When sunny and omori "hug" each other and you get the good ending omori will drop the knife after a few seconds. But if you get the bad ending sunny will drop the violin immediately. It shows that it is easier for sunny to give up and harder to forgive himself.
@Makewell_catto
2 жыл бұрын
yo thats such a cool little detail you picked up on
@Makewell_catto
2 жыл бұрын
@EL AUTENTICO i demand you pay for my therapy after making me read that
@justadudethisone3383
2 жыл бұрын
@EL AUTENTICO I is in pain
@shinoataya
2 жыл бұрын
@EL AUTENTICO oh no. oh no. I need a source I will not be able to let this go
@AColorfulMess
2 жыл бұрын
@EL AUTENTICO how ‘bout just the link instead? No way this is true 😵
@theappler9516
2 жыл бұрын
also, since sunny's name is sunny, the saying that "the sun shined brighter when she was here" rings even more true
@siorganism
2 жыл бұрын
Never noticed that
@lomfer.lomfington.lomfiator
2 жыл бұрын
Or you could say, Sunny shined brighter.
@hackidreemurr
2 жыл бұрын
Woaa i didn't even notice
@AnonymousLad
2 жыл бұрын
"Sunny was more happy when Mari was still here."
@cadenyb4334
2 жыл бұрын
holy shit this never even occured to me actually blew my mind
@asik1888
2 жыл бұрын
"You're useless... less than useless. You're sick." This line hit hard. Sunny acknowledging that his headspace is just his wild useless imagination and a way to ignore his friends.
@notmitsukiyolol
2 жыл бұрын
Nothing is useless, just sometimes overbearing. His imagination could help him with getting a living through writing
@supernintendo182
2 жыл бұрын
@@notmitsukiyolol I think OP means useless in the way that Headspace does nothing but hide the truth from Sunny. There are healthy ways to use your imagination but pretending that a problem doesn't exist isn't one of them.
@kingenderdragona4791
2 жыл бұрын
True, but the line that hit the hardest was by far, “You’re nothing but a liar. And when they find out the truth… they’ll hate you as much as you hate yourself.”
@elementaljasmine2526
2 жыл бұрын
Somehow,it hits me in the heart even though i'm not Sunny :' )
@notmitsukiyolol
2 жыл бұрын
@@kingenderdragona4791 Probably because you yourself have fears of failing your friends (if you have any) and them leaving you in the dark like Omori says they will
@stephaniethebatter7975
2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that OMORI is the name etched onto MARI's piano. Furthermore, OMORI's black singlet, striped white shorts and long black socks/boots further add to his connection with the piano. In terms of game design, however, the piano is most likely named after OMORI, so it's likely SUNNY had based OMORI's name and appearance on his sister's piano story-wise. Also, SUNNY's name makes a hell of a lot of sense when MARI's epitapth reads "The sun shined brighter when she was here". The epitapth refers to SUNNY, who was doing so much better while MARI was still alive, even if he still wasn't expressive or talkative.
@logistic5721
2 жыл бұрын
The last part is pretty insane to think about. But i mean. Its true.
@ivez5067
2 жыл бұрын
sunny knew she loved her piano, and i guess he wanted to be something that she loved
@Libbi616
Жыл бұрын
I’m fairly sure that omori is a brand of piano in the game, that’s why the piano in the church has that on it aswelll.
@911jokester
9 ай бұрын
Omori probably sells pianos to the HS counterparts of the hooligans when no one is looking
@digsv1245
2 жыл бұрын
It may sound weird, but when exploring the hospital hallway, I noticed that Sunny and Basil’s hospital rooms have the same spots as their neighborhood homes in Faraway Town.
@zapper333
2 жыл бұрын
Holy
@mr.incognitoyt2235
2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, never noticed
@Mari-eo3yi
2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.incognitoyt2235 Your pfp
@sonetagu1337
2 жыл бұрын
Cool, Nice But why did they (Sunny and Basil) choosed that though? It was weirdly specific that they remember (and used) their... "origin" and their "path". ....oooooooohhhhhhhhh.......
@sonetagu1337
2 жыл бұрын
Also that means the hospital is big holy shit they must be baking af if they're in US
@ebrucan7161
2 жыл бұрын
Omori is one of those games, that can convey a ridiculously big amount of story telling and emotions in a very short experience. It's just amazing how Omocat fit this much feeling, foreshadowing, emotion, and story in a game like Omori.
@h0lodm0966
2 жыл бұрын
it’s 20 hours long, so not short haha definitely emotional and story filled, though!
@dustpanman2998
2 жыл бұрын
Wait if Omori was a short experience, how absurdly long would a long experience be?
@thefffc194
2 жыл бұрын
@@dustpanman2998 Ah my friend, allow me to tell you about an JRPG, you may have heard of it. Persona 5 takes about 100 hours to complete
@ebrucan7161
2 жыл бұрын
@@h0lodm0966 I meant alot shorter than the story.
@keenankersh7944
2 жыл бұрын
@@thefffc194 And then there's the final fantasies, dragon quests, tales series, lots of independent ones, SMT games (including p5), and those are just off the top of my head.
@oliviu-dorianconstantinesc288
2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it nice how Aubrey mirrors Sunny's accidental killing of Mari by shoving Basil into the water in a moment of rage?
