"Overpriced and Disappointing" could be a name of last few years in PC industry.
@fredEVOIX
11 ай бұрын
yes I'm one of the few fools who bought a glacial motherboard and I wish I had heard Linus tips before I did, in an old video he said "never buy high end motherboards with less customer base they have little to no support and feedback, buy the mid range who have more bios updates" and mine burned...biggest waste of money of my pc life I'm now running a msi z790 tomahawk ddr4, the bios is trash but feature wise it's better than 800+$ motherboards minus the 5.0 nvme slot which you really don't want ! in exchange for it I have 3 real useable pcie slots (5.0 nvme means you only ever have 1 and most of the time running at half speed) and 4 4.0 nvme slot which is more than enough..I can also use 4 sticks of ram which ddr5 can't do..yeah blablabla 4 sticks works..no they don't no review is ever made with 4 no youtuber actually has 4 in computer they use...ddr5 is still a 2 stick technology or it destroys your stability and clocks so no one really does it, just check techtubers and reviews it's alway only with 2 sticks "weird" this video also has 2 sticks...as I said no one is really running 4 and the bad thing has builzoid explained is that the empty slots act as antennas and bring interferences into the system
@helthuismartin
11 ай бұрын
@@fredEVOIX Your right.
@MP_7
11 ай бұрын
Well said!
@Redstoneluchs
11 ай бұрын
Yes
@Mikehud1984
11 ай бұрын
Especially Gigabyte / Aorus products
@McSlunt
11 ай бұрын
For a board that price, I'd expect PCIe switches for dual x16 slots or a full uncut x16 slot with multiple PCIe 5 M.2 slots.
@lamikal2515
11 ай бұрын
What ? You expect to do some high-end stuff with a board wich is just marketed as "high-end" ? You want to connect more than 2 M.2 to it, to do some "nerdy stuff" ?? You should consider yourself lucky we don't make it explode this time ! Now shut up and give me your money ! - A Gigabyte higher-up, not probably
@dankmemes3153
11 ай бұрын
Gigabyte supports PCIe bifurcation on their PCIe 5.0 slot. So technically you can put 2 graphics cards on 1 slot.
@eduonkhl
11 ай бұрын
That's what should be expected as a bare minimum for 400-500 €/$ considering what you got with x79,x99 and x299 which where probably cancelled because why not ask the same amount of money for a regular Z board when people still buy that and you can force the rest to buy even more overpriced server boards because they have no other choice. Also profit margins are much more important than consumer satisfaction what are you thinking.
@brucepreston3927
11 ай бұрын
I don't think the CPU can do more than 16 lanes of PCIE 5.0...You can use them all on your GPU or you can split them with a 5.0 M.2...This motherboard is only expensive because of the cosmetics and the R&D it took to put all the connectors on the side of the board...Nobody should buy this board and I doubt they expect many people will
@popcorny007
11 ай бұрын
@@brucepreston3927 With PCIe switches you can do pretty much anything. They could turn Gen5x4 into Gen5x16 if they really wanted to. The point isn't to necessarily get more bandwidth as the CPU is the limitation, it's to be able to connect more devices transparently and have them recognised at whatever lane count.
@Lishtenbird
11 ай бұрын
I was expecting the "7-degree difference" to be tested by simply taping over the holes (because I assumed it's compared to not having them there), but if even pulling the air forcibly results in only 2 degrees... Yeah.
@laserspike
11 ай бұрын
Yup, I expected the same
@johnnygeorgopoulos4072
11 ай бұрын
Same here, Bauer would have to build it into a case/tower though, so I understand why he didn't. My old Z370 Aorus G7 board has a tiny little fan inside the IO that either blows over, or pulls air over the power stages, I've never heard it spinning (but it definitely is), so maybe they should've continued with that little trend instead.... I always liked telling people I have (had) TWENTY individual fans inside my tower (I actually did, double 240mm rads in push/pull for top and bottom of case, front 360mm in push/pull, rear 120, triple fan card, and then a rear compartment 90mm storage fan, but then I put the card into the loop and lost 3 fans lol) 🤣😅
@jasonsmall5602
11 ай бұрын
It needs to be in a case with positive pressure to properly test.
@AwesomeBlackDude
11 ай бұрын
I'm still wondering why he don't have any knowledge on Sound Blaster card. 😢
@chrisamon5762
11 ай бұрын
I think Gigabyte made this board just to make their Tachyon and Master look like good deals!!!!
@der8auer-en
11 ай бұрын
That kind of worked out 😂
@ak4sh455
11 ай бұрын
It is honestly ridiculous how the prices climbed up when it comes to MBs.. I built new PC during the RTX20x0 era and while this was the time when GPUs etc started becoming more expensive it was still very passable. I bought Aorus Master for intel 9th gen for like 230 Euros or sth like that at the time. Pretty much top tier board for less than 300... These days you get basic crap without dual bios, post code or heatsink with fins for the same price when it should cost sub 100...
@DLTX1007
11 ай бұрын
@@ak4sh455 Actually about the dual bios thing. I had gigabyte boards over the years with dual BIOS and they are a disaster! Never worked! When I needed it to, it was stuck. When I didn't need to, it would revert to the second bios which did not support the CPU properly and I had no clear way of figuring out which bios it actually booted to. Even with the switch...
