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@AmongRevenants
3 ай бұрын
Frog farms and the must do meta to keep up... reminds me of what Blizz did to SoD P3 with incursions and princess runs. Blizz killed the fun factor of SoD... then, in the middle of a season. Hit the players with a entire phase drought. Weeks and weeks of drought in the middle of a pre-planned season...seems contrived.
@alexistaylor969
3 ай бұрын
now those Alliance sissies can bubble hearth away from world PvP twice as often lmao. Got to remember that the Devs that still actually play the game play Paladins and Mages.
@CaiRobinson
3 ай бұрын
mop remix was just not sold to us as massive grind for bronze to upgrade. In fact it was sold as the opposite.
@TDR-0484
3 ай бұрын
Why do you need to upgrade? Ilvl 342 is plenty high to clear raids at, just spend the bronze you make on cosmetics? Pretty simple solution bud
@mothman84
3 ай бұрын
@CaiRobinson True. Much of the legitimate frustration (speaking as someone who is hugely disappointed) comes from false advertising, misplaced expectations.
@kalasmournrex1470
3 ай бұрын
@@TDR-0484maybe as a healer. Don’t try tanking like that
@someguy3508
3 ай бұрын
@@TDR-0484maybe he likes to have fun in a fun game mode that was supposed to be fun. Wtf do you mean why you need to upgrade? To feel OP and clear shit fast. That's the whole point of the mode
@jinxfm5049
3 ай бұрын
It wasn't sold to us at all, it's a side game, one of many included in a standard sub, it's awesome. I edited the word free out of this because podantic people just argued about it, petty very petty.
@Olafr_Warrior
3 ай бұрын
The cloaks were never what made froggers broken. It was the sheer amount of bronze they received from doing the farm. If someone spent enough time frogging, they would have maxed out their gear. Which means rolling back their cloak was a slap on the wrist
@mogalixir
3 ай бұрын
Exactly. 90% of people don’t even understand how the mode works.
@ronie619linas
3 ай бұрын
If you've fully upgraded your gear, you'd realise that cloak is absolutely what matters the most in this mode. My cloak gives around half of my entire stats if not more and I'm fully upgraded. When everyone catches up in gear, you'd realise that you'll never catch up to a frogger's cloak that gives 200k stamina and 30k mainstat.
@updownanarchy5796
3 ай бұрын
So it was reported the frogs did not drop alot of bronze it was the threads they were farming which lead to them clearing raids and hc raids which lead to faster bronze regardless the event is for getting mogs and mounts that are probably going away for good either in the ww or after honestly imo all old content should be done like this atleast a cycle because we are all over farming old content it's boring af and not super rewarding they could remove Timewalking and just do timerunner events that last a month people would be happy he'll even make it were you could just have a timerrunner main time walking sucks imo and this version of time walking is way better and more rewarding
@vauzh1581
3 ай бұрын
Salt
@lizzardentertainment3846
3 ай бұрын
And the only way it affected your progress that instead of playing the game, finishing campaign and spamming dungeons for tons of thread and bronze you spent your time whining on forums. Otherwise they just made the game better by highlighting the issues. In the end everybody got their free 1st tier upgrade by handing out 40k bronze to max level characters.
@Banjogoose
3 ай бұрын
The anger at Remix is confusing to me. We're literally 20% into the event and people are angry they aren't 1 shotting raids. I've been having a blast with the even and am grateful Blizz created the game mode for us to have fun waiting for WW
@bobyjoe9099
3 ай бұрын
Probably because they shouldn't have framed it as being super op and being crazy if they were going to be nerfing everything and making you feel worse and worse.
@stephanieking8299
3 ай бұрын
People aren’t one shotting bosses? I did all the heroic raids back to back last night in pugs and it maybe took an hour to clear all of them. I don’t even play that much but I feel like I’ve almost done all the content.
@pawsen9
3 ай бұрын
Spot on @@bobyjoe9099
@Sheriff_K
3 ай бұрын
Cloaks not being account-wide really hurts the league and the replayability of it imo.. You're basically penalized for playing alts.
@DerNesor
3 ай бұрын
After preach I understand why they want it to be super silly high end fun. It's just another camp of players. I am not part of those, I hate it when another player just speedruns content while I might as well go afk...
@rjp4213
3 ай бұрын
i got to max ilvl early, and enjoy helping others clear heroics
@Scuuurbs
3 ай бұрын
Real
@sneakypeaky769
3 ай бұрын
Based ♥️
@Queldonus
3 ай бұрын
I’m sitting here feeling galaxy brain that I’ve been looking at MoP remix as a way to pass the time and get transmogs. All the salt has made it very clear that I don’t need to set foot in the raids at all. I understand why people that want that kind of challenge would be angry at the changes, but for what I’m wanting out of the event, it’s been fun. Remember: gear is seasonal, transmog is forever.
@cracklingice
3 ай бұрын
Not sure how much of it is the changes (well at least 50% of it is from the timerunning mastery buff), but doing the heroic world tour and one dungeon and one scenario for the dailies is worth like 120 thousand bronze a day. It's not difficult either.
@joshs5545
3 ай бұрын
I think one of the biggest issues with Remix is that they only tested it in a single weekend, and did not change ANYTHING between the PTR and actual event, we told them in the PTR that the Frog Farm WAS A THING and it wasn't addressed... as was MANY other bugs that were said in the PTR weekend BUT were still there in live... So... Think Blizz needs to hire more people to listen to feedback and communicate that to devs.
