Man. If Rolex put that dial in an OP or the Explorer, people would go nuts and pay $10k for it.
@dgdave2673
Жыл бұрын
Rolex has the Oyster Perpetual Datejust Watch Mint Green 126234, which is the closest to this or other way round.
@TriasNT
3 жыл бұрын
Personally, discovering that an unobtainium watch turned into a unlimited AND cheaper edition is excellent news. Nice, informative and comparative review ! =)
@josiprogosic1980
2 жыл бұрын
Got my SPB197J1 last week and I'm loving every second of it!
@daveLin104
10 ай бұрын
Do you still love it ?
@canadianwatchmonkey3992
3 жыл бұрын
Oh that blue is spectacular! I would love to see that with a red tipped seconds hand
@NotThatSlow
3 жыл бұрын
This is totally a do anything watch. Nice enough for dress purposes and tough enough for a camping trip. Yeah, this is amazing. And I own a SARB017. Dang.
@GodIsInHisHeaven
3 жыл бұрын
Love that you made the effort with the Japanese Ukiyo-e background. it's gorgeous. :)
@mrjasonrowland
3 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad I got my 017 new for $350 a few years ago. I’ll take cheaper, thinner, and no AR please. Seiko has almost doubled their prices in the last few years. As for the date magnifier, my 49 year old eyes wish my 017 had one. These days I prefer no date dials as most of the date windows are so small, rendering them almost useless for aging eyes. Thanks for another excellent review. That new dial sure is gorgeous. By the way, I laughed when I heard, “Lucky enough to buy this at MSRP.” The sickness is strong in this one. ;)
@freddyfox5002
3 жыл бұрын
The 017 was a "loss leader" now they are getting their investment back. I wish I was got the 017. Now it's 1000$ new.
@RickyMountain
3 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t decide between the black dial version on a bracelet or for the limited edition and purchase an extra strapcode bracelet for it - I was really torn. Seems like Seiko decided to annihilate any doubt in my mind whatsoever! I’ll definitely go for this one, beautiful dial on a bracelet at a lower price. Sounds like a no brainer to me. To be honest, what they haven’t been very nice to the limited edition buyers unfortunately, glad I waited to purchase it! Great review, beautiful shots, nice insights. You just gained a new subscriber, keep it up!
@SerialWheeler
Ай бұрын
Excellent review! The SPB197j1 is now discontinued and very hard to find. If you have it, keep it. They're already trading over €800 on the grey market. Really glad I was able to get one with a Strapcode for a price lower than retail.
@gav_bray
3 жыл бұрын
I see a blueish grey in this dial. So awesome that Seiko have released this colourway.
@JuanHernandez-dw4vq
3 жыл бұрын
If it ever comes out in salmon dial I would totally go for it.
@watchesandcaps2566
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you and everyone else. It would break the internet.
@Marcuse2010
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. With a glossy black handset.
@toooldfortwowheels2048
3 жыл бұрын
Hadn't even occurred to me that a salmon sunburst would be phenomenal. Good call sir.
@H0kram
3 жыл бұрын
This is too good of an idea for Seiko to do it.
@69fastfurious
Жыл бұрын
And a dial made of Fuji mountain rock, diamond index’s and gold Arabic numbers and platinum case etc. 🤩
@omaar115
3 жыл бұрын
They should release the first blue dial as unlimited, that’s the perfect shade of blue IMO... I love my green dial but a blue would be a perfect complement to the green.
@Bob.martens
Жыл бұрын
I've got the SARB017 and the unlimited glacier, but the blue dial is the one I really want...
@ronin7106
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I see... I see..... another timepiece joining the fold of my watches!
@briancollins1078
3 жыл бұрын
Great review 👏I've just purchased this watch from my local jewellers Totally agree with the light shading on the dial it's just like my seiko sumo hulk from black to green Extremely have with my purchases. Your the first to review the Alpinist SPB197j
@dattsu93
3 жыл бұрын
You didn't buy the SPB199, so of course you don't get why some of us who actually had to rush to buy them at a premium would be upset. The fact that you actually tried to "defend" Seiko and this kind of practice is unbelievable to me (yet you have been one of my go-to youtube watch reviewers). If reviewers like you don't voice up for us average consumers, there's no chance Seiko will reflect on themselves and they will keep screwing us up and doing this kind of deceiving practice in the future!
@nkyryry
3 жыл бұрын
Nothing looks better than the green & gold.
