42 years in the nuclear industry and I have experienced the ridiculous uphill battle that the peaceful use of nuclear power has fought. Great example of how fear and ignorance can have such a negative impact.
@chiragmadkaikar7843
2 ай бұрын
Who will clean the core if it explodes???
@johnpauljones9310
Жыл бұрын
US Navy has something like 5,400 "years" of combined nuclear reactor use without a single incident. And those reactors are on MOVING ships and submarines.
@armadillo9961
Жыл бұрын
Good point but i believe the concern about nuclear power is that its susceptible to sabotage. Chernobyl pretty much led to the dissolution of the soviets
@bobbycallen722
Жыл бұрын
also because the often sit in the coldest parts of the ocean. they never get hot enough for an incident.
@kaiyack
Жыл бұрын
They don’t tell us about their failures lol
@johnpauljones9310
Жыл бұрын
@@bobbycallen722 You really need to rethink this statement.
@johnpauljones9310
Жыл бұрын
@@kaiyack "Naval Reactors Annual Report" is released each year. Google "Naval Nuclear Propulsion Program". Derp.
@bearclaw5115
Жыл бұрын
Kudos to Joe for helping shed some light on a very misunderstood topic. Definitely want to see Stone's doc on this.
@coimbralaw
Жыл бұрын
Kissing a** much?😂
@wessels1980
Жыл бұрын
End offshore wind
@mikerob2134
Жыл бұрын
Lib
@scargamer0022
7 ай бұрын
I might do a essay on this for my environmental class
@runswithphantoms
Жыл бұрын
San Onofre nuclear plant being shut down has cost SoCal immensely. It's ridiculous.
@b_uppy
Жыл бұрын
Was there compelling reason to, like near a fault line?
@evanr.6171
Жыл бұрын
@@b_uppy had a small steam leak and after they fixed it, regulators prevented them from running again
@jesseprairiewolf7496
Жыл бұрын
🦉 🦉
@b_uppy
Жыл бұрын
@@evanr.6171 The steam leak may only be part of the story.
@oscarvivo1
Жыл бұрын
if you want to see the truth, follow the money. a lot of 'green peace' NGOs are actually funded by investors/hedge funds who have stakes in oil/gas/renewables. they set up these environmental groups to put pressure on politicians and brainwash the local population. everytime they shut down 1 nuclear plant they know they have to replace it with gas,coal, and renewables. except usually renewables replace about 10 % and the other 90% is gas/carbon. this is what happens in Cali, NY, all over the world. so the environmental groups are not really environmental and the hedge funds get richer from these schemes while people suffer from elevated electricity costs and more pollution. I encourage everyone to research a bit more on their own and theyll see exactly what im saying with factual evidence.
@jopo7996
Жыл бұрын
Oliver "Misinformation about nuclear is just the tip of the spear." Joe "Have you seen an Orangutan fishing with a spear?" Oliver "What? No, I just meant that..." Joe "Jamie, pull up the spearfishing Orangutan for Oliver"
@yoimdope1117
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@ababab45
Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@StoutProper
Жыл бұрын
A depleted uranium tipped spear
@t_smittty
Жыл бұрын
Best comment I’ve seen in months
@RichardDuncan-ju1xk
Жыл бұрын
That's what makes his show popular, mad tangents and the fact he goes back to the point.
@Mica272
Жыл бұрын
I'm from Slovakia, we have a nuclear power plant, I live 40 km away..... 😅 We don't think of it as unsafe, it's cheap energie source. My neighbours work there and from his words they have to pass many tests, checks to make sure all is safe, the plant has to meet safety standards. However, accidents can happen. That's life.
@StanHowse
Жыл бұрын
Because you're not American.. Being from Slovakia, I'm sure you're no stranger of Propaganda. Which is why a lot of Americans are "deathly", wrongly-so , afraid of Nuclear Power. (At least, in their backyards) They've mostly been lied to.
@KensCounselingCouch
Жыл бұрын
Nuclear plants are designed with MULTIPLE redundant safety systems. Chernobyl happened only because the guy in charge that night forcibly bypassed these safety systems, and because it was during the Soviet Union , none of the staff felt like they could speak up regarding his actions to stop him. All to try and get an overdue safety check completed (ironically).
@DirkShotojima
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but everyone knows Slovaks aren't quite right in the head
@Ichabod_Jericho
Жыл бұрын
I read in my Uncle John Bathroom Reader that the reaction happened cause his shoe fell into a reactor from the top while he was on a catwalk 😂
@bornfree8073
Жыл бұрын
@@KensCounselingCouch something like 80 percent of them leak. So clearly not oversafe
@robtipton
Жыл бұрын
He seems so shocked about Jamie getting facts 😂😂 great show as always
@likejimi5845
Жыл бұрын
I was just about to say this lmaoo. The 2nd time when he was like "Jesus Christ" in such a shocked voice I lost it 🤣
@mr.b3168
Жыл бұрын
@@likejimi5845 lmao right
@DannySullivanMusic
Жыл бұрын
you are _100%_ right
@alandestephano7606
Жыл бұрын
Jamie is the best in the business tho lol
@richardharris492
Жыл бұрын
But then he quoted some BS numbers where was Jamie to correct him???
@luciddreams5272
Жыл бұрын
As a ex navy nuke operator on aircraft carriers nuclear energy is very safe and powers our naval fleet. Subs and carriers to be precise.
@luciddreams5272
Жыл бұрын
Also these are war fighting machines put under immense stress and battle rhythms yet there has been zero and I mean zero nuclear accidents in its nearly 70 year existence. Wake up people.
@notnotkevinjohn
Жыл бұрын
It's true, but I think we've been significantly held back by our reliance on naval reactor design. Most of our power plants are just scaled up versions of what we use in naval applications, where there are all kinds of reactor designs that would be better for large scale power generation applications where they aren't surrounded by sea water.
@garyphisher7375
Жыл бұрын
At Uni, one of my Tutors served over 10 years on a Nuclear Submarine. In every lesson he would incorporate his submarine stories into the lesson - really liked him. Anyway he said that Diesel powered submarines were better than Nuclear powered submarines for one reason - on a Diesel submarine you can turn the engine off - which is very important when you know other Subs in the area are trying to hear you!
@luciddreams5272
Жыл бұрын
@Kevin John oh yea I agree there are so many awesome new designs out in the industry. I feel like our fleet could go for a upgrade too. Interesting that you bring it up since Admiral Rickover was probably responsible for that fact you brought up.
@luciddreams5272
Жыл бұрын
@Gary Phisher that's fair but the disadvantage is you need air to make diesel work kinda hard to do under water. I always felt a natural circulation reactor would be a more ideal design for the subs
@RoundtreeattheGrosvernor
Жыл бұрын
It's the horror of a plane crash or a nuclear meltdown that makes people nervous. Stellan Skarsgard doesn't make an HBO miniseries about a fender bender.
@GenghisKhan311
Жыл бұрын
The moment oliver realized he could research in seconds was halarious
@tuberroot1112
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that could have been real useful to him to check out his ideas about Armageddon, and FF "destroying the universe" or 33m tsunamis. He is more full of shit than Al Gore.