@brucepreston3927
11 ай бұрын
@@ak4sh455It's crazy how much the prices have climbed! I also bought the Z390 Aorus Master right when it was released and I paid like $290 for it and it is an awesome looking fully featured board...I mainly bought it because of the dual bios switch, which has saved me a couple times!
@brucepreston3927
11 ай бұрын
@@DLTX1007The Gigabyte dual bios boards that had the automatic switching were terrible! But the Z390 Aours Master had a physical switch and it has worked great for me...There is an LED that lets you know which bios you booted on if you borked one and it booted to the other...There is also a switch that can keep it from reverting to the back up bios...
@MrAckers75
11 ай бұрын
Love how technical he is then calls the air duct an air thing lol legend
@der8auer-en
11 ай бұрын
thanks haha
@edinalewis4704
5 ай бұрын
“Cable hider thing”!!
@Oomlie
11 ай бұрын
The fact these boards are more expensive than HEDT boards used to be is insane
@gex581990
11 ай бұрын
Hedt at least gave us more memory channels. I mean good ddr3 in quad channel beat most ddr4 dual channel setups. I'd love to get something like Sapphire Lake and have 4 or 8 channels of ddr5, that bandwidth is absurd lol.
@Rroff2
11 ай бұрын
@@gex581990 Yeah - I miss there not being a decent substitute for the X79 V2 platform in this day and age.
@Tacet137
11 ай бұрын
Not insane, it's perfectly consistent with inflation rate. No need to thank me.
@MaddJakd
11 ай бұрын
@Tacet137 when other things haven't moved with the "inflation rate" not many are about to buy that here. Especially not this hard! There is definitely some "component supply/pricing" play coupled with PUSHGA! more than anything here. When other associated parts are going up in price, but get sold for the same if not less than last gen, we all need to see a novel's worth of charts to determine what and where at this point.
@AceStrife
11 ай бұрын
@@Tacet137 Inflation didn't go up 400% in the last 10 years.
@Chris.Brisson
11 ай бұрын
Imagine how much simpler life would be without a glass side panel on your case.
@quintit
11 ай бұрын
Lol true, my first pc had one but as I've upgraded I moved away from colors and got a black case w/o glass. Far less annoying to look at.
@PREDATEURLT
11 ай бұрын
@@anonym34566 pcs have power led for at least 35 years.
@eQui253
11 ай бұрын
I don't use one. Also no RGB.. the LEDs that came with the mb and the GPU are turned off. I'm still gaming and am happy, even I got -15% headshot rate in cs2 due to the missing RGB
@Deja117
11 ай бұрын
Fine I'll stick with Perspex then... No really though, if your motherboard has error checking on it I find it pretty useful for diagnosing stuff. I get your point goes beyond that... But it's an extremely rare use case where it's actually useful.
@-opus
11 ай бұрын
No need to imagine, I bought a case with solid sides, they are not exactly common these days though.
@ArtyomExplainsEng
11 ай бұрын
I have made a review of an Z790 Elite X and made extended ram overlocking tests, and making a review of a Pro X and I could only get to 7600 Mhz manual overlock with 2x16 GB, the entire X lineup (including Xtreme and Master) is identical in terms of memory performance. They are better than previous non X boards in terms of memory, but only 400-600 mhz better. Do not expect anything more than 7200-7400 xmp, maybe 7600 xmp if you have 2x24 gb. Marketed 8266 - manual overlock with 2x24 with best cpu memory controller possible. People need to stop buying these stupid fast 7800+ memory kits and expect them to work. You need and APEX or Tachyon for those.
@dyamorph50
11 ай бұрын
😎😎
@reilshat
11 ай бұрын
ye
@wasntmax6689
11 ай бұрын
Bold boy was right
@waifuhunter9709
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this
@peterberglund5695
7 ай бұрын
Check out Framechasers review of Z790 X AX.
@M00NM0NEY
11 ай бұрын
Even Sheik is exhausted by the review outcome
@keithgoh123
11 ай бұрын
It's a $1300 board, I'd expect a proper fully coloured manual
@lamikal2515
11 ай бұрын
But "think about polar bears !!!1!1!1!1!1!1!!!"
@AaronHendu
11 ай бұрын
The manual should be rgb and made from magnesium at this price.
@v5k456jh3
11 ай бұрын
but muh environment
@twiggsherman3641
11 ай бұрын
It's definitely about saving the environment, and not saving a bunch of money in publishing costs.
@ms3862
11 ай бұрын
You're lucky it's not a digital manual lmao won't someone think of the trees
@GreenFuture001
11 ай бұрын
Competely agree on the disappointment with Gigabyte software. It takes away massively from the "perfection enjoyment" of my primary build (an X570, not this board, but still). Thank you, as always for your honesty and not talking down to your audience. Cheers
@home541_
11 ай бұрын
I have an elite ax z790 and I’m constantly contemplating getting rid of it. Over clocking was a nightmare. I updated bios and lost oc. Now I can’t be fucked to go through all that again
@fridaycaliforniaa236
9 ай бұрын
105 A stages x 22 stages ? Holy crap, this gives 2 310 Amperes ! with a tension of 1,25 Volts, that would give 2 887,5 Watts ! I think you could light a whole house with those VRMs !