@TheBoldHairspring
3 жыл бұрын
It's very deceiving what seiko just did. I got the spb199j1 the moment it was released and they are re-releasing it in what I consider a better cheaper package? The watch itself is fantastic but I'll probably sell mine just to try to forget what's just happened. And I'm a huge fan of some seiko models such as the mm300 which I plan to get soon but that doesn't mean I will defend them when they've clearly f------ up!
@TheFailedWatchmaker
3 жыл бұрын
Did the same but luckily just before it was confirmed. Sold it for the retail price so as fair as can be. All companies make these f ups but I wouldn’t have enjoyed that particular alpinist model anymore. I spoke with a few seiko reps and they’ve written me that the spb201 LE will not be re released in the way the 199 was so I’m going to get that. They said it was a mistake what happened and apologised but couldn’t stop the release. Have found the 201 for €700 so a saving of €180 and a real LE (hopefully) 🥺
@tomgear3107
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was very annoyed I emailed the seiko boutique which is where I got my spb199j1 they offered me a return and they would send me the new one on the bracelet and refund the difference. But I can get it cheaper elsewhere than the boutique so im unsure if its work the hassle for £110.
@MrVitamincpp
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheFailedWatchmaker you are a believer :) apology not accepted
@sloopjohnb3605
3 жыл бұрын
Good review., thanks. I will order one from same place you did.......keeping fingers crossed it works out.
@Ocean-Nomad
3 жыл бұрын
Meh..whatever, I have a LE199. Paid retail. It is worth the retail price. Especially with the sand color strap on. I think it's going to keep the retail value anyway, and with the buy back offer from Seiko I might even trade it up for a Grand Seiko.
@philagee
3 жыл бұрын
There's a rumor the blue-dialed SPB089 is getting re-released, just like the glacier.
@TheGamblersHand
3 жыл бұрын
If this happens the head of the watch won’t be identical. Seiko will never not use the X and they’ll continue using the see thru caseback. And the cyclops will remain. So if they release that same dial colour as the 089 it’s not the same situation we have as with the 199/197. Had they released the 197 with a different colored compass pip, green instead of yellow for example. That would have been enough for people to say yeah okay it’s at least got something that makes it different. But that’s not what they did.
@simonwood5587
3 жыл бұрын
A couple of years ago we were thinking possibly the alpinist was going to be extinct. Since then seiko release variations by the bucket load.... holding out for the reinterpretation of the laurel version this summer.... seiko releasing so many killer mid range pieces this year spoiled for choice had to nail the wallet shut 😃
@HRM.H
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah we need a new laurel alpinist. Something with a hi beat movement
@Scimittar
Жыл бұрын
Where you stand depends on where you sit. I know some people say Seiko screwed up their customers with this whole limited edition history, but the people that got their hands on SPB197 are also Seiko customers and they don't feel screwed up xD Plus - the people that complain about it the most probably are pissed off because of potential drop of the limited editions resale value. So they don't care much about the watch itself, it's about the money. I don't care. I'm happy more people can own this beautiful watch.
@moorwatch9654
3 жыл бұрын
Just got mine in the post, love it!!!
@kostal7210
3 жыл бұрын
holy crap one of those 3 watches has a perfect chapter ring, it's more rare than spotting a big foot
@dgdave2673
Жыл бұрын
Lol, my brand new one is misaligned without any surprises 😂
@lankymk
3 жыл бұрын
Solutions for something 'they' should have never done. Reading your video discription, it's not abit of damned if they don't release a limited edition and damn if they do, how you come to that conclusion is beyond me. They released a limited edition watch then repackaged the same watch as a non limited edition......
@MrVitamincpp
3 жыл бұрын
In the video the justification of this appalling Seiko move is even more surreal. "Seiko is the first company to offer a refund for a LE product they sold you." Maybe that's because Seiko is the first company to do such an unfair and scornful marketing move?
@lankymk
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrVitamincpp yep, there's definitely been some strange "damage control" justifications.
@nasiruddin-pj8jt
3 жыл бұрын
I received my Seiko spb197 today at a very good discount price ( 20% off retail price ) I still like my sarb017 I think the Seiko sarb017 is a special watch, but anyway I think people are still waiting for that Seiko spb241 alpinist that’s why it’s new and you get a discount
@manjunathba212
3 жыл бұрын
May i know what was the final price ??
@jinghern8182
2 жыл бұрын
Hi! May I ask where did u get it from?
