Storm can cancel the normal with her float. If you don't float, the HP recovery is normal.
@horacionivar2869
Жыл бұрын
yo idk if u watched Young Justice but u reminded me of Forager at the end of the video🤣
@BDDterror
Жыл бұрын
Honorable mention to sfa2 akuma
@BDDterror
Жыл бұрын
@@chobonghwan facts
@missquake
Жыл бұрын
Who are you?
@MundaneAxiom
Жыл бұрын
I love how half of Justin's moves boil down to "this is why moves should have recovery frames"
@elijahoneill5228
Жыл бұрын
And startup a lot of instant moves as well
@Staticsheep28
Жыл бұрын
Or non active frames in general.
@SP_Sour
Жыл бұрын
LK: "Good old Arc System Works, nothing beats that" JW: "Good old 90s Capcom, nothing beats that"
@glacierwolf2155
8 ай бұрын
Great minds think alike.
@Alejandro-er7rp
7 ай бұрын
the best part is that they are both right
@Cashmoneez
Жыл бұрын
LK be like: “this move was op, ran the meta, and was constantly nerfed” And Justin just says “ok.” and proceeds to show some demonic shit from an old game
@pyromaniacforhire
Жыл бұрын
Justin pulled out the dusty Necronomicon.
@aspoonofgarlic6676
Жыл бұрын
Justin Wong is the pope and just mentions everything that's fucking evil about these moves
@@pyromaniacforhirePlaying on the Necronomiconsole
@Midekai
9 ай бұрын
@@bunnybreakerunderrated reply lol
@THeKallOfCtulu
Жыл бұрын
Learning there's a *more* busted version of storm in a Versus game is blowing my mind
@tearitup5864
Жыл бұрын
And here I thought marvel 2 was the crème de la crème….
@NeoBoneGirl
Жыл бұрын
The main thing that pushes Elphelt Shotgun to be annoying is that it does mad chip for no reason. It's basically proto guard crush, and she's already got a command grab to make you scared of blocking. It would at least encourage Elphelt players to go to the grab that leaves a gap instead of just chipping you out and forcing a response
@BxnnyBride
Жыл бұрын
Elphelt my beloved
@rowleyryan9025
Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see what they do with her when she inevitably gets into strive
@MusicoftheDamned
Жыл бұрын
@@rowleyryan9025I'll laugh if she never makes it into _Strive_ like how neither Robo-Ky nor Zappa got into _Xrd_ despite being in story mode: "Elphelt died on the way back to her home planet."
@speenta4879
7 ай бұрын
@@MusicoftheDamned well well well
@MusicoftheDamned
7 ай бұрын
@@speenta4879 Funnily enough, I got the best outcome it seems: a death metal Elphelt who is essentially Noel Vermillion & basically a completely different character anyway *and* getting a bunch of funny reactions to her release.
@fabioandrade8476
Жыл бұрын
Justin didn't mention that when Yun is in Genei all his moves have super priority. So you can't even trade with him, even his lights will beat any other normal.
@LadyMorrigan
Жыл бұрын
💀
@michaelwhitmire9015
Жыл бұрын
Yun also has a infinite in third strike due to genei.
@sargassosea3432
Жыл бұрын
I believe that was the point Justin was trying to make when he mentioned that Genei Jin changed all of Yun's frame data and notably his crouching light kick became 2 frames during Genei Jin. Justin mentioned that the fastest button in the game is 2 frames. In other words Yun's buttons come out faster than almost every button from the rest of the cast and can only be matched not beaten in frame data. Basically all his moves have super priority, as you said. 22:52
@fabioandrade8476
Жыл бұрын
@@sargassosea3432 Yes, the frame data changes, but 3rd strike does have an actual priority system. If two moves would hit on the same frame the higher strength one will beat the lower one, but since all Yun's normals are now counted as "super" it beats all other regular normals.
@MusicoftheDamned
Жыл бұрын
@@fabioandrade8476Ugh. Learning this male m now feel even more justified loathing fighting Yun even if Chun-li is arguably better overall. Genei-Jin is *so* dumb, and yet it wouldn't be nearly as bad if he couldn't effortlessly get like half of his meter back after hitting you with it after it ends.
