Bmw and Kubica in 2008, oh what could have been...we could have had a nice 3-way battle for the title..
@simontravers2715
18 сағат бұрын
BMW= Blown More Wins!!!
@hamdanali2036
16 сағат бұрын
and yet the fools decided to switch focus to 2009, only to make a shit car in 2009
@mihaelsoldo4304
15 сағат бұрын
I wonder too what would it be 🤔🤔
@KrisRogos
16 сағат бұрын
Kubica's story is such a roller coaster! - Has one of the biggest crashes in F1 - Wins at the same track a year later - Misses out on the title that year because BMW decide not to upgrade the car - Signs for Ferrari just when they are about to get good - Crashes again in Rally - Comes back to the sport nearly a decade later with amazing fan support - Scores just 1 point across the whole year while the team was heading for a complete collapse - Wins LMP2 WEC
@98RandR
15 сағат бұрын
- wins wrc2 title - loses le mans because car broke on the last lap - wins hypercar race with ferrari
@TheBrummi10
17 сағат бұрын
Love that John Newhouse wink, never stop doing that. Shoutout to Geoff Crammond
@AidanMillward
17 сағат бұрын
@@TheBrummi10 every time I do the joke someone comes along saying it would translate to Newtown. Some people are just too young to get it.
@Woodie-xq1ew
18 сағат бұрын
“A fully fledged factory formula 1 team” Say that 10 times quickly 😂
@AidanMillward
17 сағат бұрын
@@Woodie-xq1ew the bit about Villeneuve being mr you can’t use my name took six ten minutes to get right. 😒
@Woodie-xq1ew
16 сағат бұрын
@@AidanMillward yeah it’s a pain in the arse when you can’t get your mouth into gear
@hamdanali2036
16 сағат бұрын
that’s not a tongue twister
@AeroGuy07
17 сағат бұрын
Montoya got 4 of his 7 wins in the BMW Williams. To be honest, I'd forgotten that he'd gotten 3 wins with McLaren. To be totally honest, I'd forgotten that he drove for McLaren!
@nowind37
17 сағат бұрын
also bmw had Intel Sponsorship which from 2006-2009 which were ISI (a.k.a Motorsport Games) partnered with Intel to Bring the F1.06 into rFactor but sadly didnt happened due to licensing issues but ISI added the F1.07 as a Addon also the F1.08 appeared in the rFactor Special edition but not on the main game also rFactor is a evolution of the F1 Challenge 99-02 but without F1 License
@AidanMillward
16 сағат бұрын
@@nowind37 and then I did work for Studio 397 which owns rFactor2. Small world.
@jacekatalakis8316
16 сағат бұрын
Live for Speed got the 06 BMW/Sauber instead, abnd then later on a Formula BMW as well just to complete the set of where did each BMW/Sauber car end up. With LFS and RF1's engines, both cars managed to look amazing but not really fit into either sim's art style. LFS, you had fictional tracks that the BMW looked entirely out of place on until you found the right car/track combo, Aton or Westhill with the Sauber were a treat to drive. Also LFS somehow got the race suit, JV and Quick Nick's helmets, and the ability to do custom liveries for the BMW with paint templates, no idea how or why Scavier pulled that one off but it was, likely still is, a thing RF1, default tracks did not do the cars, even stock fake RF1 content, no favors, they stuck out vs the engine, I seem to recall Northampton being the one of the worst for this and never knew if someone out there fixed the texture work for the default Northampton track or not though. To me, again as with LFS,you had to find the right car/track combot that not only looked good, but also drove well. Parts of Essington did but then other bits of other tracks were just awful to drive in that car, but then I gather that's accurate for the 07 Sauber though. Sardian Heights was always a pet peeve of mine though for how utterly awful the track was with the Sauber, but it was antastic in slower machinery
@413TomaccoRoad
18 сағат бұрын
The Brabham BMW qualifying engine was 1500 hp. The race engine was somwhere around 950-1000hp. There never was a definitive number for the race engine.
@Cynderfan35
18 сағат бұрын
i got a feeling that those qualifying engines lasted barely the time needed to set a lap time before went boom
@413TomaccoRoad
17 сағат бұрын
@@Cynderfan35 They had to tear 'em down and rebuild after qualifying. Like a Top Fuel or Funny Car.
@f1jones544
17 сағат бұрын
Myth. It was not racing at near 950-1000. Maybe for a lap or two if necessary, otherwise those turbos were generally cranked down to last the race.
