I for one, would love more "Commanders We Might Eventually Get Around to Building" episodes.
@ALTR_no_EGO
Жыл бұрын
Gentlemen... If you do get around to an all Titania pod, it should be titled "Clash of the Titanias". 😂
@euthanasiothehospiceclown6480
Жыл бұрын
M❤ll0l😊
@hopposai787
Жыл бұрын
stenn, paranoid partisan. only has 275 decks. i recently discovered him while looking for cards for a vehicles deck i was building. he's pretty high powered artifact commander. i run him as a mystic top combo enabler. and u/w have the best arti tutors so it's pretty easy to get it out and blue has the counters for protection.
@mm234753
Жыл бұрын
Hey one of those 215 Rona decks is mine! I use an artifact storm strategy though and just use Rona as another recursion piece for my wincons.
@BobbyBev95
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been struggling to pick a mono red commander, never thought to consider something like Nassari with two sides. That seems like it would be awesome!
@mfitkin
Жыл бұрын
FINALLY one of them responds to Joey’s intro joke
@moxcardboardtv8797
Жыл бұрын
Discussion actually starts @7:00
@daguynexdoor
Жыл бұрын
It's crazy how many decks I say "I'll totally get to building this, right after I build these other 3 decks." Then repeat the process every month or so whenever there are new Commander cards printed
@andrewsparkes6275
Жыл бұрын
41:35 Neyith says hi!
@paulcurtis2380
Жыл бұрын
Blind Seer look at his page so many fun options and he can do so much. 313 is criminally low. he can voltron, combo, control, cedh level or budget. 100% my favorite deck.
@kajillion3238
Жыл бұрын
By no means is Winota, Joiner of Forces underplayed, but only 6 of her nearly 5000 decks are Werewolf tribal. That is a shame because the play pattern of werewolves cards is perfect for her. They're humans in the library but once they've transformed they stop being human and can trigger her ability.
@Zakading
Жыл бұрын
Rona would be pretty solid if her tap ability cost only 2 mana. A 4 mana tax is just so heavy.
@danielgoldberg2129
Жыл бұрын
And her main ability is an ETB trigger so you’d have to be constantly blinking her to make it work. Just too many moving parts to align.
@SamuelKacerik
Жыл бұрын
The bad thing is you can only have one card exiled with her ability.
@Zakading
Жыл бұрын
@@SamuelKacerik You could definitely have more using untap equipment/enchantments and a cheaper mana cost on her tap ability, but alas, why do that when you can also just play a commander 4hat draws you those cards instead
@iceman1866
Жыл бұрын
Finally as one of the few General Kudro players it feels good to have the general get the shout out he deserves
@Havok.93
Жыл бұрын
I feel like a commander isn't "underplayed" when they're literally just bad. Rona isn't good. You can cast things exiled by her, which costs 4 and a tap. You get no benefit of casting those very few exiled cards. She really shouldn't even exist.
@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle
Жыл бұрын
Found the CEDH player
@teradul2480
Жыл бұрын
Matt, I'm sorry, but 77% is not complementary with 33%, unfortunately. Much like half of 550 isn't 225.
@twurtle4136
Жыл бұрын
I’m glad Matt let us know that 77% + 33% = 100% 49:47 😂
@Boblol126
Жыл бұрын
I have a Vohar reanimator deck. It’s especially sweet as a reanimator commander because not only does it give you cheap card selection, but it also can recycle your reanimation instants and sorceries in a pinch
@jordangroblewsky2087
Жыл бұрын
And it doesn't even look that threatening. When commanders like Korvold and Kenrith exist, a 2-mana uncommon legendary creature with an activated ability that costs *mana* is super fair.
@FalseOracle617
Жыл бұрын
@@jordangroblewsky2087 And then there's Kinnan, who is two mana, in Simic, absolutely ridiculous static ability and a busted activated ability. If Kinnan was five or six mana, id still have built it. Silly commander.
@troacctid
Жыл бұрын
The Jasmine Boreal of the Seven deck that I initially built as a gimmicky joke ended up pleasantly surprising me by how fun and effective it was. I think her mana ability is a trap, and vanilla creatures suck. However, her second ability makes most creature tokens functionally unblockable, and that has actually led to a really cool take on a Selesnya Tokens build focusing on saboteur effects, as well as the Monarch and the Initiative. There are a lot of go-wide commanders in that color pair that are probably more exciting, so it makes sense that she would be crowded out. But I definitely underestimated her, and I bet others are underestimating her too.