@ryulis7993
3 ай бұрын
No no, they did change some things. Like cloak not being account wide, nerfing abilities, tinker gems etc etc. So they have nerfed us since PTR
@Subject_Keter
3 ай бұрын
They fired the people that would of found that stuff out.. and i am going to guess the rest are like that one DPS you think it a bot but really shy or scared of talking.
@shadowdragon8168
3 ай бұрын
They did change some stuff, they changed the stuff that no one asked to be changed. In typical blizzard fashion, they ignore the actual problems, and find problems in things that aren't actual problems.
@wm-wl8ws
3 ай бұрын
mop remix is largely fine. the issues are top heavy and they have some kinks to work out in the endgame space, but for the majority of people who logged onto remix to get some cosmetics, level some alts, and have a chill time experiencing MoP content as current-ish content, i think its a homerun
@MSinistrari
3 ай бұрын
So many are treating Remix like it's going to be over in a week or so and freaking out about stampeding to endgame being maxxed. We've got three months of this, that's plenty of time to casually play, get a bunch of alts leveled and get a bunch of cosmetics. For the content I'm doing, I don't need to upgrade my gear beyond drops and by the end of this I'll have all the cosmetics and mounts I want. Yeah, there are flaws with Remix, but hopefully should they decide to do a remix version of the other expansions, they'll learn from how MoP was and make changes.
@mogalixir
3 ай бұрын
No one wants to play for three months to get the item level frog farmers got in three days and didn’t fix.
@AkiRa22084
3 ай бұрын
@@mogalixir None of what you said is true.
@mogalixir
3 ай бұрын
Do you not understand how much bronze frog farm got you from charm turn ins?
@codyp2808
3 ай бұрын
@@mogalixir comparison is the thief of joy. Maybe you should stop basing all your life decisions on whether or not you're slower than a no-life gamer
@WadeAllen001
3 ай бұрын
No Place Like Home would've been absolutely huge in Classic WoW when the hearthstone cooldown was an hour. But in the modern game there are so many portals around the world, 900% speed flying, and teleportation items that I hardly ever use my hearthstone anymore. I certainly never need to use it two times every 10 minutes like humans will now be able to do. As for the bronze thing they should've just made two currencies that you get in equal proportion, one for cosmetics and one for gear upgrades.
@willythemailboy2
3 ай бұрын
The only thing I would use it for is doing world quests, where being able to hearth twice might make for more efficient paths around the zones.
@Utred2012
3 ай бұрын
This will incentivize Humans to put their hearthstone in a “median” location that isn’t a portal spot and hearth pretty much whenever getting to that location would be “on the way”.
@nafalyno7284
3 ай бұрын
Wow veterans get older get family so its good . If youre crying start to grow up😅
@kalasmournrex1470
3 ай бұрын
Dunno, I can’t count how many times I’ve pugged M+ to see “need summon, hearth on CD”.
@duderpeace
3 ай бұрын
@@nafalyno7284 what? that was random wtf
@GreasyMalone
3 ай бұрын
I've always wanted Orgrimmar to expand. Azshara is right there and already shaped like the Horde symbol. Goblin engineers, earthen artificers, and Blackrock smiths could easily work together to expand to at least Boralus levels of size. You could even have parts of it that are questing areas like in BfA cities. Hell, Zaralek (and War Within) have this new technology to make Garrosh's (and later Sylvanas') underground base a seamless addition for our undead friends.
@xarrison8274
3 ай бұрын
I'm thinking the Orgrimmar revamp is likely to come along with the Midnight world revamp. Seems like the Draenei are getting a new city to which I'm guessing will also come with Midnight
@sardonicspartan9343
3 ай бұрын
I say bring on the revamp. If some people want to stay in old Orgrimmar with phasing.
@rooku3942
3 ай бұрын
Seems like we're getting a Silvermoon revamp too ( from Alleria's recent story )
@adelebalog4356
3 ай бұрын
I really hope Midnight will be worth the wait and they can deliver on all the revamps. The world sorely needs it.
@dagrimone
3 ай бұрын
im wondering if the draenei new city will be a floating air city replacement now that a certain moving air city seems to be er... not so floating in the air (trying to be vague for those who dont want spoilers but i think i might not be vague enough)
@killsomethin
3 ай бұрын
I love seeing wow players bitch and whine over every detail in game .
@harkenrebirth
3 ай бұрын
Yeah. The fact that Orgrimmar is the same way.. Since Garrosh upgraded. But at the same thing.. Orgrimmar is still the exact same way as in the past. In Vanila. When you consider the races that are part of the Horde. You would think that they would bring with them some kind of improvements.. But nothing has happened. The blood elves are there. They may have Quelthalas.. But Orgrimmar is still their capital and home. So why arent they there as well. And maybe with some blood elf stuff architecture. It all looks barbaric.. Savage. Old and... just old. Like they are in the stone age. But they have technology. They have magic. They have fucking SIEGE ENGINES... Somehow they dont have materials to build homes? Makes no sense. Orgrimmar as the capital of the horde is a bit to much ORC.. But not just any kind of orc.. OLD Orc. These orcs should be more civilized NOW.. Not barbaric savages. So why arent they improving. Building better. Instead of something like. BIG WALL... And then everythign being open. LIke its not made for people LIVING There.. But for war.Even before, back in Vanila version. That was how the Horde capital was.
