteed to occur over infinite length. This means that you could literally perform any song with an extension of nine notes or less, and claim you were performing digits of pi.
@rushilu3315
7 жыл бұрын
Batrax I disagree. Pi has never been proven to be NORMAL, meaning that it has all combinations of all lengths of numbers - but it's unlikely that paltry 10-digit or less (compared to the length of pi) is not in there somewhere. Right?
@Xartab
7 жыл бұрын
Rushil U I said nine notes because you only have nine digits to choose from, in a way that every digit is correspondent to a note, not in the sense that you can only play nine-note songs. Of course, you could still use clusters of digits to represent a note, like 111=G#, but that's kind of cheating because you're not _technically_ performing digits of pi. You could still write down pi in a different base than decimal, like an octuagintaocta-basis for all the notes on a piano, or even more for chords. but that sounds like stretching things as well...
@rushilu3315
7 жыл бұрын
Batrax I wasn't trying to say that. I was saying that not all sequences of digits of n-length have been proven to exist in pi (which is what I meant when I said normal). In other words, you can't claim that any sequence MUST occur in pi, because that's never been proven. Also, wouldn't it take TEN notes to represent all decimal digits (0-9)?
@Xartab
7 жыл бұрын
Rushil U It's not _certain_, per se, but if the digits are truly random, and the sequence is truly infinite, the chances of it containing one whichever finite sequence are basically equal to 1 (100%) for all practical purposes. I think that could hold in a courtroom. And you can't have 0 after the decimal point, otherwise that would be the last digit of pi.
@clandestin011
8 жыл бұрын
imagine someone managing to copyright all of pi. boom! everything that can be translated in a decimal system belongs to him
@hellothing
7 жыл бұрын
clandestin011 all melodies are his because everything is somewhere in pi, after all it is irrational
@williamnathanael412
6 жыл бұрын
hellothing How do you prove that any string is included in the decimal expansion of pi?
@timothynaff2663
8 жыл бұрын
I play the cello. bass clef. :'( i started playing the violin. treble. I still havent adjusted to the bass clef after more than a year. I can play te instrument well, I cannot read music well
@phonyshoemaker7379
8 жыл бұрын
+Tim Naff Don't play viola. Alto.
@SubbuFortyFive
8 жыл бұрын
+Joseph Williams (RadiantRaichu) I can read alto, bass, and treble clef
@Kduckify
13 жыл бұрын
This is beautiful. Math major that I am, but also the fun loving marching band goer. YOU GO GIRL
@gegege15813
12 жыл бұрын
And the best thing is that actually literally EVERY SONG ever written can be assumed as a "pi-song", since every pattern of numbers appears, sooner or later, in Pi's decimal expression
@sdegueldre
11 жыл бұрын
What is really cool about pi is that every music piece ever written can be found in it :D
@AnthonyVonHertzon123
12 жыл бұрын
She can sing too...mind = blown. This girl is so talented.
@truemetalsonic
10 жыл бұрын
iv heard Vocaloids singing PI and it goes on for ages.. so many numbers...
@theskv21
13 жыл бұрын
I wasn't expecting you at all to belt out those beautiful notes. :D
@RaymondMessier
10 жыл бұрын
This morning I woke up dreading the fact I had to start studying math again (I'm 50 and back in school majoring in music), you just reminded me to put my math into my music and math-musician it! You have given me a present that money couldn't buy and words cannot express. To the whiteboard!
@49560
12 жыл бұрын
Wow! This is so incredibly creative, I am blown away. You are a genius!!!
@ravi12346
13 жыл бұрын
@TJNerd Well, some songs use more than ten different notes, or multiple notes played together. But if you want to count all possible combinations of notes on (for example) a piano, you could say that every finite song represents some substring of pi in base 2^88. Assuming pi is a normal number, of course.
@MusicFillsTheQuiet
11 жыл бұрын
@Everett Sass Yes, play up an octave. Sometimes two octaves up is also appropriate, but it depends on context and the instrument you are playing.
@joaomatheus6222
2 жыл бұрын
0:52 having your phone number end on 78 is so nice for this kind of "translation" into music
@eyezodiotic3197
7 жыл бұрын
I swear, you're the most creative mathematician I know..
