Really nice comparison, Caleb. I noticed the color differences in the GH5S skin tones as well. Nice improvement! No more jaundice!
@armacanqui
6 жыл бұрын
I've been following your channel since the beginning of Fall 2017 and I LOVE how much detail you put into your videos when it comes to comparisons/technical details that are not just useful, but RELEVANT to anyone who's in/trying to get into film-making!
@dslrvideoshooter
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very kind words Baila! So glad you're digging the content!
@Dhanul
6 жыл бұрын
That audio quality is godly.
@nicklong7442
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah dude, Caleb's the best.
@dslrvideoshooter
6 жыл бұрын
Haha! Thanks. Helps when you can get right up on the microphone!
@GDBOYFilms
6 жыл бұрын
DSLR Video Shooter which one is this video using btw?
@florianmuller6530
6 жыл бұрын
Which microphone are you using in this video?
@DarkPa1adin
6 жыл бұрын
is it also due to your treated room?
@perezamigos
4 жыл бұрын
2 years later and still great info, thanks
@Macsnapsmedia
6 жыл бұрын
This makes me incredibly excited! I have my brand new GH5s on the way and knowing how accurate your videos are compared to a lot of the watered down opinion pieces that have been popping up, its great to see the raw data that takes all the questions out of it. THANK YOU!
@henryzhang9915
6 жыл бұрын
Ordered 5s last week, had viewed some comparisons, no hesitation at all. The improvements are very tempting.
@BlackWarriorLures
6 жыл бұрын
We should call it Super 43.
@michealpersaud6718
3 ай бұрын
Omg, reading this comment in 2024, this is hilarious! 😂 I literally laughed for like 5 minutes lol
@BlackWarriorLures
3 ай бұрын
@@michealpersaud6718 hehe!
@tonylouisvisionvideography3469
6 жыл бұрын
Just purchased a GH5s Can't wait to test it out
@DenizAlexanderBora
6 жыл бұрын
Hey Caleb, if the pictures of the field of view comparison at 5:00 are correct than the Sony a6500 (4th place) and GH5 with Speedbooster (5th place) must change places. I checked your pictures and even zoomed in on a screenshot. There is definetly a wider field of view on the GH5 with speedbooster picture. Compare the 4 squares on the grey card and you can see it. Still a very good informative video!
@makatron
6 жыл бұрын
So subtle, yet so important to have the skin tones in the right hue
@SonofaFritzFilms
6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man! I was dead set on purchasing the GH5 for some time, but I thought I noticed those slight color differences that you proved. The GH5S really does look better. I'd be interested in seeing a comparison of the color science and tests between the A7III when that's released and the GH5S. I'm more comfortable using Panasonic and I've heard grading S Log footage from Sony can be a headache, so I'm curious if it's gotten any better and worth the switch.
@1BigBucks1
6 жыл бұрын
A very Dave Dugdale-style video and I say that as a compliment.
@JamesJacksonFilmz
6 жыл бұрын
Great Video man. Yeah the crop reduction is a great addition. I have the XL speed booster version (.64x you were referring to) and if my math is correct, the Crop on the GH5s is now a 1.15x crop. It would be interesting to see the a6500 with it's speedbooster compared to the XL version on the GH5s to see which one comes closer to the full frame look. I said it in my video review of the GH5s. This camera is a game changer for Micro 4/3rds and I believe will really reshape alot of peoples prejudices regarding micro 4/3rds system. Also with the low light capability, it makes lenses like the Olympus 12-100mm f4, which I wouldn't consider before on previous M43 cameras, now as a serious versatile option for event work. I also noticed the color science difference. It's very similar to canon's color science. I'm holding no regrets on my GH5s purchase.
@seecraig
6 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a color and dynamic range comparison between the GH5S and the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera. Given the BMD hasn't given any indication of updating the BMPCC, it's possible that one might "graduate" to the GH5S if the "color science" and the dynamic range are close. Although there's been Pocket vs GH5 comparisons that's not really competitive. No one has done a BMPCC to GH5S comparison so you'd be the first.
