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@evbase-official
Жыл бұрын
Can you help us make a collection of RIVIAN accessories Video?
@Str8ABH
Жыл бұрын
I bought a Model 3 a while back when I was planning to shortly move into a home with garage charging, but experienced apartment life without charging at all besides supercharging or charging at work for a while. I had many Electrify America chargers near me and purchased the CCS combo adapter for my Tesla to make life easier. It was not easier in the slightest. Max charge speed I experienced was 46kw and routinely would have to call their customer support, which most of the time would be someone hanging out at their house with their baby crying in the background, and get them to restart the terminal I was planning to charge from, for it just to fail again. Only positive out of EA is that I got to know quite a few other EV owners around the area since we were all forced to stand in front of the stalls and ask each other if the other persons terminals were working. Never met a person that had anything positive to say about their EA experience.
@zs450
Жыл бұрын
I had a similar experience with a Polestar rental in LA a month ago. The car itself was fine, no problems, but charging was a nightmare. If it were my first experience with an EV I would not have an EV today.
@markfitzpatrick6692
Жыл бұрын
Do you know how to watch videos on KZitem? Plenty of videos on how to use every brand of chargers no excuse for that . Why rent a ev when you don’t know anything. And use the excuse I am not getting a ev because you didn’t do your homework.
@vivianle8941
Жыл бұрын
I was in LA a couple of weeks ago & the car rental guy wanted to give me the polestar & I politely decline for a gas car. I’m on vacation not trying to get into the nightmare of charging the car.
@bigoldjim4696
Жыл бұрын
Every one of these non-Tesla EV road trip videos is a commercial for Tesla, just by watching how much the charging experience sucks. It'll be interesting to see how that changes when the Superchargers open up. There are some nice EVs from other companies but unless you charge totally at home it makes no sense to buy them until they can Supercharge.
@markfitzpatrick6692
Жыл бұрын
Next time he can rent a gas car or Tesla at the airport.
@hugegoogle
Жыл бұрын
That's the reason why Ford and other EV makers are jumping into the Tesla's boat in terms of charging standard.
@brucec954
Жыл бұрын
Yes, Tesla really threw Ford and others a lifeline.
@roguea987
Жыл бұрын
Did you see the post from Jim Farley on his experience taking the Lightning in a road trip.
@copperdomination
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the Tesla standard won't make crappy hardware work any better.
@waynelewis9110
Жыл бұрын
@@copperdominationSort of. It definitely puts the crappy CPOs on notice. If the likes of Electrify America don’t improve, they will be put out of business as more EV owners will flock to Tesla Superchargers and other emerging, reliable CPOs.
@anthonyarcher7268
Жыл бұрын
Why should American companies have ever relied on VW?
@roguea987
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate you putting this out there. I got in a small argument over this very thing just a few days ago. I had no idea there were this many issues and the cost... holy crap. I went in apologized to the guy, because I was just incredulous about his perspective. You just proved his argument. I have a Fiat 500e. That can't even DC fast charge; but, its a whole different use case. I only charge at home or on a J1772 L2 ChargePoint charger at work for free. I'm always banging the EV drum. I really thought the state of EV charging was in a better place than this. Talk about a disappointment.
@rodolfoyoshii8345
Жыл бұрын
Haha! I really loved the video at around minute 16:20 when Chris and wife start to get really pissed off. Thx very much for your honest opinion and feedback. Last weekend I saw in Canada a whole family with long faces waiting outside their R1S while the dad was trying to charge in a Petro Canada station. The next day I stopped at that station to buy snacks, there was a technician repairing the charging station. A day later when it was time for me to drive home. I drove to a Tesla Supercharger 250kW, and in less than 10 minutes I went from about 25% to 60% SOC (paid about $13 CAD), got home with a safe 20% SOC. A breeze.
@DouglasJMark
Жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏. Hope things do get better. The cost of the electricity is literally shocking too. Lotsa love to all ❤❤❤
@BrysonWooden
Жыл бұрын
Man we're spoiled with the Tesla charging ecosystem.
