Hey guys, thank you so much for the kind comments and the recommendations for our Trashed Diesel Tanks. We’ll begin working on the tanks this week, keep your 🤞🏻 and we’ll see how it goes. We spoke with the welder last year when we removed the first tank. He didn't have the proper fittings and wasn't in love with the 'cutting the bottom half off and replacing it idea'. He said he would do it but he recommended buying new tanks as the best solution. Enter COVID...and now he's stuck in New Zealand not able to get back to Tonga. As far as I know he was the only aluminum welder on the island. So it's back to a temporary repair for us😢 Kudos to all the people that answered the trivia at the end. We have LOADS of correct answers (we’ll make it more difficult next time) so we’ll choose one at random end of day tomorrow and let you know the winner in a pinned comment. Ok, back to boat work! 💘 Jason and Nikki
@Mickey3Gun
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe a coat of Flex Seal over the JB Weld might work as a rugged "bandaid"
@allviking5203
3 жыл бұрын
I hope you took Measurements and Pics of that Tank, forward them to the Curiosities Builder
@devinholland2189
3 жыл бұрын
You should look around for aluminium brazing rods for the tank. Some times called lowtemp welding rods or alumaloy. Real metal repair and easy to update with regular welding.
@nexusdodge
3 жыл бұрын
To make sure you found all the holes, you might want to put an air hose in the tank and use soapy water on the outside. Works for car tire holes... lol good luck!
@davidcole2441
3 жыл бұрын
Make sure that you take a wire brush to the holes and scuff up the metal to give the JB weld something to bond to. I would look into roll on bed liner for the bottom of the tanks. Very tough, resistant and chemicals. Pick up a 12v universal fuel pump from a auto parts store, great for fuel spills or whatever ya need. Good luck!
@Jeffy2n
3 жыл бұрын
Hi guys. For the fuel tank repair, since this it temporary until you can get some new tanks made I would have the tanks fixed with aluminum solder. I am sure even in Tongan there is a shop that can do this for you. If you determined to use the JB weld (I have used it for years as a auto mechanic) Cleaning it 95% of the repair. Use Brake clean and a brass brush to scrub out repair area. Use air pressure (10psi or less) to pressure up the tank and soak it down with a soapy dish soap water spray. Mark were the bubbles show up. When you go to put the JB weld on, use a wet/dry vacuum cleaner to put the tank into a vacuum, this will draw the JB weld into the through the hole. You do this on the first application. You do this for the first few minutes left it set up and do a second coating. After you have let it set up hard, put pressure back into the tank and recheck with soapy water that you have them all. I would then clean it one more time and use a hard epoxy Barrier type paint. This should keep it form corroding in that couple years your looking for while not adding to the demotion as it is very tight and unless your willing to cut that hole it fits into larger.......
@navion1946
3 жыл бұрын
Boat yards are full of boats that were neglected awhile. Many owners don’t want to work hard enough to make them nice again but here you are getting it done. You’re solid people and I love ya.
@mikereaves6911
3 жыл бұрын
On aircraft, they seal the inside of "wet wing" fuel tanks with a PRC sealant. It could be poured into your tanks, swished around, then the excess drained out. It stands up to jet fuel (kerosene), but you'd have to verify compatibility with diesel.
@johnharp3125
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason, I've had great luck using POR-15 fuel tank sealant kit with aluminum & steel tanks on different projects. Make sure to locate all leaks by partially filling the tank with soapy water and marking subject areas. Then let the tank dry, sand (fine grain pad), use brake cleaner to wash the areas and then repair all leaks using JB Weld. Again let the JB Weld dry and cure (24 hours) then carefully follow the instructions to internally clean and dry the tank before applying the coating. Again, follow instructions to let the coating dry properly. Use rubber sheet material (non-absorbent) inner tubes or old bike tire tread to place under the tanks when remounting. The process takes several days to complete but works well if the instructions and drying times are followed.
@carlnelson4413
3 жыл бұрын
You are right that the foam tape caused the corrosion. It kept the aluminum wet but with no oxygen circulation to form a protective oxide. When you put the tank back in try using hard neoprene rubber blocks that you glue to the fiberglass but just let the tank rest on the neoprene blocks - don't glue it. The neoprene absorbs no moisture and is hard so that moisture doesn't get held against the metal. Hold the tank in place with wood at the top of the tank. The higher you can get the tank out of the bilge water the better.
@leavetodaytravel
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jason and Nikki! I just wanted to say thank you. You and your channel inspired me and my husband to sell it all, buy an RV, start a KZitem channel, and we hope to eventually buy a boat and sail around the world! If it weren't for you, my husband would never have been able to convince me. We may be the poor man's Wynns, but we're having a blast!
@continental_drift
3 жыл бұрын
One of the things I admire about Jason is that he doesn't know how to do something he says so and then proptly studies up on how to do it. Nice editing of the walk.
@dalewatkins9889
3 жыл бұрын
I agree! We don't realize the additional time needed to get a good 'edit', and Jason got it right! Always appreciated!
