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@SarahWebb336
4 жыл бұрын
Look, you really need to talk to whoever it was who decided to call lorna's mental health issues a 'choice'. It's not okay to imply that someone suffering from trauma related disassociation is choosing their mental health issues.
@nicolawylie3447
4 жыл бұрын
There's no video for the part 3 😭😭 where can I find it pls?!
@Tinette_Izdashit
4 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for part 3. Even tho it's crappy that her "family" are changing for the worse, Nicky has developed into one of my fave characters because of how strong she had to become by default.
@Tinette_Izdashit
4 жыл бұрын
@@SarahWebb336 You're recognizing Lorna's miscarriage (which was her tipping point) to be the only instance in her life that made her seem like she had a mental illness. There were tons of examples of her knowing wrong from right. Perfect example: when she told Rosa to escape because she didn't want Rosa to die from cancer in prison. That was awesome because it was the right thing to do. Lorna killed a guy and isn't even in jail for murder! I understand what u mean by saying that mental illness isn't a decision but even Crazy Eyes knows not to run away from a problem that she caused. Lorna chose to be crazy. Crazy is her coping mechanism and she doesn't want to leave that comfortable cozy section of crazy.
@katy5183
4 жыл бұрын
@@Tinette_Izdashit Mental illness is never a choice. End of story.
@Buk718
4 жыл бұрын
Gloria was the ROCK out of all the characters, one of the few that had her head on straight. She deserved a good ending. She was easily one of my favorites...
@edithhousset
4 жыл бұрын
Same, i love Gloria. Remember in the riot she was the one who stepped up and made sure everyone had dinner.
@uaenaonce8231
4 жыл бұрын
@かおり Yes but this show also shows how some people got here and makes us be able to sympathize with them.
@KayleeCee
4 жыл бұрын
@Nordic Frost She 'came over'? Sweetie, Gloria was from Puerto Rico, which makes her a US citizen. People who paint all immigrants with the same brush are already assholes, but people who assume that all "brown" people are automatically immigrants and criminals are special kinds of assholes.
@adelinewurzer4533
4 жыл бұрын
so true
@adelinewurzer4533
4 жыл бұрын
@かおり wow. the entire meaning of this show was lost on u.
@jojotorres4998
4 жыл бұрын
When Pennsatucky died after she passed. It torn me 😭
@lkctom2546
4 жыл бұрын
Holy shit same
@DDios-ih9de
4 жыл бұрын
Thr girl you liked hating you ended up loving All she really wanted was to be want loved needed and kindness.
@monkeyballs117
4 жыл бұрын
After I finished the series, I rewatched the whole thing again and her death just crushed me.
@alexisrivera3994
4 жыл бұрын
She was a recovering addict, she thought she could take the amount she did because of her tolerance. What made me brake down was that she passed.
@wowsome895
4 жыл бұрын
I lost a piece of me when pensatucky died and it ruined me until I read about her results part of that returned 😢
@thequarrywoman1
4 жыл бұрын
I know Nicky's end was supposed to be a hopeful note (her taking charge as a prison mom and following red's footsteps) but I think its so heartbreaking that she had to watch the only two people she actually loved slowly deteriorate mentally and forget about her. I cant imagine something worst.
@Ruderickle2424
4 жыл бұрын
Experienced this with my dog and his final month It fucked me up for years
@behindyou2025
4 жыл бұрын
I thought Nicky would go out for sure but after realized the series never tell us how many years left for her in prison,and at the end When I found she might has to serve longer than I assumed, I feel so sad about her. Damn it.
@kyliemcgee2398
4 жыл бұрын
And not to mention when she finally had a little hope with her new girlfriend, she just got taken away as well
@Buk718
4 жыл бұрын
Big Facts!
@robertcarey2264
4 жыл бұрын
Bare in mind the whole season took place in the span of less than 2 years so Nicki was still facing at least 3 years
@sorrowsuperstar10
4 жыл бұрын
Lornas Story is so deep ...the actress that plays her is soooo good
@DDios-ih9de
4 жыл бұрын
sorrowsuperstar10 did you know shes Australian? Yea that was great acting Perfect accent Youd never know she was Aussie
@meganmichaels9510
4 жыл бұрын
It broke my heart
@kylin2795
4 жыл бұрын
D. Dios I thought she was from ny, specifically Long Island. She had the accent 😆
@hernandez4871
4 жыл бұрын
I've always thought that she is Italian, not only the character but the actress too.
@bink6778
3 жыл бұрын
@@DDios-ih9de you just broke my brain, her accent is flawless!
@bafbaas1210
4 жыл бұрын
Lorna was always my fav character and her fate is honestly one of the scariest. I mean it has to do the least with prison itself but it's like your mind turning against you. That's so scary
@antonelabakavic4045
4 жыл бұрын
Ikt. But, it is not the prison only. Lorna always has some sort of mental disorder. For every difficult and traumatic emotional situation, she couldn't or didn't know how to deal with, her mind would create an alternative reality in which she could feel safe. Like lying but unfortunately she couldn't control when her mind would have lied to her and with time it got worse and it got scarier cause she totally lost a touch with reality because her mind couldn't cope with the loss of her son. It was so sad to see her totally emotionally broken unable to accept the truth. And the prison did the rest ofcourse. If she had a normal life and the help of psychiatrist, am I sure she would have a chance to get better. Sadly in prison she had no chance. She was such a beautiful, lovely, kind girl.
@celia-ov6rm
4 жыл бұрын
she was crazy from the start...!!
@aaliyahfeacher5427
4 жыл бұрын
Bri - No she was mentally ill before she was even in prison
@lkctom2546
4 жыл бұрын
I hatee her
@alexisrivera3994
4 жыл бұрын
What caused her to lose her shit was postpartum she couldn't face the fact that her baby died. I don't think any of us would be able to face that especially in prison.
@Georgia7Pap
4 жыл бұрын
For me the most heartbreaking character ending was Red's. She was always so strong and a born leader and for her to end up like that is the worst.
@TheOGWhovianMaster
4 жыл бұрын
It was particularly hard for me. Her personality is exactly like my mother, and honestly, so is her face. Watching her deteriorate was terrifying for me.