@sentientcardboarddumpster7900
Жыл бұрын
Omg that is hilarious 😂
@andrewferguson8032
Жыл бұрын
Oliver was trying to remember how to use the Dewey Decimal System and he was going to pause the interview so he could run to the library, but Jamie had it ready
@MambaaWoW
Жыл бұрын
“I’m surprised you remembered” “Oh Jesus Christ you got it right there” 🤣🤣
@sentientcardboarddumpster7900
Жыл бұрын
@JD begs the question, has Stone been notoriously stubborn about technology for like, decades or something? That really seemed to surprise him, genuinely
@Kestrel66
Жыл бұрын
Oliver has a very consistent breathing pattern. Good for him.
@tuberroot1112
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, he sounds just like Brandon explaining why I need a vaccine. LOL.
@barrettwittkamp6166
Жыл бұрын
Lmao!!!!! I didn’t hear it until I read this
@Kestrel66
Жыл бұрын
@@evfields24 yes read my profound literature peasant.
@CantTellYou
Жыл бұрын
consistent nose-wiping schedule too
@jebby16
Жыл бұрын
@@CantTellYou From all the coke he did in the eighties.
@lucasjharr6
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Joe! You've had on some great guests, Oliver Stone is my hero. I've gotten near a college education listening to you - the College of Thought. I am looking forward towards a life as a parent.
@Ichabod_Jericho
Жыл бұрын
There’s 8 billion people. Why make another human? You should’ve made a Megatron or a Godzilla or a Super Saiyan.
@lucasjharr6
Жыл бұрын
@@Ichabod_Jericho I am only human. Leave it alone
@lucasjharr6
Жыл бұрын
@@Ichabod_Jericho It is cool. I will write him a rock song. I am a metal guitarist.
@mitchellwright5478
Жыл бұрын
As per usual with humanity, our tools and resources aren’t really the problem more often than not, it’s how we use them and a lack of care and respect for them
@trentcook8021
Жыл бұрын
They
@0xsupersane920
Жыл бұрын
Oliver Stone: "The spider bites the man and he becomes..." Joe Rogan: "The Hulk, yeah" Oliver Stone: "Spider-Man" 3:07
@NickHabermehl
Жыл бұрын
And then continue a discussion on misinformation caused by comic books?
@Julia-uh4li
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha 🤣 Maybe Joe is stoned again 🫠 Hilarious 🙃
@jackb8598
Жыл бұрын
That’s actually hilarious.
@divinethug1
Жыл бұрын
I think he meant that the Hulk was created due to Gamma radiation lol
@MAKABALLA
Жыл бұрын
The spider that bit Peter Parker was also radioactive, right?
@boromirofmiddleearth557
Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing this documentary. The French and Swedes have developed some very safe and excellent nuclear power plants. The US Navy has an incredible history of safe operation of nuclear reactors on board its subs and carriers. The Soviets did not have the same safety protocols unfortunately.
@pablorages1241
Жыл бұрын
It's a shame France has had 100's of nuclear spills since they started using nuclear and have no idea what they are going to do with all the nuclear waste that is sitting in decaying storage containers
@johnstrawb3521
Жыл бұрын
Gosh! Only ONE of twenty nuclear reactors was destroyed in Japan. Stone needs to rethink his presentation.
@maximmatusevich3971
Жыл бұрын
And yet ROSATOM is a world leader in safe nuclear energy with unique innovations in MOX fuel and fast neutron reactors. HBO did not do justice with that show.
@vs-yy5cx
Жыл бұрын
I would bet the chinese have a bad safety rating as well
@pablorages1241
Жыл бұрын
@@vs-yy5cx You would never find out ... if France, Japan and Russia have all had radiation leaks ... you can BET China has too
@CERWINVEGAredRING
Жыл бұрын
The simpsons probably played a pretty big role in giving people this kind of impression..
@ezeqeel8352
Жыл бұрын
Only flaw Burns' nuclear power plant ever had was Homer.. The safety inspector.
@notnotkevinjohn
Жыл бұрын
In fairness, Hank Scorpio ran a nuclear power plant that didn't seem to have the problems that the Springfield plant had; and he even had Homer working there.
@StoutProper
Жыл бұрын
I think the sketchy safety record of the nuclear industry is the biggest factor. Also the hysterical Western propaganda about Chernobyl and the big cover up that happened over 3 mile island and Fukushima
@CERWINVEGAredRING
Жыл бұрын
Y’all forget the nuclear lake which mutates things in it? 😂
@Julia-uh4li
Жыл бұрын
DOH!
@jordan2d2
Жыл бұрын
We have had nuclear power on aircraft carriers for over 40 years with people living literally on top of it.
@reececarr2784
Жыл бұрын
Also submarines
@QigongGreyDragon
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but not many have been bombed or destroyed. Look what depleted uranium shells did to the soldiers and their kids. And that was (depleted) uranium. Some of that farmland will never be farmed for at least another 100 years.
@QigongGreyDragon
Жыл бұрын
When it's polluting the bottom of the ocean we might think otherwise.
@workingshlub8861
Жыл бұрын
@@QigongGreyDragon if a US ship is sunk by an enemy force the ocean pollution will be the least of our worries...
@QigongGreyDragon
Жыл бұрын
@@workingshlub8861 trust me your going to have a whole fleet soon enough. I know you have major worries I'm Allie to China my friend 👍 I'm just stating that we rarely have destruction of such vessels and Russia, China, UK and even AUSTRALIA have nuke subs so its an Endless cycle of destruction. Nuclear is deadly. If the sodium alone hits water.....wow!
@unitedintraditions
Жыл бұрын
Watched the whole pod...Oliver did an excellent job of interviewing Joe
@coimbralaw
Жыл бұрын
The smart a** commentary is played out
@pablorages1241
Жыл бұрын
It's obvious Stone doesn't understand Nuclear energy very well
@MadGeorgeProductions
Жыл бұрын
@@pablorages1241 Oh really? What did he get wrong?
@dancrooks3740
Жыл бұрын
my entire life I've heard the nuclear power luddites suppressing progress that would create more energy for more people safer than anything else - it is great to hear a change from that camp. let's hope it spreads.
@tuberroot1112
Жыл бұрын
So as soon as we work out what to do with 200,000 year nuclear waste, we can start making 50 times more of it and call it "green".
@bhorny1
Жыл бұрын
This conversation avoid the actual problems with nuclear energy. The storage of the nuclear waste.
@replexity
Жыл бұрын
@@bhorny1 Theoretically, the average nuclear waste created by one person for an entire lifetime would vacate as much space as a can of Coke. A handful of dedicated bunkers created exclusively to house depleted fuel rods would last us for centuries to come. Really is a bummer that it’s so nasty for such a long time though
@williamsmitherson2170
Жыл бұрын
@@replexityYeah that's pretty bad, if it wasn't for the decay lasting so long it would be great. But the waste it produces makes it one of the worst sources of energy.
@daintree2455
Жыл бұрын
@@bhorny1 actually I thought they addressed waste storage adequately.
@Memememe-is1yn
Жыл бұрын
I volunteered in Iwaki, 45km south of Sendai to help those displaced after the tragedy there. The reason that plant exploded was due to governmental mismanagement during the design/building process. A US company helped to build the plant along the ocean coastline. The normal design of a nuclear plant in such a spot has the water cooling pumps (used to pump salt water into the main chamber when a meltdown is imminent to cool it down) are placed inland and are surrounded by a high concrete wall specifically to protect them in the case of a tsunami. The government officials in Japan didn't like how the pumps and walls looked (not kidding) from the surrounding area and insisted that the pumps be placed on the ocean side of the reactor and the wall made shorter or they would pull the contract. True story.
