@@decrazygaming1738 Uruks arent. the original Orcs from the first dark lord morgoth is the ones that used corrupted elves, uruks are made from vats, which is like a pool of muck that they just pull them out of
@alexcopin6522
11 ай бұрын
@@amirhaikal6672 The Uruk-hai are just another type of orcs, not created by Saruman by any means in the books. All orcs comes from the corrupted elves of Morgoth
@Longshanks1690
Жыл бұрын
“How do I learn to come back from the grave?” Hope Talion has enough energy in his meter to be able to cast Raise Dead on your corpse.
@decrazygaming1738
Жыл бұрын
Truuuu
@anyderrosek9272
10 ай бұрын
Not a desirable fate but you do come back from the grave as he said
@michasokoowski6651
10 ай бұрын
I wish there was a possibility of special death defying orcs spawning randomly and ambush you saying something suggesting that they used to be just a rabble.
@connorlaurings6367
9 ай бұрын
Or somehow come back after getting decapitated
@Lux_the_Lost
9 ай бұрын
Alternatively, just be really, really, REALLY lucky.
@mobgabriel1767
2 ай бұрын
"because rats are in league with elves" Celebrimbor:he knows too much
@LordTyph
Ай бұрын
Talion: What was that? Celebrimbor: It is nothing, partner. However, if it would not burden you heavilly, I have a request i would ask of you...
@batcow3152
18 күн бұрын
Talion! Execute him, quickly!
@reeceshugrue6167
15 күн бұрын
NEVER TRUST AN ELF!
@watcherwraith007
Жыл бұрын
Mwanwhile Talion, listening to all this: some of my orcs are clever. Others...not so much. Celebrimbor: They have their uses.
@Sharp931
11 ай бұрын
Celebrimbor, the spectral rat
@thatboyakira4202
Ай бұрын
I can totally see this dialogue happening. A shame it doesn't happen with Isildur
@Picmanreborn
21 күн бұрын
💀💀💀💀
@Elriuhilu
9 ай бұрын
I really like how these games really drove the point home that orcs aren't just brainless monsters but more like savage barbarians. They're still people with feelings even though they're all deformed and menacing.
@wolfrainexxx
9 ай бұрын
Orks aren't people. Stop being a racist, and trying to humanize them. Comparing an Ork to a human isn't a compliment for an Ork, anymore than comparing a Gorilla to a Monkey.
@Catwhisper175
5 ай бұрын
They have more humanity in them in the books a little than in the movies
@skell6134
5 ай бұрын
@@Catwhisper175 So this game got them somewhere more in between of that
@Nyghtking
5 ай бұрын
They might not be entirely smart but they definitely aren't dumb.
@RelativelyBest
4 ай бұрын
I mean, we always knew they were able to speak, follow orders, strategize and think independently. ("What about their legs? We can still eat those, right?") And I imagine you have to be at least sorta cunning just to survive as an orc. It's just that they're a bunch of ruthless thugs with no concept of kindness or mercy.
@markuscaesar670
10 ай бұрын
I love the fact that the Orcs recognize Talion as the Bright Lord, not Celebrimbor. Helps explain the fact that even tho it was Celebrimbor who “recruited” them, they remain loyal to Talion after Celebrimbor is absorbed into Sauron
@Guru_1092
9 ай бұрын
Spoilers dude wtf.
@Reittenkruez
9 ай бұрын
@@Guru_1092The game is over 5 years old. You chose to click on a video about it, and chose to read the comments. The only one at fault for being spoiled is you.
@Rhewin
9 ай бұрын
@@Guru_1092 “oh hey, here’s a video about a 5-year-old game I haven’t finished. Better read the comments. I’m sure no one will be talking about the story they all beat half a decade ago.” 🙄
@Bin.Ballen
9 ай бұрын
@@Guru_1092 the game was made in 2016. That’s a you problem don’t expect a spoiler, free Internet for everything that’s years old crybaby.
@Bin.Ballen
9 ай бұрын
Everybody doesn’t actually see celebrate him bore only certain people can see him they just know that he refers to himself as the bright Lord but only like 12 people I think overall have ever seen him😂
@KiryuMythic
10 ай бұрын
I think they just roasted the crappy players by basically saying "imagine how weak you must be to be coming back all the time"
@decrazygaming1738
9 ай бұрын
Maybe
@Bin.Ballen
9 ай бұрын
That wasn’t the point of that statement
@MazaAzi
9 ай бұрын
Too be far, letting yourself be killed not only upgrates the loot but also gets some pretty fun and interesting Orc combos Like the story of the slave that ended up betraying literally everyone he ever served, including me twice.