@iliqiliev
11 ай бұрын
Buying a motherboard for the price of a cheap car and still getting that Norton bullshit is a spit in the face
@konstantinNeo
11 ай бұрын
Its like paying 1300 for the priviledge of getting r@ped with the unavoidable perk of getting a dirty sanchez.
@nickcifarelli8887
11 ай бұрын
huge respect to you for calling Bullshit when you see it. You have earned a lot of trust over the years because you say it as it is. Appreciate all you do for us mere mortals.
@WELSHYTECH
11 ай бұрын
I miss the days of a Motherboard costing £250/£300 being high end and now you don't even get all the features at that price point which is just sad
@sausagefingers714
11 ай бұрын
someone remembers! i miss the old days. i remember when £300-350 was a high price for a new high end GPU. some of these high priced mobo's are a joke too.. smothered in RGB with a bunch of cheaply made plastic childish gimmicks thrown onto it to appeal to gamers.
@WELSHYTECH
11 ай бұрын
@@sausagefingers714 i agree i remember them also and i remember GPUs looking better and motherboards used to have awesome themes
@MaddJakd
11 ай бұрын
This. My X79 mobo (about to get demoted) was all of $300 back then. Still has way more than most of thes "high end" consumer motherboards. It's seriously criminal. Hell, Threadripper 1 motherboards are going 250 and trouncing that even, though there it makes sense. After 2020 scarcity, they seem to think it's okay to just charge through the roof for something 1/4 as capable.
@WELSHYTECH
11 ай бұрын
@@MaddJakd I know I agree
@BodethIII
10 ай бұрын
asrock x670e pg lightning for $230 exist, or pro rs. sub $275 and has 5 nvme slots no disable. it's the "high end" market that's not high end anymore as much as it's meant to sell to idiot whales. oh and 4 NVME slots z690s/z790s go sub $190 a lot.
@ahayesm
11 ай бұрын
The board has to be using the iGPU to mirror the dGPU in order for Thunderbolt to actually work which means a simple DP-ALT to DP adapter should work if you want to use the iGPU for an actual display.
@axlfrhalo
11 ай бұрын
I am truly blown away by this outcome, who could have guessed paying 1300$ for a motherboard could end up as ill advised use of your money? Truly life changing revelations.
@oussama7132
11 ай бұрын
I almost thought it was a budget motherboard
@MidWitPride
11 ай бұрын
These "extreme" consumer boards make absolutely no sense to anyone. Even if the manufacturers wanted to add bunch of cool features to it, none of the compatible hardware can utilize any of it. Even if it had alien technology room temperature superconductors in it, it still wouldn't make your PCIe 4.0 GPU or AM5/1700 socket CPU run any better, or give it more PCIe lanes.
@johnramsey8712
11 ай бұрын
There have always been boards built for the small percentage of PC builders that want to push the bleeding edge and run overclocks etc etc. Always been a niche product and over the years Gigabyte have built some exceptionally high end boards for those that want to push the limits. Sadly this board simply seems more like a money grab based on the reputation of past offerings.
@1sonyzz
11 ай бұрын
consumers driven corps to increase mobo prices buy buying whatever corp throws at consumers, corps throw in a 1000usd mobo - consumers buy it anyway, corps get a mindset of charging whatever they want for mobo's because of us the consumers allowing it to happen... if no consumers buy 1000usd mobo's there will be no 1000usd mobo's because - no one buys them, if they exist means someone is buying them allowing corps to charge whatever they want... blame people for allowing it not corps for running with it lol
@Thefuror38500
11 ай бұрын
@@johnramsey8712 Yeah, but I mean, this isn't even a board to get cutting edge performances. An Apex or Tachyon would be what you want for that. This one is... pointless ? Or to be put in the same category as a pretty handbag from luxury brand : a way to burn money and show to have money to burn. No practical use
@fetzie23
11 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure I’ve had 200 euro motherboards coming with more toys and accessories than that 😢
@lamikal2515
11 ай бұрын
Not modern boards (AM5/LGA18xx) for sure. For 200, you could already consider yourself lucky if one of those have a PCB not made of wood.
@lemagreengreen
11 ай бұрын
Truth is people don't even want accessories since you don't need them. It's funny how a high end board can only have two expansion slots for us oldheads but lets be real - you've no reason to plug anything other than GPUs in, no need for accessories or options. SATA etc? not needed, nobody wants it either. PC's have never been simpler yet everything just gets more expensive. They make up the lack of everything by covering it all in plastic panels and gaudy RGB lights.
@lucasrem
11 ай бұрын
Less toys is faster. Threadripper, play a game ??????????
@Brabant076
11 ай бұрын
Lissen, never change the intro with the cat on display! I love ittttt 🐱
@qT_p13
11 ай бұрын
I love motherboards that come with real time raytracing. Very shine, much reflection. That quick release on the top pcie slot, positioned directly under my massive gpu though.
