I am a new fan tackling gundam chronologically. (The actual timeline) So I started with Origins and Thunderbolt but after that I watched 08th MS Team and so on so forth. I think the thing I do to make it so I don't immediately burn out is to just take a break and come back. After watching stardust memory I didn't begin watching zeta for another month or so because I was just gundamed out. I am about halfway through zeta right now and I took a break again and ill pick it up in probably a week or so to finish the second half. I don't personally believe there is a best method to take in the franchise, whatever floats your boat tends to be best I say.
@argonbolt
2 жыл бұрын
I should clarify by chronological I meant release order. What you are doing is actually order of interest, which is perfectly fine, thought I should clear that up.
@tedhodge4830
6 ай бұрын
I started by watching Zeta Gundam, then CCA and F91, then ZZ, and back to first Gundam, then Victory, all of this over a decade ago. I refused to watch Origin or Thunderbolt, or any of the OVAs, until very recently. There is no "right way" to watch them "in order." The entire reason I went back to watch first Gundam was to try and understand why Char goes full Snidely Whiplash in CCA after Zeta, and I still don't understand it. It always makes me roll my eyes when people recommend watch orders. The only thing that happened when I took my girlfriend through the series is that she was constantly confused about which decade we were in, or what the order of events of the series was supposed to be. Anyway, the only real way to start Gundam is to bust out the cathode ray TV and pop on some Toonami Gundam Wing reruns, followed by haphazardly gluing together a Gundam Deathscythe model kit.
@lemonov3031
5 ай бұрын
@@tedhodge4830 your order seems needlessly stupid and complicated
@tedhodge4830
5 ай бұрын
@@lemonov3031 That clearly went over your head, there is no watch order.
@lemonov3031
5 ай бұрын
@@tedhodge4830 Nah. You clearly watched in an order which you made up along the way. It made your experience worse because order does, in fact, matter, and it does exist. You kinda proved it yourself.
@AntiDecepticonCampaign
2 жыл бұрын
I watched Turn-A too early, I am unclean
@bikzimusmaximus5250
7 ай бұрын
I think no matter what approach someone takes to watching any massive series, the key to getting through it, is to just not treat it like homework, and only be commited to the part that you are currently watching. So like... don't watch ZZ Gundam just so you can get to watch Char's Counterattack. Just watch ZZ Gundam because it's ZZ Gundam.
@sladbot3
2 жыл бұрын
Kind of want to do a clarification that Amuro's nationality/hometown changes depending on the iteration of 0079. In the tv anime he was originally from the San'in region in Japan, in the movie trilogy it was changed to Canada and in The Origin manga it was changed to Rosarito, Mexico.
@sladbot3
2 жыл бұрын
If we are of course following the canon set up by Tomino that leads up to Gyaku Char then we can state that Amuro is Canadian merely because that canon is a follow up to the films.
@argonbolt
2 жыл бұрын
It's also mostly a joke i did and doesn't really seriously impact Amuro's arc as a character.
@scuttlefish4667
2 жыл бұрын
Argon is Canadian
@HamburgerMaguire
3 ай бұрын
Hes Mexican in GTO? Yea that's the canon continuity now 😏🇲🇽🦅
@Bubbaj0e
2 жыл бұрын
Man, I just want you know, how much I enjoy and look forward to you videos. It's so hard to find to find 'good' mecha content. Also I hate the argument that if a work has "toys" it is just a commercial. It is an insult to creators that they automatically coast if the work they made has cool designs. There is nothing wrong with cool design that a person might want to have on a shelve. (even if i can't afford them). It also seems to dismiss aesthetics as a part of the art. Sorry, I'm rambling. Good job excited for the next video.
@tedhodge4830
6 ай бұрын
From Tomino's perspective, the toys and sponsors were a means to an end - his ability to create what he wanted. They were also something that got in the way, but in the end, he pretty much did what he wanted. To quote Tomino regarding first Gundam, "I felt bad for the sponsor, but...."
@qashmonie
4 ай бұрын
Love your videos man!
@mechamaniac1567
Жыл бұрын
I've seen it all, barring the SDs and Builds. It hooked me to mecha. Like for real. Hope this series comes back eventually.
@argonbolt
Жыл бұрын
First video is being written/made right now.