@hazeltree7738
9 күн бұрын
To elaborate on what the other person said (About nine months late lol) not including quests, not much happens in the game if you don't die If you don't die your orcs never fight any enemies, camps are never taken over, rivalries are never formed, etc. Sorta have to die to make anything happen
@amir2ali0
Жыл бұрын
Well orcs are right elfs are in league with rats (celebrimbor betrayal)
@decrazygaming1738
Жыл бұрын
Good one😂😂😂
@NonSoSmartPerson
7 ай бұрын
And the female elf
@sergeant_cheese
Ай бұрын
@@NonSoSmartPerson the she elf
@therighttrousers343
28 күн бұрын
@@sergeant_cheese*nods* ...the shelf.
@sergeant_cheese
28 күн бұрын
@@therighttrousers343 orc- the elf on the shelf. orc 2 - wait the elf is on a she elf. thats weird
@Longshanks1690
Жыл бұрын
Well, Talion did have men to order around when he could summon Gondorians to aid him. Then the orcs killed them all.
@Shadow30.
Жыл бұрын
So he figured that they are too weak for mordor
@engel0697
11 ай бұрын
@@Shadow30. the right anwer is orcs are disposable. Trained humans are hard to get
@mastertubbily1812
10 ай бұрын
@@engel0697and that they’re too weak for Mordor
@captainpep3
10 ай бұрын
@@engel0697and Talion has no love for orca, he doesn’t care if they die (well, kind of. He does sort of grow an attachment to his orcs in a way, just not the same he would with humans)
@Bin.Ballen
9 ай бұрын
@@mastertubbily1812 but that’s simply an accurate men in the lore of all middle earth base things are more skeleton orcs, and can likely pass them in combat. If they had equal numbers army of men would likely win that’s why, even though it works outnumbered all of mankind during the dark ages, they still survive because they were better
@Kharnix
11 ай бұрын
"When do we learn how to walk out the grave?" Just become a captain and kill the gravewalker a few times and you gain the ability to cheat death too. Not infinitely of course, but I've had one orc come back as many times as cats got lives once so it got to count for something at least.
@drawnwriter5543
10 ай бұрын
thats not so much coming back as it Surviving on the brink. (unless the game actually say that they do indeed die and resurrect somewhere i havent seen yet) after all you see most titles say defied death or cheated death always something that eludes to surviving. never resurrected or undead things that would Elude to them dying and then coming back.
@zerochaotics1135
10 ай бұрын
I recently beat shadow of mordor, having gone back to play the first and finding a lot of systems better such as executions, wrath, and dominant being on hit streak and combo instead of an arbitrary bar much better (it made combat feel fluid but it often did target the wrong urruk which I'm glad SOW improved), and my nemesis for the whole game ended up being the first urruk I killed gûb the weak... He was at the final battle and came back 12 times. It was disappointing
@helpfulDeathgod
10 ай бұрын
@@drawnwriter5543 There is a chance that one of the big guys can come back from Literal Death when you behead them. It's honestly the worst kind of Rival you can get because now you just have to hope to god that death will actually _take_ the next time you beat them...
@JackSilver1410
9 ай бұрын
Just need to get lucky. You gotta take an Uruk's head clean off to keep him down. Works every time. Well, most times, I think...
@destroyercreater98
9 ай бұрын
@@zerochaotics1135yeah in mordor the system was a little better with stuff being over hit streaks instead of a bar. But simultaneously once you were past the start. Everything dies comedically fast. Especially if you got good runes with your bow. Your bow basically becomes a nuke launcher that takes 8 easy kills to be ready again.
@apocratos0174
9 ай бұрын
You know a game is legendary when even after years from its launch you can still be discoverying good things about it
@decrazygaming1738
9 ай бұрын
Preach it!!
@lexsamreeth8724
10 ай бұрын
Would have prefered it if they said "Well that's how the vats work, innit? You die, you go in the vat, you come back out. Only difference is the Bright Lord remembers everything."