@omegatotal
11 ай бұрын
Couple of notes, 1. You have display output via the USB-C / TB4 ports for onboard/iGPU video 2.a. Most of the USB-A ports are using a Realtek USB HUB 2.b. Most of the internal USB 3.x ports are on hubs, likely also Realtek... 3.a. The 2.5GB eth port is Intel 226v (good) 3.b. The 10GB port is AQC107 multi-gig capable (meh Gen3 PCI-E, the newer AQC113CS supports Gen4, but these chipsets sometimes have disconnect issues unless you disable a lot of features) 4.a. Only 1 M.2 slot supports SATA, they all support x2, or x4 lane PCI-E 4.b. Only 1 M.2 slot appears to be dedicated 4 lane and not shared, (the one mentioned in the video below the top PCI-E slot) 4.c. All other M.2 slots (excluding the Gen5 above top PCI-E and Gen4 dedicated immediately below top PCI-E slot) share the total bandwidth of the Z790 chipset, which includes the 2.5GB nic, 10GB NIC, Thunderbolt ports, WiFi, lower PCI-E x16(x4 lane), etc. This is essentially 8 lanes of PCI-E Gen 4 bandwidth (x8 DMI 4.0) 5. The TB4 ports effectively share PCI-E lanes with some of the Gen 4 M.2 slots(lowest 3) and the lower PCI-E x16 slot (x4 lane slot), lan/wifi,etc. see below Gigabyte does not define what is switched with what other than the top PCI-E slot in their manual. Z790 should have as many as 28 lanes available (20x Gen4, 8x Gen3) The lowest 3x M.2 slots running off the z790 chipset are all using x4 Lanes of Gen4 (x12 of 20 available lanes from the z790) The Gigabyte manual lists only the devices hanging off the Gen3 bus, with a total of 12x lanes potentially used of x8 available, wifi (x1 lane), 2.5Gb LAN (x1 lane), 10Gb lan (x2 lanes), TB4 controller (x4 lanes) and the lower PCI-E slot (x4 lanes) So if you want to use TB4, you might have to leave the lower PCI-E slot vacant? bad lane mappings on gigabytes part (some of these devices could have hung off the Gen4 lanes instead of Gen3 lanes This board seems WAY overpriced for some possible issues it brings with USB hubs and possibly misguided PCI-E lane utilization
@chrisdejonge611
11 ай бұрын
$300 board + $1000 plastic. That's some expensive plastic! If you want a screen, just get an Asrock board, these integrate eDP (laptop internal displayport) and you can get many size/dimensions/resolutions screens for this (and for cheap), and then it just acts as a display hooked up to the iGPU, so you can display anything you like independent from any manufacturer software. There are some nice casemods with this.
@TigonIII
11 ай бұрын
The plastic comes with a hidden climate tax on it, that's why it's so expensive. /sarcasm
@U_slash
29 күн бұрын
this is one of the best reviews I've seen. Professional and objective. Congrats!
@mufeez666
11 ай бұрын
i was on the fence getting this board, thanks you saved me a lot of money
@ShrikeCult
11 ай бұрын
I have the Xtreme without the X and i paid 1100 euro and i am running from one problem to another - its beyond anything i have come across in the past 25 years of being an enthusiast
@theplaintech
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for this review. I had seriously considered this board. After seeing your review, I would NEVER consider it. The biggest issue was the nvme drives along with other downsides. I am very satisfied with the build I chose: ASRock Z790 PG-ITX/TB4 Intel LGA1700 Mini-ITX Mainboard ($334.99) in a Fractal Torrent Nano with a 13900K and 8tb Samsung 990 Pro. The entire build is really tight, but works really well. There are only 2 memory slots, which makes better sense given the channels provided. Your in depth reviews are very much appreciated and have made a significant difference for me.
@Da_Mech666
8 ай бұрын
do you use gen 5 ssd or no? is there any difference in fps or work,because of gpu and ssd m2 line sharing?
@theplaintech
8 ай бұрын
@@Da_Mech666 The ASrock only supports gen 4 ssd. I use Samsung 990 Pro, 3 drives total 8tb. There is no effect (no line sharing) because it is pcie nvme with no ssd. The unit is production grade and has all the power of a full size desktop. FYI: If you are planning a similar build, it looks like the parts and pieces are no longer available -- not the board and not the Fractal Torrent Nano case.
@Da_Mech666
8 ай бұрын
@@theplaintech thanx for the reply
@katzicael
11 ай бұрын
I got one of the X570X Pro AX boards and gott im himmel it was baaaaaaad, and so is the software. The fans would go Crazy after a reboot.
@Punisher9419
11 ай бұрын
Motherboards are so expensive these days, even the lower end options are so expensive now. Gone are the days you could get a good boad for £60. I like the more industrial look anyway, just all black is preferable like my old MSI X99 SLI Plus motherboard. I also like Crucial memory, the cheap shit that's just green.
@Reaper19851
11 ай бұрын
Just noticed your stargate address tattoo. Thats awesome
@mysticknight6724
11 ай бұрын
0:07 I see you have a helper kitty, always ready to give a helping paw lol
@FluxMarsh333
11 ай бұрын
I wonder how the screen will hold up with that decent looking VRM heatsink dumping heat into its rear. Those vent holes look like a necessity.
@theSFCchannel
11 ай бұрын
AGREED
@christianrobloxserver7282
11 ай бұрын
Fortunately, it will be just fine. At around an 8th of an inch, the temperature of a heat sink with heat fins wouldn't do much to a screen at all. And that's at static air pressure. Add a little air flow and it's fine.
