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@LastHumansGarage
2 жыл бұрын
Man you know how to time these releases J-bro.. just sitting down at my desk for a killer Sunday morning sipping my steaming extra hot Starbucks Venti Toffee Nut Mocha. in Virginia Beach, VA..
@LastHumansGarage
2 жыл бұрын
damn.. i thought old school would have been a lot closer.. technology ftw..
@elmatador4759
2 жыл бұрын
Do it again on a dry surface and give the MK4 some real tires. Outcomes will be quite different
@Jay-mj5lu
2 жыл бұрын
Please do a manual transmission vs Manual.
@oliverdamnsh
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you
@MrFar56
2 жыл бұрын
Drag race starts at 05:52
@diegov7359
Жыл бұрын
Thx bro
@xvzo7
Жыл бұрын
😎
@omarrama92
Жыл бұрын
This really was too helpful
@JahoSelamaj
Жыл бұрын
Thx bro
@tunhanz
Жыл бұрын
Tq bro..so much tq..huhu
@ryanevans8559
2 жыл бұрын
I think the new supra's turbo set up and technology brings it on boost so much earlier. plus its gearbox is geared to keep it in a constant sweet spot in relation to its power band. This is a good example of how peak numbers are not necessarily the deciding factor in how quick a vehicle is.
@_Professor_Oak
2 жыл бұрын
Also traction control vs no traction control in the rain, you could see and hear the mk4 clearly spinning 1st/2nd/3rd. A dry warn day I would say it would be neck and neck in the drags and the mk4 would take the rolls easily.
@speed9539
2 жыл бұрын
That’s because it’s a bmw twin scroll turbo engine haha 😂
@cxbra
2 жыл бұрын
Very well said, also the way the traction control intrudes ONLY enough to keep traction. Car tech is wild!
@ryanevans8559
2 жыл бұрын
@@_Professor_Oak I'm no so sure that traction was even that much of an issue here. It appears to me that the new supra makes more overall wheel torque 'throughout' the race due to how efficient its turbo, engine and gearbox are.
@donkeydeakin
2 жыл бұрын
@@speed9539 glad somebody said it 😂 the b58 boosts so quick!
@Islam_is_the_truth.4
2 жыл бұрын
The mk4 supra is definitely not 700bhp lol with a quarter mile time of over 13 seconds and with a dual clutch transmission unless its been setup all wrong
@chad6876
2 жыл бұрын
Well to start, those tyres are nowhere near enough for that kind of power
@ph3d
2 жыл бұрын
Defo my heavier f80 M3 stage 2 with 550bhp max runs 12.0 with no launch definitely an 11 in it
@chaser_the_dream6798
2 жыл бұрын
@@ph3d It’s newer tech mate. Iv smoked a lot of older ‘big power’ cars in my 700 bhp m3
@RACEPLANETuk
2 жыл бұрын
No grip and looks like driver was short shifting, would be good to see that again in the dry
@markus2jz
2 жыл бұрын
Newer tech doesnt explain the shitty 100-200kmh time. It should be in the high 5's or low 6's. Ok, the road was wet, but still...
@minibotpc
Жыл бұрын
Massive respect to the Mk4 owner for keeping it so civil, well done!
@JonTheCobraCrosby
Жыл бұрын
I always love the roll races because that's how it's done on the freeways ..and you don't have to worry about the tire burn out from a drag start
@pj9375
2 жыл бұрын
Back in 1993, mk IV was a weapon…. And it’s still delivering nearly 30 yrs on! Respect ✊
@marekmecir5822
Жыл бұрын
Well back in 93, if you mean stock, it made old schools 320hp, still a lot
@TheAceKannon
Жыл бұрын
@@marekmecir5822for the 90’s that’s equivalent to the 500+ numbers we see now. That’s actually wild Toyota did this
@juniorcool89
2 жыл бұрын
Mk4 owner definitely taking it easy off the line in the drag race. Small rear wheel and more tire would have been great. Great races
@klean_upguyza6461
2 жыл бұрын
Granny shifting
@ngjason5139
2 жыл бұрын
I think its MK4 traction issue on the damp ground
@peterwho9380
2 жыл бұрын
Yes and I was totally thinking of the same thing!