@DROSTAR123
Жыл бұрын
i didn't even know that titania even existed o.O
@amc6169
Жыл бұрын
It is important to note, Rona can only have one card exiled by her ETB at a time. every time she leaves the field it is a different card and does not remember previously exiled cards. However, she has some strange interactions with auras and equipment. If you can assemble some way to have her exile things via some ability, it still counts and they can be cast this way. This is notable as she works well with Kaldra Compleat, as if you exile an opponents creature, you can then cast that creature. It is a niche interaction, but it is cool.
@hopposai787
Жыл бұрын
i'm pretty sure yarok and panharmonicon can get you a second card.
@Jerhevon
Жыл бұрын
There's usually rules about "linked abilities". Aggravating rules.607 in the rulebook. So Rona only lets you cast cards she exiled with her ETB or her 4-mana tap ability. Otherwise Mairsil could cage an Isochron scepter and do really silly things.
@smtyke
Жыл бұрын
I think they mean: if Rona gets blinked or removed before she can cast the card(s) she exiled, the previously exiled card can’t be cast anymore because Rona is a new game object and doesn’t see them anymore.
@Fenrirsuneater69
Жыл бұрын
Saw ledgermain in action last night. It saved the table from a jodah the unifier deck that was about to win on turn 5. The cool thing about jodah decks is that they don't really work when jodah is an egg token instead of jodah.
@bryankopkin6869
Жыл бұрын
Seeing the Polukranos, Unchained made me think of my Grakmaw, Skyclave Ravager deck! Its a +1/+1 counter sacrifice deck and it performs really well.
@afspeellijstnaruto
Жыл бұрын
I gave up on my Grakmaw.
@bryankopkin6869
Жыл бұрын
@@afspeellijstnaruto Dang. Sorry to hear that. Hes one of my favorites
@afspeellijstnaruto
Жыл бұрын
@@bryankopkin6869 it's just that it kind of needs the expensive staples to really make it work for me. Doubling Season and the like. I can proxy....but I don't like doing that when I don't own the card
@willmcgee8379
Жыл бұрын
Dana starting it off with literally my favorite deck, as Rona, Disciple of Gix leads my Tezzeret deck (most Tezzeret's, cards from the Magic 2012 Tezzeret deck and other thematic spells). Most games I may not cast Rona, but she fills a key role for me whenever she gets back a key planeswalker or artifact I need. And yes, I love her art as well, spot on Dana!
@Jerhevon
Жыл бұрын
What's not to love about Rona being an Eternal Witness in the command zone? Plus a few more things legendary or artifact than one might think, and also Sagas. On MTGO I just had a Rona Grind time deck, Using her to recast and reuse all sorts of things like that that Dimir usually doesn't have access to in the graveyard.
@zealcrux
Жыл бұрын
Aw jeez. I think I’m sold on Eisenhorn
@fro5235
Жыл бұрын
Dangit. The tomb sentinel thing got me too. It's easy to forget that cards go through the stack that way. Perils of shortcutting
@Chaves-yy2ij
Жыл бұрын
Really cool to have my challenge in the cast! One of those strange ones that I stumbled onto. Thanks for your work again, Joey, Dana, and Matt
@eskimoprime09
Жыл бұрын
I've found a fun way to play a lot of underplayed commanders. I've built a couple "tribal commander" decks. Basically you pick a few commanders that are all sort of doing similar things, and build a deck that would work for any one of them. Include all those commanders in the deck as well. When you shuffle up and play, pick one of those to be your commander for that game, or do what I do and pick one at random. I currently have a Selesnya tokens and a Gruul stompy deck built this way, with I think 10-15 commanders in each.
@kamakazi339
Жыл бұрын
Hey oh! I have 2 Rona decks! Rona is a good Stax commander btw Also, I definitely took Jarina off the top of that precon for General Kudro because the third color added almost nothing and General Kudro is much better.
@mmartak
Жыл бұрын
My favorite underplayed commander is Kogla, the Titan Ape. Not only are there ways of making it combo, but there are lots of ways to use Kogla's second ability to destroy any one permanent on the board every time it attacks: Liquimetal Torque, Liquimedal Coating, Mycosynth Lattice, even Ashnod's Transmogrant.
@atomocene
Жыл бұрын
Liquimetal Torque is one of my all-time favorite cards for exactly this reason.
@jefferymuter4659
Жыл бұрын
The Ever-Changing Dane is an incredibly broken commander with a couple hundred decks
@KingDavid12DT
Жыл бұрын
Mimic Vat is a pet card of mine. For around 25 cents, it has the ability to shut down a key piece of reanimator, or just do massive damage for just 3 mana. A staple card in any list
@caasIsirhC
Жыл бұрын
I ordered Canoptek Tome Sentinel for Chainer and kicked myself two seconds later when I remembered the same nonbo with Flayer of the Hatebound. Sigh!