@tim3172
11 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's a great point. We haven't studied LCD technology for over 30 years and know exactly what it can handle. It's not like we design outside LCD panels which bake in the sun all day for years and years in WAY hotter temperatures, or anything. I'm sure nobody stopped to consider whether a component of the board they engineered could withstand a minor amount of heat under it. Thank goodness we have you.
@Erowens98
11 ай бұрын
@@tim3172The bean counters have engineers ignoring issues all the time. Im not saying the LCD won't last, im sure it will. But don't assume these companies actually account for longevity. You never know when an exec said "thats too expensive, just blame the customer so we don't have to honor the warranty"
@Ghrifter
11 ай бұрын
Nowadays there's a real issue in high-end pricing in IT. They keep charging premium prices for averages MB. With that kind of price/quality ratio we pay more for the marketing staff (lies) than for the product itself. What they don't know (or don't care about) is a flagship product tells a lot about how a company see his consumers. If a companie neglect or scam premium consumers, they'll do the same or worse for average consumers. Thanks for your review, I'm grateful there are people to show us what really looks like those flagships
@my-yt-inputs2580
11 ай бұрын
There are "some" advantages to Gigabyte motherboards as well as disadvantages. The one thing I do not like is the way they treat Bios updates. Too many times they put out a Beta bios(the ones followed by a letter designation like F4a vs simply F4) and those beta bios's seem to last forever until they release a final "official" bios. At least that is my experience with AMD motherboards.
@TechieSunset
10 ай бұрын
This will probably be the 100th comment about this, but your cat is cute af. Video is solid too (as usual).
@bdhale34
11 ай бұрын
That small vent hole claim seems to be just something done to add to the feature set for the sake of having extra things on it. There's not much of a chance the average user will ever verify the claim, or that they will dispute it either.
@69Heroic
11 ай бұрын
Finally someone that reviewed this board with detail
@sinephase
11 ай бұрын
My "AORUS elite" x570 was a big disappointment as well, barely any fan headers which I didn't even imagine could be a thing on something supposed to be "elite" LOL
@fredEVOIX
11 ай бұрын
I bought the asus X570 crosshair viii dark hero, it was very plastic for the price but feature and technological design wise it was one of the best motherboards sold tons of usbs up to 8 satas 3 nvme slots useable pcie slots that don't half your gpu bandwith (when manual says your slot goes 8x it means it will always hald your gpu bandwith whatever it was you get half or 4.0 or half of 3.0 depending on your gpu) the only good current intel motherboard is actually ddr4 the z790 tomahawk from msi which is pretty much the x570 dark hero with less rear usb-a and a worse bios than asus
@B1u35ky
11 ай бұрын
Use fan controllers, what I did
@sinephase
11 ай бұрын
@@B1u35ky yeah but the thing is my cheaper ASUS board had a fan header on the bottom so I didn't need it. Only reason I got this one was because it was in a bundle with a 3080 when they were hard to get
@profesercreeper
11 ай бұрын
Loved my x570 aorus master, was the only board that fit the connectivity I wanted and worked great. Had 2 generations of CPUs on that board.
@sinephase
11 ай бұрын
@@profesercreeper I guess elite doesn't mean elite then, I should've gone with the master LOL
@richardgarrett2792
11 ай бұрын
A thought that occurred starting from the opening shot. 'Can I die and come back as your cat?' Sheik looks perfectly comfortable, as in perfect. Or purr fect.
@acidcharon
11 ай бұрын
This, is one of the best tech channels and Its a true mystery why it has so few subscribers. On the board... that board should cost at the very most 700bucks, considering the plastic on it, the useless screen and the BS promises. These days all vendors they just pull a price-tag out of the bottom.
@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt
11 ай бұрын
Hey Roman, hope you are well. Do you have any updates on how your AM5 IHS/waterblock is coming along and if you will ever sell them? I hope it's ready for (and compatible with) Zen 5 as I'd love to get one. Thanks 🙂
@samuelrodgers2742
11 ай бұрын
It will be compatible with Zen 5 because it uses the same AM5 socket and will have the same IHS
@Razors378
11 ай бұрын
Damn the cats fur coat is gonna become static and kill that test board
@reallycome1
6 ай бұрын
You just saved me £500. I added this to my shopping cart and was debating between this and the MASTER-X. Definitely going back to Master-X! No need for a display looks like you pay £500 extra for a non-operational feature. You are a legend, Thank YOU!
@thealien_ali3382
5 ай бұрын
If you really want a screen on Ur mobo then pay the extra £500 but if you don't give a crap about the screen the yes the master X is a way better purchase
@chairs-dimension
11 ай бұрын
Is there any motherboard over $4-500 which is not overpriced?
@Beezzzzy_
11 ай бұрын
I got the Master X, decided to go with 64Gb (2x32gb) 6800 speeds and it works with no stability issues on the 14900k
@kaanaslan_tr
10 ай бұрын
Are you happy with your board? Do you also have issues with Gigabyte software?
