GREAT info for someone getting back into the sport after a long break.
@MuadDiiib
3 жыл бұрын
Mike, we need another video on this. Pls
@virtual_balboa
2 жыл бұрын
It's 2021. Paint is junk, and inconsistently sized more so than ever. Overboring is still the way to go though. Especially when paint expands later in the day when it gets warmer. Played an event and I was using my .690 back and this is in a desert state. Local field, also had to use the bigger back. But when it's been sitting and cooled off it shrinks quite a bit.
@virtual_balboa
Жыл бұрын
It's 2023 and Planet Eclipse makes the most reliable and efficient markers. Paint quality still sucks and it's hard to find good paint that ia consistently sizes. If you live in a humid area, I highly doubt you will nees anything smaller than a 685. The other weekend paint was sizing over 688 and I wish I had a larger barrel to use. You can overbore by a lot with a modern Eclipse gun and still shoot great with good efficiency.
@ILikeCheeseOnBees
11 ай бұрын
Always overbore
@rockonmyfriend
13 жыл бұрын
i use a .687 insert for rps nightmare paint... its a bit overbored, does not stick, but its not too loose... its good size for the "just in case" of a slightly irregular or expanded paintball. its a good overboring size for the small paint
@TheOutdoorsman790
12 жыл бұрын
Get the Freak Barrel System, it comes with a back with multiple inserts so you can match your insert to YOUR paint. Hope this helps.
@MrProtoking
12 жыл бұрын
well, bore size does matter but your boom stick or ultra-lite will work. it'll cause more aggravation trying to find a barrel for each type of paint. and the mini usually shoots rather well. so i think its not as big of a deal as you think
@DirectorFrisch
10 жыл бұрын
I have a J&J Performance 2-piece kit. Very smooth with the ceramic coating.
@Drift_Minion
12 жыл бұрын
Best thing to tell you guys is to pick up a bore sized, ans gear has them for like $15. Here in ny paint is just as small and I size at least 30 balls out of a case just to try and get an idea of the size, then depending on that I usually go one or two sizes up, I use a freak kit, and I'm much more consistant than when I use my stock .693 barrel. Yes this New info still applies for 2012.
@ktap1
14 жыл бұрын
@donitos34 wrong. testing done by Punkworks (actually quite a long time ago) shows that under-boring will not break more paint than over-boring.
@sarge727
14 жыл бұрын
@ChinchillaSniper lol GOOD, because thats a perfect match for my current barrel
@Breserker255
13 жыл бұрын
@Predator2169 i live in south texas, and down here draxxus paint is the standard paint at my field, I'm shooting draxxus bronze and by what I've seen, its boring out at between a .686 - .687, I'm using a dye ul .688 barrel and am getting very good results, hope this helps
@Damaku250
14 жыл бұрын
@TacticalPositivism unless of course you shoot an autococker / pump in which case you'll want to underbore to prevent roll-outs
@AGiantPapaya
12 жыл бұрын
This guy is the most usefull person in reference to paintball ever
@reddeada7x56
11 жыл бұрын
yes exactly just change inserts
@Klim0009
14 жыл бұрын
Sceptors rock. Oh how I regret selling mine.
@locketom
14 жыл бұрын
@baconator490 i dont see how, it would make more sense the other way around, overboring means theres less friction on the ball meaning its easier to get a higher velocity, so less air is needed, underboring means theres more friction on the ball meaning its harder to get a higher velocity, meaning it needs more air, also overboring gets much higher consistensy
@VeryTucker
14 жыл бұрын
phantom stock barrel with a .682-.685 python back. (it can get a little chilly and there isnt as much moisture in MN)
@ThTgUyInUrBaSmEnT
9 жыл бұрын
5 years later.. I wonder what it is.. I got a .683 back and im freaking out that its gonna be small
@delawaresrealtornick5670
7 жыл бұрын
ThTgUyInUrBaSmEnT 683 is good for paint now days. underbore is absolutely the way to go now, all big teams underbore
@locketom
14 жыл бұрын
@baconator490 i still like overboring, its much more consistant, alot more forgiving on paint, also if you chop or break a ball you have that extra space to get the other balls out without too much corkscrewing, and i would like to note since i started overboring i haent broken a single ball in my barrel, i started over boring more than a year ago
@kevinwade8744
11 жыл бұрын
I am too! I've heard .685 to .689 is the way to go
@Olskoolbeats
14 жыл бұрын
@CRAZYCEOPS It would be 14 inches. Don't count overall length. Remember that about 1-2 inches are going to be the threading.
