Its going to be a very Great Session with the Great Keonard Elst
@rajdasgupta2940
2 жыл бұрын
Instead of Human Genetics, I would request researchers to start researching on Bos-Indicus or the Indian cow. That will become evidential that whether civilization or linguistic developed in India and then spread throughout the world or the opposite. Vedas provides us with many subjects to stand it's ground but it seems we are trapped by Western procedures and their way of analysing things which is almost a stalemate situation. Leave human immigration - look for other subjects - cows, woods steel, sree Vidya, educational system, traditional Sanskrit, last ice age, drying up Saraswati and its cause, geological land structure 25K years ago, science, astronomy, coins, trade routes and trade items, Assariyan empire and Asuras, birth of Zoroastrianism, Sukracharya, Mithraism, Magus or 3 magi during the birth of christ etc. There are endless topics to prove that Bharat is the cradle of all humanity. Trying to date all the Vedas through a single lense is stupidity. Try to date Rig Veda which was composed at a different era than the Atharva Veda. Rig Veda was before Iron age but Atharva veda was composed during the age of metals.
@poornimawagh72
2 жыл бұрын
This has already been done by Nilesh Oak. Please go watch his videos. Nilesh Oak and Dr. Rupa Bhati have put a nail in the coffin of the Aryan Invasion nonsense.
@rajdasgupta2940
2 жыл бұрын
@@poornimawagh72 disproving Aryan invasion migration theory is good but that is DEFENSIVE action taken by we Indians. Now it is time to prove that we Indians contributed to the world in terms of everything apart from violence - and that I call being OFFENSIVE. Time for us to prove that we taught them (west) how to become humans because before that they were barbarians and caused witch hunting and burnt science at stakes. What I am done with is - the west defaming us and we trying to retain our grace. Turn the table and go offensive. Time to ask the west - who gave you the taste of sugar before Alexander the inferior. Who taught you mathematics, human anatomy, poetry, grammer, technology, electricity, astronomy and navigation, calender and everything else. When Jesus was performing miracle by curing leprosy - ayurveda had already mastered the subject but we fools do not dare to bring those topics on stages.
@alphazero5653
2 жыл бұрын
@@poornimawagh72 Thankyou for the information.
@dipakbose2677
2 жыл бұрын
When you go to another country for whatever the reason would you take your cows with you or you go with your family members????
@singhdeepak10
2 жыл бұрын
@@dipakbose2677 Now it's not necessary because there are hotels and dhabas everywhere.
@logical.Logical
2 жыл бұрын
Hello Sanjay ji, 🙏🙏 Wanted to share my observation with you... I feel Bharat seems to be falling into another trap from Saudi Arabia....which has disapproved Hadees etc but kept Quran and said it needs to be correctly interpreted... Now, there are many so called ex muslims (likes of Taher Manumitter etc) who criticize Islam, molanas but, consider/preach Quran as philosophical book researched by Saudi wherein, they are trying to create a narrative that muslims wrongly interpreted Quran for 1400 years and wants to shrug off barbaric Islamic history......they seems to be student/follower of Mohammad Shaikh...
@alankritsrivastava99
2 жыл бұрын
Let them fight each other for the time being but be aware that the only soln. Of all this is ghar wapsi and we should work on it as fast as possible
@durgaashtekar1112
2 жыл бұрын
as long as they denounce own barbaric ways ...but many are still in denial
@logical.Logical
2 жыл бұрын
@@durgaashtekar1112 Dost, Saudi is creating a new narrative to deceive...Saudi is trying to create its relevance and relevance of its Quibla, mecca etc for tourism purpose and majority of brainwashed muslims who accept quaran as godly thing will move to this new version of quaran...so basically they will still be slave of Saudi Arabia and it's not good for India...
@TheB657
2 жыл бұрын
@@alankritsrivastava99 That is the truth. Well pointed out 👍
@thelustprophet
2 жыл бұрын
@Logical please, do watch Sachwala's criticism on quran
@saratsaratchandran3085
2 жыл бұрын
Going over the denial, some in the West suffer, logic would say that Bharat had been the womb and the mother of most humanity other than the Africans. If Forty three thousand years ago the aboriginals left for Australia, a proven history, one will have no difficulty in accepting that there was a population of homo-sapiens already thriving in the balmy climate of Bharat!
@bablubaban008
2 жыл бұрын
Bharat has been the sperm and father of whole humanity.
@AJAYSINGH-ns1vv
Жыл бұрын
True.