@TechnoBabble
6 жыл бұрын
In terms of the actual performance of the sensor and the colours the BMPCC is just better, if you can deal with the lower resolution and short battery life. It really is meant to be a pocket cinema camera, unlike the GH5 which needs to still be good at stills and also have more versatility WITHOUT a bunch of accessories.
@seecraig
6 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind the GH5S is a very different beast than the GH5. As per Caleb's presentation the GH5S seems to be a cinema camera. Given the low pixel count it's not really focused on stills and the lack of IBIS most certainly means it needs accessories for stability.
@JoeBSanchezFilms
6 жыл бұрын
By the end of the day they are just tools. You can apply fixes that need to be done in post anyway. Thank you for taking the time and effort to make this video. Helps me want to fix my color and framing more on my gh5.
@TechnoBabble
6 жыл бұрын
The less you have to do in post the better. The more you change colours around the more pronounced banding and noise is going to become.
@BryanPopeProductions
6 жыл бұрын
+TechnoBabble luckily these are both 10-bit cameras.
@HelpUsSaveLives
Жыл бұрын
A great video about the comparisons. I am especially encouraged (if not downright shocked, to see how much difference the speed boosters make in the field of view, which again, affects crop. My question is do you see any difference in the sharpness of the image with or without the speedbooster? You asked about lighting in the other video. In this one, I would put a light in front of your face to light the area from the top of your eyes to the hat, which is very dark.
@mazurindependentfilmmaking2713
Жыл бұрын
There is difference in sharpness but its not critical. Lumix m4/3 senors are so sharp - you really need to reduce that sharpness in post...
@littletheatrefilms5825
6 жыл бұрын
Great video but would love to see the DOF review with the GH5S plus Speedbooster and a crop without. I would love a GH5S but I love the shallow depth of field on the C100. Oh the struggle!!
@AttilaBakosArt
6 жыл бұрын
This is how you do a comparison. Enjoyed it a lot, thanks!
@Marticulate
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the effort and well explained video. Won't be ditching my GH5 anytime soon though.
@littlecamerafilms2834
6 жыл бұрын
Great tests! So awesome! Thanks, Caleb!
@FreddyMadera
Жыл бұрын
One question, I have GH5 with a speedbooster 0.71x and want to record in 6k Open Gate, shoud I buy Super35mm EF Lenses or Full Frame EF Lenses?? I'm trying to avoid any kind of vignetting. I was looking the Meike cine lens for full frame or super 35mm version. Thanks
@Humcrush
6 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Thanks for the thorough comparison!
@dqstudios
6 жыл бұрын
super-awesome comparison! thanks for sharing this and being AWESOME :)
@mythic_media
4 жыл бұрын
hey thx for all the effort this saved me a lot of trouble
@fyrianfilms
6 жыл бұрын
It would be great to get a GH5s tutorial as it has so many different settings. What is the best for broadcast, cinema, low light, slowmo etc. Thanks!
@langohr9613ify
6 жыл бұрын
nice Video! I would like to see some dynamik range and log workflow compairisms
@faringo12
6 жыл бұрын
And this f*cking global shutter !
@Beakermilk
6 жыл бұрын
Hey Caleb, great video! Maybe I missed this but did you list which lenses and focal lengths you used for each shot? I’m guessing you used the same lens for all of the metabones shots and then the same lens for the micro 4/3 shots?
@StephenEastwood
6 жыл бұрын
IBIS requires more room inside the circle so you never get to the edges, lose that and you go all the way out. Add some digital stabilization and it crops in more.
@siddhu14
4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and informative stuff. Well explained as always ✌🏽 Thanks 🙂
@acecarolino101
6 жыл бұрын
Nice intro soundtrack... what did you use Caleb?
@covenc
6 жыл бұрын
Great comparisons! Thank you so much!!
@kylesimukka
6 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video! Will you be at NAB this year?
@silverrush540
6 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Should make a tut on matching GH5 color with GH5s color!
@johnotatum
6 жыл бұрын
With the .64 metalbones speed booster, the crop factory on the GH5s in cine4K is only 1.135x.
@RichardWait
6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Subtle but noticeable skin tone differences. Any chance we can download the side by side GH5 GH5s colour tests clips. Would like to see if a simple preset could be made in FCPX to bring the GH5 colours inline to the GH5s. They aren’t fair off so would think this is possible.