@midgetydeath
3 ай бұрын
Considering Horde relations internally, they would not improve. They’re very insular and splintered, united only by common enemies. The Alliance, on the other hand, should be far more influenced by the races in it, but mostly isn’t.
@midgetydeath
3 ай бұрын
At the very least, the multiple wars basically purging the most vicious and evil of the Horde should be reflected visually. Though, at least Dragonflight took advantage of it narratively. Which is nice.
@depressedonion5610
3 ай бұрын
Bronze needs to be buffed or upgrades needed nerfed and cloak power (the achievement beyond XII) needs to scale higher as the event goes on. They need to let characters mail gems to each other as well. This mode needs to be more alt friendly.
@LohengrinX14
3 ай бұрын
they should change it to "home is where the heart is" or something and let you set two locations
@InkDevil999
3 ай бұрын
That would be better but wouldn't that also just be a worse version of Vulperas camp racial?
@Zemilia22
3 ай бұрын
The human racial would be alot more interesting if it was similar to vulpara, instead of two charges at one location let people have two hearthstones that can be set to different places. Keep one near a raid you farm each week and the other in the major city, use it while lvling up to quickly jump to a bank to dump greens you wanna sell for transmog and then jump back to the zone you were questing in. Like so many more uses for having two locations vs two charges but only one location.
@justinenulam
3 ай бұрын
Their defense of the high cost of upgrades sounds like defending elites sense of superiority, but if you are correct that the bulk of those elites actually advocate for reduced costs, then who are blizz holding this line for?
@TDR-0484
3 ай бұрын
Players that actually wanted a 3 month event, not a 3 day one.
@askekrause3909
3 ай бұрын
You're crazy if you think the cost is too high. It barely takes a week to get max ilvl if you go hard, and it takes maybe two weeks if you chill and only do dailies and one or two easy raids a day.
@JulianaBlewett
3 ай бұрын
I'm enjoying Remix. Im running dungeons and raids, getting tons of mounts and bronze. I'm not worried about maxing gear because its going to be replaced in TWW anyway. It's a quick way to level missing characters and that's what I'm doing.
@lightelf1337
3 ай бұрын
All Blizzard needs to do is make bronze an account wide currency. Boom, now people can level any character they want and funnel bronze to one character for player power.
@publicguy1664
3 ай бұрын
That's not a solution.
@Impuracle
3 ай бұрын
Is what I would say if I was deranged. Anything short of account-wide Bronze discounts on gear upgrades is unacceptable.
@lizzardentertainment3846
3 ай бұрын
Yeah and you would just keep leveling alts 24/7.
@msscott22
3 ай бұрын
That's basically just cheesing it the way the frog farm did.
@tesladrew2608
3 ай бұрын
I think that's why they didn't make it account wide
@hughjasol1212
3 ай бұрын
Im enjoying it so far, just levelling alts and chasing those achievement awards and any Xmogs/mounts or whatever just takes my fancy
@yegor6763
3 ай бұрын
I'll be honest, this year I've played classic era realms, Wrath, Season of Nerfs, Retail and MoP remix. And out of all of these I think the latter one has actually been the most fun so far for me personally. Its far from perfect, but the core idea of it is actually really damn good and can certainly be expanded upon in the future!
@lumathran
3 ай бұрын
Experience of MoP Remix has been: Fun for levels 10-60. Experience a region that I only touched in order to get certain mounts or the half hill farm. The downside has always been the gear realization and how after level 60 my character went from being overpowered to just feeling like I’m playing regular retail wow which introduces a slog to the fast experience I’m wanting/expecting out of the event. the biggest thing with the high cost to level up your gear is that it discourages more casual players to do higher level content (at least that’s how it is to me). However, it has been fun achievement hunting with the new achievements remix brought and earning cool cosmetics even though I haven’t committed to purchasing anything with bonze yet
@whisped8145
3 ай бұрын
16:00 Killing things in one place for two days straight is how a friend and I got from Lv52 to Lv60 back in vanilla. Because we had run out of quests to do. So we went to Plaguelands, Tarrin's Field or whatever it was called, right at the border to the Eastern Plagues, and he would bear-pull a train of about 20-30 mobs, and once he had gathered enough of them he'd hone in on me, past me really, so I could Nova-Cone of Cold-Blizzard-Cone of Cold-Nova-repeat them and nuke off stragglers. When we'd both sit down while I drank the mana back up, and he'd already run around the field again to collect the respawn together while my Mana was still only halfway full again. When the train arrived back, I stood up and did the ice-rotation. Some Horde was watching us from afar, sat down on a log. PvP server, but they never interfered. Looked as if they were trying to learn. One time they applauded. Two days later we hit 60. It was basically a LAN-party as through that I was over at his place, fixed a PC for one of his friends and then played with that. We had both given up on getting to 60, the game entirely to be honest, but there decided to do some quests together and then we figured doing this, as we did it with smaller groups during our travels together finishing up those last hardest Silithus Quests and such that were available. We hit 60 just in time to join our Raid Alliance for Molten Core. A couple weeks later we had Europe's 7th Ragnaros kill. Or so our raidleader informed us when we finally got it. Our maintank priest turned into Shadowform and started dancing... Shadowpriests were of course forbidden, and that stunt had broken that preconception that we needed superlocked superspecific skillings. It is so much more important that you know what you're doing, than have a few bigger numbers across the screen. Sadly Blizzard never capitalized on focusing on mechanics, and thus fun, but only the numbers game for the most part. The latter is lazy and uncreative design.