@TytoProductions
11 жыл бұрын
What about field paint? Here in Quebec, Canada (eh?) you can't bring your own paint unless you have a private field. I've found that field paint, because of the thicker shells, is larger than average.
@OneOfMyBadDays
12 жыл бұрын
@RAGEPAINTBALL2011 that should be fine. i live in nj... i have a 689 that works great with valken field paintb but wen i bought heat paintballs, they were significantly smaller.
@studogg99
14 жыл бұрын
i tested 5 balls throw my barrels just rolling them down till i get a nice fit.
@stan1234655
14 жыл бұрын
My field paint is huge! .693 and it catches in the barrel haha
@ImTheMayor
14 жыл бұрын
If you underbore, the next ball after a broken one will clean at least the front part of the barrel out.
@LordOdinPresents
14 жыл бұрын
Actually, underboring creates a better seal and propels the balls faster. You have to turn down your regulator to use less air to accomplish the same task, which is reach the same field velocity. This leads to less air being used and the end result is higher efficiency.
@baconator490
14 жыл бұрын
your gun uses the same amount of air shooting a paintball out of a .693 vs a .680 When overboring air goes past the ball because there is a horrible seal down the barrel. Underboring compresses so there is a seal and no air escapes until it reaches porting so the air can push against the ball all the way through the bore part
@htebreeder
14 жыл бұрын
but underboring makes it so no air escapes around the ball, more air is pushing the ball. More than one factor comes into play with the barrels.
@we4ks4uc
11 жыл бұрын
this is late but I'd go with the Critical barrels cheaper than the Freaks but still pretty good.
@TheOutdoorsman790
12 жыл бұрын
thanks. i never thought of it that way. im not sure if the resof the barrel helps or not. im no expert on painball
@Jolbulka
14 жыл бұрын
@CovertRipper12 I have 690 and I NEVER, again NEVER had a decent matching ball. 686 should be stock standard at the moment. Many balls are matching 683 tho, but 686 is more universal barrel.
@TheCommanderphoenix
11 жыл бұрын
right on
@wifb77
14 жыл бұрын
@seattleaftermath just take All the screws out and pry the shell open and wiggle the lid off
@cmkcc
14 жыл бұрын
mike i have watched a shit load of your vids, is it your job doing them or do you just do them for fun?
@baconator490
14 жыл бұрын
its personal preference. Id rather underbore now because paint is getting smaller and smaller and overbored barrels now are like .690 they used to be .693+. You really shouldnt have to worry about barrel breaks if your using good paint though
@picknuitt
14 жыл бұрын
i agree with patmesekhani!!!!!! i need an upgrade from a 09 slg =[ and i am lookin at those guns. i think it would be a great vid.
@shizbisquit
14 жыл бұрын
@dontuenvyme that's so true, im glad i did that when i was buyin my 1st gear a few years ago. and @superluke33, unless im mistaken, it's a .687/.686
@Lacerda935
14 жыл бұрын
@patmeserkhani etek 3 for sure
@lilbleezy777
14 жыл бұрын
Just go to your local store and buy a bag of draxxus paint and check out the bore.
@dannyboy768
11 жыл бұрын
LOL I just ordered a CP .689 and watched the old video. I got so mad, now I watched this one and it's all good :D
@R4DCreations
14 жыл бұрын
on all the boxes they always said .68 caliber anyway. they are just correcting the size to the description
@broadblik
14 жыл бұрын
Godamnit, smallest barrel I have is a .688, looks like more barrels for me...
@Neity_
8 жыл бұрын
revisite it again for 2k16 please? would be great.