@sejcai
Жыл бұрын
well, i wouldn’t use the word *nice* lmao
@mikalapron
Жыл бұрын
@@sejcai wdym, it was so sweet to remind him of his trauma💕💞/j
@Rayxy666
Жыл бұрын
@@mikalapron THESE DAMN OMORI FANS ALWAYS MAKING ME CRY
@stephaniejanong4146
2 жыл бұрын
Another interesting thing about Sunny/Omori is that while he doesn't ever really talk in headspace or the real world, the game makes up for it by making him express through internal dialogues in real world interactions. I find it charming how snarky the descriptions are and how Sunny canonically internally rates every bed he comes across like some sort of bed connoisseur. The item descriptions in hs also reveal a lot about Sunny in little ways, similar the world building. A good example of this is the toy item PRESENT, that makes a friend or foe ANGRY, which has the description "It's not what you wanted…"
@1800basil
2 жыл бұрын
Also, to add to that, in HS the foe facts journal shows that there's a bit of sarcasm to Sunny, hinting a lil bit of personality heh
@matriajk5648
2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile Lol Sword description: XD
@somethingAccurate
Жыл бұрын
@@1800basil the copypasta
@1800basil
Жыл бұрын
@@somethingAccurate hm?
@luminacake588
Жыл бұрын
So to summarise, Sunny is just ✨done✨
@lonerimortal8
2 жыл бұрын
24:17 actually, there is a detail in the game implying that Basil's grandma died and this whas the final straw for hin. not only in the last day, in the graveyard, there is a old man that is suposedly the gravedigger who tell you that tonight someone is going to die and the spirits are making a welcome party, and he has this dialog no matter what ending you get after, so he whas likely not talking about eiter Basil or Sunny. another detail that implyes this is when you convince Aubrey to get out of her house, when you go to the cressroads you can see a old lady seemingly lost, but after some seconds she just vanishes ... she is Basil's grandma blw. whe can't tell for sure if sunny can see spirits, or is just aware that she whas eventually going to pass and connected the dots when Polly said she whas sent to the hospital in a emergency ... or even if only the player can see her, since Sunny can't interact with her unlike his other dreamworld "hallucinations" that only disaper when you interact with then, but it's still firmly implyed that she died and this makes Basil Snap out of guilt and give up. that's my toughts about this event.
@shipperina2213
2 жыл бұрын
But in the first day Basil did hinted to Sunny that he was going to commit suicide by "it's nice you are still around... Even if it is for a little while", he says this however hhe have no idea that Sunny is moving, which makes this line kind of onimous, he also gives Sunny his photo album which is common with suicidal people, they give away stuff to friends and family since they no longer need it.
@lonerimortal8
2 жыл бұрын
@@shipperina2213 makes sence. I still think his grandma died during the game though.
@shipperina2213
2 жыл бұрын
@@lonerimortal8 never said she didn't, since it was kind of obvious she did, I was just talking about her death was not necessarily his final straw since he was already going to do it. Ngl she just seems to be a distraction to buy Sunny time while giving Basil more reasons to kill himself.
@lonerimortal8
2 жыл бұрын
@@shipperina2213 Agreed
@odinjaynes5003
2 жыл бұрын
the guy above really needs to rethink his life decisions
@joeyshadeslayer9792
2 жыл бұрын
I always thought that the background in Omori’s final phase was just trying to tell Sunny what would happen if he kept talking to his friends, he would get them all killed, just like Mari.
@thesquishedelf1301
2 жыл бұрын
4:53 A fun little parallel to this I notice every playthrough is how, when jumping into the Lost Library after beating Sweetheart, Kel is physically the closest to Omori when the friends drift off. Hero goes first, already keeping at a distance; Aubrey starts closer but Kel doesn't start to drift away until after Aubrey's passed him. It's a cute little nod to the real world relationships.
@4DD3R
2 жыл бұрын
I love that Basil went missing in headspace instead of Mari. I think it shows that Sunny was pushing back the memories of her because he was scared of thinking about her. The game is so complex and I feel like omocat really put a lot of effort into the story besides just the gameplay.
@shipperina2213
2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Mari is technically not here as well since she is just randomly appearing and disappearing
@4DD3R
2 жыл бұрын
@@shipperina2213 I guess so, but I feel like Basil was the main focus
@shipperina2213
2 жыл бұрын
@@4DD3R noot saying he wasn't, cause he definitely was, but Mari also dissappears as well. She isn't able to stay for too long or else Sunny will remember. Basil ends up becoming similar to Mari when saved in the hikikomori route where he isn't missing per say, but he disappears and reappears randomly on the pinic basket
@mattimeikalainen6963
2 жыл бұрын
Omori removes basil. As stated by the strangers in black space "the flower boy always ends up finding the truth". Which causes omori to whisk him away to blackspace in order to protect sunny from the past.
@mattimeikalainen6963
2 жыл бұрын
@@shipperina2213 mari is kept back on purpose. Its hinted at by some deeper characters that she used to be part of the adventures but partly due to her bad knee and partly due to headspaces rpg like structure mari kept getting into trouble. Therefore omori just keeps her safe on her picnic blanket. Never going into any real danger.
@dot5596
2 жыл бұрын
I think My least favorite ending is the modified Hikkiomori one (not sure what its actual name is) where you hang out with kel day one and not for the rest of the game. It's like giving your friends a hope you'll be coming out, but taking eventually just choosing to forget.
@gdbatle9967
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I did this route on my second playthrough of the game and I gotta say that it’s pretty interesting, because some of the Hikikomori route content is still accessible but some is inaccessible unlike in the normal Hikikomori route. For example I don’t know if this is just me or not, but when you go to the lost library again to battle the fears, after placing the sheet music down there’s only 1 beam of light to step into which leads to the Acrophobia fight but the other fears aren’t there, which also means you can’t access black space 2, but everything else from the normal Hikikomori route is as usual.
@mafiabosslvl1007
2 жыл бұрын
WAIT YOU CAN DO THAT?
@racoonwhocannotbekilled9999
Жыл бұрын
@@gdbatle9967 It's probably just you. Nothing on the wiki states that that's the case at all. But there are other noticeable differences, like what I'm mentioning in another comment.
