Certina C032.607.11.041.00 is probably my next watch, 43 mm is great for my huge wrists, ceramic, lovely watch.
@robertsmuggles6871
6 ай бұрын
The best side-by-side comparison I think I've ever seen.
@AverageBros
6 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for that feedback, I really appreciate the positivity!
@jazzman5598
Жыл бұрын
Fine vid! The OCD me really appreciates your precision to carefully synchronize both watches to the second….visual ASMR, 😂
@bavedoyd
Жыл бұрын
In terms of style, I think the defining characteristic of any dive watch is the bezel. The Certina bezel is sublime; coin edge, graphic style and size, proportion to case and face, perfection.
@johnrb9397
Жыл бұрын
Go Japan !!! Thank you Belmont watches.
@bryanryan4504
Жыл бұрын
The sumos are one of the most beautiful dive watch designs. I love them have two of them.
@mezcalycafe8702
Жыл бұрын
I’ll take the Seiko. Seiko dial >
@fatboab2181
Жыл бұрын
I really wish certina would bring out the 38mm DS Action Diver with the upgrades they gave to the larger version. Now I've started wanting watches that don't exist. Total madness!
@gmshadowtraders
Жыл бұрын
They will say get lost you have female wrists and laugh at you!
@e28forever30
Жыл бұрын
#notsofatboab?
@iLeetjeeh
Жыл бұрын
DS Action Diver 38mm with ceramic bezel is all I want...
@rbemuscle6058
Жыл бұрын
@@gmshadowtraders LMFAO 🤣
@johnrogers2957
Жыл бұрын
I think they have
@lilorre15
11 ай бұрын
I personally prefer the Certina but both are great!
@belmontwatchessd
Жыл бұрын
Glad we could help out!
@ashleychambers7602
Жыл бұрын
Wow!!!! That seiko looks fabulous I’m definitely having one of those, I’ve 2 of the gen 3’s so love the sumos but this is on another level imo, great video
@fungus70
Жыл бұрын
Would you consider this a gen 4 sumo ? I reckon it's more like gen 3.5
@e28forever30
Жыл бұрын
That Sumo looks wonderful, reminds me of my sbdc069, which I deeply regret selling.. It was running like a champ, very accurate, nuclear lume, unique look.
@aleclerc3
11 ай бұрын
Good thorough video. I like both watches and I own the previous gen Sumo SPB101J. Everything is aligned perfectly and it runs about 3 seconds fast per day. I have a 7” wrist and the size and fit are nice. No mistaking it for a ladies watch.
@rogernewton66
Жыл бұрын
Love your channel my friend...keep up the great content.
@TheDiveWatcher
Жыл бұрын
I like that new model Certina DS Action Diver. I used to have the DS Action Chrono Diver with the quick set date crown. I wished I still had it and Certina didn't replace it with their newer model. I love Seiko but I'm all in on the certina here. Hope you are doing well Mark. Kashton The Dive Watcher
@Jedi391
9 ай бұрын
Certina is the better looking watch. I also won’t even consider a watch without in the fly adjustment on the bracelet so the Certina wins.
@1968jpy
Жыл бұрын
Wow 🤩 this new Sumo is amazing 😍. I own the SBDC033 Blumo but wow I gotta get this new Sumo in the collection 😀👍🏻💯
@Koishishibaman
Жыл бұрын
That Certina is a great looking watch, but sumos wear like turtles. Big watch....but so comfortable. I have an older sbdc069. Stunning watch. The lume? Crazy Strong
@javiercandia3823
Жыл бұрын
Never seen a seiko with that level...looks amazing.
@sengo2143
Жыл бұрын
Level?
@tschoy9388
6 ай бұрын
Seiko always at that level. Smile.
@JeffreyMcMahon
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the excellent review. Do you like your blue MM200 SBDC127 with its black bezel more than this King Ceramic Sumo? Both are very appealing.
@AverageBros
Жыл бұрын
I prefer the case and proportions of the MM200, although this new Sumo did exceed my expectations, the I just have too many other Seiko's that have set the bar much higher by comparison.
@JeffreyMcMahon
Жыл бұрын
@@AverageBros I agree
@Killua_Overwatch
Жыл бұрын
@@JeffreyMcMahon you and I both know this is the budget blue Pelagos killer 😆
@Killua_Overwatch
Жыл бұрын
If there was a sumo to get, this would be the one!
@fungus70
Жыл бұрын
These are exceptional watches and I have them both. The Sumo has somewhat better specs (eg superior lume, ceramic bezel, sophisticated case design) but is more expensive. Love your detailed review/comparison.
@tiagodvt
5 ай бұрын
The only "spec" that is better on the Sumo is the lume. All the rest goes to Certina (it has a ceramic bezel as well). The bracelet and clasp are miles ahead (the outter clasp and diver's extension on the Seiko are cheap as hell). The Certina is ISO rated to 300m instead of 200. The movement is also better and has 10 more hours of power reserve. It has crown guards. I also think the sizing is much better (45 is just too big and it looks weird with 20mm lugs), but the sizing aspect is subjective of course. BUT watches aren't just "specs", if you prefer the Sumo, fair enough. I was just pointing out that your comment on the specs made no sense.
@VladimirPrsic
6 ай бұрын
Great review and comparison. Certina looks much better and classier!
@randyreynolds1045
10 ай бұрын
Certina for me❤
@tschoy9388
6 ай бұрын
Great comparison, thank you Mark. I would like to say, there are no winner. Both are great. In terms of finishing, Seiko is better, but the price is 400 USD higher.
