Seeing interactions like this gives me faith, seed's been planted. Awesome convo and outreach!
@Rhys414
4 ай бұрын
Intelligent & inquisitive young man. Much respect for him for having a civil and honest discussion.
@__Ganyasattva__
3 ай бұрын
Mind control programming, Humanity is brainwashed and most people's spirit-soul is extremely weak. Care, love and compassion is strength and discernment and discipline is power and violence is opression is weakness. The struggle within the mind to free itself, that light from the dark walls of ignorance and stupidity. Everything must be turned upside or flushed down the drain but the huge problem is shit sticks to the toilet bowl, not piss. Piss on the parade but that shit or filth is all the mind control clinging to the asshole that is humanity. Its obvious why the world is a prison planet and its obvious why theres so much unnecessary death and suffering. We could be free, we could all be prosperous, we could all be happy, wealthy, and free but instead in his ignorance humanity will always choose the easy and the the hard road to the final decision. Unfortunately their not truly smart enough to make that decision on their own because they do care to much about those things that have been put into society as a distraction for mind control such as sports, entertainment, television, and so on. You minimize those things and people begin to use higher consciousness and awareness, self awareness and take time to reflect. The young man is 100% right about jobs, slavery and chattle slavery as slaves to the 9-5 work week. Slaves to families, friends, relationships, objects and most of all slaves to their own selves because their minds have been conquered, conditioned, programmed and their hearts left silent. P
@MSV19801
Ай бұрын
How intelligent can someone be when they do not accept evolution?
@catherinehoy5548
4 ай бұрын
92.2 billion land animals every year killed for food... not including those mothers whose bodies are being exploited, not including aquatic animals. That's a lot of animals that need food and fresh water, whose waste needs to be dealt with ...
@jintymcginty1469
4 ай бұрын
awww no so terrible, go cry about it you fairy 😂 everybody is going to die and the world will cease to exist, get the fck used to it
@someguy2135
3 ай бұрын
I agree. Besides that despite declining birth rates the global population will continue to grow. We have to be able to use our resources more efficiently and deal with climate change Etc
@happycarnivore..
3 ай бұрын
Crop deaths?
@happycarnivore..
3 ай бұрын
But the bugz?
@someguy2135
3 ай бұрын
@@happycarnivore.. Ending animal agriculture and only growing crops for humans to eat directly would result in a lot fewer bug and other crop deaths. Feeding crops to farm animals so that we could eat parts of them is incredibly inefficient. The University of Minnesota did a study that showed that we could feed 4 billion more people that way.
@curtis_abc
4 ай бұрын
Let's hope he goes vegan, and his girlfriend, too! He seems quite open to it 💪🌱
@TheArbiterOfTruth
4 ай бұрын
I hope not. I’d like him to live a long, healthy life.
@curtis_abc
4 ай бұрын
@@TheArbiterOfTruth How is that in conflict with being vegan? A vegan diet can be perfectly healthy!
@TheArbiterOfTruth
4 ай бұрын
@@curtis_abc it’s very difficult to be healthy as a vegan. You have to take additional supplements to get the nutrients you don’t get from your diet, protein is very scarce and not bioavailable, so working out is difficult. It’s very hard to avoid soy, the issues go on.
@curtis_abc
4 ай бұрын
@@TheArbiterOfTruth I've been vegan for nearly 9 years and I only supplement vitamin B12 (which many flesh eaters are deficient in too, anyway), never had any problem with protein, this is a big myth, there are many people who do sports, even professionally as vegans. I also don't see why would you want to avoid soy? The issues you mention are either myths or easily solvable. It's really not necessary to exploit other sentient beings to thrive.
@TheArbiterOfTruth
4 ай бұрын
@@curtis_abc wonderful, an anecdote. Unfortunately, not everyone can eat the same kind of diet. Many people cannot eat plants at all as they are toxic. Soy is terrible for humans, mostly men. That’s not a myth. Plant protein is not as bioavailable as animal protein. Animals are here for our use.
@andermeep4007
4 ай бұрын
dude said "im not that smart", dude you clearly are, talk positive about yourself please.
@Plixion
4 ай бұрын
Many people still are misinformed about plant nutrition or haven't seen much footages about husbandry and slaughterhouses. Some people just need these basic informations to be aware and become vegan. Spread the message, be vegan and do / support activism.
@benmrgamw681
4 ай бұрын
How about some basic information on the basics of nutrition... Humans thrive off of a healthy diet with meat, fish, animal products and low-moderate carbs.. not a vegan diet hence why there isn't a single study on earth showing a vegan diet better than a vegetarian diet let alone a healthy diet with meat 😂 you need to educate yourself on your poor diet.
@GarudaLegends
4 ай бұрын
The vegans diet is deficient and meat eaters live vasly longer than vegans. That is the truth. This is why I will never go vegan. The diet is too unhealthy.
@BasauriFury
4 ай бұрын
@@benmrgamw681its actually the contrary dkdkkdkd
@Unmasking_Viandalisme
4 ай бұрын
Yooziz so.o.o V naive. The developed world is being dismantled & V is a part of such. Sorry gurl but a V world ain't gonna happen.. unless you mean starvation.
@vegan-rising
4 ай бұрын
@@benmrgamw681 the founder of "Vegan" was a woodworker and plant-based for 55 years. he lived until 95 years old. he thrived and that was before we had all these other options. there are many instances of vegans living long healthy lives thriving on a whole foods plant-based diet. stop being ignorant, stop making excuses.
@libertadvalerio870
4 ай бұрын
Great conversation. Its nice to see there are people who are willing to have open conversations with vegans. It takes courage.