@mechamaniac1567
Жыл бұрын
@@argonbolt Just take your time mate! Rare to see actual /m/en on KZitem tackling mecha anime, sick of all the Gigguk-tier casuals who only know of Evangelion, Code Geass (for God knows what reason) and Gurren Lagann. P.S. I'm that one guy patiently waiting for the Gundam X review. How many years it takes, it takes. We have lives outside of anime.
@argonbolt
Жыл бұрын
@@mechamaniac1567 Thank you for understanding.
@g--stef4756
2 жыл бұрын
The use of the ZZ OST in this video is excellent, goddamn. You are a true mecha man in any case, and looking forward to your work.
@tedhodge4830
6 ай бұрын
Side note, apart from the anime, which has by and large been hit and miss, my new great love is the novels. For all the flak that Tomino gets as a writer and a director, I have now discovered his novels at the very end of my journey, and I regret that I didn't pick up the original three books straight off the bat. The original Gundam novel is sick, and I have yet to be let down by Tomino's written works thus far. Currently digging into Hathaway's Flash and Hi-Streamer. The Origin manga by Yasuhiko is the other side of what made Gundam great - a perfect manga by an artist at his peak. Probably singularly the greatest Gundam work of any variety ever made. I am still stunned that no one mentions this when charting out boring watchlists. For anyone skeptical of what the series has to offer, just take a look at Yasuhiko's absolutely marvelous watercolor paintings for The Origin. The Origin manga is widely regarded as a masterpiece. Both the novel and the manga are actually a lot more enjoyable than the original anime, either the TV version or the film trilogy, IMHO, and they serve at least as a delightful side dish to the animated work. I think both Yasuhiko and Tomino would readily admit this, so why shouldn't I? They are both more complete, and less flawed works that anything that has come before or since.
@mitchellalexander9162
7 ай бұрын
Personal the only 'Watch Gundam' Answers I came up with were: *1.* In Universe Chronological: Starting From The Origin or the earliest works in the One Year War and march forward in the U.C. Timeline with occasional ventures into the A.U.s *2.* Pick an A.U. ANY AU: Wing, After War, 00, SEED, AGE Whatever (as long its not in the UC Timeline)! If you like one of those. You'll probably like the Rest of it. *3.* ABSOLUTELY SCHIZOPHRENIC (or the SRW Way or the CHAOS Way): Because of Gundam Wing's Well acknowledged 'Diet UC Timeline Condensing' that serves as its plot with 5 Hot Bishonen guys in the Mechs you could 'theoretically: Make some horrifying Frankenstein's Monster Where: -Amuro's Falling into the RX-78's Cockpit -Kira getting into the Freedom for the First Time -The Sanc Kingdom Arc in Wing -Setsuna F Seiei crashes a Mobile Suit Test with his EXIA -The occasional appearance of Domon Kasshu having a Gundam Fight for an Episode and then flying off somewhere else. ALL of which happen at roughly the Same time like the Super Robot Wars games do to 'blend Mecha properties' and go nuts.
@shockmethodx
2 жыл бұрын
You had me at "Eureka Seven."
@tedhodge4830
6 ай бұрын
Regarding "79 Mobile Suit Gundam anime has old animation" line, it's not that it's old, it's that it was a TV show completed as a rush hackjob with tons of the animation subcontracted out to other studios, and their animation director (Yasuhiko) was so overworked, he literally went unconscious and had to be hospitalized halfway through the production due to heart problems. Even the staff acknowledged how bad the animation was in the original show, and part of Yasuhiko's motivation for working on the film trilogy was to fix the animation that he missed out on while he was in the hospital. You wouldn't say that Studio Ghibli's early works, or that Disney's early works were poorly animated because they're "old," they're incredible and still hold up to anything made today. To paraphrase Yasuhiko, Sunrise was a small studio, and "Gundam wasn't even getting their best," in terms of budget and staffing. THAT's why it looks messy, not because it's old. Huge trope that should be addressed. There's a great documentary about the first series' production with interviews from Yasuhiko, Tomino, Okawara, and the producers that should be watched, as its on KZitem. Yet people always try to tell people not to watch the trilogy for some reason I don't understand.
@TheLVJ
7 ай бұрын
The first Build Fighters is an incredibly subversive and simultaneously earnest series that celebrates the hobby of Gunpla + the sheer fanaticism we harbor for the franchise. It has no right being as good as it still is.