@deraneaton2576
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, ho Minion! Away! Jason, Nikki -- RE: Fuel tank repair -- Some step-by-step from an engineer's viewpoint.... 1) Please force some air circulation into those tank compartments when inside them. Breathing those fumes had to be rough. Definitely wear a respirator, too. Scuba is the next choice for good air. The fuel fumes are also why hot work welding or brazing present a very obvious fire and/or explosive hazard without fully purging the tanks first. 2) Liquid dish soap solution to clean out the fuel and compartment residues. Manual scrub. Old socks or bundled shop rags make excellent mop swabs bound together with a string or zip tie on a broom handle or boat hook -- no need to dive into the diesel stink head first. 3) Fiberglassing over the JB Weld makes sense, but it's not necessary to cover the whole tank to secure it against future leaks. What is necessary: Tight seals enabled by extending the epoxy layer the fiberglass is saturated with, over a uniform surface. Details -- 3A) Sand and acetone clean the tank exterior intended for hole fill and overcoating down to a 400-grit uniform polish, starting with 100-grit to remove any corrosion, pits and scratches. This will also help the JB Weld bond better when it fills the holes, then sand those fill spots smooth, too, after the JB Weld cures. For 3C-3E, light 400-800 grit sanding between coats. 3B) Apply at most 2-3 layers of epoxy-saturated fiberglass over the leak, but then taper this down to one layer over a 4-6 inch span as you move higher up the tank. This resembles the scaffolding I had to rebuild inside S/V Windwalker's Elvstrom bailer wells to restore the wells' box tank-like structure within tight space tolerances, and still reuse the original hardware. 3C) Apply a finishing layer of thinned epoxy only as a topcoat, extending this 1-2 inches beyond the fiberglass lamination edge. 3D) Painting is not required, but applying a polyacrylic or urethane topcoat will secure the seal usefully well, filling any remaining fiberglass gaps without hurting the working clearances. 3E) My ears hurt hearing that second, screeching, viciously leaky fuel tank come out. Not only did Leopard lose its original design (which can now be reverse engineered), the clearance tolerances weren't well respected upon original manufacture when that design vanished. Those squeaky tank compartment top edges need honing down at least 1/16-in to 1/8-in around the full top lip perimeter before re-inserting the second tank. 4) Restoring tank mounts -- Recycle strips of waste tire rubber or shoe sole rubber. Either would work better than foam rubber for one reason: They don't absorb seawater. Hope this helps. Stay the course and you will arrive. S/V Windwalker
@jimengr
3 жыл бұрын
Hello guys love your videos. As a mechanical engineer for 30 years designing diesel driven equipment, I have a few comments. No boats though. The main take away from all the viewer comments that I would add to is definitely pressure test the tanks to check for leaks. Plug / cap /seal all the ports or connections. Easier said than done! Then, you can't just connect the tank to compressed air as of course that will ruin (explode) the tank. Get a pressure regulator and a shutoff valve. Using compressed air and the regulator, pressurize tank to 5-7 psi (0.5 bar or 50kPa) then shut off valve. Tank should hold pressure and not leak down. May settle down 1-2 psi but then stabilize at that pressure. Check for leaks with soapy water. Repair and repeat until it holds pressure. Second, the foam under the tank is the wrong material. Foam rubber whether open cell or closed will trap water. But you do need padding of some sort. You need a rubber product that is fuel and oil resistant. Buna N or Nitrile rubber while great for fuel/oil won't resists ozone/oxidation. I think something like a neoprene rubber is probably the best choice as a balance of properties. For your tank repair, weld it if possible. Epoxy coating to protect it. Alternatively JB Weld and fiberglass if you have enough space. Don't worry about doing the whole tank. This is temporary anyway. Good luck!
@edtreffery968
3 жыл бұрын
Hey N&J, When I was in the Navy, our superstructure of the ship was made out of Aluminum we painted it with an Epoxy paint made for Aluminum and Marine use. It kept the salt for eating away at the metal. You might want to try painting your fuel tanks to stop the corrosion. Just a thought. Love you guys!
@SeanBlader
3 жыл бұрын
Rather than fiberglass the tank, just leave out the fiberglass and use some epoxy resin. The point of adding fiberglass to epoxy is to increase strength, but you're not in a structural need surrounding the tank, the aluminum is plenty structural itself, it just needs a better corrosion resistant coating. You could even skip the epoxy and go for something like a flex seal or other rubberized paint, or even at the very minimum, just use a paint designed for painting metal. As long as your painted surface isn't getting scratched away by the boat it should be solid, although if your JB Welds don't hold on the inside, then the fuel will quickly break down any paint it comes in contact with. You will want to check the tank to make sure it's well sealed before any covering goes on. Also the foam padding is likely to reduce vibration noise and wear from the tank and the fuel sloshing around, but any adhesive in there will quickly get broken down when in contact with a solvent like fuel. You'll want to clean the space really well and then you can just double stick tape the foam down again, or use some kind of salt water resistant adhesive.
@LindseySpiegelquackquack
3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what my husband and I were thinking. 👍
@dmpyron2
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed entirely. The glass is for body & strength. All you need is the binding. You need to mix the epoxy regardless, this just saved you the chaos of trying to get the glass coated and smooth, a learning experience or two.
@ddtwdmb2
3 жыл бұрын
I was going to suggest something like Red Guard. It's a rubberized paint used to seal from water getting behind tile walls or floors. You can get it at home depot and it works great.
@mtollmaster3747
3 жыл бұрын
I'll throw in my two cents here. I used to be a mechanical contractor. I worked on industrial cooling towers for 25 years. They rot like crazy from water and chemical treatment. The best epoxy coating I ever used was Belzona 5811 immersion grade epoxy. It is made in England but there are distributors all over the world. If you can find it, it works amazing. It won't be as thick and bulky as fiberglass and won't allow seepage from the edges like fiberglass either. Good luck. It's hard to believe it only took a year to cause you so much work! Love your vids.
@sstorholm
3 жыл бұрын
Belzona makes some amazing stuff, the company I work for uses some of their products to fix pitting inside hydroelectric turbines.
@gillianwv
3 жыл бұрын
I cannot tell you how delighted i am that this channel has embraced jokes about dinghys, big balls and spankings. It has brought joy to my catching up marathon!! Im restoring my grandmothers house, abandoned for 10 years. And i don’t need smell-o-vision to understand the cleaning and applaud your bravery at putting your hand in spider filled spaces. Thanks for the laughs!!👍🏻🥰
@Kwajdaddy1
3 жыл бұрын
As someone who has had a career in the aerospace composites world, I would suggest that given your location on the back side of the moon, that you cover your existing tanks with Teflon tape, make fiberglass "splash" molds of each half tanks, Teflon tape the insides of those molds and layup new tank skins of fiberglass, then fiberglass tape the halves together. The fiberglass tanks will not have the galvanic corrosion against the similar material of the hulls and should last forever as compared to aluminum, which will always be in reaction. Good luck getting out of this pickle! Love your vlogs!