@zantecarroll4448
4 ай бұрын
he learnt to desensitize himself by being forced to kill his pets ..its a moral injury to children as well as the killed animals
@goozfrabah579
3 ай бұрын
It's natural
@zantecarroll4448
3 ай бұрын
@@goozfrabah579 so is rape and murder and slavery and fried food ..doesn't make it moral or a good idea
@goozfrabah579
3 ай бұрын
@@zantecarroll4448 oh brother 🙄
@zantecarroll4448
3 ай бұрын
@@goozfrabah579 oh brother advocating for not cutting other animals bodies into little pieces and instead finding our sources of protein from plants is just extreme and crazy ..i know! what you have to put up with these days jeez louise
@goozfrabah579
3 ай бұрын
@@zantecarroll4448 no I have a medical condition because of plants and all I can absorb is meat so go ahead and be a vegan more meat for me there's nothing wrong with eating meat. We absolutely need it for a health. Get over yourself.
@leonardoterzani9639
4 ай бұрын
Thank you Joey for raising awareness ❤
@NicholasLeighton-eq3yg
4 ай бұрын
Good job ❤ vegan forever
@mandy5478
4 ай бұрын
Keep planting those seeds! Well done!! xo
@CalBorst
4 ай бұрын
Joey's the man. He's no bs approach is what all ethical vegans need when debating non-vegans. Great job Joey.
@שירזמערבי-כ4י
4 ай бұрын
Amazing work!!!! You are amazing!
@BR9900-w5l
3 ай бұрын
What work??
@Patrick-d1j8f
4 ай бұрын
Mate your smart enough to sit and talk with respect and desire to equally listen .. You're already smarter than most 🙂
@lolarowell-adamson339
4 ай бұрын
Well done Joey, he seems enlightened. I do hope he succeeds as he did know you were 100% on the true train and he is now invited to climb on board….ignore the excuses and climb on board 😊
@peace_in_the_now
4 ай бұрын
yea, at the beginning of the convo it was clear to me that his basic worldview is already really clear, he sees life as equals and just roaming the spacerock, so all it needs is another clearsighted person that supports him to 'click'
@AMileWithKyle
4 ай бұрын
Good convo for sure
@anboogaerts
4 ай бұрын
Thank you Joey! Keep up the great work 🌱🐾💚
@mcc5295
4 ай бұрын
Much love ❤❤
@nasiatsekouras170
4 ай бұрын
SO SICK of hearing “we at the top of the food chain” What a STUPID thing to say! Obviously we weren’t ever part of the food chain. How do lions get the flesh of other animals? How do humans? Can’t thank you enough Joey for all the brave, precious work you do 🙏🏼🙏🏼🧡🧡🧡🧡
@Burner_269
4 ай бұрын
@@DesertWalker-zf7eb Even if we were, we are not now, so it is a non argument.
@ArthurDraper123
4 ай бұрын
Of course we are twit- we are secondary consumers . Follow along with Mr Draper.....PLANTS>>BEES>>HUMANS (-vegan twits who have hopefully opted out of the gene pool) @@Burner_269
@ArthurDraper123
4 ай бұрын
@@Burner_269although from an ecological aspect we could be considered as an apex predator due to our awesome thumbs and guns and stuff. However- veganism doesnt concern itself with ecology as its primary focus is the "feelings" of Daisy the moo-cow, and by extension, the unwarranted feelings of smug self satisfaction of oat milk latte enthusiasts.. What an absolute plonker
@nasiatsekouras170
3 ай бұрын
@@DesertWalker-zf7eb Never.
@Burner_269
3 ай бұрын
@@DesertWalker-zf7eb Sure biologically we are the same, omnivores, meaning we can be healthy eating plants alone and eating plants and animals, thankfully we have the ability, the moral agency and the resources to do the former which means we have no moral justification to do the latter.
@jgoodwin977
4 ай бұрын
He bottled it! Sad he had that childhood trauma
@DemonDestroyer7
4 ай бұрын
Great work as per usual Joe
@elizabethmadness5277
3 ай бұрын
He is open minded and empathetic and he knows that seeing it will change him forever 💫💚🌱🌿
@kaleighandrews7538
4 ай бұрын
There is One thing that pisses me off so much about some of the people that Joey talks to and that’s when they just keep talking while he’s talking have some freaking respect and let him talk. He let you talk without interrupting you, so let him talk without interrupting him, and your girlfriend, being a pescatarian is just as worse as eating animals on land, because fish absorb so much more chemicals from the ocean or if they’re factory farm, they spray them with formaldehyde hydrogen peroxide. They put antibiotics in the water, and then just natural decay and disease. Like that’s far worse than eating animals but they’re both horrific, so where do you keep talking dude let Joey finish what he’s saying.
@BR9900-w5l
3 ай бұрын
Bwahaaaaaaa coming from a vegan who throws a. Hissy fit when people don't want to do what you want 😅😅😅
@kaleighandrews7538
3 ай бұрын
@@BR9900-w5l When did I throw a hissy fit and I didn’t know it was OK to be OK with the unaliving of innocent baby animals and the fact you think that it’s a OK to brag about that and think it’s a flex that’s a sickening thought process. Oh no that you’re having a hissy fit about vegans saying can you please stop eating animals eat plants because they’re far more healthier for you and you don’t have to corrupt your morals or your ethics, so why don’t you get a grip and stop being a troll on vegan posts and vegan channels. bye
@mkmstillstackin
3 ай бұрын
Love this discussion, Joey. Keep up the great work!
@meeeeze
4 ай бұрын
Hey Joey, I think you should reconsider your stance when it comes to bugs. Bugs are individuals just like animals, they have experiences, make decisions, and run for their life when there is danger. Please open your mind to considering bugs as much as you consider animals 🙏
@rashikkar7359
4 ай бұрын
Bugs are actually animals.
@COLDCHEMICALpresents
4 ай бұрын
I don't think he's saying that bugs don't matter, just that in a situation where you have to choose one or the other, animals like cows and chickens are more important. That's not a justification for harming bugs when you don't have to, of course.