@mehalld
Жыл бұрын
Can I question Matt's math skills? 77% + 33% isn't 100%, unless he wants 110% of Galina decks to be running the Leyline....
@ty_sylicus
Жыл бұрын
Neat idea for a topic. Should we all built at least one of these for laughs in 2023? BTW. I posted this comment before watching the video. Haha
@EpicGamerz01
Жыл бұрын
One thing to note about Polukranos: it is in green, so it has some access to Shield Counters, and being able to put a shield counter on him can allow him to fight once without losing any counters
@markbrierley6367
Жыл бұрын
The problem with joint exploration is that it's not the second copy, it's the third. Explore is a card and ramping on 2 is more popular than ramping on 3.
@jordansams6240
Жыл бұрын
I recently built a Syr Elenora, The Discerning deck with a focus on anything that lets me draw a huge amount of cards at instant speed. And holy cow is it so easy to build that as a hand size matters voltron deck where you are regularly clocking people for 15+ commander damage at once.
@afspeellijstnaruto
Жыл бұрын
I made a pauper deck with her. Gave her unblockable at one point and one shotted an edgar player in 1 vs 1. I used Aetherize the turn before though.
@jordansams6240
Жыл бұрын
@@afspeellijstnaruto yeeeesssss, i like throwing a grafted exoskelton or corrupted consience on her to give her suprise infect as well
@darthemphatic4654
Жыл бұрын
It's like Dana forgot Skullbriar existed. There's not a more quintessential golgari Voltron +1/+1 matter commander out there
@bobbycallaway1819
Жыл бұрын
As a (reluctantly) admitted hipster builder like Dana, I'm quite excited to hear this episode.
@curiouschao1
Жыл бұрын
Funny, I was just brewing up Eisenhorn and my approach was going to be using a ton of cantrips, village rites variants, and things that sac creatures to destroy other creatures. Buut now, I gotta add a little of this artifact support..
@raeneghis
Жыл бұрын
Flavorwise I like the Nephilim because they're weird and mechanically I like them because they're also weird (these are underplayed commanders because they do not say legendary on the card (even though they should (maro said so once so it must be true :P))). Having made and played decks for all five, gotta say that the one that activates my almonds the most is Ink-Treader, which plays a fair bit like Zada Hedron Grinder does with the bonus of copying spells to every creature on the table (not just yours) and being four color instead of monored. The wider color identity gives better options for spells that create more creature tokens for you to copy later spells onto such as croaking counterpart (zada only gets two, and both will kill any x/1 creatures (like most goblin tokens)) which lets it get out of control super fast, but my favorite FAVORITE part is that wurg gives access to enough Arcane spells for a splice build to be completely usable. The way Splice onto Arcane works is that as you cast an arcane spell you can pay the splice cost of any cards in your hand to add their effects to the spell you are casting. This is basically how mutate works except applied to spells and should be pretty self-explanatory. Kidding. Here's an example So let's say I cast Kodama's Reach (land ramp sorcery with the arcane subtype) and Splice the card Evermind onto it ('draw a card' card with splice onto arcane). By splicing Evermind I reveal it, but it stays in my hand (to be spliced another day) and the spell Kodama's Reach (now on the stack) has the effect of "land ramp + draw a card". Cool! DIY (overpriced) ramp that cantrips! Now if I had spliced Psychic Puppetry instead (tap or untap target permanent spell with splice onto arcane), I could have Kodama's Reach (+ Psychic Puppetry) target Ink-Treader, who would then copy it for every targetable creature on the field, which is the kind of wacky weirdness what makes this particular build stand out to me imho
@thegreatestblood
Жыл бұрын
I would love it if you'd cover Saverok, Deathbringer. I've switched Backgrounds for him from Criminal Past, to Cultist of the Absolute, to finally Raised by Giants. However, I've been wanting to change the deck around a little to maybe include a +1/+1 counter sub-theme. As my favorite character from the first PC game I ever played, Baldur's Gate, I really want to do him justice :D
@TheSilverFox442
Жыл бұрын
Sarevok and Raised by Giants actually came up in a previous episode (went and checked, it's 224). Dana mentioned that in playtesting, it was a lot harder to reliably get the trigger than you might think, thanks to the abundance of sacrificeable tokens like treasures and the like that are floating around nowadays.