@primal4887
3 ай бұрын
I've played Shaman a long time, once you have two hearthstones, there will times you want a 3rd.
@zgamer45
3 ай бұрын
I agree that having Bronze tied to both Transmogs/Mounts & Gear Upgrades probably wasn't the best decision.
@Paladinbaroque
3 ай бұрын
I love so much about how it has been setup - my goal was "O I can get crazy enough to solo normal raids or maybe heroic to get those tusks farmed solo" - so much of that was assuming, as they said in a marketing vid - that my cloak would all be account wide, not set levels for alts. It feels hobbled in a mode that should be firing on all cylinders. I wanna level alts, I wanna unlock all those mogs and I wanna feel crazy powerful as I go and the more time I invest. All the farms and people optimizing out the fun to be efficient is always going to happen, its just high lighted all of remixs problems real quick. I just don't want it to take 40 + days of dailies to maybe make one character OP whilst trying to level others for heritage mogs.
@Vloshko
3 ай бұрын
I've on occasion watched your videos, not all that often, but over the last few days I've definitely been paying attention to you. I have recommendations turned off, so I come to youtube with intention. Anyway, I also rarely comment on anything. That being said take this comment as a cookie (which it literally is), and I'm going to subscribe and like your video, because I truly appreciate you and your team, I think you guys do a spectacular job. And I primarily PvP, but when it comes to PvE content, I'd rate your videos as high as Preach back in the day. In summary, thanks for being helpful, enjoyable to watch, and I appreciate the frequency of your uploads. I have no idea what your schedule is, but make sure you take some time off for yourselves. At least over the last week it seems like you all have been going hard. I see it.
@RockerBoy20045
3 ай бұрын
i bet they're super grateful, completely random internet stranger 😂
@morgulis5932
3 ай бұрын
I just want to be able to finally 'Use' my Tusks of Mannoroth Cosmetic that I had farmed the bones for
@Guitarman5705
3 ай бұрын
Remix is a good idea but honestly as someone who didnt get in on the frog farming and the crazy power gains early im already checked out, i leveled a few alts, couldnt care less about old mounts and transmog so it is what it is but im definitely not gonna farm every raid every single day to try to eek out a 10th of what other players got no life killing frogs lol
@ArcticMoose17
3 ай бұрын
You can get 476 ilvl in probably a week of dailies and clearing a raid or two each day (which can be done in 1-2 hours) It’s quite easy to catch up if you want to and most people I’ve run into that are 476 didn’t do frogs - they just played the game
@Blaze-ut5vl
3 ай бұрын
Bro I never did these bs mob farms and I’m sitting happy clear some raids. Do this and you will get gear. Upgrade the gear early buy the toys and stuff later. You got 80 ish days. Lmao.
@Sellvc
3 ай бұрын
Brother ppl who hit a frog got fucked
@magius9866
3 ай бұрын
@@ArcticMoose17 True. I am just playing the game, doing story quests, scenarios, dungeons and raids once per day + dailies for rep. And I have 460 ilvl, slowly approaching 476. 90% of ppl didn't even know about the frogs exploit.
@fentdealr
3 ай бұрын
The frog players were updated and nerfed so idek what you are crying about 😂 we even got free bronze for it
@ZachariahGallos
3 ай бұрын
I've only been using the remix to level characters for my warband and get transmogs. I think it's been mostly fun, but I haven't upgraded a single item, and shelve characters within hours of dinging 70. If I get all the classes leveled I might start playing it for endgame content, but I'm also not yet finished collecting all the Dragonflight transmogs.
@grade14
3 ай бұрын
I have been loving remix. Running lots of normals, queued content, world bosses, leveling alts, etc. Bronze spending wise my main is just under half way through the upgrade levels, and I am just about half way through the purchasable rewards. I do not like the argument about having two currencies during the event as we likely wouldn't be getting more than we are now, but it would be divided for us and we would not have the agency to choose where we want to spend it (upgrades or cosmetics), likely making it take twice as long or more to do either. I do think the one thing they really should do though is apply the discount to upgrading alts. This is my only complaint to the current state of remix, as they already fixed my other ones (account jewelry and thread drop rate / spools).
@jediknight2079
3 ай бұрын
I agree 100% with upgrade costs needing to come down. I have a 405 hunter (not from gulp frogs or goat farming) and I want to play my SPriest but it just feels like my god. I have to do this grind AGAIN. Feels bad man, especially when most of remix has been fun. Blizz needs to do something. Fast.
@tristanmattwig8541
3 ай бұрын
Yesssss, rework orgrimmar. I never cared for the metal stuff garrosh added. Like they live in a desert? wouldnt that make things worse? pretty sure there was easier ways to fireproof the city. I think reworking it and maybe creating a new council building or harbor that connects to the city directly would be great. They could have a tunnel through the rock or blow parts of the canyons to open it up to the sea. Idk I think Orgrimmar has a TON of potential. Even more than stormwind it is a multicultural city of the horde.
@hardwing
3 ай бұрын
An updated/upgraded Orgrimmar as a counterweight to the new Draenei city? Hell yes!
@Planetdune
3 ай бұрын
Diplomacy gone? That was the sole reason I made a human in 2005....
@effortlessGFX
3 ай бұрын
Looks like it’s time to re roll. Night Elves always looking for new members.