@El-AYE-Ra1s3d
2 жыл бұрын
Got mine about a week ago and i love it. But honestly i dont see the blue. I mostly just see green and blue. Its a very beautiful dial tho 👊
@righton1
3 жыл бұрын
Looks great bud. Looking at my skx thinking “damn I need a new crystal” lol
@johntocho8954
3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison video! And I ordered the Unlimited today, so thank you very much. I also was lucky enough to get a Hodinkee Alpinist on day 1. Love the dark blue. Do you know if the Seiko Prospex SPB159J1 Prospex Alpinist crystal without the cyclops could be swapped out for the Hodinkee Alpinist crystal? The watch sizes are slightly different, but maybe the crystal is the same. The reflection film on that crystal could really make the Hodinkee Alpinist better. Would really appreciate your feedback. Thank you!
@alar1881
3 жыл бұрын
I hope next time you buy a Limited Edition watch, the company re-release it few weeks later for much cheaper + a bracelet and then we will see how you feel about what Seiko did
@AverageBros
3 жыл бұрын
Okay, I'll be happy I have my watch and I'll be happy others will have a chance to own too, lol. I don't know why anyone would ever consider 2020 units, as something collectable, worthy of all this anger. There are regular production watches that will never hit that mark.
@maxp5422
3 жыл бұрын
@@AverageBros stop making excuses seiko fucked up admit it
@alar1881
3 жыл бұрын
@@maxp5422 Don't bother mate, this guy is fanboy, for him Seiko can do no mistake.....
@watchesandcaps2566
3 жыл бұрын
@@AverageBros for a company that makes millions of watches a year, 2020 units is very limited.
@AverageBros
3 жыл бұрын
@@watchesandcaps2566 like I said, from the outlook of a buyer, why anyone would consider an $800 watch with 2020 units as collectable to the point of all this outrage. If people paid above retail based on exclusivity, they enabled dealers and scalpers to take advantage of enthusiast. Seiko didn't make anymore then their normal wholesale on these, while everyone else was trying to make a quick buck on the aftermarket.
@ModernGeekReview
3 жыл бұрын
These are very nice ones!
@GodIsInHisHeaven
3 жыл бұрын
Hodinkee had images of the blue one that looked like it was matte blue....that looked way better than the sunburst dial it actually is...
@Floortile83
3 жыл бұрын
Look at how much Seiko watches sell for over MSRP on the open market. Clearly Seiko is selling their watches way below what people are willing to pay. People should be thanking Seiko for selling at a discount.
@watchreviews4k
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting review. Regards.
@RedwoodAggie
3 жыл бұрын
The Mountain Glacier dial is really cool, but I am still just stunned by the blue SPB089. That's good, since I own one (also purchased at MSRP).
@TheLumeRoom
3 жыл бұрын
Superb, thorough review as always. Looks like I need to get that European Alpinist now!
@rong6422
3 жыл бұрын
Love the video and dial comparisons. I’m curious, which bracelet came on your new unlimited edition mountain glacier? I own a 199 and bought it because of the dial. I ended up paying a bit of a premium because it was a limited edition. This wasn’t an issue because I thought it was a limited edition like the US version. I don’t like that they rereleased the same watch within 6 months. If I would have known I would have just bought the regular one. As for the bracelet, I ended up getting the M0PF111J0 because I liked how it looked on the blue alpinist in your previous video.
@TheGamblersHand
3 жыл бұрын
The bracelet on the newly released 197 has the reference number MOTZ411J0. Same as on the 117 and baby alpinist green dial.
@HRM.H
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah i would feel shafted if they did this to me. Sucks alot...
@ronin7106
3 жыл бұрын
Hi. Just another question please with regards to the AR coating. Is it double AR coated from both the inside and outside? Thanks.
@willidevegt8831
3 жыл бұрын
I bought the Alpinist SPB199J1 seeing this now it was the last Seiko i bought. I also have to disagree about you calling the box of the limited edition nicer plus you say the dealers mark up the price which i disagree as the Seiko boutique statet the price as being EUR 790,- so that's a 100 EUR more than this one
@noelevans8239
3 жыл бұрын
The calendar is-out of alignement or is it on the way midnight?
@gmartirosyan
3 жыл бұрын
Do SPB199 and SPB197 have the same dial?
@asmrstreet5359
3 жыл бұрын
They are exactly the same watch
@theenavybluemonster
3 жыл бұрын
That’s beautiful!
@viranjith
3 жыл бұрын
great video!