@marcjohnson6339
2 жыл бұрын
He can't drive. The guy in the mark4. He scared of the car. Nothing but early shifts he did
@justinlikesme19
Жыл бұрын
What do you expect people in america don’t even know how to proper set up on a car.,
@JackMcNeillCars
2 жыл бұрын
Mk4’s turbo was too big, wasn’t spooling up quick enough. Needs some tyres and an lsd if it hasn’t already got one. Not sure about the dct on the mk4. General setup didn’t seem right. Either way, both great cars and massive respect to the owners 👍🏼
@slayerarmy
2 жыл бұрын
@Pops&Bangs I've seen people stay in while they are wheel spinning, by the time they shift, they are already at full boost and go even more sideways. Its damp outside, and those tires need to be warmed up at least
@bman1668
2 жыл бұрын
B58 spools faster than 2jz
@peterwade2389
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that mk4 is a waste with that tranni
@johnmcgerty9320
2 жыл бұрын
Prob has lsd
@johnmcgerty9320
2 жыл бұрын
Facts 👍
@Henjacked
Жыл бұрын
If that Mk4 is 700 horse he’s definitely not giving it everything. Also funny how quiet the Mk5 guy got on the last roll race lol
@mouaxiong8618
Жыл бұрын
I'd say its 100% making 700hp. On every roll it always pulls ahead with 200 more hp it was 2 car length ahead.
@s2e130
4 ай бұрын
Just what I was thinking, got awfully quiet when he started losing 🤡
@vidarodinson5246
Ай бұрын
That mk4 actually give everything and only won in roll race. What makes me bored is how quiet the mk4 guy in every race
@DJBALINHA011
2 жыл бұрын
Automatic mk 4😪😮💨
@BabaYagaRacing
2 жыл бұрын
B58 > 2JZ Change my mind
@duncanlang922
2 жыл бұрын
100%
@v8_sami
2 жыл бұрын
Yo baba I didn’t expect you to watch this channel lol.
@mambamolt7353
2 жыл бұрын
I stumbled across your channel a few days ago, and my goodness is the content great. So I started binge watching loads of your vids much appreciation and thanks for all you do 👍
@scoobysean555
2 жыл бұрын
Your in for a treat 💪 every single video Jamie has done has been top drawer 😎😍
@gmain1977
2 жыл бұрын
You have a lot of catching up to do great chanel 👍🏾👍🏾
@damo8754
2 жыл бұрын
Try start from the beginning bro, you'll get a really good sence of the journey of the channel and its journey to here today. Love that energy Jamie brings hes an enthusiast through and through ✌
@tawon1984
2 жыл бұрын
Same
@JU5TAV6
2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to arguably the BEST AUTO channel on the planet. Much love from VA the other side of the pond.
@anonlincracing2484
2 жыл бұрын
the mk4 pulled harder but u can tell the higher it climbed the torque broke the wheels loose uv got to be a good driver to modulate a machine like that
@siniyden
2 жыл бұрын
ithas 2 modes: on and off due to a big turbo, no matter how you drive
@DMC619
2 жыл бұрын
Mk4 probably needs more rubber, and the Mk5 probably delivers the boost a lot better… I don’t think the mk5 broke traction, which makes a massive difference. Both beautiful though and great content.
@chrismartinez8614
Жыл бұрын
The 1993 supra probably at lower in boost because of that transmission it’s cool but manual shifting would make him win if he’s good at it
@fcwiid9037
2 жыл бұрын
It must be absolutely insane to own a car with these amounts of power. Especially if, like me, you're only use to a fiesta
@joshuadqueen
2 жыл бұрын
It's definitely a wake up. I went from a boosted BRZ that I had for nearly 5 years. The BRZ with all the money in it doesn't even begin to touch the Supra. Doesn't cost much more than the BRZ per month.
@user-li3iq6tv1r
2 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with a fiesta!!
@joshuadqueen
2 жыл бұрын
@@paulharper4196 I think I saw two of those last week. They don't look like they'd melt you, but sexy for sure!
@jamesst1809
Жыл бұрын
What fiesta you got nothing wrong with that nippy cars
@mac4060
Жыл бұрын
Me owns a tuned Palio 1.8r 😂 but at least i am quicker than a new fabrics civic sedan 2.0 and same speed as the new corolla sedan aswell... But civic drivers are always mad becouse they think they own a badasscar which is 5 times more expensive than mine but my palio is quicker haha
@CineeK911
2 жыл бұрын
Love that MKIV, no matter how the race would’ve went, I would always be a huge 2jz fan. Probably cause I was born in 1991 and I’ve got a massive sentiment to 90s cars. That MkV though 👌🏻
@SNIPEYOPIPE
2 жыл бұрын
MkV still an I6 bro. I know the 2JZ is legendary, but times have changed it seems.
@ytsux9259
2 жыл бұрын
The only import engine in the world in the 5s is the 2JZ. Think about that!
@SNIPEYOPIPE
2 жыл бұрын
@@ytsux9259 And it is NOT a daily driver, is it? Who cares about drag cars. They aren't racing dragsters in this video. By the way, it's almost 6 seconds. Nowhere near 5. LMAO
@blazesmooth5573
2 жыл бұрын
@@SNIPEYOPIPE It's in the 5s, almost 6 seconds is in the 5s, 0.1 second before 6 is in the 5s, 0.00001 second before 6 is in the 5s, in no way was anything he said remotly wrong but u on the otherhand. A handful of mistakes, drag races proves actual engine reliability tunability and performance
@blazesmooth5573
2 жыл бұрын
@@SNIPEYOPIPE still an i6 with more hp capability than any american v8
@DareDevilPhil
2 жыл бұрын
Mk4 wins the 2 roll races where he was starting to spool by rolling onto it before the line. Effectively neutralising the Mk5s advantage.