@Semicolon7645
12 жыл бұрын
I like your videos a lot. They are interesting and very though provoking. And as an engineering major a lot of what you say makes sense. Also, your indexing of the notes kinda makes me go *.* as a programmer. Either way, awesome videos.
@sleepernotes
9 жыл бұрын
inside this number of pie, there are my name, your dog, a river, rose, book, my guitar and so on
@syd_the_squid
8 жыл бұрын
I saw River and rose and thought of Doctor Who automatically
@alxjones
12 жыл бұрын
You have a good point, but think of it this way: any combination of digits has a certain probability of occurring next in a string of random numbers. If that string continues indefinitely with no repetition, then there is essentially an infinite number of "tries" at getting that string. To find the probability of getting it at least once, you would find the integral of the binomial distribution for p=probability of getting that string, from x=1 to n, x being the number of successes.
@thelema418
13 жыл бұрын
@jalanatherton From my mem. of the video, he used the exact same algorithm. From my understanding, he did the same thing with the time signature as Erickson. I've a pi song in a scale that uses a synthetic 10 tone scale. This allows each digit to have a distinct tone. Other ideas are to position a No. line next to a theremin - position the hands at the appropriate place on the No. Line. Pi has been around a long time, but Erickson was the first to make that particular music algorithm.
@heizusan
11 жыл бұрын
The hand dance.... could also be interpereted as finger encodings for a piano, or for guitar chords somehow, etc...
@OrgasmandTea
13 жыл бұрын
I love these videos. Passionately. I sincerely hope your naively optimistic hopes aren't crushed by the sad state of affairs the world is in.
@fita-
2 жыл бұрын
girl you have a BEAUTIFUL voice!!!!!
@matterhorn731
11 жыл бұрын
You could come up with a scheme to cover that. Use a few digits to describe the note and then use a few more digits to describe the length of the note, denote time signature, etc., then use the next few digits to describe the next note and so on.
@utkarshsinghal5
12 жыл бұрын
it is a magical musical roller coaster.....
@92Ullmann
13 жыл бұрын
it's so lovely.when I study maths ,what we told to do is to do as much as exercise to get used to it.
@AnimeKitty202
13 жыл бұрын
You have a beautiful voice for such a math lover
@williamgerlach2162
8 жыл бұрын
3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091715364367892590360011330530548820466521384146951941511609433057270365759591953092186117381932611793105118548074462379962749567351885752724891227938183011949129833673362440656643086021394946395224737190702179860943702770539217176293176752384674818467669405132000568127145263560827785771342757789609173637178721468440901224953430146549585371050792279689258923542019956112129021960864034418159813629774771309960518707211349999998372978049951059731732816096318595024459455346908302642522308253344685035261931188171010003137838752886587533208381420617177669147303598253490428755468731159562 That's what I have memorized.
Yes, I can't, I shan't formulate an anthem where the words comprise mnemonics, dreaded mnemonics for pi... songstowearpantsto
@ThorsShadow
11 жыл бұрын
That is SO fucking awesome! You don't believe how much this inspired me! Holy shit! *Writes a song using Pi and its digits representing the notes in the phrygian mode in A* Let's hope, it sounds at least acceptable. I'll tell you how it turned out. :-)
@Alexsuppan
13 жыл бұрын
Great video. It was the first of your's that I can clame to have fully understood - yet I sitll enjoyed all of them
@mdoucet21
12 жыл бұрын
Who are you.....this whole series of video is blowing my mind....
@hoolahooop
12 жыл бұрын
i remember hearing that some laws allow you to have parodys and be safe, i don't ever remember seeing any parody video on this website taken down. Weird Al is completely safe becuase even though he could make fun of songs without asking, he is a pretty cool dude and only makes parodies of songs when the original singer says he can.
@brookegrubb1064
6 жыл бұрын
Her drawing is sooo good
@NicoleSalamen
13 жыл бұрын
Man, I never knew all the cool things you could do with pie! I thought my friend being able to recite the first 200 digits was cool! Eh, I'm still gonna put it in a video. Keep doin' what you're doin~
@Fhuaran
13 жыл бұрын
Was really surprised you didn't mention Kate Bush's Pi song Vi...the only mainstream mathemusical hit!