@GodRock369
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Nikki, I love your musical ability to play the BUMGO DRUMS. LOL
@mrfr0st7
3 жыл бұрын
"It's a FUEL PUMP, I swear! Honestly!" ;-)
@granti9546
3 жыл бұрын
Suggestion: Stick with your plan to clean and seal the pin holes with the JB Weld as a first step. Use a fuel tank sealer to seal it from the inside (POR 15 Tank Sealer). Fiberglass cloth is probably unnecessary and only adds to the outer dimensions. Truck bed liner would be both waterproof and abrasion resistant without increasing the outer dimensions to much. It's unclear what resources are near you, but Amazon sells a 2-part, urethane truck bed liner, Raptor Liner. You can apply it with a brush if you don't have access to a schutz gun and air compressor and texture / appearance doesn't matter. Good Luck!
@glastronjohn1
3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking coal tar epoxy, but bed liner may be easier to find. Good call.
@likethemenace
3 жыл бұрын
@@glastronjohn1 Agreed on the use of POR 15! Glassing the tank adds physical layers like you... plus if not properly prepped you can trap moisture under the glass and have an even bigger mess.
@glastronjohn1
3 жыл бұрын
@@likethemenace Yep, clean the surface perfectly. Apply sealer. I wouldn't glass an alum tank. I glass wood and other composites using epoxy and biax. Seems the problem started with the "rubber" bits padding the tank. That's supposed to be neoprene rubber. I hope they understand that is pretty critical. Got to use the right stuff. They have a fun channel. It's got to be tough procuring the correct materials in such an obscure location.
@granti9546
3 жыл бұрын
@@glastronjohn1 I'm guessing that the fiberglassing advice from other sailors might be old advice that's been floating around for a long time. It's certainly something that you could do to get you by for a while if that was the only material available. but on its face feels like one of those things where you win the battle and lose the war. If you cream a tank like that and then coat it and a flexible, waterproof epoxy, I imagine it would last for several years like that.
@zoekornberg
3 жыл бұрын
I recommend throwing a handful of silica gel packets into cupboards and drawers to cut down on moisture. I have found it can go from musty to odorless in a matter of days! Now that the cats are off the boat, you don't need to worry about them eating the gel packets and getting sick. RIP Cleo
@txag007
3 жыл бұрын
I would second that and look at those packets that you can reuse by drying them out in the oven.
@chefdan87
3 жыл бұрын
In these environments i dont think the silica packets can keep up. Ive tried that on my boat before. Ive had better luck running a dehumidifier that drains overboard. Then use a ozone deodorizer machine for a day or so and all the funky smells are gone. Then you just have to keep up with cleaning. I think their main issue was being away from the boat so long it got away from them.
@richardfleming8241
3 жыл бұрын
Jason, there a product called fuel cell sealant, used to seal the internal seams in aircraft fuel cells ( wings ). The product is totally fuel resistant, and can be used externally on your fuel tank pin holes. I have used it on my fuel tank pin holes and has worked and held for more than nine years so far. A pint can would been all you need for both tanks. Just search aircraft fuel cell sealant, clean tank area apply and let dry. I also used wax paper to cover the sealant areas when reinstalling the tank for easy removal in the future.
@richardkrentz7553
3 жыл бұрын
Hi guys, Good job on the dingy and boat so far. To clean the tanks storage areas, I'd suggest a light spray on Dawn detergent and water and a long handle brush.. Spray the walls of the storage area. Remove the wash water with the pump. This process is used to dissolve the oils and make them easier to remove and will leave the walls white again.. I have an airplane and my fuel tanks are internally sealed with a 'Slosh' sealant treatment. Check with the local airport mechanic.
@P-J-W-777
3 жыл бұрын
Gone with the Wynns --Truck Bed Liner-- You should look into using the spray-on bed liner that you can buy at almost any automotive store. Just apply 2 coats to it, in order to make it a little thicker. The bed liner will be really tough and much easier to apply than fiberglass. It will also help keep the holes sealed up.
@eshootziscrs2868
3 жыл бұрын
Four years already. I remember shopping for boats, cats taking a walk in the woods from the RV. Half a world away now. Quite a journey.
@PaulBartomioli
3 жыл бұрын
FYI. Maple is naturally anti-bacterial. To remove whatever is on the boards, there are 2 methods. One is sanding with a fine-grit to remove the stains. That leads to dust and Nikki's issues. The second is to get what is known as a bench knife, dough scraper. About 4" in width, wooden or plastic handle. Scrape the board to remove the stains. Follow the grain and scrape the entire board. Labor intensive and slow, but no dust. I cooked for 40 years and will take a maple surface over any other for sanitation.
@mikeshanaberger7503
3 жыл бұрын
There is a liquid membrane you can coat the inside of the tanks. I of course don't know what you have locally. We steam cleaned the inside and then used alcohol to dry the water and etched the interior surface with acid. Block the ports. Dump the membrane in the last port plug it and then turn it every which way you can to spread it evenly on the inside. Let it cure then carefully open the ports. Simplified version. I hesitate to recommend a product as I don't know what you have access to. We did this on antique cars and motorcycles. Worked great!
@donk.5730
3 жыл бұрын
I suggest from experience- the tank is old, we know it's going to leak again, fiberglass over diesel is not a great combination for a newbie to do it - the best practical, long-term cost, piece of mind- is get a plastic tank set up for fuel. They do exist, your best contact is Kent who sold you the boat. There always comes a time when replacing may cost more, but you don't want a leak during a storm. Especially respect the clearance - like you mentioned. A smaller tank by 1'' smaller makes life so much easier. Size does not matter!! lol. Wish I was there helping you folks. Been there before, Cheers, DON...
@danielmelhorn7988
3 жыл бұрын
I joined Omaze. Love watching your adventure. I am to old to do this type of stuff now. But you will never forget the people you have meet. Remember Hebrews 13:2 "1 Continue in brotherly love. 2Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels without knowing it."