@racoonwhocannotbekilled9999
Жыл бұрын
@@mafiabosslvl1007 Yeah, it's called the Mixed Route, some other changes include *A:* Being able to access the "Mari is home" event in Black Space 2 without having to use the secret entrance from Black Space 1, and *B and more importantly:* Using Basil's Photo Album after being completely taken over by Omori shows all of the photos scribbled out. This implies that Sunny was under Omori's control when he scribbled out Basil's photos and accidentally got Aubrey angry.
@ConvenientlyShapedUsername
2 жыл бұрын
2:33 Also, when inspecting Mari's grave in faraway town, it says "The _sun_ shined brighter when she was here.". I feel like that might be intentional. It makes sense, as it's both a general believable gravestone quote, but it could also imply that Sunny, the 'sun', "shined brigther"(aka was happier and healthier) when she was alive. Which is true. He did.
@01fireboy28
2 жыл бұрын
I think the person saying “no no, stop it” was Mari stopping sunny from walking away
@siorganism
2 жыл бұрын
That makes more sense, when you fall in once I don think saying that make sense tbh
@nhay245
2 жыл бұрын
Or basil which is in disbelief
@dbz2894
2 жыл бұрын
I actually had the opposite thought process when I first played through Omori. Instead of saying "I" when playing as Sunny or Omori I saw them as the character and me as a spectator, disconnecting myself from the two. I saw this as Sunny's story not mine, since the very beginning. I remember thinking that it was okay and that Sunny just needed to breathe during the fight with the stair fear monster. Also, I always found the Omori boss music to be a perfect representation of anxiety in a song, which is fitting since the track's name is Omori.
@thesquishedelf1301
2 жыл бұрын
I had largely the same process until I reached Lost Library. It's a really sneaky touch they did where you have to fill in the blanks in the memories, and Sunny is referred to as "I". Even if you have a healthy disconnect from the character, this is a really interesting trick they used to try to encourage the player to think of their actions in-game with "I" rather than "them".
@mysweetpiano8000
2 жыл бұрын
Same, I felt so bad for him
@technocarp
Жыл бұрын
6:24 holy shit i'm so stupid for the longest time i thought that basil's decapitated body was a chicken, i remember laughing at how omori was suddenly having a boat ride with a chicken while the music got really quiet for no reason lmaoooo
@yagmurcelik8989
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with saying "I" and "You" part(and I feel called out :D) . Well it was easier for me to say "me" rather than "Sunny" but my goal in game was making "Sunny" feel better again. Saying"I"was just a lot convenient. After playing Undertale and Deltarune I always detach myself from characters.
@thesquishedelf1301
2 жыл бұрын
OMOCAT did a sneaky trick to disarm that detachment in the Lost Library. When you have to fill in the gaps in Sunny's memories to understand the books, despite being written in 3rd person, Sunny is only referred to as "I" (or rather, one square.) The fact it's also a simple puzzle disarms the player into blurring that line between them and Sunny. I didn't notice until later that this is when I started thinking of the avatar with "I" rather than "it"/"he".
@notonlyalex9766
2 жыл бұрын
i thought one of the reasons for omori's name was also that it's similar to omocat but damn i did not expect you to mention how omori means kill in Romanian as a Romanian i didn't think much of it at first but after finishing the game i thought to myself "oh shit- and omori means kill in my language lmao what a coincidence" would be really cool if it wasnt just a coincidence tho so yeah
@GengUpinIpin
2 жыл бұрын
Omori is also the brand name for Mari's piano... I guess it means.....both perfectionism and guilt? So "the perfect escapism" lmao maybe
@partyingpijon6673
2 жыл бұрын
im also romanian, and when my friend told me about the game i was like ce spui mamaie
@notonlyalex9766
2 жыл бұрын
@@partyingpijon6673 numele basically dă spoiler la mai tot jocu lmao
@notonlyalex9766
2 жыл бұрын
@EL AUTENTICO ok 😔
@odinjaynes5003
2 жыл бұрын
@EL AUTENTICO this man has the iq and weight of nikocado avocado for thinking this butter-beaned buffoon can insult people for things they can't choose
@lazernor
2 жыл бұрын
Hikikomori seems to literally be "Drawn to the large Grove" when split and put through google translate. Someone who prefers to spend their time lost in the woods all alone...
@Nworld57
Жыл бұрын
Interesting idea about Basil thinking of himself as a sunflower following the sun. Just wanted to add, his sprite often turns towards Sunny if you walk around a room with him in it, which is notable, because nobody else has this behavior in the game as far as I could find.
@irtehmrepic
2 жыл бұрын
Minor note: Roboheart is actually available to fight in normal route, even before the slime girls. Hence why her stats are below them.
@WhoStoleKirya73
2 жыл бұрын
What (how)
@irtehmrepic
2 жыл бұрын
@@WhoStoleKirya73 once you've gotten the slimy keycard head through the teleporter rooms with all the robo worms and in the final room you'll see Roboheart
@Dhalin
2 жыл бұрын
@18:51 The distorted yelling and stuff doesn't start at the 5th phase. It starts the first time Sunny becomes Afraid by Omori's Hellmari attack. Don't believe me? Get to the 5th phase and just sit there while inputting commands and then note how it starts immediately when Omori nails Sunny with that attack.
@Dhalin
2 жыл бұрын
Also, the Hikikomori Route can be entered on Two Days Left if you ignore Kel the 2nd time, which is even more terrible: Sunny finds out that Mari's dead in 3DL, and decides "man, this crap is too depressing, I'm just gonna stay inside and pretend the previous day never happened".
@WhoStoleKirya73
2 жыл бұрын
@@Dhalin at that point you also get the photo album, which, if switched to Hikikomori route, later appears to be scribbled out
@Dhalin
2 жыл бұрын
@@WhoStoleKirya73 Oh, I never saw that. Huh. So Sunny decides to do it Again lol.