@voldlifilm
10 ай бұрын
No no, he has a point. Because there have been orcs I've put down for good that somehow came back. I want to know how they did that too.
@butchbabytoaster
Ай бұрын
Clearly, you have a lot to learn about The Machine!
@thebaseandtriflingcreature174
Ай бұрын
they just really really hate you
@wjzav1971
9 ай бұрын
Orcs wondering how to walk out of a grave after me killing the same Orc captain three times in a row and he STILL comes back later.
@jestersvoice9692
9 ай бұрын
"How long until we learn to walk back from the grave" - In my game an orc said this and later the same day he died..... He came back later with his jead sewn back on.
@finnover9781
Жыл бұрын
Actually, Talion *can* do something about rats (read. drain life from them)
@MarkNapalmov
Жыл бұрын
I imagine him running around the fort draining rats for them only to come back week later.
@Alexalmo
8 ай бұрын
If the Uruks started telling that joke about elves and rats around dwarves, they would become eternal allies overnight
@xaldrortenderofthevats8948
9 ай бұрын
"Rats are in league with the elves" yes-yes, orc-glob, rats are definitely with elf-elves.
@DeathMessenger1988
9 ай бұрын
Orcs: Cause the rats are in league with the Elves! Eldar and Skaven: *SAY THAT AGAIN! I DOUBLE FUCKING DARE YOU!*
@DwarfDaddy
9 ай бұрын
*laughs in Dawi*
@TheGoodLuc
11 күн бұрын
@@DwarfDaddy Good, it will only make some grudging better?
@david5310
9 ай бұрын
if the bright lord is a man is the dark lord an uruk? -ukbuk hothead, probably
@decrazygaming1738
9 ай бұрын
😂
@Newtinhoow26
2 ай бұрын
The comparison between elves and rats was funny as hell for an orc😂
@alejman2012
9 ай бұрын
Well the orcs from the lord of the rings are oddly smart.
@decrazygaming1738
9 ай бұрын
Yep!
@jacobmulligan3832
Ай бұрын
this game gave so much charecter to the walking warmachines of the films
@vestige1671
Ай бұрын
I love the subtle foreshadowing in the rats comment.
@swolie
10 ай бұрын
RATS ARE IN LEAGUE WITH ELVES ! That's a new one, I like it alot
@Aegir721
9 ай бұрын
Listening to the orca reminds me of all the conspiracy theories that fly around in a construction job lunch room
@randomrants148
10 ай бұрын
I loved how the orcs, uruk, olog think the bright lord is a vastly intelligence god man. Me as a Bright Lord - "I don't know what the fucking I am doing half the time but it's working." Me wearing the mask to the brutes "See my brilliant plan had worked." Basically, like lord ainz from overlord.
@rebelion-ghost2311
Ай бұрын
“How do I learn to come back from the grave?” that one captain that just refuses to stay death and constantly comes back to ambush you, betray you or taunt you. "Just have enough rage and hatred for somebody"
@nerd-mask723
9 ай бұрын
Okay but serious question now: when Talion dies and respawns, what happens with his corpse? Like when he returns, is that the same body, or does the curse or Celebrimbor create a new one for him? If so, does his last body cease to exist shortly after his death, or is there a pit somewhere, that's stacked full with Talion-corpses discarded by the orcs?
@David_Fellner
8 ай бұрын
The orcs and/or rats probably eat his bodies. Holy shit, I just realized that Talion is Kenny from South Park! So mysterious...
@MILDMONSTER1234
8 ай бұрын
I jsut assumed the body melts like a vampire
@gowanlore2434
4 ай бұрын
I always thought it reconstituted after a while like the iron giant.
@lonerimortal8
22 күн бұрын
"Just watch you back and you won't need to come back From The grave" Great line coming from a Ork 😂
@emmanuelgonzalez5599
Ай бұрын
The first 2 had the same energy as that one meme: "If your leg gets cut off, will it hurt?" 😂
@IStealButterdToast
Ай бұрын
One of the best things about playing shadow of mordor and war is just listening to the orc banter
@enomisv9830
8 ай бұрын
This is making me wasn't to pick up and play through shadow of war again.
@Nicolai-Syn
Ай бұрын
"When do we learn how to walk out of the grave" Says the Uruk who took 15 attempts to kill because his ass wouldn't stay in the ground, so I had to recruit him out of respect.