@krisg3984
3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I love this saying, thanks I needed to hear this today
@ride-it-outtimandtoni232
3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys another great video. When we pulled our tank we had to cut out the deck and didnt want to think about it again for 15 to 20 yrs. Ours was pitted like yours all along the bottom seams where it leaked. After cutting it in half to recycle it (they woudnt take it unless opened up) we found it was good that we had a new one built. Before installing the new one we coated it with Blue Seas Coal tar epoxy. Nasty stuff but it is what is also used to bury propane tanks. We then 5200 down neoprene supports along bottom in key locations and then also neoprened on top where we built brackets to keep it helf in tite without using any foam. The foam I believe is what destroyed original but it was 20 years old and had a good life. Hope this helps✌🏼🤞🍺
@RagtopDazed
3 жыл бұрын
18:20 🤣😂🤣😂 so great that you guys can keep your sense of humor ... that’ll always get you through hard times! Best of luck!
@donnakawana
3 жыл бұрын
I am homeless with a disabled 15 yr old son.. his love of the ocean is his thing an his spirit animal is Orcas. So I wanted to do the Onaze thing cuz we wouldn't be homeless. But dreams are dreams.. so I couldn't do omaze cuz it costs. But our dream really is to sail live off nature an sail... we became homeless due to a fire on February 28th then lock down so we spent what lil $ we had saved an a crap motel. Ya kno I never knew the difference between Hotel/Motel til now.... Anyway I adore you both you inspire me,you keep me motivated when I have none cuz you both never give up. You both draw closer an pull thru. So when u share your lives with the world u never realize how u may save someone... thanks for being my life ring. The home she shines you both inspire me so..... Sorry so long it . I kinda don't hold my feelings in much!! Life is far too short !! Donna❤ & LB
@waynemcphail7825
3 жыл бұрын
Be thankful that you were able to extract the two tanks without tanking part of the boat apart. Recommend getting two new tanks, slightly smaller to ease reinstallation. Best of luck. Wayne
@mrmoss149
3 жыл бұрын
Loved the " spank-o-vision", Nikki. 😂
@andrewruble7706
3 жыл бұрын
I am so impressed with you two! I am also sorry you came back to such a mess but your attitude and desire to move forward are so inspiring. Thanks for being just regular people who are willing to learn how to do and repair things out of your comfort zone. Willing to pull up your sleeves and get dirty to get the job done. Well done and thanks for sharing your adventures.
@comstock_life
3 жыл бұрын
I like the bed liner paint idea too. Also, thanks for using the “Nahoa” theme music in your video....I hope Ben and Ashley get back to their boat soon as well. They’ll be in the “same boat”🤪
@Greg042869
3 жыл бұрын
Bed Liner test: kzitem.info/news/bejne/xm6Iv2GQaYGTmo4
@paulb4527
3 жыл бұрын
Jason, to test the tanks for leaks put a little air pressure in the tank and use soapy water on the outside to see where the leaks are, be careful not to overpressure the tank and deform it, we use .5 to 1.5 psi for steel tanks.
@Vitoandolini13
3 жыл бұрын
Your doing a good job cleaning and fixing. I'm sure Jason will be cleaning the electronic connections on everything electrical. Great team work there.
@mauricegagnon1374
3 жыл бұрын
Been watching for a while. I'm a boat repair expert in Montreal, Canada. Use epoxy primer as a sealer; acid wash, zinc chromate and epoxy primer ; as many coats as you may want.
@Wearyman
3 жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity (no pun intended) would a rubberized coating like Flex Seal, Plastidip or Deck Grip Paint be as effective in the short term? I'd imagine it would be quite a bit easier than epoxy and glass, although clearly not as long lasting. Since they are planning on replacing with plastic anyway, a difficult but permanent solution might not be in order? Just trying to think outside the box and attempt to make it easier on them being where they are trying to do the work.
@DannyKoKo
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe Maurice's solution would be best as a permanent fix, therefore no new tanks necessary...?
@tartret5115
3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to source those items in this pandemic season
@brittnilynn0
3 жыл бұрын
@@Wearyman I was wondering the same, maybe a coat of plastidip would work if they could get their hands on some?
@Wearyman
3 жыл бұрын
@@brittnilynn0 Plastidip or Flex Seal might be hard. Boat deck grip paint (The rubberized kind, not the gritty kind) might be easier given that many boat yards and boat shops carry it already.
@audreyd859
3 жыл бұрын
Good morning! I love the attitude of taking a break. I think we could all use that to remember life is good even when it's hard! Thank you!
@Ragesauce
3 жыл бұрын
I'm finding the boat restorations to be more entertaining than I thought! I love this stuff, keep restoring and make it pristine!!
@rfdinesen4027
3 жыл бұрын
Great job! The boat is really starting to look good even if it doesn't feel like it. I can't imagine how overwhelming it's been. I installed four of those caframo fans on my boat and they're great. Have had them for 12 years. Call the company if you are having problems. I have found them to be truly great to deal with (may be easier said than done given where you are.) I can't believe Leopard didn't have plans for the other tank. AGGHHH bummer on the other tank leaking. Very grateful for the "no smellivision". You're doing an amazing job.
@OurJourneyInMyles
3 жыл бұрын
Watched the entire video of you cleaning,............I swear you guys could make a video about lawn mowing, and I would still love it! Wish Leopard & your guy in Florida at the boat place would "step up" and get the one tank air shipped to you ASAP. Come on Leopard! You guys have done so many nice things for others you hardly know, they could decide it's your turn for some help! You would be asking for their SPEED to get it to you pronto, not a freebie. The other odd-ball tank could be fabricated from a drawing that Jason could make, and just make it a generous 1/2" smaller so IT FITS FOR SURE. Maybe even simplify the shape. The capacity you lose you will never miss. Ask Leopard to jump on that project! It's always best to fix it right the first time. Good luck you guys,.....
@derekdegrofft5223
3 жыл бұрын
Put bladders inside of your tanks. They do it to custom motorcycles all the time.
