Haven't used the nest. But I am very happy with the hive. Simple and easy
@PedalBikerUK
Жыл бұрын
That's been exactly my experience. Some systems offer so many useless bells and whistles they put me off completely.
@mryan4452
6 ай бұрын
@@PedalBikerUKwell said silly add ons 95% of people won't ever use
@navinsoni3979
Жыл бұрын
Great video. Very informative. I'm a local plumber, and you have helped me recommend my customers when installing or up grading their heating systems. Thanks
@ludoholub6365
3 жыл бұрын
Hi. Great comparison. I have Nest thermostat installed 2 years now and I'm very satisfied with it. I've also followed your installation video which helped me to install Nest into my system. Thanks, keep up good work!
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@TheBClark88
11 ай бұрын
I've had both and liked both. Both do ultimately similarly things - allow you to set schedules and then remotely turn the heating on or off if you need to. For me they both have pros and cons. The Nest is nicer to look, I like the 'walk towards' feature for the weather when heading out the door, the learning thing is clever, and it has Opentherm. However I don't like that it needs plugging in - if you want it neatly on a wall you need to chase a cable in. Also lack of same-brand smart TRVs is unfortunate. Hive is battery powered so you can put it anywhere, has the 'boost' function which is handy, and scheduling is easier. No Opentherm though, less attractive, and you have to have the bridge thing (whatever its called) somewhere near the router.
@azz111full
10 ай бұрын
Can you charge the nest?
@stephendoherty8291
8 ай бұрын
Plus the cheaper Nest E was hobbled by no water heat control even if less sexy design.Not seen many hardware upgrades.
@joannef3874
Жыл бұрын
Great overview. I’m about to have Hive installed at a holiday let. The aim being that I can control the heating remotely and turn it off after guests leave, then back on when new guests are due. You don’t talk about that ability in your video. I would have found that helpful. A lot of these thermostats are being used by Airbnb owners. Thanks for a clear and detailed overview of both Hive and Nest. 👍
@ianpadgett8032
Жыл бұрын
this is an internet stat so you can turn it on off up or down after they go no problem
@Land-of-reason
Жыл бұрын
You can control NEST remotely from the app.
@miskindoc
Жыл бұрын
That was the clearest video I have viewed regarding smart thermostats. The evidence, both for and against, is presented in an easily digestible form. The great thing is that after viewing the video, I am much clearer as to which direction I will go with regard to installtion. Many thanks.
@Teddibere1
3 жыл бұрын
I would really love to "win" this fabulous thermostat. I am a lady Pensioner, but I CAN work "smart" devices, as I am quite "tech savvy" for an older Gal. Lol. I have an Amazon Echo Plus, which was a present to me 2 years ago. I use it all day, every day. I have a Combi Boiler, so I only need heating control, not water, so this one you have would be perfect for me. My boiler receiver and thermostat is not working properly, so I have got to buy a new one - and pay for the installation. Unfortunately, I could NOT afford to buy one as wonderful as this one you are gifting to someone. Fingers crossed I can win this Hive - Lol. Great video!! Very clearly explained, with no nonsense or faffing about.....straight to all the important points and the video covers ALL aspects. I understood your video completely. I've watched this video four times now!! Lol. Thank you so much.
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
alright Teddy, you are the last person to be included in the draw! I am just about to reocrd the draw now
@sandhuranjeet
3 жыл бұрын
Well explained, choosing one of these is much easier now.
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
glas it was helpful
@martinwhite3005
2 жыл бұрын
IIRC the Hive system when using the hive Thermostatic Radiator Valves works in that the TRV's in a room tell the Hive thermostat to be set to 22°C when the room (TRV) set point is reached and in that way turn the boiler on. For most people this is fine, but my very elderly father needed room heated to 25-26°C, which meant that the hive thermostat would not actually turn the boiler on as the room was above 22°C. Maybe with the new Hive hub, the TRV's talk directly with the hub and not via the Smart thermostat. Due to this issue with the hive I went with the Drayton Wiser system where each TRV talks directly to the hub to turn the boiler on and not via a temperature set in the room thermostat. I've now fitted the Wiser system to 3 houses and to be honest found it fab. Very nice interface in the mobile app which seems to get updates fairly regularly. Definitely a system to consider, maybe worth doing a comparison.
