Damn, I think this is the first video of yours I see where the VCR is a goner. I come here to see them come back to life so this is a shame for sure...
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
I am sure I have more that are beyond repair but that is for another day.
@jms019
5 жыл бұрын
Had never even considered how rotary tape heads connected. Thank you
@obviouslytwo4u
5 жыл бұрын
i love it when something very rare happens its means the universe still works
@wdavem
5 жыл бұрын
This is a proper autopsy.
@mrnmrn1
5 жыл бұрын
There is a Czech chap who is obsessed enough to rewind not the rotary transformers, but to replace the head cores on the head disk, and than rewind them by hand with a tweezer, under a microscope! I've seen his videos about 5 years ago. He has studio stuff (2" quad VTRs and so on), which he had no other chance to get them working, he had to DIY rebuild the head disks. He made all sorts of jigs for this. I think he even has a complete, working broadcasting van full of '80s tech (partially Czech, like TESLA mixing consoles and cameras). Unfortunatelly, it seems his channel is gone, I can't find it anymore. All of his videos were Czech without captioning, but IIRC, most of his video titles were both in Czech and English. I'm really struggling to remember the channel name, it was his name, I think. I'm pretty sure I was subsribed to his channel, but now I'm not, and I couldn't find his channel with two hours of searching yesterday. I hate myself for not downloading all of his videos, they were amazing, even with my zero Czech knowledge. Please help if anyone knows his name. I'll ask this from Dany (DiodeGoneWild), and Dalibor Farny, they are both Czech youtubers, maybe they know him, even in person.
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
I remember watching a guy build vacuum tubes by hand. Pretty cool. I wouldn't attempt this. I am not that dedicated to restoring old tech, especially something as common as an old vhs deck.
@mrnmrn1
5 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids The vacuum tube DIYer is Glasslinger, yes, he makes cool videos. Dalibor Farny currently semi-mass produces Nixie tubes. kzitem.info/news/bejne/2K6Cmnmim6GaqHY I'm not saying you should rewind the transformer, but you might investigate if a younger Panasonic parts machine you have, has a somewhat compatible one, which might be transplanted.
5 жыл бұрын
Nice one !!! That was a solid deck in its day - Heavy Units !
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
The PV1730 was the heavy beast 6 motors total. supply, take up, capstsn, drum, loading, and front loader. I have one of those too, and yes it is also broken.
@rick601a
4 жыл бұрын
I had a JVC HR-D180U lower drum fail due to glue eating up the copper. 1986 machine. But I was able to rewrap the transformer. And it worked. Got to keep the direction and phase correct. Takes some times but it worked. Mine was just 4 windings mono 4 head machine.
@mrmagnetoscope
5 жыл бұрын
I have a similar VCR, a Philips VR6620, it's a rebadged Panasonic and it has the older version of this mechanism, it's from 1985. Works perfectly.
@crashbandicoot4everr
5 жыл бұрын
Good old D1 mechanism. I have a National (Panasonic) NV-380 with that same mechanism. One of the best that Panasonic made...
@abc-ni9uw
5 жыл бұрын
Please don't anybody ask me why. BUT I find the way he moves that sharp ended tool through the wire trench/track. The movement and noise it makes makes me all fuzzy inside. None the less great video :)
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
I would say you have issues.
@fadhlematrook1248
5 жыл бұрын
he have
@rawr51919
5 жыл бұрын
Might be an ASMR trigger of his. Interesting 🤔
@georgethomas9436
5 жыл бұрын
Hello Mr. Dave. I learned alot from this short but very informative video. Actually seeing how the video and hifi heads are physically wired and attached. Talk about "HIFI" teck talk. This just came together as a training of how rhings work video.
@wdavem
5 жыл бұрын
Really interesting video and rotary transformer failure. Yeah that copper doesn't look right. Rewinding a rotary transformer would be quite a project... to get a square profile of winding pre formed sounds kinda complicated. I had a VCR that was sorta kinda the same design, sounded the same. Can't help but wonder if liquid got in there somehow. Once someone had used unknown cleaning fluid and dissolved junk washed down into the rotary transformer leaving behind junk that also ceased the bearings (though that didn't destroy the coils and I got it working). But glue sure does as you say, maybe other decks with the same transformer will fail.