@abhishekayushya1901
2 жыл бұрын
While debunking the AIT, the JD & Konrald also proved Out of India Theory i.e. OIT beautifully.👏 Great Work💖
@sakogekchyan7366
4 ай бұрын
But are there any geneticists or archaeologists or linguists outside of India who are seriously looking into this as well? If this is true, I feel like at least some people would be looking at it.
@Manoj-bi3rd
2 жыл бұрын
I love to watch Mr. Elst each time. He seems me logical without any arrogance. Thanks JD for bringing i enjoyed it
@ashraykumarmishra
2 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@akshattewari
Жыл бұрын
Amazing session! I'm sure the OIT will eventually emerge as the unquestionable victor in a few years' time! Jai Hind! Vande Mataram! Har Har Mahadev!
@srikanthtupurani6316
Жыл бұрын
Dna of all indians is same. Some handful of people in the northwest india carry a minute non south asian ancestry around 5 to 15 percent. There are so many biased studies conducted by some people. The problem with this topic is it can be used by some people to do politics. There are good number of reason to believe in oit. The problem is people want want somethings to be true and are biased. Stephen openheimer book has given a good amount of evidence for out of India theory.
@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg
Жыл бұрын
@@srikanthtupurani6316 No, the dna of indians are vastly different !
@PSVVinodKumar
2 жыл бұрын
My question is what was the necessity for the western and communist formations to inflict this shortsighted theory on India? And also I answer myself as a layman, that there are two reasons 1. To justify their invasions through middle ages and colonial era and justify their loot. 2. To behave in a big brotherly character in modern times. My conclusion: Both the reasons are futile. N.B. Also I think inferiority complex too takes a center stage.
@bharatputra108
2 жыл бұрын
Civilization with inferiority complex will become easy target for conversion activities.
@agnivirraj8011
2 жыл бұрын
Vinod u r still a sleeping fool
@bling332
2 жыл бұрын
@North Korea Is Best Korea r u dreaming or what?
@PSVVinodKumar
Жыл бұрын
@Sachin Mehan all the reasons are a result of inferiority complex that is related to anciency. They are unable to digest that they are not the the most ancient civilizations 😇😇😇
@SaiyyadInnayaYassir
2 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🇮🇳
@DiatomAlgae
2 жыл бұрын
The issue is where and when did Sanskrit evolve and where and when was the Rig Veda composed and who developed Sanskrit and compose Rig Veda. All the evidence points to the following : Sanskrit was developed and Rig Veda was composed in settlements area around Rakhigarhi in Haryana. This happened around 3,000 BCE, in the early Harappan period. The people who developed Sanskrit and composed Rig Veda were the same people who developed the IVC / Saraswathi Civilization. Sanskrit language and Rig Veda are as complex as the material culture of IVC / Harappan Civilization. So it is easy to understand that both were developed by the same people. If the Rig Veda was composed AFTER the collapse of the IVC around 1,500 BCE then traces of the IVC would have been found in the Vedas, there is no such trace. Such as the script / symbols. On the other hand the Vedic culture is evident in the IVC, the complexity of the urban culture, town planning, water management, trade, etc, are all similar to the complexity of the language, philosophy, etc, in the Vedas. So it is easy to understand that both were by the same group of people. There is no sign of kings, armies, wars, etc, in the archeological evidence in the IVC. The Vedas too do not mention much about violence and wars, only a few battles are mentioned. Harappa, Mohenjadaro, etc, do not have any sign of kings and in the Vedas too there is no glorification of kings, Bharat, Sudas, etc, are mentioned in a normal manner, without any glorification.
@paulthomas281
2 жыл бұрын
@Bhaskar M V I am almost convinced that the root of Indo-European languages stems from India. This has to be separated from possible large-scale migrations into India, say between 2000-1500 BCE. This is what historians and authors are not doing. Can you please clarify what you mean by Vedic culture evident in the IVC. We cannot tell anything about Vedic architecture, urban life from the Vedic texts: they were a nomadic people or a pastoral people or at least a non-urban people. However I am with you on the proto-Vedic culture of India (within India) predating the IVC. I just don't have enough evidence to marshal.