@elilawrence7166
3 ай бұрын
“They are capable of cooking.” He said the thing!!!!
@paliggae
3 ай бұрын
He talks about cooking more than food channels.
@TheSynthisis
3 ай бұрын
I'm cool with the Pandaria bronze choice the more I play it. I'm now reaching the point on my DK where I have been thread and bronze farming and starting to see the beginnings of the busted power it brings and it feels like a reward for lots of hard work. I've started doing heroic raids and the challenge increase and better gear drops are fun. I do think the bronze reduction being account wide would be a great reward for hitting that power and gear level peak. A sign that you did the work and so you can get your alts there easier.
@sretslad1781
3 ай бұрын
Filthy casual here. Im just chilling and vibing with this mode. gathering an alt army and doing whatever i feel like
@ThePict
3 ай бұрын
orgrimmar needs more themed areas
@xxkyky
3 ай бұрын
A mini battleground/ dueling contest area/ ffa fight pit
@Desolaytore
3 ай бұрын
@@xxkyky basically the dueling pit from zuldazar.
@xxkyky
3 ай бұрын
@@Desolaytore I don’t remember this one!!
@Desolaytore
3 ай бұрын
@@xxkyky it was to left of the city against the coast. Was also used as an arena map
@xxkyky
3 ай бұрын
@@Desolaytore yes okay I know now. That concept is rad. Can make an Olympic style arena map in the capital cities. Orgimmar and SW
@That_kind_of_orc
3 ай бұрын
Orgrimmar is lackluster compared to stormwind which feels and looks like an actual city
@coryaustin7379
3 ай бұрын
MoP "Remix" feels more like MoP Reheated. They could've gone wild with it, added open world events, Zandalari or Mogu invasions, Raid bosses out in the open world, fucking anything the sky is the limit and yet all we got was nerfed farms and "go run dailies, raids, and dungeons". It's just regular MoP but faster.
@velikostoyanov2804
3 ай бұрын
Lol give them money to do it cmon. Mr i want new expansionin the old one
@OhNoTheFace
3 ай бұрын
Sounds annoying
@coryaustin7379
3 ай бұрын
@@velikostoyanov2804 What the actual fuck are you talking about
@Archimo
3 ай бұрын
absolutely been loving MoP remix but I think blizzard dropped the ball, despite that the core concept and gameplay overall is good I hope they do more remixes in the future, but blizzard really seems like they are actively trying to make it a horrible experience. Also having bronze cost on gear progression was a big mistake needed separate currency or gear upgrade based on lifetime account bronze obtained and then being free if you have earned X amount of bronze on your account. Further more the "dedicated player can reasonably acheive" is straight up a lie, they set everybody back to the same flat amount of 2,5k all stats 25k stamina if you were above it, a dedicated player would easily be able to have reached way way more, some people getting more then that every day without hyperspawn. Several friends that had not taken advantage of the frogs (they farmed some ofc but just not that many as other people did, like a few hours) had all their hard earned stats afterwards (over 10k all stats 100k+ stamina) just taken away from them instead of just the amount they had gotten from frogs, Blizzard literally made them unsub and quit.
@zombesn
3 ай бұрын
I was thinking about this for a long time, they keep adding new cities every expansion as capital hub, dividing the comunity later on and having nearly empty cities. If they reworked the OG stormwind and orgrimmar ( they have place to expand in both cities) it would be awesome ( to have them as current expansion capital)
@domkhadgar
3 ай бұрын
I hear you on the not just getting your account upgraded or a code emailed if you buy the physical copy. But correct me if I am wrong, they don't charge you until it ships... which means you could technically benefit from the upgrade and then cancel your order... that opens up issues.
@diamonds9120
3 ай бұрын
tbh I feel like there are two main motivations for playing Pandamonium. It's either collecting cosmetics, or it's progging endgame content and making your numbers go up. Whichever one people care more about is where they spend their bronze, and it's just the people who are trying to have both that are getting really salty about it. My experience with it has been great. Idk, it's a free event that Blizz spun up on the fly without trying to squeeze people for their cash, and I feel like people should of course give their feedback on the event, but getting legit mad about it is kinda like throwing a tantrum that the present you were given wasn't the one you wanted.
@NotjustGrey
3 ай бұрын
I feel like I’ve earned my current power in Remix. And while it can suck, deciding whether to purchase transmog or gear upgrade makes it feel more impactful.
@SalemJericho
3 ай бұрын
I feel the thing that people constantly forget about the Frog groups is the following: 4 X 2 farming. From what I can tell it's been considered an exploit for a long time. They were doing it to get more people out, more people able to kill frogs for more charms. I feel they weren't punished correctly, but honestly I feel like Bliz should have known this was coming.
@avahnelw5767
3 ай бұрын
Farming frogs was a thing back in MOP. How did Blizzard not know it would be a thing.
@jordansweet7738
3 ай бұрын
I love the idea of a port inside the city for orgrimmar! Thought about that a long time ago, and it would work phenomenally. Seems weird that horde have to travel outside the gates to catch a boat, or even ride a zeppelin. They could make the harbor so cool if it was in some sort of defias brotherhood (goonies) style cave. Only much more open. Would be super reminiscent of classic durotar
@Gongoresh
3 ай бұрын
Having a chracter on retail that is geared should be compensated when you go to remix to upgrade your remix characters gear with cheaper bronze. Just like flightstones. Gives reason to still get gear in retail since getting gear in remix that is essentially moot.