@torugonza
5 жыл бұрын
Hi 12 volts ... years ago I have saved a Panasonic VCR with the same problem. one of the heads does not close the circuit ... has no arrangement?
@mrnmrn1
5 жыл бұрын
I have an old Panasonic S-VHS of similar age, it might have the same problem, I should dig it up and test it. But it has other problems as well, it's a 120V NTSC model, which was plugged into 230V... I'd repair it only to have a true NTSC VCR. Which is rare enough here in central Europe to try to rewind the rotating transformer, if it has the same problem.
@jameskrivitsky9715
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave, interesting to see the "guts" of the drum dissected beyond normal viewing repair. Rewiring would be out of normal non-factory ability, like rewinding the voice coil on a tweeter..... not for the faint of heart....even with a microscope. Good video showing the extent and stopping point of when to scrap a unit and use for parts...if you have the room to store or "hoard ". J K
@frizzyred1292
4 жыл бұрын
are they done by robots in factories? (rewiring)
@Pcfan64
4 жыл бұрын
It is a very very detailed dissection. Thanks a lot for sharing this.
@Dillisive
5 жыл бұрын
Love your repair videos Dave
5 жыл бұрын
He's top notch !
@chilledoutpaul
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, yes i will also second your dissension not to rewind the head transformer. It would be a nightmare. love the videos Dave. Paul, UK
@aarontrupiano9328
5 жыл бұрын
vcr time again yeah
@jeremytravis360
5 жыл бұрын
I admire your patience. Many of my engineers would have asked me to order a head block. I appreciate if you phoned Panasonic today they would laugh at us or you would get a young person saying or asking what is VHS.
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
No if you phoned and asked for parts they would say we don't sell parts.
@jeremytravis360
5 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids They used to supply parts to the trade if you were a main dealer in Panasonic or Technics which I was.
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
@@jeremytravis360 So was I. That was then. Parts departments closed up years ago.
@jeremytravis360
5 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids Sorry I wasn't doubting you. I came out of the AV trade in 1995 and in the UK you could get most parts up till then when I bought may last Panasonic SVHS machine. Thanks for your great videos.
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
@@jeremytravis360 Parts were still available from the manufactures in 2003 when I left too. Panasonic if I remember closed up literally over night here in Vancouver. The employees went home on a friday afternoon and when they showed up for work Monday morning there was a yellow fence completely surrounding the warehouse. I heard this from one of my former co-workers that had been working at the local GM dealership where I service my car. He said that on the weekend a truck showed up with portable fencing, and put it around the entire property. Workers showed up Monday morning to discover they no longer had a job. Over the coming days freight trucks showed up to unload all the inventory and transport it all to Toronto.
@mendelpearl8066
5 жыл бұрын
It never seize to amaze me to see you fix all these devices with nothing but a crowbar and a hammer. 😎
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
That is the point of the channel. When I worked in the service business this is all I had. Basic hand tools because the shop owner was too cheap to buy fancy test equipment. Why, because he would never see a return on investment. I think the same way. Why would I spend hundreds on an air station when I would never make back my money. I do this as cheap as possible as other than yt revenue I really don't make money doing this. Even the paid repairs I do at a loss. All the money I make is from ad revenue.
@mendelpearl8066
5 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids 😊 What attracts me most your vids is when you share some of your inside info as a sony engineer. Please show us where the actual break in the wire was, this is like a bad cliffhanger 😅 Greets from Amsterdam
5 жыл бұрын
You went all the way with this one ! Thanks for taking apart the rotary drum , I have never seen inside one. The bearing looks like any common skateboard wheel bearing. I can't read the markings though too small where it was made. As you were saying about the 'glue' attacking.. I assume a bad manufacturing batch?
5 жыл бұрын
@TheAstro30 :)
@matthewbestdfghy
5 жыл бұрын
When you sed very old I was thinking a top load with rotary tuners
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
I have a few of those too.