@naderehnew1637
8 ай бұрын
Clear, concise and professional comparison of Nest versus Hive thermostats. 👍
@paulcowan3222
3 жыл бұрын
a nice simplified explanation of a subject I know nothing about. Due to lock down and medical problems with my wife and I, we are spending more time at home and have 4 different times to set per day is confusing, I just want one that that I set for wake up and bed time the same for all 7 days.
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
You can do it on both
@humperlumper62
Жыл бұрын
I self installed a Hive thermostat for me combi boiler and love the simplicity and ease of using it.
@BrianJaikens
Жыл бұрын
Very informative. I like the realistic points made in the video without overblown presenting. Just the facts. Almost a refreshing change to most KZitem videos. I think I would go with the Hive after watching this.
@robertdovey80
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I have gone down the Wiser route where I have a thermostat in each room room and you can modulate the boiler. Only problem is that I have a Worcester Combi which I don’t think has Open Therm.
@pabloca6524
Жыл бұрын
I was normally following electrician videos about solar panels and green energy but your videos are great and full of knowledge. Keep up with the good work mate! Subscribed of course.
@alistairramsay2296
2 жыл бұрын
Fixed both Hive and Nest for my customers, I thought I had all the information needed ! Clearly Not . Easy informative watch ,Thank You .
@UrbanPlumbers
2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome
@johnjacques3777
2 жыл бұрын
Was thinking of buying an hive until I watched this video many thanks for the advice
@JayGasEssex
2 жыл бұрын
Hive is much better mate... Nest will frustrate the hell out of you , trust me.
@RB-eg7mj
Жыл бұрын
Both are best. Depends on what you want. I love my Hive at home. With the Rad valves I can control each room individually. Nest is great for a commercial / public spaces. Control each area. It is without a doubt the most intuitive piece of kit. I have never had to explain how to turn up the temperature.
@anthonygarnham8661
3 жыл бұрын
finally!! after months of research.... simple clear explanation on plus & minus for each model..thanks!
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
glad I could help!
@geoffwilson007
2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting information on both of these digital thermostats.Love the more futuristic styling of the nest…that would be the likely winner for a lot of people 👍🏴👍
@MiamiCereal
2 жыл бұрын
Sadly hive is being abandoned/shot down by 2025
@johnvickers2382
3 жыл бұрын
Very comprehensive appraisal. I like that you gave your personal choice. Thank you.
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@spurgeonrj
Жыл бұрын
I have the Hive system here in the UK with a modern system boiler. Just wanted to point out that if you also buy their range of TRV (smart thermostatic radiator valves) then you can in fact have a multizone system that can control each room individually and it works pretty well. Also you can set the TRV's to automatically control the boiler via a setting called Heat on demand. This means that the rooms themselves tell the boiler to heat up only if the room requires heating. These can all be set on their own schedules which for me is better since I stop worrying that the boiler could remain running. Also if you have a smart meter (i don't) apparently it will monitor the gas usage and report back if you are using more gas than usual. If you don't have a smart meter, you can add your tariff details and it will estimate usage (not so accurate). The only bad thing is that the hot water is not included in this reporting which is a shame. Also you currently can't control the TRV's from the website, only they app. You can boost a single room or a set of rooms based on a routine.
@Molinacaveman
Жыл бұрын
How long do the battery last on the TRVs
@spurgeonrj
Жыл бұрын
@@Molinacaveman Depends how often they are activated, however I installed them just after Black Friday of 2021 and the batteries are still going strong so I suspect from 18months to 2 years. Each TRV has two AA batteries.
@bjorn2625
8 ай бұрын
@@MolinacavemanI’ve got a tonne of these. About a year for 1.5V alkaline. About 6 months for 1.2V rechargeable.