@spartanx9293
9 ай бұрын
You don't really need to worry about it Lord of the rings has an afterlife or if you're an elf you just keep coming back
@Bin.Ballen
9 ай бұрын
That’s not exactly accurate the main character comes back because he’s a wraith making him essentially Unkillable permanently. Elves can’t be killed and vanquished. They are not anuiar
@Esowolf
Жыл бұрын
"How do i learn how to walk back from the grave?" That's the neat part, you don't lol. Though these orcs have valid points!
@MarkNapalmov
Жыл бұрын
Become a necromancer.
@levioliveira7379
11 ай бұрын
The captains can do some real crazy comebacks when they feel like it
@AverySadBear
Ай бұрын
Ive definitly had 1 or two orcs walk out of the grave at me.
@matodragonespor5000
16 күн бұрын
Orc: How do I learn to come back from the grave? That Orc that always return despite being stabed, burned, shot and even decapitated: Wanna learn?
@Gr3nadgr3gory
10 ай бұрын
They also have logical answers.
@MajinObama
9 ай бұрын
„Simple. He only likes those from the British Isles!“
@leilaclarridge5807
Ай бұрын
Talion: I do suppose I could bring in cats to deal with the rats. Uruk: Then why not have the Caragors do that? Talion: Do you not starve them on purpose to make them more aggressive? Uruk: Right, forgot about that.
@jaydeleon8094
10 ай бұрын
missed "from the dead" at the end there
@decrazygaming1738
Жыл бұрын
Interesting..
@lordsolaire6202
Жыл бұрын
Elves are rats, he is right.
@watcherwraith007
Жыл бұрын
@@lordsolaire6202some of them
@Kyranwyatt
4 ай бұрын
"all im saying is if rings of power are the key to winning wars, why dont we all have one"
@randomrants148
Ай бұрын
Me as the bright lord telling “the reason I am not dealing with rats is because I can see through their eyes and I have thought about using rats as spies but I don’t want to put you Uruks out of the fun.”
@youdonthavetoknowsssh8154
3 ай бұрын
Sometimes i hear they talk shit about Ratbag and i love it.
@DiZ_490
2 ай бұрын
Man I need to replay this game. It was so good
@decrazygaming1738
2 ай бұрын
Yep!
@decrazygaming1738
2 ай бұрын
I need to start playing it again too
@joealred4312
9 күн бұрын
The orc who asks about them coming back from the dead needs to meet zog the eternal
@mrschizo2837
10 ай бұрын
When do you learn to come back? Get promoted. That's a bit finnicky sometimes though.
@Do_You_Like_Beans
Ай бұрын
one orc came back more than 3 times for me he just would not stay dead
@nicholasnguyen5181
11 ай бұрын
Wow XD. This was cool
@aemarsy
8 ай бұрын
That miserable glob hit hard then top aaa games 😂😂
@vivaelgato4541
9 ай бұрын
Weren't Goblins and Orcs once Elves and Humans that were twisted by dark forces?
@decrazygaming1738
9 ай бұрын
I know that orcs and uruks came from elves
@vivaelgato4541
9 ай бұрын
@@decrazygaming1738 lol So then they are rats! 🤣
@Bin.Ballen
9 ай бұрын
Originally they were supposed to be created by morgoroth himself, but tolkien is a bad writer so now they’re corrupted owls, which still doesn’t make sense since orcs can number any race of middle earth as they win through power in numbers, never scale as every other race of the middle earth can beat them in combat as their twisted creatures
@vivaelgato4541
9 ай бұрын
@@Bin.Ballen Did not know about the owl thing. Very interesting. As a kid, when watching the Rankin/Bass cartoon, Goblin/Orc was interchangeable. I never quite understood it. About the time the LOTR live action came out, people (older people that read the books and people at the Games Workshop, mostly) informed me that Goblins used to be Elves and that Orcs were once Human but were corrupted but Sauron's dark mojo. Uruk-hai don't matter as they were strictly made up for the movie. I read the LOTR/Hobbit books after the first movie dropped but they explain nothing, not that they have to I guess, I think the Hobbit is way better then all three LOTR books BTW. My older sister told me about his other books like the Silmarillion, which I had trouble reading and lost interest like a quarter of the way in. My sister told me that those stories were "technically" never finish but that his (Tolkien's) son finished them based on loose notes and word of mouth stories his father passed down to him. Now, obviously many people have been lying to me but I suppose if any of that's true then one can't take the "owl" origin or proper "scaling" as canon either "if" Tolkien never officially finish his work in progress or it's origins. Playing with ideas doesn't necessarily make them official...