@lesanecrooks6548
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Good discerning there.
@dimitris9573
2 жыл бұрын
Well that wasn’t fair because in the last 2 roll races the mk4 had higher beginning speed of the line
@blazesmooth5573
2 жыл бұрын
@@dimitris9573 redline
@javierpereira7580
2 жыл бұрын
Agree, the MK4 was coming from the back likely at higher speed. To make it fair both need to line up at same speed by the pick up point
@bman1668
2 жыл бұрын
How about if they both were 700hp mk4 has no chance lol 😂 but mk4 is what most people like
@slightlyinsaneraf
2 жыл бұрын
There is something off about that A80. Either the driver is scared to put his foot down, or that car is not 700hp or that box is tuned poorly. I see people talking about earlier spool and sweet spots on the A90, that would be acceptable excuse if they were same or within like 50hp difference, but there is almost 200hp difference, A80 should smoke that A90. I would expect that sort of result from a manual A80 not DSG. I want to see this race again in dry
@yakupbeytut2713
Жыл бұрын
2jz ve otomatik şanzıman en alakasız kombinasyondur 6 ileri short shift Manuel şanzımana geçiş yapması gerekli
@JordieMotive97
2 жыл бұрын
Nathan is a top lad - that MK5 is an awesome build and I’m glad the MK5 hate is starting to die off - Lee’s MK4 is a great build as well but I think he might have been better off with a slightly smaller turbo that spools quicker
@dwaynehenry3281
2 жыл бұрын
B58
@ojdidit84
2 жыл бұрын
And more tire in the rear. Losing way too much traction.
@ant_mk3596
2 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily a smaller turbo because you can get big turbos that spool quick, he just needs one with a lower rpm boost efficiency. Or nos to spool it up
@hunterbolt10
Жыл бұрын
He needs to stop short shifting so much
@cartrips9263
Жыл бұрын
Z4 hate isnt dying off. Its getting worse because they are getting older and and people realizing they are indeed BMW quality. Plus the design is still barf inducing and will be completely obsolete in a few years, like the last Celica.
@hardcoretam
2 жыл бұрын
Older dude was cheating a bit on the rolling start. He was going a bit faster than the young lad by the time they reached the line to nail it.
@Belly4982
2 жыл бұрын
Always same with these role races, pace setter gets jumped on
@hardcoretam
2 жыл бұрын
@@24k__J The Mk4 Supra started much later on the roll to get up to speed. But they were the same level once they reached the line to floor it. If he started much later as you can see in the video, then the only way for him to be possibly at the start line the same time as the Mk5, is if he was travelling at a faster speed.
@Belly4982
2 жыл бұрын
@@24k__J 😏
@RTWENTY3
2 жыл бұрын
Was a savage day, thanks for having me down bro & big up lee’s incredible build 🫡
@officially_gassed
2 жыл бұрын
🏁🙌🏽
@duncanlang922
2 жыл бұрын
What an awesome pair of cars!
@ControlStrategy
2 жыл бұрын
We need to do it again without the rain and craters in the runway!!!
@RTWENTY3
2 жыл бұрын
@@ControlStrategy yesssss santa pod day
@jason21jburg
2 жыл бұрын
@@ControlStrategy you coukd tell how bad the surface was
@anolakes1454
2 жыл бұрын
so much more grip in the mk5, the little aero tweaks, height, suspension setup, tire size, tire compound, less weight, better gearbox, etc. etc. , yea this makes sense also just better driving in general
@a.alamria5702
Жыл бұрын
Since I saw (Bmw) logo on the gear I realized the mk4 owner is joke, bring real mk4 real modifying to shut that kid for good.
@ChefBoyarDEEZ
2 жыл бұрын
New tech makes a huge difference. 500hp now is like 800hp - 900hp 20 years ago
@carlosbarragan1673
2 жыл бұрын
Hp will always be hp, itis the same.. that never changes , what makes the difference is the gbox, ecu and computers technology that makes every thing work perfect not the hp. The efficiency of how the ecu plus engine plus gbox manage to work together.. Hp is the same. 200 hp in 1993 is the same as 200 of today.
@Balmung812
2 жыл бұрын
@@carlosbarragan1673 weight.
@ChefBoyarDEEZ
2 жыл бұрын
@@carlosbarragan1673 yea that's what I said.