@jessicakrider5374
3 жыл бұрын
Yesss that broke me the most. I am also reminded of my mom through red
@ariyanbista5837
2 жыл бұрын
@@jessicakrider5374 I thought I was a creep for thinking that. It broke me too seeing Red's ending
@dianaflores9571
4 жыл бұрын
why is no one talking about the sad ass part when suzanne puts the egg on pt’s pillow cause before she died, she wanted breakfast for dinner😭bawled my eyes out.
@alexrox5965
4 жыл бұрын
me too, I cried so much my bf was actually worried !
@eli2clutch63
4 жыл бұрын
Same here 😭
@probablykillua4680
4 жыл бұрын
Same, Suzanne not being able to get PTuck her Breakfast For Dinner made me bawl my eyes out
@martha-hy7vq
4 жыл бұрын
my eyes literally hurt the next morning :((
@dejavu2582
3 жыл бұрын
Omg me too same, I was super sad when I saw dogget die but when Suzanne did that I cried
@christenamarz7780
4 жыл бұрын
I'm just mad we never heard of Bennet (Daya's babydaddy) Like why did he run off? where too?
@DDios-ih9de
4 жыл бұрын
christena martinez Really ! I kept waiting for that coward to limp on back and be a man.. Im pissed off still.
@camilanieto8673
4 жыл бұрын
men b like that sometimes
@jllaw96
4 жыл бұрын
He ran off to How to Get Away With Murder he’s one of the main characters
@Buk718
4 жыл бұрын
Daphney Charles Relax lol...
@makaylahurtado5485
4 жыл бұрын
J Lawrence they mean it in the sense of why he left in character in the show like they never gave his character a reasoning as to leaving the setting of the jail
@edabakb
4 жыл бұрын
I will never forgive Cindy for what she did to Tasty. She ruined her WHOLE life and then went on to have a wonderful life of her own. I can't help but hate her for that.
@AiyanaWolfe
4 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere she was supposed to die and the actress begged the writers to give her a good ending. I thought it was interesting
@thequarrywoman1
4 жыл бұрын
Cindy was always someone with enormous survival instinct and putting herself first, even if that meant harming others. The thing is she never cared. But she grew so much that shes probably gonna live the rest of her life with the weight of what she did. Also, I think its very easy to judge her from our confortable seats. Im not sure that many people wouldnt do the same under the circumstances she was
@antonelabakavic4045
4 жыл бұрын
A Ikr. I feel the same the same and I hated Cindy for that
@moonlily1
4 жыл бұрын
Her life as we left it isn't wonderful. She is homeless, she has no friends, and she's estranged from her family. She's free and has hope, but that's not wonderful, it's just potential.
@celia-ov6rm
4 жыл бұрын
Tasty put herself on that situation! she WAS one of the biggest instigators of the riot! and by the end of it, they were willing to give in to most 'demands' but tasty was the one who said "no"! besides, tasty has had her post-prison opportunity when she was freeded in a previous season... but she messed up her opportunity! i am ok with giving people their second chance! but third?! now, you're asking too much!
@lilstonerprincess2135
4 жыл бұрын
Doggets story broke my heart, because at first I hated her but her character was one that grew so much into someone I think we all ended up loving, and I know how it feels to feel stupid and worthless, everything about her story makes me just wanna hug her tight and never let go
@veronicapiccinini1981
4 жыл бұрын
Same. I couldn’t stop bawling for all night.
@86chu6
2 жыл бұрын
Her character progression near the end surprised me a lot because I never saw myself in her before that. But I also took my GED this year and had to go through getting extended time. The systems we have in place have no idea how to handle people with disabilities. But I ended up passing. Watching that part was like looking in a mirror for me, really crazy
@ledszc
11 ай бұрын
It was luschek fault
@wiisalute
9 ай бұрын
@@86chu6tell me about it. For 8 years I was just working most of my life and didn't think college was meant for me because I have mild autism. Until in the beginning of the year I decided to get back on the horse and try again. I started this series 8 months ago right in the middle of Biology, which was a very tough subject. I ended up passing with a B+ as well as an A when I took history over the summer.
@icheca5553
4 жыл бұрын
You NEED to include Fig. Honestly her evolution is so great
@Hippiethecat124
4 жыл бұрын
I watched the show with my mom and we ended up discussing how crazy our evolving feelings towards Fig were. We really hated her for a few seasons, but as the narrative pulled back from the inmates to show the unjust power dynamics in the prison industrial complex, she became much more sympathetic as a figure who *did* want to make things better for the women under her charge, but was caught in a few miles of red tape.
@bapewrld2k601
4 жыл бұрын
Aubrey Hallman who was she again
@chenmarie25
4 жыл бұрын
Shxrp AM she was the manager of prison and Caputo’s lover
@adoredpromises
4 жыл бұрын
YES and nicky
@BrianaNicolee
4 жыл бұрын
Aubrey Hallman Hell yeah, especially when we got Linda. I almost wanted to cry tears of joy when Fig came back to the show. 😂
@naivenitara
4 жыл бұрын
I love how the show started out with Piper as the main character and then we all ended up caring more about the other characters because they weren't entitled, uninteresting nitwits
@forensikarie
4 жыл бұрын
I think Piper was just a tool to give the audience someone to identify with before drawing their attention to other characters once they're hooked on the show. I think for most viewers, it was easier to identify with the storyline of an educated middle-class woman who got locked away for a mistake she made many years ago, instead of drug dealers or women who committed violent crimes. Also, I hate to say that but I think it was easier to sell a pilot episode with a white main character to producers. And yes, I know it's based on a book and a real story, but the show is nothing like the book anyway.
@josh0292
4 жыл бұрын
@@forensikarie dont be so hard on drug dealers
@happyhorse1028
4 жыл бұрын
I think the show used her character to highlight a number of issues including white privilege and the general unfairness of the justice system. Chapman got a lighter sentence than most of the other prisoners Chapman violated her parole but unlike Tasty, was sent to a NA meeting Chapman got Furlough for her grandma while Washington didn’t get furlough for her mother. Chapman got early release in spite of being involved in the riot.
@oldmenaremyfave
4 жыл бұрын
@@happyhorse1028 I 1000% agree with you, It was so unfair, remember Judy King? Waaay more privileged! She only went to prison for her reputation because people wanted justice and for her to have consequences as a normal person would. But they didn't know that inside she got treated like a freaking queen even though she was just as guilty as most prisoners. She (a rich, powerful white woman) made herself seem like a victim on T.V saying everyone was treated the same, without human rights! she makes me sick trying to appease to the public eye telling them she was Pousseys' friend and that she was soo upset.