@jamessmith7205
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the disclaimer at the end. I needed that. 😂
@degnarius
Жыл бұрын
Think about the people that just won't buy a Tesla because they don't like the design language, Elon, or whatever. They still want an EV so they buy a non-Tesla and this is the experience they have whenever they charge away from home. Is it any wonder they go back to gas or believe that EV's aren't ready and PHEV's are the answer? I'm not at all convinced the legacy OEM's don't want it this way so that they can continue selling their profitable ICE vehicles. Rivian, OTOH, can't switch to NACS fast enough.
@STRIDwastaken
Жыл бұрын
Really cool viewpoint. Crazy how non Tesla owners still have this struggle
@KlausEvenEnevoldsen
Жыл бұрын
In Europe we use CCS even in Teslas, I have a non-Tesla and have not tried anything like what you are experiencing in the 3 years I have had my little car and I charge away from home a lot.
@gregbailey45
Жыл бұрын
'Murica, 'home of the brave, land of the free to disappoint'.
@paulrybarczyk5013
Жыл бұрын
My nickname for Kyle is happy-Kyle. I’ve only seen one video where Kyle was cussing mad, and that was his first non-Tesla charging video. 🤣
@markfitzpatrick6692
Жыл бұрын
You don’t watch enough of his videos then
@Jakoubek23
Жыл бұрын
It really depends on the experience, and you started with a bad one. That really stinks. We own an R1S and an R1T after having a Tesla Model 3 and a Model Y for a few years. Most recently, we drove from NC to Toronto and back. We also took another drive from NC to the Florida Keys. We experienced no issues; however, the experience was not on par with Tesla. Hopefully, with access to Tesla Superchargers and further investment, things will continue improving.
@Jakoubek23
Жыл бұрын
@mikenielsen3971 I tried recently, and unfortunately, it's a no-go for me on the lottery side of things. In all honesty, though, I do use ABRP before every trip to plan out the drive and avoid chargers that are problematic on Plug Share. That's what I miss about Tesla; I could trust the system enough to input my destination and just enjoy the drive. Traveling with a non-Tesla is definitely more involved, but somehow, I kind of enjoy it. #earlyAdopter That being said. My recommendation for ease of use EV at the moment is a Tesla, given the integration between the vehicle and charging network. There are many things that I like more on our Rivians vehicle wise compared to our 3/Y.
@philhyde983
Жыл бұрын
100% agree with this. There are thousands of people who never have any issue, but like so many things in life it just takes that one time to ruin it.
@domg7359
Жыл бұрын
@@philhyde983 It's not isolated issues. The few times I used EA it was terrible. I've never had any issue with Tesla. Outliers are the ones who haven't had any issues, and all of those haven't charged many times or only in a certain working location.
@thefootballfan007
Жыл бұрын
Most electric vehicle manufacturers use a J1772 charging plug. Rivian also accepts this common “J-plug” connector compatible with many charging networks. There are also a few other options for charging on the road.Jun 24, 2022
@philhyde983
Жыл бұрын
@@domg7359 It's gotten worse, but the issues are still outliers on the whole.
@spcOten
Жыл бұрын
From Michigan love your videos!
@SamuelHauptmannvanDam
Жыл бұрын
Charging infrastructure and safety is my main reasons for getting a tesla. Even if I don't see myself driving across continent, you would still find yourself using it once in a while.
@kennykolourinc1250
Жыл бұрын
what a shame there are way too many videos like yours on You Tube where people have terrible charging experiences I just do not understand why these charging companies are in business? I am glad I bought my Model Y
@UnnDunn
Жыл бұрын
Blind spot warning isn’t necessarily about “there’s a car next to you in your blind spot” and more about “you REALLY shouldn’t change lanes right now”. What do I mean by that? Well if there is a car in your blind spot, but it is slower than you (so it’s “falling” backwards away from you) the blind spot warning won’t trigger because it’s ok for you to make the lane change. Or if your blind spot is empty, but there’s a car coming up super fast where it will be in your blind spot in a few seconds, that WILL trigger the blind spot warning to let you know it isn’t safe to make the lane change. Dunno if Tesla’s blind spot warning works the same way, but that’s how it works in most cars.