@S197kevo
11 ай бұрын
Idk about that I gapped a 580whp mk5 on low boost
@Dragoninja35
2 жыл бұрын
This has given me a new look on the mk5 supra and the B58 engine imagine both the mk4 and mk5 both running similar bhp 🥵😍😍
@duncanlang922
2 жыл бұрын
Some much hate for the mk5 because people don’t want to hear that it’s much better than the mk4.
@stokecityyouth
2 жыл бұрын
The B58 is a masterpiece, it's the mid range torque that shocks most people. A stage 2+ B58 M140i runs into the 7 second mark 100-200.
@oxycotton1742
2 жыл бұрын
@@duncanlang922 it was design to be better ….ofcourse its going to be better….90s car vs a 2020 car with all the fancy tech…..for me the new supra is awesome but they missed what made a supra so legendary …i was expecting the interior design to be more driver focused like the mk4 …but they made the mk5 into just another new fast car …we already have that 🤷♂️…..this is why people keep calling it BMW and making other jokes
@lordoftherims436
2 жыл бұрын
@@duncanlang922 ofcourse its going to be better. The mk5 is 20 years newer. I havent heard anyone deny that. You dont hear people saying the 1965 gt500 is better than the 2021 gt500 for example
@Not_jdm_af
2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't even be fair 😂😂
@2jzhx60
2 жыл бұрын
Nice runs. Was the Supra running less power than 750hp or did it spin in the wet? My 700hp manual MKIV went 100-200 in 6.1 sec measured with the Dragy app, so 7.4 secs is quite a lot slower.
@zol_369
2 жыл бұрын
Yep my 700bhp m3 2jz also does 6 sec 100-200 I think it’s either because of the damp conditions or it’s not actually running the power stated 👀
@Monstero5o
2 жыл бұрын
Why do these big HP racers make the stupid mistake of showing up to a race on street tyres on 18/19inch rims and expect to go anywhere.
@AleGameYT-zd5yo
Жыл бұрын
Me decepcionó un poco esta humillación pero bueno, sigo pensando que el MK4 es mejor que el MK5, solo fué el conductor que hizo mal las marchas.
@CarGuyLife
2 жыл бұрын
What a incredible race! The old supra was definitely struggling for traction if this was in the dry i believe the mk4 would of won more
@karlsilverone
2 жыл бұрын
would *have
@ryanevans8559
2 жыл бұрын
I doubt it. The new supra is on boost so much earlier and its gearbox is geared perfectly for its power band. Traction didn't seem too much of an issue.
@hw6639
2 жыл бұрын
Nope, traction isn´t the problem. The new Supra has the same benefit, if the traction is better.. Ihr müsst mal checken, dass schnell gerade aus nicht die einzige Disziplin ist. Fahrbarkeit ist das *A* und *O* .
@joshuadqueen
2 жыл бұрын
It won't. Doesn't the rain affect both cars or no? I changed my tires cause I moved to WA...rain definitely affects the mkv also lol
@Beansswtf
2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuadqueen Rain affects the one with the worse tyres in the rain more... Mk4 has fucking rubber bands for tyres and the mk5 looks to have proper tyres on it
@gockartzz8272
2 жыл бұрын
On drag i knew the new supra had it because newer cars usually have much better traction than old cars. Well on the roll race i thuaght the 700hp 2j would destroy the b58 but i guess i am wrong
@Jadadidthistome
2 жыл бұрын
After watching this the MK5 is growing on me. They happen to be a lot more affordable than a MK4.
@whatupguy5685
2 жыл бұрын
For now
@KingDiamondBones
Жыл бұрын
@@whatupguy5685 doesn’t matter lol
@ghettolemon3993
6 ай бұрын
as of now the mk5 supra is the best pound for pound sports car for $60k. really does deserve the title of supra. perfect mix of affordability, reliability, and capability.
@guglegugle8075
Жыл бұрын
Wy na tej gruźliczej wyspie rotszyda nie macie nigdy pogody? Jaki jest sens mk4 brać na mokrą drogę?
@abdelkrimmeftah7028
Жыл бұрын
i prefer the old one with 2jz gte even with more than 20yrs still have the best desing compare to the new one
@turbomonkey93
2 жыл бұрын
Man them new supras are soooo much better looking than the mk4
@ETH85
2 жыл бұрын
No !