@rtperson
13 жыл бұрын
@SuperCrakker -- This might be a specifically American way to study music, because I've had a lot less training than you and I've heard of this way of doing things. I've often heard major chords described as 1-3-5-8 (flat the 3 if you want the minor equivalent). Vihart didn't make this system up -- it's just a convention. Also, the numbers move depending on the key. It's not tied to C at all.
@AlexisUnger
13 жыл бұрын
wow I love that line "it doesn't mean you own the C Major chord"
@Zolio6
13 жыл бұрын
@evanthebeast Actually no, since Pi is limited to 10 digits; 0-9. The musical scale is technically not limited whatsoever, and I definitely know songs that have many notes above E on the musical scale (Die Valkyrie, etc.)
@emmamargott7793
6 жыл бұрын
Great job with the art!
@aureliomanalo
13 жыл бұрын
@21CenturyRevolution They were actually two sisters and they were from where I live in Louisville, Kentucky.
@ktperk1ns
11 жыл бұрын
Erm, y = 2x and y = -x/2 are perpendicular. Only time when they don't appear to be is when the 2 axes don't have equal scales (which doesn't change anything, mathematically speaking they're still perpendicular). y = -2x is just y = 2x reflected upon the y-axis.
@sdkudrgn01
12 жыл бұрын
I actually do the music thing myself for certain numbers. Except I don't use the high E for 0, I use the B below middle C.
@burninmunkeys
13 жыл бұрын
@lilshortypie72 Maybe the reason no one got it or that it failed was the wording. "How else am I to pi r squared?" is a very confusing jumble of words compared to "how am I going to make the 'pi r squared?' joke."
@DanialGoodwin
13 жыл бұрын
Great job on the pi ballerina! =D
@kawaiiRin2
12 жыл бұрын
You can sing and you're good at maths? YOU ARE A GOD.
@rxndomfxndom7405
Жыл бұрын
This is even batter when you have heard her singing Tau
@femboy-gardevoir
Ай бұрын
It's been 13 years and I still don't understand why someone would copyright the first 32 digits of a number.
@noodlesthe1st
12 жыл бұрын
bunny is right the combinations in pi are a smaller infinity the the infinity of combinations possible although a very good point and it is very likely that any piece would be somewhere in pi.
@CompulsiveOrigami
13 жыл бұрын
@Alvin940 Actually, I will use numbers to help memorize music because to me, numbers are easier to memorize than notes in most cases.
@nc2988
11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making math so fun! Keep it up!
@Nardellid
12 жыл бұрын
now when someone asks me what i'm listening to, i'll tell them pi
@jalanatherton
13 жыл бұрын
@thelema418 That "algorithm" has been around much longer than either of these people. One may have been the first to apply it to pi, but it's such a natural thing to do that any musician who also loves math will also eventually come to it. C is sort of like the "mother note" and 1 is a very common number to start with. It's like trying to copyright the C major scale, or copyright counting starting from the number 1.
@MorganBak
13 жыл бұрын
these videos make my brain happy
@thecluckster3908
7 ай бұрын
DANG YOU HIT THAT 🗣️
@StupidButCunning
13 жыл бұрын
Wow, now that kind of memorization blows my mind. People ask me how I memorize obscure numbers and letters and combos of such so easily. But that's strictly off memory, Using methods like this is beyond my comprehension. The closest thing to this I've used is Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally (Parentheses Exponents, Multiplication, Division,, Addition, Subtraction) or King Phillip Crossed Over For Good Sex (Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species). I'm also musically inept lol
@Fablefiend
12 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was a cool Vi Hart video.
@Crystal2193
11 жыл бұрын
I feel like vihart could sell her notebooks for hundreds of dollars
@thelema418
13 жыл бұрын
@michaeljohnblake IMHO, I think Erickson has a stronger claim. Even though PI is a number, it is the technique of rendering the number into music that is the heart of the copyright claim. There are lots of options available. Create the song in a different mode, play it on a microtonality scale, develop a different temperament for the sound, etc. You could be like Cage and decide that silence is an important component of the music; perhaps 9 is a rest? There's many options for making pi music.