@dreamcat4
11 ай бұрын
i think the product i really want to see is your own individual take on the framework 16 laptop. (which unfortunately... does not have nvvidia gpu option). but just in all other respects from the product design. and how much further it can be taken. the reason i request this product review: its because gaming laptops are actually pretty notorious for dying with dead gpu (or cpu, whatever else). and once broken they cannot be fixed in any economical or serviceable fashion. and anyhow this laptop also has other nice customization features, and other types of servicing or expansion / component replacement.
@MrTefe
10 ай бұрын
That motherboard looks crazy good!
@_Chrollo__
11 ай бұрын
I’ve been using gygabite motherboards for years now and I’m currently using the Z690 Aorus elite , the hardware has always been top quality but the problem is the software , for example there are several bios updates and quick ones that Gygabite does and kudos to them, but the control center, RGB fusion ( even for the Graphics cards) always has issues and is absolutely terrible compared to other manufacturers I have no doubt that if Gygabite invest in better software development they would achieve much better confidence from consumers
@elita2cents
11 ай бұрын
Same here. My latest boars are 2x the Z690 Aorus-Pro rev. 1.1 and rev. 1.2, whatever the difference(s) is/are. This one got a new beta-BIOS just last week, but I only found it today. I couldn't see any changes they made. As system-builder both private and commercial, I usually suggest leaving the Gigabyte software, where it was the day before. For the RGB and a-RGB headers, you can use openRGB, which does pretty well, only it doesn't detect my RAM-RGB lights. At least, those RGB lights on my latest memory doesn't seem to need much power anyway, so I can leave it on and not be afraid. Everything else, I recommend setting up the hardware things in the BIOS, so
@brucepreston3927
11 ай бұрын
I don't understand how a company the size of Gigabyte has such terrible software...I refuse to install it on my PC again! It uses a ridiculous amount of resources when it's running and it doesn't even work half the time...I had an X470 gaming 7 board that had RGB fusion built into the bios and it worked great but every Aorus board i've had since then you've had to download that crappy software...It really sucks, because I like everything about the Aorus boards except their software...
@MichelBertrand
11 ай бұрын
I built a new system for the first time in over 10 years last Christmas with a z790 Aorus Master, 13700k and 32GB of g.skill 6400. Not having built a system in such a long time, I naively thought that I could buy 2 16GB dimms of memory, since they were really expensive when I bought them in december 2022, and then later this year I could buy another 32GB kit and increase my total memory to 64GB. I later found out that there is no way to guarantee that having 4 dimms at 6400mts will even run. *THAT*, to me, is a huge flaw in all the advertising we see from all these companies, selling 4 dimm boards and advertising speeds up to 8000mts, when filling all 4 dimms will probably not work, unless you lower the speed of your memory down and then end up not using the speeds you paid for.
@brandonupchurch7628
11 ай бұрын
I remember when I thought a the highest end HEDT boards being like $700 was expensive during the X58 era, but $1300 for a mainstream desktop platform, even if it is the highest end version, just sound absolutely ridiculous.
@hirdominator
11 ай бұрын
It did say up to 7degrees in certain circumstances. Just wish they would share what those circumstances were. Anyways this is a halo product not meant for a majority of the community so the forum post for everything that will go wrong for it might actually get a Gigabyte tech to respond.
@deagt3388
11 ай бұрын
The price without that first digit is great! ;-)
@cLickphotographySEA
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for your honest reviews! I wish these BIG companies would not lie as much to the consumers as they do now!
@alexanderm2702
11 ай бұрын
If you're doing custom watercooling and you want to add an extra NVME drive you need to disassemble the whole thing... They could have cut-outs for each NVME drive where you cover it with a copper/aluminum block, ideally with a heatpipe to take the heat to a finstack at the front. Or at a minimum, don't cover it in plastic. On the VRM most of the finstacks are blocked by plastic, that's a waste.
@danmar007
11 ай бұрын
No wonder the tech industry loves gamers so much. :-) It IS a great idea.
@chincemagnet
11 ай бұрын
😆 my z790 Aorus Master was disappointing for $500. It should be a $300 motherboard imo. The absurdly priced boards like the Xtreme are ridiculous, shouldn’t even exist.
@TheStonedSpidR
11 ай бұрын
this video has been more informative then almost all the videos ive seen all year. oh and im sure the 7 degree difference is the amount of heat the lcd display and i/o adds to the overall system temp and by having those holes directly under the lcd display helps to rid the system of most of the heat emitted by the display and i/o
@seeingblind2
11 ай бұрын
Ah the *RENT* motherboard 😅
@Mogalize
11 ай бұрын
I got the Aorus X Wifi7 and its been good with the exception of no wifi or BT driver support in windows 10. My G.Skill 7800 cl36 kit wont run at XMP, but runs great at 7600 CL38... Proc is a 14700k.
@mcod99
11 ай бұрын
This board looks absolutely gorgeous, but holy shit, 1300??
@01Gamemaster10
11 ай бұрын
conclusion: A very expensive motherboard doesn`t make your cpu faster :P
@des7royerz
11 ай бұрын
I think Roman should start his own motherboard vendor, then we could be less disappointed 👍🏼
@mangatom192
11 ай бұрын
This is what I've been wondering in relation to the (over)pricing of the current mobos. With AMD, some said that the manufacturers want to get as much money as possible since AM5 supposedly has a long platform life. That I can slightly understand. However, what's up with Intel's case. This is basically the eol of the socket/platform. So what's the reason or excuse for this one?