@thegreatestblood
Жыл бұрын
@@TheSilverFox442 I must have forgotten about that episode. Going back, I do remember it now but yes I was aware already that getting his trigger to go off would be nigh impossible mostly because of what you said, but also because there's no card that just outright prevents sacrifice. It's a shame.
@TheSilverFox442
Жыл бұрын
@@thegreatestblood Yeah, that's unfortunately out of color for that pair, since I think all the existing examples of that effect are in white.
@ZachtheUnbowed
Жыл бұрын
The strixhaven flip legends make me sad…. I really think they should’ve been separate cards that partnered with each other. I think they would be more played if that were the case
@vincent-antoinesoucy1872
Жыл бұрын
I know right! They are just interacting with each other, it's not bad to play one side, it is just sad, you see that you don't get the interaction.
@thetogtube2
Жыл бұрын
Polukronos Slaps!!! My son and I built an awesome deck with it. Super fun.
@thetogtube2
Жыл бұрын
His deck is a bit of removal tribal… very grindy and has fun win cons like Alter of Dementia etc etc.
@ColorwaveCraftsCo
Жыл бұрын
“Commanders we might eventually get around to building” doesn’t have as much of a ring to it lol
@blakem000
Жыл бұрын
Eisenhorn + Hatred....Holy Moly!
@spurcalluth6300
Жыл бұрын
B can make an urn burn.
@CrabBaskets
Жыл бұрын
Commanders that I find underplayed / want to see more: Grakmaw, Skyclave Ravager (252 decks) - Take everything Dana mentioned about Polukranos and apply it here. I think Golgari voltron / +1 counters would be very fun. I like Grakmaw with its die clause being able to replace itself with a X/X token version and doesnt feel as bad of a loss. Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet - I have a feeling its price tag of around 20 bucks is why its only at 210 decks. I like that it has graveyard hate on a body (sorry Joey), and you could do Vampire or Zombie tribal. I would lean to making it Zombie tribal and feed my zombies to Kalitas to make it bigger and go voltron style. Tromokratis (120 decks) - ok, I am finding I just want more voltron commanders lol. Pretty mana intensive 5UU for a 8/8 that's hexproof when attacking or blocking. And you can force defending player to block with all of their creatures. I want a deck where you run cards like Sleep and Flood, and so tapping people's stuff down and beating down with a 8/8 seems like a fun time.
@domotoro3552
Жыл бұрын
i was thinking golgari voltron with vorolz i also have a pretty voltrony old stickfingers that plays super fun
@scuttlebus
Жыл бұрын
My favorite commander that should see more play is quintorius field historian. A boros reanimate deck with a very similar ability to tormod, but also acts as an anthem for spirits. There are just a lot of cool and fun synergies that i found myself playing and it’s just a fun and fair commander
@Thundrbeard
Жыл бұрын
Hell yes quintorious has so much to offer. He’s reason I built a mardu deck with tormod + bruse(only for colors) focused on leaves the grave triggers.
@JessBritvec
Жыл бұрын
General Marhault Elsdragon is kind of amazing. I have a deck that puts Lure effects on Stuffy Doll type creatures with General M in the 99 (Minsc is the commander just because that card fits better with the Stuffy Dolls), they make the strategy so much more viable by almost guaranteeing your blocked creatures survive combat. You can play the cheaper Lure effects that don't pump your creatures, which means you can Lure every turn (provided you have one in your hand). If I didn't want to do my Stuffy Doll idea so badly The General would be my choice.
@CaptainVryce
Жыл бұрын
With Inquisitor Eisenhorn, if you can make him unblockable and have a Tamio's Journal then you're tutoring every turn.
@Medicinalmagic911
Жыл бұрын
2dh competitive budget format? Portland Oregon. Commander can’t be over $5. All 99 must be less than $2 each…
@jaredstivers
23 күн бұрын
That interest, i also like to do Artisan Commander since it only Cards with common or Uncommon Printing. Other then the tap land, it quite a deep and competitive deck build
@Medicinalmagic911
23 күн бұрын
@@jaredstivers I am a fan of two dollar maximum because it helps the stores locally move some of their bulk product and the format is always in flux as new cards come out and price changes happen
@edwardphillips6945
Жыл бұрын
I have a Polukranos deck! I actually put a load of self-mill/Dredge cards and payoffs in there as well as the +1 +1 counter stuff, just coz I thought Dredge didn’t see enough play in Commander. I love constantly bringing him back from the Graveyard as a beefcake.