@Splatoon2News
4 жыл бұрын
@@josh0292 noones being hard on them it's just that not many people can identify with it lolol
@dasani.like.the.water.
4 жыл бұрын
psychosis and dissonance is not a choice. at all. no one would ever choose to go through that hell.
@alepolait8951
4 жыл бұрын
Kielee R it was worded poorly but the show never confirmed or gave Lorna a diagnosis. We don’t know if it’s a coping mechanism or something deeper. Meaning a reaction caused by trauma or something like a disorder.
@Firegen1
4 жыл бұрын
@@alepolait8951 Yeah this portion of the video was a little underwritten. It's true that the show never confirmed a diagnosis but bearing in mind how well they researched and developed other issues in the show this seems like a blind spot.
@alexisrivera3994
4 жыл бұрын
She is very head strong but you can tell she wasn't able to face her child's death that also comes with post partum being in prison you know she wouldn't be able to handle that.
@OmfgHiii
4 жыл бұрын
the video explained the lessons we can learn, not just explain the literal events
@Nihadha138
4 жыл бұрын
But i think since she was researching kids pictures on google by writing new born . She knew . She chose to do that. Since the show didn’t give a diagnosis i dont think we should be offended by that.
@vickienna_games
4 жыл бұрын
Pennsatucky, Lorna, Red, and Poussey's fates really messed me up.
@DDios-ih9de
4 жыл бұрын
Vicki Enna.yea Ps was horrendous
@brrrrrrrrino
4 жыл бұрын
Same, can't forget Maritza though. She deserved better
@vickienna_games
4 жыл бұрын
@@brrrrrrrrino That is true.
@iannafrare2196
4 жыл бұрын
what happened to red? the last two seasons arent on netflix
@shannonconnolly1586
4 жыл бұрын
@@iannafrare2196 they are
@danahernandez9179
4 жыл бұрын
But Lorna isn’t LYING and doesn’t realize she is LYING. She’s delusional and disassociating and is creating a scenario she would rather use as a coping mechanism than face the actual situation. She isn’t continuing to choose lying over her loved ones, she is so hurt she isn’t able to cope with anything else. It wasn’t a choice for her
@lacampanella6172
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah she absolutely knows she is lying she just can’t do anything about it
@Richard-lh3te
3 жыл бұрын
@@lacampanella6172 thats the mystery, we don’t know to what extent she knows she’s lying. Is she completely delusional or choosing to live in a fantasy?
@lacampanella6172
3 жыл бұрын
@@Richard-lh3te there is one episode where you can see that she knows that she’s lying. It‘s the one where she screams at Winnie because she "thought“ he cheated on her. Then Nicki confronted her and she said: "it’s happening again! I‘m freaking out and making something up like I did before and I‘m losing him because of that. And the worst: I can’t do anything about it. It just happens to me while I am watching at it without controlling myself.“ (or sth like that)
@horsegirlb7120
3 жыл бұрын
It depends on the moment. Sometimes she knows, sometimes she doesn't. Sometimes as she's saying it, she feels something is wrong but isn't quite sure what.
@theduckchick
3 жыл бұрын
It's why she needs real help.
@222Shay
4 жыл бұрын
This just shows you how shitty life is. Taystee was one of the characters with the most potential and is stuck in prison for life because she wanted justice for someone else. Pennsatucky overdosed on drugs she used to to cope with a failure that never happened. Nicky had to watch the two people who loved her the most, forget about her existence. Lorna and Red didn’t even lose their minds to being in prison, but to illness. Piper’s privilege allows her to have continuous, successful outcomes - despite her poor choices. Cindy continued to hurt the people that loved her, yet still had a better outcome than most in the prison. Gloria wanted a better life for her children, and ended up missing out on their childhoods. Daya and Aleida grew up with no positive role models, and are stuck in a toxic, systematic generational curse. Maritza is deported out of a country she lived in her whole life. A country built from immigrants.
@do9bellbessa545
3 жыл бұрын
When I finished watching the show and finally took a better look into the full picture it really wrecked me, Ive watched a lot of shows but this one in particular fucked me up Taystee, Dogget, Nicki, Red, Lorna, Maritza, Poussey, Karla, the poor woman who got raped and they were making her keep the baby All these characters had moments that were so fucked up and it just adds onto that layer of misery to know real people go through this shit, this show can really do a number on someone
@merfythegirl6950
2 жыл бұрын
Life fucking sucks sometimes
@IssabellaPerezCruz
Жыл бұрын
@@do9bellbessa545also Trisha. She was such a good person, it was sad that she died. She really didn't deserve that.
@probablykillua4680
4 жыл бұрын
When you think about it, Daya is the reason that P-Tuck died. If Daya hadn’t tried to force the GED teacher to sell droogz for her he wouldn’t have left, and if he hadn’t left HE would have filed for P-Tucks extra time and she wouldn’t have lost hope
@evlin97
4 жыл бұрын
Ok but it could also be the GED teachers fault for leaving. it could have been Daya’s crew for not discouraging her about the drug selling. it could have been Luschek for not filing for extra time. It could have been that girl P-Tuck was with before she passed for letting her overdose. It could of been Taystee’s fault for not teaching her well enough. Really it could be anyone’s fault
@chasired1510
3 жыл бұрын
@@evlin97 I like you
@evlin97
3 жыл бұрын
@@chasired1510 thank you 🥰
@simplyghosted1926
3 жыл бұрын
I started hating daya because she started putting people through so much pain without thinking about it or even caring
@jenjasper2310
3 жыл бұрын
@@evlin97 how could it be Taystees fault?? She passed so...
@jimenap5174
4 жыл бұрын
One of bests series ever. I've never feel so close to a character as I did in this series. You feel their feelings as it were yours.
@dearjessie83
4 жыл бұрын
So true. Maybe I don't watch enough TV shows, but OISNB characters felt so close to home (I've never been to prison) I sympathized almost every single one of them. I think whole cast is amazing and they made a very good job. However Im glad series ended, I dont' wanna see this show go completely downhill like some (The Walking Dead, Game of Thrones, Sex and the city etc)
@jasminehill6312
4 жыл бұрын
I felt really close to the characters in The Wire. I know what you mean.