@darrenp8509
3 жыл бұрын
Great video - I was looking to install a Nest on my partners dual zone and hot water tank system, your previous video made it seem possible, but having now watched this, I'm going to get Hive to save the fitting hassle. Great accent too, you should do audiobooks.
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
Will keep that in mind :)
@agbowley
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video - I wish you lived near me!!
@lynnew5619
3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I’ve changed my mind about which one to purchase! Thanks.
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
Happy it helped !
@chrisstjohn9403
Жыл бұрын
Whilst i like technology, i get so fed up with having to reinstall the wi fi password. Im hooked on your videos.
@andyuk7665
3 жыл бұрын
Great video and explanation, after which i decided not to buy either as I don't leave the heating on when I go out and it only takes a few minutes to heat up when i get in. My basic battery wifi operated Honeywell thermostat , which is programable, does the job just a well and won't drop out if I lose the internet connection, which does happen on occasion. At £187 it would take me years to recoup the outlay. So thanks again for saving me money.
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
No worries
@QueensVelvet
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking your time out to help us out. I'm new to plumbing, been forced to learn some skills now that I'm a widow! Loved the bathroom makeovers! Learning loads from you so I don't get taken for an idiot wee woman by prospective plumbers! Cheers man. 👩🔧
@advent3774
Жыл бұрын
Great video ! Very easy to follow , explained the pro’s and con’s of both and what systems/ boilers they are suitable for , so anyone could / should be able to choose which product is suitable for their system, I wish all were as good as explaining tech stuff as this chap is 👍
@UrbanPlumbers
Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@P12NCE
3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t tried either of these products yet. On my latest project we are installing a nest thermostat. The look is much more modern and sleek IMO, so goes with the decor. Great video as always
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
Yes they look cool
@robcoulson6897
Жыл бұрын
Another great video as always. Clear and precise. Much appreciated.
@johnflanagan3916
Жыл бұрын
I’ve had a Hive system in our previous property and we are looking to change our boiler too. This would be very much appreciated. Thank you for some great advice. John
@davec200i
Жыл бұрын
Often wondered what the pros and cons of each are. Very informative, thanks!
@michaelwatts3345
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent overview from a very knowledgeable engineer. Other videos in this series are excellent as well.
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@jomarpires34
3 жыл бұрын
Have seen your review on this one and also how to install both. Extremely useful and we'll prepared. Making a decision now on which one... But will definitely ask a professional to install. Learnt quite clearly that the initial install might beyond me which is already a substantial save... Well done!!
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
thank for the comment!
@Jorge-yd8ur
3 жыл бұрын
Great video !!! Thanks !!! I was doubting on which one is better thanks !!! Already subscribed for new videos !!!
@RobinMorris-FollowMeChaps
Жыл бұрын
Great summary thanks. I just bought the Nest and am now reassured I've made the right choice 👍
@timmyalden3680
Жыл бұрын
It was a good video straight forward and easy to understand - when boiler plus came in (UK) I chose Hive to fit less money and more straight forward to fit - made sense however i switched to nest because I fitted a hive in a rental property but the tenants did not stay there long and when I returned to complete the new landlord certificate I asked the new tenants how they were getting on with Hive they said they were unable to use it via their phones - I offered to help they said I couldn't they understood the tech but had there own internet connected when they moved in and were unable to connect - so contacted Hive who told them they had to do something at there end to allow them to connect to a new router and that would cost them sixty something pounds - good old British Gas - never miss an opportunity - may have backfired on them in this case as I straight away switched allegiance to Nest
@AvalonInnovationsUK
2 жыл бұрын
The differences are really well expalined, thank you!