@jarettairey9551
3 ай бұрын
thanks for the guild shoutout for RED TEAM!
@merox2266
3 ай бұрын
u better not make orgrimmar a fucking smooth stoned city i want my god deam spikes on my walls
@decwow
3 ай бұрын
ThAt'S nOt VeRy DiVeRsE oF yOu...
@user-cb4ow1df7f
3 ай бұрын
can have spikes...but for once...Horde could learn to stop walkign through mud and dust roads...at least use some gravel.
@abluecardigan
3 ай бұрын
@@user-cb4ow1df7fstay in stormwind, humie
@Forty2de
3 ай бұрын
Spikes or RIOT
@Voffsing1
3 ай бұрын
The Cataclysm revamp of Orgrimmar ruined the city imho
@TravellerChris
3 ай бұрын
The new Human racial would've been so fun to use in WPvP back when the Paladin bubble was simply unbreakable and lasted 10+ seconds.
@kennethyates1725
3 ай бұрын
i love it when blizzard makes the game more convenient and easy without making the game directly easier in a way everything seems scaled down. that's a win in my book.
@dohboi75
3 ай бұрын
Is leveling in remix fast even if you avoid group content?
@damiansadlo2188
3 ай бұрын
If you get the last infinite power achi and get some threads of XP, then yes
@awworrell
3 ай бұрын
From what I have heard, even with the achievements, its still slower than retain.
@johernandez266
3 ай бұрын
@@awworrell It is slower you can get to max in retail in 16 hours played.
@H25Invicta
3 ай бұрын
In MoP Remix it does not make sense from a gameplay standpoint to spend Bronze on cosmetics before you have fully upgraded your gear. But when I had farmed my half a mil for maxed gear, I found that the only thing I had left to do was clear Mythic Siege and farm more Bronze. So I cleared Mythic Siege, which was surprisingly easy, and now I get to experience the joy of farming more Bronze.
@EctocoolerEI
3 ай бұрын
If they are going to keep the current bronze cost for upgrading they could at least make the discount account wide so gearing alts isn't also the same grind
@Amusing_Alias
3 ай бұрын
Id love to see an in-game event to allow horde players to vote for a new warchief. I dont know how they could do this without alliance mains sneaking in to ruin the vote and probably lots of other unforseen shenanigans but it would be cool to see something like that. The horde has been stagnating lore-wise for a while now. I know the alliance is also suffering from this but at least they got a new night elf city recently
@georgeindestructible
3 ай бұрын
I just love how Remix revealed the obvious, how bad the scaling has been because of the focus on tuning it according the top % of skill level.
@zacharyjames4121
3 ай бұрын
They said that these characters can be transferred into the new expansion, if the item level max stat is 556 and they keep that number the same. That's a nice starting character for the expansion
@Boomken76
3 ай бұрын
I did engage, I was there when MoP hit & did it with alts so there no real feeling of not getting everything done. Kinda glad looking at how its going.
@Beerpowered
3 ай бұрын
I only got the Epic Edition because I saw that while they did sell the items from previous epic editions as separate standalone purchases in the store it was dramatically cheaper to just buy the Epic Edition.
@no-budhee6657
3 ай бұрын
They’re not removing diplomacy for player power. With warbands sharing rep, everyone would be playing a human for the bonus.
@DeusVultGamer
3 ай бұрын
I’m loving the event. My only gripe is that I only spent 20 minutes farming frogs and Blizz nerfed my cloak (95% of those threads were gained in normal content) and prevented me from getting endless bronze via alts.
@vikkistalsberg9590
3 ай бұрын
personally i am having a blast with the remix. I am not a raider or do many dungeons but with the remix i feel that i actually can do those end game type of things. the only problem i have found personally is when trying to get the achievements for the rings and neck.. people see your ilvl and think you are not geared enough when with the cloak that is not the case at all.. I am lvl 70 and working on upgrading the my gear so the only thing i would like to see is people need to be more open in pug groups.. we may not be as bad as you think.
@ithelan
3 ай бұрын
A lot of this "outrage" is based on the expectation of time requirements set by the retail team for the last several expansions. The team needs to decide if they're making content for a quick week/month consumption or if they're making seasonal content for a quarterly consumption rate. And they need to be open about what they're releasing and their intentions for it - like they were for plunderstorm.
@jessipan378
3 ай бұрын
I just had a small list of things to get from remix, i got them and left. it strikes me as amusing that when we found out the amount of bronze needed for all the cosmetics, and most people said.. well its just getting what you want, not all of it.. and then we find out that full upgrade is half that total.
@brianweaver327
3 ай бұрын
Org is definitely showing its age. All the major cities are. Look at Suramar, now THAT is a city.
@ZeroEdge69
3 ай бұрын
Physical Collector's Edition is literally worded as "includes all the perks of the Epic Edition". Except 1-2 of them are not included. Beta Access is clearly not, because we need the product key. The Early Access MAY also be in contention, due to shipping timeframes. If it doesn't arrive in time, then... oh well. I sincerely hope someone in a country with stronger product laws to go after Blizz for this (Canada doesn't that I am aware of). I attempted support tickets, and was basically met with copy/paste responses, and being told to bring the topic to the forums, because the devs listen to and respond to feedback... yes... the DEVS are relevant to business practices. Some days I wonder if the people working in customer service even have the ability to understand what is being asked of them.