@rileyfuller6481
Жыл бұрын
That’s still our fault lmao. The company should have recognized the risk not their reward.
@chrisbarriere101
Жыл бұрын
No excuses
@heinzweber7642
9 ай бұрын
True
@heinzweber7642
9 ай бұрын
True. German Dipl.phys.Ing. going "nuclear" since 31 years, now in canada....😂
@shellcase1436
Жыл бұрын
I am training as a Equipment Operator in a Nuclear Plant right now. I’m glad that people are realizing that nuclear is much safer that most people expect.
@johno1544
Жыл бұрын
Ridiculously more energy density than any other fuel millions of times more which is hard to wrap your head around. The advancements in fuel recycling are also super interesting.
@actualitesovni
8 ай бұрын
Exactly what an operator in fukushima said before it failed
@KentoLeoDragon
Жыл бұрын
The problem isn't that nuclear power might give you a teeny weeny hangnail. The problem is when a big thing happens, it wipes out a whole region of the earth. Ooh, I might get in a car crash, but that's not very likely. Yeah, and your whole part of the planet is now uninhabitable. Japan is one of the wealthiest countries on Earth with the most state of the art disaster preparedness and their economy was kicked hard in the balls.
@jackb8598
Жыл бұрын
Completely agree and I could not have said it better.
@PeterMacland
Жыл бұрын
"we talked to Russian scientist about Tchernobyl and they told us it didn't happen the way we thought" yeah no shit
@ejayman
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I respect Oliver Stone but I had to rewind that bit because I thought I misheard. Sure Chernobyl took some dramatic licence, but anyone who says "it's a complete fabrication, we asked Russian scientists" needs to get their head checked. I thought they actually did quite a good job of showing that it was poor technical practices and chain-of-command issues that caused the disaster, not the inherent dangers of nuclear energy
@jamescook6564
Жыл бұрын
Well, do you believe anything the Russians tell you?
@r.daneel.90
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that part was kind of stupid. Even if he had asked ukrainians it would be a bit dubious version. The fact that he questioned the Russian version so little....
@stars_and_tarot_YT
Жыл бұрын
@@ejayman i swear to god, he must be going mad
@JewTube001
Жыл бұрын
@@r.daneel.90 Russian version? He said Russian scientist, not Russian ministry for information. Would you expect every American scientists to be a propaganda bot too?
@shovelhead56
Жыл бұрын
So relieved to know that a Hollywood Director and a UFC commentator have the Nuclear Reactor controversy All Worked Out😂
@rpe7418
Жыл бұрын
The only controversy is the massive amount of misinformed people there are
@willia3r
Жыл бұрын
@@rpe7418 the ☢️ Nuclear Power Industry have done an extremely pitiful job of being honest and open about all aspects of Nuclear Power to include the part about the waste and where it has to be stored and why. And that aspect will never go away. It literally cannot. Corporations are too flawed to do anything any better than what they are doing now.
@tbayley6
Жыл бұрын
@@willia3r I think most of us are aware that nuclear waste must be stored for thousands of years, but don't understand that the amount is relatively small. Somewhat humorous take here: kzitem.info/news/bejne/wnqL3HeCeqJhqIo
@willia3r
Жыл бұрын
@@tbayley6 I beg differ on the _”most”_ part. Also, have to take note of the term you used _”relatively.”_ The standards differ from person to person. And in the case of nuclear waste, the standard probably vacillates between the corporate suits and the Government folks.
@TheNitroG1
Жыл бұрын
We have literally solved the waste problems over a decade ago. They don't store it in Simpsons style nuclear barrels. Like almost everyone thinks. The containers they put the stuff in now, you could drop it out of a plane from 30,000ft and it wouldn't leak. That's not even mentioning if we had simply invested in the research the LFTR reactor would be turning that nuclear waste into more fuel and the output waste from that is a material needed for batteries they use for space travel and is EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE TO PRODUCE any other way. What you don't realize is the hippies who were a fringe minority were actually unknowingly doing the bidding of big oil.
@Minoltalphafan
Жыл бұрын
When I want to learn about nuclear energy, I go to a movie director...
@chellewatson
Жыл бұрын
Trump said clean coal because explained many times that he meant the process we use to extract it is much more energy efficient then the way China and other countries mine it. It’s better for the environment for the US to mine coal than it is for China.
@VTG873
Жыл бұрын
Nuclear power is a great threat to society if the power goes out it's curtains... A military target for any rival Nation
@kokofan50
Жыл бұрын
Reactors can power their own cooling systems or use their backup generators. Reactors have containment buildings that can withstand jets crashing into them, and militaries aren’t stupid enough to create exclusion zones in territory they’re trying to control
@brian2440
Жыл бұрын
How exactly do you imagine that happening? I’m quite confused how people think these things are made of paper, when the entire purpose of the containment structures is to block high energy radiation which requires extremely dense materials.
@kokofan50
Жыл бұрын
@@brian2440 most people think reactors are just in like a shed
@JewTube001
Жыл бұрын
So? Everything of worth becomes a military target. That means every power plant type. Just look at the dam that got blown up in Ukraine.
@jeremysametz1699
Жыл бұрын
Regarding "backup" energy. 12:32 "the point is when they [renewable wind and solar] run out, what they need is gas backup." That goes for gas too. When you run out of gas, you need gas backup.
@kushologist_420
Жыл бұрын
People out here in California think that their Tesla's charge from clean energy have no idea that it comes from coal fired plants to the electric plant. We definitely should have kept our nuclear program going..
@surrealestate06
Жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of Bill Gates but when I saw the docu-series episode about Thorium reactors I couldn't understand why nobody was talking about this. A) They are air cooled so they don't explode and B)They can use the depleted rods from existing plants giving the U.S. about 300+ years of fuel. Build hundreds of them, decentralized all over. Jeez
@wtice4632
Жыл бұрын
The government hates decentralization
@magician_aleks2726
Жыл бұрын
@@wtice4632and that's why we need to do it
@hanss.5291
Жыл бұрын
@@magician_aleks2726 Unfortunately corporate america and the government are on the same page on this one. There's not a lot of profit in abundant clean energy.
@nathanberry1093
Жыл бұрын
He ain't got no time for that He's busy spraying to block the sun, buying up farmland, and putting mRNA in our foods!
@surrealestate06
Жыл бұрын
Also interesting that the reactor company Gates invested in was just about set to run a small scale test of their design in China when the U.S. government imposed trade restrictions that put an end to that.
@TonyDucks89
Жыл бұрын
I know when I have concerns over nuclear power I turn to Oliver Stone for his expertise.
@teddayer6523
Жыл бұрын
It’s so wise from Mr Stone. Listen also to the famous French Ingenieur J-Marc Jancovici about this. Thanks Joe.
@tankerd1847
Жыл бұрын
I think it's crazy how many people are head over heels over the hype for electric cars but are scared to death of nuclear power. You aren't going to power these freaking cars with coal and natural gas and actually make an improvement to pollution output, and you aren't going to do so without outrageously cranking up the price of electricity for everyone. We should save convenient, portable fossil fuels for transportation with a healthy mix of electric cars FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT THEM and turn around and make the power grid nuclear. That includes making more natural gas powered vehicles once you liberate that resource from the power grid. That would actually secure our energy situation going far into the future while reducing pollution on both the transportation AND the electricity generation fronts. We need to take REALISTIC steps with the quality of peoples' lives in mind. Instead we have our boneheaded government gobbling up hype from industrialists and throwing all our money at an even more unsustainable fantasy that we're going to turn the transportation system all-electric. It's so dumb.