@SoFishtry
Жыл бұрын
That storm super jump is the funniest shit I've seen in one of these I think. So goofy
@deadfr0g
Жыл бұрын
Yessss, these collabs have been so good!! I’m really looking forward to the next entry, “Unprovoked Attacks in Fighting Games (With Jiyuna)”
@TalesNT
Жыл бұрын
Back on GGX Dust Attack was performed by pressing S+HS and they all had the same Dust that appears when you Super Jump. So when XX was made and they created its own button they used the same name.
@_Jay_Maker_
Жыл бұрын
Yep, I always assumed it was this. It's called "Dust" because it's an auto-launcher that literally kicked up dust when it animated.
@BBGunRenegade
Жыл бұрын
One thing about Genei Jin that I don't think got mentioned. 3rd Strike has a priority system for how trades are determined so heavy normals almost beat medium and medium always beat light etc. Supers have the highest priority and Genei Jin makes it so that everyone of Yun's normals has super priority so you can't challenge him during it
@emperormegaman3856
4 ай бұрын
Damn, I heard that this thing was broken, I 've see it is broken when playing 3rd strike... I didn't realize it was THAT broken
@jnet124
Жыл бұрын
This series is extremely dope. though I don't know if this is up your alley or if you can find anyone who can help you out, i'd love to see some more "poverty" or "Kusoge" broken moves, Stuff like E's Laf where characters like Alcott have Super busted normals, or the best non-metered DP in any game ive played. Seeing justins inputs on moves everyone knows is broken like genijin and learning how and why was super duper interesting! keep up the good stuff.
@ThePrototype047
Жыл бұрын
For elphelt you forget to mention that the shotgun shot counts as a projectile but you can't blitz it. That max range should have been the metric for blitzing all projectile distances but you can't.
@Iguessimhere154
Жыл бұрын
It's great to get old school players like Jwong on board for this series cause that's where you get the jank and cheapest things that is lost in history
@cirro51
Жыл бұрын
I wish these games had a function in which you could play whichever patch version you wanted. Kind of like USF4. Granted if you wanted to play against someone they would have to either select the same version or allow select all version to play against. I think that'd be interesting for nonranked online or local player versus and training modes. It's a shame we can't go back and see some of these jank moves in their original glory or inglorious however you want to look at it.
@ChillyGotBenched
Жыл бұрын
I love how LK is really trying to vary the content and have dope collabs
@lucasterra8783
Жыл бұрын
LordKnight was probably gobsmacked when Justin was explaining Sentinel's fly move.
@Jaesnek
Жыл бұрын
When I saw Shadow Labrys my brain went to thinking about her unlockable bite setups from 1.0 P4U2, but Titanomachy is also broken as shit and 1.1 was even more ridiculous.
@EthanOverE-Z
Жыл бұрын
He needs to get someone to talk about NRS's problem with instant air projectiles.
@FlyXcur
6 ай бұрын
Someone needs to get in here with mk9 Kabal and his ability to infinite block string you to death if you have the execution.
@andrewpurdy6743
Жыл бұрын
Throwing a guess out there. The slow fall mechanic is acting as an animation cancel that happens immediately after the first frame of the fierce. Magneto doesn’t have slow fall so it doesn’t trigger as an animation cancel.
@hcaelBBleach
Жыл бұрын
Old school players are always my favorite ppl to listen to. Forever heroes imo
@bruceleeds7988
Жыл бұрын
16:00 If it is not clear to people, Justin is taking about Storm from X-Men Vs Street Fighter
@sandau44
Жыл бұрын
JWong knows more about games I've never heard of than I know about my main games lmao what a legend
@fubsysukina5279
Жыл бұрын
Awesome video you two! Was very enjoyable!
@floatinsardines8104
Жыл бұрын
keep this content up, it's fun to learn about whack shenanigans you'd see and you'll learn some history as well
@VendreadMike95
11 күн бұрын
THE BEST KZitem Fighting game channel. You can't go wrong with Justin Wong.
@user-kv1hm2wo6y
Жыл бұрын
6:37 "I don't know why they called it dust." Since game is collection of music references Dust button might be homage to Queen's song "Another one bites the dust". There are plenty of ways that you can hurt a man And bring him to the ground You can beat him You can cheat him You can treat him bad and leave him When he's down But I'm ready yes I'm ready for you I'm standing on my own two feet As he should while blocking dust overhead.
@fortissimo_ssb
Жыл бұрын
I had no idea how technical Sentinal was in Marvel 2 before this
@NothingLeftToDoButWin
Жыл бұрын
Great synergy between you guys. I’d love more content with both of you. Subbing now!