@DiatomAlgae
2 жыл бұрын
@@paulthomas281 There is no such thing as Indo-European language, there is only Sanskrit and Sanskrit language group. People who migrating out of India from about 3,000 BCE and those who traded with India, took the Sanskrit language with them, upto Europe. IVC has evidence of fire alters, all animals mentioned in Vedas, etc. More important is the fact that the intellectual level, discipline, etc, evident in IVC and in the Vedas are similar. The population of Harappan Civilization / IVC was about 5 million spread over 1 million sq kms. There was no large-scale migration into India at any time in history. There were many small-scale migrations, both in and out, throughout history. Try to imagine how many had to migrate between 2,000 - 1,500 BCE to be able to start a completely new civilization, new language, new culture, etc. Is there any evidence of any such migration? NO. If IVC had collapsed due to drying up of the River Saraswathi and reduced flow in River Sindhu, could the migrants have settled in the same area? NO. Rig Veda refers to River Saraswathi 71 times and describes it as a mighty river. This river dried up by 1,900 BCE. So Rig Veda must have been composed much before this. To say that the people who developed Sanskrit and composed the Vedas were “a nomadic people or a pastoral people” is silly. Please study Sanskrit and the Vedas and understand the complexity of even the first Mantra of the first Suktam in the oldest Mandala of the Rig Veda [ VI.1.1 ]. [06-001] HYMN I. Agni. 1. THOU, first inventor of this prayer, O Agni, Worker of Marvels, hast become our Herald. Thou, Bull, hast made us strength which none may conquer, strength that shall overcome all other prowess. www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rigveda/rv06001.htm This was probably composed around 3,500 BCE. It could not have been composed by a nomadic or pastoral people. The authors must have been well settled farming society with huge food surplus, that enabled a few people in the community to just spend time on developing the language, education system, religion, philosophy, etc. That is why I think Vedas were composed BEFORE the IVC developed, 3,500 to 2,500 BCE, since Vedic culture was agrarian and IVC is an urban culture, mature Harappan period is 2,600 to 1,900 BCE . The agriculture surplus must have increased further, after the Vedas were composed, and this enabled the development of the urban culture. My email is bhaskarmv.64@gmail.com , please contact for further discussion.
@cosmicallyspeaking871
2 жыл бұрын
@@DiatomAlgae~ Beautifully explained! 💗
@darkprince2490
2 жыл бұрын
@@paulthomas281 There was no large scale migration into INDIA at 2000 to 1500 bce. There was a relative loss of genetic diversity due to drought. It happened not only in INDIA but across the world.
@paulthomas281
2 жыл бұрын
@@DiatomAlgae Dear Sir, thank you so very much for taking the time to write me this meaty response. I will continue my learning. I am sincerely devoted to the study of Vedic India. I have been studying Sanskrit grammar for the last 6 years. It is one of the great joys of my life. Jai Bharatam. Vande Mataram.
@trishul9117
2 жыл бұрын
Thank You Dr. Koenraad ELST JI...🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
@dibakarworld
2 жыл бұрын
Jai Shree Ram ❤️🙏🏻
@NativeVsColonial
2 жыл бұрын
The 'Arya' is a Sanskrit term, and 'Arya' stands for 'Nobel' or 'Nobility'' which is clearly not a race, also Gautama Buddha have said something about 'Four Arya Satya' or 'Four Noble Truths', so it is pretty clear. The Aryan Invasion, migration, tourism theory is totally made-up conspiracy by the Britishers, during the British Imperialism, and as per Archaeological and Historical findings, like Sinauli Excavations, Saraswati River existence dating, Roma Gypsy's having Indian origin, etc completely debunks any kind of "Aryan" invasion/migration myth. The main motive was to morally justify European Invasion and establish the white race as only capable of intelligence. Conclusion: After the Ice age, the ice melted from India, Africa and all other equatorial regions much before Europe and polar regions, and because India had the best fertile land and great natural resources like rivers, etc. the human race multiplied in India much more rapidly and migrated across Europe, than Americas. So never fall into these Aryan Dravidian conspiracy to divide. The so-called "Aryan invasion theory" is actually their motive is to divide us and justify and normalize their European/Christian, Arab/Islamic invasion/enslavement of native Indians.
@gurubhai3139
2 жыл бұрын
So many times he used the term "Hindu Nationalist" ... What a convenient way to discredit any person proposing theory supporting ancient indian civilization just call them "Hindu Nationalist".
@SithStudy
Жыл бұрын
That’s because 95% of them believe literally everything came out of India regardless if it’s ice cream or the Aryans
@jakhannew
8 ай бұрын
Dogmatism is a big problem. Out of India, Aryan invasion, out of Africa etc are all scholarly attempts to explain origins of civilization. The problem arises when one gets too attached to any one theory ignoring widespread evidence.