@UniversalPioneer
Жыл бұрын
The wife opinion is exactly why I invest through all the noise and hate towards Tesla. EV by default and bar in my mind is a Telsa, and if no other company even meets that default line and wouldn't even consider. The Rivian is a good built from the ground up EV with software experience almost at Telsa level but is throttled by charging network.
@battousaihimura
Жыл бұрын
Its the experience you get from a company that never really wanted to build it in the first place 😅 #VW So glad Rivian is switching over to NACS
@cameron1100
Жыл бұрын
All I had to see was the thumbnail to know it failed the wife test 😂
@sierraQuester
Жыл бұрын
Typical experience with non-Tesla chargers. I have used EA and others many times with my Tesla for various reasons and about half the time there is a problem (credit card won't work, station refuses to charge, touch screen misaligned, phone app not working, too hot, too cold, moon is the wrong phase...) EA, Blink, EVGO, Francis Energy--they ALL have issues! I ran into new owners of a Rivian at an EA station and they were going through the same frustrations as you were. I felt so sorry for them. Mine station miraculously worked. 20 minutes later, and several phone calls, they still were unable to charge. I gave them my station out of pity.
@TRYtoHELPyou
Жыл бұрын
It infuriates me, as a spark EV (CCS) and Tesla model S owner. The charging providers almost completely are being productivity negligent given the effect makes people want to not go EV, and end up returning their EVs 😢
@andyfeimsternfei8408
Жыл бұрын
EVs would never exist without Elon. Opening the Tesla Supercharger network to competitors may not be the best business decision for Tesla, but it's best for the transition to electric transportation. How many companies or CEOs put what is right ahead of profit?
@davidb4509
Жыл бұрын
Dang. This is so sad to hear. Thanks for struggling through that trip to give us all a real-life update. 😳 😕
@UnnDunn
Жыл бұрын
The EVgo charger probably ran into the 1hr session limit that they put on a lot of their chargers. It’s a 50kW unit, so it most likely needs 70-90 minutes to fully charge a big battery like the Rivian has, so it wouldn’t surprise me if it ran into the 1hr limit.
@DirtyTesla
Жыл бұрын
They could have warned me of that along the way lol
@Nphen
Жыл бұрын
@@DirtyTesla They had a what, $3 session fee and then they limit the session to an hour? On top of charging more than 3x most people's home power cost.For those premium prices you'd figure they could get their chargers working better.
@schlotdoglaser
Жыл бұрын
We had a Volvo XC40 Recharge and wer HATED IT. We sold it back to the dealer to our R1T and we love it. Yes, the problem is the infastructure but that will change when Tesla opens up the system for non-tesla vehicles. In California I have 2 RAN's I have access too and have worked flawlessly.
@rmkep
Жыл бұрын
Opening up the Supercharger network was not an entirely altruistic move by Tesla. They need BEV"s to replace ICE vehicles for their own expansion plans to be possible. They are smart enough to know they can't meet that demand alone. Videos like this (and there are many others) demonstrate that no matter how nice, cheap, fast etc a BEV might be, if you can't get it charged quickly and efficiently on the road, it is severely limited (see Nissan Leaf). Our family has been driving Tesla's exclusively for the last 2 years and we LOVE these cars. The supercharger experience makes that love unconditional. Kyle Conners loves many different BEV's, he knows that currently the only true great ownership experience is with Tesla. Thanks to NAS and Tesla's opening of the Supercharger Network, this is changing and that's a good thing for all of us ...
@GarretL757
Жыл бұрын
This might be my favorite video of yours
@DirtyTesla
Жыл бұрын
Ha why's that
@GarretL757
Жыл бұрын
To see you and the wife’s trials and tribulations crossing over into how the other half lives. It was almost like watching a first time EV owners experience. I tried to convince some family to get the MY but they went with the ID4, overall car is okay but this has been their exact experience. Has left them with a love hate relationship. I really liked Stephanie’s comment of respecting and/ or appreciating what we have as Tesla owners now.