@tombyron3581
2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@robtitheridge9708
5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting i have had lower drum fail (also on a panasonic) but never took it apart to find the reason. We had plenty of parts m/c's so was not a problem.
@MercilessDeth89
7 ай бұрын
I have one of these that wouldn't power on. I recapped the power supply and it worked! I hadn't put it all the way back together, since I was still testing it, and after a few days the display stopped turning on. Any ideas where to start? I've tried replacing the two caps nearest the display just as a hail mary but that didn't do the trick
@skyoreece9805
3 жыл бұрын
Lower drum field could be in 10s of k, so diode check may not show. I still suspect heads as there a partial picture coming through. I've never had a lowe drum fail except a bearing
@12voltvids
3 жыл бұрын
Rotary transformer failed. There is a video showing one torn down.
@crashbandicoot4everr
5 жыл бұрын
What if you steal the lower drum from the other PV-4760 that had bad heads? The one that you fixed its power supply in an old video.
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
That one was turfed a long time ago
@stereomann83
5 жыл бұрын
i have the whole mechanism with the head on it. it was it's been in a box for years. don't know if you can use it or not. 6E08 GCMK-47X VJBS00476 are the numbers on the head
@frizzyred1292
4 жыл бұрын
Is it inevitable that all the drum heads will fail in VCR's over time due to the copper wire being corroded by glue?
@mrpedrodrodriguezsr7628
5 жыл бұрын
How about applying a voltage with limited current to see if it arcs and solders again like we used to do on old transformers ?
@annierenard5954
5 жыл бұрын
this was very educational thank you
@austinrussell550
4 жыл бұрын
I have a panasonic ag 2560 proline, parts of its power supply are not available, tell me what should I do
@12voltvids
4 жыл бұрын
You have 2 options. Find an old machine to pick parts or bin it.
@austinrussell550
4 жыл бұрын
I purchase this vhs from new york
@rogeriol
5 жыл бұрын
Strange... if the coils for the 4 video heads were open, how did you get a kind of a picture in pause and search? Seems like only one head was compromised.
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
Must have been a little residual leakage from one of the transformers. You saw the open reading on the meter didn't you?
@graboid116
4 жыл бұрын
I need your expertise. I have a Panasonic vcr that has a kinds hissing sound at the power supply when you turn it on. Does it mean it's fubared
@12voltvids
4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like bad caps in the power supply. There are also many cases of a shorted crowbar zener when the power supply voltage went high.
@zx8401ztv
5 жыл бұрын
Wow it's a first for me too, and i've replaced plenty of video heads over the years. Thats just mad, and a shame :-( I've seen lots of old piano key machines and there has never been a transformer failure, as old as the hills too.
@zx8401ztv
5 жыл бұрын
lol age 53, a brain that still thinks it's 30 unless i'm ill then i feel 130 lol.
@Swenser
5 жыл бұрын
great learning. cheers. I'm high now on education.
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
Working on a hi8 home deck now. Film at 11 as the saying goes.
@reel_images
5 жыл бұрын
Wondering where to get toothed belts for a VHS-C camcorder? It's a GR-SXM260, it's slipping the tape on the rewind and squealing. I've cleaned the heads and the machine looks great. Not a lot of KM on it. I can't find the service manual for it anywhere. Any thought?
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
I have never seen a toothed belt fail other than breaking and that is very rare. Have no idea where to obtain parts three days.
@reel_images
5 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids the belt isn't broken but was wondering why it gives up on the rewind? The tapes aren't to tight. The tapes have been recorded on once and played maybe 10 times. But are 20 years old. Just sounds squealing and when watching when the covers off can see the tape stops moving when it's trying to rewind then just thinks the tapes at the beginning of the reel. Are these newer VHS-C cameras (2003) designed with toothed belts to not be replace?
@piotrr5170
5 жыл бұрын
Apparently, you rarely repaired this model - this and similar ones having such a drum motor used had such damage.
@mrnmrn1
5 жыл бұрын
Or he repaired them when they were 5-15 years old, not 32...