@Eji1700
Жыл бұрын
Love that you're doing this. Would adore if you could get some Soul Calibur old hands on here. SC3 and 4 HAD SOME SHIT. 3 had the G22 glitch from 2 on CRACK (you ever been +22 on block?) which affected the entire cast, and IV had "touch someone anywhere and ring them out" combo nonsense from Hilde, and that's just off the top of my head.
@Eji1700
Жыл бұрын
@@signalnoiz Ohhh man. I never got into to comp SC2 outside of watching matches, but I wanted to main Yung and didn't even know it was THAT bad. Whole series is wacky, and I think sadly because of that, slept on a bit given how strong the recent entry was.
@GarethXL
Жыл бұрын
remember you want to win? pick the top tier
@itsCrust
Жыл бұрын
more like WK
@Seydaschu
Жыл бұрын
When LK said "shotgun stance", Elphelt that!🥺
@himuragoXD
Жыл бұрын
15:23 that mash from justin though hahaha
@evidencedotzip
Жыл бұрын
Dude, do this with everyone who’s willing hahaha, I love these! Plus, lord knows there’s no shortage of BULLSHIT to cover!
@rainy4902
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think chun li’s II special in third strike is pretty broken, no matter what you do it will always do damage, and a lot of it, even chip damage has enough to kill, I mean, unless you parry or something, but I doubt anyone can parry the entire attack string, right Justin?
@rwdd64
6 ай бұрын
I dont really play fighting games but i like content about it, especially jmcrofts ( that's where i discovered your channel from! (: ) but i saw that elphelt was added into strive and ive never seen her in xrd! She seems to be pretty different in terms of personallity and appearance. Very cool! Also, really like your vids, going to subscribe :)
@ZzigZaG00NIN
Жыл бұрын
ooh second Impact and Good ol Yun Genei Jin
@inosenso6281
Жыл бұрын
I look forward to these thumbnails every time
@thechugg4372
Жыл бұрын
The funniest shit is that, even if Elphelt only had the shotgun and had zero other moves, she would STILL be the best character in the game
@poopbuttmcgee
Жыл бұрын
Shadow Labrys playin Heritage for the Future frfr
@Existgoth
Жыл бұрын
can't believe you had one of the co creators (with daigo) of eSports on here
@grimedoc8180
Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to when someone talks about Vergil's belt, or Dark Phoenix's cr.lp. These cannot be ignored forever lol
@vyris2663
Жыл бұрын
12:14 ngl, that made me spit out my drink.
@cynix88
Жыл бұрын
Happy chaos sipping wine(he’s using a silly straw)
@QuantemDeconstructor
Жыл бұрын
knowing JWong Chun SA2 is gonna get talked about
@momoTAMAGOTCHI
Жыл бұрын
Your channel should be called Let's go Justin!
@MoeHasubandoAbsolver
Жыл бұрын
Damn I didn't know Yipes had it like that
@Fleetw00d
Жыл бұрын
Adding "game defining" to my FG buzzwords list. I now know the real definition
@xWebdriverTorso
5 ай бұрын
I know this is an older vid so I probably want get a response, but that hoodie is dope af? Linkage?
@1000Tomatoes
Жыл бұрын
Justin really is doing the teehee pose in the thumbnail.
@aj991
Жыл бұрын
Finally somebody talk about genei jin.
@Gokuboy2002
Жыл бұрын
Some of those second impact stages are beautiful. Should of been in third strike
@mariop8852
Жыл бұрын
Really surprised not to see +R Zappa Sword.
@GameConnoisseur69
Жыл бұрын
These videos are sooooo mf good
@kawaiiempoleon8721
Жыл бұрын
Doesn't elphelts stance have an infinite block string if you don't know where to instant block it
@smashfam1
Жыл бұрын
Whats the music at 11:24 while JW talks about Storm?
@PoiPoi5189
Жыл бұрын
This was cool
@Living_Target
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact I think dust was called launcher in the original GG. When they changed it to dust the follow up was renamed to homing jump over chase jump so maybe it's a sonic reference
@dermert
Жыл бұрын
God i can't remember what game the song playing at 13:41 is from. I know what it is BUT I CANT REMEMBER.