@MustafaAli-85
2 жыл бұрын
Got nothing but love and respect to the MK4 , but I chosed the MK5 coz it's newer and can be easily modified to 500+ HP. Loving it so far
@streetcarstv5088
2 жыл бұрын
2j can make 1000 on a stock bottom end it’s quite famous for it
@MustafaAli-85
2 жыл бұрын
@@streetcarstv5088 every car enthusiast knows that .. but many people don't know how much it cost to reach 1000HP .. it's alot of cash mate . On the other hand for the MK5 to reach 500HP , it won't cost you 3500$
@MustafaAli-85
2 жыл бұрын
Also , believe me , it's time we look beyond engine power numbers or WHP numbers ... this video is just one example that shows how 500HP modern cars can keep up with bigger beasts😁
@blakew5672
2 жыл бұрын
@@streetcarstv5088 Yeah, they can make 1000 HP on the stock bottom and still run a 12 sec quarter lmao Just look at the leaderboard in this video. Supras run terrible times for the power levels they make, which would be excusable if they’re also weren’t terrible on road courses. Legit dyno queens without a TON of cash sunk into them. At least they’re good looking
@96SupraTT
2 жыл бұрын
@@MustafaAli-85 you're right about 1000hp costs, but 500hp on a MKIV is just a downpipe, exhaust and maybe a front mount intercooler. No tune needed, just pull a vacuum line or 2 although I prefer a boost controller. This was the recipe for 500hp in a MKIV 25+ years ago. Stomped almost everything then, but not so much these days.
@kung-fuhustle5755
2 жыл бұрын
For the old supra, considering it’s age. It’s still had an awesome run.
@llynellyn
Жыл бұрын
It actually didn't, because of the 700hp it couldn't put the power down hence taking longer to get to 60 than a stock car.
@asifkhan2654
2 жыл бұрын
Just swap drivers and youngster would hand over a big bottle of the gap sauce on that bm
@Dan-vt1qt
2 жыл бұрын
I love this kind of videos makes me laugh 😂 is weird when im on the track all the time watching 2jzs making from 1000 to 2000hp sweeping the floor with the new bmws(supras) jejeje
@dub537h5
2 жыл бұрын
The sound of that 2jz is insanely beautiful
@ao8271
2 жыл бұрын
That mk4 is not making 700
@mjo7866
2 жыл бұрын
Tru it wasnt pulling as hard either
@Whifbitz
2 жыл бұрын
No grip whatsoever with the poor track surface and it was pissing down with rain so couldn’t put any power down at all, the traction control was on constantly.
@ALX_Offiziell
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the Video. The old Supra didn't drive fairly at Roll Race. he drove through the line with momentum and was therefore faster at the start.
@Andy-Andeee
Жыл бұрын
What's the retail on one of those? More than you can afford pal, Toyota!
@Khameery499
Жыл бұрын
HOW much did you pay for the supra mk5 with everything in it
@willowm6760
2 жыл бұрын
I think that MK4 has a lot more in it. Suspect the driver was holding back on the drag race. Great cars great match up nonetheless! 😎
@beexiong2995
2 жыл бұрын
He couldn't put power down. And power band is narrow and up top. It's not gonna win from a dig
@aerickvesereu1796
2 жыл бұрын
I think the mild hybrid turbo system in the new supra is the deciding factor. It creates boost much earlier and has a more effective power band. Also, the transmission is tuned perfectly to keep the engine at peak power. The smaller rear tires and heavier wieght didn't help either.
@xborg7117
2 жыл бұрын
Some people cant admit defeat
@loudcars209
2 жыл бұрын
Nice 1,both cars look good but I would go for the new school .
@lee84
2 жыл бұрын
Owned a lot of old school cars, but I’d go with the new Supra just for the comfort and modern features these newer cars have.
@stichupman
2 жыл бұрын
Same. I'm not sure why it gets so much hate. Hardly a bad thing having a b58 in it.
@anti4107
2 жыл бұрын
@@stichupman also the old supra is massively overpriced for a 30 year old shitbox
@Yueymosthated
2 жыл бұрын
@@anti4107 overpriced yes but it’s not a shit box but the mk5 definitely did grow on me
@anti4107
2 жыл бұрын
@@Yueymosthated most are shitboxes and still overpriced because of the age of it and how common it was in japan
@rodrigoaltamirano5439
2 жыл бұрын
Aye regardless how fast the new supra is it will never bet the old school never
@justdoit6783
Жыл бұрын
New (supra) has a BMW engine so is not a supra is a BMW
@edwardcaine9718
2 жыл бұрын
B58 delivering the goods 👌 awesome video
@shepardman993
2 жыл бұрын
Mk5 looks absolutely stunning and can move too🙌 The mk4 think I’d be asking my tuner what the hell is going on.... Great work guys
@maddad9mil
2 жыл бұрын
Homeboy spent a lot of money on that old school Supra to get whipped over and over by another Supra with way less HP. 🤷🏻♂️🔥💵
@maddad9mil
2 жыл бұрын
@L W I did, but as much power as he’s making, it doesn’t put it down like it should. Not worth the money to me it seems.
