So many miles with so little trouble shows that you got your research spot on when you built them. Well done. Good video as usual 😊☺️🐱🙂😜
@RollingExistence
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian! 😊
@jasontomica8938
Жыл бұрын
@@RollingExistence Great video but you should be putting a mirror on that bike. That's a 100% fact I almost got hit from behind several times and other people died without their mirrors so please put a mirror on that bike. You're gonna be traveling the world even if you're just going down the street? Anyway cool video thank you so much
@jasontomica8938
Жыл бұрын
@@RollingExistence Also what is your budget for your whole trip so far i'm gon to guess, 30k?
@holgerjrgensen2166
6 ай бұрын
In 91/92 I'd vent around Earth with my bicycle. (10½ kg) for 5 months, my weight is 62, and my luggage was 6½ kg, in two bags, one in front, one in back, minimum air resistance. (rocket-shape/sail-front) Stayed mostly in hostels (10 Dollars) and cheap hotels, cheapest 2½ dollar, clean and nice, (Randnangoon mid-India) I am, Cykel Logisk Institut, this was a major inspection of the cycle-infra-standard of the time. 4 of the 5 months I'd stayed in large cities and capitols. (Most expensive, 9 Days Tokyo, 30 D/US a day) My Cycle was on planes, ferry, trains, and bus, in total, 75 dollars. Well, lots have changed since then, cycle-infra is improving, and it is still possible the travel light, and economic, the art of minimizing, and logical planning.
@trailingupwards
6 ай бұрын
Yeah, but everything sucks now compared to the early 90's.
@KlePhys
Жыл бұрын
Very nice video! I like the fact that you show your real equipment and not advertising super expensive things:)
@jolly7728
Жыл бұрын
Amazing! Really enjoyed learning about bike touring setups, something I've wondered about for quite awhile. It's pretty involved -- all the gear you use. The way you explained everything was just right! Around the world touring on a bike is something I can only dream about, but I am a fan of you guys for being so "adventurous" and knowledgeable on “bicycle tourology.”
@vermonthillsumc
Жыл бұрын
So glad that I watched this. Your knowledge and know how is impressive and I learned a ton. Thank you for taking the time to record and edit and post this.
@RollingExistence
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad the video was helpful!
@connolm
Жыл бұрын
This was brilliant. Thanks for a clean and to-the-point video. I agree that avid BB7s are a perfect compromise of braking performance and serviceability. I'm used to them now and prefer them over many high-end options.
@Jamie.S.
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent stuff. It’s always great seeing what serious hardcore bike tourists choose for their setup. They look like really well thought out great machines. You didn’t tell us about your rear racks. Thanks for sharing and safe and happy travels.
@RollingExistence
2 жыл бұрын
We forgot to mention the rear racks, sorry about that! Jenny has a Tubus Logo Classic and Andrew has a Tubus Cargo Evo. The Logo Classic has more tire clearance and lets the panniers ride lower, giving the bicycle a lower center of gravity and better handling. The Cargo Evo isn't as nice - the rack stays are slightly offset causing the pannier to fit awkwardly, and Andrew will have to switch out to a different rack to run 29x2.6s (probably the Tubus Vega).
@Jamie.S.
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks yes I’ve got the Tubus logo classic as well. Great rack.
@petesig93
2 жыл бұрын
@@RollingExistence I use the Tubus Cargo, and have loved it for over 15 years. I do not know what you mean by "the pannier stays are slightly off-set". My panniers fit fine and I like that the Bikepacker Classic panniers sit a bit higher, forming a valley on top between the two panniers where I often load my pair of Keen Nelson sandals, or a MSR Dromedary 6L waterbag, under the rack bag.
@RollingExistence
2 жыл бұрын
@@petesig93 I actually do the valley thing as well, I keep my Fuji X-T4 camera bag in the valley between the panniers. Regarding the offset stay issue, I took a couple pictures to show you what I'm talking about: imgur.com/a/moXfyLd . In the picture of the Cargo Evo, I labeled the three stays off the rack as 1, 2, and 3 going from the front of the bike to the back. Stays 1 and 2 are where I connect the bottom hooks on the Ortlieb, and you can see that they are slightly inside of stay 3. This causes stay 3 to rub on the material of my pannier instead of the hard plastic that is designed to take the abrasion. I've reinforced the wear area with some Aquaseal and it's holding up fine, so it's not a big deal, but it does make the pannier a little bit harder to attach. The Logo Classic actually has the same issue, but the pannier sits in a different place so the abrasion isn't as bad. Maybe I'm just doing it wrong but I've experimented with all of the ways to configure the top and bottom hooks and I can't avoid the rub. I've used the same setup for 6 six years and 30,000km and the abrasion hasn't worn a hole in the pannier yet. I've also tried a Tubus Vega and I prefer the lower weight, extra tire clearance, and two stay design so I'll be switching to it when we ride the GDMBR and have less weight in our panniers.