@quicktrickgang9836
Ай бұрын
the other day i had an orc betray me and when i won the fight he regretted it and apologized
@cheese2848
24 күн бұрын
Had a Necromancer Olog die and i was about to shame my captain who killed him cause obviously i wanted him and the mf ressurected himself infront of my eyes ready for round 2, hes now my Bodyguard.
Me at 0:34 after one of my orcs came back after I killed him at least 5 times: *AHEM*
@moderngamer1858
12 күн бұрын
That’s probably some ( URUK ) named Snafu or Bagga lmao 😂
@robfus
10 ай бұрын
Actually...yes
@iveyyewitt1621
9 ай бұрын
The Shadow Orcs were almost as funny as the thugs in the Arkham games. Almost.
@decrazygaming1738
9 ай бұрын
In my opinion no other npc can touch orcs
@Bin.Ballen
9 ай бұрын
I see they are very much equal, if works not better, simply because orcs have special dialogue in between each or if that is a captain there’s almost never phrase, repeated almost and some of them are especially funny by thugs, and Gotham have very scripted funny parts like their parts of the game where you have to encounter them versus works, for you can go to the whole five years without meeting a certain type of work and Random we run into him now and I will be hilarious still that can’t happen in Arkham
@StuttaStuck
2 ай бұрын
I wish the dialogue would pick up the conversations orcs have.
@TheKlink
2 ай бұрын
rats are meat. Eat the rats and then meat'll be back on the menu.
@mitsu.B
Ай бұрын
Rwhy won't he do anything about rats? Because they're good health sources
@esteemedyams
27 күн бұрын
I'm generally not very fond of games made from books and/or movies but these games were really, really fun to play, even if the story kinda shits all over the source material sometimes.
@The-Full-180
9 ай бұрын
"if the bright lord is a man why does he have such a nice rack?"
@niydfass1060
Ай бұрын
rats do N OT have big ears
@Goremejy
20 күн бұрын
This is the only game I have ever returned. Played for it maybe one day and gave up when it just felt like glorified DLC for the previous game
@decrazygaming1738
19 күн бұрын
You should have gave it a chance
@Shady_Fungus
9 ай бұрын
Not to sound racist but they are a lot smarter than a lot of stories made them out to be.
@decrazygaming1738
9 ай бұрын
You are right
@msonisama8656
Ай бұрын
wb did a disservice to the whole gaming industry by patenting this system
@DarkLordSauronrocks
Жыл бұрын
Will you be playing final fantasy 16
@decrazygaming1738
Жыл бұрын
No I never played those games
@alexkaen1701
Ай бұрын
They're not monsters, just uneducated, propagandized, militarized and brutalized. In Tolkien's world, Orcs can be entirely redeemed, but this game made them a lot more interesting as characters.
@thepitbullnamedcupcake
10 ай бұрын
Is this a dlc? I've never seen a orc on a tower structure yet alone heard this dialog
@Youngblood457
Ай бұрын
Man, too bad the company pulled a dick move and copyrighted the nemesis system
@dankdaze42069
11 ай бұрын
Imagine if games like these got AAA game studio Cash put into them
@h.a.9880
11 ай бұрын
The dialogue is great, but these voices just don't sound orcish to me.
@decrazygaming1738
11 ай бұрын
I kinda agree with you....but there are lots of orc voices...some sound more orcish than others
@randomrants148
10 ай бұрын
Me: "Humans don't comeback from death like you orcs and I am cruse to come back every time I die. So, I never die. I got to tell immortally sucks we human protect everything we love we don't want to have anything happened to our loved ones and that is the reason we human fight. Well, most of the time we do fight to protect our loved ones but some of us have a different reason behind it. I tried my best to protect my wife and my daughter until the cruse won't let me die that memory kept me going and if I can't protect what I lost I will take my revenge who took it!"
@Noname-gm5om
3 ай бұрын
Rats are indeed in league with elves ask celebrimbor and Elterial
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