@parasnathyadav3869
2 жыл бұрын
JAI shree RAM SANJAY dixit ji
@chilarai1
2 жыл бұрын
There should be a discussion on how archaeoastronomical evidence of antiquity as explained by Nilesh Oak impacts on these theories. More than anything else, it demolishes all theories except OIT because first, it is a science and not just another theory and second the antiquity itself would render all variations of AIT/AMT as silly and desperate exercises.
@gagadonim3354
Жыл бұрын
Astronomal evidence is a pseudo science
@sumandasgupta6179
2 жыл бұрын
By far the best video made on refuting the AIT and corroborating the OIT ... super super session ! Dr Elst and Sanjay ji
@rey1657
2 жыл бұрын
-32:32 Became a hindu nationalist? Got religion when older? As if Hinduism is an organized religion like the others. Say the scientist became rational and factual, finally. Jai Bhaaratham
@mythiliashok5670
2 жыл бұрын
Extremely interesting ! Thank you 🙏🏽
@sklux6147
2 жыл бұрын
Aarya Vartha, Bharat or the greater India(= entire Indian subcontinent as one) is refered to as the 'Punya Bhumi', in our scriptures, for more reasons than one. There obviously are far too many coincidences for India to be what it has been. - Geography: Peninsula nestled between oceans & Himalayas and predominantly tropical region. - Monson is another wonder, which originates from far away in the south east of Indian Ocean. Travels all the way up to Andaman and reaches the southern tip of the peninsula. Dramatically makes an U turn just in time, to cut short the northern tropical hot summer in the middle, just as the heat starts getting unbearable! - Travels accross the subcontinent and remains active for 4 months only to make another dramatic U turn which prolongs the season by 2 more months in the form of northeast monsoon. - Perhaps, these factors in combination with few other coincidencidentals make for the subcontinent to be a compelling case for the civilisation to form and flourish from the earliest times of prehistory. Comparable probably to the conditions which would have existed in the Africa for the mankind to form, evolve and propagate accross the world. Not that there were no other places on earth at that time where humans and civilizations could form & evolve. Just that these regions happened to make stronger cases for the developments to take birth and sustain longer than the most other competing circumstances existed elsewhere on earth. All these were not manmade but natural and therefore coincidental. If it was the act of invisible hand etc., well, many people believe it to be so. The question is whether anything that is older or indigenous qualifies it to be naturally superior. Answer could be both yes and no. Older could be better exposed, more time tested and well adopted comparatively. Aspect of indigenous origin makes for owning something of value with pride. This bestows supposed superiority to the beholders of the heritage. It is a fact that India flourished accross many domains for very long in the past. India was exposed to many influences from the neighbouring as well as from the far away regions, even during ancient times, is uncontested. Therefore language, grammar, art & culture, trade, sci, warfare etc. would have found opportunities to develop, be perfected and deversified comparatively quickly. As a result advancemts in life, both spiritually and materially, appeared and showed greater progress in India much earlier and lasted much longer. All of these are as a result continuous natural processes. Finally since about 1200 years ago certain new forces emerged in our neighbourhood which brought about certain abrurupt and enforced changes. These were apparently quite brutal and the local population had to succumb to those forces or found themselves in indefensible circumstances. All of this lead to degradation of the indegenous systems of culture, traditions & customs, religion etc. Even in the face of very adverse situation the native stock showed the resilience to preserve and re-emerge. There is no stand alone civilization and India certainly does not aspire to be one. One thing that stands out uniquely for India is it's tradition of aquiring knowledge, wisdom and values from all sources whether it be internal or external and harness for the betterment of humanity and the mother nature and grow. This quality which is popularly known as tolerance, acceptance, generosity etc. places India in superior position which is not to be confused with supreme and powerful or dominant position. As the saying goes 'Owner's pride, Neighbour's envy'. Reason enough for the Hindu way of life and values to be known as Sanatana Dharma which means from the time immemorial and everlasting. Vasudeva Kutumbakam! Vandematram!! Jai Hind!
@robarcool
2 жыл бұрын
Very nice analysis. Koenraad ji presents his findings and refutes others' views with sound logic
@112deeps
2 жыл бұрын
common sense - Population density greatest in India and Less in Central Asis as it is now hence population movement would be in both direction however the trade luxuries metal utensils precious and semi-precious stones jewellery migration out of India would be larger than Central Asian migration selling Horses into India Out of India Migration >> Central Asian Migration into India = Total movement would be more out of India than Into India
@Faus4us
2 жыл бұрын
This is great! Soon all people will know humanity is one People of many tongues and creeds.