@amero3577
3 ай бұрын
@@COLDCHEMICALpresents woah woah woah there buddy! I thought land animals are equal to humans 1:1? You're telling me ants aren't as important as humans or animals? Green snowflake 4life!!!
@barbarafurman6391
4 ай бұрын
❤❤ from Vienna ❤❤
@kaijuvegan
4 ай бұрын
We need more people like this guy who are smart, curious, and open to exploring new ideas. Seems like a decent guy. Maybe one day it'll click. 💚
@saketsrivatsa5143
2 ай бұрын
They are animals not humans
@Veganlife100
4 ай бұрын
Joey! 💚
@Jasonzx848
4 ай бұрын
🐷😊
@kaleighandrews7538
4 ай бұрын
That’s such a load of crap. You didn’t have to kill animals and do all that stuff to them when you could’ve just as easily found arable land, or made the land arable by using the feces of the animals that you had to grow crop, which is far more healthier for you and you didn’t have to do all those horrific things to those animals. I’m tired of hearing people say they had to do this because of where they came from I watch documentaries specifically one about seeds of some kind I think it was I can’t remember the specific seed, but I’ll have to look it up again, but there are people who are doing this; teaching other countries who are considered Third World countries where to raise crops and showing them how to do it. Using the water for crops instead of giving those resources to animals. to then go and have those animals killed for no reason, there’s no excuse to say I had to do this, no, you didn’t that’s like saying I had to kill that person because it was a matter of life and death now unless you’re actually being threatened with death yourself you have another choice and that’s not to do it at all not to kill them not to kill yourself so this whole I had to harm these innocent little baby animals because that’s how we had to eat is absolutely atrocious. you can eat plants , and you could’ve grown crops to eat yourself because what are those animals eating? Obviously you have arable land somewhere stop saying that you had to do that when you didn’t have to do that.
@davidwatson1888
2 ай бұрын
Just wanted to say Thank you Joey for continuing to help the world for a better change! ❤
@therealgoki
3 ай бұрын
Man should be proud of himself for being open-minded and intellectually engaged.
@dodododo1761
3 ай бұрын
What about openminded vegans?
@Lorenzo_That_Vegan_Dad
4 ай бұрын
Here before all the bots and trolls.
@benmrgamw681
4 ай бұрын
Edit: to the 🤡 vegans claiming healthy, come back when you've reached well over 100 like a number of smokers, your small stints with your unhealthy diet isn't impressive, I've seen kids raised on happy meals and biscuits. You mean the people that tell you that meat is a superior food source? Vegan children are shorter and have lower bone mineral content. A high soy/legume/seed/bean diet is not only unhealthy but also super harmful in so many ways due to the super high levels of toxic metals like lead and cadmium, anti nutrients that block full absorption of protein, zinc, iron, calcium, B12, etc as well as it being a weaker source of all of these. A vegan diet is also either a super high carb diet which easily leads to cardio vascular disease or full of synthetic supplements which can never replace food and is bad for children. These facts and so many more prove meat is king and forever 😁
@Lorenzo_That_Vegan_Dad
4 ай бұрын
@@benmrgamw681 Carbs are life. Take a basic biology class. You're either severely misinformed or wilfully ignorant. Either way, I don't have time for the likes of you.(after this reply, of course)
@martinfernandez882
4 ай бұрын
@@benmrgamw681 continue spewing your unscientific garbo that totally contradicts the science and data. that was one cross sectional study that didn't optimize diets AT ALL. Peep the linked study below, showing that what you're proud of is pumping your kids with growth hormone so they grow a bit more quickly - but vegetarian kids are actually associated with ending up TALLER than meat eating kids, not shorter, taller, learn to read somethin. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1855500/
@Anon-box
4 ай бұрын
@@benmrgamw681 please provide your sources :)
@HuckleberryHim
4 ай бұрын
@@benmrgamw681 Hey, I've been vegan nearly a decade and vegetarian over half my life, including through puberty. I have 0 deficiencies, 0 health issues, am in supreme physical and cognitive health, have never broken a bone despite bad accidents, and obviously have no signs of CVD or anything close (as the vast majority of high-carb eaters experience...). I'm also 5'11", which is above average in the US (about top 15-20%). I intermittently supplement B12, and nothing else. I'm wondering when I should be expecting these made-up tiktok side effects to hit me, or whether you've just had a cholesterol-heavy meal and are having problems with cerebral circulation?
@ValeriaRossellini
4 ай бұрын
Be Vegan for the animals 💗💗💗
@ArthurDraper123
4 ай бұрын
Which anymaylz should I be vegan for? All of them , or just those you deem worthy of saving?
@ValeriaRossellini
4 ай бұрын
@@bugsthompson 😏😏
@ArthurDraper123
4 ай бұрын
@@bugsthompson Seethe Mimsy....rage and seethe 🤣🤣🤣
@ArthurDraper123
4 ай бұрын
Which timezones would they be Mimsy? Say Mimsy- have you tried punching a kitten in the face as a form of rage therapy? At this point I would consider all options as you're about to go postal 😅😅😅@@bugsthompson
@ArthurDraper123
4 ай бұрын
@@bugsthompson Mimsy- your empty little head is about to pop off. Find a Mr Snuggles Jr and get to swinging ASAP.🤣🤣🤣
@markoszouganelis5755
4 ай бұрын
Joey you really do a great work! Bravo!
@Jasonzx848
3 ай бұрын
👍
@user-cw2pb9zf8j
4 ай бұрын
How do I become such a good communicator as Joey? All facts
@lauratanln
3 ай бұрын
By watching all his videos. Once prepared with facts and all possible excuses, your confidence grows as well. But t I can never be as articulate as Joey.
@DEBO5
3 ай бұрын
I wonder where he draws the line. Does he care about insects as much as he does birds?