@UrbanPlumbers
2 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@mkaminski100
2 жыл бұрын
As we found the far sight on NEST is not so great if you have pets. Not sure if this was not updated recently but when we had this on our dog would trigger the thermostat to heat all day even with geotagging function when we were out. NEST recently released a major update and changed several features like ECO function when you leave the property finally works properly, but it must be manually turned off which is annoying. The upside of this update is that it looks like they set the temperatures below desired values to see when occupants are too cold and then adjust when required. I think it works better this way. NEST was also very annoying with the preheat function of 5h as it would start heating up at 2 am to meet the set temperature at 7, even though it only took 30 mins to heat up. I have reported it multiple times and Google could not resolve it, but there must have been a problem, as it was fixed with the next update I tried both and yes, the HIVE thermostat was easier to use, but as you said it didn't offer the EcoTherm communication protocol, which apparently even with limited functionality with many boilers (I have an Ideal Vogue) still allow for better modulation. HIVE could only turn the boiler on, while NEST will run the pump for a little longer to "extract" residual heat from the system. Lastly, both have poor history graphs and both don't offer the "open window" function like TaDo which turns heating off once cold draught is detected. NEST doesn't worth with smart thermostat valves, not sure about HIVE but I don't think it had this function.
@Land-of-reason
Жыл бұрын
All farsight does is activate the display - it does not turn the heating on/off. The home/away function is automatic - it is brilliant allows heating to function when a family member is home. You can set it to activate for each family member who has app. It does have a function to turn on the heating at a low level to prevent the system freezing in cold weather (called ECO TEMPERATURE - you set that level to your choice) but that is a good feature.
@YoutubeHero666
Жыл бұрын
Hive does have smart TRV's
@carlnelson9976
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Looking forward to others.
@leexgx
10 ай бұрын
Only issue I have with nest thermostat (ones with metal ring) it's best if you don't ajust it via the metal ring (use the app) as you end up heating up the nest (usually takes over 15-60 minutes to stabilise) Nest heater controller wires use the Bootlace Ferrule on the end of the cables (I agree they made the holes way to small) nest needs to show temperature in 0.1c increments and stop using a F to C conversion in the background, as in the app and the nest device (20c might be 19.8 or 20.2c when adjusting it in the app, the dial might be 19.9 or 20.1c) hive is 0.1c increments it shows with 0.5c set points (but major downside is it's off and on is +/- 0.1c (so if it's set to 20c it switch's on and off if it's above or below 20c by 0.1c witch can damage some heating systems (nest is 0.3c and has a rapid off/on delay when operating automatically, if user changes tempture manually it still acts right away) Note on hive you don't have to press the button to confirm temperature (change it to temperature you want and it sets when you stop moving knob) , be nice if hive had motion sensor and working geofencing like nest (it sending you a stupid popup to turn your heating off and on is stupid on hive) Hive can do mutizone (more Then 2) if you use the hive TRVs as they can be set to heat in demand (each TRV becomes a thermostat) and each TRV has its own temperature and schedule setting you can configure That said I am moving to a homekit type system aqara home, m2 hub that can he used wireless or wired mode and maybe use homekit and supports matter now (for use with home assistant and Google home) , using Aqara TRVs (each room has a aqara temperature sensor and aqara let's you link each trv to a remote temperature sensor) and TVOC temperature sensor, as long as the hub is powered everything works (Internet failing does not mean system fails) all devices are zigbee and matter compliant (well the TVOC is only zigbee at the moment) any aqara can turn heating on
@pinkzjewellers577
3 жыл бұрын
Very good video for anyone needing to know the real time facts and unbiased review, very clear details and easy to understand. I will be using the instillation videos for support when setting up my chosen product.
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@yadoyado7167
3 жыл бұрын
Nice educational videos I'm training to be gas engineer I found this channel recently These are valuable information here 👍
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome !
@roberthuntley1090
2 жыл бұрын
I've been using Nest for the last 8 years, and its been pretty trouble free. Was easy to self-install as well. I'm just about to get Hive in a few weeks as a package deal with a new boiler, so will be interesting to compare the two. If nothing else, Hive will give me hot water control (my Nest Mark 2 doesn't do this). My main gripe with Nest is that the hysteresis margin is too high, so the temperature tends to bounce between too hot and too cold. Nest has a feature called 'True Radiant' which learns how quickly your house heats up, and adjusts the heating start and stop time to allow for it (taking account of outside weather etc.). This works really well for tuning the heating on, and it normally achieves the temperature and time required by my programme with only a few minutes error. Unfortunately, its pretty poor at deciding when to turn the heating off, so the still hot radiators often cause the temperature to overshoot. There have been complaints in the Nest forums about this, but no resolution. Any experience as to whether Hive is better in this respect?