@mattmaddogwheaton4724
2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, Gundam is my favorite anime franchise next to VOTOMS and Macross. And yes, Turn A Gundam is the GOAT.
@aaronf6973
2 жыл бұрын
To see all of Gundam I watched it based on timeline/universe. So I did universal century first then Cosmic Era and so on and so on. Sectioned it off that way and it was easier for me to stay interested.
@argonbolt
2 жыл бұрын
That's not a bad option really, i was tempted to include something like that, but it will also vary person to person quite a bit. So it started to feel like a variation of "Order of Interest".
@aaronf6973
2 жыл бұрын
@@argonbolt yeah my thoughts exactly, it's a neat tidy version of going by interest
@vopop30
2 ай бұрын
Saw Unicorn beginning to end first. Was confused as Hell. Then IBO beginning to end. Thought it was set in the same setting as Unicorn, so was even more confused. About a year later I watched Wing then 00 because they were on my streaming service at the time. Decided to look up Unicorn's placement in the timeline and realized it's the follow-up to 3 shows and a movie. So I said "bring it on!" and watched all of UC in release order. By the time I got back to Unicorn and watched through it again, I concluded that Unicorn is just kind of a confusing story (but not as confusing as Reconquista). Then I decided to go through all the AU's in release order too. So yeah, I went through Turn A before watching much of the post-2000's shows. Guess I failed the assignment.
@argonbolt
2 ай бұрын
That's a valid method
@thomasffrench3639
Жыл бұрын
Although I agree that the tv series is the best place to start than the movies, I did show my brother the movies, for two reasons: 1. I hadn’t seen the movies yet so I wanted to check them out and 2. My brother is notoriously terrible at watching tv shows. He loves AOT, but he is still on episode 79, which is when we last watched it together. But yes, I do agree that the tv shows is both better paced, and a lot less overwhelming.
@argonbolt
Жыл бұрын
I would reiterate that seeing the movies as an in on its own can work, I'm mainly talking about people who only rush through the movies and never give the show a shot. Usually because they are trying to binge everything. Ultimately if the movies help you get into gundam and the show then that works fine. Hopefully that clears that up.
@thomasffrench3639
Жыл бұрын
@@argonbolt I know what you mean. It makes people going in with the mentality that they have to go through the bad stuff to get to the good stuff, which is always a bad mentality to have when watching a long series.
@thomasffrench3639
Жыл бұрын
@@argonbolt not to mention a lot of the “good stuff” that people remember Gundam for are in the first series, so I don’t know why people want to run through it. It’s probably the most iconic of the series, with Zeon and the Federation being the definitive Gundam factions, even though Zeta is technically more popular. Hell, one could even argue that it’s the best series in the franchise, even if I enjoy Zeta and 0080 more, I wouldn’t fault anyone for saying that the best one they’ve seen is 0079.
@tedhodge4830
6 ай бұрын
I'm going to be completely honest, what my official opinion effectively boils down to is - watch 0080 War in the Pocket. As a distillation of Gundam into a communicable format where I wouldn't change one single line, one single frame of animation, it is nigh on perfection. I make general recommendations to people for film, animation, cinema, art, from the standpoint that I think they would enjoy it and seize on the value of it. And the only work of art in the franchise where I have zero reservations is War in the Pocket. You can watch nothing else other than War in the Pocket and get it. There is no prerequisite, no qualification needed. No deep dive into gunpla or Wikipedia required. I would put it up there with Ghost in the Shell, Akira, or Spirited Away. It justifies its own existence, and at the same time it qualifies as what I consider to be mandatory viewing. I recommend nothing else. Where one goes after that is their own business.
@golgarisoul
2 жыл бұрын
Based and Turn A Gundam pilled.
@scoutic
2 жыл бұрын
Turn-A GOATdam
@golgarisoul
2 жыл бұрын
Ooooh, the Armor Core aside hurts from how much that is true for me.
@tedhodge4830
6 ай бұрын
Ah, man, that Cucuruz Doan poster. Why is it so hard to find good Gundam posters like this? I want one for my wall. Where you find these meme, I can read that trash subreddit for weeks and not find a single gem like thees.