@sandro6691
4 жыл бұрын
Dude. I reckon it's crop for the Ibis that causes the difference in FOV.
@A1Bokeh
3 жыл бұрын
I think the gh5s is a 1.8 crop
@SatGillOnline
6 жыл бұрын
Extremely helpful! Thanks for this. I'll be getting my GH5s soon and I was wondering how my Tokina Cinema 11-16 Canon Mount will look on this sensor. I'm looking at the Ultra Cine Speed Booster and fingers crossed there's minimal vignetting 🤞 ...especially with the slightly wider FoV.
@Mattithias
4 жыл бұрын
How would you best match the colors on these 2 cameras? Tweak the colors in camera?
@IbrahimSeddikTaleb
6 жыл бұрын
very interesting ! Thanks
@dprovisuals1890
6 жыл бұрын
Crop factor is an issue for all M4/3 camera, just get a wider lens if you really need to shoot a wide view, the GH5 and GH5s are for different class of people. The pro will always prefer GH5s and probably they need it for a B camera because they must have a cinema camera. For others GH5 IBS is very important, if you are on a budget it will safe you no need for a gimbal or steadycam and the features you have compared to price is just incredible. Must content are color corrected or graded. Every camera has its flaws. If u know it u can work around it.
@Neverkilltime
6 жыл бұрын
Sensor difference is because IBIS needs that bit of edge to crop out for movement.
@jwc4154
6 жыл бұрын
I'm about to order the GH5 S.... My concern is quality of video image.... how sharp is this camera? I already have a GH4, a Sony A7S and a Sony A7 lll. None of the mentioned cameras can do 60p in 4K apart from the GH5 S..... so, how sharp is this camera?
@bencorwin
6 жыл бұрын
Best videography channel ever?
@IrreverentSOB
6 жыл бұрын
very nice video, extremely informative ! Thank you !
@alessandro.petracci
6 жыл бұрын
Hey Caleb great video! How wanna know if the autofocus work on both cameras.. Please let me know!
@doisemumfilmes_
5 жыл бұрын
The GH5S at 1080p60 and others settings.... have this angle gain on the sensor? sorry my bad inglish.....
@dirkschannel5817
6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you!
@spythemanbeats178
6 жыл бұрын
Instant like! Gh5s looks very cinematic. Holy s...
@spikedesignworks
5 жыл бұрын
great analysis
@rohitpironia7934
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@mehdia4412
6 жыл бұрын
The best KZitem Channel !!!!! Good job !!!!!
@EmoEmu
6 жыл бұрын
Does the flange distance look the same?
@ArberBaqaj
6 жыл бұрын
Cool and Well Done caleb!
@Walidbadereddine
6 жыл бұрын
you do an amazing work
@jasoncolemanarizonaloanoff1574
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this!
@It228480
6 жыл бұрын
Please do this review: Low light test....GH5s (No speedbooster) vs GH5 w/ Speedbooster) or just tell me....does the GH5 with a speed booster hold its own against the GH5s?
@santhu4movie
6 жыл бұрын
Sony a7s2 or gh5s for filmmaking? Confused pls help...
@mustafaawwad2035
6 жыл бұрын
Are you intending to do a review for the G9?
@clifftotten7609
6 жыл бұрын
The GH5-S uses a larger sensor than the GH5. It's actually physically larger and takes up more space inside the mount circle. The GH5 uses a standard size Sony IMX272 Micro Four Thirds sensor. The GH5-S? We dont know yet what sensor they are using but it has been speculated to be a Sony STARVIS IMX294 sensor variant. (again this wont be 100% clear until ChipWorks/Tech Insights removes the chip and X-rays it and inspects it under their electron microscopes to make their report. "If" it is a Sony STARVIS chip, than Panasonic had no chose but to take whatever size that Sony made that chip to be...even if it forced Panasonic to remove the stabilization because of it.
@ilusaosemlimite
6 жыл бұрын
Yo Caleb, thank you very much for that! One question, the more magentaish thing on the GH5 can be adjusted on the WB can it not? Thanks man!