@Sticktothemodels
16 сағат бұрын
I thought those engines topped out at 850bhp in race trim
@RJFHMusic
17 сағат бұрын
I love these videos! Especially during this 'short' F1 break
@robbyk5266
18 сағат бұрын
Thanks for another great video Aidan! Just a couple thoughts on this subject. First and foremost BMW's Sauber time was their first time owning a team outright but it was a continuation of their, at that time, latest F1 foray not their absolute first time like Audi. Secondly, it's rather unfair to suggest Williams BMW wasn't Mega when they were up against Newey's McLaren and The Michael's Ferrari dream team, but arguably still managed to make the most powerful or highest revving engine of the era. One can only wonder how much better they'd have done if they hadn't wanted to own a team outright and stayed with Williams.
@rogerjohnson6676
17 сағат бұрын
Not unfair to suggest at all. That Williams was an unreliable POS that JPM made the best of.
@tedtheo7131
18 сағат бұрын
If onlu bwm had kept developing that 08 car, couldve been a great comeback victory steal.
@jonnyspa27
16 сағат бұрын
Yeah, I was so pissed for Bob. He had a righteous gripe for ‘08 post-Canada…
@billmcdonald4335
18 сағат бұрын
Ah, the Beemer turbos: the gully cat of lumps. Last I heard the HP count was somewhere north of eleventy-seven thousand. Legend.
@TehMehKehIen
18 сағат бұрын
Oh, we're at 1600 BHP already? When do we reckon we get to 1700, 2027?
@AidanMillward
17 сағат бұрын
@@TehMehKehIen Tuesday.
@josephnus
18 сағат бұрын
7:14 I heard it as Shameless Malarkey at first 😂😂😂
@AidanMillward
17 сағат бұрын
@@josephnus a malarkey joke was in the works but couldn’t come up with something that was funny
@elbeto191291
18 сағат бұрын
I feel BMW Sauber's 2008 is the worst example of competitivity and marketing as a company. For a company like BMW that prides itself in winning races and championships in pretty much every category in the world they've had cars racing in, to throw away such an opportunity to get themselves into F1 history WITH A FACTORY TEAM should have been a marketing decision enough to give it all in 2008. It's a shame, actually.
@arthuralford
18 сағат бұрын
If anything, Audi is starting further back than BMW did. The current cars are garbage; the company is in turmoil, and like during the Alfa days, one driver is there for sponsors, the other is on his retirement cruise. Audi supposedly has their 2026 engine development on schedule (there's that word again), they hired someone who was maligned at Ferrari yet without the Maranello politics is making headway slowly. And next year's drivers? Hulkenberg was the previous regime's choice, and the second seat is looking more and more like it'll either be taken by whoever's left (Bottas) or a rookie who is managing to make an impression in the Williams (Colopinto)
@ExodiaNecross2
19 сағат бұрын
F1 2006 & 2010 Saubers my favourites
@bumblebity2902
19 сағат бұрын
2010 Sauber has nothing with BMW, only the name because deadline was passed to change entry name.
@motorsportfan86
19 сағат бұрын
Only gripe with the Titel in 2010 BMW has nothing to do anymore with the Team thats why in the entry IT was called BMW Sauber Ferrari so that Peter sauber could buy His Team Back from BMW at the end of 2009
@swidr5626
15 сағат бұрын
It's crazy how those manufacture teams that left in '08 or '09 missed their big opportunities literally by their request. Firstly BMW by not developing their car in '08, then Honda by selling their team and basically ideal car in '09 and then Toyota which apparently had a great car for '10 leaving. It's insane
@swidr5626
15 сағат бұрын
But also BMW Sauber is kinda a perfect explanation why i hate 5 year plans in sports. Nobody is standing still for you to catch up, everyone else is working hard, and you have to understand it. Yeah having goals is important but you have to go forward all the time no matter if you are not meeting your expectations or exceeding them. Having hard placed goals while competing with others at the very top makes no sense and will either ruin natural progression of the team (like it did with BMW Sauber) or end up creating a lot of chaos because of not meeting next to impossible goals (like with Alpine and borderline Aston). You can't do that in this sport, well in reality you can't do that in every sport, because others might influence your progression more than yourself
@ibex485
18 сағат бұрын
Toyota & Jaguar get all the headlines, but for me BMW is the worst example, why manufacturers/corporations are so awful at running F1 teams. They somehow got the hard part right and had a competitive car, but chose to throw it all away because the plan was championship in 2009, not 2008. At the time there was a story going around that one reason they did that was due to marketing. They were launching a new range of pseudo-'hybrid' cars and had a marketing campaign planned based around their new Kers 'hybrid' F1 car. Of course their Kers & chassis was so bad that like most of the other manufacturers they couldn't get it off the car fast enough. (Iirc) only McLaren ran Kers for the whole season (with the exception of Silverstone, where there was too little braking to recharge it).