@waynesellers4078
3 жыл бұрын
Never understood why they didn't do a timing bezel or dual time bezel for these
@mykytaradko5776
8 ай бұрын
Where can I find these watches? Google search didnt yield anything for blue grey dial, nothing at all
@Bob_In_Thailand
3 жыл бұрын
If it wasn't for the green sunbirst dial of the Sarb017 I probably would have never had any interest in the Aplinist. I am not a fan of the later models due to the Prospecs logo. I do like some of the older Aplinist models like the red alpinist and a couple earlier models. The newer models do not interest me in the least.
@bndz046
3 жыл бұрын
Very nice review! And I also agree with you about the color.. This is not like the other 2 boring colours that you showed earlier. I feel so lucky I was able to buy these brand new for $750. And they ship to 🇺🇸 for free. I believe they only have 1 left in stock. I checked ebay but they don't have these.. They have the spb199j1 though for a ridiculous price.
@joshuadarrington.
3 жыл бұрын
where?
@MrVitamincpp
3 жыл бұрын
next will be Galaxy exclusive Seiko SPB197/199 sold only in Milky Way
@tilio9380
3 жыл бұрын
Having a limited edition that can only be sold in a particular region is stupid enough. Having a non-limited edition be a regional exclusive is just flat out rediculous.
@MrVitamincpp
3 жыл бұрын
@@tilio9380 Seiko had to come up with something to not admit that they re-release a LE watch as a completely non limited version, I own the spb199 and I like it, but it will remain my last Seiko ever bought, offering return for a refund is not an option for me, I've bought the watch through a friend in Paris from Seiko boutique and would not bother (myself and her) for the 200EUR difference, exclusivity is much much more important for me, instantly owning something special and unique turned into owning a common and ubiquitous low market watch, if I haven't bought the LE version, I wouldn't have bothered with this new version at all.
@tilio9380
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrVitamincpp Lol. The thing about 'exclusivity' is that there will inevitably be scalpers who buy them and then jack up the price to the stratosphere. It kind of reared its ugly head last time they launched the US exclusive blue edition, ans was ten times worse this time around for the 199. I actually am kind of glad Seiko launched the non-limited edition as a middle finger to those scalpers who are just in for a quick buck.
@lankymk
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrVitamincpp I'm with you on this, I love my SPB199J1 but I won't be looking at Seiko for any of my future watches.
@maxp5422
3 жыл бұрын
@@tilio9380 again you ignore the fact most where bought by genuine collectors seiko let me down bigtime
@moorwatch9654
3 жыл бұрын
Are the 199 and 197 dials actually the same? 199 looks more aquamarine in the publicity stills
@irwinhdx6666
2 жыл бұрын
Hi just curious, can the Masters in Time be trusted? there have been strongly mixed reviews about it. I’m based in Singapore and was considering ordering from the site.
@SequoiaNagamatsu
Жыл бұрын
Already well over $1000 USD online :/
@leighcoloma6883
Жыл бұрын
Hello im planning to order in Masters in Time and im located in Los Angeles. May i ask if do we need to pay any additional taxes on delivery?
@jc944t
3 жыл бұрын
Seriously good find but I'm confused here. I can't see the difference between limited edition and this one. The limited SPB199J1 comes with 2 straps and this comes with a bracelet for less ... is that it !? Stationed here in Europe so I might just pull the trigger. Thanks!
@AverageBros
3 жыл бұрын
In a nutshell, yes. The LE is just the combination of straps, packaging and edition numbering, while this one is just a bit more simple. I will say, I haven't held the LE in hand and it is advertised as an Emerald green, which this watch rarely renders as. Although in dim lighting, I do get deeper green hues.
@jc944t
3 жыл бұрын
@@AverageBros Copy, I pulled the trigger after checking what the limited edition is selling for over here ...averaging 1100-1400 Euro. Unbelievable. Thanks again!
@bobbybodybagz7207
3 жыл бұрын
The green is the goat blue dials are a dime a dozen
@tilio9380
3 жыл бұрын
I wish the scalpers are having a good time trying to sell their "only worn once" LE 199 at rediculous prices. 😂
@tilio9380
3 жыл бұрын
Limited Edition is a concept whose original intent is to market a sense of 'exclusivity' to dedicated fans of the brand. However, without any kind of preventative measures, it will inevitably create rediculous price gouging by dealers and become a 'gold mine' for scalpers in the aftermarket trying to make some truly humongous margins. I see this as a giant middle finger up the ass of those people, and I personally am absolutely enjoying it. : )
@maxp5422
3 жыл бұрын
So what about genuine collectors like me are you happy I've been fucked
@tilio9380
3 жыл бұрын
@@maxp5422 If you bought at retail price, then good for you. You are still getting a watch that is worth the money (and you get that LE text on the caseback), as I don't think the retail is too overpriced. If you paid a scalper a rediculous amount of money for it, then I'm sorry, you are part of the problem.