@brunoavalos4044
2 жыл бұрын
Back when I was a child I developed hatred and jealousy for gundam because whenever I wanted to talk about Mazinkaiser my friends would say "Oh its like that gundam thing right?" It took me almost a decade of growth as a person to finally stop hating gundam for no reason, funny stuff Oh! Also, the burnout special is my only experience with the franchise would you look at that, the four movies being available on Netflix just makes it too easy to shoot yourself in the foot So to make up for my unjustified vitriol I'll take you up on that watchalong offer, take your time with the next video, I'm gonna need it!
@tedhodge4830
6 ай бұрын
Meh, any time I ever show someone Gundamus to explain my frantic model kit building habit, they say "Oh, is that a Transformer?"
@dragon80l
6 ай бұрын
@@tedhodge4830how the hell are they mistaking gundam for a freaking transformer?
@tedhodge4830
6 ай бұрын
@@dragon80l Just show random people at work or ask acquaintances, it happens all the time
@DeathAlchemist
2 жыл бұрын
In regards to Turn A, is the reason you watch it last is because it references a lot of gundams across timelines?
@argonbolt
2 жыл бұрын
There are many reasons which one day will i speak.
@janbrohal1332
4 күн бұрын
I don't think leaving Turn A for last or one of your last Gundam shows is a good idea. Its why so many people just never get around to it. I get the thematic reasons but its still mostly works as a fully self contained work.
@argonbolt
3 күн бұрын
I mayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy give in to temptation at some point sooner idk we will see.
@TheLPRnetwork
2 жыл бұрын
Gundam Seed Desinty was my first gundam. The first half had me hooked. But the 2nd half had me lost. Then I watched unicorn cause the animation was sick. Understood none of it but the battles were the best I've ever seen.
@dopaminecloud
2 жыл бұрын
slamdergon-z my beloved
@dopaminecloud
2 жыл бұрын
Also I saw Turn A as the very first one because of the interest approach (those designs and that soundtrack man, I stood no chance) and it kickstarted me liking gundam and I recognized and felt the finality in it and will enjoy revisiting it in the far future when it can truly act as the end point it is destined to be. It will be great.
@iceworld6104
11 ай бұрын
are you gonna review the uc mangas? or the uc games. the games have an ongoing story that reaches up until code fairy. and stuff that relates to advance of zeta.
@argonbolt
11 ай бұрын
There are for sure some that interest me, but as is Gundam's animated entries will already take me several years to properly get through.
@discipleofsound4565
5 ай бұрын
TLDR: don't be a consoomer. Make your own opinions.
@kuropiko
2 жыл бұрын
I will never watch Turn A, thank you for this insight argonbolt-sama
@plswhy
2 жыл бұрын
i'm sorry that the king slamdergon-z fandom is so toxic but really i think normie joe would appreciate the slapstick humor referencing curly from the three stooges on episode 36
@Bubbaj0e
2 жыл бұрын
Look if you had to deal with the cliffhanger ending where king slamdergon-z is near defeat by Kaizer Nefarious massive devil form for 50 years you be a little curt too...
@TheLVJ
7 ай бұрын
I'm new to the channel, so I'm not sure if this is a regular thing you do, but constant blocks of text and blurbs fleshing out your thoughts while spoken audio plays is really distracting and hard to follow.
@SchkuenteQoostewin
2 жыл бұрын
You will watch and review all the Gundam series that *you like and find important* , Gundam X fans your target toliet? A bit passive aggressive in my view. Kakarot197 is your senior, he does not call out and attack fans, is respectful, and is not passive aggressive..... Thank you for showing your narcissism, Narc, stop trying to be the Big Daddy D of Gundam....Geekdom is not a Narc either. Attacking the fans and calling them out and being the dominatrix of what is good Gundam makes you look bad.
@argonbolt
2 жыл бұрын
Lol I guess it's true some one out there will always miss the joke and today that's you. I wasn't being passive aggressive about Gundam x, i was saying in order to review each series in depth it will take a while and those who want a particular show might have to wait. I think your ability to detect sarcasm is sorely lacking if you can misinterpret the intent to this badly.
@zetazane
2 жыл бұрын
argonbolt is a narcotics officer?
@plswhy
2 жыл бұрын
@@zetazane that would explain why i was patted down on the junk upon entering the discord server along with the litmus test with questions such as "does gundam seed spit facts" because only those high on the drug that is naive ideas of peace commonly found in southeast asia would answer yes
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