@matthewgibson6013
Жыл бұрын
My dad worked at a nuclear power plant in lousiana. There was a spill. My dad was never the same. The money they gave him got him and his family still in poverty.
@MrNelahem
Жыл бұрын
This reads weird. why do you say the money they gave him and his family like you are not part of that family, when you start it off saying my dad.
@matthewgibson6013
Жыл бұрын
@@MrNelahem im not apart of his family. He is my biological dad but didnt raise me. Its okay to not understand but to call a thing u dont understand weird make u weird to me.
@MrNelahem
Жыл бұрын
@@matthewgibson6013 had you have written that differently there would have been no need to me to request clarification.
@adampeaston2076
Жыл бұрын
My understanding of the danger of radiation damage to the body is that ionising radiation actually damages the genetic material, so that even when cells die and are replaced as the body repairs itself, the replacement is with cells that also carry the genetic damage which can ultimately cause cancer. Similar mechanism as repeated sunburn causing cancer, your body repairs the heat burn but its the damage to the genetic material that causes cancer down the track. Thought this would be worth sharing for nuance. That said, I am 100% for safe nuclear power!
@BubAnthony-q6i
Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@notnotkevinjohn
Жыл бұрын
I don't think that's correct. It's not like when you damage the DNA of a given cell, it replicates that damage to other cells in the body somehow. I think your worst case scenario at the cell level is that you damage the cells copy of DNA to the point where it can't repair itself and the cell dies. If this happens to a large number of cells in a given organ, you can certainly die from it, but I don't think there is radiation damage where you live, but you have life-long damage to your DNA or something like that. I don't think its right to say that the DNA repair mechanisms get broken, they just get overwhelmed.
@shadowpathfinder7723
Жыл бұрын
If radiation worked that way super powers would be a plausible result of the mutation. I'm told radiation _can't_ cause super powers so I have to assume radiation doesn't work that way
@SirGriefALot
Жыл бұрын
I think radiation only damages cells that are dividing and that's why it's used against cancer because cancer cells are always dividing rapidly out of control.
@djackson4605
Жыл бұрын
You're correct, but tons of behaviors (that many think of as "normal") do the same thing. Eating anything over 30% of your food intake from ultra processed foods (barring athletic lifestyles or heavy labor), will pretty much ensure people get fatter, dumber, and weaken their genetics. Most people are literally doing this everyday, along with a string of other disastrous health decisions. So we've already passed that point by our own volition... I don't get why we'd be hesitant at this point.
@atomic4650
Жыл бұрын
France has the most nuclear plants in Europe, and therefore is almost entirely self sufficient for its energy.
@Paddyandpoppy
Жыл бұрын
And the electricity charges are huge
@PBNIP
Жыл бұрын
Wait till your figure out who mines the uranium
@dertythegrower
Жыл бұрын
No And its not safe.. leaking in miami at turkeypoint
@dertythegrower
Жыл бұрын
@@Paddyandpoppy exactly just like miami.. and their plant is leaking south of downtown
@dertythegrower
Жыл бұрын
Miami has it and its leaking into national park, kido 😮
@WillCarter1976
Жыл бұрын
I don't fear the technology, I fear the lack of competency required to wield the technology responsibly and safely. The last thing we need are the power companies hiring their reactor operators based on "diversity quotas".
@Nill757
Жыл бұрын
If they hire incompetents to run a modern light water fission plant then the worse they’ll do is break the plant. Not going to hurt anybody outside the plant. That’s what we know now from Japan, TMI. But put incompetents on an oil train running through Quebec (2013) and half the town burns down, or something like that, with a refinery or a pipeline or a coal mine. Happens all the time.
@JewTube001
Жыл бұрын
you watch too much simpsons. homer is not a real person.
@SouthParkCows88
Жыл бұрын
Japan and France are great examples of why nuclear is a great power source.
@JETZcorp
Жыл бұрын
Japan has really ramped down on their nuclear since Fukushima. They're leaning heavily on gas imported from the US now. I don't agree with it, but after all Japan has been through I kinda get it. People think of the Godzilla thing in terms of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but it was actually in response to the Castle Bravo incident.
@just_me2797
Жыл бұрын
You mean the 7% of energy that Japan gets from nuclear? The, I believe currently, 9 reactors out of 54 that are online after the fukushima incident?
@white69cracker
Жыл бұрын
Thanks to nuclear radiation Japan has given us hentai Long Live Hiroshima Radiation Survivors
@SouthParkCows88
Жыл бұрын
@@white69cracker I'll take radiated henti over windmills any day. 😂
@JETZcorp
Жыл бұрын
@@white69cracker My Mazda Miata was built in Hiroshima. It's the loli of cars, lol.
@countchoculitis1528
Жыл бұрын
"You get radiation from eating a banana" Needs to be on a T-Shirt. Jamie, see if you can get that made into a T-shirt....
@Amanda-yf7vj
Жыл бұрын
China also buys most of our coal. They also have the lease on the beryllium in Utah. We have screwed ourselves so horribly
@wtice4632
Жыл бұрын
If cox had a spine he would end that lease.
@wtice4632
Жыл бұрын
@@killdizzle china wont stop buying food over ending a mineral lease. We shouldnt be giving them rights to strategic natural resources. Minerals are finite, fish are not.
@SpeedRacer-pz9jn
Жыл бұрын
Of course they want to control the ingredients of FLIBE salts. Like rare earth minerals.
@Amanda-yf7vj
Жыл бұрын
@@SpeedRacer-pz9jn they are everywhere one belt one road initiative
@Wickedreptiles
Жыл бұрын
I think it’s less about how many people have died from nuclear accidents compared to car accidents and more about the fact when a nuclear accident does happen regardless how few times it has happened the land and water can be contaminated for thousands of years and make whole countries unlivable. If the Chernobyl fire hadn’t been delt with in the manner it did it could have killed millions and made an entire continent unlivable. Opposed to a car crash accident is cleaned up in under an hour and everything is back to the way it was
@Robert-cu9bm
Жыл бұрын
Let's not get Russians to build and run our nuclear power stations then. French have never had a problem
@failsaferecords
Жыл бұрын
and they still don't have the skill and technology to deal with the meltdown. The elephants foot is still burning into the ground at chenobyl, Fukushima is still going, they can't put it out. Accidents may be rare but when they happen we are unable to address them. We can start the fire but we can't put it out, yet, and Stone and Rogan didn't acknowledge that very important point, which makes Stone's film and this interview propaganda.
@Wickedreptiles
Жыл бұрын
@@failsaferecords I couldn’t agree more!