@TigonIII
11 ай бұрын
I would guess it's greed mostly, but it might also be sort of like with the graphics cards, where AMD tries to price their cards towards Nvidia. So if the Intel board were to be cheaper than the AMD board, and as you said they wanted to price the AMD boards higher, because people would be using them for longer, then some/many users would feel like they were taken advantage of, because there wouldn't be so much difference between the two boards (Intel and AMD), but one would be significantly more expensive only due to the kind of CPU socket.
@Phos9
11 ай бұрын
To test their claim regarding the tiny holes, just test once normally and then put tape over them and see if the temperature increases
@gareth4348
11 ай бұрын
The screen not being adjustable is INSANE
@stevesloan6775
11 ай бұрын
Please never forget everything is to do with timing. That is the super power everything has.
@TheBod76
11 ай бұрын
Seriously, what kind of feature could a mainboard have that justifies a $1300 price tag? I can't think of anything.
@PaulFCB1899
11 ай бұрын
The problem with the lanes is that when Gigabyte launched their mobos with Z690 they locked the 5.0 to the PCI Express card leaving the main CPU lane M.2 on 4.0, which isn't a terrible problem but the way things go, it should've been PCI Express 4.0 on the card and 5.0 on the M.2, because an year later GPU's new gen were still on 4.0 16x and M.2 had some limited 5.0 launches, of course, speeds aren't maxed on 5.0 yet as those SSD's hardly beat the fastest 4.0 just like the first 4.0's were only a bit faster than 3.0 in the first year or so. So for Z790 they launched 5.0 + 5.0 but it limits the GPU to 8x 5.0 which is equal to 16x 4.0 which is how much a 4090 needs anyway, until a 5090 or 6090 comes out I think there's no reason to not use the top M.2. slot (and even afterwards, we all know that GPU's don't eat all the speed from the PCI anyway). It's only disturbing because they ain't telling you the whole story as you'd want to, but in general we should ask Intel and AMD for more lanes if anything!
@bryantallen703
11 ай бұрын
Still rocking the z370 Aorus Gaming 7 with a 5.3GHz delided 8700K and 3GHz 6900XT TOXIC EE. LG OLED has been great.
@BrunodeSouzaLino
8 ай бұрын
For that price, I'd expect dual 10GbE ports. 2.5GbE goes along with 5GbE as being a non-standard format that's not supported anywhere outside its own ecosystem and certainly not in enterprise applications, where you either use 1GbE or 10GbE.
@LuckyTiger-hk1pw
11 ай бұрын
I'm more interested on that sleeping fluffy cat. 👍
@sabishiihito
11 ай бұрын
Micro Center in the US has this for $999. Still expensive but quite a bit less than $1300.
@falcie7743
11 ай бұрын
The USB DAC is a good thing. Everyone hates the onboard audio, because it's a coin toss if it works at all and it's rather subpar quality.
@Arnianor
11 ай бұрын
That conclusion is definitely the kind of AD you want for your product xD
@stephenfoster4757
11 ай бұрын
For that price I want an RGB manual, motherboard shaped like a Ferrari and no marketing BS.
@flepgg
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for being real and calling out these companies BS man. More people should do this so maybe one day we have a better market
@B1u35ky
11 ай бұрын
My Aorus elite ax was very easy to setup xmp for 6400mhz cl32 g skill. No issues either
@alpenfoxvideo7255
11 ай бұрын
ad to the tests: idle on the desktop for 3 hours. if the memory is barely stable usually the pc restarts randomly when on the lowest load.
@outlet6989
11 ай бұрын
There are two famous words that lawyers love to see in any documentation. The words are Up to. At 28:60, we see good examples of this. DDR5 Overclocking "Up to" 8266 MT/s and "Up to" 7C lower I/O ports temperature. PC builders who like to go 'whole hog' on their build should place cost labels on their components to show others how much their PC costs.
@2009numan
11 ай бұрын
why didn't you test the motherboard with 4 memory dimms ?
@AndreiHristow
6 ай бұрын
The prices are sky high and the quality wipes the floor.
@digitaljack3t
10 ай бұрын
"So much wasted potential..." You couldn't have said it better. Thank you for the review!
@justatim8143
9 ай бұрын
With the I/O Holes in the back try taping the hole shut and test it that way then without the tape. Wi Fi 7 chip only costs $43 dollars new.
@brianzjones
11 ай бұрын
Thumbs up for the temp-percent analysis. -bZj
@ChrisGR93_TxS
11 ай бұрын
1dimm per channel is a must on ddr5, i don't know why they going 4 on high end motherboards.
@mark-ze4en
10 ай бұрын
the entire gaming consumership is being bamboozled with the promise of high overclocking when the CPU obviously are not designed for that level of performance. There should be some consumer protection for this lack of transparency in component compatibility and function.
@cacheman
11 ай бұрын
12:20 The _best_ solution would be if instead of five m.2 slots, there were 5 full-length full-speed PCIe slots, and anyone wanting a huge amount of m.2 could use riser cards. The trend of wasting all board space and PCIe connectivity on m.2 slots is part of the "enshittification" of the PC platform.