@mercyoliverio4777
Ай бұрын
If we feel bad for the suffering of anime characters or actor in film. Then it is easier to feel bad for the animals.
@kaleighandrews7538
4 ай бұрын
Stop calling us vegetarian’s we’re not vegetarian’s. We’re vegan they’re completely different.
@Chew81
4 ай бұрын
Of course. Vegans are just vegetarian twats.
@Chew81
4 ай бұрын
Of course. Vegans are vegetarian twats. By the way, do not apostrophise. I didn't realise that vegans are also unlettered.
@Vegan4Life_
3 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@sethhoyt2202
4 ай бұрын
Would it be OK to force people to see what animals go through?
@SurTrailDoesAll
4 ай бұрын
I disagree with Joey here. I don’t kill anything. I don’t kill bugs either. I catch roaches and put them back outside. I don’t take anyone’s life away. I try to find a mutual compromise.
@Poe_hi
3 ай бұрын
Why dont Vegans talk about how plants feel plants screem when stressed and they communicate with each other
@Burner_269
3 ай бұрын
Obviously you are joking about the “plants" thing, because no intellectually honest adult would actually suggest that there is a moral equivalence. So, do you have any actual “arguments” against veganism?
@Poe_hi
3 ай бұрын
@Burner_269 plants are alive and grow and pass down information to their Young, they make noises when stressed and much more. vegans are fake, if they really care about living beings, they wouldn't use a phone cause these are products of slavery
@Poe_hi
3 ай бұрын
@Burner_269 plants grow breath communicate with each other and emit sounds when stressed that we can't hear. Plus all vegans have phones that are brought to us by slavery so to be a true vegan u should sit on a rock and starve.
@Burner_269
3 ай бұрын
@@Poe_hi Sentience is the qualifier for moral consideration, plants are not sentient, they are biological machines that react to stimuli. On the other hand the animals you kill and eat are very much conscious, thinking, feeling individuals, very similar to us in all the ways that count. And their deaths are 100% unnecessary, how do you morally attempt to “justify” that when you could just have a tomato sandwich ? Are you saying that because vegans may or may not once every 10 years purchase a piece of technology that might or might not have a component that that could have perhaps have been produced by people in poor working conditions you are “justified” in the direct support of the breeding, exploitation, use, abuse, mutilation and killing of countless thinking, feeling beings three times a day? Does that make any sense to you? This is an example of fallacious reasoning, whataboutism or tu quoque. Veganism’s primary focus is on animal rights. So, how do you personally attempt to morally “justify” supporting or your direct involvement in the breeding, exploitation, mutilation, abuse and killing, taking all they are or could ever be, that is required to provide you with animal “products” that you do not need?
@Poe_hi
3 ай бұрын
@Burner_269 no question about it. Every cell phone has cobalt, and that come from slaves in cobolt mines. When u buy meat its for eating not just for entertainment like a phone vegans are hypocrites. to even grow plants you have to kill animals all the ground nesting birds and rodents if not killed displaced not to mention the bugs plus the chemicals used. To be a true vegan you should sit on a rock and starve
@saszablaze1
3 ай бұрын
these folks got such unintelligent arguments; he was however an actually open-minded brer!! basic instinct IS to be healthy. we so detached from our instincts we thinking eating cooked foods, eating flesh, dairy, is HEALTHY. when it's NOT. we ARENT on top of the food chain. we are in dominion; which involves custodianship. our families, our ancestors survived on flesh; there should be no shame about that. but WE DON'T NEED IT. if it's an emergency i eat flesh. i'm mostly raw vegan. i choose eating dumpster dived or stolen duck wraps instead of lentils and rice which strip my body of nutrients and give me indigestion for a few days, i won't pay for it. that's if i can't borrow money to eat healthy food meant for our bodies. our ancestors got here, and now we need to grow up and we are surrounded by abundance, and we can get healthy from our natural plantfood diet. we don't need high protein foods, we need a variety of raw plantfoods "you have to supplement b12" - BRO, NO YOU DONT!!! Microbiome CREATES b12!! it's not a dietary micronutrient!! neither is "Vitamin" D; which is a hormone; there is no supplementation needed on a HEALTHY whole foods mostly raw vegan diet. we got choices. flesh eating is only justifiable when we ain't got choices. you ONLY need to develop empathy , if you grew up in a family, a community a culture that had none.
@PTruth-md6xx
4 ай бұрын
You should have played the footage.
@TerryMis
3 ай бұрын
I'm never becoming vegan... but I don't really care because when we eat that yummy cow, a bear might eat me then the bear might die, and help a plant the cow eat the plant I eat the cow and again!.
@SurTrailDoesAll
4 ай бұрын
Who yeah he was use to killing animals. So yeah he sees them as objects. Killing became normal. See he was taught to murder. And see them as less than.
@Lorenzo_That_Vegan_Dad
4 ай бұрын
Evolution is a scientific fact. This guy talks semi-sense. He definitely has the potential to become vegan soon. We also have anatomical similarities with animals. Evolution explains our history as animals on this planet. Non-human animals are people in non-human bodies. Humans are animals. If humans are people, so are non-human animals. Freedom for all! Cat lovers don't eat cats. Dog lovers don't eat dogs. Animal lovers don't eat animals.
@bobhill4364
4 ай бұрын
Evolution is a scientific theory. Once you say something is fact and can no longer be challenged, that is no longer science.
@Plixion
4 ай бұрын
You also don't have to be an animal lover to stop abusing and killing them. Respecting their rights to live free from harm is enough.
@Lorenzo_That_Vegan_Dad
4 ай бұрын
@@bobhill4364 A theory in the science community is a fact not a hypothesis. "In science, a fact is an observation that's been confirmed so many times that scientists can, for all intents and purposes, accept it as "true." But everything in science comes with a level of uncertainty, so nothing is ever scientifically "true" beyond a shadow of a doubt." Science is a method that leads to facts, Science in itself isn't a fact.