@WLockIV
6 жыл бұрын
Crop might be because of IBIS?
@spacepilaf
6 жыл бұрын
Does the GH5s improve the autofocus of the GH5, as discussed in your other video?
@iangraham75
5 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know how to view the GH5s's metadata in post? ISO, focal length, ect??
@ksc7957
6 жыл бұрын
like the lighting
@seecraig
6 жыл бұрын
GH5 2x but GH5S is 1.75x. GH5S with Metabones is supposedly 1.1x (nearly full frame) "crop factor." I've read this elsewhere.
@AegeanEpiphany
6 жыл бұрын
Which lenses?
@carlosteixeira5747
6 жыл бұрын
the sensor on the gh5s is larger than the senor on the gh5, hense why there are different crop factors. this is the main reason why they could not add the ibis in the gh5s as there was no room.
@TechnoBabble
6 жыл бұрын
They are the same size sensor, but the GH5 is cropping to use stabilization, on the GH5s there is no crop and it uses a 1:1 pixel readout. That's why it might seem like a larger sensor, but if you take a still photo with them they'll have an identical field of view.
@carlosteixeira5747
6 жыл бұрын
no.. the sensor is slighter larger... but not that much
@ruff1draft
4 жыл бұрын
The GH5s is on my list along with the GH5
@kofuzi
6 жыл бұрын
I’ve been avoiding the Panasonic for precisely this reason
@mgr5550
4 жыл бұрын
Yes all crippled products. One is missing a hand. The other one is missing a leg. You can pick either to suit your taste of cripple.
@Dartheomus
6 жыл бұрын
The "extra frame space" isn't magic. Look at the two camera, and you'll probably find the distance between the lens and sensor is fractionally smaller on the GH5S.
@aebonstudio7193
6 жыл бұрын
Can you get a speed booster to get a full frame to look closer to a medium format camera?
@zacharywhitney6957
6 жыл бұрын
Aebon Inc. Yes you can, Google "medium format speed booster" and it will bring up some results.
@eastmovie7490
6 жыл бұрын
thank you very helpful
@ImLoKo
4 жыл бұрын
What mic is that?
@cobblesticks
6 жыл бұрын
Seeing as the GH5s has slightly more field of view, do you think that there is any depth of field difference between the GH5 and GH5s?
@neirad537
6 жыл бұрын
cobblesticks depth of field is determined by the lens no the sensor. Sensor size only allows you to get closer to the subject or use longer lens at the same distance that way reducing the deep of field for more a bokehlisious footage.
@brownsamurai3070
3 жыл бұрын
The comparison between the two is like watching Everybody Wang Chung Tonight video.
@gruvie
6 жыл бұрын
I don't know if your skin is such red as the GH5s shows. If so you right it's better. Bur to me the skin of GH5 looks so much more natural.
@isart3757
4 жыл бұрын
in 2020 pocket 4k with speed booster larger than super 35
@skujinachev9611
6 жыл бұрын
first ! you sir are AWSOME
@Raoh1st
6 жыл бұрын
I prefer GH5 skin tone on your sample
@AANasseh
6 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what is the Crop Factor for GH5s ? The GH5 is 2X in 4K. Knowing the crop factor is important in order to determine the lens equivalence using the SpeedBooster XL. The regular GH5 ends up with a 1.28X crop factor, which is a very respectable crop factor (Canon 1DXmkii has a 1.25 Crop Factor!) I wonder what it would be for GH5s with SpeedBooster XL?!!!! Really interested in knowing the answer to this one!
@AANasseh
6 жыл бұрын
Holly Crap! I just found out that the crop factor for the GH5s in DCI 4K using SpeedBooster XL is 1.15!!!! That thing is almost full frame!!! That's ridiculous!! I think this is an excellent reason to buy this camera. I have the GH5 and love it. This solves everything.... Panasonic, give us just a little better continuous AF in video and we'll make you king!!!! LOL!