@cruiser97eric1
Жыл бұрын
Starting in 2024 Rivians will be able to use Tesla chargers via an adapter. Also Rivian is building its own charger network that so far works very reliably.
@valeriehartwick6917
Жыл бұрын
Very eye-opening.
@Goodhello369
Жыл бұрын
Lol he gave you the Rivian knowing it lol
@aguzman222
Жыл бұрын
Well at least he will get thousands of views but just about every video is the same thing - avoid AE at all costs
@m3Tesla
Жыл бұрын
What did anyone expect? VW was forced to build out EA as punishment from the EPA. Did you think it was going to be good???
@Jethr001
Жыл бұрын
And… They bought it back for cheap. Politicians sold us out again!
@markfitzpatrick6692
Жыл бұрын
Bs kyle got ea to put in new units In the winter. I would have downloaded the Ea app and had my card on the app. I use apple wallet with my card in apple wallet. Non Tesla people are clueless. It is not that hard. I have had my car 8 years and know how to use all chargers. The problem is they don’t plan ahead and learn how to use the charger before driving someone’s truck. Sandy Munro was clueless on chargepoint. Kyle and ea have video on how to use the chargers. I am really surprised Chris isn’t more on top of things.
@markfitzpatrick6692
Жыл бұрын
Blame It on rivian for no network before release the trucks not ea
@geirmyrvagnes8718
Жыл бұрын
@@markfitzpatrick6692 Nah. Failing EA chargers I would blame on EA, and the competition wasn't much better. No amount of being on top of things cures a 40 kW charge rate in a truck with a big battery. I have been stuck at 70 kW in my Elonfanboymobile, and I can feel my beard growing long and grey at that rate until I realize I have juice to get to the next station. Two digit charge rates are only fine when you are stopping for dinner, but then the charging session had better not stop randomly half way. That's how I feel about that. 🙂
@okhera1
Жыл бұрын
I luv your videos bro. Informative.
@R56Cooper
Жыл бұрын
Yes, returned my non-tesla EV because of subpar experience with charging.
@andrewbasile4080
Жыл бұрын
The build-out of the Tesla Supercharger network has been incredible. For instance, at Quartzsite, AZ between LA and Phoenix, there are now 120 (!) Supercharger stalls, including some with access for vehicles towing large trailers. Major props to Tesla.
@Dannyar10
Жыл бұрын
After we decided to get a motorhome and selll our travel trailer, the first thing we did was sell our R1T. We loved the truck but hated the charging experience. Since we no longer needed a tow vehicle the choice was easy to switch back to a Model Y.
@Jethr001
Жыл бұрын
was seriously considering a rivian from positive reviews from Sandy Monroe to the fact that it’s just a practical and capable off-road vehicle… Something the cyber truck doesn’t appear to be. Now I am considering canceling my reservation .Love your experience video BUT the audio is horrible on the driving portions…cant understand.
@thomasreese2816
Жыл бұрын
What part of the Cybertruck indicates that it won't be off-road capable? Nothing released or leaked alludes to anything missing
@weho_brian
Жыл бұрын
the fact that you have to whip out your credit card/phone is annoying as heck
@MagivaIT
Жыл бұрын
lets not forget the side note of *if you live in the usa. In europe, not an issue, we can even use tesla chargers so its not an issue. ive no idea why you have to wait for cars to come with a tesla adapter when in europe, tesla chargers are already ccs so it fits any existing car (that has ccs) america is so behind in electrification support (nc tesla)
@BillHohensee
Жыл бұрын
Wow! Totally Wow! And this from the two of you - highly trusted, experienced, unbiased and informed. Blow it all up (metaphorically), and start again. Start from the Tesla model, and build forward.
@DirtyTesla
Жыл бұрын
I was quite shocked when Kyle said "sucks doesn't it" lol
@GET2222
Жыл бұрын
TESLA single-handedly saved RIVIAN by opening the NACS to them. I will never ever buy a RIVIAN until they get NACS in their cars. F the adapters.