@simplyghosted1926
3 жыл бұрын
Yes and when it ended, it genuinely hurt. It felt like someone so close to me had died. I balled my eyes out when the show ended. And the end credits on the last episode didn’t help my tears at all
@amyleefan85
4 жыл бұрын
Pennsatucky dying and then showing she would have passed was damn cruel. I cried my eyes out that episode. And Nicky got into one trauma after another in this last season. She fell for a women who was then deported, her "prison mom" and dear friend Red is suffering more and more from dementia, her former love interest and also close friend Lorna is losing it completely AND not to forget, she wants to stay away from drugs, which should be especially hard when confronted with such tragedys. I felt so devastated, watching all of this happen :(
@GlassMoonlightAngel
4 жыл бұрын
I didn't want to get out of bed after everything that happened to Lorna. It broke my heart when Vinny revealed what happened to their son. I held my kids so tight the next morning I was so emotionally invested in what happened to her.
@jimenap5174
4 жыл бұрын
I am crying again with Dogget Story 😟
@brandypride2942
4 жыл бұрын
oh my god, I know righ! i spoiled it for myself like an ass! I cant stop crying !!! what da fuck man!
@delly5965
4 жыл бұрын
Poussey dying was horrible, but Dogget's death absolutely destroyed me. I hated her so much in the beginning, but at some point she became my favourite. I was angry when I found out she passed her GED and stopped watching the show for a bit. She had been put down and let down so much, it made me angry to see the system couldn't even give her the slightest bit of stability for her to find and build more confidence in herself.
@lkctom2546
4 жыл бұрын
Same, I honestly believe I would have been the exact same as her
@lkctom2546
4 жыл бұрын
@@delly5965 same... I couldn't cope
@celia-ov6rm
4 жыл бұрын
Did you forget that she was a junkie who killed a couple of nurses before she went to prison?!
@Lanwarder
4 жыл бұрын
"She overdoses even though she hasn't touched drugs in years" ......Yeah, that's kind of how a lot of overdoses happen...when you're constantly using, your tolerance gets so high that getting enough to overdose is pretty much hard to do even on purpose. When you haven't touched in a long time, your tolerance goes down, you take a relatively small percentage of what you were used to and your body just can't handle it.
@rachelfox8108
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, exactly, which is why we lost Corey Monteith (the actor from Glee). He was a recovering addict who relapsed and took his usual dose, not realising that his old tolerance had depleted completely -- it was completely accidental.
@TabbyeLynne
4 жыл бұрын
I don't think Penssatucky overdosed on purpose, she was clean for long enough that she lost most of the tolerance she had previously built over time, she was probably doing her usual dose, just to numb the pain she was in, but it was too much for her body, I don't think she wanted to die, just to avoid reality for a little while
@aloha803
4 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what i thought! Doggett never seemed like someone who wanted to end her life. She experienced a lot of bad shit in her life, but she always got back on her feet. She was a fighter.
@mollyfoxxx
4 жыл бұрын
Tabbye Lynne I agree. I definitely don’t think it was intentional but that’s what the show implied. I’d like to think she wanted to live, and like you said, just escape reality for a little while.
@tg4655
4 жыл бұрын
I disagree
@nancycampbell9554
4 жыл бұрын
i dont think pennsatucky od on purpose i believe that daya set her up to kill her with the drugs although idk why as a recovering drug addict i know trying pick up where you left offf don't often end well but there was not enough drugs to kill anyone unless they was mixed with something thats just me though
@jessimarie4413
4 жыл бұрын
Same
@AC-ze1nh
3 жыл бұрын
Lorna's end is tragic but I'm glad the show went there. Mental illness does not disappear because of love. That's a huge misconception that's extremely hurtful. Her husband and Nikki loved her deeply, but it couldnt save her because Lorna needed the actual medical help that's so cruelly denied to so many.
@3th4n_ol26
3 жыл бұрын
I still can't believe they didn't show boo's reaction to dogget's death
@Karma-pj4xy
2 жыл бұрын
Right? I feel a little robbed for that
@baz1388
2 жыл бұрын
Same here I loved boo and doggets chemistry
@Idontwantabitchasshandle
Жыл бұрын
I imagine Alex telling them in the Ohio prison.
@ChickenMccZoe
4 жыл бұрын
This program is an absolute masterpiece. Brilliant writing, stunning acting of flawed, complex women who each have their own trials and tribulations and arcs that we're introduced to via Piper, the metaphorical Trojan horse.
@hlove6263
4 жыл бұрын
woah... I never thought of piper that way but I guess she is... shes extremely privileged I guess and shes like a sore thumb in the prison . shes there and we get to see everything from her pov
@phoebescott6787
3 жыл бұрын
I agree especially about how this show has mostly female characters, it portrays many different personalities and lives whereas shows dont do that a lot with women. I like that they had such different personalities and a lot were strong willed which I like when shows have women like that.
@DonnaBrooks
7 ай бұрын
Didn't you watch the video? The show's creator SAID in the video that Piper was a Trojan Horse. She pulled people into the show and then the showrunner could introduce all these other characters with so many different disadvantages and backstories until gradually you were watching because you cared about them and Piper was just another inmate.@@hlove6263
@saesnaughtyprincess
Жыл бұрын
Tiffany's death broke my heart. She went from a character I couldn't stand at first, to one of my favorite characters. I wish she could have had that happy ending. Her backstory was just so sad. Can I just say these videos have helped me way more than my therapist ever will? I seen so much of myself in every character. I am crying tears, maybe it's the weed idk. But I am learning so much about myself through your breakdown.
@pinkysaints2309
4 жыл бұрын
Lorna and Nicky storyline is so heartbreaking the way Nicky loved her
@emilys9950
4 жыл бұрын
The fact she passed the GED aswell😭
@tiaislam645
3 жыл бұрын
That broke me bro. If only she knew. Before she overdosed 😫😫😤😭😭😭
@lilwindex2320
4 жыл бұрын
So were just gonna forget about how they go to max *WHERE MISS CLAUDETTE WENT IN SEASON TWO*
@sandnvlog5260
3 жыл бұрын
And stella
@lacampanella6172
3 жыл бұрын
What happened to her? I never understood why she got out and then ended up in jail again.. can someone explain that to me?