@failsaferecords
Жыл бұрын
@@Wickedreptiles I've been to Namie where the Fukushima plant is a couple of times. Once in 2015, and once last year. It was a bomb site 4 years after the even with them desperately trying to address the disaster ripping 3 foot of topsoil and putting it into bags and trying to store it somewhere. For the last 10 years they've been collecting contaminated water and have run out of places to store it (not really, they've run out of stamina to address the problem they can't fix so are hoping to dump the water into the ocean where it will be diluted to acceptable levels cos it will be spread around the world). They've abandoned all farming in the area and have converted the once lush farm land into solar farms because there's nothing else they can do there). I agree that nuclear power is a free ride, but it's a lie to pretend we've got it all sorted for safety. It's easy to visit Fukushima and see for yourself that we definitely do not have it sorted, but that doesn't mean we can't solve it and plug into the cheap power. It's interesting that Rogan is willing to brush aside nuclear concerns in the same way people were brushing aside vaccines concerns in the face or solid evidence right in front of their faces.
@Wickedreptiles
Жыл бұрын
@@failsaferecords I couldn’t agree more with you. Nuclear is the way into the future, until we learn to use our own planet to generate power. However until we learn to 100% prevent a disaster from occurring and how to swiftly deal with any potential problems to the local environment if something does happen. Unfortunately it’s very hard to try to swiftly contain something so power especially when you can’t see it in the sense that it clearly visible to the eye to clean up, rather we have to detect
@pstonge123
Жыл бұрын
The new small modular reactor tech is amazing and in commercial development.
@keganatchison3949
Жыл бұрын
My concern is if the grid goes down for more than a week then most nuclear power plants will go into meltdown without backup generators running water over the rods.
@brian2440
Жыл бұрын
If the entire power grid goes down for more than a week you would likely have far greater problems at hand……..
@JewTube001
Жыл бұрын
Why is that evening happening though? What is causing your week long blackout?
@Wanderboy09
Жыл бұрын
On the nuclear topic you guys should talk to Bret Kugelmass of Last Energy building small modular reactors without needing to construct large containment structures. He brings the mindset of a tech founder to the energy space and has a lot of data to share.
@vv7299
Жыл бұрын
Joe treats this guy like he's an energy expert
@brunodanner7777
Жыл бұрын
I assume you are? Please list your studies and qualifications😂
@tomhunter91
Жыл бұрын
@@brunodanner7777 list Oliver Stone's qualifications first kiddo
@vv7299
Жыл бұрын
@@brunodanner7777 I'm not either, it's not like Joe Rogan had to choose between Oliver stone and myself to talk about energy and he picked him
@wtice4632
Жыл бұрын
Did covid teach you nothing about "experts"?
@kazman_6899
Жыл бұрын
He made Talk Radio, Wall Street, Natural Born Killers and U-Turn. Cool films with an inimitable style that may put his name forward in a conversation of top 100 directors of all-time, but not someone I consult on the perils of atypical energy.
@bentencho
Жыл бұрын
IIRC, there was some article or study about how the average person has "The Simpsons" as one of their key sources of information regarding nuclear energy.
@latentsea
Жыл бұрын
Perfect education! I went to school with one of the writers. He knew his stuff and imagine if homer is in charge of safety. Or kamala
@bentencho
Жыл бұрын
@Benson Nope. Just google: nuclear energy, opinion, the Simpsons. Lots of articles about it. Even the creators of the Simpsons admits it.
@maxmeier532
Жыл бұрын
@Benson you sound like you vote out of spite.
@friskydingo9024
Жыл бұрын
As someone who's worked in various types of power plants, refineries, SAGD oil extraction sites and natural gas plants I firmly believe we should be going into nuclear and not running away from it. The safety systems in place now are far more advanced and if protocols are followed it makes leaks or contamination of any kind almost impossible. Wind and solar should be something we use and on residential property to help lower energy costs but scaling it up is not working anywhere its done. The best renewables are Geothermal and Tidal with Hydro being added in some areas but with weather patterns changing even that is less reliable.
@bmoondi1
Жыл бұрын
Surprised Joe didn’t ask about the Santa susana field lab sodium reactor accidents in the San Fernando valley / simi valley area. He used to live in Bell Canyon, and lived probably closer than most ever did. I live within 5 miles from the site. It happened in the 50-60’s and since it was a military lab we didn’t find out about it till the 90’s
@BlackCeII
Жыл бұрын
was that the rocketdyne meltdown?
@andrewferguson8032
Жыл бұрын
I saw a helluva documentary about that
@rfehr613
Жыл бұрын
There were lots of really stupid tests conducted in the early days of nuclear power, before the health effects were understood. They used to test nuclear bombs with fully manned naval ships well into the damage zones. There's videos of it online. Doctors also used to prescribe highly radioactive water and other radioactive elixirs as medication.
@maxmeier532
Жыл бұрын
Bro Jogan is a moron and only believes what his two brain cells allow. In other words, he's always on the wrong side of history.
@drevilatwork
Жыл бұрын
It's ridiculous how , when everybody has a phone in their poket with access to all human knowledge, yet almost no one looks up how clean and safe nuclear energy is compared to all the other forms of energy production
@factmanamerican882
Жыл бұрын
140,000 and 328,000 birds die each year from collisions with wind turbines. It would take about 1,500 Nuclear planets to provide America with 100% clean energy. So the solution is right here, but they need to continue to the Climate Change SCAM for control, power, and to steal 100's of billions in our tax dollars. FACT.
@honestpolitics6312
Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how people completely ignore that one single plant could melt down with an attack or natural disaster and cause a catastrophe that is 1,000,000x worse than 400 years of burning coal and oil. And that safely storing the waste for 30,000 years would cost well more than any savings. Nuclear power is incredibly irresponsible, no matter how clean it runs when it's functioning. We are giving 30,000 years of toxic waste to our descendants to deal with. Completely immoral and irresponsible.
@dundid1t4LL
Жыл бұрын
You would think they would learn to research and not trust scientists funded by governments and/or private investors that profit off the studies showing Co2 as a bad thing. Like how the phrase "carbon footprint" was coined by British Petroleum. Who is the beneficiary of subsidies for wind and solar manufacturing, and at the same time fuel prices are high because of the push to net-zero? The protesters against fossil fuels also have some interesting financial backers too. I wonder why
@JewTube001
Жыл бұрын
@Hank Hill Something bad can happen with anything. In reality more people have died from wind turbine accidents than nuclear meltdowns. Problem is people think dying in a nuclear accident is 1000000x worse, even though it's not rational.
@vs-yy5cx
Жыл бұрын
I hope no one is taking this conversation too seriously, make no conclusions based on it, much is missing from this discussion, and much is wrong too.
@mfournier8033
Жыл бұрын
We could have been using perfectly safe low pressure Thorium molten salt reactors for the last 50 years if the US Navy hadn’t been handed the reactor development program to further the nuclear submarine program.
@bigtimegoblin
Жыл бұрын
That’s it?
@navyryder
Жыл бұрын
It’s public knowledge that all the navy’s aircraft carriers are run by nuclear power, the navy never had any issues.
@wtice4632
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like an oversimplification
@styxrakash4639
Жыл бұрын
@@wtice4632it’s shockingly close, the DOD has been the driving force for our technological advancements for at least a century now.
@MA-nm8ju
Жыл бұрын
The reason vreader reactors was chosen over thorium reactors was THE bomb.
@FOS1993
Жыл бұрын
Why celebrities” opinions were even entertained in the first place is the problem.
@mattcy6591
Жыл бұрын
The concern some people have isn't with nuclear power itself but the inevitability of plants running on slashed budgets and cutting corners on maintenance schedules to reduce cost (which inevitability those savings line someones pockets instead of improving safety)
@Justinbuhagiar
Жыл бұрын
Socialize nuclear energy
@anonymouscoward7559
Жыл бұрын
Examples? You love pushing fear.