@Tuss36
11 ай бұрын
My underplayed pick would be Kurbis, Harvest Celebrant. While I wouldn't expect it to reach the top of the rankings, it blows my mind that stuff like Iwamori of the Open Fist has more decks than it (as of this comment). I think if Kurbris gave indestructible folks would be all over it, but feel like damage immunity isn't as useful. When really it's just begging to start a fight club where your buffed up dudes never falter, and/or combat triggers where you can swing around whatever big blockers they've got because you can just blank their damage.
@seaweedsoupmeowington9429
Жыл бұрын
a friend has a CRAZY ppolukranos deck
@JustABrokenToy
Жыл бұрын
I have a Nassari deck (never cast Uvilda) and it is quite fun to play. Stolen Strategy on a stick makes for interesting games, but as Joey said, it's a classic deck archetype in a different color identity. I love that all the red color pairs have at least one exile-matters commander: Uvilda/Nassari in Izzet, Prosper in Rakdos, Faldorn in Gruul, and Bell Borca in Boros (Liara Portyr is more popular, I suppose, but I had to look that up). Another unusual deck I have is an Azorius infect/proliferate deck. Not a great color for that strategy, but that's part of the novelty (and makes an infect deck much more palatable imo).
@pauldyson8098
Жыл бұрын
Speaking of, Bell Borca is my favorite underrated commander!
@JustABrokenToy
Жыл бұрын
@@pauldyson8098 very nice! It's an enjoyable strategy, and clearly underrated in Boros and Izzet
@SirGrimLockSmithVIII
Жыл бұрын
Pulkranos Unchained also works well as a host for the Golgari side of the Ikoria mutation package.
@samuelhowarth9994
Жыл бұрын
Mina and Denn, Wildborn, currently at 661 decks. A 4/4 for 2RG, it let's you play an extra land on your turn, and has "RG, return a land you control to your hand: target creature gains trample until end of turn." We have two creatures now that can turn your creatures into forests. Ashaya, and Greenwarden, I think. So not only can you do the typical Gruul landfall stuff, made better by bouncing them back to your hand, but there are board states that allow you to get more value out of your creature ETBs in Gruul!
@raymondweiss7393
Жыл бұрын
I generally scroll through EDHREC's 'Top Commanders' until I get past 500-600 and start looking for interesting commanders from there. My favorite hipster commanders I own and play are Triad of Fates rank #1074 (Orzhov ETB/blink/combo), Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath rank #1037 (Group Slug), Ludevic, Vial Smasher, & Obosh companion rank #1031 (odd tribal/extra turns).
@dougrogers8259
8 ай бұрын
This Sunday!!! Titania-Mania!!! Watch this avatar crush Crush CRUSH the competition with an unrelenting pounding of 5/3 elementals. Be there as lands are played from graveyards, go into graveyards or just plan exile themselves!!!
@Archangel72985
9 ай бұрын
Dana talking about General Marhault Elsdragon and saying that there is nothing else that encourages you to play lots of Lure effects reminded me that I am literally right now building an Enkira, Hostile Scavenger deck for my son that runs multiple Lure effects. I am even running Tempting Licid, which I think should give me some hipster points. I realize that the Walking Dead Lair is regarded unfavorably and that the Universes within wasn't released until with WOE, but I still think it is underplayed at 86 decks. You have an indestructible in combat commander to make everything block and clear the way for your zombie horde. A sort of anti-voltron where you are trying to get everything except one creature through.
@999Lucas
Жыл бұрын
There were 328 non-reprint commanders in 2022, up from 192 in 2021, 184 in 2020, 78 in 2019, and 95 in 2018. That is a lot of commanders. Thats 877 unique commanders since 2018, out of the 1575 commander legal legendary creatures, which means about 56% of the eligible legendary creatures have been printed since 2018. (not:reprint legal:commander year>2017 t:legendary t:creature) / (not:reprint legal:commander t:legendary t:creature). I think this is what people are referring to when they talk about "product saturation", or "overwhelming amounts of spoilers". I think the limited review shows have it easy now! More than a third of all the cards ever printed have been printed in the last 5 years or less.
@afspeellijstnaruto
Жыл бұрын
I think Golgari has quite a bit of +1/+1 counter support/commanders already actually....Varolz the Scar Striped, Polukranos (Unchained), Grakmaw skyclave ravager, Reyhan, Skullbriar, Willowdusk (kind of). And part of them work with graveyards/death triggers...and that is what annoys me a bit about Golgari. It's doing a lot of the same stuff.