@BlRaidX
2 жыл бұрын
Hive uses no opentherm. I have it and cant wait to go to nest. Hive lock the hub to your purchase so you can't even sell it when you give up on it. £40 per Hive TRVS. Whole system works but no opentherm means it just way overshoots or underheats. STICK WITH NEST!!
@roberthuntley1090
2 жыл бұрын
@@BlRaidX My boiler doesn't support opentherm so its a non-issue for me. Just for information, one thing I didn't like about Nest was the very wide temperature swing; the house used to oscillate between 'too hot' and 'too cold'. If you search on the Nest forums this issue has been raised many times, but the company hasn't addressed it (allegedly, because it improves boiler efficiency, and they have prioritised that). Arguably, Hive has a temperature band that is too narrow, I often find that the heating comes on for a few minutes and then cuts out again.
@BlRaidX
2 жыл бұрын
@@roberthuntley1090 Ah if doesnt support opentherm, Hive is flawless for you and cheaper. Nest unit you can resell. Catch in future is your hive hub cant be resold, they lock to user, so never buy a used unit. Using it is flawless for me, Im just chasing the extra few percent from opentherm no issue with hive itself. TRV's are expensive but they work well so long as you buy decent batteries, i use Enloop (Black heavy duty model) rechargables. As they hold charge and reliable for operating TRV over months. Without TRV's my temps was all over place, I think using Hive's TRVs they give more data for it to manage itself. Since installing them i noticed boiler was firing less but temps maintained.
@BLOCKsignallingUK
3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are very informative and show the depth of your knowledge. Thanks for taking the time to do them.
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@PaulGuiry
3 жыл бұрын
Great video, well thought out and presented, as usual. First came across your channel when I was installing a 2 zone nest for a friend to replace his 2 zone hive. (He was in the Google ecosphere, having the door bell, cameras, and the smoke alarms, so made sense for him to upgrade). I've inherited his old hives, but neither of his two were the single channel, no hot water ones, so winning your one would be great, and I do actually have 3 zones plus hot water. The other thing I've noticed about most of these smart stats is that most of them rely on time as opposed to temp to do a cylinder of hot water. So, in the summer, they have no idea what temp the water is in your cylinder, and the boiler could be cycling on and off like crazy I'm imagine? I like the functional look of the hive, and agree with you about the buttons, makes more sense. The use of touch screens has gone out of control. Look at most new cars, there's one where you have to open the glove box from the central touch screen! Only thing I'd like might be an always on display if there was the option to hook it up to a permanent supply. Opentherm on the nest is a waste of time I think. Most people unless its a one floor apartment will have 2 zones, and then opentherm won't work with nest (as far as I know?) Keep up the good work!
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the comment. On the hot water cylinder issue it will only happen (cycling) if you have it wired bypassing the thermostat on the cylinder which is not to the standard. If wired correctly the stat on the cylinder will turn the boiler off even if the programmer / stat is asking for the water to be on.
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
On the OT issue, you are correct, single zone only at the moment. It would be nice if google had a hub that controls the boielr and other nests connecting through the hub. That would allow OT multizone. There are some DIY solutions good people of the Internet are working on.
@PaulGuiry
3 жыл бұрын
@@UrbanPlumbers agreed, but most systems I see being upgraded have not even had wall stats, not to mind cylinder stats before. And because these smart systems don't have a solution, the cylinder coil and cylinder temp aren't controlled or monitored...
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
You are not supposed to wire a smart stat to a cylinder without its own stat. It would cycle on any set up. Cyl. Stat is a G3 and building regs requirement.