@ethanwmonster9075
2 жыл бұрын
Ignoring the sob story for a second can we take a moment to appreciate how good the graphics for this game are.
@Al3xthefrog
Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah!
@FirstnameLastname-sb3hj
Жыл бұрын
lmao
@maxnolife_
Жыл бұрын
7:15 I thind this very interesting because the new console update shows that Mari isn’t save outside of her picnic blanket in headspace where Omori wanters her to be. She turns out to be the last enemy when Omori and Basil fight in Boss Rush. The scene of Omori/Sunny, and Basil fighting Mari brings the familiarity and cuts to both younger Sunny and Basil afraid of mari’s hanging corpse. Which is why Omori doesn’t want Mari leave her picnic area
@SerialIntrovert
Жыл бұрын
Technically, the Mari fought in the Boss Rush is just a simulation of her. But yes, it's definitely interesting that the fight even took place at all, given how much of a trauma trigger it was for Sunny/Omori to have to relive hurting his sister.
@salvatoredigregorio9618
2 жыл бұрын
That point about how people tend to detach themselves from Sunny is interesting. I think I had something similar during the scene where Omori stabs Basil, but the scene after did the complete opposite. Seeing Sunny awake right after that, still on the ground, just staring upward, as though the pain that jolted him awake was nothing compared to the scene in his mind... it made me connect to Sunny so much more than before, and I think the closest I got to disasosiating from Sunny after that was during the Toy Box sequence, when he actively describes not just what you interact with, but but also topics surrounding them, like where the cactus came from, or how he feels about baths and such, and even then...
@OctoGhost
2 жыл бұрын
At the last segment of the omori battle (17:26) when i was playing, I thought that omoris eyebrows are tilted to the side a bit (to make a sad expression). Im not sure if its just the blotchiness of the colouring but i thought it was interesting
@gylotip8393
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I noticed it too. In the first phrases, he looks at Sunny with resentment, but on the last phrase, he looks at him with some sort of sympathy.
@shipperina2213
2 жыл бұрын
To be fair omori is just doing what Sunny truely wants deep down, since omori doesn't have any free will. He himself may not want Sunny to truely die, he just wants to protect him. Sunny deep down wants to die, so omori tells him his negative thoughts. In the end Omori is still Sunny, Sunny hopes is his hopes, Sunny's dreams is his dreams, Sunny's wishes is his wishes. Sunny is in a conflict of wanting to die vs. Wanting to live, so he does what Sunny wants, but Sunny is fighting against his wants with his need of telling the truth and learning to accept.
@nicolrb2210
2 жыл бұрын
@@gylotip8393 omori is still part of sunny, so everything he says is as directed at himself as it is to sunny
@davisdf3064
2 жыл бұрын
@@gylotip8393 Kinda makes me think the he too hates that fight
@talis2513
2 жыл бұрын
I'll never unsee this
@christopherIF
2 жыл бұрын
This video still managed to put me to tears. What a beautiful game, i'm waiting a possible DLC
@kuronblue
2 жыл бұрын
@EL AUTENTICO but the thing is he's friends forgiving him doesnt matter him forgiving himself is the thing that matters he fully aknoledged the consiquences and overcame he's fears , he hid the truth from all of his friends in fear of him judging them buuuuut after the true ending or good ending he overcomes this fears and tells them anyways because no matter the outcome he has overcome his grief (but not fully) he also learned to aknoledge he's good moments with mari and im sure he knows that mari woudnt want him to feel all this grief also after the good ending and true ending you see in omori's point of view driving to his own house meaning he didnt kill himself
@kuronblue
2 жыл бұрын
@EL AUTENTICO seropiusl;y* liern how 2 spiell and than you kan talc two me
@robotx5260
2 жыл бұрын
@@kuronblue dont worry bout this guy, he's a troll
@robotx5260
2 жыл бұрын
*Switch update new content stares in the distance*
@plugshirt1762
2 жыл бұрын
From what I’ve heard a dlc probably isn’t likely but if there is one I’d bet money it’s focused on basil
@gravitymonkey9300
2 жыл бұрын
Omori's name is also rumored to come from the locution "Memento Mori", aka remember death. I wonder why that parallel has been made x)
@NamePending878
2 жыл бұрын
These analysis videos are probably my favourite part of this channel
@goopswag
2 жыл бұрын
saem
@Someone_1504
2 жыл бұрын
saem
@rel10
2 жыл бұрын
Saem
@_aneggonacreek4925
2 жыл бұрын
saem
@shipperina2213
2 жыл бұрын
23:46 I have to disagree with you, Basil's something doesn't disappear, it just goes back into his head. It is not truely gone, because unlike Sunny, Basil wasn't able to confront the truth properly. He is still stuck onto his delusional belief that Something killed Mari and is holding onto his guilt of framing it into a suicide. At that moment however all of this dissappears because everything in that moment felt nice and calm.
@rg-wormwood
2 жыл бұрын
i interpret it as his something disappearing because it's usually seen as surrounding him and "eating him alive" but in the ending basil was the one to take it in him
@shipperina2213
2 жыл бұрын
@@rg-wormwood so what you are saying is Basil ate his something
@rg-wormwood
2 жыл бұрын
@@shipperina2213 more like "deafeating" it? since it represents sunny pushing mari, and he seems to have forgiven sunny
@shipperina2213
2 жыл бұрын
@@rg-wormwood I wouldn't say he forgave Sunny, since he had forgiven Sunny a long time ago. I think accepting that it was Sunny is more accurate.
@theraylee4936
2 жыл бұрын
Is this called overanalyzing?
@IAMMechakirby1
Жыл бұрын
I like to think that the fall in the bad ending is as long as it is because I've heard suicide survivors specify how long the fall felt compared to how long it actually was.