@Lorenzo_That_Vegan_Dad
4 ай бұрын
@@Plixion I agree with that. I only typically say that because most claim to love animals.
@bobhill4364
4 ай бұрын
@@Lorenzo_That_Vegan_Dad So a fact is something that scientists are pretty sure is correct. Most people view the word fact to mean certain. So we agree that evolution isn't certain.
@zantecarroll4448
4 ай бұрын
i lived with a mobile forager tribe in the borneo rainforest where its harder to find as larger variety of plant foods that have as easily available sources of certain macro nutrients than in the lowlands but not impossible, the eastern Penan hunt but it is a very small percentage of their food and men gather most of the food they provide for their families and women also hunt to a lesser degree so this whole 'men are masculine because they hunt animals for their families' is just a myth utilized by corporations , individuals and politicians for their own interests and greed..the eastern penan believe animal agriculture..to put animals in captivity and 'feed them with one hand and cut their throats with the other ' is as they call it black hearted because it is a deep betrayal of the animals trust and it is dis honorable because the animal is defenseless ..given the opportunity to have plenty of vegetable legumes and starches and fruit in out diets we have no excuse to cause other sentient beings pain and suffering
@jemeson5332
4 ай бұрын
What kind of necklace is the dude on the left, (carnivore) wearing? the whtie colored necklace with various shapes.
@andrewmartin3533
2 ай бұрын
Converted from vegetarian to vegan recently, I am a founding member of a church and have had this argument with my pastor. The video were you confront catholic church, a lady said we have dominion over... In Hebrew this word translation is caretakers. Jesus was an essen, three rules, respect for our planet, animals and other people. Jeremiah 7:22 states God never said to sacrifice animals, the people hired to correct the bible to fit their agenda, emperor Constantine missed that bit.
@writerchik44
4 ай бұрын
👏👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@jonjonwp
4 ай бұрын
He may be intelligent but he needs to button up, he talks too much.
@minV5326
2 ай бұрын
But can he even stop talking for one second man
@tnt1066uk
3 ай бұрын
carbstrong livein off back of these vids loads of money 300.500 pds a vid how much of that money he give back not a cent all 4 his pocket
@chelleec23
4 ай бұрын
That guy likes to hear himself talk. Get to the pooiinnttttttt
@AngelJamieJules
4 ай бұрын
Travis Scott truly going sicko mode during this debate
@billwalton4571
3 ай бұрын
GIVE UP!
@Burner_269
3 ай бұрын
Hey Bill, have you watched Dominion 2018 and repented yet? And are women made in god’s image?
@billwalton4571
3 ай бұрын
@@Burner_269 🤡🤡🤡
@Burner_269
3 ай бұрын
@@billwalton4571 Very mature, William, what would you god think? Not really an answer to my questions though, eh. So, have you watched Dominion 2018 and repented yet? And are women made in god’s image?
@billwalton4571
2 ай бұрын
@@Burner_269 I repent everyday but not for eating animals. And I would class women as in the image of God but the female version. God is male.
@Burner_269
2 ай бұрын
@@billwalton4571 But if god is male then surely his image is male? Or does he change his image? Or are women not made in his image? Or is there a female god somewhere? If they were made in HIS image they wouldn't be women because HIS image is male so they would be male. Where are you up to in Dominion? Have you seen the male baby chicks being ground up alive for your eggs yet?
@Patrick-d1j8f
4 ай бұрын
Everyone has a worldview even if they don't acknowledge it consciously He say's he doesn't believe in either atheistic or theistic creationism yet instantly references cave man, (Darwinism) etc and considers that as the reason in his thinking of historical beliefs 🤷♂️
@mcc5295
4 ай бұрын
Comment for algo ❤❤
@May-om7ck
2 ай бұрын
2024 Theres millions of vegans who went vegan more than 30 years ago.Do your research clean your colon
@Gary-vk6yr
3 ай бұрын
Grow up little joey
@Mark_Wheeler
3 ай бұрын
Joey, you interupted this guy way too much. He's obviously very intelligent, and I wanted to hear what he had to say.
@dafukk
3 ай бұрын
He made his points and started rambling, thank god he interrupted him...
@mrdavester
4 ай бұрын
It's a poor argument to claim "lettuce" for example, has x amount of protein.. that does nothing to say whether it's human bio-available or not. I'm going with a no..
@noobtrader3026
3 ай бұрын
I understand the agenda but meat eating is our way of life for thousands of years from our ancestors. It will never be stopped no matter what you do. Unless we stop populating. Hard fact for you.
@Burner_269
3 ай бұрын
And for much of that time it was in survival situations, that is not the case now for the vast majority of humanity. We have murdered, enslaved and done many other terrible things to each other since the dawn of time. Does that make any of that ethical? So, do you think we should use the longevity of an action to justify continuing it? Should we just keep doing it because we have always done it or should we strive to better ourselves,our society and the way we treat the other beings we share this planet with?
@meliora99
3 ай бұрын
so why don't you cannibalise?
@a_baby19
4 ай бұрын
Can I get a hiiii ❤ 1st 💚 🌱
@a_baby19
4 ай бұрын
@human_hyperbole what? General politeness. My condolences to you if someone you look up to saying hi doesn’t bring you happiness…
@SayedEyad
4 ай бұрын
Hey🌱💚
@michaelh.4979
4 ай бұрын
@Sherlockholmes326
3 ай бұрын
What’s wrong in eating steaks
@Burner_269
3 ай бұрын
There is nothing technically “wrong”with eating flesh except for the offence to common decency.The physical act of eating animal “products” is not in itself unethical, however it is revolting, nauseating, repugnant and totally unnecessary What categorically and factually is morally wrong, though, is the way the flesh and secretions are procured and the process of the production of them.