@jennydelreal8267
3 жыл бұрын
@@lacampanella6172 her appeal got denied afterall bcs of what Larry said about her on his podcast, which is why she got so pissed at Piper and didn't care about attacking the me too guard. She was quite old, its possible she could have died after so much time in max, spending a lot of time in Ad Seg?
@lacampanella6172
3 жыл бұрын
@@jennydelreal8267 ohh now I understand it thank you
@tiaislam645
3 жыл бұрын
@@jennydelreal8267 shii 😮 rip
@bearelectric-ig8qu
4 жыл бұрын
When tasty said "Living with what you did can be your own punishment" i felt that in my soul.
@danderson8431
4 жыл бұрын
PLEASE....do one more video about where the wardens ended up Caputo, Henly, Porn Stash, I know there were a lot but some of the guards really added to the show. Caputo in particular became one of my favorite characters.
@CandieP
4 жыл бұрын
OMG I thought this final season would tell us what happened to Daya real baby father C.O Bennett.
@SendohJin
4 жыл бұрын
@@CandieP He's getting away with murder lol.
@Taylor-td7xd
4 жыл бұрын
Yes please do a video with some of the non-inmate characters...would love to see Caputo, Fig, and Luszchek, Ward, and Linda. I feel like their stories say a lot about redemption (the first three especially) and how people operate within messed up systems. I loved Fig and Caputo in Season 7...watching them try to come to terms with the fact that they had done some terrible things and see them try to make up for it. And Ward being torn down by the job when she genuinely cared and wanted to help the women. And then Linda who represents the corporate greed in the prison revolving door.
@DDios-ih9de
4 жыл бұрын
Candie P that dam coward
@aliciapearson3120
4 жыл бұрын
Artesian (McCullough) also massively changes despite only being there for a little bit
@marialikesmemes8517
4 жыл бұрын
The saddest thing is that we'll never know if all these people *actually* changed for the better. For example, we'll never know if Cindy stayed true to her promises. This is so debatable lol
@biancadesousa
4 жыл бұрын
Maria likes memes It’s realistic though
@TheBeastBandit
Жыл бұрын
We can only speculate as far as the series gives us. With the evidence provided to us by the show, we can only take its word that some people changed for the better, others for the worse, and then others not at all. Anything else is speculating on Shrodinger’s Cat.
@saraherbertwatson706
4 жыл бұрын
Doggett’s fate tore me up the most, because it resounded with me the most. I’m autistic and I always needed the extra time allowance on test. I was in that chair, watching people finish before me, getting scatter-brained with anxiety, and knowing beyond a doubt that I failed, even if I didn’t. The fact that she passed her GED and she never got to know this killed me. RIP
@skkms910
4 жыл бұрын
I have cried throughout this entire essay, just as I did on the closing arcs on the show. They really did something special. Your analysis was also something special.
@wuahwuahwhore
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I couldn’t finish watching the last season, I felt emotionally drained 💔
@nataliaquiroga4015
4 жыл бұрын
These videos help me understand how great the show actually was. Last couple of seasons dragged a little and things got sort of bad but now with perspective and these amazingly written videos is easier to see what the show was trying to and said in the end. Thanks!! This channel is awesome
@refianb
4 жыл бұрын
pennsatucky's death has GOT to be one of the saddest tv show deaths
@DonnaBrooks
7 ай бұрын
I was thinking that, too. It was certainly the most tragic one I can recall.
@viridimagoria1778
4 жыл бұрын
What was even more tragic about Lorna was that you could see the way her mind functions whenever a horrible truth is played out. It's especially notable in that scene where Vince tells her that Sterling died, you could just tell that something is not right in her head, and you could even tell that her brain is almost stopping all current events and is malfunctioning, almost as if her head is literally malfunctioning, desperately trying to erase and rewrite the truth that is being told to her.
@aestheticvaporwavewater2441
3 жыл бұрын
It’s so sad that Pennsatucky wasn’t even able to realize that she did pass her GED test :(
@hohobo8
4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else like genuinely enjoys these videos. I literally can’t get enough of these.
@elainaphelan1488
3 жыл бұрын
I so wish we got to see Boo's reaction to Pennsatucky's death
@ZeeManiaX
Жыл бұрын
And Coates. He probably ended up not knowing about her whereabouts
@LadyoftheReach
4 жыл бұрын
You know what... the acting from these actresses in this show is so underrated
@DonnaBrooks
7 ай бұрын
The acting on this show is certainly high calibre, but to be fair, they have great material to work with because the WRITING is so good! Lately I've been interested in Riverdale. I've been watching cast interviews, reaction vids, & video essays about the show. There were talented actors on that show, too, but the writing was SO shitty that even I could see it & I never watched a full episode except the finale. It made the actors look bad. One interviewer asked the cast if they ever get a script and have a, "WTF moment"? Camila Mendes replied, "All my lines are WTF moments!" LMAO!! The cast mocked their own show. People watched just to make fun of it. There was no continuity. The showrunner seemed to think that throwing out incohesive events or revelations for shock value was good storytelling, but then that event was immediately forgotten. It had no impact on the characters, their relationships, or the series as a whole & was never mentioned again. They squandered so much talent & such good chemistry between Camila Mendes & Lili Reinhart as Veronica & Betty, respectively. The girls even said they asked repeatedly for more scenes together. But instead of character-driven stories, the show's writer just seemed to want to act out his fantasies with Archie characters. Anyway, I'm not discounting the talent on OITNB. It's just that hearing the great character development & character-driven stories described in the OITNB reviews on this channel made me pissed again that the actors on Riverdale were in such a shit show. I feel cheated.
@Aldrius
4 жыл бұрын
I like a lot of what's being said in these videos, but holding the GED teacher accountable, even in part for Pensatucky's fate because he correctly diagnosed her with dyslexia just seems cruel to me.
@nailsarelife
4 жыл бұрын
If he had quit for no reason, I'd say they were right to hold him accountable. However, what they don't mention, is that Daya and her gang threatened him and his family. He felt he had no other choice. The person I hold responsible for Doggett's death is purely Daya. Although, Luscheck didn't help either by not requesting she have more time. However, Daya not only made the teacher quit, but she's the reason the drugs that killed P. Tuck were in the prison in the first place. So, while the message that you are accountable when you give someone hope and to not abandon them when they need you is there, the situation is quite different where the teacher is concerned.