@AANasseh
6 жыл бұрын
Here's the full spec I found out on 43rumors website: I’ve calculated the exact crop factors for each aspect ratio on the GH5s based on camera specs: 3680 pixel long in 4/3 = 2x crop factor in 4/3 still mode 3840 pixel long in 3/2 = 1,91x crop factor in 3/2 still mode 4016 pixel long in 16/9 = 1,832x crop factor in 16/9 still mode 4096 pixel long in 17/9 = 1.796x crop factor in 17/9 (DCI 4K) video mode 3840 pixel long in 3/2 = 1,91x crop factor in 16/9 4K UHD video mode. 35mm means 3680×3680 = 7360 pixel long or 1x crop factor If you add a Speed Booster Ultra to the GH5s you get in DCI 4K a crop factor of 1,275x with 35mm lenses. If you add a Speed Booster XL to the GH5s you get in DCI 4K a crop factor of 1,149x with 35mm lenses. I’ve calculated the exact crop factors for each aspect ratio on the GH5s based on camera specs: 3680 pixel long in 4/3 = 2x crop factor in 4/3 still mode 3840 pixel long in 3/2 = 1,91x crop factor in 3/2 still mode 4016 pixel long in 16/9 = 1,832x crop factor in 16/9 still mode 4096 pixel long in 17/9 = 1.796x crop factor in 17/9 (DCI 4K) video mode 3840 pixel long in 3/2 = 1,91x crop factor in 16/9 4K UHD video mode. 35mm means 3680×3680 = 7360 pixel long or 1x crop factor If you add a Speed Booster Ultra to the GH5s you get in DCI 4K a crop factor of 1,275x with 35mm lenses. If you add a Speed Booster XL to the GH5s you get in DCI 4K a crop factor of 1,149x with 35mm lenses.
@mrjonkane
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was gonna answer then saw you found exactly what I was gonna link you to... I've got the GH5S with the XL and loving it with my old compact Nikkor lenses ;)
@dillpickle1340
6 жыл бұрын
Your opinion on gh5 vs gh5s for wildlife and talk shows?
@dslrvideoshooter
6 жыл бұрын
Would be great! Wildlife stuff is much easier with a smaller sensor too.
@a.i.o.productionz3538
6 жыл бұрын
gh5s uses 10 mp of the sensor instead of 20 mp like the gh5 more usable sensor also the benefits of of less noise in low light
@flipfilms1759
6 жыл бұрын
Is there any downside to using the speed booster?
@randomgeocacher
6 жыл бұрын
FlipFilms you loose fast autofocus, some lenses may show a little bit of artifacts (eg changes in how it responds to direct light sources etc). If you are a normal person and don’t pixel peep for minuscule differences, you will find Metabones Speedboosters handle almost all lenses great.
@randomgeocacher
6 жыл бұрын
Also be aware not all lenses are supported. For example EF-S glass with protruding back element are NOT supported with Speedboosters.
@humblepie9906
6 жыл бұрын
@5:56 GH5S and GH5 comparison. Your face looks wider on the GH5. I know it was a color comparison but I couldn't help to notice the difference in your face, so maybe you have more room and move the GH5s closer to your subject. This happens a lot for photography and how different camera lens make the face wide, skinny and weird.
@felixsu375
6 жыл бұрын
I'm a newbie so I may be confused about this. SInce you know the GH5 color is a little off, can't you do a custom LUT and color correct in post really quickly?
@ricetteok109
4 жыл бұрын
Theorically, yes, you can create your own LUT file to match GH5 with to GH5s.
@prielhackim
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@FrankValchiria
Жыл бұрын
just bought a gh5s with speedbooster. thank you for the great video
@MatiasRispau
6 жыл бұрын
If you can lead me the footage of that color charts of both cameras, I will love to make a lut for matching Gh5 to GH5s. ;)
@EposVox
6 жыл бұрын
Not gunna lie, until I started seeing the sensor quirks like this, I was 100% sold on "I need a GH5 but have no need for GH5s." But now I really want GH5s and I don't even know anymore.
@Supperconductor
6 жыл бұрын
GH5 is a hybrid. Which is better for me. If you’re doing video mostly, the GH5S is probably better. As a hobbyist this is splitting hairs but VERY interesting as a nerdist.
@dslrvideoshooter
6 жыл бұрын
I would ask yourself this. How often do you go handheld? If the answer is under 50% of the time, I'd get the GH5s.