@Nothing-dk8cn
2 жыл бұрын
We have Aubrey and Sunny now we just need Kel, Hero, Basil and Mari for the next videos :D
@Nothing-dk8cn
2 жыл бұрын
@EL AUTENTICO but I like they
@Nothing-dk8cn
2 жыл бұрын
@@inactiveuser-1856 I know, but starting to fight won't get better So I will be peaceful
@littlemissviolet4984
2 жыл бұрын
@@Nothing-dk8cn I’m really excited to see the video about Mari 😁
@gabl8a89
7 ай бұрын
I would be excited to see a video about Basil, as im sure it will be a controversial one. He is that one good friend with tons of problems to deal with and you dont even know if he is still likable or not.
@Zxgnjason
2 жыл бұрын
7:40 You really hit the nail on the coffin in concerns to our connection as a player with Sunny. It's actually a really profound topic in terms of character relatability, this sudden change between the self-identifying "Me" and "I" when playing a character, to the accusatory "You" when they do something horrible. I remember being very emotional and elated when I started watching good ending playthroughs of OMORI. Not only because these let's players made the decision to forgive the protagonist despite their actions, but because these let's players ended up identifying with many of the mental health issues that this game represents. So much to the point where some started crying during either the Final Duet, or during OMORI's self-harming thoughts during Sunny's Final Battle with him ("They'll hate you as much as you hate yourself." "You let them believe in a lie to protect yourself."). They ended up not only identifying with, but in turn supporting Sunny to the very end, as if they stood beside him while he said the first confessionary words, or more specifically, as he took the first steps towards healing after three years. It gave me hope to see people support Sunny, because Sunny and Omori and the whole friend group together is, in essence, an overwhelmingly poignant representation of mental trauma, and seeing people wanting to "reach out and hug these mentally unstable kids," to me, is like a call to action to save people who are on the brink of suicide. Perhaps this is why people are so defensive towards this game. And admittedly, I've realized that I too, am defensive about the game. Since, not so soon after watching the overwhelming positive support towards Sunny's incident around launch, I became stricken with horror, when one streamer I soon watched immediately say: "How do I kill myself?!," after seeing Sunny's Truth scene. It's not a one-to-one version of the accusatory "you..." but considering their choice of words to the overall game's message at hand... is just, wow... Suffice to say that I was deeply stricken by this statement, because they not only inherently validated suicide, but also inherently validated others TO TELL OTHERS to commit suicide. Say what you want about observer's bias and getting too attached to fictional characters - this is really raw stuff, man - because this brings to mind one way people reach or push other people to that tipping point -all the self-harming thoughts bottled up inside, EXPLODING because some outside party popped, or slowly scraped it with a long, sharp needle. This game... Is nothing short of a masterpiece of storytelling.
@Whoopsie_woggzy
2 жыл бұрын
worth the read ,ty.
@alastor9141
2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree
@floofdoodle4349
2 жыл бұрын
Also in the topic of players wanting to detach themselves from Sunny for thier action n the thought process of forgiving sunny is another indirect way of presenting the process of self forgiveness n self-loathing That if we don't forgive Sunny we discontinue the fight with omori (The fight between Sunny n omori reflecting the conflict between self n the process of negative self talk n how near the end where omori tells sunny every reason why he deserves to end "it" n dosen't deserve his friends or Mari or discoursing him to face his friends) is both directly n indirectly represents Both sunny n the player deciding to "end the game" and not letting themselves embrace happiness n precious memories since players not forgiving Sunny is indirectly representing Sunny not forgiving himself hence discounting n agreeing with omori n letting omori take over But if we continue we are forgiving Sunny representing him forgiving himself n letting him live n face his friends n giving him the chance of getting rid of something n letting himself be happy which omori was trying to deprive him as protection from rejection as well as disgust towards Sunny for what he had done
@odinjaynes5003
2 жыл бұрын
@EL AUTENTICO thats why no one identifies with you.
@rtheawesomegm
2 жыл бұрын
9:05 your analysis did make sense, but it was flawed. most players said “you” because it was out of their control. if there was an option to eat the Nome or not, and the PLAYER chose to eat them, then they would most likely say “why did I eat the Nome”. but since the PLAYER was planning to eat the sausage, and the CHARACTER didn’t, that was the character’s fault, hence “why did YOU eat the Nome”.
@Swagpion
2 жыл бұрын
True. If it wasn't what was wanted then they say you, because the player didn't want that.
@missdemeanor608
Жыл бұрын
True
@funkunko
Жыл бұрын
yeah ig, but it still is a very good observation
@Dhalin
2 жыл бұрын
@2:30ish, Sunny's name: There's also a very neat pun: "The Sun(ny) shined brighter while she was here."
@ChadHellgado
2 жыл бұрын
That probably wouldn’t make any sense for people that chose their own name
@Dhalin
2 жыл бұрын
@@ChadHellgado No, but Sunny _is_ the default canon name. It's a subtle little pun that only works if you choose to play with the canon name.
@darksoulsismycity
2 жыл бұрын
I dunno why, but i always thought that the door at the top of the hospital corrodor was the hospital's exit, as if they were always at the ground floor. The more i know i guess.