@Mraquanetchris
Жыл бұрын
Love the Jones H-Bar! Rode from Alaska to San Francisco totally comfortable - no hand, arm or wrist issues.
@rcj4046
Жыл бұрын
You've done well. My wife & I each have a 2019 Surly Troll (basically a 26" version of the Ogre) and we've rigged them in much the same way you two have: BB7 brakes, Cascadia fenders, Tubus racks, 2" Schwalbe tires with reflective sidewalls, and large-area platform pedals with pins. It's nice to have one's decisions validated by seeing others (you two) arrive at similar conclusions and do well when putting them to practice. Two components where our rigs differ from yours are: we each have a Thudbuster seatpost & ShockStop stem and we highly recommend them. Best wishes on your continued travels. We'll be watching.
@RollingExistence
Жыл бұрын
Awesome! We have considered suspension seatposts and stems and might switch to them at some point. Jenny has been having some wrist issues, so a bit of extra cushion might help. Thanks for the recommendations!
@pauldenney7908
2 жыл бұрын
Great video by the way, been pausing your vids trying to work out your setup, but now I know. Keep up the good work. 🙂
@RollingExistence
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad the gear video was helpful!
@julians.2597
8 ай бұрын
I'll add a mirror for my absolute must haves
@-Bicyclenomad
Ай бұрын
Good selection of bicycle components 👍. I hope you have a good cycling trip. Best wishes from the Lower Rhine (Germany). All the best to you. Uwe✌️
@swissride4k
2 жыл бұрын
WoW, 14000 Miles! Great Tourism Video...
@philippes.42069
2 жыл бұрын
very cool technical in depth view with very impressive stats at the end!
@RollingExistence
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it 😊
@matthewtaylor923
Жыл бұрын
You guys have my dream setup. Thanks for explaining everything. I wish more people talked about how terrible dynamos are in general for touring. I was terribly disappointed and ended up just keeping a battery pack charged and never even using the dynamo on a 3 month trip. I love that double bottom hook trick on the Ortliebs. I'm gonna steal that idea.
@tomsitzman3952
Жыл бұрын
Looks like you take good care of your equipment, and it is taking care of you.
@audreytracks
2 жыл бұрын
Nice bike. I also have the Surly Ogre for 2 years now. Same awesome color. I love the bike very much because it's great on road and off-road ridings
@RollingExistence
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Agreed, it's a very versatile bike!
@floraliciavinascoch.2519
Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much to sharing your marvelous experience; God continue take care you
@cubgsan
Жыл бұрын
Good day to you! I am HONDA Cross Cub rider from Japan. Enjoying camping and touring. This is so nice camping video! Awesome!! Thank you so much for sharing! Have a nice day my friend!!
@RollingExistence
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
@ResilienceOnPurpose
Жыл бұрын
This is funny. I built a 2020 Ogre from the frame up last year and I swear about 2/3 rds of our components and accessories overlap. Glad to see it working well!
@RollingExistence
Жыл бұрын
That's awesome! Hope it's been a good ride for you too!
@williamramey1959
Жыл бұрын
This is an excellent item list of your equipment. Thank you.
@abelsae
Жыл бұрын
good video as usual! i am in love with your adventures! keep it comin'!
@ronin550
Жыл бұрын
WOW easy maintenance. That's minty
@SNOWDONTRYFAN
Жыл бұрын
Swear by Rohloff gear hubs , especially when it comes to muddy roads etc, have also switched to using the gates carbon drive combo 😃
@stevencbradley
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for all your videos. Great videography and wonderful descriptions. I'm watching them in their original order so I can share a bit of your experiences. 77 here, so I know for me it's not likely to happen, but you have many years to enjoy. Keep going & have fun. Thanks for the info about the Ogre.
@RollingExistence
Жыл бұрын
Glad you're enjoying the videos! All the best to you 😊
@johnwilkins3995
Жыл бұрын
I admire you both doing this! so cool. Can’t imagine what you’ve seen. Super tough too
@even1007
Жыл бұрын
Grazie mille per la condivisione, i migliori auguri a te!👏👏👏🎉🎉
@viveviveka2651
Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@stoutdog56
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video and I appreciate knowing about your excellent choice of hardware. I guess that might be redundant given your experience. I'm envious of your adventure and maybe I can do a short one someday now I'm retired. Have a wonderful rest of your adventure.