@PaulGuiry
3 жыл бұрын
@@UrbanPlumbers 👍
@WilbertHoe
2 жыл бұрын
Just the information I need to help me choose a smart thermostat for my home. Very well explained as with all your other videos. Thanks.
@abid31
3 жыл бұрын
Came across your video just as your titles says to compare the two systems, looks like I will go for the nest, many thanks for your advice
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
I prefer Nest myself but Hive will suit some people
@vizmortlock
2 жыл бұрын
Nice and informative video well and smoothly presented. The background info was very interesting. I have two hive systems in different properties, both were problematic . The latest one. Installed last week still won't work properly unless the original wall stat remains connected and is turned up to max. Pairing the devices was hit and miss and there were no steps to install with the equipment. I am not a pro by the way. The first system also gave wiring problems to the installers, but they were British Gas pros. That system lost the Internet for 2 months whilst I was away, so I couldn't control the heating. I remain unimpressed with Hive. When it works, happy days and I would still opt for an Internet based system. Finally, the newer system is a Hive Nano, so much less controllability at the room stat: most done on the app. I cannot find a way to increase frost protection temp which is set at 12 degrees. Most insurers stipulate an empty property must over winter have a heating system left on at 16 degrees to prevent bursts or freezing events.
@UrbanPlumbers
2 жыл бұрын
hive is rubish really and only an on/off stat. There are so many better options out there than Hive
@JayGasEssex
2 жыл бұрын
@@UrbanPlumbers Completely disagree, hive does what it says on the tin, wasn't designed to be an all singing, all dancing stat, that's the point! Most customers don't need or want all the other complicated options, just on/off, easy to understand schedule, frost protection, boost button's. That's basically all you need IMO. Plus you can self install.
@UrbanPlumbers
2 жыл бұрын
@@JayGasEssex if you do not care about efficiency then Hive is ok
@MattyJenky
3 жыл бұрын
I've been looking for a new smart thermostat and your videos have been super helpful! A shame I missed the competition but thank you for the help
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
Next time!
@shaxxie5237
2 жыл бұрын
Wow I leant many things from this video. Thank you :)
@UrbanPlumbers
2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome
@Jean-dx5hf
Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated video. A great help as have to replace the boiler and upgrade whole system. Many thanks.
@petr108
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, really help with what I looking for. Will be looking at the install videos too!
@uzziel2005
Жыл бұрын
I gave up with the Nest auto learning and presence detection. The auto learnign would do weird things, like set it to 20c, then 30 mins later to 22, then back to 20 again after an hour. It doesn't need to be that granular. Perhaps they've fixed it since i last used it though, it as some time back. The presence detection I don't use, I have Nest hooked up to HomeAssistant which seems much more reliable detecting if anyone is home or not. So When i'm away, it tells Nest I'm way too, and when I'm back, it tells Nest that I'm home.
@broadleyboy2
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video explanations and comparison of each product. I’ve watched
@christiandeity
2 ай бұрын
Very informative. Thanks for making a useful video.
@willsmith2910
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! really nice video, easy to follow and understand!
@mannypitman3786
3 жыл бұрын
I installed a nest using your help video. Seems like a good product so far but as you said the learning function is not for everyone! Great videos. Well done!
@peterfenna1870
2 жыл бұрын
Really well presented and explained clearly. I'm looking at installing one of these products myself, so the heads-up on the simplicity of the hive system installation and compatibility with my existing systems programmer had probably made my mind up... Thanks and look forward to more vids... Peter
@UrbanPlumbers
2 жыл бұрын
no worries, thanks for watching
@traversrudd4976
Жыл бұрын
Well I bought a nest and chose an ideal boiler so I could use opentherm, it’s a heat only though, with a pressurised cylinder, I wired it so I didn’t have to use batteries, the opentherm used the wireless connection, it worked for about a week before it wouldn’t anymore, reverted back to on/off I guess it didn’t like or got confused by hot water demand or demand from the regular thermostat for the underfloor heating, none of this was all that clear to me when I got it, I should have paid more attention to your videos at the time, I still would have chosen the nest though and am still happy with it
@johnridley1656
2 жыл бұрын
I only fit nest controls when people ask for them, over the past 5 years I recon I've fitted about 8 of them, on at least half of them I've had no end of extra time spent with the client because they can't work them, the menus are confusing, and take ages to set up and alter. I've also had clients that have have nest systems installed. And I've taken them out and fitted a simple 7 day timer and stat system, that is easy to understand.