@kalinoelkers5774
7 жыл бұрын
your singing voice is beautiful
@tbonbrad
6 жыл бұрын
1:00 Cue the creeper calls.
@violetlavender9504
6 жыл бұрын
You can't copyright a number, and an idea many people have had before.
@playinlikejimi
12 жыл бұрын
you talk so fast that it over loads my brain lol. but i like what your saying.
@JohnpRiddick
13 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that she started notating "C" with scale degree "1" instead of "0". I've always seen "C" notated as "0" with C# becoming 1, D becoming 2 and so on chromatically. At least that's what I learned from set theory. Then again, in serialism, you can basically do whatever you want, so when assigning a diatonic C scale with scale degrees, I guess you can start wherever you want. Nonetheless, I have subscribed because of this video ^o^
@EclipsianVanadis
13 жыл бұрын
...finally, if the last measure of a phrase has 2,4,6, then shift the 4th scale degree up by one half step and the subsequent measures has the scale modulated down by 5 half steps.
@dschinni
13 жыл бұрын
once agains proven that math is art just like music and that music is a lot like maths.... and also maths can be beautiful
@srh609
12 жыл бұрын
2:40 oh hey infinity doodle
@prabhbhambra13
13 жыл бұрын
one day i was bored in computing class so i memorized the first 33 digits of pi.
@amattehmaphia
13 жыл бұрын
i deff muted the parts where you sang. but you are AWESOME nonetheless
@carlosdavids777
13 жыл бұрын
Best Sharpie Commecial.
@MrFundiver
13 жыл бұрын
Search for the term 'illegal number' on wikipedia. The numbers are taken away from us one sequence at the time... :(
@martinbroman4010
11 жыл бұрын
Loved your singing! :)
@jamesh625
12 жыл бұрын
The video must have gotten removed again, I can't get it with the link that's in the description...
@JohannesLothberg
11 жыл бұрын
Looks somewhat related to her Infinity Elephants video
@amandasupak
13 жыл бұрын
I'm glad public education has not killed your love for learning!
@ChristineChern
13 жыл бұрын
The Michael Blake video isn't there again. :(
@strangersound
13 жыл бұрын
Excellent. I hope he uses this in court. :)
@VloggingVictor
13 жыл бұрын
You sing beautifully!
@beeble2003
11 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily. It's not actually known whether every finite sequence of digits appears somewhere within the decimal expansion of pi.
@zannnnnnnn
11 жыл бұрын
Your google voice number ends on a perfect cadence :)
@everettsass3801
11 жыл бұрын
there are only 7 scale degrees, what do you do when you come to an 8 or a 9, do you just play the 1st and 2nd up an octive?
@Mortalfreak876
11 жыл бұрын
One thing is if you add more he can not have you take it down because you added your own creativeness to it the same way if you are talking about a song you can play it in the background since you are adding to the intellectual integrity of the piece
@DanThePropMan
13 жыл бұрын
KZitem needs to have someone personally review all DMCA takedown requests. This policy of 'censor first, ask questions later (if at all)' screws over a lot of people.
@GotmyplaceinHell
12 жыл бұрын
i'm in hysterics at this
@capefeather
12 жыл бұрын
The laws do protect these works in theory. It's also true that most of the videos I refer to (e.g. "abridged" parodies) are put back up after the owners fight the copyright claims. But it's ludicrous to even have to deal with that, especially on a regular basis. Then there's that incident where an original work by a group of celebrities was taken down on a copyright claim... It sets a tone where the owner is supposed to give up if the attacker whines enough times.
@nomb3179
7 жыл бұрын
Once I accidentally fell down and dropped my things and somehow ended up spelling all the first 21 presidents of the United States in cursive. Crazy right?
@matschgo22
8 жыл бұрын
If PI is infinite this means that every possible combination of numbers occurs in it - so all songs in the world are parts of the pi-song
@maagnatism678
8 жыл бұрын
Wow, I actually never thought of it that way.