@harold6510
3 жыл бұрын
Jason, just read this suggestion about BLADDERS! Aircraft have used this design before WWII! Really pray that you take this suggestion as I believe that it affords you and other sailors multiple advantages since aviators and sailors are never stationary! BTW, just joined your support on PAETREON! I spent 10 years as a part of a DOCTORS WITHOUT BORDERS mission to Honduras (1992-2002). I'm now a retired dentist from Houston and practiced in the downtown area. The only reason I actually had to retire prematurely was due to a congenital spinal defect. So glad I found you, Nikki, and your entire very enviable family Jason! What you were able to accomplish with that gentleman, Mark, from South Africa, was nothing less than MIRACULOUS! Hope to be able to speak or at least text at sometime?! Love you guys!....Harold
@MrMeriloto
3 жыл бұрын
Nikki/Jason, allow me some comments: -please do sand the surface to the bare minimum (this process erodes/removes material from the surface, hence weakens the metal). I'd advice before a thorough/deep clean with soap/detergent to remove dirt/oil, and then use a weak acid e.g. vinegar in water solution to final clean. -track all the existing holes by means of pressurizing the tanks with compressed air and spray a soapy solution on the exterior, this way you will create bubbles to help you detect pittings. Wipe and mark with sharpie. -the best solution would be to drill/perforate the pits and use rivets, but I don't think it's feasible as there's no access port available. The idea of using SteelStick is acceptable but I fear it will protrude to the inside of the tank (maybe use a stick/rod as stopper/holder from the level sensor port?). Furthermore, don't know the level of attack, maybe undercutting or subsurface corrosion, so it could be that the wire brush doesn't leave the surface free of corrosion. I'd certainly advice to run the clean step with weak acid on the inside (you can duct tape the holes to hold the solution and let it do the job) -I'd not to recomment to fiber glass the tank (waste of time and money). Easier/faster/cheaper to use a polymer/epoxy coating, and certainly use cathodic protection such as sacrificial zinc anodes. Having the resources nearby, anodising would've been an excellent alternative. www.wikihow.com/Clean-Corroded-Aluminum pls read this before sanding!! www.337skymaster.com/documents/ch06-07corrosionremoval.pdf I can't resist to say something you probably guess: those tanks are a disgrace, the finish is appalling, welds are gross, no lifting lugs, no legs, no service port. BUT, don't you both even think about changing them, repair is simple and for legs you can build a simple HH wood frame to lift them say 2" (or whatever max height allowance you have in place @19:29). Should you consider to change them, fiber glass would my option (you could build them with guides inserted to align in place, and with slightly more volume), added advantage: no corrosion. Don't throw away the diesel you collected, use coffee-filter paper and/or a thick cotton cloth to remove the solids, twice better. I wonder how do you know if/when you have water contaminating your tank, as there's no visual display and the drain valve seems unnaccesible at the bottom? Regards (from 12h behind)
@bigdog8891
3 жыл бұрын
After your fix the the tanks figure out a way to pressure test them
@wesleymonske8103
2 жыл бұрын
Paint bottoms of tanks with bottom paint boat tank. Dont fiber glass that adds weight. Paint and use plastic rolling pins cut in half or cutting boards to stop the movement and rubbing. Suspend the tank in a net or harness. Pak it in with whatever works . Stop the sloshing . Drink cold beer. Think on it
@jacobk4412
3 жыл бұрын
Bedliner would work like a dream! I have had the anchor hatch on my small center console boat sprayed and after about 5 years, it has held up VERY well. Looks just the same as the day I picked it up from the spray shop. Once the tank is fully patched and repaired, get a light media blast on it to clean the entire thing up really well. Then have the entire thing sprayed with bedliner. You will add about 1/8" thickness to the walls of the tank, so keep that in mind for the clearance to re-install the tank.
@823Labs
3 жыл бұрын
Jason is quite the gentleman, Nikki finds a spider's nest he offers to clean them up.
@cromwellw91
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but then she say - no It’s OK. I can do it.
@hkm_865
3 жыл бұрын
That’s his job
@sinoperture
3 жыл бұрын
Where as I pretend to grab them and chase my wife about for the lols.....
@jaycroyle8761
3 жыл бұрын
Jason, if it was me patching an aluminum tank and expecting the patch to last only a year or two, I would do a good job J B Welding it (That stuff works well) Make sure you clean the surface really well, and then not worry about fiberglassing it.
@angiebshouse
3 жыл бұрын
OMG!! I laughed so hard when Jason was cleaning the tank holding area! I used to have a chest freezer and had to do exactly what he did to clean it. It’s a balancing act for sure. 🤣
@nickviner1225
3 жыл бұрын
Now you know first hand why they are called "chest freezers"!
@sv.scintilla
3 жыл бұрын
Take the tanks on the ferry to Nuku A'Lofa and have an aluminum doubler welded on the bottom of your tank. Don't use foam strips as they absorb water. Use high density polyethylene if you can get it as beds. DO NOT touch your aluminum tank with a mild steel wire wheel. Micro particles of steel will mix with the aluminum matrix and in salt water cause a ton of corrosion pit spots. You will have a hard time getting fiberglass to stick to the metal tank even using epoxy resin unless you wrap it all the way up to the top of the tank. And you will have to make sure water does not get between fiberglass and tank. Epoxy is a vapor barrier and a better choice than polyester. But, you might have to import it from NZ. Big Mama might help you in Nuku A'Lofa if she is still there. Not sure if Greg still runs the restaurant but he is a Kiwi and might be able to get someone to help there if you need it.
@dashers11
3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys! You are the most awesome people! You have helped so many people, Mark and the pets just to name a few. Watching your channel just makes us feel good to know there are such good people on the planet. We never miss your videos! We were checking out your swag but also wondered if there were GWTW stickers? We want to proudly display one! Cant wait till you are back out there! Love P&D
@gonewiththewynns
3 жыл бұрын
No stickers yet. 😩
@liammotherway9397
3 жыл бұрын
If they were my tanks I would find someone to cut the bottoms off and weld in new ones, they would be good for another 15 years. Your ole mate from the boat yard will know someone who could do it for you
@richardforman2562
3 жыл бұрын
This is the right solution. A patch is good for short term only.
@KrissyMeow
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah and they could even cut them to give a better fit.
@TravelswithYoly
3 жыл бұрын
When you're right, you're right.
@MrBlurbman
3 жыл бұрын
Good idea, much better than the planned patch job. Patches are only really for emergencies .