@happyhippiesurbanfarm
3 ай бұрын
Has anyone heard how long blizzard expects it to take to fix the tusks of mannoroth bug??
@laurens1997
3 ай бұрын
I’ve been enjoying just leveling up alts tbh! Learning some classes/specs I’ve never played and it’s super quick. I wish I’d just saved my bronze for upgrading my main instead of sinking it on all the mounts and transmog 🤣. But mounts and mog are forever so, I’ll continue doing my dailies etc there’s still plenty of time left :)
@BaronVonPwn
3 ай бұрын
The screams of the player base cant be ignored. They need to buff acquisition rates, substantially lower the cost, or make the discounts after upgrading account wide . I like the last option. Because it means you sink the bronze cost one time. Then your alts are rewarded.
@kokujinken2165
3 ай бұрын
Upgrades are fine, If u do the daily work it takes like 15 -17 days to fully upgrade. Like a upgrade a day
@publicguy1664
3 ай бұрын
Orgrimmar totally needs a revamp. Especially since it's more unified as a whole, there should be bits of architecture from all Horde races and removing the slum type areas Garrosh made for the "lesser" races in his xenophobic mind.
@HelicopterHammy
3 ай бұрын
An Alliance expansion? ... and that's a problem. Huh. What was Warlords of Draenor? I seem to remember a whole lot of orcs on the cover art...
@Junebug89
3 ай бұрын
WoD, infamously well liked world of warcraft expansion!
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3 ай бұрын
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@MacKeydp
3 ай бұрын
I've enjoyed Remix simply due to the fact that I do not care at all about min/maxing like I do with my main character. I approached this mode as a fun, relaxed, summer event and the only thing that sours the experience are the players who can't help themselves and have to min/max everything they do.
@devonanderson343
3 ай бұрын
Strangely enough I’ve been watching a lot of this bronze drama and upgrade drama from the outside it feels like. Mop remix to me always seemed like a free to play (tho technically not because subs are a thing but you get my point) lvl 70 character boost that was repeatable for a limited time with added bonus for collections. So for me as a dad gamer with limited time the value has been in not investing massive time into an individual character but going wide, im working on my 3rd lvl 70 of the event. Im playing classes I’ve generally avoided because they seemed fun only after a leveling slog. And im having a genuinely fun time with the gems and goofy stuff. Truly I think this is one of those things where you can’t be mad at blizzard for making an event focused on the fun and not on the min max experience (for a change) ESPECIALLY given that it is a limited event. If you’re one of the people “up in arms” I think you may have misunderstood the assignment.
@Alexandterrara
3 ай бұрын
20:00 there is clearly a lot of prep for world revamp for Midnight. Which is funny that we get a new world revamp in expansion called MIdnight, after all the talk about Twilight in Cataclysm.
@fergin4979
3 ай бұрын
My biggest issue with remix is how faceroll easy everything is until I assume heroic raids, which everyone wants you to be very geared for. So its just a ton of grinding things that are just mindlessly easy. And I can only assume that if you have a few frog farmers and abuse that ward tinker then heroic raids might not even be a challenge either.
@Nasty_Riffs
3 ай бұрын
No complaints about the froggers from me. Cleared throne of thunder and siege in no time lol
@tillguts
3 ай бұрын
Whatever Blizzard wants us to do to farm bronze and threads they should buff it by a lot so that we players actually FEEL rewarded for hard grinds. My guess is increase drops from raids by like 100%. People will grind those daily. Oh and like a % discount on alts would be preferable aswell. I mean from my experience most players level an army of alts on remix -- that should be considered by blizzard.
@nickjacober
3 ай бұрын
SO my take on MoP remix. ive leveled several alts for TWW. thats what i see this event being is soley to pass time, try a new way to play, level alts, collect mounts and transmog. nothing more or less. while yes the bronze cost is high and i dont like it, i understand this is a 3 MONTH long event, not a week or two. so of course its gonna be expensive to essentially get to "End game" status with a character. and those who have acheived it have much more time on their hands than most of the player base. all in all, i really enjoy this style of play, its fun, fresh, and fast paced, and simple. i hope they do it again with another xpac like Legion or TBC maybe, would be a fun way to do Timewalking from now on. the grind is real yes, but as a casual player, and vanilla veteran, i think its fun. is it perfect? absolutely not. but its not a sweat fest. nor is it important long term for players.
@shadowdragon8168
3 ай бұрын
As others have said here, the cloak nerf the froggers got did nothing, all the power comes from the tinker gems, not the cloak, and those tinker gems scale with Ilvl, so if you have 556 gear, your tinker gems are going to be absolutely broken, which is why so many people are chasing the bronze farms. They want that power, they see what that power is and they want it themselves, and they want that power to make farming the raids easier so they can get more bronze to get the cosmetics. And the fact that blizzard said in that forum post that if you want cosmetics, then you should either lvl multiple characters or forgo that power from upgrading gear is such a spit in the face, its not even funny, and bronze won't get you all the cosmetics either. If you want something like Tusks or the heirlooms, then you HAVE to upgrade your gear to even be considered for those raids since the scaling is so fucked at 70 and you get one shot by unavoidable raid AoEs till about 380 average ilvl. This event is such a shit show, its not even funny.
@JAlvarez1104
3 ай бұрын
Imagine a raid as nutty for the time as the Siegecrafter Blackfuse fight. Im game.