@dreddbolt
Жыл бұрын
> Underplayed Commanders - Alora, Merry Thief//Tavern Brawler Adventure spells featuring support from Lozhan (Dragons' Legacy), Lucky Clover, Passionate Archaeologist, Nalfeshnee, Wild Magic Sorcerer, Brainstorm, Brainstone, Conch Horn, Dream Cache, Riverwise Augur... and even the big mana value common adventure spell creatures.
@MattTHEWombat777
Жыл бұрын
I run a Reyhan Last of the Abzan & Gilanra, Caller of Wirewood deck as a golgari +1/+1 deck that is also Hydra tribal. Super powerful because most people run single target removal nowadays and less creature boardwipes, so killing a 12/12 Polukranos just puts those 12 counters onto any other creature. Combine with Master Chef/ Raised by Giants, Pridemalkin for trample, they go ham. Granted, Slurrk is more popular because it pushes ooze tribal, but Reyhan does so much mechanical work that Gilanra being a mana dork that also can draw cards when you play 6 drops, it’s a really good deck basis. I play hydra tribal, but you don’t have to. Also, hipster notice, there’s only 1 deck on EDHREC for Reyhan/ Gilanra. Reyhan/ Sluurk is way more popular, but I wanna flex ahah.
@ingolf82
Жыл бұрын
is 587 decks considered underplayed? it is ranked as number 698, between Donal, Herald of wings and Aryel, knight of windgrace. If so then Seton, Krosan Protector is mine. he is the O.G. "mana dork tribal" before Raggadragga came out, which I took him apart to build when Raggadragga came out. it's a 2/2 centaur druid legend for GGG that says: tap an untapped druid you control, add G to your mana pool. so with Seton out, you can play a 1 mana druid and immediately tap that druid for mana. the amount of time I've gone "1 mana, play a druid, tap that druid to play another one, and tap that to play something else" is very high and it's so fun every time. he has only, as I said 591 decks to his name. it is a commander from Odessey, so it's old, it says "legend" on it instead of legendary creature. another favourite of mine is Tana the Bloodsower & Malcolm, keen-eyed navigator, it has less than 700 decks (699), but that is a cEDH deck. my favourite New'ish commander, which only has 264 decks to his name is General Marhault Elsdragon because they reprinted the Rampage mechanic and made it better. Rampage doesn't trigger if you only have 1 blocker, but Marhault's ability does. He says: "whenever a creature you control becomes blocked, it gets +3/+3 until end of turn for EACH creature blocking it. so if you put a lure on a trampling creature and attack the guy with all the 1/1 elves, he is dead as the creature gets +3/+3 for each blocker and all must block if you have a lure on it. The reason I say they made it better is that Rampage only gives counters AFTER the first one, so if there is 1 blocker, it gets nothing, but Marhault changes that and says for every blocker. Joint Exploration is a card I found recently and put into a deck of mine, I think it's fantastic. another one is "Eurika Moment", it is the same but costs 4 mana and says "draw two cards, you may put a land from your hand on the battlefield" so if you want 3 of those effects, there is another one. Inquisitor Eisenhorn is really cool, I agree. sadly I already have a Dimir deck, I love Willhelt the rotcleaver. I don't like having 2 decks of the same colour. I might change my mind though. but yeah, very cool. for this reason, Inquisitor Eisenhorn goes in the 99 of my new Tivit, Seller of secrets extra turns deck. all the clues will be perfect for my time sieve combo. Edit: Ah, I see you bring up General Marhault Elsdragon. it's so awesome.
@jaredwonnacott9732
Жыл бұрын
Dang it, now I have to build rampage/lure tribal. One of my favorite underrated commanders is Subira, Tulzidi Caravanner. There are a lot of attack triggered pumps and damage doubling effects in red. You make your little 1/1 goblin unblockable for just a single mana, then pump it up to a 7/1. Oh, and it has double strike, and red sources deal double damage. Enjoy taking 28 damage from a 1/1. And that's not even taking her ability to draw cards or the fact that there are several red or colorless cards with infect. (Also, Joey, don't complain about my Cultural Exchange challenge. I challenged it as a Wilhelt addition. You should be stealing Matt's stuff.)
@ospero7681
Жыл бұрын
I've always had a soft spot for the legendary creatures from Legends, even though 95% of them are completely unplayable by today's standards. I use Hazezon Tamar as my commander in a Naya go-wide token strategy (though in fairness, that deck doesn't strictly speaking need its commander to win most of the time), but as far as unique ideas go, I'm wondering if some kind of Bant pillowfort strategy using Angus Mackenzie as the commander might be viable. I'm not much of a deckbuilding guy, though, so my version of that would probably just throw together a ton of Propaganda and Fog effects and call it a day.