@SpottedSharks
Жыл бұрын
I hope you gave these stations the appropriate ratings on PlugShare and Rate My Charge!
@SpeakerKevin
Жыл бұрын
I can read your mind, "I want my Tesla back!"
@sanyr80
Жыл бұрын
27:30 that's not the first EVgo station I've seen like that. They seem to be really bad for cable management. I tried an EVgo station in an underground parking garage in downtown Seattle (under like a Whole Foods or something) one time and the space was so cramped I literally could not finagle all the cabling into a position to where I could park my car and plug in.
@retiredwizard
Жыл бұрын
I owned a Chevy Bolt which I traded in for a Tesla Model 3. I mostly charge at home, but occasionally road trip and when I was driving the Bolt the range anxiety was serious, my wife would start to panic anytime we were below 50-60%. The one saving grace was we didn't know any better and just dealt with it. The Tesla charging network is a complete game changer. Range anxiety is literally no longer an issue. I wouldn't be concerned about running the battery on a road trip down to 10% (although my wife would probably start to get anxious below 30%) but we never even get close to that because there are so many charging options. We end up charging every time we stop to stretch our legs or stop for lunch and without even trying keep the car charged during trips. I tell everyone that asks about buying an EV that we have test driven some EVs that were great on the test drive, but unless you are only going to drive the car around town, the only EV choice to make is which Tesla to buy. Once the Tesla charging network is available to other EVs (I think starting as early as 2024) those options will actually be compelling. As far as the Rivan goes, I think your observation that it feels just like driving in a GM truck would be considered a huge endorsement by a lot of folks considering that vehicle.
@cybrtrkguy
Жыл бұрын
It's no wonder Ford led the switch to NACS. But I'm surprised it took them so long
@markfitzpatrick6692
Жыл бұрын
Blame it on rivian for putting a truck out without the network built out. Tesla had 11 years
@health101DOTorg
Жыл бұрын
The other advantage to Tesla owners besides the Superchargers is that Tesla owners will pay for Supercharging at a rate lower than the other automakers who will use the Superchargers in the future. And rightly so. Elon said that Supercharging will not be a profit center (for Tesla owners); they will pay cost plus 10%, and that 10% will cover the leasing costs Tesla has for the land the chargers are on, and some for the little maintenance that's needed. But the "other" EV owners can and should pay a rate comparable to the other public charging companies.
@KurtSandersSr
Жыл бұрын
My same Tesla MY experience with using non Tesla EV chargers. Very frustrating to waste so much time trouble shooting payment issues, low/none charging issues, blocked chargers by other users who stay longer then needed, misleading actual charging speeds, broken chargers/cables not fixed, etc.. Now I am glad I paid for a Tesla MY 2021, as the Tesla Supercharing infrastructure is so much a part of my positive experience when traveling away from Home.
@michaelfink64
Жыл бұрын
Sorry Chris, gave it a go, bit couldn't hear you with my family chatting in the room. Highly recommend a different microphone next time.
@johnreese3762
Жыл бұрын
Sorry! Thanks for the video, it probably helped a lot of people! We just bought a new Tesla and are very happy campers!!
@tommckinney1489
Жыл бұрын
I purchased a Chevy Bolt in 2019. The EA network was bad then, and now, 4 years later, it's still bad. SMH.
@SeattleFSD
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. You both are great together! 🙏🏾
@markfitzpatrick6692
Жыл бұрын
I guess you like a guy complaining in a video? I don’t call that a good video. His video talking to Cory at Munro. That was a good video. His Tesla beta driving videos are good. He would do better staying in his lane instead of making a video about something he doesn’t know anything about.
@jamesengland7461
Жыл бұрын
The audio on this video is so bad that most people didn't hear you explain the audio issues at the BEGINNING of the video 😂
@zmonteca
Жыл бұрын
The sole reason we won't buy any other EV except a Tesla...there's a lot of great EV cars out there, but the infrastructure to support them is just garbage.
@kencotton4645
Жыл бұрын
I wish more companies would license Tesla's self driving software. It is so much better than anyone else's product as your experience demonstrated.
@gregbailey45
Жыл бұрын
They will.