@s.b626
8 ай бұрын
So many points to consider. Thank you
@vaibhavmishra6249
2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful session, thanks Sanjay Sir, plz manage more sessions with Koenraad Elst sir, ,🙏🙏🙏🙏
@sanjayshah7776
Жыл бұрын
Koenraad Elst big time deserves enormous respect for his knowledge, search for the REAL TRUTH , his objectivity and absolute professiona and thoroughl approach to both AIT & OIT
@kishoredevrana8371
2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou Dr. Keonard Elst Sir
@sumandasgupta6179
2 жыл бұрын
Namaskar to Dr Elst ji ... very very logical and naman to you!
@deepika2644
2 жыл бұрын
AWESOME 😎
@rameshkumarpenmetsa
2 жыл бұрын
The Land of India is the Ark of Noah.. The Big Ship,Traveled from Africa to Eurasian Lands. India supports all kinds of atmosphere like a continent. It has very diverse cultural origins. In this Land All people able to Coexist even with cultural differences.
@radheysharmadeka5951
2 жыл бұрын
Varaha Kalpa Dharani..
@satyanarayanakuppabadari7447
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Thank you Sri Sanjay Dixitji. Just one suggestion. Whenever slides are displayed, let them be shown full screen. It allows us grasp the presentation better.
@danielhopkins296
2 жыл бұрын
An able presentation for sure, thnxs🙏 To be sure, Sir William Jones convincingly shows that Indians colonized Egypt and the learned philologist Edward Pococke shows even more Indian and influence on the world.
@bharatpandit4796
2 жыл бұрын
Koenard Elst Gives a birds eye-view of the debate about AIT vs OIT and makes useful suggestions. Hope scholars supportive of OIT pay heed and sharpen their arguments, integrate findings of hard sciences with those of linguistics and archeology. I am sure OIT argument will win and rule the narrative and bust break India intellectual enterprise.
@RamapatiMaurya
2 жыл бұрын
What our Indian Archeological survey of India is doing? Why are they not doing research and publish a paper on this topic. India is for away to show their knowledge and heritage to the world because of this reason our country is facing too much challenges. Western country take our knowledge and patent it on their name..
@trishul9117
2 жыл бұрын
Hare vishnu...
@soul_in_search_of_enlightm2131
2 жыл бұрын
Great session 🙏
@kapa5970
2 жыл бұрын
Great hardworking by Koenaarddji, Shat Shat Naman
@michelle-vedic-human4723
2 жыл бұрын
Namaste: 🕉🙏: Roma (Gypsies) originated in the Punjab region of northern India as a nomadic people and entered Europe between the eighth and tenth centuries C.E. They were called "Gypsies" because Europeans mistakenly believed they came from Egypt. This minority is made up of distinct groups called "tribes" or "nations." Gypsies worshiped goddess Kali, The tribe Roma also make a claim that their ancestors were an ancient warrior class in Punjab. It is said that this claim points out to Mohenjo Daro, one of the earliest towns in the Indus Valley Civilisation in the Sindh area also Rajasthan Haryana, SINDH, DNA research is also said to have established the European got mixed with gypsies’ during the gypsy exodus from native India now traces its genes to Northern India. It is believed that the various invasions in India led to the exodus of this tribe in three waves which led to the spread of the tribe across Persia, Turkey, Greece, Europe, Spain, Russia, Finland, Egypt and Morocco. The gypsies prefer being called Romany. They have retained the Romany language, which finds its roots in its native Hindu religion with goddess Kali and Sanskrit, 🕉🙏JAI hind. 🕉🙏shanti Aum.!!!
@deepika2644
2 жыл бұрын
BLESS YOU BOTH 🤗💖🧡✨
@amitprakash6316
2 жыл бұрын
Very much to learn from these scholars. 🙏
@adityapatel7544
2 жыл бұрын
I watched the video and it absolutely did not make any point nor did it provide any proof and went on superficially over subjects on some linguistics paper and other poofs without any point and the worst part Indians were thanking in the comments section for no reason at all. For some time I thought they were all some genetic scientists talking about how Abhijit Chavda is wrong and then he went onto linguistics and then something else...Phheeewwww. I have to say I would have been impressed with the video but sadly I have started examing thing and also channels like Abhijit Chavda and Jaipur Dialogues have helped me to understand more. Thanks to Koenraad Elst for speaking about this topic.