@logtothebase2
3 ай бұрын
Very interesting and a nice succinct video. Its almost exactly the set up I would expect you would need for a self supported expedition touring trip, taking in unpaved roads and tracks that you find in the majority of the world, or if you want to avoid congested fast highways typical of Europe, North America and richer countries. The modern Gravel/bikepacking and older steel frame 700c classic tourers just dont seem strong enough or have good fixed rack options for anything more than supper minimalist carry or exclusively paved roads depending.
@smokeycanuck8058
7 ай бұрын
Very thoughtful and informative video, thanks for sharing.
@JohnstonRobare
Жыл бұрын
Those are the exact Marathon tires I just put on my MTB to act as a winter commuter. No snow yet, but here's hoping they behave 🤞I will note, they are heavy as sin! 1200g/ea Vs the wider 622-55 knobby tires I took off at only 800g/ea Best luck in your travels!
@RollingExistence
Жыл бұрын
Yes, they are stupidly heavy and we noticed as soon as we put them on. We've gotten 5,000 miles out of them so far with not a single puncture between the two of us, so that's a benefit. Also they hardly look worn in at all, I bet they will last even longer than our mondials did.
@jeffhildreth9244
3 ай бұрын
Liked and subscribed. From So Oregon USA I have a Rivendell Hunqapillar as my expedition bike and a few early 80s Road bikes.
@RollingExistence
3 ай бұрын
Rivendells are gorgeous! Glad you enjoyed the video.
@jeffhildreth9244
3 ай бұрын
@@RollingExistence Agreed.. I also have a Rivendell Cheviot.
@king3dtoon427
Жыл бұрын
I watched your channel while watching Korean Bicycle Traveler KZitem and subscribed.
@Heindl661
Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this video. Thanks for sharing!
@percyrodriguez-moran5181
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video ...my god so helpful and useful video. Thanks for sharing...greetings from Washington dc USA
@RollingExistence
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad you found it helpful!
@zeeshimon7138
4 ай бұрын
If you're frame bag is collecting water you can actually cut a little hole in the bottom and that will let it drain. If you want to be fancy you can use a grommet system. Which you can get at almost any hardware store
@RollingExistence
4 ай бұрын
We ended up stabbing a hole in both to get them to drain. Ideally, frame bags would be waterproof considering they are meant to be used on bikepacking trips outdoors, but that doesn't seem to be a priority for most manufacturers. Ortlieb and Rockgeist now both make frame bags that are waterproof but we haven't tried them.
@sascha1778
Жыл бұрын
Awesome set-up. Enjoy!
@sparkyvespa
Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed your video! Many thanks
@teddyrasputin3850
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the real world insights!
@The-GreenHornet
8 ай бұрын
I have Ortlieb back roller classic panniers for my rear rack. The miniscule weight difference between the pvc classic panniers and the Cardura panniers are so unnoticeable that I would rather have the 100% waterproof panniers as well as the durability. Sometimes cycle tourist get too fixated on saving grams and ounces. That they loose sight of the big picture of practicality, waterproof and long lasting toughness. I completely agree that saving weight is important for a long-term tourist. However sacrificing grams and ounces for 100% dry items and longer lasting panniers with the pvc classic panniers I think is the way to go.
@andrewanderson3472
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with the cable brakes , I originally used hydraulic brakes but while touring in India I sprung a leak and was unable to source spares for repairs , I now run trp cable brakes with more than enough stopping power even with heavy loads
@garyking508
2 жыл бұрын
Could have carried a spare hose, weighs less than a cable, almost nothing. Fluid can be obtained from any motorcycle shop in the world. Even 3rd world countries have those, be fixed at the next village.
@tinatpasselepoivre
Жыл бұрын
I tried hybrid brakes (cable over hydro) and honestly in THIS application it is the best of both world (fluid is only in the caliper)
@andrewanderson3472
Жыл бұрын
@@garyking508 the piston was leaking , it was an old set of avid codes , they worked great for years , even here in Australia it's not a part that would be stocked at a well stocked bike shop , I couldn't get the part in mumbai and they have some high end bike shops there , my pads are the standard shimano pad and any brake cable will do , I use the same cable on my rhollof hub
@briantyhy4880
Жыл бұрын
\Thanks for posting, hope your trip is going well. Ive enjoyed your videos and thanks for posting your equipment listing as I've got quite a few tips on future equipment purchases from your video. cheers
@RollingExistence
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad the video was helpful!