@loganfendt4197
7 ай бұрын
Currently have a Vohar Cpedh deck and he’s a monster. He’s just straight value and you don’t need to rely on him. And currently I’m building a human tribal Kudro Midrange/Go Wide
@dapperghastmeowregard
9 ай бұрын
"You don't see a lot of Golgari +1/+1 Voltron." Me, who built Skullbriar solely because of his interaction with Ozolith: "Pardun?" :P
@michaelknopf3817
Жыл бұрын
I built Mina and Denn as a valakut deck. Just hide behind a glacial chasm and with M&D and storm cauldron you never don’t have a mountain to play. Copy valakut as many time as you can and you totally chip damage people out slowly or go for blowout wins with cards like boundless realms/reshape the earth/new frontiers/collective voyage/scapeshift
@jakepetropoulos1074
Жыл бұрын
So just to justify your guys call i have been playtesting a Vohar deck, and he very regularly gets something like drana or sheoldred revived from the graveyard turn 3, and turn 4 im bringing back an it that betrays, lord of the pit, jin gitaxias, its actually fucking horrifying.
@v1talsign393
Жыл бұрын
More of these type of videos would be awesome
@shaydeinsun
Жыл бұрын
Anax and Cymede + Crown of flames/ flickering ward + tons of mana = Boros overwhelming stampede. Put in a ton of mana rocks. Put in a ton of token generating cards. God eternal oketra, all the krenko’s, a secure the wastes
@floor_tank_shanks4194
Жыл бұрын
My Eisenhorn deck is actually pretty fun. Just make mechanized production your win con, and enjoy pumping out Clue tokens. Stuff it full of recursion instants and boom
@SuperRyanDarcy
Жыл бұрын
Volrath the fallen as a Voltron / mass reanimation commander Fill your graveyard with massive creatures and give him fear / intimidate to kill someone. Then if he gets removed start reanimating big black flyers from your graveyard :)
@erickcolon1670
Жыл бұрын
Karlach + sword Coast Sailor background. I was banned from using it in the store because I they couldn't stop me no matter how hard they tried
@delailama736
Жыл бұрын
Is there a problem with the podcast version of this show? I have tried different episodes on 2 apps and can only get about 8-9mins in before it stops.
@darkor7858
Жыл бұрын
In the polukranos segment how did you forget about my boy skullbriar as a +1/+1 counters commander in golgari
@xellsunday
Жыл бұрын
I think joint exploration is actually better than growth spiral. because you guarantee the land drop through the scry2
@furonet138
Жыл бұрын
21:15 "Plus-one counters Voltron isn't really strategy you see in Golgari colors" *Skullbriar would like to know your location*
@happybrain2674
Жыл бұрын
Sarulf, Realm Eater would be my choice of golgary +1/+1 counter but im a mean player :D
@rushclaw3706
Жыл бұрын
Polukranos is the best been playing him since I started playing commander at the start of 2022
@deeiiviiis
Жыл бұрын
Hey! great video, but, one question, what deckbuilding site do you recommend/use?
@theonedraven8007
Жыл бұрын
triad of fates counters matter or etb. new capenna/ozolith and all the untap target legendary support made them viable
@Toasty373
Жыл бұрын
I just made an Anafenza the foremost deck. Pretty interesting ways to spill and kill
@felmare101
Жыл бұрын
I am including wizard class in order to keep jin in the deck to allow us to draw and have no maximum hand size
@brendonford3838
Жыл бұрын
I like the thoughts on inquisitor eisenhorn, I think I did most of that in my Tivet, seller of secrets deck
@stickoIogy
Жыл бұрын
Please make a vid about Jon Irenicus, Shattered One! It's a really cool commander and it has a really fun niche
@curio_sphere
Жыл бұрын
No one needs to know about him my friend plays that deck and I stg black has horrendous creatures to give, he definitely stands up to zedruu D:
@BrootalMetalBanjo
Жыл бұрын
General Kudro is great, but he’s in the 99 of a Mardu Humans deck
@Enigmaessence
Жыл бұрын
As someone who has a Nassari deck, I love it. But I build it as an “I play your deck” style deck. Blue gives me all the clones I need to copy what’s on the battlefield, and Nassari and similar effects take it from the deck directly. And Joey directly called out like half the cards in the deck.