@Aldrius
4 жыл бұрын
I mean in large part Doggett is responsible for Doggett's death. Daya could certainly be held responsible for a lot of the hellish stuff that was going on in the prison by that point. But even if he just quit for no reason that wouldn't make him responsible. It's unfortunate for Doggett, but it wouldn't be his fault that she (probably) killed herself. That's a lot to put on a person.
@BlackCampariBlue
4 жыл бұрын
@@nailsarelife I agree that it is Dayas fault that the GED teacher quit. If she wouldn't have smuggled drugs into prison, someone else would have though. That's at least what many seasons of OITNB taught us: the prisoners are merely puppets of the system. To make a change it has to begin with the system, not the symptoms of the system
@Scofields1828
4 жыл бұрын
Lornas storyline had me shook, very relatable. Of course I have never gone to the extent of her life but we can all relate to creating a false lifestyle to make ourselves look better than our present situation. Even just in small ways, because a lot of you people will be on social media pretending everything is great and you're dying on the inside
@nakih2693
4 жыл бұрын
Scofields1828 facts we have all been there I use to lie about my life a lot. I ended up losing a lot of people that left my life because they could not put up with my lies. Lorna story hit home because it’s true when everything becomes clear you are left alone with that lie. Very powerful story told with a good message.
@lilyryder4174
4 жыл бұрын
I cried so hard when Tucky died. It broke my heart so much.
@Shy__wolf
4 жыл бұрын
Lorna was mentally ill from the start which got worse. The fact you said she chose is wrong on so many levels. Chose your words carefully please.
@wubutterflies4156
4 жыл бұрын
My heart breaks for doggette. That poor girl has been beating down by life so low and for so long.
@thebilliespace
4 жыл бұрын
I almost cried when the inmates sang to Pennsatucky, and also when you can see her spirit saying goodbye after they take her body. It's like she found her freedom and doesn't regret it, even though there was so much more potential for her to improve.
@pampoovey6722
4 жыл бұрын
Gloria was my fave and I was so happy for her ending.
@DDios-ih9de
4 жыл бұрын
Blue Loon Gloria? Which one Was she Dayans mother?
@KarinaGarcia-nk7kv
4 жыл бұрын
Deborah O. No. Aleida is daya’s mother . Gloria is the kitchen cook in season 1-3 and leader of the latina clique in prison
@tiaislam645
3 жыл бұрын
@@DDios-ih9de the lady who got short hair. Like. A mother to daya
@fluorescentghost
4 жыл бұрын
I had to stop watching myself because I was tired of seeing characters I love so much just being dragged in misery from bad to worse with every minutes. I'm glad to find out how it ends with thoughtful commentary without having to suffer through the show. I understand that life in prison isn't rosy but it became too much for me.
@PrettyPinkPeacock
4 жыл бұрын
Catherine Chicoine totally agree, it’s realistic and gritty but it got too much for me to enjoy watching it anymore. This format fixes that perfectly.
@kel_xoxo
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly the same for me!
@DonnaBrooks
7 ай бұрын
I stopped watching, too. I just can no longer invest emotionally in characters until I know how their story ends. Then I can decide if I want to go back & watch it. To guard my own mental health, I usually watch stories about individual characters or couples, rather than full shows, & then want to know if they have a happy ending before getting too invested. I've been crushed or dragged around by TV writers too many times.
@loverrlee
4 жыл бұрын
What is crazy to me is that this show made me love a character I used to hate in Season 1. I cried when you talked about Pensituky. I used to not understand her and she made some very bad decisions in her life, but like all the characters in this show, their careful attention to highlight each characters backstories really makes you empathize with them. Even if they’ve done horrible, sometimes unspeakable things, you can still see them as human beings. I love this show so much.
@WiseAilbhean
4 жыл бұрын
Gloria’s situation is so typical among the West Indian/Carribbean cultures. And many times the parents never make it in the position to send for the kid and or wait too long and the kid is alien to them. Lot of these kids grow up to have serious abandonment issues and cannot find stable relationships. And I’m speaking from my own family experience on both sides x10. And abandonment issues can trickle down to the next generation. Lesson is... stick with your kids as long as possible.
@gibsonn2018
3 жыл бұрын
I know this is a year late but this happened to my own mother. My grandmother left her and my aunt in the Caribbean to get affairs in order here in the states. My mom was 13 when they reunited and their relationship was strained because of it.
@WiseAilbhean
3 жыл бұрын
@@gibsonn2018 That is so similar to a many members of my family. And another situation that happens is, the parents will send a kid to live with relatives in the states to get a better opportunity. Had a friend in the HS who came here at age 15 to live with her aunt, and the entire time they butted heads. Her aunt made her feel like she was doing her niece a favor and my friend felt like a guest the entire time. Didn’t feel like family in that household. It was a nice beautiful home but this 15yr old girl had to share a tiny room with her cousin, an 8yr girl.
@erikm8372
5 ай бұрын
When Tasty cries finding Pennsatucky dead was so raw..
@weownthisknight6766
4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I just love everything y'all have made. They are so well done and cover my favorite shit. 10/10 channel
@veronicapomar6010
4 жыл бұрын
Lorna has always been one of my favorite characters so her story has always been the saddest story to me.
@luci3819
4 жыл бұрын
orange is the new black put so much effort into so many characters and stories to all wrap up into one and I really think that's why it's such a phenomenal show.
@Shy__wolf
4 жыл бұрын
It's based on a true story
@RK-ep8qy
4 жыл бұрын
You guys always release the best videos when I have deadlines the next day
@abirdkilledmeh
4 жыл бұрын
Haha true! Breaks are important though. 20 minutes is perfect
@RK-ep8qy
4 жыл бұрын
abirdkilledmeh watching it now x
@AwesomeShelbiNicole
3 жыл бұрын
Pensatucky broke my heart😭 She was doing so good, turning her life around, and then Boom!
@VideoGamesAndTheWorld
4 жыл бұрын
Gloria and Blanca had a happy ending, Maria's ending was bittersweet, Pennsatucky's ending was so sad and I hated the one person who caused her death. Taystee's reaction to Pennsatucky's death was so damn heartbreaking. She lost Poussey and then Pennsatucky. She just can't have a moment of peace. I hated Black Cindy for betraying Taystee. Lorna and Red's endings were so heartbreaking.