@Justinbuhagiar
Жыл бұрын
@@anonymouscoward7559 Capitalism? lol
@mattcy6591
Жыл бұрын
@@anonymouscoward7559 I 100% support nuclear power
@baxter1252
Жыл бұрын
@@Justinbuhagiar That worked super well at Chernobyl.
@theylied1776
Жыл бұрын
The safest nuclear reactors in the world are those French maid pony nuclear reactors.
@woahblackbettybamalam
Жыл бұрын
A French maid pony you say?
@StoutProper
Жыл бұрын
No, the french state is just better at cover ups. Remember rainbow warrior?
@dradis84
Жыл бұрын
LFTR is the game changer... that is why China is going full bore with them
@theylied1776
Жыл бұрын
@@StoutProper cover-ups? If there was ever any problem with one of those nuclear reactors, one of our satellites can see it from space. It's impossible to cover up a radiation leak.
@garyphisher7375
Жыл бұрын
I've read that the French Nuclear reactors are the safest - but apparently they own the patents on what makes them the safest, and often overcharge for others to use them. They will lower the price if you hire French companies to build yours though!
@Bolo2028
Жыл бұрын
This is a very important topic, and it was addressed quite well.
@aphaseelec
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was amazing well balanced and the fact that he is promoting a show purely to show one side really gives everyone a full scope of the situation.
@J.P.Goddet
Жыл бұрын
We need "Nuclear energy" This is very important topic. Bravo Oliver for your "Nuclear Power
@Imetalman2000
Жыл бұрын
He compared flying in a plane vs driving a car. Flying in a plane is safer, until it isn’t. An issue you will have with a car will have leave you stranded on the side of the highway, maintenance issues on a plane have extreme deadly consequences. Nuclear energy is safe, but the potential dangers are real. The issue with Nuclear is being able to have capable technicians and engineers to maintain the plant. Industry wide quality man power has become a serious issue.
@rpe7418
Жыл бұрын
Its not an issue. We don't have an issue with airplane safety. We don't have an issue with nuclear safety. We don't have an issue with nuclear power plant workers. You're making up "issues"
@stars_and_tarot_YT
Жыл бұрын
So true...plus keep in mind whatever it is we do as humans, something bad always happens at some point, nothing we do is 100percent perfect and efficient
@wyattwheeler.
Жыл бұрын
I’m definitely all for nuclear technology but this shit felt like a info-mercial for nuclear energy trying to down play the real concerns comparing it to radiation in bananas 🤣
@velveetaslingshot
Жыл бұрын
My grandfather was a foreman for a nuclear power plant. One day my mom asked him about meltdowns or something and he said "If I told you the truth you would never sleep again."
@dick8997
Жыл бұрын
Nuclear is by far the safest energy generation we have ever created
@charlesratcliffe6839
Жыл бұрын
Oliver seeing how the internet works in real time is cute.
@dudefromtheearth
Жыл бұрын
I gotta watch that new documentary. I have the at most respect for Oliver Stone! I love how he is back again on Rogan.
@FreckledGemini
Жыл бұрын
My very intelligent and thoughtful 22yo son is completely pro nuclear. I am too, given it’s in the right hands. This concept and frame of thinking is a mindset and requires at least the ability to grasp the pros and cons or benefit vs risk, however elementary. But isn’t that always the case? …anything can flourish in the right hands! ✌🏼❤️
@jaredleicht1656
Жыл бұрын
OK build it next to your house and not near mine.
@markusmath3421
Жыл бұрын
@@jaredleicht1656 chicken
@JewTube001
Жыл бұрын
@@jaredleicht1656 why does it need to be built next to someone's house exactly? i dont understand why this propaganda point is used as if all power plants have to be built directly inside of a suburb.
@jaredleicht1656
Жыл бұрын
@@JewTube001 Bro it's a 50 mile blast radius..
@raffaeledivora9517
8 ай бұрын
@@jaredleicht1656 I wish! Instead we have carbon power plants 20 km from here running day and night, the air is so dirty you can see the sickly yellow-red layer dense over us arriving with the plane. So I repeat: I wish they built it next door
@adamlowery7332
Жыл бұрын
The BIGGEST problem is these energy companies are not updating and upgrading. Davis Besse is a perfect example of this, being built in the 70's.
@joshuapotter6176
Жыл бұрын
Thought the shut down the besse plant?
@pablorages1241
Жыл бұрын
Nuclear is the MOST expensive option by far ... when you are trying to make money you take short cuts
@JoeyVol
Жыл бұрын
You cannot expect a private company to take on ANY sort of risk unless the government forces them to do so or pays for said risk. Same goes for literally anything regarding a private enterprise - They have to compete against the WORST actor, by being even worse than their competitor - that's why that hate "government regulation" - because they yearn to be the very worst (which means the most profitable at any cost to the consumers/workers). Which is why regulation like a high minimum wage allows good actors in the economy to pay their workers a living wage without having to worry about being undercut by the very worst of the worst.
@pablorages1241
Жыл бұрын
@@JoeyVol You were right ... until min wage ... artificial minimum wages just cause unemployment as has been shown countless times in history ... Thomas Sowell gives a good explanation ... you just have to look at the migration of companies between states in America or between countries across the world ... the MARKET needs to decide wages ...as soon as governments step in you introduce inefficiencies and waste ... and that makes everyone poorer
@pablorages1241
Жыл бұрын
@@JoeyVol The main problem is liability limited companies (thanks UK) ... if the liability was unlimited companies wouldn't need regulation ... they would be VERY careful
@imwirey2397
Жыл бұрын
I may be remembering wrong from another documentary, but I'm pretty sure they can already use the waste to create more useable energy and early nuclear plants were designed to do that
@vihreelinja4743
Жыл бұрын
no
@deswaterfall3044
Жыл бұрын
Here is where I saw it, kzitem.info/news/bejne/qrCHmZt8i5xhdZg
@iplaygames8090
Жыл бұрын
Yeah the russians can extract still usable uranium from the used fuel.
@brian2440
Жыл бұрын
Well thing is it’s really not “using the waste”. The reality is that current nuclear plants are crazy inefficient. Not at producing electricity but in undergoing fission production. The most cutting edge nuclear plants only operate with about a 7% probability to fission all fuel. As a result this means that the supermajority of material you pull out of a nuclear reactor is the fuel that never underwent a fission reactor (U-238, U-235, Pu-239). Because we are pulling it out of the reactor it is technically classified as waste as it’s still mixed in with all the waste products that were created after nuclear processes were completed. It’s interesting to note that the actual fission product waste and materials transmuted while in the reactor makeup only about 1.5% of material and Plutonium 239 is 1% of this. Plutonium 239 is also a fissile fuel that can be used in FSRs or Fast Spectrum reactors.
@brian2440
Жыл бұрын
@@vihreelinja4743He’s not entirely wrong. Historically in the early days of fast spectrum reactors that didn’t have breeding technology Uranium 239 was transmuted offsite and then brought to these reactors. But it wasn’t ever really waste as it was seperated in contained quantities to minimize the amount of reprocessing and centrifuges that were needed. Also today there are some reactors that use nuclear waste, it’s just not the waste that people typically think about. More specifically it’s old decommissioned nuclear bombs they take the Plutonium 239 out and run it in a fast spectrum reactor. BN-800 in Russia is a good example of this. Historically you also saw more of this after the signing of the Non-Proliferation Treaty in the 1980s as the US and Russia began to reduce weapon stockpiles…..