@Enigmaessence
Жыл бұрын
My favorite win with it was managing to assemble Mike-Trike from two different opponents decks
@rosethorn_48
Жыл бұрын
drakuseth voltron... give him deathtouch, lifelink, infect
@tkessel3866
Жыл бұрын
Is there a chance i can see the mono white superfriends deck i had the same idea and want to see other builds
@VinnieKielbasa
Жыл бұрын
49:59 Advanced math with Matt. "Good job 77% of deck builders. 33% get with the times."
@shaylic3795
Жыл бұрын
Definitely slotting Nasari into my Pako and Haldan Deck
@Cinomodium
Жыл бұрын
So I have a Voltron +1/+1 Counters Polukranos Unchained deck! I'm ecstatic to see you guys talking about it! Very underplayed and wish players could see the potential! Great video guys!
@danielscully449
Жыл бұрын
Zur Eternal Schemer has not got the excitement I think should have. Turn your enchantments into creatures, then clone them. Stack up brutal effects like Painful Quandary and Soul Barrier. You can Equip them with stuff like Illusionist bracers and double activated abilities like greed. Or you can pillowfort hard with Lightmine Field and Mark of Asylum effects to deathtouch ping any attackers that aren't yours. He is so interesting
@andrewsparkes6275
Жыл бұрын
31:29 - "Don't run good stuff; no-on tries to take it" is the basis of my Amareth deck: Just plenty of crappy 3-4cmc "Make a token"/"Draw a card" understatted ETBers that do nothing once they're on the board...becaaause my playgroup loves theft effects even in non-theft-centric decks. So for Mind Control or "You may cast by paying mana for it" theft effects my creature base is mostly unstealable, and even for Etali free-cast theft, they're usually not worth too much on their own being stolen here and there anyway. It works for my deck though because I can churn through the creature-heavy deck at an alarming rate with Amareth, and once I have a whole board of those unloved misfits and drop one of three evasive and/or buffing fatties (currently Pathbreaker Ibex, Steel-Plume Marshall and Thorn Elemental) and cast Mirrorweave, Sakashima's WIll or Echoing Equation on it, the sum becomes way greater than the crappy little parts!
@andrewsparkes6275
Жыл бұрын
I just realised my reply was a little too specific to my own deck...but that said, the wider lesson I've learnt is just don't overload your decks with stealable spells, else you'll be the main target if anyone does have a theft deck. Use the minimum possible amount of powerful win-cons and combo pieces you need in terms of redundancy, then load the rest of your deck up with normal fair draw/ramp/extra resources like tokens on creatures you can use for chump blockers. That way if people do wanna steal your deck, the chance of them hitting anything on the board is low unless/until you've commited to the win-con/combo turn and got foiled, or got extremely lucky off an Etali-style effect. Not every card in your deck needs to be (or should be!) the most high-powered stuff! It helps you fly under the radar if it isn't!
@andrewsparkes6275
Жыл бұрын
Alsooo, to carry on the ramble, Amareth is underplayed too. Probably because each archetype it can do is done better or more famously by other commanders; Chulane for creature value (this was the other choice for my commander but would have inspired too much hate), Tuvasa for Enchantress (though I'd argue unless you're going Voltron, Amareth is better as it can draw more cards), Roon for blink value. But even though I love my deck, I feel it is most primed to be the only real Bant Landfall commander out there. Load up your deck with 40+ lands and you'll be drawing an extra card 40% of the time, along with all your other triggers!
@empurress77
Жыл бұрын
My pick for favorite underplayed commander: Korona, False God. Add: a few Vows so it can't attack you, a Blazing Archon, a Karazikar, the Eye Tyrant, a Fumiko the Lowblood and the like, then watch as shenanigans ensue. Fun stuff. Why yes i do love janky decks.
@kamakazi339
Жыл бұрын
Hitting the end of the video (sorry my other comment I got excited by rona). Akuta, Born of Ash is a really underrated commander for discard decks. While tiny bones and Tergrid are kill on sight type of commanders, the Inherent reanimation of Akuta lends it's self to being a pretty good voltron commander with both of the aforementioned legends as secret commanders in the 99. Equipping Akuta with just an equipment or two makes it lethal in 2-3 hits and people will be forced to use removal on it just to see it come back the next turn. And at the point where Akuta becomes too expensive you reach the point where Tergrid and Tinybones are almost unstoppable.
@SamuelKacerik
Жыл бұрын
My suggestion for underplayed commander would be Zalto, Fire Giant Duke dungeon deck. If no one ever realised he is basically BDSM commander with his own dungeon. Pingers are self explanatory. There is handfull of stuff like Leather Armor etc. But you get bonus points if you persuade your friends to let you play Rod of Spanking which is not legal, does absolutely nothing but is thematic af.
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