@Sherlockholmes326
3 ай бұрын
@@Burner_269 good point. I agree to that
@Burner_269
3 ай бұрын
@@Sherlockholmes326 So, by extension of your purchases you are absolutely breeding, exploiting, abusing, and killing animals. The common analogy is a hit man. If you, the non vegans, were not paying for their body parts and secretions they would not be being exploited, abused, used, mutilated and killed. It is entirely because of you and the other non vegans that this is being done to those other sentient beings. Through your demand you are supplied and everything that is done to them you are culpable for.
@ArthurDraper123
3 ай бұрын
@@Burner_269LMFAO
@redbriarn6295
4 ай бұрын
Is very food cruelty free?
@Burner_269
4 ай бұрын
Well Brian, at least you are changing things up.
@redbriarn6295
4 ай бұрын
@WinstonPith just checking
@redbriarn6295
4 ай бұрын
Very gets more attention… but not deleted
@jintymcginty1469
4 ай бұрын
All these vegan channels always delete or dont allow comments 😂😂😂😂😂 so funny - I wonder why lmao
@Burner_269
4 ай бұрын
You mean like this comment?
@jintymcginty1469
4 ай бұрын
@@Burner_269 😂😂, go eat a carrot 🥕 🐇
@Burner_269
4 ай бұрын
@@jintymcginty1469 Ummmm, still here then?
@jintymcginty1469
4 ай бұрын
@@Burner_269 I have 9 steaks in my fridge
@Burner_269
4 ай бұрын
Still here, eh? The bad old vegans haven't deleted your scorching assault on our philosophy? Lucky you didn’t have more so you didn't have to take off your shoes.
@KinGDesertEagle00
4 ай бұрын
I just ate a banging steak. Cow is my favorite animal. What's yours?
@ArthurDraper123
4 ай бұрын
Its a toss up between ex-cows and ex-piggies for me...
@KinGDesertEagle00
4 ай бұрын
That burger I just had for lunch was fire🔥 I wish I could have shared it with yall❤️❤️❤️
@thekrazyasian
4 ай бұрын
I support veganism because it means more meat for me!
@mattyfuture
3 ай бұрын
God tells us animals dont have souls guys. Dont be evil, dont get deleted in fire and miss eternity...hell is not eternal, thats a misconception
@ArthurDraper123
3 ай бұрын
Just ignore this bugs twit- he's the type of guy who happily skips through quarries without a care in the world 😂😂😂
@girlbossmiepje
3 ай бұрын
who?
@ArthurDraper123
3 ай бұрын
@@girlbossmiepje exactly 🤣
@lukewhyman
4 ай бұрын
Debate a dr that disagrees with your views mate
@gj2885
4 ай бұрын
Why are lions and tigers allowed to hurt animals at will. I'd like to see these predators prosecuted for their crimes.
@chrissiehorsley304
4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Burner_269
4 ай бұрын
So, are you a lion, by any chance? Other animals use and kill each other for food, they also do other appalling things to each other, infanticide for example. Should we really base our moral societal framework on what other animals do and what happens in nature? We are moral agents and have a choice, we understand right and wrong, animals may also, but they don't have that same choice, they are killing to survive. We can continue to breed, exploit and kill these other beings whose lives matter to them for things we don't need, based on our own selfish wants. Or we can choose to recognise the rights of others and strive for a better world for all sentient individuals.
@emmy_the_nbnd
4 ай бұрын
Do you equate your own intelligence to the one of a lion? Does the lion have the same opportunities as you? No? Exactly.
@benmrgamw681
4 ай бұрын
There is a looooooong list of reasons to never go vegan. Vegan children are shorter and have lower bone mineral content. A high soy/legume/seed/bean diet is not only unhealthy but also super harmful in so many ways due to the super high levels of toxic metals like lead and cadmium, anti nutrients that block full absorption of protein, zinc, iron, calcium, B12, etc as well as it being a weaker source of all of these. A vegan diet is also either a super high carb diet which easily leads to cardio vascular disease or full of synthetic supplements which can never replace food and is bad for children. Theres also a very good reason scientists and nutritionists give athletes meals based around meats for superior health, performance, recovery etc.. there are some vegans like Djokovic that chnaged due to allergies but no life long vegan stands out at all, not a single athlete. These facts and so many more prove meat is king and forever 😁
@plantgeezer
4 ай бұрын
i'll happily debate you on the topic. are you confident enough?
@xperience-evolution
4 ай бұрын
You should learn how to read studies and how science works. Don't be fooled by these low carb quarks. Logic also helps. Think logic. It is very simple
@benmrgamw681
4 ай бұрын
@@plantgeezer let's go😁 what food source will you give to a baby for protein? I really hope it's not soy, beans, seed, legumes etc😂
@xperience-evolution
4 ай бұрын
@@benmrgamw681 breast Milk
@Lorenzo_That_Vegan_Dad
4 ай бұрын
@@benmrgamw681 Imagine not knowing breast milk has protein and all the nutrients a baby needs for development. Sad.
@GarudaLegends
4 ай бұрын
The vegan diet is deficient and I care about my health and longevity. meat is the healthiest food on the planet, while meat eaters live the longest. I just cant go vegan. I care about my health more than anything. If vegans lived the longest in age, and have the highest life expectancy, and were not deficient, i would go vegan.
@LouisGedo
4 ай бұрын
😆 🤣 😂
@maxiiehorus099
4 ай бұрын
All you have to do, is look at plant food nutrition charts, every single vitamin, mineral you could ever need can be obtained from a plant source, minus a few which can be obtained from a supplement. If health and longevity is what you're going for, veganism is what you should strive for.
@GarudaLegends
4 ай бұрын
@@LouisGedo 🤣🤣. Vegans want me so badly to eat their unhealthy diet bro.👍 eat meat and live long.