@BURNOUT177
10 жыл бұрын
I still shoot a 689 and on my pump a 92. never have any problems at all, I tried shooting 85 and it works but I don't shoot it anymore
@TristanTorgersen
14 жыл бұрын
I remember about 07-ish to December 08 the paint was HUGE, here in NC I was getting mostly DXS and even some Diablo that were about .689-.692. Now, my .691 is WAY overbored, even my .685 CP is a lil big, just plain crazy! Who needs .50 cal when you have smaller and smaller .68? jk
@Dillonisgone
12 жыл бұрын
@Jester0813 Yeah paint is still rather smaller
@jtusa181
14 жыл бұрын
@ xXKawasakiKrazyXx hahaha ikr! time to dust off the smaller bores
@anthony__aznar
11 жыл бұрын
I saw a rich kid use it on a spyder about 3 weeks ago. I asked him a few questions about his gun and he didn't know shit. Plus his gun was giving him problems the whole day.
@TheMetalHeaD256
12 жыл бұрын
okay correct me if i'm wrong here... but if you're using a Freak system, then what's the point of having the rest of the barrel? if the 4-inch insert is the only part gripping the ball, then wouldn't the rest of the barrel be of purely detrimental effect? because if the ball hits the rest of the barrel that is completely oversized, after leaving the insert, wouldn't that put a spin on the ball and ruin accuracy? that's the way i see it. let me know if i'm wrong.
@ryanfagan7466
14 жыл бұрын
i should just get a freak barrel kit n just save the trouble haha
@anthony__aznar
11 жыл бұрын
Is it bad to really overbore? Like using a .693 barrel on a .682 ball or maybe even a .50 ball? Is it better to be close? If the barrel is roughly the same bore as the ball, wouldn't it produce maximum propulsion like a pneumatic piston (assuming the force is greater than the friction between the barrel and ball)?
@MrBIGG360
13 жыл бұрын
wow just bought 692. cf boomstick and live in mn. DAMN
@jonthekiwi
9 жыл бұрын
Sooo... The recommendation would be a barrel kit??
@ZkillerZ2000
13 жыл бұрын
@PELLEmanMIKE thanks
@Fl00xX
14 жыл бұрын
.679 grips perfect on most of the fieldpaint - very low humidity here. I knew i would need my Freakset someday >_< First time i used my 682 insert :D
@dontuenvyme
14 жыл бұрын
@MrSketchyT1 dont get a gun first!!!!!!!!! get these in order: mask, hopper, hpa tank, harness w/ pods, THEN gun. "a tipman 98c w/ a good hopper and tank will shoot better than an ego with a Co2 tank and a shake hopper"- paintballtechpb. ---------------------quote from paintballttechpb's budget baller show---------------------------
@dsgballer
14 жыл бұрын
@Sageisstupid well with a one piece and .689 is a .689 all the way through and with a 2 piece such as a dye ul its a .688 back with a .670 front
@vladimirlopez7840
10 жыл бұрын
great I just bought a 693 barrel I'm in South Florida now I'm wondering if i made the right choice
@brycelarson
14 жыл бұрын
I shot .690 paint through my .679 freak last weekend. shot great. :)
@urbangypsy89
12 жыл бұрын
yes it is
@TheSuperRunner
14 жыл бұрын
Interesting.
@munkybomb902
13 жыл бұрын
i would love to see someone use just a barrel insert and a bag of paint at a field XD
@SuperGreenough
11 жыл бұрын
All of them?! Why buy a freak barrel if you're not having all the inserts
@TheMetalHeaD256
12 жыл бұрын
i've found that it does.
@anthony__aznar
11 жыл бұрын
I think you can just convert it. Check out Mike's .50 cal show with the Pinokio hopper and ego and he'll show you how he converted his Pinokio.
@TruthisLying
11 жыл бұрын
To shoot most paint but not as accurate I would go for .689. If you have your gun's stock barrel go for a .685
@Antropic1
12 жыл бұрын
I was planning on buying a Dye Broomstick 3D or an Ultralite, but what if the paint at my field doesn't fit in ym barrel perfectly? I'll have to get another barrel JUST for this paint? *I have an Empire Mini 2012*
@Dr.MikeGranato
14 жыл бұрын
@LegionsPaintball tanks uve been helpfull
@patmeserkhani
14 жыл бұрын
hey mike can you please do a review on the cci phantom pump. i want to get into pump and also want to talk about the co2 canisters. can you configure it so that i could use a hps tank
@mike212916
11 жыл бұрын
its good for kids that are afraid to play, talkin bout JT. i hate playin with little kids who are scare and accidently shot me when i tell them to move forward
@PS3PLAYERS78
12 жыл бұрын
Ask the field owner what size the paint is.