@MrVitamincpp
3 жыл бұрын
Are you from China, you sound anti free market and generally very communistic to me :)
@maxp5422
3 жыл бұрын
@@tilio9380 your arrogant I paid retail I clearly said I was a collector scalpers can suck a......
@harrykuo2573
3 жыл бұрын
that compass ring not aligned properly is killing my joy. Diver with diver ring and alpinist with compass ring.... come on now Seiko..
@OmittingNumber
3 жыл бұрын
Mind sharing what bracelet you have your SARB017 on?
@m.l.679
3 жыл бұрын
I'm also interested to know!
@mrjasonrowland
3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a Strapcode maybe. About $95 on Amazon and really good. They also have a more expensive jubilee as well. Just a guess anyway.
@kfrankie6912
3 жыл бұрын
It’s the original Sarb017 and Sarb015 bracelet. You can find it from seiyajapan nor gnomonwatch ... but it’s very expensive. I think 168 from seiya and 200 from gnomonwatch
@you.8208
3 жыл бұрын
wtf! i bought a spb99j1 limited edition and now, its no more exclusiv
@renatofrancorosas1397
3 жыл бұрын
How can I get the glacier one????
@Whatever1918rev
3 жыл бұрын
So in this video it looks predominantly blue, which I like. But UK AD's describe the dial colour as anything from 'blue' to 'green', 'anthracite', 'grey', and even 'emerald gray' (how does that even make sense?!). I notice that Seiko's own UK online store simply calls it 'green' - but it's surely more blue than green, right?! I want one, but not if it looks green, I have a SARB017 for that.
@AverageBros
3 жыл бұрын
Correct, mostly a lighter blue/grey but in darker situations can render blue/green
@Whatever1918rev
3 жыл бұрын
@@AverageBros Thanks for confirming, I ordered one the next day and am now a proud owner of a spb197j1 - the dial is incredible, instantly my favourite watch! 😃
@peterwilson1914
3 жыл бұрын
Great just ordered mine with a 15% discount was thinking of getting the limited edition version glad I held off...that said the two straps Seiko throws in look to be worth over £70+ but still not in this cheaper bracelet ballpark. I think buyers are right to feel outraged. The American blue version was limited but then only the scalpers benefit or those that ordered on that specific day fuelled by the Hodinkee effect
@toni8555
Жыл бұрын
The watch is nice, but very disappointed with the caliber 6R35
@felipec2157
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t see green what so ever on this dial unless in person it could be.
@jakekowalchuk7962
3 жыл бұрын
I’m looking for a watch $5000 cad or lower that is a great everyday watch. Timeless design, date window and waterproof to at least 100m. Any suggestions? Thanks.
@benedge2202
3 жыл бұрын
Oris big crown pointer date would be my pick.
@TheJessfletcher17
3 жыл бұрын
Ball
@ihasmax
Жыл бұрын
Really wanted to love mine but it felt too small on my wrist 😩
@salimr4718
3 жыл бұрын
If someone could gift me the blue one, it would make me most happy. Why wouldn't you want to make someone happy?
@ssnando75
2 жыл бұрын
Did you have to pay any customs duties?
@nkyryry
3 жыл бұрын
What the fuck were they thinking with that cyclops. Who thinks that looks better than the old version?
@XHobbiesPrime
3 жыл бұрын
Ah the limited edition blue Alpinist that most people weren't able to get. Downvote.
@davidtrachtenberg7095
Жыл бұрын
Masters in time shows it as a 38mm watch. You state that it is over 39mm.
@AverageBros
Жыл бұрын
Depends on where you measure the case from
@davidtrachtenberg7095
Жыл бұрын
@@AverageBros what is the lug to lug? I have a small wrist….6.25.
@AverageBros
Жыл бұрын
@@davidtrachtenberg7095 46.3mm
@armancz
3 жыл бұрын
I'm done with Seiko, fcuk their "limited edition" bullsiht games
@Sturmtruppe1997
3 жыл бұрын
"Won't be sold out."
@AverageBros
3 жыл бұрын
Lol, won't be sold out forever, they'll restock, since they're not limited editions
@MrJamesDuffy
3 жыл бұрын
I see a fog grey. I have never been a fan of that particular Alpinist dial layout but that beautiful and unique color might make me look passed it.
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