@trailingupwards
6 ай бұрын
I wish my salsa cutthroat had a rohloff, and also a gates drive.
@petergibson7287
10 ай бұрын
A very good video; well done.
@solarheat9016
6 ай бұрын
Just in case you don't have their budget, you can use a Shimano Alfine/Nexus transmission and a Shimano dynamo front hub and Chinese Foxey Svetso LED lights.
@chualeechuan9493
Жыл бұрын
Good sharing of technical details Jenny must be with mechanical engineering background! 🔧👍
@mariospenard5125
2 жыл бұрын
Nice bikes… nice ride!
@mirekbns
Жыл бұрын
That's an Army (digi camo edition) issue beanie; great hat!
@RollingExistence
Жыл бұрын
Andrew found it on the AT about 8 years ago and Jenny's been wearing it ever since! Super light and so warm!
@catcycling9961
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing!👍🚵
@JohnMFlores
Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Subscribed
@speedbird8987
2 жыл бұрын
Great video - looking forward to some scenic shots of your travels. I must say though that i chuckled every time you said ‘paneers’ - which is a kind of homemade Indian cheese 😂. The bags on the bike are ‘panyers’ (or ‘panny-ers’ if your French is not so good).
@RollingExistence
2 жыл бұрын
Haha that's how most Americans seem to butcher the word.
@rheinking2754
2 жыл бұрын
Serious bikes, I like'm !
@P13586
Жыл бұрын
Actually, a dynamo works best when removed and left at home depending instead on battery banks for power needs.
@michaelcleary9558
Жыл бұрын
Hey guys,spotted video,good video..am off Monday to cycle Faro to Santiago. Stay safe..michael cleary
@GordoGambler
Жыл бұрын
Nice to see you are are really getting around. I really hate frames with that steep slope top tube. It severely weakens the rack mount. I have 19,300 miles on my awesome Rohloff, now 44/ 16T with 700 x 36 mm SMP tires. I had trouble with goat thorns and damn tiny staples. BB7s with one pad moving are seriously dumb. So pads every 5,000 miles. Get cable TRP Spyre sooner than later, IMO. I have this on my R14, stops instantly. I have a SA XL-FDD dyno drum brake front hub with double your miles and still the brake shoe is doing fine. ZERO squealing, fuss or worry with it in ANY conditions. My Edelux light is always on. My shifter is DIY on the top tube with NO cable flop. When it's raining, my cape covers most of the frame and seat.
@RollingExistence
Жыл бұрын
We looked at the TRP brakes before going with the BB7 but talking with people who had used both locally convinced us that the BB7s were more reliable long term despite the admittedly stupid design where only one pad moves. We aren't exactly happy with the BB7s, but they're consistently reliable at least. Also they are quite a bit cheaper than the TRP brakes. We may go to the TRPs in the future if we ever have issues with our BB7s, but at the time we were struggling to keep our builds on budget and every little bit helps.
@Area612
6 ай бұрын
Hydrolic brakes use mineral oil, sourced from most grocery and drug stores.
@svendvanderveken4024
2 жыл бұрын
Inspiring setup, thanks for the detailed explanation. Have you experienced any phone issue related to the phone handlebar mount? I'm (maybe unreasonably) worried that vibrations might damage the phone somehow, and I currently carry it on a wrist band instead.
@RollingExistence
2 жыл бұрын
We have had good luck with the phones mounted on the handlebars, they haven't had any issues despite thousands of miles of vibrations. We're both using cheapish refurbished Samsung Galaxy phones (s9 and s10) and they've been great, the waterproofing holds up in downpours and if we do have to replace them it won't be terribly expensive. We do make sure they aren't charging on particularly bumpy sections because the biggest wear point is the charging port and the cable bumping around could damage it.
@4672-m9f
Жыл бұрын
Genuis
@andyjsmallwood
Жыл бұрын
Hi both. Thank you for such an insightful video. I also have a Surly Ogre, and I have a question for you. I have used the bike for purely off-road riding with 2.2" MTB tyres. I now also want to use it for touring on tarmac, so I am going to buy some narrower wheels, as the current ones are very wide, and mount narrower, touring tyres on them as a wheel change option. My question is, what is the narrowest tyre you would recommend for road touring? I see you have 2", but I was wondering if 1.75" would work. Your thoughts, or the thoughts of your viewers are very welcome. Thanks again for the great video.