@michaelfoley9904
Жыл бұрын
Where does the Nuclear waste go ??? As far as i know in the ground and covered over by concrete. Am i wrong ???
@Ren99510
Жыл бұрын
Depends. It can be recycled for more nuclear energy, but yes it can be buried too. The amount of waste is so small though, you should look up some info on that.
@Nozomi621
Жыл бұрын
12:55
@The.world.has.gone.crazy...
Жыл бұрын
The newest nuclear plants can run on waste of the old plants, so technically it can be recyceld. France allready has some of these. But America rather burns cole and spend trillions on forever wars.
@michaelfoley9904
Жыл бұрын
@@Ren99510 yes i must look more into it, also does the waste last for thousands of years ???
@jamesseurat8679
Жыл бұрын
It depends. Some waste has a half life of 30 years. Some has a half life of 24,000.
@bensullivan9478
Жыл бұрын
i love it when guests realise that jamie is there, not only there but doing all the wizardry involved in a jre episode 😅
@MistaMoneyMone
Жыл бұрын
Oliver Stones documentary with Peter Kuznivk about The Untold History of The U.S. was amazing
@colt4505
Жыл бұрын
What is the half-life on the radiation from the waste that goes into the ocean? Just because it's in casques doesn't mean it won't get released somehow through seismic activity or other various events. I like it way more when Joe gives push-back than when he just agrees.
@BBanzaj
Жыл бұрын
Do you have evidence of casks being stored at the bottom of the sea?
@JewTube001
Жыл бұрын
radioactive waste isn't a virus, so if you dump it into the ocean it's like of like pissing into the ocean. won't make much of a difference.
@allendover7480
Жыл бұрын
I just want to say that Oliver Stone says one thing that is not quite accurate worth calling out. He says, "Renewables need back up and that back up is gas." This can be true but is not always true. The Bad Creek project in South Carolina (Duke Energy) uses a mountain of water to store energy. It's an astounding feat of engineering. Sewing fear about any energy cuts us off from possible solutions. We need every solution.
@JoeyVol
Жыл бұрын
While some geographical locations can use renewables that are “on demand”, a larger majority cannot. I agree that we need an all of the above approach to getting off fossil fuel dependence - but I think our main goal should be to make energy extremely cheap - and that means hydroelectric, geothermal and nuclear, of which the costs are mostly up front.
@Gr8flGrrl
Жыл бұрын
Definitely need a diversified portfolio instead of the one-size-fits-all approach that’s being pushed on us.
@JewTube001
Жыл бұрын
But what you're talking about is just a gravity battery that you use when energy demand/prices change. It's not a baseload form of energy generation. Also you need lakes and rivers for that kind of thing, you can't just build it anywhere like a gas generator. Renewables are very situational and intermittent like that. Doesn't mean we shouldn't use them, but we can't only use them or we'll suffer energy shortages.
@allendover7480
Жыл бұрын
@@JewTube001 Oh yeah. Make no mistake. I am pro-nuclear. New forms of nuclear power stations are much safer and create much less waste. I just felt he overstated his case. I like that term-BTW-"gravity battery"-never heard that before.
@Glock20SF10mm
Жыл бұрын
When I got up this morning, agreeing with Oliver Stone on anything was not even on my bingo card.
@schmal911
Жыл бұрын
it's nice to seem him take a break from his day job of parroting kremlin bullshit
@iamnolegend2519
Жыл бұрын
Me too !
@giovannidelgado284
Жыл бұрын
This guy is impressively brilliant imo. Just his speech and ideas 😮
@anthonyplanzo1082
Жыл бұрын
He didn't know what a tic tac was ffs
@xylemrays671
Жыл бұрын
He thinks Putin is an upstanding honest man who straight and wouldn’t lie. He’s not brilliant, he’s a contrarian.
@giovannidelgado284
Жыл бұрын
@@anthonyplanzo1082 tic tacs I remember those from the 90s
@giovannidelgado284
Жыл бұрын
@@xylemrays671 well I never met mr Putin but msm sure blames his country for everything since forever lol
@DrSpawn
Жыл бұрын
Lmao Oliver finding out Google is a thing
@roloughlin212
Жыл бұрын
I mean, i do agree nuclear is generally safe but trying to say no one got hurt around 3 mile island is a bit absurd.
@zackattack635
Жыл бұрын
Literally nobody got harmed by the radiation. It was a boogeyman event to make nuclear less popular since it was a threat to the oil industry. Pearl clutching dorks will disagree, but you would need evidence and there is none.
@WeighedWilson
Жыл бұрын
Leaded gasoline has harmed more people than 3 mile.
@stevenobrien557
Жыл бұрын
Who got hurt?
@roloughlin212
Жыл бұрын
@@stevenobrien557 the cancer rates went through the roof in the areas surrounding and downwind.
@roloughlin212
Жыл бұрын
@@WeighedWilson if 3 mile island happened in every single neighborhood, I'm sure the results would be different. What a strange and completely unrelated analogy.
@Gunnumn
Жыл бұрын
Oliver Stone needs a cooking show.
@stars_and_tarot_YT
Жыл бұрын
You mean cocaine?
@banterwithbawden5444
Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to watch all these documentaries haha
@82394forrest
Жыл бұрын
I remember looking up to Actors/ Actresses. That was back in the 80’s. Growing up through the 90’s i realized they’re just a long arm of politicians. Sheep upon sheep for big paychecks.
@latentsea
Жыл бұрын
Watch “Everthing is a rich mans trick”
@Devin_The_Dude_Reacts
Жыл бұрын
“Legalize Nuclear Bombs” -Oliver Stone
@NortsGhoul
Жыл бұрын
Joe looks beat up and exhausted. Much love joe.
@StoutProper
Жыл бұрын
I think he’s been told stone wasn’t allowed to get into certain topics so was on edge the whole interview
@Ya_Know
Жыл бұрын
Between the new club and having to do podcasts and fitting in his workouts in between he's running himself ragged. Notice how the podcasts have gotten shorter since the new club opened?
@raymondqiu8202
Жыл бұрын
@@Ya_Know what club opened? What club does joe own??
@scuph
Жыл бұрын
@@raymondqiu8202 The Mothership in Austin
@raymondqiu8202
Жыл бұрын
@@scuph ah ok did he say why he opened it up?
@thegreenman2030
Жыл бұрын
I recently listened to a long form interview with Robert Kennedy Jr. I thought for the most part that he is a reasonable man who has some decent policy ideas. Where he really lacked was in energy especially Nuclear. He is still very much against this even though there are so many positive examples like France. Mr. Stone is right when he says so many including himself fall for the headlines and then never really dig deeper into enunciating ourselves about so many subjects.
@kloverdevi8409
Жыл бұрын
Rfk jr just asked why the insurance companies won't insure the nuclear plants... They won't insure something they believe is impossible to insure as it would men paying out FOREVER. Nuclear is like selling out tomorrow for today. It's not the way forward
@thegreenman2030
Жыл бұрын
@@kloverdevi8409 Well we have Nuclear plants now safely and again France is the perfect model for doing Nuclear the right way. We aren’t in the 60’s through 80’s anymore. These things run cleaner and safer than ever before. RFK needs to speak with some of the engineers and techs who build and operate these plants and stop living in the Jane Fonda disaster movies.