@GarudaLegends
4 ай бұрын
@@maxiiehorus099 the vegan diet is deficient in many nutrients the vegans have a horrible life expectancy. The oldest ppl to live and the ppl who have the highest life expectancy eat the most meat per capita. The best diet for longevity has meat in it, not a silly and deficient vegan diet. This is why I can never go vegan. My life is important to me.
@maxiiehorus099
4 ай бұрын
@@GarudaLegends Are there any peer-reviewed papers you can cite in favour of these claims? I could say that reality says otherwise, however, that would matter little in contrast to personal anecdotes. Also, do note that if someone is on "deficient vegan diet", it's a simple matter to do a little more research and include (maybe exclude) some foods from your diet, for you see, diets vegan or otherwise, can be inadequate, hence making it even more important to adequately adapt to one that not only suits your needs, but also tastes.
It’s still very restrictive, and the protien isn’t as bio-available. If you’re a man working out, you need 200-250g of protein per day. Eating a vegan diet you’d have to eat an insane amount of calories to achieve that.
@Planet-Bees
4 ай бұрын
Don't forget to supplement with Leviticus 11.🤓👍
@nasiatsekouras170
4 ай бұрын
@@TheArbiterOfTruthWhen it comes to innocent animals being so horrifically abused and killed against their will, there is no such thing as “protein”. Google how to get the protein you need from plants. Watch The Game Changers on KZitem. These guys can lift cars! Veganism isn’t a diet. It’s avoiding as much as possible, all forms of abuse and cruelty to animals, whether for food, clothing, experimentation, entertainment, or any other use.
@Planet-Bees
4 ай бұрын
@@bugsthompson Many human 'advancements' are, at best, illusions. The V game is just more nonsense but you do you!
@tobswatts
4 ай бұрын
Nice to see a open minded person regardless of diet.
@misty_oar
4 ай бұрын
Wanting to see an ethical person, with a diet consistent with those morals.
@kasiad2862
4 ай бұрын
He seems smart and quick. Wish him the best, wish he'll be vegan soon 💚
@CeeCeeD
4 ай бұрын
They are not human rights they are rights. Humans do not have the monopoly on rights.
@ArthurDraper123
4 ай бұрын
LOL what?!?
@pacmanmcgavin7034
4 ай бұрын
We do. Can you dig it?
@TheArbiterOfTruth
4 ай бұрын
Animals don’t have rights. Humans do. Humans are superior to animals.
@emmanarotzky6565
4 ай бұрын
They are all animal rights. Humans only have rights because they are animals. If humans weren’t animals, they wouldn’t be able to suffer and that means they wouldn’t need rights.
@kwimms
3 ай бұрын
All rights come from God. Human rights, like all others, are Communist nonsense. Animals only have the rights we give them for we are their God. This is obvious. Wake up wokies.
@georgie4
4 ай бұрын
Many years ago when I worked in a butchery the lads were cutting up a carcas. He said this was a very sick animal. Full of tumours! They still jointed it and put it out to sell. Wonder if the buyer still alive? I wish I'd known then what I know now... soo ignorant. Bless you Joey ❤❤❤❤❤
@pluripotentprotoplasm
4 ай бұрын
If you knew anything you wouldn't do what you are doing now.
@someguy2135
3 ай бұрын
@@pluripotentprotoplasmvegans do not go vegan because of ignorance. We go vegan because we learned the facts
@aenab.4596
3 ай бұрын
I have seen a video where they were showing how much better it was to work frozen meat because otherwise the pockets of pus that are randomly in the meat would leak. So when slicing the frozen meat they got a cross section view of a pocket of pus, it was pretty big and was a pale green color🤢
@erikolsen6269
4 ай бұрын
Youre the man Joey
@AzxVhy
4 ай бұрын
men eat animals
@Jasonzx848
4 ай бұрын
😊
@maxmcintyre5068
3 ай бұрын
Once a convict always a convict
@BR9900-w5l
3 ай бұрын
Criminal you mean 😊
@dianedevery2662
4 ай бұрын
Thank you Joey ❤
@nick_LDN
4 ай бұрын
One of your best debates yet! So good to see mutual appreciation
@ryker4549
4 ай бұрын
It does NOT MATTER how YOU were RAISED YOU ARE A BIG BOY NOW YOU DONT HAVE TO DO WHAT DADDY DID 30 YEARS AGO ITS TIME TO GROW MOVE FORWARD LEAVE THE ANIMALS ALONE & LIVE 🌱 VEGAN
@TheArbiterOfTruth
4 ай бұрын
Not if you want to be strong and healthy.
@Rescue127
4 ай бұрын
@@TheArbiterOfTruththere are bodybuilders out there who are big and strong and have won titles and they are vegan. Come up with actual facts please.
@allandm
4 ай бұрын
@@TheArbiterOfTruth why would the American association of dietetics lie about plant based diets? The NHS in the UK also stated they are healthy, why would they lie about that? What's the conspiracy theory, I'm genuinely interested 😂
@ryker4549
4 ай бұрын
@@TheArbiterOfTruth don't show IGNORANCE
@TheArbiterOfTruth
4 ай бұрын
@@allandm to weaken people?
@Imcarolinek
4 ай бұрын
Eating animals definitely accumulates bad karma 😢
@GarudaLegends
4 ай бұрын
Meanwhile humans been eating animals forever. 😂
@Unmasking_Viandalisme
4 ай бұрын
Have to disagree. Me & chubby😸both had minced🐄& couldn't be happier. Karma doesn't exist!
@lightninggornall
4 ай бұрын
just bless your plate and thank it for the nutrition it provides, job done !
@JB.zero.zero.1
4 ай бұрын
@@lightninggornall Meaningless.