@RollingExistence
Жыл бұрын
Surly's recommended minimum for the Ogre is 2.0", any lower than that and you risk pedal strikes because the bottom bracket is too low. You might be able to get away with 1.75s but the weight and rolling resistance difference between a 1.75 and a 2.0 isn't worth the risk. For long distance touring, you just can't beat the 29x2.0 marathon mondial. Incredibly long lasting, great puncture protection, decent performance on both gravel and pavement, just an all around fantastic tire.
@andyjsmallwood
Жыл бұрын
@@RollingExistence Wow, thanks for the fast reply. Yes, it makes sense what you say about ground clearance and rolling resistance. I still think my 30mm inner rim wheels are a bit too wide for 2" tyres, so I will look into some narrower wheels. Many thanks.
@kodyrrr
2 жыл бұрын
You could make a hole at the bottom of the center bag and it'll not fill up with water anymore.
@RollingExistence
2 жыл бұрын
Early on in the trip we stabbed each bag about a dozen times with a screwdriver but they're still slow to drain, the holes get clogged up. We need to put in proper grommets at some point.
@jasonfitzpatrick414
Жыл бұрын
Ok, I don't see the comment asking: How did you afford the trip, equipment, etc.? I'm quite jealous, perhaps more so that I'm watching a couple travelling together. I've traveled alone and it gets old. Good to have a partner.
@Explore-with-BT
Жыл бұрын
Hi from India 🙂🚴👈
@sallyrosser4590
3 ай бұрын
Hi, did you do the change over to rolloff yourselves or did you order the Ogres with Rohloff already installed? great info!
@ferruccio4531
Жыл бұрын
hi guys, I have just found you and subscribed right away. when I used my Son 28 Dynamo hub for charging my devices I could charge a 5000 Mah battery from my phone in about 4 hours going at 15km/h and other travellers have had similar experiences. perhaps your USB charger is not up to the task. I'm using now a 20000 Mah powerbank with a 65w charger that I can fully charge in 90min max anywhere (within Europe) I find a socket. ciao from Venice, Italy
@ninhan6844
Жыл бұрын
Hi! Thank you very much for this introduction about your bikes. It was super interesting to learn about your intention, line of thinking and designing for a bike specificly for the prupose of touring. I have learned a lot! Would you ever recommend a front suspension for a bike like this given that it might provide more comfort on bumpy road and you can also lock it as you wish? I would assume that it would be a problem for maintainace and impossible to mount item on the fork? I would love to hear your thought about this, your experience is very valuable.
@dejmullenscoolfoolgoals7503
6 ай бұрын
any link where i can buy just like your front hub thanks and ridesafe always
@scottdasilva902
3 ай бұрын
I appreciate your videos as I learn more about touring and the Rohloff setup. Is having to remove the back fender for a flat repair typical of Rohloff setups, this type of fender, or how the Rohloff is adapted into the Ogre frame?
@RollingExistence
3 ай бұрын
The rohloff needs some way to tension the chain, so it's a problem that all bicycles that achieve rohloff compatibility via a sliding rear dropout will have. Other bicycle frames use an eccentric bottom bracket or some other method to allow for chain tensioning and they won't have the same problem.
@scottdasilva902
3 ай бұрын
@@RollingExistence Thank you for the detailed answer, this is really helpful for me as I make decisions. All the best.
@katjasendmayr1342
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video... I have several things different on my touring bike, but I#m not travelling around the world of course... By the way, "adult woman", his name is Grogu, not "Baby-Yoda" ;-) Regards from Austria!
@상한가-h4c
Жыл бұрын
대빨이 유투브 보고 왔어요~~부럽습니다. 건강하고 즐겁게 여행 마치시기를 기도합니다.
@tcrwild8422
2 жыл бұрын
Very cool stuff.. I would like to do this some day but i am goin for weight light set up.. Using my specialized sirrus that ive rode over 40k miles so far... Love the geometry of the older school sirrus frames.. Mine is a 2011 an can fit nice wide tires 40c which for me is perfect for all conditions as i can ride anything haha... Very cool video willl save the channel an come back to check in later👍
@RollingExistence
2 жыл бұрын
The biggest downside to our setup is that it's extremely heavy, a more lightweight setup would be nice. We plan to ride the Baja Divide on these bikes, and a 40c tire would struggle in the deep sand there. We'll be on 29x2.6s for that section.