@Alex-je6od
Жыл бұрын
oof. Yeah. Par for the course. I have a Chargepoint nearby that does a "meh" 62kW... but as of a month or two ago it's de-rating to a *painful* 32kW on the R1T. Pretty much, get below 55kW on the Rivian and the charging experience gets painful quick.
@peten6445
3 ай бұрын
That so why I have a Tesla. The supercharging network is great.
@D0li0
Жыл бұрын
So... How much would you have said to have a NACS adapter and use the superchargers? Imagine it's your truck... ide pay a few thousand $$$ for a personal magic dock for my Lightning....
@relaxingsilentfilms-LosAngeles
Жыл бұрын
we got our r1s 3 weeks ago. so far only level 2 charging for city travel. we love the SUV but there are some slight issues we plan to address with the service center.
@McMooo587
Жыл бұрын
Tesla is better for 99% of people until Rivian joins the Tesla charging network. We went with the R1S instead of model x and love the R1S. It’s special and was far cheaper with grandfathered pricing and much roomier inside for the 3 kids (4th on the way) and has more cargo room. Plus the styling is superior in my opinion. As much as I love it, we used our ICE on the last 2 road trips.
@aidanf7720
Жыл бұрын
Chis, you should make a separate channel of a podcast youtube channel??
@SkyMogul
Жыл бұрын
And in probably less than 9 months Rivian, Ford, GM, Mercedes and others will have adapters and access to the Supercharger network. I think the charging network is Tesla's main advantage - once others can use it there will be a real competitive landscape.
@Gary_Walker90
Жыл бұрын
It’s actually funny that you went to the charger that Kyle is always complaining about. You should’ve been there in winter when the chargers wouldn’t activate. Lol. The only positive on rivian is unlike other OEMs they do have the rivian adventure network in some places which appear to be pretty reliable. Unfortunately they’re just few and far between.
@johnnydirect7815
Жыл бұрын
Yep. Time for legislation and fines levied against Electrify America to ensure reliability.
@billsrelectric
Жыл бұрын
Legally it is too late but the government should use emit domain and acquire the whole EA network and auction it off. A new owner has to be pretty. (…this is fantasy of course…)
@markfitzpatrick6692
Жыл бұрын
@@billsrelectric such a ignorant comment.
@jimb50plus
Жыл бұрын
I just took a trip using EA (Ford F150 Lightning) - no problems - just plugin and charge every time. Sorry you had a bad experience. Public EV charging is hit or miss but hopefully it will get better over time - it has to or the transition to EVs will never happen.
@minnguyen4872
Жыл бұрын
do more road trips
@gregbailey45
Жыл бұрын
It wil happen, but only because of Tesla!
@johnpoldo8817
Жыл бұрын
My wife doesn’t have as much patience as yours. This is awful.
@SpottedSharks
Жыл бұрын
It's almost as if EVGo, EA, et al want EVs to fail. Tesla aside, automakers believed they had no real stake in the charging infrastructure. They are learning the extent of their error. Several automakers are teaming up to deploy a new large DCFC network to rival Tesla's (or so they claim). If they do it right and keep them running properly, then the charging landscape in 5 years could be vastly improved.
@peterricker4177
Жыл бұрын
If I were a Rivian stockholder I would question their decision to not use the Tesla Supercharger network from the outset. Not a good business decision.
@KennySeven
Жыл бұрын
great video
@chucktx5957
Жыл бұрын
Nice job, guys! Thanks!!! Think of the PR damage these non-Tesla charging stations will do to non-Tesla sales in 3 years!
@TECHPROPH
Жыл бұрын
I was at a Hyundai dealership recently looking at the new ionic 6 and the experience was very interesting. the tech and comfort are great and the backseat room is more than the model 3. But when we got to the charging I bailed out. They're pushing for you to buy it with 3 years free of EA charging but when I did some research on that it was literally the worst part of the car. There is no comparison between EA and Tesla when it comes to charging. I told the dealer that I would get an Ioniq 6 if they make the switch to NACS. If not, then I was good. If I ever experienced what you guys did, I would take the car back almost immediately after.