@maxsidhu3410
Жыл бұрын
Hahahahx this wht hppn whn u give a old man to drive a fast far 😂🤣
@florinrad4647
Жыл бұрын
Bmw prof that is a better build engine, even with less power, wowwwww
@danesmits
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing how he got humbled and grew 10 years older when doing the roll racing, he is a good kid
@sircefiro
2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately modern cars being easy to drive make people into heroes for pushing a pedal down
@anabolicbear719
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome race!! Love the new supra, big things coming to this platform 🙌
@autotrimmers6353
2 жыл бұрын
Seeing them side by side makes me realize how similar they are
@samyyacoob3246
Жыл бұрын
The old school is fucking Amazing SUPRA MK4
@EDIAutoChannel
Жыл бұрын
Mk4 supra was rolling into the Starting line, reducing the Slip, the guy in the Mk5 Everytime would back off a little than WOT and break loose.. Both incredible cars All Supra love very impressed by the MK5 against the old school Monster.
@THEDOPEYDAISY
2 жыл бұрын
The DCT breaks traction on the gear change where as the ZF is much more smoother. If the MK5 had 600bhp with a full hybrid setup he would win everywhere.
@johnmcgerty9320
2 жыл бұрын
If the mk5 had 600 he’d win
@johnmcgerty9320
2 жыл бұрын
Nice pure800 sort things out
@THEDOPEYDAISY
2 жыл бұрын
@L W A car that performs in all conditions and surfaces is always the better car.
@gerasimosdrogaris9121
2 жыл бұрын
The mk4 has a huge turbo on it and I think that its driver was changing way too fast to fully spooll. Moreover the mk4 struggles for traction when the mk5 has so many systems that help it to stay on the road.
@A2J_Tim
2 жыл бұрын
that mkiv is 475 whp at best, very similar mph to my supra with a 6spd, I was running low 12s at 122 mph with 500 whp dyno sheet. I ran 10.8 at 135mph with 700 whp BTW I was at 2292 ft elevation on those passes, not sea level also my targa car weighs in at 3495 lbs
@LLoydDStiff
2 жыл бұрын
Agree 💯 the mph tells the story. That's definitely not 700hp
@TheTruthTeller1111
2 жыл бұрын
My 93 six speed Mark 4 Supra ran mid-130 trap speeds on low boost (18 psi @ 650 rwhp & 575tq) with a 76 mm turbo running 93 octane pump gas. That car is definitely not 700 rear wheel horsepower.
@TheTruthTeller1111
2 жыл бұрын
I live 800 ft above sea level. My Supra was also a targa top.
@TheTruthTeller1111
2 жыл бұрын
I ran a 12.002 at 125 mph @ around 500 rwhp with street tires. I think I was on a 63mm with stock fuel system and intercooler with the stock ECU and a VPC.
@zdoomcentral
2 жыл бұрын
I ran an 11.71@119.6mph in my mkv yesterday with a 1.9 60 foot. Bone stock aside from a jb4 piggyback and some e30 fuel. The mkv puts down the power very efficiently. Catless down pipe and a real tune can put you in the 10s with a tire.
@giridhars8258
2 жыл бұрын
Feels like u raced ur grandfather at a run race and won.😂😂
@I-I-I-I_I-I-I-I
Жыл бұрын
За строй супрой слит старый чел и трогается как старик) не засчитывается))))
@18ksamknight41
2 жыл бұрын
mk4 really struggling for traction, he had to let off the gas on the first roll race from drifting off the strip🤣
@hw6639
2 жыл бұрын
Dann bricht die Power zusammen, darum hat der alte Supra ja soviel Power. Da gibt´s nur *AN* oder *AUS* . Aber das wollen die ganz Schnell&wütend - Bubis nicht wahr haben. Erstens sind das Filmautos, die handgeschaltet einen Scheiß machen, aber keine 10 Skunden und zweitens ist Leistung nicht alles.