@chadschafer1723
Жыл бұрын
Hvac contractor here. Customers love nest, service guys hate them
@adriatikqypi9356
3 жыл бұрын
Great video matey, I am a heating Engeener my self, but I always learn from the best (you). Thank you for the useful information.
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
And now you get a chance to get a free Hive too!
@TimHodgesofEdinburgh
Жыл бұрын
I’ve had Nest for years. Happy with the thermostat but wish the app was better. I don’t use the self learning mode but do my own schedule. The User interface in the app for changing the schedule is poor and requires perfect eyesight or finding my glasses every time I need to change it. You get a history of how long your boiler was providing central heating but only for 10 days and no record of hot water heating which can vary if you have solar. Often wondered if I’d have been better with hive but based on this video I’m still glad I went with Nest
@KilkennyLights
Жыл бұрын
Great review.Thanks Frank. Open Therm makes the nest the winner.
@Umski
Жыл бұрын
I think I'd be happy be with a Hive, I prefer not to let an algorithm control my heating ;) I find it amusing you gave away the 'not so good' one :D
@davidbrodowski8379
3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree with this review, I also have a Nest 3rd generation.
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@devgohil6387
Жыл бұрын
Very Informative, helpful and detailed video - just like all your other videos. Thanks
@mattygeepph4115
2 жыл бұрын
Top job on the video bud very informative on the comparison of both products im using nest at the moment and find it very user friendly aswell as compatability on other systems when installing yes the wiring terminals are a bit tricky but overall good 👍😎😍💯😎👍😎
@dmhor7389
Жыл бұрын
An interesting comparison. I have an Intergas combi boiler with their own Comfort Touch Gateway hub to link the boiler to their app and also a Honeywell Single Zone thermostat, separately linked to the boiler. The boiler is great but the Gateway and the app are not the best bit of IT and tech around. I’m looking at installing new smart TRV’s on all my radiators and was considering both Nest and Hive as the alternatives. This has gone a long way to helping me decide as Intergas are OpenTherm compatible. Thank you so much for this video - it’s come as an unexpected bonus!
@v18leo
2 жыл бұрын
I work for the biggest central heating supplier in Australia we sell about 3k uk version nests a year and the heat link failing is a big issue with these units, failure rate now is about 7% the manufacturer is well aware that this is an issue
@UrbanPlumbers
2 жыл бұрын
you still want Nest over Hive. Google is very good at replacing faulty units with no questions asked.
@jorkirasalas2726
2 жыл бұрын
But how do you contact Google? There doesn’t seem to be a UK contact.
@johnlawrence9066
2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your videos . Work quality is fantastic and meticulous . Keep making the videos .
@UrbanPlumbers
2 жыл бұрын
I will. Promise. Thank you for watching.
@NicholasWasyliw
Жыл бұрын
good stuff,....good compare at a understandable level for normal people.......
@legomanx51v
3 жыл бұрын
Great review, really well explained. I’ve watched all your Nest and Hive install videos, learned so much about how my home is wired and plumbed! Would feel confident to install either the Nest or Hive now
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
Great!
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3 жыл бұрын
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3 жыл бұрын
@Jeffrey Zakai Instablaster ;)
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3 жыл бұрын
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3 жыл бұрын
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@benholness
3 жыл бұрын
Cheers for the review on both. Very well explained and went into great detail.