@electronash
5 жыл бұрын
@12voltvids Do you possibly know which VCR had a Picture-In-Picture function? I owned one in the 90s, which I believe was a Ferguson, and it had a shielded can that sat behind the front display. The can had a couple of PCBs with some video processing and framebuffer DRAM in. A lot of the parts in there were from either Mitsumi or Mitsubishi (I forget which). The VCR was front-loading, and I'm pretty sure the cassette door was on the left-hand side. It was a relatively "thin" VCR, with a simple "black slab" design. It might have had a flap covering some controls on the lower-front edge, too. Probably more of a late-80s or early 90s design, though. I'd love to get hold of one of those VCRs again, to play with the PIP module. It was a lot of fun to work on. I've looked everywhere on Google images for anything similar, but just can't find it. I think it had some text on the front panel that said "PIP" or "Digital Freeze Frame" perhaps. Just wondered if you might know, as you've likely repaired a few of them.
@electronash
5 жыл бұрын
Well, as is typical in these cases, after writing all of that, it jogged my memory about the "Digital Freeze Frame" thing, so I Googled for that. And I found it. lol... www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ferguson-Videostar-FV26D-VHS-Video-Cassette-Recorder/113866986116?hash=item1a83005284:g:k18AAOSwLCJdZEWY I'm definitely gonna buy it.
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
There were a few. RCA vpt695 svhs did it (I have one that is broken) made by Hitachi. Sony SLV 757 and slvr5 also had pip function. You could watch a tape with live tv in pip and vice versa freeze pix, strobe, solarize ect. I have an slvr5 too.
@electronash
5 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids I put a bid on that eBay one. It holds some specific memories for me, at a time when Dad was teaching me how to repair VCRs and TVs. Could be interesting to see how it captures the video, too, as it probably converts the composite signal to YUV first. That's if I win the auction, but I can't see too many other people wanting an old VCR these days. lol
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
@@electronash Yes many did convert to YUV, and then sample down. I actually have a plasma TV that has PIP. 2 analog tuners, and it can dp PIP between the 2 tuners, or between 1 and an external source, and can zoom the PIP picture to any size. You don't see that anymore either. That is my bench plasma that can do that.
@bobjerome5390
5 жыл бұрын
hi have had video recorders this old there was some that play hi-fi only sp speed and record LP hi-fi you did work on one once if i get a unit like this i can fix i make a video about the unit very likely get a part from a viewer on my old channel i did this still looking for a Yamaha M20P tapes very hard to get
@michaelwolak3098
5 жыл бұрын
Hi 12volt in my days of servicing vhs’s jvc and its rebranded models they had the problems of the drum motor magnets falling of and never to be found so it was a matter of replacing the drum motor assembled Mike
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
That's one of the reasons we called JVC junk very cheap and junky video company.
@fenirstardust8100
5 жыл бұрын
I have this exact VHS player!! but it's a GE 9-7785 re-brand and it works! should I take it apart and pot that rotary transformer with super glue or something to keep air and water from causing corrosion if the glue breaks down the enamel???????? how mush $$ to ship your broken one for spare parts and what is unattainium in it?
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
It would probably cost 70.00 to ship the broken one to the us. That is what most VCRs cost to ship. If you want it act fast as I was just about to dump it.
@fenirstardust8100
5 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids eek! gotta wait till the 3rd for me pay check...PM me /if/ you wanna do it. easy come easy go.
@roasthunter
4 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if anyone can help me with my Philips VR608 VCR (PAL), it dates from about 2000. It hasn't had much use over the last few years but I watched a few tapes ok a few weeks back but it's developed a fault. The picture has alot of snow and now says TRAC when it tries to auto track. This does generally seem to improve the picture but there is alot of noise. I have found an LP recorded tape had a better picture than SP tapes, and also if I use the fast forward in play mode the picture cleans up considerably. I'm wondering if this is a tape tension issue but all that looks ok , I'm struggling to diagnose and there doesn't seem to be a service manual available it would be shame to throw it out. I've cleaned all the rollers and cleaned the 3 video heads, audio and erase heads. The VCR doesn't have many hours on it. Can anyone help me diagnose the issue and fix it?