@victormwaba6688
2 жыл бұрын
700hp? Nah... Maybe 500
@gmain1977
2 жыл бұрын
It was damp , putting power down not same as dry but different factors come into it
@victormwaba6688
2 жыл бұрын
@@gmain1977 with that into consideration I would love to see a rematch with "favourable" conditions for the Mk4 but I reckon the result would be the same
@keenanallies8499
2 жыл бұрын
This one is slightly tough, honestly for me I prefer new school over old school always have always will don't get me wrong b58 is a Marvel of Engineering it's already a great platform to start from and it doesn't take a lot in order to make it brilliant while remaining reliable (from what I know and what I've seen that's my own personal opinion JUST SAYING 😀) on any given day I will choose new school regardless of the car brand my personal favourite are German cars always have been but in this case of Germany vs Japanese I choose both because I have a soft spot for the Iconic MK4 and its respectable 2JZ platforms of N/A, twin-turbos & single turbo straight from factory for their owners to choose from back in the early 90s over-engineered platform that modern sports cars with the most significant contribution of technology at their disposal that's able to run back-to-back anywhere anytime any conditions confidently but as soon as a MK4 Supra pulls alongside them it's crazy how confidence, arrogance and the cockiness disappears and that tells me one thing or in this case two things you scared because there ain't no such thing as a standard MK4 I've never heard of a standard MK4 or the other thing is probably reason why most of us was so into cars, it's the Pinnacle of where highly tuned began,may even be The Fast And The Furious franchise I don't know why but everything still comes back to one Factor which is the Respect part going up I was always taught to respect my elders and in this case I feel pretty much the same it's been around for about 3 decades feared and respected I've literally just always had a soft spot for them and come on........ you're ever heard of someone who is building their new car and the 2JZ platform is been used tell me that doesn't mean it's serious because all I hear is RACECAR "I bet you if the 2JZ abbreviation was added to a dictionary what do you think it's definition will be let me give you a hint it won't be the engines code name it description should read as follows CRAZY FEARED NEXT LEVEL POWERFUL SERIOUSLY SERIOUS" HAHAHA I'm messing around now but it's more Iconic than a supercar, it's most likely the best example of why we love and are so fascinated by fully built engines and tuned cars there's more than enough reasonable examples all from a mk4 2jz perspective sound of it dumping boost pssssssssshh where I still make with my mouth If you don't like the 2jz then you are clearly not a car guy or you suffering with RB26 fever which is also brilliant but doesn't mean any because R35 GTR has presents but what is a Mk4 Supra is parked alongside it what would you find yourself looking at🤔🤫😏lol
@fp662
2 жыл бұрын
too much
@Skylul
2 жыл бұрын
Bro how much time did this take you to write 💀
@ytsux9259
2 жыл бұрын
The only import engine in the world in the 5s is the 2JZ. Think about that!
@ytsux9259
2 жыл бұрын
@@Skylul He's a mawwwwrooon.
@allwayzactive4599
2 жыл бұрын
Wow 😣 too much.... old always better
@PrettyboyPa
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know why but for since forever mk4 supras from 700hp to -1000hp always seem wayyyyy slower than they should be. I've seen 1000 hp supra run mid 11s in a 1/4 mile all the time. And the excuse has always been it's the tires but those runs were with slicks.
@Wretched2JZ
Жыл бұрын
Why do these Supras w the Beamer transmissions always sound weird. Like they sputter etc. Just cause it’s newer tech doesn’t mean it makes the old Supra better. Just learn how to drive the 6 speed!!!🙈
@onedropreggaedvd
2 жыл бұрын
Good race.👏🏽👏🏽 Both cars I’d have in my garage 💯. Would love to see a rematch on a dry track.
@johnmcgerty9320
2 жыл бұрын
Rematch on the track would leave mk4 behind
@Adam-nv9zo
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video guys. I think the results would differ on a dry track.
@strikeeaglemodels1588
2 жыл бұрын
Very surprised what happened in round one considering the extra 150bhp advantage 😳👀
@TheBb6prelude
2 жыл бұрын
Only built auto supras are fast. Stick shift is a completely turd.
@tomhill2497
2 жыл бұрын
Peak power doesn’t tell the full story. The mk5 will be on boost way earlier and probably has quite a flat power curve compared to the mk4
@ytsux9259
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBb6prelude 6-sp stick 2JZ Supra holds the world record for the quickest H-pattern manual transmission in the world. 😏
@AyaxRo
8 ай бұрын
The MKIV is wheel hopping like crazy. That was the killer. Man so sweet a MKIV with a DCT.. perfection.
@MustafaAli-85
Жыл бұрын
4.2 seconds is a bit slow for 550 HP supra .. but it could be the slippery track .. not sure.. My supra got 4.05 seconds and it's only 447 HP
@kennethwilliams4380
2 жыл бұрын
If the mk4 supra had 305's on the rear I think the outcome of the race would of been different.
@joelwehrli8628
2 жыл бұрын
The mk4 is obviously a legend and one of my all time favourites. BUT the pops and bangs of that mk5 are just brilliant.
@user-ii2nd5zf1e
2 жыл бұрын
Now that's the race we all were waiting for 🥵🥵🥵
@Darkness_Blaze19
2 жыл бұрын
He's holding the mk4 back this is why people need a person who ain't afraid to mash that pedal you can hear the mk5 Rev up when the guy mashes the pedal stop being afraid to mash that pedal it won't hurt the car n plus put a 1 way dif so it won't spin on taken off make it where it will just take off redo this but have a different driver in the mk4
@BoostedAP1
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't even claim 700hp if I ran 13s. Should of just kept it bpu and stock, would of been faster. 😆 embarrassing.
@sssarmygaming9916
Жыл бұрын
If you like mk4 like the comment and ratatatataata❤❤❤
@valso
Жыл бұрын
Nah, these vacuum cleaners are boring! I'd like to see a race between Mazda RX-7 and RX-8 cuz both have wankel engines.