@insightman9632
Жыл бұрын
certina wins. movement, case and bracelet. no comparison here. seiko overpriced
@Data_Man
9 ай бұрын
Torn. That sumo looks amazing and the Certina has the Smurf look.
@MegaLucifer1981
4 ай бұрын
I've seen the Sumo in person and since I'm not a diver, I'm choosing it because it's far more detailed and beautiful ❤️
@tancreddehauteville764
Жыл бұрын
I always go for Seiko quartz divers, but when it comes to automatics I always go Swiss, for better accuracy. I have Hamiltons, Tissots and Certinas and all are +2 or +3 seconds a day. My experience of Seiko autos is not great, and no, I don't want to buy a watch and then have to regulate it.
@sivanstar
Жыл бұрын
I love seiko but did anyone notice that on the dial the 6 hour indicator is a bit off centered to the left?
@sivanstar
Жыл бұрын
The 7 hour seems off centered to the left as well
@ChromeMan04
Жыл бұрын
Lol I noticed it too. Typical Seiko QC issues.
@sengo2143
Жыл бұрын
@@ChromeMan04 Typical enough to be avoided.
@philipwillingham5950
Жыл бұрын
The sumo's bracelet does not match the watch at all. Its so clear during 9:00 ~ in
@paulwilberforce9115
Жыл бұрын
Hmm love the new bracelet
@billylam2448
8 ай бұрын
which is the better buy...pieces at this price point vs rolex super clones?
@isegarm78
Жыл бұрын
I like both. Best bang for the buck. 👌
@canadianwatchmonkey3992
Жыл бұрын
I have the first Gen Blumo and love it, but for me the Oris Aquis remains the king.
@tschoy9388
6 ай бұрын
Oris is double the price.
@canadianwatchmonkey3992
6 ай бұрын
@@tschoy9388 true but still I would purchase the Aquis over the Sumo, that being said they are both great watches at different price points
@oleksandrvalencia869
3 ай бұрын
Certina nice!
@Dirtywesterner
Жыл бұрын
Excellent review, I am a sucker for blue dive watches myself; My $300 San Martin equals if not exceeds both in all categories save for longevity - God only knows how long a pt5000 movement will last and how feasible dropping a new one in is;if I can find a watch repair guy willing to even mess with it. I think the blue version of the new Citizen 'barnacle'would be worth looking at next to these two . Thank you for your hard work
@percysmithhk
Жыл бұрын
Replacing a PT5000 is identical to replacing any ETA 2824 clone. You can interchange the PT5000 with any other ETA 2824-compatible movement (another PT5000, ST 2130, ETA 2824, SW200).
@Mike_911
10 ай бұрын
I would love to buy the Certina but I worry about 43 being to big for my wrist - typically wearing 40 but I want the ceramic bezel so bad - 38 doesn’t have it and the clasp is also a lot worse …
@planetdee3587
Жыл бұрын
Normally I would say the Sumo wins hands down for me. But seeing the newer Sumo (vs my gen 2), I do not like the font on the bezel and I am not a fan of the flat plain bracelet. The clasp is a definite upgrade. But it does not scream different like it use to.
@SmurfPerfect
Жыл бұрын
Sumo atw
@MarekPiekoszewski
16 күн бұрын
Certina would be better with ordinary eta 2824-2 movement
@mariobianchi1909
9 ай бұрын
Seiko Sumo is a beauty.
@1903sunlight
Жыл бұрын
Is this Certina wearable on 17 cm (6.7 inch) wrist?
@mattd9330
Жыл бұрын
Yes
@Jorge-wv4vu
10 ай бұрын
yes
@nkyryry
Жыл бұрын
I wish the Seiko branding on the dial was polished. The plain white text just doesn’t do it for me
@ChromeMan04
Жыл бұрын
Get the presage
@TheBimmer74
Жыл бұрын
The Sumo wins hands down. Dial design and lume. It's worth the price difference.
@rosaliaaurino4266
8 ай бұрын
Certina batte seiko specialmente con il modello ph200 col vetro nex scrstcguard
@gmshadowtraders
Жыл бұрын
Some of you Certina fanboys are rather thuggish in your comments. A rather hyper sensitive bunch lol.
@KeljaSamiNation
Жыл бұрын
Seiko fib about were their watches are made! All the prospects models are made in Malaysia, and it’s almost impossible to find out where because Seiko keeps it a secret. The J versions are made in exactly the same factories there is zero difference between the J and k versions! They are in no way made in Japan the ones that are shipped to Japan are allowed to be labelled made in Japan due to their laws, but they are made in China this is a fact
@averageyoe
7 ай бұрын
Thats a serious allegation.. Seiko confirms that all J models are made in Japan
@dado380
Жыл бұрын
Old 2019 DS had better clasp and better bezel and better bevels while the new 38 DS have fold over clasp,I was really disappointed with Certina as their fan and owner of various Certina watches!!
@ChromeMan04
Жыл бұрын
Certina FTW! The Seiko looks like a Rolex submariner copy.
@gmshadowtraders
Жыл бұрын
45mm.... the world's gone mad!
@e28forever30
Жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with a chunky dive watch!
@adamski101
11 ай бұрын
It wears smaller like most Seikos do. I actually think that the 43mm Certina looks larger. Besides, guys with 7.5" and over wrists like the bigger watches.
@sengo2143
Жыл бұрын
Is Seiko capable of printing the dials with the aligned hour markers?
@jewblin5305
Ай бұрын
Those seiko clasps are an unfunny joke. Especially at the price point some of the watches with the cheap clasps come.
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