@lordice5
Жыл бұрын
When a command normal is a single button option select
@Gamersgoinblind
Жыл бұрын
We need like Mr.MKL or Woolie for one of these but more for indie, obscure, or kusoge fighting games.
@zkittlesbutbetter
11 ай бұрын
Ok I know platform fighters are different, but Meta-Knight’s Mach Tornado in Smash Brawl is actually insane. It’s a recovery, it’s a good movement option, it’s huge, it’s fast, it does good damage, and it’s basically unpunishable.
@bliksemridder7936
6 ай бұрын
Im surprised he didn't show the entire moves kit of chaos on strive
@TheStrategist314
Жыл бұрын
Collabs with Wong are the best.
@NasuPrime
Жыл бұрын
Ain’t no way doom footdive didn’t make it in
@LordKnightfgc
Жыл бұрын
I'm actually hype to get a MVC3 expert for one of these hahaha
@eW91dHViZSBpcyBjZW5zb3JzaGlw
Жыл бұрын
hi nasu.
@NasuPrime
Жыл бұрын
@@eW91dHViZSBpcyBjZW5zb3JzaGlw henlo
@Muzjinn
4 ай бұрын
Off topic but LordKnight got nice ass eyelashes. Like he has natural pharaoh eyeliner on.
@TSTwohands
Жыл бұрын
i loved this
@mrsurprise2294
Жыл бұрын
Strider mvc 1 orbs, black heart air special mvsf does lots on block and hit, kid goku tenkaichi 3 false courage, kid buu had those flurry of punches that went on forever builds meter and drain yours dodging., slim buus ball special was pretty hard to punish as well. Zangief launcher in xvsf for the easiest infinte just two buttons, Juggernaut xvsf another easy inf throw in the corner to constant forward heavy punch, wolverine speedy mode in mvsf if you activate it when other character about to come in you can cross them up and land easy 1 hit heavy punch 100% reset, mvsf omega strike covers long distance can retract to not get punished, powerstone falcon and ayane tracking specials you need practice dodging those
@1demcrispylinks880
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if Justin was talking about pyrolee’s yun? 26:03
@vincentn872
11 ай бұрын
He definitely is, he even chose his colors lol.
@PopstarDracula
Жыл бұрын
Flying characters are almost always near or top tier. Painwheel and Merkava are the main exceptions to come to mind
@Living_Target
Жыл бұрын
Still waiting for Baiken's Baku to show its head on the series.
@SuuBrainrot
Жыл бұрын
Correction in 8:21 Strive has ONE character, Bridget, whose command grab isn't coded to be throw invun however it might as well be, since it's airborne after the 4 frame startup (which is really the only point where you can throw her out of it) don't think it ever comes into play though because she'll never use it in a range where you can be normal thrown anyways
@GlowingOrangeOoze
Жыл бұрын
the window to ground throw her after she lands isn't that bad actually it's like 5 frames. I've done it on a hard read before because I think it's funny.
@emeraldmann1329
Жыл бұрын
Winter Mantis and Leo's backturn command grab aren't throw invuln either
@jasonfallel8829
Жыл бұрын
HOW OLD IS LORD KNIGHT?!
@EXFrost
Жыл бұрын
Got hit by the aging beam
@jasonfallel8829
Жыл бұрын
@@EXFrost we already know he is gay , but how old is he?
@AngelusNielson
Жыл бұрын
Combos were originally bugs in the programing.
@pnda595
Жыл бұрын
youy dont know why the move that throws dust up at people crouching is called dust?
@ThePivotaddict
7 күн бұрын
all the anime games are confusing until you understand what is happening. The old capcom/snk games are even more confusing once you learn whats happening with usually only one correct answer if there is one (good luck implementing it)
@0ctopusComp1etely
Жыл бұрын
Shadow Labrys IS my waifu 😆 Man, I miss watching Banana Ken play her. His lab combos were inspirational.
I still say that when I think of an "install" super I don't think of dragon install I think of genei jin.