@radharawat4649
2 жыл бұрын
माइग्रेशन और आक्रमण थ्योरी तो , बिल्कुल ही बकवास थी , कोई साक्ष्य ही नहीं
@adityapatel7544
2 жыл бұрын
@@radharawat4649 The person also had problem with hindus especially. If he had given any proof then that may have been ok but even for hindu nationalist he does not have any proof that hindus are extremist; but they are because he said so.
@VSM101
2 жыл бұрын
True I found that strange and funny
@TheKumarmanoj
2 жыл бұрын
JAIPUR DIALOGUES PLZ MAKE VIDEO ABT THE INCIDENT IN PORKISTAAN WHERE A HINDU PREGNANT BABY 'S HEAD WAS SEPARATED AND THE BODY WAS LEFT IN D WOMB OF THE MOTHER.....NOW THIS A SERIOUS THING...THAT NEEDS TO TALKED ABT IN UN...HUMAN RIGHTS
@SaiyyadInnayaYassir
2 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@umakantgajjewar8898
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@RadhaKrishna-rp6uc
2 жыл бұрын
When inviting foreigners to speak please ensure thereis provision for English subtitles even if the guest is speaking in English.(due to dialect pronounciation difference)
@user-mb2ci4mt8t
2 жыл бұрын
Stonewall Deny(laugh) Accuse Abuse Give up(accept)
@challapallisivaprabhu174
Жыл бұрын
The Oxford Advanced Learners Dictionary and others have the practice of absorbing new words from all over the other regions of the world time to time. Now they are mensioning the origine of the word. In future there may be the possibility for the British to remove these origines of the foreign words and claim that English is the mother of all languages and showing their dictionary as the prime evidence.
@LOL-tz5kt
2 жыл бұрын
वन्दे मातरम्
@DB-MH11
2 жыл бұрын
Great session 🙏🏻
@shrinathsharma7708
2 жыл бұрын
Jay sanatan
@vikashkumar-vk3im
2 жыл бұрын
loved the discussion.
@AJAYSINGH-ns1vv
Жыл бұрын
Great insights.
@infidelhindu
2 жыл бұрын
How about the Bal Gangadhar Tilak theory that it started from the Arctic? He cites a statement in the Vedas about 'several months passing before the sun rose', an attribute which is only true about the poles
@vamsikrishna3855
2 жыл бұрын
Tilak is no archeologist nor historian. Several months passing and sun rising is after monsoon.. when heavy downpours for months used to be common india.
@gagadonim3354
Жыл бұрын
Tilak was Brahim supremacist who wanted to prove that Brahmins are cousins of Britishers so to get political power
@vijay-1
2 жыл бұрын
well explained
@dhirajpatil1783
2 жыл бұрын
Hello Sanjay ji, Please make a session with PGurus as well.
@RAKESHKUMAR-pl6gy
2 жыл бұрын
PLEASE SANJAY DIXIT SIR. A CHANNEL NAME " UNCOMPROMISING INDIA " PRAVEEN JI IS RUNNING THIS CHANNEL. A LOVE JIHAD VICTIM " PUSHPA PAL ". SHARED HER EXPERIENCE WITH PRAVEEN JI. PLEASE INVITE HER 🙏 IN YOUR CHANNEL ALSO 🙏. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🕉🕉🕉🕉🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
@infidelhindu
2 жыл бұрын
Dr Elst seems to flip his slides long before he's done talking about them. Better coordination b/w his descriptions and the slides would be suggested
@FatimaShaikhUAE
2 жыл бұрын
my best scholar konaard elst💞💞💞💞💞💞💖🕉🕉🕉🕉🛕🛕🛕🐄🐄🚩🚩🛐🕉💗💞
@AJAYSINGH-ns1vv
Жыл бұрын
You can't find actual date of vedas without being evolved highly spiritually. For mahabharT date please watch videos of vedvik channel named antim avtar part 1 and 2 then you will know somewhat how old vedas could be.
@gillkara
Жыл бұрын
Abhiijt Chavda should invite Elst to the podcast.
@AmitKumar-yc8ss
2 жыл бұрын
What about the findings of #NileshNilkhanthOak sir.
@sakshatkarandikar889
2 жыл бұрын
Nilesh oak findings are very far fetched
@gagadonim3354
Жыл бұрын
Fake non scientific
@Bunny-sn4iv
2 жыл бұрын
Great
@paulelliott9487
2 жыл бұрын
What can western neo-pagans who what to understand the origins of western paganism learn from the Out of India Theory? It is always assumed that the OIT/AIT controversy affects only India. I believe it also relevant to those who would understand the origins of western paganism.