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@timhancock6626
3 жыл бұрын
A Center Brand programmable stat at £50 will save you more money than either. For Open Therm on combis some of the boiler manufacturers own "plug in" solutions are pretty good now
@fromtheflat
Жыл бұрын
Great comparison to help me decide what to buy 👍
@JosephDoherty-v4i
9 ай бұрын
I would remind everyone that the nest only supports standard boilers with open therm. Considering combi and system boilers are more popular,this is a big deal. I had seen hive offering some upgrade that offered load compensation or sounded like it.
@jameswildsmith7204
2 жыл бұрын
All aspects covered by clear explanations.
@UrbanPlumbers
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@shivasunil
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison video. very clear overview on both the products.
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I am glad you liked it.
@shivasunil
3 жыл бұрын
@@UrbanPlumbers I am about to buy a Google nest. That's the reason I was watching some review videos. I like yours 👍
@julianporter5
Жыл бұрын
How nice to have some realism on what you might save.
@geoffwhalley9988
10 ай бұрын
Thanks. A very useful comparison 🎉
@richwaight
2 жыл бұрын
Great review! Super interesting and thoughtful
@Brown969
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. Loved catching up with your channel. Had a Hive in my last house and it worked well for me, so would be happy to win one for my new home!! Keep up the good work.
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
Ok, you are in :)
@BohumilIzak
3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. I am considering Nest to replace EPH As it is so unreliable and limited functionality. Had also Hive, however it was constantly going off line. Thanks for in depth comparison.
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Hive can have problems with wireless range as it is battery powered
@emadarmanious9858
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another very informative video with in depth knowledge and comparison
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
Yuh are welcome mate !
@paulgriffin7049
11 ай бұрын
I'm considering installing one of these. The overwhelming reason for favouring Hive is that we have a large house and only Hive seems to have range extenders
@tiger2666
Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you so much for sharing as its very detailed and great help to choose. 👌
@muhammed6758
3 жыл бұрын
A great level of detail in the comparison. Great video 👍🏼
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@MrGeeyess
Жыл бұрын
I think I would prefer the Hive. It seems a lot less complicated to use.
@greenj1m
3 жыл бұрын
Great video comparing both products, thanks.
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@TonyDelMonte
3 жыл бұрын
Very thorough and clear review. Thanks!
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@mantric3067
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, very informative and well structured. Big thumbs up
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@muhatasimalam8698
Жыл бұрын
Nest, you need always online internet connection to turn on and off your boiler. Once the internet was down and I couldn’t turn the heating off, I had to manually turn the boiler off. Then you have the heat link connecting the device to the boiler which can stop working for no reason what so ever. If you ask me our old Honeywell thermostat was way better because it would always work. Just like our old doorbell.
@blueford1974
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing what you do and sharing your knowledge on here 👍
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome !
@ralphgow2728
3 жыл бұрын
Good video, it has helped me make my mind up on the one to get. Cheers.
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
Nice one!
@EmpireofKyro
3 жыл бұрын
As always, really enjoy watching your videos. Cant wait for the next one. Would like to see some more bathroom transformation ones.👍
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
Bathroom coming next - special one, my own. Should be up in next 10 days.
@EmpireofKyro
3 жыл бұрын
@@UrbanPlumbers Looking forward to it
@UrbanPlumbers
3 жыл бұрын
I am half way through the edit now. Should be done by next weekend.
@yosephgeorgiou4369
Жыл бұрын
Hive recommends up to 4 zones not three and as a breakdown engineer most of my calls for nest would be that the heating and hot water would would not work bcoz the app would think the tenant was not home even when they was so nothing would work I would pick hive over nest anyday
@Land-of-reason
Жыл бұрын
Nonsence it is super easy to set up the home/away feature on the NEST app. Hive is Stone Age and needs batteries.
@jethrohealy3277
Жыл бұрын
Hives are backwards compared to Nest and the Hive is terrible to set up. Hives only advantage is that it is a bit easier to wire.
@jethrohealy3277
Жыл бұрын
Nest overall is in my opinion definitely the best. Nest just needs to upsize the terminals. I actually use Wago connectors to make it easier to add the common links from L to 2 & 5 because the terminals are a bit small for more than 1 conductor.
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