@health101DOTorg
Жыл бұрын
I like Tesla's lane change warning system because I will often start signalling AHEAD of moving, and I don't want a chime dinging at this point. Dinging if I start to change lanes when I shouldn't is perfect.
@DirtyTesla
Жыл бұрын
That's a good point and the Rivian definitely did ding even when I didn't need it
@health101DOTorg
Жыл бұрын
@@DirtyTesla And nice thumbnail for this video. When I first saw it, I thought, "Uh oh, Stephanie's not happy", and I guessed it had something to do with public charging. Bingo!
@snaky72
Жыл бұрын
That is very sad to hear. I am recently back from my road trip (Switzerland, England). It was about 1500 miles. I've had the same experience. Only here are they called Alegro and Ionity. No problems with Tesla SuperCharger and Fastnet. It's a pity that something like this happens, because there are nice EV's next to Tesla. Think it's very cool that you test other cars too. Thanks! Greetings from switzerland.
@HeyItsJay24
Жыл бұрын
I need to move to a place where supercharging is cheaper. I've yet to pay less than .42/kwh at a supercharger in New England 😭😭😭
@somishows2020
Жыл бұрын
Girl, you have it 100% correct. They can claim up to 350 Kwh charging just so they can look they are they "beating Tesla" but the real life experience is that they are not only worse than Tesla on charging speed, but they are virtually useless when it comes to reliability for any non-Tesla EV. Owner be warned --- do not road trip in an EV unless you are in a Tesla.
@jeffgrimsley6209
10 ай бұрын
I hear you guys, I love my Ioniq6 and have driven a Tesla 3 before buying this. The Ioniq6 overall was much better all the way around. I did zero research on the charging because the dealer lied about the Electrify America chargers. The first time I charged it, the experience was a nightmare. Should have returned it but I loved the car so much I just bought a good high grade 50 amp level 2 charger. Patiently waiting for the Tesla Chargers to be available soon so I can make long road trips. Bottom line, EA chargers are trash
@brandenflasch
Жыл бұрын
The state of non-Tesla charging infrastructure has never been worse in the US, unfortunately. It was certainly a factor in selling my Rivian and getting a Model Y.
@davidkendall2272
Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more with your wife's opinion regarding Tesla's unique experience, which is awesome. Currently on 4th Tesla vehicle starting with 2012 MS and completed 8000mile trip in 2014 on earlier version of Supercharging network. It was awesome then but is absolutely spectacular now. Why would anyone not want a Tesla?
@Neotype33
Жыл бұрын
Why are you charging to 90%? Max should be 80% on a road trip. That last 20% takes 1-1.5hrs. What does Tesla charge per KW? Thought I saw it was *about* 50 cents/kwh. I did a 10hr drive in Rivian on EA network, 27 bucks, 60 min charging over 2 stops one way (I did get a free charge at a gas station so $54 if I had to pay for both). My 22 year old V8 truck only got 10/20mpg and would have been at least $140 one way. Granted, I did have to spend about an extra 30 min om my road trip, but I have dogs so, good to take a break anyway. I broke it up into a meal stop and a caffeine/restroom break.
@Neotype33
Жыл бұрын
I will also note EA does have a lot of bad chargers, I did use the plug-share app as a pre-view of those stops and omitted those bad chargers on my trip. I do realize most people do not have the knowledge to do that. But you have to realize that this is new tech. Just like the early internet, it sucked then and there were issues, but it cleared up over time. And all those ol;d people who could not figure out how computers worked got help from their grandkids to help them with this technology.
@dmunro9076
Жыл бұрын
You left a charger that was giving you 82kw and went to one that stated it was 50kw max...you don't get to complain about that! There's lots of EVs around such as the Bolt that max out at 50kw and many of these chargers have been around for a long time. Anyways, I've charged my M3 (with the CCS1 adapter) lots of times at 50kw or even 22kw chargers quite happily because we were having a meal/shopping, or there were no Tesla SCs nearby. I will never complain if the charger gives me it's rated output and a 22kw or 50kw CCS1 charging station is far preferable than none at all, which is often the case in rural areas, even for a Tesla.