@mahipalcharan6690
2 жыл бұрын
Firstly need to understand Rigvedic datas & Daashrajnya Yuddh & Vaarshagir Yuddh of RigVedic time and consequences kzitem.info/news/bejne/uZuuz2qAooSWo6A 👈👈
Williams Jones, Willson, Macoullys, Willfred, Maxmuller assumption on Sankrit litrature, Puranik Geneology, Ramayana ,Mahabharat ,Kalidasa literary work kzitem.info/news/bejne/u4KC1HWaonqhjaw 👈
@dharmrakshak6735
Жыл бұрын
They don't,They have forgotten their essence of old paganism.
@MaheshSingh-on4pv
2 жыл бұрын
🚩🚩🚩
@TheKvamshi10
2 жыл бұрын
@jaipurDialogues. Slides and talk are not consistent. pls fix it
@bharatpandit4796
2 жыл бұрын
Aryan identity is also the central to identity consciousness of Iranian and Afghanistan. Former shah of Iran carried the title ‘Aryamehar- the sun amongst the Aryans. Afghans name their important institutions like the national carrier as Ariana Airways. Even women are named Aryana.
@suryasen7
2 жыл бұрын
They are mostly fabricated identities much like Nazi Identity.
@nt3748
2 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏
@rajkumarpandey5066
2 жыл бұрын
Sir, voice of Elst sir extremely low in all your videos.
@developer2023
Жыл бұрын
The scrolling marquee at the bottom is so annoying. Can you keep your videos clean !
@neempatta6771
2 жыл бұрын
Occupation of lands
@prasantasen4394
2 жыл бұрын
Jay shree ram form West Bengal midnapure sa 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
@bmn-q1r
2 жыл бұрын
🙏🏽
@anandagarwal7237
2 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@TarunKumar-uo5gn
2 жыл бұрын
Except that linguistics does not allow for Out of India Theory but rather supports Aryan Migration Theory.
@gagadonim3354
Жыл бұрын
Litsen to shrikant talegiri. He proves it in rig veda how it is out of india
@user-mb2ci4mt8t
2 жыл бұрын
Pl make slide window bigger
@atulrai4519
2 жыл бұрын
Good job
@radhakrishnamohanty3807
2 жыл бұрын
Starting video is too much louder...
@himanshupandeya4104
2 жыл бұрын
Aarya shrestha
@unusualbug1113
Жыл бұрын
Promote OIT more
@vk2604
2 жыл бұрын
Whenever Mr.Elst is guest, plz make him talk to a close Mike. It is very difficult to comprehend his English normally.
@yams9466
2 жыл бұрын
I am half way through this video and I have a feeling that Sanjay sir was not present for most part!
@raghavarvoltore6517
2 жыл бұрын
Well he was there, I heard him laugh at one point in the video although I didn't see him. But its possible that he wasn't paying attention to many of it.
@ujjwal770
2 жыл бұрын
ram ram ji
@krchoudhary1285
2 жыл бұрын
❤❤
@kiranmodi5135
2 жыл бұрын
🌻🌻🙏🌻🙏🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻
@nishsingh5931
2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Elst gave arguements neither favouring nor ignoring the OIT. Though I believe that the DNA test is the most accurate way to solve this matter, Mr. Elst doesnt seems to be giving great importance to it. Nevertheless Thank you for validating the OIT. I am sure once the papers are out on this later this year, it will clear most of the picture.
@linguistme6870
9 ай бұрын
As Gentics suggest 2 immigrations one in 2200 -2100 BCE which was indeed an out of India while the one in 1600-1400 BCE was inside India as per reports of Dr Niraj Rai:)
@Gujjarhastag
2 жыл бұрын
👍
@DunningKrugerJnr
Жыл бұрын
No, it’s upsetting to people who prefer scientific facts to ethno-nationalism
@DunningKrugerJnr
Жыл бұрын
OIT is religious pseudo-scientific nonsense: kzitem.info/news/bejne/u6eGv4WPqZVjkn4
@insearchof9090
2 жыл бұрын
Associating Language with physical type(genes) is Wrong. This means that Mr. Elst is saying that It is not necessary that the speaker of English shall be an English man. Fair enough. But, the way Linguists are going about, they are trying to associate Physical types ( that is people) with the Language they spoke (Sanskrit). That is, they believe that English man will speak English only, which may seems correct for British Isles. But put this in context of India, ... is it possible that a person with Indian DNA will speak Hindi language only? Diversity factor eats this logic. Hence, i believe that Language of Genetics is better suited to find the movement of people. Where ever people go, they do sex and pass their genes to off-springs. Offspring DNA has something extra added to it other then from their parents by the way of evolution. Hence, Parents Genes are always a subset of children's DNA. A population group that has some DNA of India ancestry and rest being European, is actually a descendent of Indian fore fathers and mothers. And as far as researches are saying, Indian genes are found in European and Asian people, but their specific DNAs are missing In Indian Demography. Hence, it proves Out of India Theory.