@yowser8780
3 жыл бұрын
Yup. New bottom. Only right solution. Find something other than the foam pads to put it in with. Lucky you were able to get to the tanks and get them out.
@melissal.755
3 жыл бұрын
Good Morning! When I was RV shopping I leaned HEAVILY into your videos for info. Thank you for then and now , keep exploring, you all are like modern day Jacques Cousteau. From land to water... even air!
@oger73
3 жыл бұрын
place some charcoal where the tank was while have it out. it will help absorb the diesel smell. works great when you spill gas in the shed or car.
@stephensteele3553
3 жыл бұрын
I would throw some clay kitty litter in first if you can find it. Helps sop up the remaining fuel. Then go charcoal to get up the aromatic compound. Make sure it's activated though. Regular charcoal works, activated works better.
@stephaniebeaton3939
3 жыл бұрын
@@stephensteele3553 I think the Wynns couldn't find kitty litter anywhere in the South Pacific when they had cats.
@darrellsheldon1394
3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about the Rhino Liner truck bed spray to seal and protect the exterior of the tanks. They come in paint on formulas as well as a spray. You'd only be adding a couple mils and the stuff lasts long and is weatherproof. Just a thought.
@akadroid4628
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Guys, Had great success with using JB weld type tank repair AND then completely coating diesel tanks with Dupont CORLAR. This is a 2 part coating specifically designed for coating tanks. My repair is going on 5 years now and still sealed. Several layers of this should still allow installation in your tight space. CORLAR is amazing. Not sure what your best source would be where you are. Auto re finisher supplies may have there.
@laurierodriguez1432
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for my weekly Wynn adventure! You guys are a true inspiration! Good luck with the tanks, unfortunately I have zero advice, but I know you guys will figure it out, you always do...and with smiles!!! That's the best part🤗🤗🤗
@AliasJimWirth
3 жыл бұрын
Your work ethic, and how you take "crap" in stride, remains inspiring. Last time I commented on watching you work, cleaning your boat, I finished the video and got up and got some needed stuff done of my own. Thank you. Your videos have value beyond what you know.
@PinCushionQueen
3 жыл бұрын
Too true!
@AverytheCubanAmerican
3 жыл бұрын
Those are some legendary tour guides! What a view at the top
@rh-cv3nr
3 жыл бұрын
My 2c :-). Buy some THS brazing rod, use a mapp gas torch and braze over the weak areas. If the hole is to big, put and Al screw in it and braze over the screw and tank. Next invest in a couple sacrificial zinc rods and use cathodic protection for the two tank so you never have to worry about this again. You can use you tube for tutorials, I learned by practicing on a couple aluminum bear cans. I also really liked the bladder idea.
@digarcia1890
3 жыл бұрын
Wow! 1 year did all that! Who woulda thunk? Every time you're feeling overwhelmed...remember you're finally home!
@BB_Chaptsick
3 жыл бұрын
Nikki, you rock the “Rosie the Riveter” look! The fuel tanks definitely appear to be a nightmare. Seems to me encapsulating the fuel take would be the best option. Anyways, thank you for my weekly trip half way across the world. You two be safe. Off to the Tip Jar I go.
@daviddavis7855
3 жыл бұрын
Welding is the only proper solution. Epoxy and aluminum just do not adhere permanently. Hopefully, there is someone who can mig or tig nearby!. Might be a Minion shuttle ride though!
@nilzlima3027
3 жыл бұрын
as far as fixing the tanks there is a process that is used to line tanks in the aircraft industry it is essentialy a room temperature polymerization that leaves a thin coating of a plastic on the inside of the tanks. this stuff is faa certified so it will work for a boat as well. i dont remember what it is called at the moment sorry. that is your best bet with those tanks, line them inside and out with plastic, done forever.
@johnburgess5534
3 жыл бұрын
One solution is to have flexible (rubber) tanks made as for aircraft fuel tanks. Another is to cut the bottom of the tank off, and weld new bottom on. Have fun. John
@pmwilliams123
3 жыл бұрын
I don't have time to check all the comments, so apologies if this is a repeat suggestion. Some airplanes are built with bladders for the fuel. If you can get someone to make a similar bladder that can be placed inside your current tanks, you will not need to worry about minor corrosion holes in the aluminum, as the aluminum then is just for protection of the bladder. As mentioned elsewhere, find a boat specialist to design a sacrificial anode system based on the metal you already have (basically, the sacrificial metal must have a higher 'corrosion tendency' in salt water. Zinc may protect steel, but i'm not sure if it protects aluminum). The bladder material will be designed for your fuel, and can be removed and checked without removing the aluminum again. The bladders may have repair patch kits that would help reduce effort/cost in future repairs. As with all soft materials, they will be a consumable, but I don't know the expected lifespan. And I don't know if they are approved for seagoing vessels.
@tylerb1734
3 жыл бұрын
You should invest in a drill pump. They are like $4-$10. And super useful.
@chaoyoong9987
3 жыл бұрын
it is amazing how - Jason, you managed to always be Mr Sunshine....having the year from Hell and still you always manage a smile and just carry on. You must drank a lot of tea in your past life...so patient and taking situations in strides....kudos to you...
@grahamcifuentes4451
3 жыл бұрын
He's the one that looks at THOSE feet all day, every day!! Tough job, but someone's gotta do it!
@peterko2803
3 жыл бұрын
Watching your progress and good work from China, where we say: "Jia You!" (literally: Give Gas!)...Go for it! Keep it up! Step on it!...Anyhow, Cheering you on...!
@tsaviation1
3 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Dublin - my 11 year old son and I think the answer is Palmerston Atoll. Love your videos and best of luck getting Curiosity into ship shape. All the best. Thomas & Ben.
@bolivershagnasty2014
3 жыл бұрын
Cut a slit in a thick rubber hose, then slip the rubber hose over the fiberglass rails to keep your fuel tank from making contact with the sides. I would also recommend a thick rubber mat on the bottom rather than foam. Might work if you can make it fit.