@NSAgent
Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Sean's 2nd impact tornado kick didn't make it. That move is stupid LoL
@BDDterror
Жыл бұрын
We need a tekken tag 1 player to go over Jin in that game for tekken he sometimes else
@carcosa_swamp
Жыл бұрын
Its funny to me that Justin says SF3 second impact Akuma is most busted when if SF Movie the game he is a walking braindead touch of death combo lol
@millerwrightt
Жыл бұрын
P sure Justin doesn't feel comfortable saying anything about that game that could be perceived as negative after how mad people got at him last time
@KaitouKaiju
Жыл бұрын
@@millerwrightt why are people mad at Justin over a trash movie tie in
@millerwrightt
Жыл бұрын
@@KaitouKaiju Justin said the game was "so bad" while playing it in an online tournament last year. A guy made a KZitem video calling out Justin, saying that Justin was being offensive to the people in the street fighter movie game community
@KaitouKaiju
Жыл бұрын
@@millerwrightt So it's just one dude and fans of a bad game lol
@Inojin67
Жыл бұрын
@@millerwrightt funny because "so bad" is probably the least negative take I've seen on street fighter the movie the game
@deeannchesebro
8 ай бұрын
He always says he's gunna one up them then never actually does
@user-cc3ef7qh1x
Жыл бұрын
waiting for king
@benro6564
Жыл бұрын
Obligatory smash mention, Brawl Meta Knight's tornado literally shut down some matchups, you needed a massive disjoint to hit him without him hitting you, it was a recovery, neutral tool, advantage, edge guarding, literally anything you could want. There is a clip of a doubles match where all 4 players were using meta knight and all tornado at the same time. It's legendary Bayonetta's witch time in smash 4 is similarly broken, it's a counter that will basically always lead to an instant kill.
@drunkredninja
Жыл бұрын
Intended gameplay design vs emergent gameplay
@momoTAMAGOTCHI
Жыл бұрын
I'll click on anything with Elphelt
@j.a.g816
Жыл бұрын
wait what game is that goddess summon from
@MusicoftheDamned
Жыл бұрын
Provided you're still looking for the answer, the game was _Granblue Fantasy: Versus_ which I have never played myself but "know" the summon in question is the character Lowain's most aggravating super.
@yokoyokome5281
Жыл бұрын
I'm shock you didn't add Morrigan mvc3. Man she's broken
@ttt22tt33
Жыл бұрын
37:23 WTF
@boxatron8010
Жыл бұрын
I'm just gonna ask this why is his version of Xrd in Japanese
@user-gj8xb8uv4n
Жыл бұрын
6:39 The move is called Dust because it is like most characters an Homage to Rock music culture, and this particular is a reference to Queen's song "another one bites the DUST".
@user-cc3ef7qh1x
Жыл бұрын
That's a very far reach
@user-kv1hm2wo6y
Жыл бұрын
@@user-cc3ef7qh1x maybe but nobody can't stop me now from saying "another one bites the dust" while landing one obviously because I'm having a good time. I'm a shooting star leaping through the sky like a tiger defying the laws of gravity =D
@user-gj8xb8uv4n
Жыл бұрын
@@user-cc3ef7qh1x a far reach for the game with queen references littered all across it? (Sol, slayer - TWO characters are referencing it, one of then being the main one). I mean the Slash button is a reference to a legendary rock figure, so you know.
@Simon_E32
Жыл бұрын
I must now boot marvel 2 and try to unfly combo.
@striderzer0
Жыл бұрын
Also for Yun all of his normals and specials get Super priority so its almost impossible to poke him out of stuff to get him off you
@sigurdtheblue
Жыл бұрын
Delete your comment. There are already enough of these.
@saki7505
Жыл бұрын
@@sigurdtheblue no
@afallentree_
Жыл бұрын
How old is lord knight?
@Bloodyshinta1
3 ай бұрын
man justin didn't really talk about how busted genejin having super priority is, all yun's normals get super priority and beat other normals in trades, combined with fastest normal in the game = you don't get to hit any fucking buttons and he has a command throw he can combo off of lmao.
@sabre_km4187
Жыл бұрын
I think toph would be a great guest for the series, he plays a bunch of fighting games and can comment on some smash stuff
@tangled55
Жыл бұрын
At 19:38 What in the heck game is that?! Someone tell me, please. I have to know! :D
@MusicoftheDamned
Жыл бұрын
Provided you're still looking for the answer, the game was _Granblue Fantasy: Versus_ which I have never played myself but "know" the summon in question is the character Lowain's most aggravating super.
@tangled55
Жыл бұрын
@@MusicoftheDamned thank you!
@michaelwhitmire9015
Жыл бұрын
Yall think storm is busted? in sf vs x-men wolverine can air grab you several times before reaching the ground,but it gets worse if paired with magneto he can do it from any spot.
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