@DonnaBrooks
7 ай бұрын
More than one person caused Pennsatucky''s death. Why didn't you name who you mean?
@lhfirex
4 жыл бұрын
Another really good character analysis that reminds me how good this show really was.
@dawnfizzle8771
4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad taystee wrote cindy daughter that letter ....she deserved that
@Karma-pj4xy
2 жыл бұрын
It was necessary for Cindy to take accountability I think, but it also bit Taystee in the ass when Cindy couldn't be located as a consequence of the letter
@samiracunningham9477
2 жыл бұрын
What did the letter say ?, an what did Cindy do to tayStee
@DonnaBrooks
7 ай бұрын
I'd also like to know what the letter said & what Cindy did to Taystee? @@Karma-pj4xy
@TheJohnnyCotts
2 ай бұрын
It was probably the best thing that could have happened to Cindy. She had been avoiding her problems all her life, and only caring about herself. In her last scene, showed she'd finally started to grow up and start being responsible. She's got a long road to haul, but she took the first steps.
@TheJohnnyCotts
2 ай бұрын
@@samiracunningham9477 The letter Taystee sent to Cindy's daughter, Monica, told her the truth about her family: that Cindy was her mother and not her older sister as she been told all her life. Cindy lied and said Taystee killed Piscatella during the riot, which got Taystee a life sentence.
@aaaaaabb88
4 жыл бұрын
yayyyyy was waiting for this!!! And could you please explain characters from How To Get Away With Murder?
@youdecidewhatmynameis3549
4 жыл бұрын
Wow. A channel which actually provides good character explanations and knows what they're talking about.
@Astro-yu5ty
4 жыл бұрын
Even though it absolutely broke my heart with some of them, i am so happy this show didn't give everyone a happy ending. This show is supposed to imitate real life, and real life is always sunshine and happiness. It gave me a more emotional tug for this show.
@johndoe-gh2or
2 жыл бұрын
Cindy betrayal costed a person life in prison. That can’t be forgiven
@timf7413
4 жыл бұрын
Pennsatucky's final season arc really hit me in the way that she had hope and self worth when she was finally working towards a goal to better herself only to be devastated when that was stripped from her despite her best efforts. I can so relate to that.
@littlefurballs
3 жыл бұрын
Pensatucky was a character I went from loathing to absolutely loving. There were so many times I wanted to go into the scene and give her a motherly hug and tell her that she’s worth so much. 😢 It hurt so much that she had to leave on such a hopeless state of mind. Her moments of joy were so very limited, but I was hopeful that bc she’s so young, she would have other opportunities. 💕 Even though she’s a fictional character, I like to imagine that she’s up in heaven no longer suffering. She’s an angel (just like she was in the Christmas episode)
@Keevthe8thLordunderChristJesus
4 жыл бұрын
seemed like this show was determined to give every character but Piper a sad ending.
@DonnaBrooks
7 ай бұрын
Wasn't there at least one other character that had a happy ending? I saw a few comments that said they are glad that so-and-so had a happy ending.
@TheJohnnyCotts
2 ай бұрын
@@DonnaBrooks Blanca. She managed to get her conviction overturned, got freed, and reunited with her boyfriend.
@treehouse318
4 жыл бұрын
this was great. i learned so much about myself in being a fan of the show, and these videos feel like they're continuing my education. thank you.🥰
@leeahnamiller8624
3 жыл бұрын
Doggett had me crying. I was sad when she OD’d but to find out she passed her test after the fact, got me crying 😭
@jemimajust827
4 жыл бұрын
Tiffanys death was the absolute worst. Especially after she transitioned from being a mad Christian to a loving accepting person, becoming friends with Boo and learning about different points of view. It broke my heart when Tasty found out she'd actually passed the GED too.
@shazebrothers3
4 жыл бұрын
I've never watched this series and never can, because just watching the Take's character ending analysis has me crying...
@ForPetesake552
3 жыл бұрын
I’m a black man whom loved this show. I initially thought it might be more geared just towards women at first, but that was squashed quickly after I saw that this is literally one of the greatest series to ever grace a television. The actresses/actors, the direction, the writers, the story telling is some of the best there is. I feel this is the perfect example of how to tell very diverse stories without stepping on anyone’s toes. I can’t say enough great things about this series. In my top 5 adult shows.
@jaimebanks8377
2 жыл бұрын
The "splintering in the mind" of Lorna described in the video is called dissociation. The character clearly suffers from Borderline Personality Disorder. Dissociation is a common tactic for surviving extremely adverse emotional experiences in individuals with BPD and many other forms of mental illness. I say all of this as an individual who is recovering from BPD, and studies psychology in college. I intend to be a psychologist within the next several years. These videos contain brilliantly accurate perceptions and explanations of the characters presented, by the way! I am very impressed.
@TishyRose
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing information about BPD to help people understand more. They didn’t really explain what was going on with Lorna well at all in this video, like you said she clearly dissociates and it’s not something she chooses to do, it is linked to her mental illness and mental illness isn’t a choice. I like The Take a lot but they really didn’t word things well here, made it seem like it’s Lorna choosing to cope poorly when that’s not what’s happening at all, sort of made me uncomfortable the way they kind of blamed her and made it sound like she just wasn’t trying hard enough. To me they made it sound like she only cared about herself since she chose to ignore reality and ignore the people reaching out to her when that’s absolutely not the case at all, people don’t choose to dissociate or experience other mental perception changes because they want to, it happens because they aren’t well and they won’t get better without treatment for their problems it’s not just a case of choosing to snap out of it. I don’t like the way they kept saying she chose what happened to her in the end, you can’t make a choice over something you can’t control. I agree with you that she has BPD, it makes total sense for her character. BPD is so stigmatised and it’s not an easy thing to live with, it can be very frustrating and painful. It’s nice to hear you’ve got a positive goal ahead of you because all too often people with BPD get told things like they can’t ever get better and it can be very hard to see a future for yourself and keep working towards it when people around you can treat you so harshly for exhibiting symptoms and treat you like you’re a bad person, broken or worthless just because you have struggles that other people don’t have. I’m Autistic and ADHD and I think it’s really important for neurodiverse people of all kinds to advocate for each other and try to connect through the struggles we share and remind each other that we aren’t alone and we aren’t bad people, we’re just trying to live as best we can, same as anyone else. Hope you find happiness in your studies and that in the future you feel secure and in control of your BPD and you have people who support you and love you :)
@binarystar300
4 жыл бұрын
I still find Maria branding Piper with a swastika extremely sick and unforgivable
@MethuselahWinter
3 жыл бұрын
Piper shouldn’t have aligned with a bunch of Nazis then. That was beyond stupid and really low. Don’t wanna be branded a Nazi then don’t be a fucking Nazi.