@Iandar1
3 ай бұрын
The only gripe I have really is that the portal room is at the entrance of org.
@benparker5616
3 ай бұрын
Gota love treating an event like progressing a raid teir for endgame.
@madhatterui
3 ай бұрын
I didn’t farm bronze at all and I’m capped gear upgrades. All I do is all the raids on heroic which is about 50k so I’m not sure what people are upset about
@HelloJTello
3 ай бұрын
I really enjoy MOP remix for the most part. I do think some issues with bronze is definitely one of the most tedious things going on for the community atm. If you want the game to be fast paced, than why hit the community with nerfs? Instead of building upon that or even making a fun event around it, seems like the wrong direction for Blizzard to take in this case. I really think people playing the game and getting bronze at a reasonable rate with things not costing so much would definitely make folks happy and able to purchase other things they want like mounts, companions, transmogs, etc.
@MrSaucyBeans
3 ай бұрын
Why don't they just make the XP buff on your cloak at level 70 turn into bronze gain %??? Like 189% bronze gain. It's such a simple fix to make it feel better.
@Reiven18
3 ай бұрын
Remix has been a blessing for collectors and thats what i have been doing. I couldnt care less about the hyper spawn farmers or the sweats that care about the gear upgrades
@MsBryant33
3 ай бұрын
I'm not focused on Raiding; just levelling alts to the point that I can play in the War Within; I just want to be strong enough to go in and do the story and then cancel my account and go on to something else. So for me - this doesn't super affect me; I do want to get some cool transmogs, and mounts but feel like I probably will get what I want.
@uvveshlurvvesh6515
3 ай бұрын
"Cool Trabsmogs" - you can everything by just doing the Raids. 😅
@Scuuurbs
3 ай бұрын
@@uvveshlurvvesh6515you sure? The transmog npc sells stuff I’m pretty sure you can’t get anywhere else, like the Shado-pan outfits n such.
@everdash
3 ай бұрын
mop remix was marketed as "revisit old content and stomp it and get all the rewards!" they need to stop bait and switching and changing things when players find ways to play the mode the way it was intended. its destroying what little faith we have in the devs right now.
@allviper
3 ай бұрын
Those people that took advantage of the frogs should not have been nerfed. The frog form was in MoP long time ago. Next time they do something like mop remix. They need a look at what they edited in the expansion and patched. If blizzard leaves a hyper spawned up that's on them. The reason the people knew about it is because they did it back then too. So they're punching people for something that happened over 10 years ago that was already known by the community.
@Tychuss
3 ай бұрын
My experience with Remix so far: hitting max lvl, trying to get into the normal raids to get my neck, being rejected because of low ilvl -> being stuck without chance of raiding. And im just doing this event for the tusks (so I need to raid Garrosh a lot), but I guess my plans will not play out well...
@johernandez266
3 ай бұрын
Get ready for "Make your own raid group." comments. I don't agree but I am only one voice.
@msscott22
3 ай бұрын
Keep grinding and upgrading the gear with bronze. Eventually you'll be max item level and no one will ever decline you.
@askekrause3909
3 ай бұрын
Shopping list: All world bosses daily ~30-45 minutes. Kirin tor aid quest which grans a key for scenario, which gives insane amounts of cloak power. ~8 minutes, scenario included. Daily dungeons and scenarios ~30-60 minutes. Mogu'shan Vaults & Heart of Fear on normal difficulty: ~1 hour at most unless you get stuck with the worst of the worst. As many LFR raids as you can stomach for the daily reward. Reward: In two weeks you'll be maxed ilvl, look like a greek god frog abuser and be invited to every heroic raid you'll ever need.
@filip5382
3 ай бұрын
@@askekrause3909 but people rather lurking around Timeless isle and yell how unfair everything is and they can't play
@stoney1budtokie420
3 ай бұрын
Quests should had reward cosmetic currency where dungeons and raids reward your power upgrade currency. Boom quick solution.
@ThomasAllyn
3 ай бұрын
For a person who never makes a main and only plays alts it really makes this event feel more like a drag I loved it when it released but just a few days after the game kinda feel likes a dull feeling since I can’t handle playing one toon for a long period of time and they made it to be an alt power leveling and upgrading event and instead made it an exact reverse version of it and it feels like there slowly letting the community down like they did in the past hopefully they will listen to the people other then just letting go through one ear and out the other like the previous owners.
@bethgramkow5225
3 ай бұрын
I am not upgrading my gear but I am just having fun by leveling new characters.
@dannydanecker7959
3 ай бұрын
If the game mode is supposed to be slightly less serious than a typical season, an 'event' as they say, Blizzard should allow players to become powerful enough to enjoy the party fully and get cosmetics. They lose nothing by making it easier to accrue power, I regularly get hit for my whole health bar as a level 70 character with 346 gear. I'm reliant on some overstated person to carry all my encounters even through most of the leveling process. Let the stats flow free, the more broken everything is the less broken any one thing will seem, can't even put up 50k dps watching 1.8 mil dps.
@GoddessPallasAthena
3 ай бұрын
Not sure how easy it would have been to program (I'm guessing NOT easy?) but it might have been nice to be able to have TWO hearth locations set, with the other changes as well. Maybe too OP?
@Fyrewuffen
3 ай бұрын
I already have most classes at 40 to 50, and i dont really want to have to remake them if I am attached to the ones I currently have.
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