@DamonTowles
Жыл бұрын
@@thegreenman2030what do you do with the waste that just chills for hundreds of years?
@Salieri21
Жыл бұрын
I need my friendly neighbourhood reactor asap😂.
@remedythis-dreamworld
Жыл бұрын
Have Jamie look up clean coal instead of saying “wtf are you saying”. Wood is actually worse than coal and it took me 2 seconds to look it up.🤪
@deadgame9980
Жыл бұрын
Tell him,please.👍🏻
@tankerd1847
Жыл бұрын
I think when people talk about "clean coal" their intent is that coal exhaust smoke can be refined to minimize its effects on the environment. That's a matter of fact. It would still be better to get away from it, but if we're going to use it we'd be wise to use it in the cleanest, most efficient way possible. Coal power today is miles removed from the coal power of a hundred years ago.
@infernaldaedra
Жыл бұрын
@@tankerd1847 Unfortunately😂 Most of the ecological damage comes from MINING COAL. Which is why we need to get away from it because it's actually disgusting what it does to the earth. And the first two comments are braindead. Wood you have to cut down trees which is not sustainable as some trees can take 100s of years to mature. This is why wind, solar,, hydro, and nuclear are actually "clean" energy because you just have to collect it passively. The very term "Clean Coal" implies that it actually exists 💀🦅🇺🇸🇺🇲
@infernaldaedra
Жыл бұрын
@@deadgame9980 If clean coal were real I'm pretty sure Appalachian and adjacent states wouldn't be the poorest in America. 🤔
@deadgame9980
Жыл бұрын
@@infernaldaedra coal miners make good money,the bastards in D.C. shut the mines.There’s anthracite coal,it’s considered clean,plus they’ve put “scrubbers” on every coal plant.That’s a big catalytic converter for a coal plant.
@TrentMcNary420
Жыл бұрын
I feel like I have nuclear ☢️ power when I take a dump
@xylsky1300
Жыл бұрын
After taco bell
@mrShinglez
Жыл бұрын
Probably one of the most interesting shows to watch on here
@wednesdar452
Жыл бұрын
Amen to this. It is our only hope. The solar, wind, tear down the dams boondoggle is a fail.
@tommylatham9868
Жыл бұрын
The most impressive thing about this podcast is that a full hour went by before the word "nukuler" was uttered.
@SnoopyDoofie
Жыл бұрын
Like how Stone deliberately overlooks the fact that Pripyat will remain uninhabited for 20,000 years.
@stars_and_tarot_YT
Жыл бұрын
It s mad
@rickyal9810
Жыл бұрын
But...the Russians said!
@JewTube001
Жыл бұрын
uninhabited ? Pripyat is literally a tourist hotspot...
@SnoopyDoofie
Жыл бұрын
@@JewTube001 You clearly don't know the difference between living in a place and visiting it.
@ThiCityProductions
Жыл бұрын
He said.. “ this fossil fuel is destroying the universe “. He’s a little weird. Also Chernobyl was very real 😢
@infernaldaedra
Жыл бұрын
Oh were you at Chernobyl
@MadJeff504
Жыл бұрын
@@infernaldaedra you should go to Chernobyl now and report back.
@infernaldaedra
Жыл бұрын
@@MadJeff504 Yeah all the evidence is there it's not a big deal
@klhuffman2285
Жыл бұрын
I studied radiation safety in college. And honestly electricity scares me more than radiation lol
@bhatkat
Жыл бұрын
Yes, and it has killed far more people than all the nuclear energy in history. Except of course the natural type from the sun that no one seems to worry about as it gives us thousands more skin cancer cases every year. Same thing with the waste compared to radon seeping directly into our homes.
@r0llinst0ned
Жыл бұрын
Hisashi Ouchi???
@jimrobcoyle
Жыл бұрын
My favourite radiation source is my orange glazed coffee cup.
@justinsidervag8008
Жыл бұрын
He can't understand why no one can gets it . Yet , he's amazed at how quickly the internet works.
@apach47
Жыл бұрын
For those who watched the whole episode - I like how every conversations with Joe at some point ends up with aliens and chimpanzees .
@grizstockman8002
Жыл бұрын
You get dosed with cosmic radiation every time you fly in an airplane....
@allysagilbreath
Жыл бұрын
What happened in Chernobyl was not caused by nuclear power, it was caused by communism! That was the entire point of the series. Don’t play that down!
@mrman-to3iq
Жыл бұрын
i believe the west had a part to play in this, sabotage.
@fred6319
Жыл бұрын
did all the accidents in the west happen because of communism?i spot the victim of anti communist brainwashing by capitalist
@Ljrobison
Жыл бұрын
That's called negligence and cutting corners to save money. It has nothing to do with communism. While I don't agree with communism.. that's just a dumb take.
@b_uppy
Жыл бұрын
Conversely all the snafus within the US shows nuclear is a long term vulnerability. I'd rather use natural gas and change farming and ranching so we sequester carbon. • Use mob grazing to control weeds, pests, crop residues (plant materials left after harvest, and culls), and diseases. *Using synthetic chemical fertilizers the harms healthy soil biomes.* Latest soil science is finding synthetic chemical inputs prevents natural synthesis of soil fertility, as well as harms natural pest and weed control. • Go to polycultures: fields are interplanted with biome-appropriate trees, shrubs, vines in rows, alternating with perennials for ease of harvest, and pasturing (aka alleycropping). Do it in place of monocultures of (especially) grain fields, and areas in the Midwest and West that are having water problems, as this needs less irrigation than annual food crops. Polycropping, avoiding overgrazing offers better soil protection, more reliable income, more overall food produced, healthier foods produced, better aquifer recharge, etc. We do need to figure out a way to replace bad fracking with better natural gas extraction methods. I am hoping Trump makes Prez, because Trump wants energy resiliency. I hope RFK is his VP because RFK does his research and would promote better, safer ways to do things. To me, nuclear is the energy source of last resort.
@Andy-im3kj
Жыл бұрын
Nuclear energy is so incredibly safe and underrated and very powerful. The nuclear reactor on board naval submarines can easily power so many homes.
@1958syd
Жыл бұрын
A thorium reactor is a completely safe nuclear energy option. Sadly nobody is discussing this. China has built a thorium reactor. We should do the same. There is a huge amount of thorium salt in the state that I live in.
@FireMcgwire
Жыл бұрын
It kinda sounds like joe is about to cry the entire time..
@StoutProper
Жыл бұрын
He’s been told to make sure stone doesn’t get into non authorised narratives
@amc78
Жыл бұрын
@@StoutProper huh? Like what
@daerth4423
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting man. I gained a lot of respect for him after Rogan's interview.
@daerth4423
Жыл бұрын
@@thelucianiancu Not at all.
@Selfless_american
Жыл бұрын
First thing I've heard Joe say that he sounded ignorant. "Wtf is clean coal" Wish Jamie would have pulled that up. It is very possible to clean coal so that when it burns it is basically water vapor but it's an expensive process that's why you don't see it.
@Coolness18304
Жыл бұрын
As an avid fisherman, I can assure you that fishing near reactors have a waaaaay higher risk of catching a fish with tumors all over its body
@redomega24
Жыл бұрын
As opposed to the other toxic chemicals being dumped in there? I'll take my chances with a gen 4/5 reactor
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