@roasthunter
4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm and just used it now and it's absolutely perfect, perhaps a dodgy cap or bad solder joint somewhere which is being affected by the temperature in the house.
@Oufg103f
5 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@moshezaharia4666
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, My Blaupunkt RTV211 (Panasonic NV-333/NV300) suffered the same exact destiny.
5 жыл бұрын
wow that one looks even older, I didn't know Blaupunkt rebranded Panasonics.. what country are you in?
@mrmagnetoscope
5 жыл бұрын
NORMALIZATION OF IGNORANCE Only in Europe they did.
@moshezaharia4666
5 жыл бұрын
NORMALIZATION OF IGNORANCE Hi, I live in Israel, and it looks like Matsushita made all the VCR’s for Blaupunkt. I have also a Blaupunkt RTV635, and it is a Panasonic NV- J35.
@moshezaharia4666
5 жыл бұрын
Mr Magnétoscope Not exactly: Blaupunkt was sold here in Israel, their TV’s were genuine Blaupunkt and their VCR’s were rebranded Matsushita (Panasonic).
@josericardogs1435
5 жыл бұрын
I have the PV-4700 model, not works, but it turns on!
@KnuckleFreak
4 жыл бұрын
I have 2 of these exact units.
@fadhlematrook1248
5 жыл бұрын
i have jvc vcr had this problem to
@markmarkofkane8167
5 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to tell if the heads are worn physically? Not just electrically?
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
A resonance meter will show if the gap is worn. We had one at the shop but I don't have one. It connected to the head and would show the center frequency of resonance. As the head wore the gap would change and that would change the resonant frequency. Also worn heads will show a poor picture on self recorded tapes but will play other tales fine and other machines will play the tapes recorded by a worn head fairly well as well.
@lakhvirdhaliwal2126
5 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids Dave sir I have Panasonic g 500 model video head motor produce noise while in playing mode.but is problem ? How can I fix it?
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
@@lakhvirdhaliwal2126 Bearing wearing out. Eventually it will seize up.
@lakhvirdhaliwal2126
5 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids thanks sir
@stereomann83
5 жыл бұрын
I had the same vcr i bought at goodwill it lasted a few years but the power supply died on it. i thought i saved some of the parts from it. but i don't know what i did with them
@abc-ni9uw
5 жыл бұрын
No point messaging then was there ?
@stereomann83
5 жыл бұрын
@@abc-ni9uw I found the mechanism with the head on it i just had to find it. don't know if 12voltvids can use it or if it would be worth it with shipping but i thought i would let him know
@DharmendraKumar-kw1zt
5 жыл бұрын
I have one j7 vcr love it I'm poor man
@fadhlematrook1248
5 жыл бұрын
how did thy made it?..how the hi-fi and video work in heads by this coil ?.. amazing idea. its like UFO (magnetic)
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
It's called a rotary transformer. The coils are placed directly over each other and transfer (induce) magnetic energy between each loop the base material is powdered iron particles fomed into what would be the iron core of a conventional transformer. The signals that transfer over are rf (radio frequency) FM modulated signals.
@spikester
5 жыл бұрын
Hi-fi audio uses a type of FM signalling, thus the audio takes advantage of the much higher bandwidth of the videotape using some exotic depth modulation, where the hifi signal penetrates deeper into the tape, which explains the need of larger coils for the hifi & hifi heads themselves. Pretty sure they also share a different azimuth angle.
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
@@spikester It isn't that they need more power. The HiFi audio signal was recorded at a different angle. The video was recorded at +6 and -6 degrees so there was 12' difference between the a and b tracks. The audio used -30 and + 30' offset so there would be 36' phase difference between the video and audio signal on the same track and 60' difference between the audio tracks to reduce crosstalk. The audio signals laid down. Ahead of the video signal. The video signal would partially erase the audio but enough remained, due to the phase angle being so different that it could be recovered. Both the HiFi audio and lumanance for the video used FM recording. The audio was a much narrower deviation compared to the video and this helped too plus the tracks were wider and this is why the 60' offset between the heads so that the next head wouldn't totally wiped out the previous ones signal. It was a cleaver system.