@JohnSmithShields
16 сағат бұрын
I would have loved to have seen how effective the Williams kers would have been, as they were designing it around a flywheel rather than a battery.
@Axle0Bullitt019
15 сағат бұрын
9:45 I might be crazy but isn’t it just M, M Motorsport, or M Performance? Nothing on BMW’s site says M Sport anywhere. Yet M-Sport is the modern abbreviation of Malcolm Wilson Sport the rally/gt4 car builders. This always has been something that I found odd and have never found any clear answer on.
@tristanwhite3472
15 сағат бұрын
It was in 2008 they should have carried on with the development of the car instead of focusing on the 2009 car.
@413TomaccoRoad
18 сағат бұрын
I wonder how many engine parts RB has 3d laser scanned? 😅
@bumblebity2902
19 сағат бұрын
After 2009 BMW Sauber only was the name, because they applied 2010 with this name and deadline was passed a long time ago to change the entry name for Peter Sauber.
@nihildwo4874
17 сағат бұрын
and bmw was okay with Sauber using the name, which led to the funny team name "BMW Sauber Ferrari"
@Tacko14
18 сағат бұрын
I'm starting to feel more and more sorry for Sauber. They are a Name, they really try and are able to decently compete. But unlike other privateers, they were also always a plaything for whichever factory brand they worked with. Sometimes it worked but more often it didn't. McLaren/TAG or Honda, it was a McLaren. Williams/Renault or Honda, it was a Williams. Sauber? Alfa Romeo had nothing to do but provide the name and the money, but the name trumped. Stake? Ok, that is ridiculous enough that we decided to call them Sauber again. We did, not Sauber themselves. Why are they such pushovers when it comes to brand pride? Peter Sauber deserves a better legacy than this. The Sauber/Mercedes C9 is one of my hero cars, and it was a Sauber. In my mind, anyway. But even now, the title is BMW Sauber, not Sauber powered by BMW. I hate that.
@bumblebity2902
19 сағат бұрын
The BMW way.
@y_fam_goeglyd
18 сағат бұрын
Another case of too many cooks (aka _chefs_ or "chiefs"). Had they left the organisation to Peter Sauber, who knows what would have happened.
@mpainter22
18 сағат бұрын
Basically Williams weren't the issue, it was BMW
@tombardsley3081
18 сағат бұрын
They were both at fault. Williams were also poor with some decisions they made with the car. The walrus nose wasn't on BMW.
@tomhutchins7495
17 сағат бұрын
I love the 2006 cars. They look like little spaceships with the wings all over the place
@TommyToboggan611
18 сағат бұрын
wasn't this yesterdays video?
@TommyToboggan611
18 сағат бұрын
Nvm. Just another BMW story. Thank you Aidan
@OoVECTORMANoO
16 сағат бұрын
Why in the green hell would you not want your name using in a video game let alone an F1 video game? I mean, even if you stand to make no financial gain whatsoever that's still one hell of a brag you can do to the grandkids one day.
@5340robert
18 сағат бұрын
Not carrying on developing the 2008 made them look like Wan-Kers.
@JohnSmithShields
16 сағат бұрын
Definitely not rockstars.
@f1jones544
17 сағат бұрын
The first lesson Audi should have learned is to not buy into F1's most useless team in the sport's history. Sauber doesn't get nearly the notoriety it should for being the waste that it's been over the last 30 years with one extremely flukey to their credit, as was their one decent season in 2008 in entirety. Given their commercial stability and technical resources, Sauber almost make Arrows look like overachievers on balance.
@AidanMillward
17 сағат бұрын
@@f1jones544 so only winning teams are allowed in? We’d be down to three teams with this logic.
@jax4113
16 сағат бұрын
This is one of the worst takes I've heard...ever
@djbadlt
15 сағат бұрын
I thought it was "new town"
@AidanMillward
15 сағат бұрын
@@djbadlt it is
@saintuk70
17 сағат бұрын
2008 - a year to forget for car design .... not one car looked nice....fugly.
@nowind37
18 сағат бұрын
well if audi isnt enough f1 should allow russian car brands to join since marussia in 2014 or bring dacia or vanwall isotta fraschini or lancia
@simontravers2715
18 сағат бұрын
@AidanMillward Mr. *You-Can’t-Use-My-Name-In-F1-Games* !!!😆😆 👏 Hole In 1!!!!
@SophiaSons
19 сағат бұрын
I watch your channel with pleasure. Your videos are a real treat for the eyes.🌡🧬🍾
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