@antianime-pfp3291
2 жыл бұрын
Sunny looks surprised in 30:37 but Omori is completely emotionless even though everyone else is happy, probably because this is just his imagination and everyuthing is expected after all,
@jakubsomka3945
2 жыл бұрын
So,watched all video,so here i am back,again. As a some type of dreamer, omori kindaf chenged my life. Even my life is somehow (not totally,of course) similar to sunny's. I had a group,becouse of i didn't wanted to do what they said, i was kicked out of group,that was as a kid. Next we have school,maybe a new point in my life? No. Beocuse oof my actions in 1-3 grade i have no friends,even today at 8 grade of elementary school. hopefully i am going to end this section of my life by leaving this school to another one. But,around a year ago,something chenged. [March 2020] Nothing to think about...No films,no friends,no new games to play... sudenlly one night,i made a dream,i was interasted in it,wanted to recreate it again,after few days finally i made it. My own dream,with my own choises, as a writer of this world,i could've do everthing,and some time after, some youtuber made a video about the 5 year old game,called Undertale. there,i meet AU's, and unlimited choices,history and timeline to chenge. after some time,beocuse of Pandemic,i was heaving more free time,beocouse of new type of learning,from home. NO need to met with people that hate me NO need to learn for tests,as you can check on-line everthing And best of all,as we were't taking any Video meeting,i had enough time to do, what i wanted. A half year later, a had to go back,again to school,that destroyed my life, to meet with the same people against my will, i had not enough time to do anything,becouse "We have to make up the material from last year", so test,after test more grades, more people tat dont like me... But still i had My world, *Mine beloved world*. "My, perfect world" "The place where i am a God [Writer]" "This world is better that the real one" yep,it sound familiar. Merg made another video, about another small, not so popular indie game, and here it is, OMORI. This game geved me more inspiration, and also, some more healhier look at the world that surrounds me, that you can't escape, but its ok. Just be Yourself,and try, to improve your life (this real one),and maybe it will chenge. So,Omori gave me more covidence,and i am waiting for High-school,maybe there i will find friends. more inspiration=More dreams that stand out=More happines in life Today,still dreamer,still guy that is strange but more (i think) likeable,and happier. Thank you for reading. waiting for more videos about OMORI,Deltarune and other things for inspirations
Personally i think omori is one of those underrated game that came out last year. Only a handful of well known KZitemrs decided to pick it up and play it till the end. Either way, nice video on this this game has always been a metaphorical way of conveying guilt and loss.
@ChadHellgado
2 жыл бұрын
Omori is the RPG of the year that nobody knows
@NoMustang273
2 жыл бұрын
@@ChadHellgado I wouldn't say nobody knows. It's one of the top 10 best rated RPGs on Steam ahead of Undertale. It'd say that it's somewhere between a cult following and blowing up. Strong enough to get a decently large enough following that will hopefully persist years after its release.
@yes-um9ic
2 жыл бұрын
In my country with less English speaker it's underrated tho. Omori imo is those games like Undertale that's once in a lifetime experience kind of game and will live rent free in your mind forever.
@savagexxx2696
2 жыл бұрын
IMO, Omori isn't evil. He is protecting Sunny from his trauma by trying to distract Sunny. This can also be seen in Bleach where Tensa Zangetsu is trying to protect Ichigo by fighting him. Tensa never wanted to allow Ichigo to learn the Final technique as it would be harmful for Ichigo. Similarly, Omori wanted to keep Mari's truth hidden as it would traumatize Sunny. In the end, Omori forced sunny to commit suicide so that Sunny won't have to suffer much.
@artiztix
2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that it's already a year, I saw this game being released, I watched the first theories.. Time flies
@Its_A_Me_Callie
Жыл бұрын
5:46 killed me, thanks for that
@legalza0843
Жыл бұрын
Aubrey was actually VERY close to sunny, like basil Aubrey would vent to him all the time especially with how her home life was because they shared a bond. This would usually take place on the swings. Because of this I sense a high level of trust and if we at all take headspace her into account like you did hero she might have liked him back.
@gabl8a89
7 ай бұрын
Im also second to this interpretation. There are too many hints in the game showing their relationship was quite close. Unlike his memory with Basil, which is more like Basil obsession with Sunny. His relationship with Aubrey is actually mutual, except Sunny see her with remantic interest while Aubrey sees her as best friends after Mari. Without Mari's incident, i feel Sunburn can actually takes place at the two grow more dependent on each others. I actually liked how the mod, Autumn Break depicted their closeness with a romantic twist.
@Minal_Aurapine
2 жыл бұрын
Ok this is slightly unrelated but I realized when you played the library music how much I love it. It gives off waterfall, (Undertale) sunken sea, (Terraria calamity mod) and city of tears (Hollow Knight) vibes. Which are some of my favorite music tracks in games.
@Minal_Aurapine
2 жыл бұрын
Also Imagine how weak you have to be to get into a fight with a short anorexic hermit, stab their eye out and still be worse off to the point where you can't even get up.
@-hypertheninja-4280
2 жыл бұрын
Who else just wants to hug Sunny?
@theonlinetroll6946
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe
@sunnyithink420
2 жыл бұрын
18:51: “sunny, no! *mari falling down”
@Sseraphim
2 жыл бұрын
This was an extremely interesting analysis, thanks for posting!
@bobindin2863
2 жыл бұрын
Let’s go! Edit: Man this is why I watch this channel,the videos are really great and have a lot of effort put into them
@pajamanaut5633
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your continued love and dedication to this game and its community, your OMORI videos are so great. As someone who really loves OMORI, this is so awesome to see, and I'm really amazed by how comprehensive your analysis is. I hope that you get the positive recognition you deserve for making such high quality and thoughtful content.