@DirtyTesla
Жыл бұрын
The reason we left the 80kW is because we hadn't eaten in a while and were going to get food. We didn't even plan to charge again, but saw the 50kW was downtown where we already were, so we went for it when we had free time. Also, think of this from a non-EV nerd perspective... anyone new or newish to EVs would be so confused and put off by the charger saying "hey only 2 more hours to go!" when they thought it was a "hypercharger"
@dscarty
Жыл бұрын
We bought a 2015 Mazda 3 because of the orange car is there warning lights in the side mirrors & a great backup alert. It has no other noteworthy tech.
@EVunedited
Жыл бұрын
First time i hear someone say Evgo instead of EV-go
@kyril3125
Жыл бұрын
That steering wheel really looks happy!
@Philipp-l5l
Жыл бұрын
Wasn't EA the punishment for VW? You know, outside the Tesla SC the experience can be the same here in Germany. It is getting better with stations like EnBW and such, but ugh, I will not leave the SC network for now...
@MonsterSound.Bradley
Жыл бұрын
IRA Government grants for EV charging stations for Tesla are under $300K / stall. All non-Tesla stations are getting over $600K / stall. Weird AF.
@ecostud
Жыл бұрын
Cute blue dress!
@JElectrified
Жыл бұрын
The big thing with other EV's like Rivian, although it's not their fault EVGo and Electrify American or any other chargers don't work properly and have problems, it is partly their problem because of how it makes people see their vehicles. Tesla would have the same issues, but they recognized this and built their own charging network so their customers don't have to rely on third-parties. Rivian or Ford or any of the other companies making EV's could also invest in first-party charging networks or partnering with someone like EA to help improve their networks. But they all choose not to and rely on third-parties to make their vehicles functional to customers without home charging. Even companies announcing them moving to NACS is still them relying on a third-party network for their customers. At least that network is Tesla who have their own vehicles so they will keep the network functional, but it's still not ideal for their customers.
@jman1234533
Жыл бұрын
This is why plug in hybrids is the way to go. If the charging stations arent sufficient, just use gas
@dweiss1
Жыл бұрын
This is why I'm trying to keep my Chevy Volt on the road for a couple more years. Waiting for the charging infrastructure to improve. And for the Chevy Equinox EV to come out. Also, I looked at Tesla recently, and insurance is much higher than in any other option I chose.
@Jay-zr2cm
Жыл бұрын
Your telling me i get out my truck and lock it to the sound of a bird chirping?????? No
@magallon643
8 ай бұрын
The good thing is that pretty soon, you'll be able to charge at Tesla Charging networks.
@ChrisLeiter
Жыл бұрын
It's almost like the industry has recognized how awful the charging experience is and have decided to adopt the NACS for ... some reason.
@williamelkington5430
Жыл бұрын
My understanding is that Rivians will be able to charge at Tesla superchargers in the second quarter of next year.
@theagentsmith
Жыл бұрын
I believe many of the charging issues are due to buggy charging station software, the complexity of the payment system and not exact implementation of the CCS protocol. There are charging stations brands which work better, like Alpitronic or Kempower. Tesla controls the entire stack, had better design decisions like streamlined payment system, and doesn't make a big profit out of superchargers. EA and the other need to pay the investment back hence more expensive to charge.
@jpmackin
Жыл бұрын
Do you have a Nema 14-50 at home? Can’t you charge that stupid thing on the 1450?
@suunraze
Жыл бұрын
The liquid cooling was probably broken on that dispenser.
@suunraze
Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah you found that out later
@BboySnake71
Жыл бұрын
I think the Rivian is a beautiful truck. People buy Rivian instead of Tesla, because Tesla doesn't have a truck (yet). In my opinion, its the best truck out. Plus it does have its own Rivian network building out which doesn't have the issues of Electrify America, as well as, getting access to Tesla supercharger in a year and a half.
@mcrkon
Жыл бұрын
Remember most anti-EV critics never actually drove an EV.
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