@fadhlematrook1248
5 жыл бұрын
ok...so how it work with digital8 dv digi beta
@spikester
5 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids Yep, different azimuth offsets, however if you look at the heads they have significantly more coil and thus should be able to penetrate deeper into the tape, at least during recording. I was under the impression the audio signal would not be recorded over due to the depth it still exists in the tape, along with the different angle, due to the shallower recording of the video signal. Clever indeed, how they made this work as good as it did still fascinates me too.
@mrmagnetoscope
5 жыл бұрын
Maybe someone put the wrong type of glue when repairing it?
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
That is a non serviceable part. Nobody has been in there since it was manufactured, that was until I opened it up to find the fault. That glue went on in Japan at the factory.
@DharmendraKumar-kw1zt
5 жыл бұрын
I have one vcr
@gaelfrenchy
5 жыл бұрын
no way he s gonna leave it like that....
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
Yes I did. Not economical to repair. Even if the part was available, it wouldn't be free and I am not about to buy a part for an old VCR I have no use for. I have about 20 more where it came from.
@Bluethunderboom
5 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry of how did the lower head drum had failed because of the glue that gone dry for all three decades. =(
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
It actually failed long ago. I have had that machine for probably 28 of those years as I used to use it as a duplicator when I was doing commercial videos and making hundreds of copies. worked up to 98 and developed what I thought initially was a worn head as it had a problem in the SP mode. I retired that deck, and the rest of my duplicators because by that time I had formed a partnership with another production company and I was letting him handle my VHS duplication and I did all the DVD duplication. I t was probably the transformer then too, and since then the glue has damaged the rest of the wingdings I bet if I checked some of my other decks I would find them as bad now just from sitting..
@Bluethunderboom
5 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids But don't be surprise there's a certain VCR that had been worn whenever it's used for recording or playback while recording the video tapes, watching the videos, or archive to the computer with MPEG-4 video. Things happen, it's an ordinary wear-and-tear and it can always replace with the another used VCR's that has a good condition. Especially for me, when I was doing to archive the video, I use the twin JVC HR-A592U as a video archive to my computer, and along with the Samsung VCR/DVD player to archive the video whenever the tape is damaged slightly and won't cause to e-skip the video (including the video of Issac Asimov Voyage to the Outer Planets and Beyond), however my video capture software despised the monochrome video because, they don't allow me to archive the video! The only way I do is to capture the monochrome video, is I use the Magnavox VCR/DVD+R recorder to record the monochrome video and finally, archive the video directly to my computer by capture the tape! Anytime any VCR had failed for to produce or recording the video because of the head drum where it's worn out, I can recycle them, or try replace the another used head drum for the VCR and get it going again (but there's no guarantee to see that will work) and I'll do my best to get it working again.
5 жыл бұрын
He said in the video that its' probably the type of glue they used, it started to break down or oxidize and then probably leech into the small copper wire bundles , corroding (disconnecting) them.
@spikester
5 жыл бұрын
@ The green stuff, copper oxidation, was evident, the glue destroyed the enamel coating on the wire and then started attacking the copper. Curious how many hundreds of tons of electronics are going to fail due to similar misuse of chemicals.
@jjohnson71958
5 жыл бұрын
Replace the rotory motor wire with gold wire
@fadhlematrook1248
5 жыл бұрын
NO NO..SILVER WIRE OR IRON..ITS CRAP
@jjohnson71958
5 жыл бұрын
Could be a bad video chip
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the video? I guess not or you would have seen that the fault was open winding on the rotary transformer in the lower durm assy.
@12voltvids
5 жыл бұрын
@TheAstro30 It never ceases to amaze me the number of people that make comments before watching. Some will make a dumb ass comment, and then realize that they shoved their foot in their mouth and delete it, but too late because I have already seen t he original post before they removed it.
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