@Insight-music
4 ай бұрын
@@lightninggornall imagination
@plantgeezer
4 ай бұрын
'you got me in a circle' "you got me" are words i'm hearing a lot lately 👀
@Unmasking_Viandalisme
4 ай бұрын
Nutrition will always undermine V.
@ArthurDraper123
4 ай бұрын
Mmmm...you may want to lay off your veganboi group "activities" for a while then? 😅😅😅
@COLDCHEMICALpresents
4 ай бұрын
Favorite part of the vid. You can see him realizing the circularity of his arguments. I have high hopes for this guy, I think once he's had time to digest the conversation he'll start putting the pieces together.
@misty_oar
4 ай бұрын
What? @@ArthurDraper123
@plantgeezer
4 ай бұрын
@@ArthurDraper123 🥱
@EvoSporthorses
4 ай бұрын
When you go vegan your tastes change! Give it 30days pure detox from meat. You'll find yourself craving raw veg, salads, fruit, vegan spicy dishes of which there are THOUSANDS!!!! Stick with the detox and you won't look back. I can't stand cakes, fast food, anything processed now! Just legumes, veg and fruit. I'm a former lingerie model, yet im 52 and menopause, yet my body looks better than it did when I was modelling and I've tonnes of energy and feel amazing! Going vegan 'cold turkey' was the best thing I ever did! FACT! 5yrs vegan, NEVER, EVER going back!
@DarenC
4 ай бұрын
I envy you. I'm 8 years vegan and still miss bacon, chicken madras, steak and cheese. Oh and extra thick cream spooned straight from the tin
@barbariandude
4 ай бұрын
Yo, got any vegan spicy dishes you could recommend? Been a spice fiend since I was a kid, and making a commitment to become as vegan as I can reasonably be in my society has meant a lot more home cooking and experimentation for me, as that's not really an option in restaurants and fast food places here.
@John.anti-carnist
4 ай бұрын
@@DarenC Id say the only thing I miss is cream, although The coconut collab. do a pretty good one now! The thought of eating any animal flesh disgusts me.
@Veganarchy-Zetetic
4 ай бұрын
@@DarenC I think I still miss them but not sure I even remember what they taste like after 10 years tbh. I have had vegan bacon that tastes very similar if not the same as, vegan cheese, vegan cream so not sure why you miss these in particular. 2 qualified chefs lived next door to me, and they were shocked at how good the vegan food I eat tastes. Apparently, the best burger they have ever eaten lol
@DarenC
4 ай бұрын
@@Veganarchy-Zetetic Beyond burgers are excellent, for sure, and they 100% scratch my burger itch!
@robsengahay5614
4 ай бұрын
Hmmm. I had a completely different perspective with this guy. I felt that he sat down because he thought he had a few ‘killer’ arguments that he could beat Joey with but one by one they were dismantled. You could see the frustration in him until eventually he just had to run away. I suspect that he may even have used these arguments with his partner or other vegan/vegetarians he met but Joey is just a class act. He wasn’t interested in ever becoming a vegan though I sensed he was a tiny bit curious why Joey was vegan.
@peace_in_the_now
4 ай бұрын
he was conflicted, but at the end he really greeted from the heart, so joey touched his heart, which is the essence of veganism - definitely a future vegan, but the process still needs the 'click'
@karmakimdaisy8680
4 ай бұрын
I love this guy ❤😂 hope he goes Vegan
@veganradiation
4 ай бұрын
Its amazing how some people still cling to the idea that consuming animal products is necessary for good health and well-being, when theres overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Im sharing this, come check out some of my favorite resources on vegan nutrition and lifestyle for a more compassionate and sustainable approach!
@michaeljones7497
4 ай бұрын
It is necessary for good health there are amazing health benefits from fish red meat honey liver kidneys.
@reesecarr2105
4 ай бұрын
QUIT LIVING IN THE PAST, GROW UP, GROW COMPASSION! LIVE VEGAN
@maxmcintyre5068
3 ай бұрын
Nope
@happycarnivore..
3 ай бұрын
Steak will set you free.
@reesecarr2105
3 ай бұрын
@@happycarnivore.. how original, your mommy said it is time for bed, now go to the basement.
@happycarnivore..
3 ай бұрын
@@reesecarr2105 Mate I am in my 50's, chill-out. 🥩
@reesecarr2105
3 ай бұрын
@@happycarnivore.. you have the mentality of a child, PITY
@NathanBlackberry
4 ай бұрын
Thank you very much Joey for all the work you do for animals♥️♥️♥️🐮🐖🐔🐟🐁🐝🦊😊😊😊🌱🌱🌱
@LouisGedo
4 ай бұрын
👋 🫂
@NathanBlackberry
4 ай бұрын
@@LouisGedo 🤗🤗🤗💚💚💚🫂🫂🫂
@Maxxx-ld7lz
4 ай бұрын
You soooo right, Louis!! ❤
@pacmanmcgavin7034
4 ай бұрын
@@LouisGedo He doesn't do any work for the animals. Just lines his pockets with donor money. Neither do you.
@LouisGedo
4 ай бұрын
@@pacmanmcgavin7034 Stop liking your own comments with your multiple accounts, sweetie
@mcc5295
4 ай бұрын
❤❤ great video
@PauIdenino
4 ай бұрын
I can see him being a future vegan!
@COLDCHEMICALpresents
4 ай бұрын
Me too. I have a good feeling about him.
@ilyessmatri6719
3 ай бұрын
@@COLDCHEMICALpresents i hope is not
@ChaseAvior
4 ай бұрын
Ban Slaughter
@ArthurDraper123
4 ай бұрын
Bbbbut how would you survive without slaughterhouse porn?
@BR9900-w5l
3 ай бұрын
It's legal little man 😅😅😅
@martinkevin4827
4 ай бұрын
Brilliant outreach Joey as always, you're a vegan legend warrior.
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