@user-dg7sy8cz3b
3 жыл бұрын
Jason Sampling Sailing Nahoa’s intro music are we? Lol Great to see you both so happy! Now back to scrubbing! Lol
@Boediprasetya
3 жыл бұрын
Sailing Nahoa viewer in here.........Good...I'm a fan Sailing Nahoa
@Sebastianontour
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Noticed that too. ;-)
@guyd3504
3 жыл бұрын
Really admire your can do attitude. I suppose when it is your home you can never let up with maintenance this home just sails though.. 😎🤘
@nohand322
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jason, I would get the Herculiner Bed-Liner kit and coat the whole outside of the fuel tank. It's the same stuff they line Truck beds with. You'll need to put a primer on the tanks first. I would call back to the boat manufacture or dealer and ask them about it.
@ganolemoine
3 жыл бұрын
Hello Wynns. We're new to your channel - just about 2 weeks in. Just seeing the fuel tank dilemma, and the "how far up to fiberglass" question. Jason said, "any other ideas?" ---- Rhinohide ! Don't know whether you've already finished the project, and don't know whether you can get the spray on epoxy material that is Rhinohide, but --- that seems like a great way to "waterproof" the exterior of the fuel tanks. I'm tempted to suggest spray on vehicle undercarriage coating - a rattle can spray on mix of rubber and petroleum wax, but that's somewhat soft, and would probably eventually wear away because of the rocking and rubbing. Hope that's helpful ! You two are saints for sharing such good, helpful, and thorough information. Oh - and extra kudos for being a sailing couple that doesn't "pimp out" the woman sailor with "thirst-trap" visuals. We'll keep watching - we're thinking your adventure may be our retirement plan / semi-retirement plan after the daughter finishes college (5 years out). All the best and safe travels.
@jofus01
3 жыл бұрын
Aviation fuel tank sealant sealer. Commercial aircraft seal the inside of the wings and use the wing for a fuel cell. you can use it to seal the outside of your fuel tank and it comes as a two part kit, with different drying times so use the B2 kit it gives you two hours of work life and dries to a rubbery consistency. Tape off the area you want to seal and spread it on. found at most aviation supply. I'm a certified airplane mechanic and used it to repair all kinds of stuff. If you get some screen material you can cover larger holes by using the screen as a base over the hole.
@BrendanExplores
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about your boat troubles guys ❤️ 🛥️ I've looked into the boat life myself and everyone tells me it's a never ending money dump... You certainly are brave for jumping in at the deep end. Literally! Anyway, wishing you and everyone reading this comment well 👍
@joer8854
3 жыл бұрын
So are houses. If you live in your boat there's very little difference and it can be a much better investment.
@tharney8003
3 жыл бұрын
@@joer8854, a boat is not an investment, it is a lifestyle. While your house usually appreciates in value and you gain equity as you pay off your loan, a boat does nothing but depreciate. There are very few boats that even hold their value, let alone appreciate. You buy a boat for the lifestyle you can have owning a house that moves, not to make money on it.
@BrendanExplores
3 жыл бұрын
@@joer8854 don't I know it! 😂 Just discovered a leak in my house 😭
@BrendanExplores
3 жыл бұрын
@@tharney8003 that's very true, the free life 👍
@edgewood99
3 жыл бұрын
BOAT - Break Out Another Thousand.
@playb4work447
3 жыл бұрын
Palmerston Island is the place. I like how you used "Sailing Nahoa's" theme song.
@Kazeykc
3 жыл бұрын
I had noticed that too ha 😂
@Sebastianontour
3 жыл бұрын
Right? Total mindfuck. ^^
@ukspankedyank
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe borrow the theme from SV Delos. :-)
@deborahbrown2116
3 жыл бұрын
Watching Sailing Nahoa video next! 😆⛵️
@enderdragoon
3 жыл бұрын
Try to find some "bladders" which are rubber inserts that you can install into the tank (think inflating a large balloon inside a box, but the balloon is super heavy duty rubber that's the shape of the boxs inner dimensions). That basically makes the aluminum tank only structural to protect the fuel bladder from punctures but would be impervious to corrosion. Aluminum is easy to repair however and might just be that you need to remove the tanks once every 5-10 years and have a welding and fabrication shop just repair the holes with welding. There might be some good corrosion inhibiting and hydrophobic coatings you can put on the tank. Maybe some tiny stubs, standoffs or ribs could be welded to the bottom of the tank to keep the sealed sections of the tank from contacting anything that would introduce corrosion. The tanks are overall in great shape though and can be repaired, utilized or reconfigured.
@joer8854
3 жыл бұрын
The one caveat I would say is to make sure the bladder is an artificial rubber, not real rubber. Real rubber is not a positive.
@williamcraigsartwellejr.9288
3 жыл бұрын
Or use your brain and get a tire tube from a tractor think out-of-the-box we will be out in the Box for the rest of our lives do you people understand look around you supply lines are cut off make it yourself or do without money soon will be worthless Jason better be prepared to protect his property
@hapnewsom9217
3 жыл бұрын
another consideration is repair the tank and then spray coat the exterior of the tank with a protective coating other than fiberglass.
@enderdragoon
3 жыл бұрын
@ certainly possible. Normally they get welded in place and you would see the discoloration on the outside of the tank where the welds were made inside. I tried to look closely at the tanks in the video, I don't think they do have baffles but hard to say with all the steaks on them. Fab shop could remove them and put the tanks back together with bladders.
@GaryMCurran
3 жыл бұрын
I really like the concept of rubber bladders, they've been used in airplane wings since WWII and before. What I don't think is a good idea is trying to get them into these tanks. With all the vents and hoses on top, but the exit on the bottom, how would you connect everything? I DO think, and suggested that Jason consider rubber bladders for his NEXT set of tanks, and to have the tanks specifically designed to make installation and removal of the bladders easy.
@garybaris139
3 жыл бұрын
As soon as you get to somewhere where you can have tanks made, consider having tanks made out of stainless. For now, you get aluminum rods that work like solder and can be used to repair the tanks using a butane torch.