@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg
Жыл бұрын
OIT , is nonsense ! Any body challenge ?
@ravigoojha1
2 жыл бұрын
Eurocentric stupidity. There something called the Ice Age, ten thousand years ago, when India was habitable and Europe was under 1 mile of ice! People all flocked to India to survive and learnt what civilization is all about. Then they slowly moved back to Europe, taking Sanskrit with them!
@aryadharmasanatanam
Жыл бұрын
Yes Becoz of Ice age North Indian have white skin and how can any one can travel as long in those periods 🤣😂
@ravikumarsingh7075
2 жыл бұрын
Is Sanskrit older than Pali & Prakrit or contemporary?
@VSM101
2 жыл бұрын
Sanskrit is a language of which there are many scripts.
@thelustprophet
2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@darkprince2490
2 жыл бұрын
There has always been prakrit and there has always been sanskrit. both depend on each other.
@Maolana_ModiG
2 жыл бұрын
Sab like kro video ko.
@bullet293
2 жыл бұрын
Sunao, kya nya tehlka laaye
@ambig1
2 жыл бұрын
When parashuram took the vow of take 7 rounds of the earth and kill all xatriyas (warrior or royals or kings lineage), many took refuge under earth (under ground) for generations till their generations s till they became pigmentally challanged (caucasians, whites) & later emerged out. Others gave up royalty & ran to Africa as atonement & lived under harsh 🌞 as tribals
@gagadonim3354
Жыл бұрын
Lol
@silversurfer3141
2 жыл бұрын
This is so interesting but boy is Koenraad boring. Keeps on droning.
@nvspraneeth901
2 жыл бұрын
Biden to ye theory sunte hi bike se gir gaya tha
@sakshatkarandikar889
2 жыл бұрын
What about 2019 paper general in which that indo Aryan migration happened
@darkprince2490
2 жыл бұрын
It's just western propaganda
@amlaanjthengal852
2 жыл бұрын
That paper didn't tell about any major migration. Moreover you are NOT a Scientist to understand a Research Paper.
@darkprince2490
2 жыл бұрын
@@amlaanjthengal852 there's a joke that harvard can find "steppe dna" in a rock if given the chance.
@bhaveshdk
2 жыл бұрын
Ujg
@NativeVsColonial
2 жыл бұрын
The actual invasions were far from what our distorted history presented, the invasions were never from Europe, instead it was done by Arabians and Persians (Araian/Iran) around 500BCE. The term 'Arya' and 'Aryan' are both different, the 'Arya' is a Sanskrit term, which stands for 'Nobel' or 'Nobility', Gautama Buddha have said something about 'Four Arya Satya' or 'Four Noble Truths', so about the term 'Arya' it is pretty clear that it is not a race; But the term 'Araian' or 'Aryan' is a race, which is made out of two compound words 'Ara'bian+Pers'ian', or Araian/Aryan, the 'Iran' terminology itself means 'Aryan' race expression. The story that anyone can animate: The climate in Arabia that time was getting uninhabitable, it might have changing very rapidly, lack of rainfall, ground level water were shrinking, staying in Arabia without today's modern equipments were impossible, so someone stood up and created a military cult to unite common people of Arabia for military expeditions, search for new habitable places outside Arab, and in the operation they invaded Persia and got mixed with Arab identity, and created a mixed race (Araian/Aryan) and that is how Persia is today known as 'Iran' and with that mixed identity Iranians/Aryans invaded India which today we know as Mughal Is'lamic Invasion.
@pooper2831
2 жыл бұрын
Total non sense you wrote. Iran and Aryan is derived from Arya only and not some arab-persian mix. Just refer to avesta and you will understand
@NativeVsColonial
2 жыл бұрын
@@pooper2831 Educate yourself, it will be much better
@pooper2831
2 жыл бұрын
@@NativeVsColonialsure educate me!! would you like to give any reference where anyone has told arabian+ persian = Arian ?
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