@maciejkolwas2389
Жыл бұрын
Super 😊
@secretdaisy6484
Жыл бұрын
I’m watching as many touring videos to learn what others are doing. My Kona Sutra came the first week of the pandemic and hasn’t yet been used but it’s scheduled for a US coast to coast trip. After that I plan to upgrade to a Tout Terrain with belt drive and Rohloff hubs for a trip to Scandinavia 🏔which is particularly why I’m watching your videos. For my US trip I’m going to pull a BOB trailer to lessen weight on the bike and allow for more carry capacity. For Europe I’ll be using front & rear panniers like you. I plan to go mountain biking out West 🏜 but I have bikes for that and don’t plan anything longer than a possible overnighter off road. I’m basically a roadie. I have all my gear except an add on for my bike that stores energy while pedaling for GPS, phone and iPad or small ChromeBook. Also getting a Garmin InReach for safety since I’ll be alone 🏕. Thanks for going over your bike setups. I’m enjoying your travel videos and will watch them all. 👍☮️🌞🚵♀️🚵♂️❤️
@wolfnorth7075
Жыл бұрын
Rohloff internal gear, it is perfect for your around world tour, but it is just beyond my wallet.
@sallyrosser4590
2 ай бұрын
do you both or one of you use padded shorts? Ive heard often they are not necessary after awhile of touring?
@kevindean9613
Жыл бұрын
Great videos thanks , I've noticed that you have Tubus Duo racks ,I can't seem to get my Ortlieb gravel bags to hook up with both hooks ,Do you use the same bags ?
@RollingExistence
Жыл бұрын
No, we have Bedrock Bags Hermosa Panniers on the front racks. We decided against the Ortlieb bags up front because we weren't sure how they would connect to the Tubus Duo.
@donmulvey9280
Жыл бұрын
Why did you choose gearhub over pinion gearbox? It seems like you started with a frame set and built up the bike. Would you go with a gearhub again if you built new bikes? Just discovered rolling existence ... love your videos!
@RollingExistence
Жыл бұрын
We chose Rohloff over Pinion mainly due to price. We were able to get our Ogre frames for $700 each and the Rohloffs for $900 each. The cheapest Pinion and frame combination would be thousands more. Also the Rohloff has a longer record of durability. There are many advantages to the Pinion, but these bikes were a budget compromise.
@donmulvey9280
Жыл бұрын
I just logged into my gmail account and discovered your reply. Thanks so much. Appreciate the insights. Safe travels! -d@@RollingExistence
@viveviveka2651
Жыл бұрын
What about Shimano hydraulic brakes that use mineral oil? The feel of the ones I have is great. I've also used mechanical disc brakes. They're very good, and definitely preferable to rim brakes; but they don't reach the level of the hydraulics. The hydraulics are just soooooo nice.
@RollingExistence
Жыл бұрын
Before we went on the tour, we had mountain bikes with hydraulic disc brakes. One day we decided to go out on a ride and took our bikes in the car with the front wheel removed, but forgot the little plastic shim to put between the brake pads on one of the bikes. The front brake lever got bumped, the front brake seized, and we had to drive back home and bleed the brake lines to get the bike rideable again. That convinced us that we didn't need the extra power and risk associated with hydraulic fluid and lines, especially when traveling to remote locations like Laos (where we are currently). It's easy to find a brake cable anywhere in the world, not so easy to deal with a leaky brake caliper or finding hydraulic brake fluid or even mineral oil. Yes, we could probably get some from a motorcycle/scooter shop, but that's just not something we have to worry about with our current setup. Andrew worked at a mountain bicycle shop in Moab and issues with hydraulic brakes were definitely not rare. We've had no issues stopping with our mechanical disc brakes, even on 45kg bikes and 2000 meter descents in the Alps.
@GreyFoxTube
Жыл бұрын
@@RollingExistence Agree. Hydraulic brakes are more for sports, mechanical brakes are quite enough for tourism. For 3 years with simple Shimano mechanical brakes and no problem!
@evakostrowski3021
9 ай бұрын
Hi there, thanks a lot for this Video! May I ask what your height is and what sizing you have chosen for your bikes?
@RollingExistence
8 ай бұрын
Jenny is 5'9" and has a medium. Andrew is 6' and has a large. We're both happy with those choices.
@rigorevangelista9875
Ай бұрын
How many gears does your internal shifter have? are 8 speed fine for touring?
@RollingExistence
Ай бұрын
Rohloff has 14 gears, I don't think 8 would be ideal.
@chacmool2581
Жыл бұрын
How do the bikes cost in total? Another major disadvantage of the Rohloff that always goes unmentioned is the price.
@RollingExistence
Жыл бұрын
They are about $4500 each including all racks, bags, etc. Definitely on the expensive side but we decided the investment would be worth it since we planned to ride for 3+ years.
@GaryTR35
2 жыл бұрын
Nice setup. Have you ever considered a carbon belt instead of a chain?