@ChroniclesOfConnor
Жыл бұрын
Let's be honest, that's not 700bhp if it's been set up properly. Also the driver of the Mk4 kept changing gears far too early 🙄
@karinochmorris8256
Жыл бұрын
There is definently something off with that mkiv supra, no way a 700hp mkiv run 100-200 in 7,4 sek that is a terrible time. I used to have a mkiv supra 2005-2009 did a single turbo upgrade (t78, aem and more) and dynoed 627,2 rwhp on pump (you can se the dyno on my channel (bpuad). With that car 6-spd i could easily do high 5 sek runs. First time I tried (with a driftbox) a 25+ hot summers day with half a tank of fuel and a 100kg + passager I did 6,3. That is infinite faster than 7,4, a cold day with out passanger taht would easily have been a high 5 sek run. 627,2 rwhp should be 700-710 crank hp so basically the same as the mkiv in the video. It would have been buss lenghts in front, that mkiv maybe have 500- max 550 hp. Also when I was on stock turbos bpu ca 450 hp I ran 117;5mph in the 1/4. I think anyone can see that with dct anf 250 hp more should equal a lot more than 5,5 extra mph in trapspeed.
@LISASWORLDOFKPOP
Жыл бұрын
Sorry definitely the ugliest update in a car... Paddle shifters inside a old JDM 🤢🤮 talk about early shifting bruh...
@jodlevi4385
2 жыл бұрын
When nissan GT-R comes supra 🫢GT-R 😎
@kevinmcmullen..
8 ай бұрын
Is it just me or is almost all of the MK4 Supra's on this channel poorly built? With weird gear boxes bad tire/ rim sizes, bad turbo sizes. Having owned many Mk4 Supra's myself one of my old ones with 700hp would blow the doors off of the MK5. Wouldn't even be a close race.
@عبداللهالياسي-د3د
9 ай бұрын
The old man should drive toyota corola 🦦🦦🦦🦦
@richardkeane3051
Жыл бұрын
I’d take the mk4, but it’s close. I agree with another comment, seems like mk4 owner taking it easy! Great sounds.👍👍👍
@LLoydDStiff
2 жыл бұрын
That mk4 is not making 700break r to the wheels the mph in the quarter 123 definitely not adding up. On the roll the mk4 with 700hp with a DTC shld be walking the mk5. Ppl b telling these ppl lies about their power. The mk5 550 brake shld b about 500whp give & take so it shld b high 10s to low 11 sec. Those cars run run 12.3 @ about 113 so it's driver & surface. The mph show there were mods
@GEHFICKEN2011
Жыл бұрын
Wow a 700hp mk4 vs a 550hp mk5. Why don't you do a drag race 3500hp GTR against a normal street truck.....let's see who wins🤔🤣. Would love to see the 900hp (stock innards) from MPS Engineering versus the 700hp Mk4.
@derekmthompson6824
Жыл бұрын
So I don't think racing on a wet track on street tires is really a fair race if that thing actually makes 700. You can see him spinning in 3rd. Race from 100mph up and this would end very different. The cars are built for very different things. For example look at the hagerty Mk4 vs bmw M4. Traction matters. And for anything over 600, dct or not you need proper tires and a solid surface.
@truckingjamaicans5045
Жыл бұрын
Lol the Zupra just beat the supra Mk cant do crap even with more power lol you have to be in high gear for that thing to shine
@otoriansaja
2 жыл бұрын
still that's good way for Toyota to use BMW help to reborn the Supra, gonna wait until Supra using the S58 engine like the new M3 Competition , because new M3 Competition is more faster off the line and can keep up in rolling race really long with 700hp Nissan skyline, go check channel "Carwow"
@lunatic20000
2 жыл бұрын
My friend's 550hp mk4 Supra does 12.788 1/4mile on cheap tires and Toyota automatic... so i would say, eather the driver s***s, tires couldn't put the power down or there's a mechanical problem.
@huynh4880
Жыл бұрын
I think this channel needs to get some LHD state side MK4 supras. My Supra is around 550hp and it's doing 11s 1/4 mile? Who are these Supra owners in the UK? They got older ECUs for some reason?
@ICY_Bxi
Жыл бұрын
I think we can all agree that guy who drove the old supra don't know how to shift properly 💀 like frs
@ripsqad8493
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely not 700hp on the mk4. If so, why isn’t it on ethanol 1000cc injectors way to small for ethanol. I make 650 hp with a smaller turbo on my 2J setup but I’m running 1300cc injectors with Ethanol and it’s a beast.
@stuchbrosmnore8627
2 жыл бұрын
When will people realize that the 2JZ is not actually for the Supra A80 and is actually for the Toyota Artisto/Lexus GS that had the engine first....LONG before the Supra A80 MK4 debuted a couple of year later?
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