@f.d.5173
4 жыл бұрын
I love how ScreenPrism/The Take are just full on psychologists now. They analyze everything so well
@sorrowsuperstar10
4 жыл бұрын
they need to make a spin off series of OITNB
@rosamariia1674
4 жыл бұрын
Pennsatuckys story breaks my heart..she grew as a person so much and she had to deal with so much pain. I dont cry easily but that just gets me
@itsprettyiris1025
4 жыл бұрын
I’m still mad that tiffany died she had changed so much but the. The ending was like people don’t change
@flatfacedcat
4 жыл бұрын
Pennsatucky's end is very real to me. It was realized to my sister and our whole family that she wasn't uncaring about school, she was dyslexic. My sister dropped out of high school because despite being diagnosed as dyslexic, the school would not allow her the time she needed to take tests. She "failed" because she couldn't finish, despite that her answers up to wherever she finished are correct and thoughtful. I still feel rage toward that system of authority figures who condemned her to fail. They were also super racist and said that she SHOULD drop out and be what she's "meant to be", and work somewhere "degrading" like at a supermarket. Dumb fucks couldn't even tell she's Mexican and not Indian, which was the slant of their racist "joke" toward my sister.
@yunhyeong4220
4 жыл бұрын
I was really hoping they wouldn't show the diploma because every time I see that I just burst in to tears because she passed 😭
@Nymira
4 жыл бұрын
I cried so hard to Tiffany can’t believe she’s the same character I hated in the first season, good bye OITNB ♥️
@jameshedrick4490
Жыл бұрын
Tiffany had a truly miserable life. The poverty she grew up in, as well as abuse and neglect by both parents from a young age only to be followed by more emotional and sexual abuse throughout her life made her believe she was trash and didn't deserve love or respect. Her suicide was a tragic end to a tragic and miserable existence. It's impossible not to feel empathy and compassion for her watching it.
@palaciospalacios9319
4 жыл бұрын
Hoping Taryn Manning gets an emmy nomination
@mollyfoxxx
4 жыл бұрын
Palacios Palacios I hope she also gets help for the mental health issues she has going on. It was scary to see them play out coinciding with the release of the final season.
@jessimarie4413
4 жыл бұрын
Yessss!
@DonnaBrooks
7 ай бұрын
Did she? Who won that year?
@rubyeaston9373
4 жыл бұрын
i guess sleep can wait
@nicolespearl
4 жыл бұрын
“They wanted brand names, I gave them brand names. Who’s the victim” “Gucci” “Fuck your gucci” I scream every time 😭😂
@theserialbunny424
4 жыл бұрын
Lornas story was horrible but it was her destiny cause everybody takes mental health for granted
@elcidabiera9751
4 жыл бұрын
oh my god
@olyrhys8724
4 жыл бұрын
This show hit me right in the feels and stuck the landing beautifully. Complex, uncompromising and layered - best ending since The Wire
@valalava1
4 жыл бұрын
I thought this was gonna be the last part but im so glad there's another one on the way
@vivianabasto1347
4 жыл бұрын
Omg whatt? What do you know?
@atl5557
4 жыл бұрын
It is the last season
@jiayima4905
4 жыл бұрын
Such a great breakdown!! Please do Fleabag, such a great show, so many things to pull apart
@ritavb
6 күн бұрын
i always come back to these videos, they're the best i've ever seen about these characters. truly incredible. wish you'd do the rest of the characters :(
@warmarmot1
4 жыл бұрын
Not relevant to this video, but have you ever done an analysis on the Sailor Moon characters? I might be the only one interested in that, but I think that would be cool.
@winstoncrumb6591
4 жыл бұрын
ahh!! there is soo much unpacking to be done with sailor moon characters, especially some of the villains and outer soldiers!!
@venus_envy
4 жыл бұрын
I would watch that.
@nl9833
4 жыл бұрын
Tbh just look up Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Same difference
@warmarmot1
4 жыл бұрын
@@nl9833 As a fan of both, I don't see the similarities? The boys in ninja turtles were raised and trained as fighters knowing that they were different and had a specific purpose that they lived for. The sailor scouts only find out about their abilities in a desperate moment. They didn't think they could do anything but then realize they have at least some power to help things.
@sadbean4656
3 жыл бұрын
Im very conflicted about OITNB because to me personally the saddest character ending is the lady who most likely died in the desert trying to get back to America for her kids.
@Scofields1828
4 жыл бұрын
Cindy's anxiety and depression is very relatable though, Taystee is literally the best character (aside from Alex) so I was devastated that Taystee was betrayed :( but unfortunately taystee really was meant to be a tool to help everyone in her existence
@kate-xj5zd
4 жыл бұрын
I still love cindy so much.. same kinda thing happend to me .. like i lied to a friend and in return she completely ruined my life im not saying cindys life was ruined but they both needed help and cindy just made a mistake out of fear she never intended to hurt tayste.. life just does that sometimes Anxiety and depression takes over you have no idea who you hurt . And i hate how much hate cindy got at the end from the veiwers..
@vivekmenon795
4 жыл бұрын
YO PLEASE BRING BACK THIS SERIES! And do it with Caputo, Fig, Healy, Red, Luschek, Suzanne, Freida, Sophia, Blanca so many more!
@jadziawynter9241
4 жыл бұрын
Please do character studies on the Chilling Adventures of Sabrina and Mean Girls
@mariacarolina508
4 жыл бұрын
Yes please!
@sannajakosson7498
4 жыл бұрын
still checking in now and then waiting for part 3
@Heatherlasweet
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Where’s the next part of this???
@Carito680
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I didn’t expect such in depth analysis of each character and even life advice from this video. Of course I love OITNB but I also wanna show my appreciation to these three videos. Thank you for making them!
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