@delawaresrealtornick5670
7 жыл бұрын
yea please do a new one Mike! people swear underbore is absolutely the way to go now. I like ur outlooks usually, so a 2017 update would be great!
@Nowen97
11 жыл бұрын
freak barrel set
@locketom
14 жыл бұрын
@Isuckatpaintball2 less cost for the companies because less material for making paintballs and less weight to ship
@anthony__aznar
11 жыл бұрын
You said you have not seen a single person use .50 cal. I'm just sharing my story of the time I did.
@Dr.MikeGranato
14 жыл бұрын
@LegionsPaintball why thank you sir, what about zing, graffiti or marbalizers (my home firld's paint)?
@RangersRock17
12 жыл бұрын
No. only 2010.
@Antropic1
12 жыл бұрын
Thanks :D
@Olskoolbeats
14 жыл бұрын
@xprohitman21x Yes.
@trophyhunter147
14 жыл бұрын
dang it i just bought a .693 CP barrel like 4 months ago!!! :-(
@AxisPaintballHD
12 жыл бұрын
My field uses .683 paint and I'm using a .689 barrel. Is that a significant difference and should I buy an insert?
@stevenmayer86
11 жыл бұрын
Well, I live in an area gets really humid during the summer and i took your advise from the first overboring video and bought a .693 stiffi barrel.... the last time i played paintball, i noticed that i couldn't get the fps that i had much earlier in the year.... what would you recommend?
@TheMetalHeaD256
12 жыл бұрын
Ok the barrel that comes stock on my BT-4 Omega is a .693 i'm sure, because there's practically a millimeter of distance between the top of the barrel and the Valken field paint that my field sells. i think i need a smaller-bore barrel... i guess my best option is the Lapco Big Shot apex-ready barrel at .687 (yes i want an Apex on there). does anyone know if this fits the M-16 shroud on my BT? or does anyone know of a better barrel than the Lapco?
@AndrewPaintballs
14 жыл бұрын
Mike I play at Extreme Rage, and shoot their DXS Custom paint that they sell there. What bore size is it I cant find it anywhere?
@Luxeee
13 жыл бұрын
So to the people that live in California in the Bay Area or the East Bay what bore should I use a the weather in the summer is like 79-high 90's low hundreds in the winter is is cold like low 70's and high 60's, should I get a .689 bore since the companies are making their paintballs smaller?
@PELLEmanMIKE
13 жыл бұрын
@ZkillerZ2000 i use a .688
@SeanChan33
14 жыл бұрын
@GOMLMw21 yup no problem
@nobody_unkn
14 жыл бұрын
hey mike why dont you do a review on the CCM Pumps. CCM-S6, T2
@MikeyisNinja
14 жыл бұрын
i think they actually have those
@TheMetalHeaD256
12 жыл бұрын
also i'd like to add that i'm getting practically no range at all out of my barrel atm... drops about a foot after 20 yards. should i expect this with every barrel?
@patmeserkhani
14 жыл бұрын
hey mike which gun do you believe is the best of these 3? dangerous power fx fusion, proto rail, or the ego etek 3 lt? please respond and if you can you should do a little battle vid ; )
@randomshiz97
14 жыл бұрын
@CovertRipper12 ok kool thanks :)
@LordOdinPresents
14 жыл бұрын
You said they use the same amount of air, which isn't true.
@SeanChan33
14 жыл бұрын
@GOMLMw21 Rps stinger, DXS basic or bronze, Xo spectrum
@masm00284
12 жыл бұрын
so your paintballs are supposed to fit snug in the barrel?
@Mike11069
14 жыл бұрын
whats the difference between the CP 1-piece classic and the 1-piece combat classic?
@bacon4mycereal
11 жыл бұрын
This video is 3 years old. What size is the average paint now?
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