@pauldenney7908
2 жыл бұрын
I was going to ask that, I have seen Surly Ogres with them.
@RollingExistence
2 жыл бұрын
We considered carbon belts but our frames don't have a split and we weren't aware of the belts that don't need a split frame when we put our bikes together. We are definitely interested in switching to a belt setup at some point. Cleaning and lubing the chain is about the only chore we have to do on our bikes, so it would be nice to not even have to worry about that!
@petesig93
2 жыл бұрын
Using a carbon-belt drive system requires the carrying of a spare carbon belt on a long tour like this. They CAN break, even after a short time, if a stick or stone gets caught up. The carbon belt is quite expensive and a lot more bulky than just carrying a few spare chain links. Because of this I much rather stick with the tried and tested chain. Relubing it every 400-600km is no great chore.
@svendvanderveken4024
2 жыл бұрын
I just finished a 2500km tour in central Europe with a Rohloff+belt equipped bike, I would no longer consider going back to a chain. In very rainy or muddy weather the belt keeps being efficient while the oil on the chain may be washed away. Mud will accelerate the belt and sprocket wear though, so it's best to clean it when possible, which is as simple as spraying water and using a toothbrush. A chain makes my hands very dirty any time I need to touch it, which can be an issue when doing stealth camping with low amount of available water. The belt needs to be changed every 4 years or 100000km and is indeed more expensive and bulky than chain spare parts. A belt is by no mean a necessity of course and chains are fine, though IMHO the improvement in quality of life while touring is well worth the investment. I notice electrical bikes are more and more equipped with them, so maybe over time it's going to be more commonly found in bike shops.
@petesig93
2 жыл бұрын
@@svendvanderveken4024 you must be using the incorrect type of chain lubricant. I have a very good lubricant which attracts low amounts of dirt and gunk, does not get washed off in the rain, and lasts me about 400-600km between reapplications. I never go handling the chain, even when 'stealth-camping'. Here in Australia we just call it bush-camping, and if I need to relube the chain I wipe it down with a rag first. Water is not required.
@Hootyhoo-jq9vq
7 ай бұрын
Are you using presta valves in you andra 40 rims? I ask because I want to get some of these rims, but I noticed they only come with schrader holes. Do you use adapters? Thanks, sorry to ask such silly questions.
@RollingExistence
7 ай бұрын
We only use Schrader tubes, but we carry a couple of the adapters in the event we can only find presta tubes. Schrader valves are just better all around, on a long tour presta is a liability and offers no advantage in a wide mountain bike rim.
@kevinseversonandhisvizslas8287
Жыл бұрын
is the bell loud enough?
@RollingExistence
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it works pretty well!
@elachichai
Жыл бұрын
Do you also have an opinion for a lever shift instead of fist grab dial?
@RollingExistence
Жыл бұрын
We prefer the lever shifts but the fist grab dial has grown on us. It's a bit of a pain to swap the Rohloff shifting mechanism out for any other style of shifter so we just decided to stick with it, and it's gotten to the point where it's no longer an issue. Our old touring bikes used Microshift bar end shifters mounted on Paul Thumbies, which we probably slightly preferred over the dial shifters.
@elachichai
Жыл бұрын
@@RollingExistence Thanks. It appears that the Bar end shifter is not ergonomic or aesthetic. The MTB like thumb shifters causes least fatigue. Are the twist shifters smooth? Won't be as smooth as a radio volume dial...
@hoser7706
Жыл бұрын
What tent, sleep and cook systems do you use? Well presented setups, thanks. 😁
@RollingExistence
Жыл бұрын
We're using a Hilleberg Anjan 2 tent, an MSR Dragonfly and a bushbuddy wood burning stove, and we use enlightened equipment 20f quilts. We'll be doing a video on our other gear soon.
@ashleyhoward8926
Жыл бұрын
I ride a very similar British built Thorn Nomad with Rohloff & Son. I think you have done very well regarding reliability & spare parts, but I was surprised to see you have gone through 6 pair of brake pads each. Do you consider that a normal duration? I have Hope hydruailic discs. Very well done to both of you !
@RollingExistence
Жыл бұрын
The brakes we have, Avid BB7s, are designed so that only one pad moves, pushing the rotor into the other pad. Unfortunately, the design makes it so that one pad always wears out a little faster than the other, so that has contributed to the amount of pads we have gone through. We also went through pads quickly during the rainy winter in the Mediterranean, going up and down the steep mountains of Greece with all day downpours really went through the pads quick.