@shadowcreeperthe4thwallbre6
2 жыл бұрын
This is fascinating *Let's do Hikiomori route!*
@pofficial3345
2 жыл бұрын
Those analysis are so good, gonna watch it later when i have time but i know it's gonna be incredible
@geekyrobot__7316
2 жыл бұрын
for me personally, i never ended up disconnecting myself from sunny,, idk, i guess i do kinda identify with him. a lot of the scenes that people around me found terrifying and depressing just kinda went... meh, to me, cos its kinda what ive grown used to seeing in myself it was the hopeful moments that got to me. the violin solo at the end of the true route. the flashbacks to their childhood and how they all grew together. and- goddamn memory lane dude, that one hit way too close to home. i cant remember a lot of my memories with childhood friends, or i remember them only vaguely, and after finishing the game i spent hours crying because i wished i could have a memory lane where i could relive being happy and carefree and... yeah while playing i always referred to sunny/omori as "we". before and after the truth. because while i wasnt in his exact situation, i got it, yanno? i could understand his thought process, so i never rly felt alienated, if that makes sense
@geekyrobot__7316
2 жыл бұрын
tl;dr: omori is an amazing game and i will never emotionally recover from this. my therapist has heard of this and its actually been a huge motivation in pushing me to socialize again and work towards recovery
@graciedrawz3195
2 жыл бұрын
I am exactly the same. I always referred to sunny as "me" even giving him my own real life name at most points I'm a PTSD patient ,diagnosed and all, the experience of guilt of what had happened..that date, has caused me to spiral into a fit of isolation ,it was close to covid so I didn't have to really worry anyone and still isolate myself, I started sleeping way to much and had dreams where I could have normal sweet relationships, preferably with men and women, but once of a gender non conforming individual, as if to replenish my now destroyed image of romantic attraction, and sometimes intimate attraction. I also cried a lot more in the flashbacks, a childhood I actually didn't even get to have, memories wiped by the amnesia PTSD causes at times, this game was so wild to me, I especially loved the memory route having to take a break every time. I got the true ending on my first run, it was close to when I wanted to do something bad to myself...it mainly kept me back from it, even saved my life you could say. Adding onto my experience I disassociated once, during the crush on Aubrey sequence, laughing and saying "aw you guys are so cute!" I don't know, I guess Aubrey just isn't my type lol
@cavyrose5179
2 жыл бұрын
Great timing with this video! I had just played the game for the first time and beaten it earlier today (I got the true ending
@wowzersimnotcreative
2 жыл бұрын
if you think about it, Mari's scream sounds a little like the sound of Something when it disappears. It may be that that sound comes from Mari's scream.
@superbocky9891
2 жыл бұрын
thank you for all your omori videos! Even after playing many time I still learn little details.
@bobman8664
2 жыл бұрын
Serial Introvert: *omori and sunny is such a good character!* Sunny/Omori: *is literally silent through the whole game*
@karlsargant3985
2 жыл бұрын
Dialogue is not required to flesh characters out
@bobman8664
2 жыл бұрын
@@karlsargant3985 i didnt say they need dialogues to have personalities i was just saying theyre quiet (not saying theyre a bad character tho)
@bobman8664
2 жыл бұрын
@Amobgs 0 true.
@somethingAccurate
Жыл бұрын
both of them do speak though.
@sugar9064
2 жыл бұрын
i love ur analysis videos so much
@Den-rc7uf
2 жыл бұрын
omori may seem empty but inside he's a MANIaC.
@cpwalker0429
Жыл бұрын
Awesome analysis, this was so much fun to watch
@sugaaria29moriah99
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! final duet still makes me cry tho
@nonorihara
2 жыл бұрын
wow loved the analysis it was great!!
@applefan4322
2 жыл бұрын
Just woke up early to watch this, best thing I could've asked for in the morning.
@swiftlyaswiftie
2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad I got the second best ending (I didn't water the flowers) as I have childhood trauma myself, and it felt comforting Knowing someone with a similar mindset/trauma can someday learn to move on
@MarcusFenixKO
Жыл бұрын
I always thought Omori was at first a protector and that the actual guilt is symbolized by the color red, this red then slowly corrupts Omori as time goes on making more of a split personality which two different views. Remember, Omori is the “piano” fully black and white, but that had to chance over time, four years had passed and many play outs of Basil trying to find the truth.
@kiiiirraaa9468
2 жыл бұрын
I noticed something! In 25:27, there are shoes hanging from the power lines. In some neighbourhoods, shoes tied together and hanging from power lines/tree branches signify someone has died. Those are probably BASIL’s shoes.
@kazuma8486
Жыл бұрын
Those been there since day 3
@houraisanproductions5879
2 жыл бұрын
I love the analysis of Sunny/Omori! Gonna go watch Aubrey's when I wake up Also when are we gonna get an analysis for Kel xD
@budzthecoyote98
2 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@Swagpion
2 жыл бұрын
No, nest is basil then hero maybe. Kel is the lowest priority I think.
@anordinaryuser5818
2 жыл бұрын
@@Swagpion how dare you say Kel is the lowest priority. He is the best character
@welcometovibespace5596
2 жыл бұрын
*waits quietly for basil analysis*
@Gaydanganronpafan
2 жыл бұрын
Short theory So uhm when in the omori fight the screams and “no no stop it” And sirens, may actually be Sunny going to the hospital while his friends are screaming for him to live
@juliannachhay9220
2 жыл бұрын
also sunny's name is a reference to how mari's grave said "the sun shined brighter when she was here" referencing how sunny's emotional state was before her death
@getthedunkon9347
2 жыл бұрын
4:40 I'm gonna have to disagree with the wording but the point is fair. I'd say that Sunny is also an extrovert due to him being willing to go to random people's houses to help with math and goes around the whole town without being really tired, but he IS less... emotional than Kel though and Kelis more confrontational. Then again, this is probably a new development.
@shipperina2213
2 жыл бұрын
Extrovert means someone who gets their energy from being around people, so Sunny being an extrovert makes sense since he is shown to be more alive when around people. Though that may be from just having the only person he have been around physically for 4 years being his mom.
@shipperina2213
2 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, Kel comes off as an introvert to me since in headspace he mentions in the picnic that he finds talking with people tiring "That sounds exhausting...I can't small talk at all! That sounds exhausting...I can't small talk at all!", however it may be possible that Kel is an extrovert and Sunny being an introvert is projecting his issues onto Kel
@getthedunkon9347
2 жыл бұрын
@@shipperina2213 I don't think Sunny is projecting his issues at lest not in a way that affects Kel very much... at least not in the true ending. Also don't forget that Kel shows the same attitude in Real world where he tries to end confrontations as quickly as possible and he DOES have a high amount of natural energy so that might be the reason why he can handle thing like that. And the 150 mg of caffeine in orange joe.