@carateachingstuff
8 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily... 0.101001000100001000001[continue until bored] can be continued indefinitely, without it containing every possible combination of numbers. So just the fact, that there are infinite decimals doesn't imply everything being in it. I wonder if there is a way to prove either way if a given combination is part of Pi or not...
@alberteinstein2665
8 жыл бұрын
+Der Lehrämtler I don't know what you're talking about.
@ad_am3707
8 жыл бұрын
That makes no sense becuase pi actually contains other numbers then 1 and 0 xD
@Ryrzard
8 жыл бұрын
But you can't say for sure that pi has ALL of the combinations. It has not been proven yet. Not sure if it ever will. Most would expect pi to contain every possible number sequence but there's no know way of knowing that for sure.
@mmxbass
9 жыл бұрын
While I'm hardly surprised that that pi-copyrighting yo-yo got laughed out court, I'm surprised it even went that far. In Intel v. AMD, federal courts conclusively ruled that numbers are not copyrightable.
@JoshSundquist
13 жыл бұрын
A clever way to give out your number. I should try that.
@evan
13 жыл бұрын
I saw the video, and I can't believe it got taken down. It was amazing. I am upset
@Catishcat
8 жыл бұрын
Let's copyright 17th root 123!*0.003000187 Because no one ever would use that number.
@tomewyrmdraconus837
8 жыл бұрын
822977180388.19329425533241201(etc) Sure, why not! Side note: Sometimes I love having a calculator that actually exploits the computer as the math machine it really is instead of imitating the woefully underpowered handheld models :-) The next bunch of digits (this took 140 seconds to compute on my computer... if you've got a decent program and a beefy CPU or GPU (if that processing style is enabled in your calculator of choice) you could probably do more than that, that's just the accuracy I went with) is: 292622557362119159027417977356115228690831648769253740588089317175606305131999975008888570029817827291918768105238545474787299688386404387704011838548347364551819207963385549284876464687446590706225542431215374890198297071717508965528562424289764042470768226901266820276257020165066379865335707823804866139858304154028959309515290218560071518105412444837278679831314283673074351650613025603981814158113645217744271121300657372656815844795642875400793341907523791670208250010621024943387982663123880976481538407958605370866236773739243348003381933049373302894060761250660005130368799473546896342395653575157745281797379759898086735074089374107298769834246931470803454627319913981664513599085685368886523450772050440711804318282590904507809500677383141576088235943401233132536673551915098843956256737366903821466801976735953796650023899416739029869305327515630869068044741688083240349131283951520229043973358302790055985504273382772560364131101225899660284270983605801285060740116
@Catishcat
8 жыл бұрын
Tomewyrm Draconus Wow, I'm impressed. But I guess, there is no practical use of that number ANYWHERE... I guess hardest part for a computer was a 123!, which is a ridiculously huge number. Ooooor you made these digits up xD
@tomewyrmdraconus837
8 жыл бұрын
Actually it was the root that was the most problematic for the computer. Roots are never amazingly fast to calculate, the only reasons your handheld calculator does them so fast is that it's working with small numbers at every step, and processors (even the wimpy ones in a calculator) can do each discrete step thousands of times (maybe more) a second. Computers can obviously beat that. My current processor can do billions of steps a second. The biggest issue was almost certainly the decided precision value; I was using 1000 digits which is a lot of numbers to crunch for each step, and also a lot of steps to crunch through.
@yaeldillies
6 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have you just compute e^((ln 1 + ln 2 + ... + ln 123)/17)? It must be much faster.
@winstonvpeloso
8 жыл бұрын
and because pi is infinite wouldn't a copyright claim to (any) digits of pi apply to literally all music??
@skroot7975
8 жыл бұрын
Pilitics. You're a pilitician.
@aSongScout
13 жыл бұрын
Crap. I made a pi song on the piano for my youtube channel last week using the first 120 digits of pi. Does this mean that dude can have it taken down now? Did he copyright using the notes to form a song at all or just a specific key? (I did mine in A Harmonic Minor, a key that is not commonly used.)
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