@thesledshop1917
3 жыл бұрын
on your tanks, you could prep sand with 80 grit orbital, clean and then spray an epoxy primer sealer. when that is dry lightly sand with 180 grit orbital. clean and spray box liner and that will protect your tanks for a very long time
@stephenchapman8344
3 жыл бұрын
Really impressed with your work rate. Great to see the progress. The end result will be well worth it! 😀👍
@waspoza
3 жыл бұрын
I heard Jason wrote a book: Swedish-made fuel pump and me. (This sort of thing is my bag, baby).
@jayslager1200
3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing 🤣
@50tmack
3 жыл бұрын
Hello from FL! Love you two on Sunday mornings 😊.
@Retribution3610
3 жыл бұрын
Printer was delivered to Palmerston Island. Love the community bonds you both seem to create wherever you travel. Got my 1000 entries for the van!!!
@primetimefishing2436
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Many boat guys in Miami paint aluminum gas tanks with coal-tar-epoxy. This creates a great barrier to corrosion.
@jwtfpv8957
3 жыл бұрын
Have you considered bladder fuel tanks?
@tomf3969
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah...nitrile
@henryostman5740
3 жыл бұрын
I have bought in the past some low temp welding rods that work with aluminum, melt in the 700+ degree range (F) and use a propane torch to heat, they are supposed to be strong but I haven't tested it. Wrapping things in fiberglass can often mean that things are going on that you can't see. I wouldn't use the rubber strips on the bottom but rather some kind of hard plastic that won't react with diesel. Stainless steel is the go to material.
@John-Nada
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they're called aluminum brazing rods and only require a soldering gas bottle and torch, but you have to use high quality rods made by Hobart, Bernzomatic, or Blue Demon
@henryostman5740
3 жыл бұрын
@@John-Nada thanx, I didn't remember where I bought them, it was on line.
@grayhawkflighttraining4044
3 жыл бұрын
Hook an air compressor up to your tank and spray the whole thing with dish soap and water. Find a bubble, still have a leak.
@marceld6061
3 жыл бұрын
** to be clear--- Grayhawk Flight Training means: "spray the OUTSIDE" of the tank with soap and water.
@grayhawkflighttraining4044
3 жыл бұрын
@@marceld6061 correct, sorry I should have been more specific. Otherwise you will be blowing bubbles out of your exhaust for a few weeks 😂
@awm21awm21
3 жыл бұрын
Not too much pressure though, or it will bulge out
@peterengel7885
3 жыл бұрын
I worked on pressuring tanks. DO NOT use a air compressor. You will damage the tank. Use the hand pump that you use to inflate the dingy. One does not have enough control with a air compressor. You do not want to make a worse problem.
@dalewatkins9889
3 жыл бұрын
@@awm21awm21 - 40 psi or so should work!
@aimeyblessedmayberry3157
3 жыл бұрын
Good news! You will get new ones! Or Jason will restore to like new! Niki please make him a special dinner with a yummy dessert! He deserves it! I am praying for you guys from Bow, Washington! Many Blessings, Aimey M
@jamescorriveau6121
3 жыл бұрын
If you can't weld the tanks then JB WELD is the next best thing as the FIRST STEP! Then you should put a liner system in the tank. This will seal the seams & pinholes from the inside & prevent corrosion there. Por 15 & Red Kote both make a fuel tank sealer-liner that will work. For the outside a few coats of a good epoxy paint will prevent future corrosion and not add any appreciable size to the tank. I would replace the foam isolation strips with rubber or better silicon. This will hold up better and not absorb fluids. Good luck.
@conniewilson7318
3 жыл бұрын
Amazing the amount of time and money this is costing from leaving a boat sit, very similar if an RV sits without use but I think the boat is more spendy, and the time investment to get her sparkling again! Education in motion! Not for the faint of heart! Your determination is inspiring 💕💕
@Gunnie1961
3 жыл бұрын
Have you thought of using a spray on bed liner to protect your fuel tanks, such as Herculiner from Lowes or other available spray on application? For spars, may I suggest using some polyolefins, Polystyrene or Polycarbonate strips. You could drill some thru holes to let water flow between each section for drainage.
@steveyork9314
3 жыл бұрын
I second this. Rhino-liner, herculiner, Line-X. I've Line-X'd all of my pick-up trucks and it is bullet proof.
@thenarrator1984
3 жыл бұрын
@@steveyork9314 no salt water factor though. but i do think its a good idea
@busog97641
3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant idea, both of them!!!
@ThatOldBiddy
3 жыл бұрын
Better title for this video: Pump and Spank Solutions for Boat Problems
@gonewiththewynns
3 жыл бұрын
😆😆😂😂
@MaShcode
3 жыл бұрын
Or a Paddles and Pumps cruising vlog.
@deraneaton2576
3 жыл бұрын
@@gonewiththewynns Somebody had to fill in for Chief Engineer Singa's extended shore leave that he can't ride Jason's starboard.
@scotverdin9401
3 жыл бұрын
ha omg exactly xoxo
@ajsonstegard5729
3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@BoatingJourney
3 жыл бұрын
Ugh! Such a bummer! While you're not looking forward to the project, we're looking forward to learning from you guys and seeing project completed. Thanks for sharing and stay safe!
@thysvanwyk853
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason close the outlets and put one airhose from a compressor to the tank low presure and take a soap water mixture spray it on the areas where you think it is leaking the air and soap create bubbles kwik way to spot a leak even if you done check again the repaired spots before you install the tanks
@robertlalor8090
3 жыл бұрын
"Thank you ma'am, may I have another?" should have been your response to your tank-bay spanking, Jason
@NJ-Cathie
3 жыл бұрын
Dang Jason! I cannot believe all that fuel was down there.
@richardfelix6317
3 жыл бұрын
You guys being from Texas, you might be familiar with with a hand operated pump transfer pump. They are also referred to as a hurty- gurty. They are great for transferring liquids from one container to another. I use to use them to transfer diesel between tanks and other liquids between containers. Keep sailing.
@dio3744
3 жыл бұрын
The spice rack is filled, dishes are done, spiders are evicted, and you have tons of great advice in the comments to fix up those fuel tanks. You should both be proud of all the work you have done! Bravo and love from Austin, TX.
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