@shipperina2213
2 жыл бұрын
@@getthedunkon9347 that or it is practice from trying to find distractions from his issues by basketball, in these types of sports you would need to have a good relationship with others, even if you hate them, you must be able to trust them to help the team. Kel probably just learnt it as a way to make sure he keeps a good relationship with the team which then leaked into his relationship with others
@getthedunkon9347
2 жыл бұрын
@@shipperina2213 And then there is Kel's sync with Sunny where either of them can tend to the other without that person losing a turn. Pretty impressive.
@ioanatoma7312
2 жыл бұрын
Can't believe someone noticed the Romanian meaning as well! Great video overall :D
@alcatraz8694
2 жыл бұрын
we need more of this! pls made more character analysis
@gamerchanleanne8512
2 жыл бұрын
thank you for this video! Omori is a masterpiece game wich going to stay with me forever
@FatherJohnCarmody
2 жыл бұрын
Ive watched about half of your every video lol. I'm not quite done with the game but I like your analysis.
@idkreally3594
2 жыл бұрын
I think that the way omori or sunny says nothing in the face of horror he is presented like the bodys of his friends his different horrific vision of his sister and all the blood and darkness which are downright insane and how during every interaction he doesnt flinch he doesnt get scared (except those few instances ) tells how this is isnt the first time he was here and how for the past 4 years this has been happening many many times so much so that he isnt that suprised or scared by it ,maybe thinking he deserves it.
@raviqirvansyah1304
2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact about Basil : The name Basil is taken from the longest reigning Emperror from Byzantium Empire... Emperror Basil the 2nd...
@SOM_KROW
2 жыл бұрын
30 min long omori analysis videos my beloved
@buttercup3123
2 жыл бұрын
3:13 Yes there is! *Hero tagged Sunny!* *In the hospital* 🙂
@SmileytheSmile
Жыл бұрын
A funny thought: if Omori means "large grove", what would be a different way of saying that? "Vast forest". We're goin' deeper, boys.
@themesongfan452
Жыл бұрын
When people disconnect themselves from Sunny on account of his sin, I don't see that as being the result of good character writing, per se, but rather that the reactor is falling into Omori's trap. The game wants you to experience what it feels like to recover from PTSD. If you reject Sunny's memories of killing his sister and view them as "his" memories rather than "my" memories, then you are disassociating, not unlike Sunny has been doing throughout the game. To truly get the full Omori experience, you must embrace what the game is trying to project back onto you from the protagonist you have thus far projected yourself onto: that these are indeed "my" memories which "I have" been repressing and that "I am" the one who needs to forgive "myself." If you can't do that, then in a meta sense, you have kinda already chosen one of the bad endings. At least, that's my perspective. Of course, I basically had the game spoiled for me before I played it, so I went into the game with the resolve to allow Sunny to project back onto me so as to get that full experience. I can't exactly blame someone for getting jolted out of the game when they played it blind for the first time.
@sage3224
Жыл бұрын
i always thought that the true ending wasn't really that happy. while sunny's something completely disappears, basils something just kind of retracts into his body, like he isn't really accepting everything that happened like sunny is. idk it's just a tiny detail but i thought it was cool
@christopherIF
2 жыл бұрын
Happy first year!
@rinzintube2295
Жыл бұрын
25:50 I think your wrong here since Omori killed himself in whitespace Sunny would have put the knife in his chest but since he doesn’t have a knife he can’t actually die but since he grabs the steak knife the motion of him stabbing himself is real.
@pachicore
2 жыл бұрын
You forgot that Omori is named after the piano that Mari used to play and spend all her time on. I think I'll present a counterpoint to the player's association with Sunny. It actually gets stronger, despite the player disassociating themselves with Sunny, since Sunny even does that following Mari's death. It would actually convey what Sunny's going through to the player There's also a third neutral ending similar to picking the steak knife up before going to sleep. Except you stab yourself in the real world instead of sleeping
@cutetwirll
Жыл бұрын
Really?
@Whoopsie_woggzy
2 жыл бұрын
you nailed it.
@triplepain522
2 жыл бұрын
26:28 aaaand thts where i gotta stop. i still need to play that route..... Amazing video though! I'll for sure come back and rewatch it when i finish
@triplepain522
2 жыл бұрын
I Finally came back to it! Again awesome video!
@littlebee931
2 жыл бұрын
OMORI's name also comes from the piano's name! The piano in FARAWAY has OMORI written on it, and his design is based on a piano.
@Yippeepee2673
Жыл бұрын
“That’s what friends are for”
@masterblockplayz5466
Жыл бұрын
I thought the screams during the final battle were just distorted creepy laughs
@entei8569
2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic
@MBhector
2 жыл бұрын
incredible
@LaPapaya
Жыл бұрын
9:32 I would say that this isn't because the action take us away from the character, but because the character suddenly makes an action without letting us decide. I am the one who come closer to eat the sausage, but is the character who decided to eat the gnome instead.
@giftedlicense3548
2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the only games I know of that, despite helping you give him a name, has a super complex character. Trying to project yourself onto him remains fruitless because he has control.
@SHARKSSSSSz
Жыл бұрын
Wow.. The audioo part was giving me major anxiety. Did not know MARI was screaming "STOP IT, NO!" down the stairs.
@sprungle
2 жыл бұрын
17:23 SWEET MOTHER OF JESUS, I NEVER NOTICED THIS
@pedroba76
2 ай бұрын
This video taught me even more, and forced to emotionally have to accept even more the fact that I can't just run away from thoughts, feelings and problems with coping mechanisms, no matter how healthy they are, or repress. Thanks
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