@ssandorr
11 ай бұрын
To be honest. First place: I dont have the money for this. BUT! For the price, it doesnt perform that well in my opinion. I have an x570 unify board, and performance-wise, its still rock solid. With this pricetag, someone can build a secondhand market PC, which is ridiculous.. It looks clean, awesome, i love the design, i love every part of it. But for this price, i would like to see something EXTRA good, not just a regular Z board, with some plates, to hide the cables... :D Lianli strimer cable users will love the 90degree 24pin.. :D And the best part is, when you picked up the user manual.. Bro XD Gigabyte saving the earth, by removing 50pages, but still packaging every cable in different bags, which is plastic :D blew my mind
@TheHalo14aus
11 ай бұрын
Good point about lack of environmental awareness when they wrap every single item in small plastic bags.
@iceManSwag
9 ай бұрын
I got the Gigabyte Z690 AORUS ULTRA paired it with 12700KF, G.Skill DDR5 F5-6000J3636F32GX2-TZ5RK 64GB (2x32GB), Palit 4080 RTX 16Gb GameRock OC, Arctic AIO 420mm etc. Anyway I cant say Im really fond of the Gigabyte software. Also I had to install Windows 11 over Windows 10 my sound improved & Windows 11 know what to do with those E cores. Gigabyte has 13 BIOS versions to choose from. Im using F27. F28 is in BETA stage . XMP did not BOOT Im going to fine tune it manually. I manage to boot it at 5000Mhz but I paid for 6000Mhz I know its a lottery. Any way Im going to tinker with the BIOS settings. In general I cant say Im satisfied with Gigabyte board. Next time Im building a new rig I will look at ASUS, EVGA boards. If you look at top 3DMark Port Royal benchmark list you will see that world records are all usually on ASUS & EVGA boards. You will find couple of boards from MSI & Gigabyte in those lists but very little.
@teddym2808
7 ай бұрын
This video drove me crazy. You were talking about the board being designed out of the gate with Intel power limits in mind, and you were doing all these stress tests and all I wanted to see, just once, what the frequency of the P cores was when power limited to 220w, and you just wouldn't scroll up to show it. No matter what Cinebench test is done, please note for future if you can, that when HW info is displayed, we should *always* be shown clock speed at some point. It's important.
@River_Miles
11 ай бұрын
You need to install Norton for access to change the LCD screen settings.
@LEMON48
4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@vincei4252
11 ай бұрын
One of the worst motherboard purchases I ever made was an $800 MSI threadripper. It was garbage. After not being used for a while 1/2 the memory stopped working which seems to have been the power delivery failing and killing 64G of memory. Went to the MSI forum and see someone else complaining about exactly the same thing with zero answers. Will never ever buy another MSI board.
@Anankin12
11 ай бұрын
WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THAT GIANT ORANGE FLUFFY MENACE SLEEPING ON THE WORK TABLE
@Alex-Storm
11 ай бұрын
"okay, let's install whatever they want me to install... wait. no! Nein! NEIN! SCHEISE!" :D lmao :D
@blackIce504
11 ай бұрын
the German and english is a unicode thing the settings are under language and select non-unicode language as English or if you want all German select German it will change this so you only get the one language on UI.
@omegatotal
11 ай бұрын
If I ever acquired this board, I would be removing the display and controller from the location it is, and bringing it closer to the glass side panel, IF Gigabyte ever allowed customization of it. If the USB DAC is not junk, I would likely use it with my laptop instead of the desktop... I would likely disable the built in 10GB nic and put in a PCI-E Intel 10Gb nic using an M.2 adapter board and modified rear bracket so that I don't affect my ability to use TB4 ports.
@JonneBackhaus
11 ай бұрын
The Hetzner server-farm in Finland is not in Helsinki but in Tuusula.
@FARBerserker
11 ай бұрын
Why is there so little in terms of pci-e lanes nowadays? my old X79 hast 7 x16 slots that at the most will go down to 7x8 if i were to populate them all at once . .
@quigonkenny
4 ай бұрын
I think this is one of those situations where Gigabyte (not that they're the only ones who do this) is putting a lot of bells and whistles (and a little snake oil, naturally) in order to bring in customers with more money than knowledge. This is aimed toward the same kind of customer who chooses who to do custom work on his car based on whether they have a show on the Discovery Channel or not. Most of these boards will end up in a Y70 Touch or O11 Dynamic clone with as much hardline tubing and as many rainbow-puke spewing fans as is physically possible, while their blinged out 4090 sits 3mm from the tempered glass side panel.
@VividMac101
11 ай бұрын
In Canada, the MSI Z790 Godlike is the most expensive Z790 motherboard with the Gigabyte Z790 Xtreme X in second. The MSI Godlike is either $1,579 (CAD) or $1,679 and for the Gigabyte Xtreme X, the prices are either $1,349, $1,399 and $1,499 depending on the retailer which is bizarre. Either way the prices of these higher end boards are absolutely ridiculous. The ASUS Z790 Dark Hero for example is $949 CAD and does not even have a 10GbE port, it only has a 2.5GbE port which is inexcusable for the price. It does have 2 Thunderbolt 4 ports though. For comparison, the ASUS Z790 ProArt has 10GbE and 2.5GbE ports as well as 2x TB4 ports for $600 CAD.
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