@johngulino2651
Жыл бұрын
I’ve always used a plain old-fashioned chain on my bikes; but, regardless, my question is: any reason why you have chains instead of belts on your bikes?
@RollingExistence
Жыл бұрын
We considered carbon belts, but our frames don't have a split and we weren't aware of the belts that don't need a split frame when we put our bikes together. We are definitely interested in switching to a belt setup at some point, though the chain has the advantage of being able to replace anywhere in the world.
@sun27g
Жыл бұрын
what is the frame size for the blue surly ogre ?
@RollingExistence
Жыл бұрын
It is a medium 👍
@BrianRPaterson
Жыл бұрын
No kidding about rim-brakes. I live in Asia, and rim brakes suck whenever it rains hard. My road/gravel bike has Magura HS22 hydraulic rim brakes, which just about work in the wet. But only just. And i you pick up any speed, it takes ages to slow down, let alone stop. If I could fit disc brakes, I'd do it in a heartbeat. And I would not buy a new bike if it did not have discs. Happy trails Cheers
@GordoGambler
Жыл бұрын
SA XL-FDD dyno DRUM brakes are infallible on the front hub. Set and forget for 30,000 miles. Disc pads maybe last 5,000 in muddy places.
@brianmoroney3448
2 жыл бұрын
Your v luckie to do what you did im impressed how do u cope with traffic
@RollingExistence
2 жыл бұрын
We try to stay on smaller side roads as much as we can, but if we have to ride in traffic we wear high-vis vests and use blinking lights to be as visible as possible.
@IKSFaktor
Жыл бұрын
Hi, i love your video’s. And now i bought a brim and have one question about that: how and where do you store your brim when you don,t use it, and protect it?
@RollingExistence
Жыл бұрын
We keep them on our helmets most of the time, but when it's really windy we just slide them in the back of a pannier so they don't get bent.
@vincentborst5205
Жыл бұрын
@@RollingExistence Thanks.
@youngsikjun6274
Жыл бұрын
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@dviraciaizvejyba7675
Жыл бұрын
👍
@jotsingh8917
7 ай бұрын
And how much did you spent on this set-up? $5 K or more?
@RollingExistence
7 ай бұрын
$4500 in 2020, doing all the labor ourselves.
@anujkumawat7359
2 жыл бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@THEBLACKANARCHIST
Жыл бұрын
How u like the fork
@RollingExistence
Жыл бұрын
The stock ogre fork? Or do you mean having a rigid fork? The Ogre fork is alright, it's got a ton of water bottle mount options and takes a lot of different front racks, but it's nothing special. We prefer having a rigid fork over a suspension fork because it requires less maintenance. Over the 14,000 miles of our tour, we would have had to service a suspension fork multiple times and we would have to worry about the seals failing and leaving us stranded. We spend most of the time on the road or on easy gravel, so we don't feel the need for a suspension fork.
@THEBLACKANARCHIST
Жыл бұрын
@@RollingExistence much appreciated 👍
@zekai.ozpolat
Жыл бұрын
Hello, can you share the front light brand and model of your bike? Thanks.
@RollingExistence
Жыл бұрын
The front light is a Sinewave Cycles Beacon and our bike frames are Surly Ogres.
@MrJx4000
2 жыл бұрын
Do your tires not have that Kevlar protective barrier under the outer tread?
@RollingExistence
2 жыл бұрын
Both tires we've used on this trip have some sort of Kevlar-like protection but I don't think Schwalbe is allowed to call it 'kevlar' for copyright reasons. The Marathon Mondial (our first set of tires) and the Marathon GT 365 (our current tires) both are rated 6 out of 7 on Schwalbe's puncture protection scale and they claim to have " 2 layers of nylon carcass and 2.5mm flexible special India rubber offers protection of the highest level. " In our experience the only thing that has caused punctures have been large metal spikes and one huge piece of sharp glass.
@mikemichaels4500
Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't changing the oil in your hub every 5000 km be more of a hassle than disc brakes?
@RollingExistence
Жыл бұрын
We have disc brakes, they just don't require fluid. We've used both mechanical and hydraulic disc brakes extensively and we don't feel the need to use hydraulics when our mechanical discs work just fine and don't have the potential to leak or need bleeding. Changing the Rohloff oil is a bit of an annoyance but we've had no issue shipping the oil change kit to a hotel ahead of us when we need it. In southeast Asia we've just carried the required 50ml of fluid each.
@mikemichaels4500
Жыл бұрын
@@RollingExistence I meant to say hydraulic disc brakes. I see your point. A leaking hose would be a little harder to fix.
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