@EposVox
6 жыл бұрын
Under 50% now b/c of the lack of IS in my G7, I usually wind up grabbing my phone for handheld. Hrmmmmmmmmmmmm
@michaeljohntuclaud6992
6 жыл бұрын
I'd get the gh5s with a lens with IS
@AllThingsFilm1
6 жыл бұрын
I have both the GH5 and GH5s. When I bought the GH5, I bought it as a bundle with the Panasonic Leica 12mm-35mm f2.8 lens. The IBS lens on the GH5s makes a big difference.
@datalaforge
6 жыл бұрын
I'm doing my taxes right now but all I want to do is watch this video.
@nicklong7442
6 жыл бұрын
Sammmmeeee! Except I caved and watched it.
@dslrvideoshooter
6 жыл бұрын
Good luck! I hope uncle sam isn't killing you this year!
@raksh9
6 жыл бұрын
I'm editing for a deadline of tomorrow night. And I'm watching this.
@PLWReview
6 жыл бұрын
A very big thank you from Germany! This Video was so informativ :)
@LeeZavitz
6 жыл бұрын
That’s crazy.
@dslrvideoshooter
6 жыл бұрын
Yes it is!
@LeeZavitz
6 жыл бұрын
DSLR Video Shooter I didn’t have my gh5 to test it next to the gh5s so I never really noticed it having a larger field of view. But it only makes sense with the multi aspect sensor. This video proves it.
@It228480
6 жыл бұрын
Please do this review: Low light test....GH5s (No speedbooster) vs GH5 w/ Speedbooster) or just tell me....does the GH5 with a speed booster hold its own against the GH5s?
@dannywinget
6 жыл бұрын
This is insane. I wrote off the GH5s but the results are very interesting. Thanks for this test
@dublbude
Жыл бұрын
I am looking into getting a gh5s. So i am checking this out a bit late. Maybe this has already been commented on..... The gh5s actually has a physically larger sensor. 17.3mm is the horizontal length of a normal 4/3 sensor. 18mm is the horizontal length othe gh5s sensor. Again, maybe this was already addressed, the video is however misinforming.
@SimplicityForGood
9 ай бұрын
and what now in 2024.. shall we let it go? is the G9 ll the right choice? or is the lower price of the GH5S the best still, or shall we wait for the new GH7... how to think for this year ahead? thanks!
@sabusinessguru
6 жыл бұрын
Just "Subscribed" to your channel. Awesome work Caleb... A lot of work you put in and is appreciated... I would LOVE to see this same comparison between the GH5s and the new Sony A7iii. I'm torn between the GH5s and the A7iii. (I would use neither for photos, only video on a Ronin relying heavily on auto focus) Here are a few comparisons that I would love to see between the GH5s and the A7iii that I think would help a lot of us: 1. A side-by-side "autofocus" test between the GH5s (with the latest firmware and the 179 shutter hack) and the Sony A7iii. 2. The GH5s 10-bit 422 (highest bit rate) vs the A7iii 8-bit both 1080 and 4K (for dynamic range, banding, etc) 3. External out analysis from both cameras to an Atomos / Odyssey 7Q+ highest bit rate / color profile possible. Keep up the great work!
@thekidwithacamera1
4 жыл бұрын
Would you say the GH5s is still worth buying at the end of 2019?
@by.purefilms
4 жыл бұрын
man it was def. worth when it was released, so why shouldn't it be worth for 2020? It depends on what you want to work out. It's a beast of a camera mate.
@vlcheish
4 жыл бұрын
@@by.purefilms I guess the question would be if an update came in 2020 which it might not.
@desotaku5202
4 жыл бұрын
The black magic pocket 4k is 600€ less where im from, so i would have an eye on that one too if you are still deciding
@Kirbywinson
6 жыл бұрын
Hey Caleb, thanks for free knowledge
@AndreiLucaa
6 жыл бұрын
soo good! I was waiting for someone to make this test! I would love to see .64 speedbooster in action tho'
@kihoonkim1865
6 жыл бұрын
I think this is an awesome video. I'm just starting videography and your channel is trustworthy. Please keep up the good work!
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